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@@itsfresh0420 Maybe he was just fucking with the Act Man a bit there lol. I remember way back in an older video that Renn did mention editing videos for the Act Man at that time so perhaps these guys go back a ways.
I love how the game combines both Bloodborne's rally system and Sekiro's parry system, but what's more impressive is how the game finds ways to link them together like the P Organ upgrade that lets you gain lost health back through parrying.
It was amazing but the problem is it came out in the same year as baldurs gate 3 which was bound to absolutely OBLITERATE every single game in that same year. Had it come out in 2022 it would have easily swept every game that year.
I love love love that when I broke the Black rabbit big brother's weapon in the first fight it was still broken in the second one but seemed to be able to be broken again. I killed him too fast to find out for real but it was glowing again on each perfect parry.
LoP was amazing but it’s always a bit of a tricky topic comparing contemporary games to older titles especially when those old games provide the entire foundation for the new. I mean, the games should be getting better right? But for whatever things P does better (and some things it definitely does) it will never capture that same feeling I had on my first trips through Bolataria and Lordran simply because it is ultimately derivative. Amazing but derivative.
Hard agree, as much as I liked Lies of P... It won't stay with me like souls games did. I don't know why I feel it's forgettable. Maybe lack of environment variations? Even though there were more than just city, I can't really explain it.
For me, it has surpassed Dark Souls in many ways, but has also not quite lived up to it in many ways. Its a bit too linear to catch the wonderment of DS1 Lordran, which to this day, is one of my favorite video game worlds every made and feels more like a real world than most modern open world games. It also uses the "enemy hiding behind the corner" trick WAAAAY too much. And its last area drags on a bit too much for my tastes. BUT!!! Its combat and mini-boss/boss design are second to NONE imo. Story is straight forward. It also, SHOCK, runs at arbitrary framerates (I ran at 144hz, not even supposedly modern Elden Ring ran at more than 60hz without a multiplayer breaking mod) and is VERY WELL optimized (makes combat fluidity even better!). And it feels like the first TRUE high level, modern souls-like experience! Fromsoft could learn a thing or two. And this is their first outing?! Outstanding! Can't wait for the DLC and sequel!
@@BUKUDII personally enjoyed the moments where Gemini was used for exposition or to add some flavor or context to certain areas/scenes. That being said, unless P is the protagonist of the sequel, there really wouldn’t be any reason for the cricket to be there. Although it’s likely that something similar will be used to fill his role in follow up games.
The people who made this game they used to make Beat games like DjMax and Cytus, the fact this is their first game of such calibre is crazy, unbelievable how they managed to make a game this good at first try when you huge companies like with their endless excuses...
I actually liked the "NPC" fights in this game. It didn't just feel like they slapped on some loot and a healthbar to an AI-controlled player character. They had actual combos to watch out for (I like Robber Weasel).
@@joshuamartinez6722 What I meant is that these Stalker fights felt like actual PVE fights unlike the lazy offline player NPC bosses from Shadow of the Erdtree
I honestly believe that if this game was made by Fromsoft, it would've been nominated for GOTY. Still probably wouldn't have won, but definitely nominated.
this didn't spark the same awe and wonder and true sense of exploration that fromsoft games do for me. i think that is the secret to why fromsoft has become so incredibly beloved, rather than the actual combat or difficulty or whatever. it'll be cool to see what they do next though, glad this was successful.
I have been enjoying Lies of P but it's not as good as Dark Souls 1. It's exploration was a bit more lacking. Character builds are more limited. It's combat is a bit lacking in certain areas and it suffers from artificial difficulty. The game clearly pushes towards aggressive play styles but then certain attacks require you to just run away which ruins the flow of combat. Bosses can be a bit spongey. Random difficulty spikes. Repetitive encounters that all play out similarly and they will all be 1 after the other. But the things I liked was the grinding wheel is cool. And it has icons next to areas on the fast travel list showing you if you need to talk to someone or something. The story is easier to follow then Dark Souls. The training area next to the weapon shop. The parrying with chip damage is cool. The lock on icon changes for back stabbing. I can look past it's flaws because it's this companies first big game. Hopefully in their next title they will be able to fine tune everything. It's not like From Softwares 1st souls games didn't have problems. Demon Souls has a spell that you can move at full speed while casting allowing every encounter to be cheesed. Dark souls 1 Dark bead and mannis catalyst...
@@teeman7137 DnD is a household name in the gaming scene and the Baldur's Gate series is one of the most storied and revered series of RPGs. No, Baldur's Gate 3 is not a tiny niche game, sure the studio is not the most well known but the name itself got them a fuck ton of organic marketing.
I started my Souls journey back in 2009 when the only option to buy the game was to import the Asian version. I used my friend's dad's credit card to buy my very first imported item ever... Demon's Souls. Since then Dark Souls came out, was my favorite game of all time. Dark Souls 2 came out, was a disappointing yet decent game, I ran PvP arenas in that one, probably the best PvP experience I had in any of the Souls games. Bloodborne came out, by far was my favorite game of all time. Still is. Dark Souls 3, the most polished Souls game, a very solid experience that's probably even better than DS1, yet it felt more of the same and too reminiscent of DS1. This feeling was amplified especially after Bloodborne which was a wholly unique experience. Sekiro, not the biggest fan but still a really good game, final boss Ashina was my favorite boss fight of all time from any game. Elden Ring came out, 2nd place to only Bloodborne for me as the best games of all time. Elden Ring sometimes even feels like it should be my all time favorite, but Bloodborne edges it out only due to the combat style, speed, eldritch theme and player movement. Then many many Soulslikes over the years, during those releases, in between. If I only consider true 3D soulslikes, none came close to From Soft for me. Then came Lies of P. For the first time, in 15 years of Souls, the impossible happened. A game that ranks up there with the very best. I had some high expectations after the demo, but the final product blew me away. It's not perfect, I would have liked more exploration and secrets, but for this dev's first foray into Souls, this is a perfect start. I still believe Bloodborne and Elden Ring are the better games, and Dark Souls 1 as a whole was a more memorable experience, but I enjoyed Lies of P more than Dark Souls 2, 3 and Demon's Souls... My current rankings: Bloodborne Elden Ring Dark Souls 1 Lies of P Dark Souls 3 Sekiro Demon's Souls Dark Souls 2 P.S. as an avid DJMax fan for the past 17 years, hearing somber versions of those familiar tunes in Lies of P was another thing that added to the experience.
@@BBQcheese Thank you for sharing your take as well. I certainly enjoy seeing others appreciate LoP for the beautiful game it is. Who knows, maybe in time From Soft will be having a considerable amount of healthy competition which can only elevate the subgenre they created even further. Us fans are eating good that's for sure 😁
As the first video I've ever seen of yours, I love how up until the end I didn't know if you actually thought it was better or not because of how well you kept up the bit. Everything else was also fantastic. Great stuff!
