7 Ways To Cure Tardive Dyskinesia Naturally
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2022
- Going through a comprehensive list of methods for curing TD through lifestyle, supplements and pharmaceuticals. Also a brief discussion of Akathisia, Parkinsonism and Acute Dystonia.
Yi Gan San is 86% effective not 56%.
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Thank you for the info, my research has just begun. The hardest part of this will probably be giving up the coffee, I hate decaf but I hate having TD even more. TD is really starting to piss me off. At first, I was dealing with it very well but it started to get worse. When I'm in bed the movements that used to only happen in my mouth are now in my back, but that only happens when I'm lying down. I love to play the sax. I started playing the sax about 5 years ago, I took this up because of the mouth movements. Playing the sax requires the development of an embouchure, a specific group of muscles at the front of the mouth. At first, it was hard but I kept practicing, every day for 3 hours, to this day.
Playing the sax is very helpful, I have become quite good, in fact, I'm the best there is. The only potential problem is, I am now starting to feel an involuntary shift in the way I have to mouth the reed. You hit on something when you mentioned caffeine, I drink a lot of coffee during the day, and I'm having one right now, anyway usually at practice time I drink a red bull, which