Perfect Guard is 10x more consistent and clear to learn then dodging. Finding a point inside a 1d shape is easier then 5d shape. It's the only game where I don't run past enemies, at all. I love fighting them. But I skip 90% of enemies in all souls game once I know the path. Even in Sekiro.
Uhh… 5D? 😅 We can only observe and experience 3 dimensions, 4 if you’re counting time. Since it’s a video game, it is possible to have 4D representation and interactions within them other than time, such as removing items from a lockbox without opening the box (which is something most people wouldn’t immediately perceive as 4th dimensional) With all that being said, you could make an argument that s are 4th dimensional movement since you’re passing through physical matter in a 3 dimensional world without being affected by it. Regardless of whether or not you consider the s to take place in a 4th dimension, the object in which you are dodge rolling or parrying take place in the same 3 dimensions. Hitboxes in souls games are represented with spheres, which are 3 dimensional. As a matter of fact, if the perfect guard collision point in an attack animation literally existed in only 1D it would actually be significantly harder to hit consistently.
10:15 While I do agree with this to some extent, I personally find DS engaging because the gear-locking system pushes me out of playing just the knight class, which is basically the best class in the games. Also, I've found that DS mainly encourages me to experiment by challenging me to switch things up, not because I NEED to in order to beat a boss or something, but because I WANT to simply to prove to myself that I CAN. Its very much an internal/intrinsic motivation, rather than external/extrinsic. Definitely not for everyone. For example, after clearing Smouldering Lake (IIRC) with my knight in DS3, I completely stopped all progress to restart with every other class with the primary goal of seeing how far I could get with each class following the "proper" playstyle of each class. With the exception of the Deprived, which I played with zero armor, I usually made it to The Road of Sacrifice before I got frustrated, or in most cases, a bit bored (can't say DS3 is a game in which I enjoy playing the same six exact levels ten times in a row, tbh entirely my fault lmao), and promptly switched to a new character/class. It was overall, super fun, and it really culminated in my Deprived, when I killed Ludex Gundyr first try (I don't no-life games, so while I didn't expect Ludex to be hard, I also didn't anticipate one-timing him). Cleric was probably my least favorite, although I will say that magic in general, while powerful, feels way too janky and lacking fluidity compared to melee combat. Frankly, there's something fun about being able to beat the game with the same gear I spawned with at the start (as a knight, the other classes I wielded more varied armories). The only thing I did find annoying (and something I hate in other games too), is when I would come across a new weapon that was just straight-up worse due to my sword being +6ed. making materials less grindy would fix that, because otherwise I don't feel comfortable just tossing materials to Andre to +6 a weapon I don't even know is good/bad yet.
@@KapitanPazur1 at what point did I claim that class selection "matters"? I pick the class that provides the starting gear/stats/spells for the builds I plan to utilize. It makes it faster to get my builds running rather than spending 4 hours farming souls on high wall's dragon. I assume you're referring to me saying knight is the "best" class, as to which I will simply say, it is the easiest and simplest class. "Best" can mean many different things, but as far as ease and simplicity go, knight is by far the "best" I recommend paying more attention to that bald spot, gramps.
@@Ghorda9 I assume you're referencing me getting frustrated around the Road of Sacrifice, in which case yes it was the Crystal Sage that was the issue. Its not so much that he's difficult in general (as you mentioned, throwing knives makes it quite easy), but rather that playing a class "as intended" or "the proper way" (aka: role-playing) puts (self-inflicted) restrictions like not using throwing knives/weapons, which makes the fight way tougher. That being said, I also usually had found my groove by that point and wanted to mix it up again for fun, so I would switch. The difficulty of Crystal Sage with no throwing knives just hastened that a bit.
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Kind of strange to compare this to Dark Souls, yknow. This game pulls much more from Bloodborne, and some of the ways you think Lies of P improved upon Dark Souls are actually taken 1:1 from Bloodborne. I wonder if it would have been a better idea to review the game independently, without the comparison, given that you seemingly haven't played Fromsoft's more recent titles. Anyway, as excellent as I'm sure this game is, in all the footage and talk about it it seems to be missing the certain something that draws me to Fromsoft's worlds. It's really the main reason I care about their soulslikes, the worlds. I suppose it's down to a personal preference for the sort of obscure, melancholic, dying and hopeless places.
The opera house was my favorite area in the entire game. It's not very big, but I just loved the environments, enemies, music and overall mood of the entire thing. Also had my favorite boss fight in the game.
lies of p is one of my favorite games of 2023, and is a must play for souls fans. The entire time i was playing this game i was wondering if i got pranked at the title screen by fromsoft going as an alter studio. Cant wait for a sequel or dlc
Your comment is admission that the game is a blatant ripoff whether you like it or not. It has no identity of its own and neowiz will never compare to fs
@@forwardmoving8252I’ve noticed all your comments are you just thinking you’re superior. You’re probably just a fat internet dwelling teenager who gets zero attention and has created this complex to feel better.
DS3 scream near jailers always gets me. I like the lack of music sometimes. Just hearing the clank of your armored footsteps with ambient screams or crying makes it so much scarier sometimes. You nailed it on enemy placement/traps. Another thing that adds that sense of danger around every corner
Hellpoint, which is admittedly not a game I particularly enjoyed to play, actually had a similar healing consumable refill for damage dealt mechanic and I really enjoyed how much it felt like I was pushed more towards staying in the fight bit by bit, rather than using a massive bundle of consumables across a marathon and either still having too much at the end or none at all.
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One thing I would have to disagree with is when you said the enemy attack telegraph is always easily readable across the whole game, its not. For a lot of the enemies and bosses the attack telegraph is actually really good but for bosses like Simon Manus hes too big, and he takes up a lot of the screen so you can't see him begin his attack animation because its slightly off screen, and for bosses like Luxasia the Complete and The Nameless Puppet, they have zero telegraphs for some of their attacks like the one where the puppet dashes forward instantly or the first attack of Luxasia. Most of the time you just have to die to it enough to have the muscle memory to be able to parry it which isn't very intuitive. Overall great video that I mostly agree with though.
@@jdrok5026 your right, but there is music in every boss fight. I think they sometimes use more atmospheric music that plays in the background, so you don’t always take as much notice
@@Ghorda9 true I guess there’s not loads of atmospheric music used in ds3. I’ve never played ds1 or ds2 so can’t compare. It’s the boss music that stands out (most of the time), oh and even the main menu music
I also feel like some of the boss mechanics were kind of far fetched. They went a bit overboard with the movesets on bosses like Simon manus who literally cover the entire arena distance with a single melee move. Also the dash for green puppet monster in phase 2, which has a stupid hitbox and hits you into the corner
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 it's not extremely linear though. You have multiple ways to go. But those usually lead to the same or an item. Not as open as bloodborne where you can choose which area you do next.
How did you finally master the perfect guard? I can do it almost all of the time with some attacks from some enemies, but the delayed ones and many of the more inhuman ones are devilishly difficult to read...
@@MarkerMurker a fable art isn't a good consistent solution. To perfect guard you musr hold block at the exact moment where the enemy is at the peak of their wind up, they pause for a microsecond before they swing. What works for me is to watch the shoulder, the way a boxer would but with some enemies it can still be hard to read.
I find an animation that they do and literally count in my head for when the attack lands afterwards. Then I spam guard until I can figure out the perfect guard timing by counting, and then I count every time I see that animation. This is the only soulslike game where I feel that I can do that consistently
I think whether or not it's better really comes down to personal taste. Lies of P and Dark Souls are quite different, but they're better at different things IMO.
That is so crazy to me that I never perfect parried once on laxasia after you said she’s a heavily focused perfect parry boss which means everyone has a different experience in their playthrough depending on playstyle and build. I still dodge everything like I’m playing dark souls and it works but I have a feeling NG+ will be a different story and I’ll have to perfect parry more
Just finished my second playthrough and it's not terrible about till the nameless puppet that's when you'll definitely need to have perfect block down well enough cause dude is a beyblade on crack that time
Am I the only one that found this games combat really fucking irritating? the enemies move sets are just designed to be really irritating. It's not even hard, just annoying getting hit by some weird ass limb flinging out or small human sized enemies not being staggered and swinging back when they've been hit with what might as well have been a truck. Feels horrible
I think the score definitely is better utilized in Lies of P than Dark souls or all other souls likes mainly bc most of the souls games don’t have much other than the boss music. but I really like the atmosphere in terms of presentation like how you described feeling tragic and sad and hopeless compared to hopeful I really like dark souls and froms approach to this more bc I take it so differently in the sense that it is a tragic and melancholy world that is in constant pain and dispair , and we feel That in the game nonstop and then go to fight over and over despite that is the hope that you bring to the story I like that more I like the idea that as long as you keep going there’s hope. the game doesn’t have any hope I am the hope. I like that dynamic I think it’s a lot more personally attached to the player
That's the point. That's apart of the atmosphere fromsoft builds. Lies of p doesn't use music better it uses it worse I'm sorry fromsoft makes amazing osts and knows how to make the world sound perfect
I'm playing through this game now and I'm having a blast. I think the setting is really neat. The storytelling and level design is a bit more straightforward than the FromSoftware games, but I've been finding it a lovely change of pace. As Renn mentions, the soundtrack here is really diverse and exciting. It sets itself apart enough in tone and mechanics that it stands as a unique and fun challenge, even for a Dark Souls fan like me.
I love lies of P and I beleieve that it has the best level design in any video game ever at least mechanically if not aesthetically but the bosses just objectively werent very good and i couldnt put my finger on why but after playing prince of persia the lost crown I finally realized that it all fell down to how you dealt with the bosses and inlies of P the only thing you could do to learna boss is learn their parry timings and thats it for most bosses as compared to the last crown where you used like a plethora of time based abilities on top of your movement options to deal with every move made by the bosses its just a lot more fun and inutitive learning to fight a boss that way rather than the way lies of P does it which makes it redundant and downright unfun at times
you need to use sentences and structure your paragraphs better. Lies of p also expects you to dodge and use fable arts, more mechanics isn't strictly better
Look, I'll be honest, I wasn't originally going to watch this video, because like you've said before, positive videos just aren't as successful as negative ones. Plus, I had only hear things about this game but havr never seen it, so I wasn't interested. But I wanted to support your channel, and after actually seeing the gameplay, I actually want to get it. It looks like Souls game but the aesthetic is much more like what I'm interested in. Thanks Renn!
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14:51 This is something i have always hated about souls games, its so so annoying to have a character doing a 3 seconds wind up just to launch an attack at the speed of light, seriously, why not use those 3 seconds before the actual attack to make an actual fluid animation where you can see the attack coming towards you?
No one I've seen has mentioned that the game has a french jazz soundtrack, which is crazy because I feel like the tone and atmosphere is what people ACTUALLY like about these games (and games in general) but they convince themselves that it's about progression and boss fights. All you had to say was the Pinocchio game has a gentle sense of lonely ennui.
I love LoP but for me the complexity of the different options of Dark Souls is what gives it the edge for me. You can play Dark Souls so many different ways. LoP forces you to play by a smaller set of rules. This made my following playthrough’s feel dull and repetitive, the story is what kept me going. Also I wish there was more elite enemies like Black Knights of DS, they either give you drunken mobs, or mini bosses that are fun but don’t respawn so the challenge is fully on the shoulders of a few bosses. And these bosses while awesome in every way, feel like they were designed just to punish souls players. Delays, status effects, and very small punish windows. DS3 has the best bosses of any game for me, challenging yet it still feels like I’m playing a game instead of fighting a dev. I thoroughly love it but imo it’s not better, it’s maybe equal with all things considered, and DS3 is 8 years old
This game has no bussiness being THIS GOOD!!! I never played Souls-games before and bought this on a whim because it looked cool. And I loved every second of it. So much love and thought was put into this, it's actually crazy.
Also you need to experiment with weapons more and ignore how much it affects the slash, stab, and smash damage. I was using a weapon where the light attack was completely unviable so i just stuck with heavy attacks because i had realized the R2 animation was just as fast as the R1. Top that off with legion arms, consumables, throwables, amulets and the P organ and this game has a ridiculous amount of combat customization
I tried this on Game Pass, played through to the first big cop puppet in the train station and it throttled me. I thought, ok I'm not liking this. I woke up the next day thinking about it and decided to try again. I spent the rest of the day playing it. What an amazing fun gem of a game.
unfortunatly I dont want to watch the video due not finishing it yet and dont want to be spoiled, but ill say this, this is the first souls game that really kept me playing have a like, and ill be back to watch the vid after i finish.
Tbh I think Lies of P is much more consistent in its quality Usually the souls games, despite having incredible highs, also have some big lows, usually during the last levels (hello Lost Izalit). I was even expecting the last area of Lies of P to be disappointing and short, but it ended up being probably my favorite one in the whole game
It's not. Like, extremely not. To even be mentionned in the same breath as Dark Souls is something Lies of P should wear as a badge of honor. It's a very impressive achievement in regards to the means, budget, resources it had to work with, but it also shows it's impossible to beat Dark Souls with these limitations.
I mean fair enough and Lies of P is certainly a good game, but I didn't quite enjoy it as much tbh. Felt more like another attempt at a Souls-like to rival From Software games, but not quite getting it right. Lies of P might be the closest any game has come to the FS games tho.
Imo I don't just think lies of p "got it right" but managed to take all the right lessons from previous dark souls games and combined them into a more fleshed out way then any of the previous souls games, at least on the combat/boss front, one thing that previous souls games have done better is the world progression, lies of p is very straight forward game with 0 optional areas, which i guess depending on your perspective, isnt a bad thing I don't think this game deserves the dismissive attitude as being "just another attempt at a souls-like to rival from software"
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There is very little to add to your excellent review, aside from the emotional investment in Lies of P, for example, finally being able to hug Spring the cat felt like a vanquished hidden boss or the conversations with the broken puppet in the Swamp chapter. It was as if Round8 sat down at the early design stages and said "How can we improve on the dodge hit dodge game play and the unnecessarily over convoluted side quests of Souls games?" Lies of P also goes down as the most overlooked title from 2023, which illustrates the hollowness of awards and how the gaming world just couldn't get their heads round how a maiden voyage game could be so good. There has always been more than a touch of unwarranted elitism among Souls players and Lies of P just raised the bar considerably for the genre.
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combat wise the only real issue i have is the lack of hyper-armor, specifically the attacks from your blue bar. i should at least be able to get THAT attack off. aside from that, it's really hard to critique this game.
Bloodborne and dark souls 1 had better atmosphere because they relate to our world more. Lies of p is fantasy as much as senior is historical fantasy. P has the best gameplay though as it combines sekiro and bloodborne gameplay which were both groundbreakingly innovative. Demon souls had the best lore as it made very true and novel statements about human nature in a game.
Everyone hates dark souls 2 cause they look back on it- Monday morning quarterback so to speak. Realize that demon souls wasn’t a blockbuster yet dark souls was and kind of did the same thing. At this point, in 2009, was souls an rpg or action game? Are people having more fun using the right items/weapon and careful movement to beat a boss or their combat skills? It would turn out that people liked the combat more- the satisfying feeling of beating the game with boss gameplay while staying at level one. But when dark souls 2 was made, it was unclear what dark souls was. And look at fromsoft’s history here- namely kingsfield, which was 100% rpg and would never be considered souls like action gameplay so to speak. If you approach dark souls 2, minus the dlc lol, as an rpg, you’ll enjoy it more and, perhaps, appreciate it. Though it certainly isn’t my favorite
Its too linear IMO & the skill point distribution doesn't have much meaning without magic but it was still a good game that scratched the same itch as dark souls
The perfect parry is the exact reason I cannot play this game. I loathe partying snd it is literally the entire focus of this game. So it's just literally impossible for me when I could beat all the fromsotfware games in comparison
parrying in this is easier than dark souls, also unlike dark souls parrying too soon just leads to a block if you hold the button down. Parrying is also something you don't pick up right away but learn over time
@Ghorda9 my gamestyle simply doesn't lend to parrying, dodging makes more sense for me and is my go to preference of being mobile. And it being easier than dark souls is negligent because I don't parry in thst game neither
@@coletrainhetrick im pretty sure you can complete the game without perfect block by just dodging most of the time you cant dodge red attacks but you can dodge away so the attack wont hit you i really like this game not as much as souls game but its still up there i think it worth a try be patient and take your time
Overrated game IMO. I rate it below any from game and team ninjas as well. But above any other souls like I have tried. And I don’t consider hollow knight or remnant 2 souls like, otherwise, Lies is inferior to them.
When I was playing through the game it basically felt to me like I was playing an alternate version of Dark souls 3 just with many quality of life improvements. Which is amazing considering DS3 is the GOAT.
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@@itsfresh0420 Maybe he was just fucking with the Act Man a bit there lol. I remember way back in an older video that Renn did mention editing videos for the Act Man at that time so perhaps these guys go back a ways.
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I love how the game combines both Bloodborne's rally system and Sekiro's parry system, but what's more impressive is how the game finds ways to link them together like the P Organ upgrade that lets you gain lost health back through parrying.
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@@mdd4296I was about to comment that! Furi is such a fantastic game
I love a good p organ
@@AlphaGarg really? I never liked Furi, but LoP is top tier.
I genuinely think Lies of P should have been in more "best of 2023" discussion. Its probably in my top gaming experiences of all time
They should've pulled a High Fi Rush and released it this month
Definitely agree, love lies of p I'm on Ng+ 6 I've never played any souls games this much I litterly can't stop playing it's certainly my goty 2023
Have you asked yourself why it's not? Seems pretty forgotten already. I mean unless the prepare to cry puppet king video is still on the way.
@@rob0213cfh it's definitely not forgotten. It did really well, but 2023 was a huge year. There's a lot of really great stuff this year.
It was amazing but the problem is it came out in the same year as baldurs gate 3 which was bound to absolutely OBLITERATE every single game in that same year. Had it come out in 2022 it would have easily swept every game that year.
I love love love that when I broke the Black rabbit big brother's weapon in the first fight it was still broken in the second one but seemed to be able to be broken again. I killed him too fast to find out for real but it was glowing again on each perfect parry.
Yeah, it can be broken again
LoP was amazing but it’s always a bit of a tricky topic comparing contemporary games to older titles especially when those old games provide the entire foundation for the new. I mean, the games should be getting better right? But for whatever things P does better (and some things it definitely does) it will never capture that same feeling I had on my first trips through Bolataria and Lordran simply because it is ultimately derivative. Amazing but derivative.
Hard agree, as much as I liked Lies of P... It won't stay with me like souls games did. I don't know why I feel it's forgettable. Maybe lack of environment variations? Even though there were more than just city, I can't really explain it.
For me, it has surpassed Dark Souls in many ways, but has also not quite lived up to it in many ways.
Its a bit too linear to catch the wonderment of DS1 Lordran, which to this day, is one of my favorite video game worlds every made and feels more like a real world than most modern open world games. It also uses the "enemy hiding behind the corner" trick WAAAAY too much. And its last area drags on a bit too much for my tastes. BUT!!!
Its combat and mini-boss/boss design are second to NONE imo. Story is straight forward. It also, SHOCK, runs at arbitrary framerates (I ran at 144hz, not even supposedly modern Elden Ring ran at more than 60hz without a multiplayer breaking mod) and is VERY WELL optimized (makes combat fluidity even better!). And it feels like the first TRUE high level, modern souls-like experience! Fromsoft could learn a thing or two.
And this is their first outing?! Outstanding! Can't wait for the DLC and sequel!
@@saxoman1the cricket sucked. Hopefully no cricket in sequel
@@BUKUDII personally enjoyed the moments where Gemini was used for exposition or to add some flavor or context to certain areas/scenes.
That being said, unless P is the protagonist of the sequel, there really wouldn’t be any reason for the cricket to be there. Although it’s likely that something similar will be used to fill his role in follow up games.
The people who made this game they used to make Beat games like DjMax and Cytus, the fact this is their first game of such calibre is crazy, unbelievable how they managed to make a game this good at first try when you huge companies like with their endless excuses...
Genuinely one of my favorite people on this platform. Thank you for everything man, I wish you the best.
"Lies of P slightly edges it out for me"
Renn... 🤨
Rightt 😭
Hey, you're the one with your mind in the gutter like a degen.
I actually liked the "NPC" fights in this game. It didn't just feel like they slapped on some loot and a healthbar to an AI-controlled player character. They had actual combos to watch out for (I like Robber Weasel).
They literally fought like they were AI controlled slapped with a health bar and some loot
@@joshuamartinez6722 What I meant is that these Stalker fights felt like actual PVE fights unlike the lazy offline player NPC bosses from Shadow of the Erdtree
@@joshuamartinez6722 Your brain must be damaged, kiddo.
I honestly believe that if this game was made by Fromsoft, it would've been nominated for GOTY. Still probably wouldn't have won, but definitely nominated.
just goes to show how underlooked the indie scene is by companies unless it’s massive enough
this didn't spark the same awe and wonder and true sense of exploration that fromsoft games do for me. i think that is the secret to why fromsoft has become so incredibly beloved, rather than the actual combat or difficulty or whatever.
it'll be cool to see what they do next though, glad this was successful.
Then you realize baldure gates 3, an niche genre made by a low profile studio won GOTY and your theory fall flat
I have been enjoying Lies of P but it's not as good as Dark Souls 1.
It's exploration was a bit more lacking. Character builds are more limited. It's combat is a bit lacking in certain areas and it suffers from artificial difficulty. The game clearly pushes towards aggressive play styles but then certain attacks require you to just run away which ruins the flow of combat. Bosses can be a bit spongey. Random difficulty spikes. Repetitive encounters that all play out similarly and they will all be 1 after the other.
But the things I liked was the grinding wheel is cool. And it has icons next to areas on the fast travel list showing you if you need to talk to someone or something. The story is easier to follow then Dark Souls. The training area next to the weapon shop. The parrying with chip damage is cool. The lock on icon changes for back stabbing.
I can look past it's flaws because it's this companies first big game. Hopefully in their next title they will be able to fine tune everything. It's not like From Softwares 1st souls games didn't have problems. Demon Souls has a spell that you can move at full speed while casting allowing every encounter to be cheesed. Dark souls 1 Dark bead and mannis catalyst...
@@teeman7137 DnD is a household name in the gaming scene and the Baldur's Gate series is one of the most storied and revered series of RPGs. No, Baldur's Gate 3 is not a tiny niche game, sure the studio is not the most well known but the name itself got them a fuck ton of organic marketing.
Another great video by the ActMan
You are seriously criminally underrated. Even if I don't agree with you sometimes, I still value your opinions and laugh at your videos. Cheers, lad.
I started my Souls journey back in 2009 when the only option to buy the game was to import the Asian version. I used my friend's dad's credit card to buy my very first imported item ever... Demon's Souls.
Since then Dark Souls came out, was my favorite game of all time.
Dark Souls 2 came out, was a disappointing yet decent game, I ran PvP arenas in that one, probably the best PvP experience I had in any of the Souls games.
Bloodborne came out, by far was my favorite game of all time. Still is.
Dark Souls 3, the most polished Souls game, a very solid experience that's probably even better than DS1, yet it felt more of the same and too reminiscent of DS1. This feeling was amplified especially after Bloodborne which was a wholly unique experience.
Sekiro, not the biggest fan but still a really good game, final boss Ashina was my favorite boss fight of all time from any game.
Elden Ring came out, 2nd place to only Bloodborne for me as the best games of all time. Elden Ring sometimes even feels like it should be my all time favorite, but Bloodborne edges it out only due to the combat style, speed, eldritch theme and player movement.
Then many many Soulslikes over the years, during those releases, in between. If I only consider true 3D soulslikes, none came close to From Soft for me.
Then came Lies of P. For the first time, in 15 years of Souls, the impossible happened. A game that ranks up there with the very best. I had some high expectations after the demo, but the final product blew me away. It's not perfect, I would have liked more exploration and secrets, but for this dev's first foray into Souls, this is a perfect start.
I still believe Bloodborne and Elden Ring are the better games, and Dark Souls 1 as a whole was a more memorable experience, but I enjoyed Lies of P more than Dark Souls 2, 3 and Demon's Souls...
My current rankings:
Bloodborne
Elden Ring
Dark Souls 1
Lies of P
Dark Souls 3
Sekiro
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls 2
P.S. as an avid DJMax fan for the past 17 years, hearing somber versions of those familiar tunes in Lies of P was another thing that added to the experience.
@@BBQcheese Thank you for sharing your take as well. I certainly enjoy seeing others appreciate LoP for the beautiful game it is.
Who knows, maybe in time From Soft will be having a considerable amount of healthy competition which can only elevate the subgenre they created even further.
Us fans are eating good that's for sure 😁
I adore this man! We must keep him safe!
He needs more credit for effort he puts into his videos
As the first video I've ever seen of yours, I love how up until the end I didn't know if you actually thought it was better or not because of how well you kept up the bit. Everything else was also fantastic. Great stuff!
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It should be called a paris saturday
Getting praise from you is a Rare W for a Video Game.
Perfect Guard is 10x more consistent and clear to learn then dodging.
Finding a point inside a 1d shape is easier then 5d shape.
It's the only game where I don't run past enemies, at all.
I love fighting them.
But I skip 90% of enemies in all souls game once I know the path. Even in Sekiro.
Uhh… 5D? 😅
We can only observe and experience 3 dimensions, 4 if you’re counting time.
Since it’s a video game, it is possible to have 4D representation and interactions within them other than time, such as removing items from a lockbox without opening the box (which is something most people wouldn’t immediately perceive as 4th dimensional)
With all that being said, you could make an argument that s are 4th dimensional movement since you’re passing through physical matter in a 3 dimensional world without being affected by it.
Regardless of whether or not you consider the s to take place in a 4th dimension, the object in which you are dodge rolling or parrying take place in the same 3 dimensions. Hitboxes in souls games are represented with spheres, which are 3 dimensional. As a matter of fact, if the perfect guard collision point in an attack animation literally existed in only 1D it would actually be significantly harder to hit consistently.
10:15 While I do agree with this to some extent, I personally find DS engaging because the gear-locking system pushes me out of playing just the knight class, which is basically the best class in the games.
Also, I've found that DS mainly encourages me to experiment by challenging me to switch things up, not because I NEED to in order to beat a boss or something, but because I WANT to simply to prove to myself that I CAN. Its very much an internal/intrinsic motivation, rather than external/extrinsic. Definitely not for everyone.
For example, after clearing Smouldering Lake (IIRC) with my knight in DS3, I completely stopped all progress to restart with every other class with the primary goal of seeing how far I could get with each class following the "proper" playstyle of each class. With the exception of the Deprived, which I played with zero armor, I usually made it to The Road of Sacrifice before I got frustrated, or in most cases, a bit bored (can't say DS3 is a game in which I enjoy playing the same six exact levels ten times in a row, tbh entirely my fault lmao), and promptly switched to a new character/class.
It was overall, super fun, and it really culminated in my Deprived, when I killed Ludex Gundyr first try (I don't no-life games, so while I didn't expect Ludex to be hard, I also didn't anticipate one-timing him). Cleric was probably my least favorite, although I will say that magic in general, while powerful, feels way too janky and lacking fluidity compared to melee combat.
Frankly, there's something fun about being able to beat the game with the same gear I spawned with at the start (as a knight, the other classes I wielded more varied armories). The only thing I did find annoying (and something I hate in other games too), is when I would come across a new weapon that was just straight-up worse due to my sword being +6ed. making materials less grindy would fix that, because otherwise I don't feel comfortable just tossing materials to Andre to +6 a weapon I don't even know is good/bad yet.
>claims to play Dark Souls
>claims that class selection matter in the game
lmao this clown xDDD
@@KapitanPazur1 at what point did I claim that class selection "matters"? I pick the class that provides the starting gear/stats/spells for the builds I plan to utilize. It makes it faster to get my builds running rather than spending 4 hours farming souls on high wall's dragon.
I assume you're referring to me saying knight is the "best" class, as to which I will simply say, it is the easiest and simplest class. "Best" can mean many different things, but as far as ease and simplicity go, knight is by far the "best"
I recommend paying more attention to that bald spot, gramps.
@@avaliantsoul5408 if you where referring to crystal sage all builds can deal with him using just throwing knives to get rid of the illusions
@@Ghorda9 I assume you're referencing me getting frustrated around the Road of Sacrifice, in which case yes it was the Crystal Sage that was the issue. Its not so much that he's difficult in general (as you mentioned, throwing knives makes it quite easy), but rather that playing a class "as intended" or "the proper way" (aka: role-playing) puts (self-inflicted) restrictions like not using throwing knives/weapons, which makes the fight way tougher. That being said, I also usually had found my groove by that point and wanted to mix it up again for fun, so I would switch. The difficulty of Crystal Sage with no throwing knives just hastened that a bit.
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You're ultra-correct.
Kind of strange to compare this to Dark Souls, yknow. This game pulls much more from Bloodborne, and some of the ways you think Lies of P improved upon Dark Souls are actually taken 1:1 from Bloodborne. I wonder if it would have been a better idea to review the game independently, without the comparison, given that you seemingly haven't played Fromsoft's more recent titles. Anyway, as excellent as I'm sure this game is, in all the footage and talk about it it seems to be missing the certain something that draws me to Fromsoft's worlds. It's really the main reason I care about their soulslikes, the worlds. I suppose it's down to a personal preference for the sort of obscure, melancholic, dying and hopeless places.
The opera house was my favorite area in the entire game. It's not very big, but I just loved the environments, enemies, music and overall mood of the entire thing. Also had my favorite boss fight in the game.
lies of p is one of my favorite games of 2023, and is a must play for souls fans. The entire time i was playing this game i was wondering if i got pranked at the title screen by fromsoft going as an alter studio. Cant wait for a sequel or dlc
Your comment is admission that the game is a blatant ripoff whether you like it or not. It has no identity of its own and neowiz will never compare to fs
@@forwardmoving8252I’ve noticed all your comments are you just thinking you’re superior. You’re probably just a fat internet dwelling teenager who gets zero attention and has created this complex to feel better.
@@forwardmoving8252 holy shit dude you have issues 🤣
@@forwardmoving8252 i can tell that you have never played the game, also all shooters are a "rip off" of Doom
DS3 scream near jailers always gets me.
I like the lack of music sometimes. Just hearing the clank of your armored footsteps with ambient screams or crying makes it so much scarier sometimes.
You nailed it on enemy placement/traps. Another thing that adds that sense of danger around every corner
Yeah but they did it too much, they used the giant ball of puppets like 4 times and made too many ambushes, it gets even worse in NG
Hellpoint, which is admittedly not a game I particularly enjoyed to play, actually had a similar healing consumable refill for damage dealt mechanic and I really enjoyed how much it felt like I was pushed more towards staying in the fight bit by bit, rather than using a massive bundle of consumables across a marathon and either still having too much at the end or none at all.
re: stagger mechanic vs bosses if you have a shotput, you can throw that quicker than it takes to do a charged attack. HUGE help during some bosses!
I found that out... on my 3rd playthrough.
@@RennsReviews i found out from desperation to figure out what the hell they do lol
And throwables are just OP in general
You never fail to amaze me with the sheer professionalism and hard work that you put into every video, not only making relevant points but making them in a way that is consistently entertaining and often downright hilarious. I genuinely feel this channel is destined for ever greater things and I for one am looking forward to being there for the ride as you reach it.
I never felt the need to go farther than NG+ in any fromsoft. I’m on ng4 on Lies and still having fun somehow.
Same, it was also really nice to know that the p-organ still had more upgrades in NG +++
Great video. But I can’t be the only one that wanted you to level your Displate. And I know you knew what you were doing. 😂
The Two Dragons sword is an incredible NG+ weapon.
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One thing I would have to disagree with is when you said the enemy attack telegraph is always easily readable across the whole game, its not. For a lot of the enemies and bosses the attack telegraph is actually really good but for bosses like Simon Manus hes too big, and he takes up a lot of the screen so you can't see him begin his attack animation because its slightly off screen, and for bosses like Luxasia the Complete and The Nameless Puppet, they have zero telegraphs for some of their attacks like the one where the puppet dashes forward instantly or the first attack of Luxasia. Most of the time you just have to die to it enough to have the muscle memory to be able to parry it which isn't very intuitive. Overall great video that I mostly agree with though.
How doesn’t dark souls have music
It doesn't use it liberally. But fromsoft has way better music.
@@jdrok5026 your right, but there is music in every boss fight. I think they sometimes use more atmospheric music that plays in the background, so you don’t always take as much notice
@@shockgames02 it's more of a DS3 thing than the previous two
@@Ghorda9 true I guess there’s not loads of atmospheric music used in ds3. I’ve never played ds1 or ds2 so can’t compare. It’s the boss music that stands out (most of the time), oh and even the main menu music
Dark Souls doesn't have music. It has ambience and atmosphere.
Literally my only problem is the lack of side areas to explore, in every other way it's a perfected soulslike
I also feel like some of the boss mechanics were kind of far fetched. They went a bit overboard with the movesets on bosses like Simon manus who literally cover the entire arena distance with a single melee move. Also the dash for green puppet monster in phase 2, which has a stupid hitbox and hits you into the corner
a linear game these days is very welcome tbh
@@assquiat yeah finally no open world game. I am starting to hate them
@@assquiatlinearity is the main reason i havent played lies of p.
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 it's not extremely linear though. You have multiple ways to go. But those usually lead to the same or an item. Not as open as bloodborne where you can choose which area you do next.
I enjoy Renn's reviews and I think he is a good reviewer.
I think its funny Renn doesn't want to remember ds2 considering not remembering things is a huge theme of that game
Such a good review. Great writing!
How did you finally master the perfect guard? I can do it almost all of the time with some attacks from some enemies, but the delayed ones and many of the more inhuman ones are devilishly difficult to read...
If you're still having trouble, you could use Absolute Defense instead
@@MarkerMurker a fable art isn't a good consistent solution. To perfect guard you musr hold block at the exact moment where the enemy is at the peak of their wind up, they pause for a microsecond before they swing. What works for me is to watch the shoulder, the way a boxer would but with some enemies it can still be hard to read.
I find an animation that they do and literally count in my head for when the attack lands afterwards. Then I spam guard until I can figure out the perfect guard timing by counting, and then I count every time I see that animation. This is the only soulslike game where I feel that I can do that consistently
Do you spam the parry button? Because I found it’s better to hold it instead of spamming it like in sekiro.
@@Spencestar nope.
I think whether or not it's better really comes down to personal taste. Lies of P and Dark Souls are quite different, but they're better at different things IMO.
Lies of p is just basically a inferior sekiro
@@jdrok5026 except it's not that close to sekiro, i also wouldn't call it inferior either
That is so crazy to me that I never perfect parried once on laxasia after you said she’s a heavily focused perfect parry boss which means everyone has a different experience in their playthrough depending on playstyle and build. I still dodge everything like I’m playing dark souls and it works but I have a feeling NG+ will be a different story and I’ll have to perfect parry more
Just finished my second playthrough and it's not terrible about till the nameless puppet that's when you'll definitely need to have perfect block down well enough cause dude is a beyblade on crack that time
Am I the only one that found this games combat really fucking irritating? the enemies move sets are just designed to be really irritating. It's not even hard, just annoying getting hit by some weird ass limb flinging out or small human sized enemies not being staggered and swinging back when they've been hit with what might as well have been a truck. Feels horrible
you need to stop crutching on poise in souls games, you don't need it
I think the score definitely is better utilized in Lies of P than Dark souls or all other souls likes mainly bc most of the souls games don’t have much other than the boss music. but I really like the atmosphere in terms of presentation like how you described feeling tragic and sad and hopeless compared to hopeful I really like dark souls and froms approach to this more bc I take it so differently in the sense that it is a tragic and melancholy world that is in constant pain and dispair , and we feel
That in the game nonstop and then go to fight over and over despite that is the hope that you bring to the story I like that more I like the idea that as long as you keep going there’s hope. the game doesn’t have any hope I am the hope. I like that dynamic I think it’s a lot more personally attached to the player
That's the point. That's apart of the atmosphere fromsoft builds. Lies of p doesn't use music better it uses it worse I'm sorry fromsoft makes amazing osts and knows how to make the world sound perfect
I'm playing through this game now and I'm having a blast. I think the setting is really neat. The storytelling and level design is a bit more straightforward than the FromSoftware games, but I've been finding it a lovely change of pace. As Renn mentions, the soundtrack here is really diverse and exciting. It sets itself apart enough in tone and mechanics that it stands as a unique and fun challenge, even for a Dark Souls fan like me.
I love lies of P and I beleieve that it has the best level design in any video game ever at least mechanically if not aesthetically but the bosses just objectively werent very good and i couldnt put my finger on why but after playing prince of persia the lost crown I finally realized that it all fell down to how you dealt with the bosses and inlies of P the only thing you could do to learna boss is learn their parry timings and thats it for most bosses as compared to the last crown where you used like a plethora of time based abilities on top of your movement options to deal with every move made by the bosses its just a lot more fun and inutitive learning to fight a boss that way rather than the way lies of P does it which makes it redundant and downright unfun at times
you need to use sentences and structure your paragraphs better. Lies of p also expects you to dodge and use fable arts, more mechanics isn't strictly better
It was so good without being pretentious. Loved getting platinum - can't say that about the souls games (ok maybe Elden ring) 😂
He probably didn’t recognized The ActMan without the unibrow
Ain't no way he said LoP is better than DS😂
Like I don't even hate LoP i think its the best soulslike game but come on it doesn't even come close to DS
Spoken like someone who isn't good enough to beat LoP. BTW it is better than Dark Souls 1-3. Maybe you should try.
Look, I'll be honest, I wasn't originally going to watch this video, because like you've said before, positive videos just aren't as successful as negative ones. Plus, I had only hear things about this game but havr never seen it, so I wasn't interested. But I wanted to support your channel, and after actually seeing the gameplay, I actually want to get it. It looks like Souls game but the aesthetic is much more like what I'm interested in. Thanks Renn!
I absolutely love your channel because
1)you make amazing crtitiques
2)you remind me of my long lost uncle whom died in 2016, he was just like you
I miss him so much.
Thank you for existing sir💕
14:51 This is something i have always hated about souls games, its so so annoying to have a character doing a 3 seconds wind up just to launch an attack at the speed of light, seriously, why not use those 3 seconds before the actual attack to make an actual fluid animation where you can see the attack coming towards you?
Man your videos are always a rollercoaster of great writing, nuanced opinions and hilarious jokes. I love you man thanks got the upload.
No one I've seen has mentioned that the game has a french jazz soundtrack, which is crazy because I feel like the tone and atmosphere is what people ACTUALLY like about these games (and games in general) but they convince themselves that it's about progression and boss fights. All you had to say was the Pinocchio game has a gentle sense of lonely ennui.
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I love LoP but for me the complexity of the different options of Dark Souls is what gives it the edge for me. You can play Dark Souls so many different ways. LoP forces you to play by a smaller set of rules. This made my following playthrough’s feel dull and repetitive, the story is what kept me going. Also I wish there was more elite enemies like Black Knights of DS, they either give you drunken mobs, or mini bosses that are fun but don’t respawn so the challenge is fully on the shoulders of a few bosses. And these bosses while awesome in every way, feel like they were designed just to punish souls players. Delays, status effects, and very small punish windows. DS3 has the best bosses of any game for me, challenging yet it still feels like I’m playing a game instead of fighting a dev. I thoroughly love it but imo it’s not better, it’s maybe equal with all things considered, and DS3 is 8 years old
This game has no bussiness being THIS GOOD!!!
I never played Souls-games before and bought this on a whim because it looked cool. And I loved every second of it. So much love and thought was put into this, it's actually crazy.
Also you need to experiment with weapons more and ignore how much it affects the slash, stab, and smash damage. I was using a weapon where the light attack was completely unviable so i just stuck with heavy attacks because i had realized the R2 animation was just as fast as the R1. Top that off with legion arms, consumables, throwables, amulets and the P organ and this game has a ridiculous amount of combat customization
This game looks amazing, too bad i don't have money rn otherwise id love to play
I tried this on Game Pass, played through to the first big cop puppet in the train station and it throttled me. I thought, ok I'm not liking this. I woke up the next day thinking about it and decided to try again. I spent the rest of the day playing it. What an amazing fun gem of a game.
unfortunatly I dont want to watch the video due not finishing it yet and dont want to be spoiled, but ill say this, this is the first souls game that really kept me playing have a like, and ill be back to watch the vid after i finish.
I dont know Lies of P felt kinda mid for me. I completed the game but have no desire to pick it up again.
Gotta admit Renn nose what he’s talking about
3:19 cut the bs this is where the review starts
The problem with Lies of P is the last third of the game, where the story and pacing completely fall apart imo.
Tbh I think Lies of P is much more consistent in its quality
Usually the souls games, despite having incredible highs, also have some big lows, usually during the last levels (hello Lost Izalit). I was even expecting the last area of Lies of P to be disappointing and short, but it ended up being probably my favorite one in the whole game
dark souls 3 was also consistent
Idk if youll see this Renn but you are hands down my favorite youtuber and game reviewer. Keep it up bro
At the end of the day, its just another souls-like. Ive been burned out on those since dark souls 3
It's not.
Like, extremely not. To even be mentionned in the same breath as Dark Souls is something Lies of P should wear as a badge of honor.
It's a very impressive achievement in regards to the means, budget, resources it had to work with, but it also shows it's impossible to beat Dark Souls with these limitations.
Not even close to Dark Souls... This game MIGHT fit alongside Nioh someday, if it's lucky.
@@jessemiller3108Nioh is one of the worse souls likes. Lies of P is absolutely top tier in every way.
I mean fair enough and Lies of P is certainly a good game, but I didn't quite enjoy it as much tbh.
Felt more like another attempt at a Souls-like to rival From Software games, but not quite getting it right. Lies of P might be the closest any game has come to the FS games tho.
Imo I don't just think lies of p "got it right" but managed to take all the right lessons from previous dark souls games and combined them into a more fleshed out way then any of the previous souls games, at least on the combat/boss front, one thing that previous souls games have done better is the world progression, lies of p is very straight forward game with 0 optional areas, which i guess depending on your perspective, isnt a bad thing
I don't think this game deserves the dismissive attitude as being "just another attempt at a souls-like to rival from software"
That video had a very wholesome vibe somehow. Great job! :)
This is the first time I've seen such level of delusion
YOOOOO ITS THE ACT MAN.
The only problem i have with this video is that Lies of P should be compared to Bloodborne and not Dark Souls.
Lol no. It's only got one mechanic from BB and it's better than any DS game in existence.
Lies of P is legit the closest thing we got to bloodborne 2
But it isn't. They don't really share anything in common.
Bloodborne also doesn't need a sequel.
the structure and the environments dude! when watching this video I felt like I was back in yharnam! the areas are so similar!@@jdrok5026
yes but also no...there are so many things left to uncover mate, say if the hunt has ever stopped or not? or what are the origins of the elder ones...the great ones...and find out about the secrets of blood administration by the church and the cruel nature of the hunters which was explained in the old ones dlc,but their origins are still very vague,also chalice dungeons and many more!@@jdrok5026
Not a fan of either or the genre at all for that matter but I'll watch my man Renn regardless lol
It's not.
There is very little to add to your excellent review, aside from the emotional investment in Lies of P, for example, finally being able to hug Spring the cat felt like a vanquished hidden boss or the conversations with the broken puppet in the Swamp chapter.
It was as if Round8 sat down at the early design stages and said "How can we improve on the dodge hit dodge game play and the unnecessarily over convoluted side quests of Souls games?"
Lies of P also goes down as the most overlooked title from 2023, which illustrates the hollowness of awards and how the gaming world just couldn't get their heads round how a maiden voyage game could be so good. There has always been more than a touch of unwarranted elitism among Souls players and Lies of P just raised the bar considerably for the genre.
The thing that I don’t understand is the style of architecture… collodi and Pinocchio are italian so I was expecting more italian type of architecture
Fair enough
i think it's set in or near france
Did displate send you the 3 prints that nobody wanted? Edit I checked their website and they don't even offer a single design id be interested in, was the art done by a Cambodian child?
I'm surprised the security guard didn't already have a "Renn Protocol".
combat wise the only real issue i have is the lack of hyper-armor, specifically the attacks from your blue bar. i should at least be able to get THAT attack off. aside from that, it's really hard to critique this game.
I thought they added hyper armor to the fable arts in a patch if I’m not mistaken
I m downloading it now ..wish me luck ..good review ..subbed ..✌🏻
Bloodborne and dark souls 1 had better atmosphere because they relate to our world more. Lies of p is fantasy as much as senior is historical fantasy. P has the best gameplay though as it combines sekiro and bloodborne gameplay which were both groundbreakingly innovative. Demon souls had the best lore as it made very true and novel statements about human nature in a game.
Everyone hates dark souls 2 cause they look back on it- Monday morning quarterback so to speak. Realize that demon souls wasn’t a blockbuster yet dark souls was and kind of did the same thing. At this point, in 2009, was souls an rpg or action game? Are people having more fun using the right items/weapon and careful movement to beat a boss or their combat skills? It would turn out that people liked the combat more- the satisfying feeling of beating the game with boss gameplay while staying at level one. But when dark souls 2 was made, it was unclear what dark souls was. And look at fromsoft’s history here- namely kingsfield, which was 100% rpg and would never be considered souls like action gameplay so to speak. If you approach dark souls 2, minus the dlc lol, as an rpg, you’ll enjoy it more and, perhaps, appreciate it. Though it certainly isn’t my favorite
You truly have that rare comedian's gift of genuinely not giving a fuck what people think, love ya for that ❤
My theory is that he lied about saying that lies of p is as good as dark souls
I got platinum on this game twice and this video makes me want to do it again
No u didn't
@@El_Diego86 yuh huh
Its too linear IMO & the skill point distribution doesn't have much meaning without magic but it was still a good game that scratched the same itch as dark souls
Thanks my favorite little boy
you just described my experience with Bloodborne
Putting the nose back on in the last bit gave me a good laugh, really enjoyed the video.
The act man wishes he was rennsreviews
Wasn't Sekiro all about the perfect parry???
The perfect parry is the exact reason I cannot play this game. I loathe partying snd it is literally the entire focus of this game. So it's just literally impossible for me when I could beat all the fromsotfware games in comparison
parrying in this is easier than dark souls, also unlike dark souls parrying too soon just leads to a block if you hold the button down. Parrying is also something you don't pick up right away but learn over time
@Ghorda9 my gamestyle simply doesn't lend to parrying, dodging makes more sense for me and is my go to preference of being mobile. And it being easier than dark souls is negligent because I don't parry in thst game neither
@@coletrainhetrick im pretty sure you can complete the game without perfect block by just dodging most of the time you cant dodge red attacks but you can dodge away so the attack wont hit you i really like this game not as much as souls game but its still up there i think it worth a try be patient and take your time
@@MarixEm I've tried the game, I know how it works. and i've pretty much just watched to see how other people who can parry play it
both games are very fun with pros n cons, and i can see why you'd put them where they're at :P
Ur even better than the Lazy Act Man
Overrated game IMO. I rate it below any from game and team ninjas as well. But above any other souls like I have tried. And I don’t consider hollow knight or remnant 2 souls like, otherwise, Lies is inferior to them.
When I was playing through the game it basically felt to me like I was playing an alternate version of Dark souls 3 just with many quality of life improvements. Which is amazing considering DS3 is the GOAT.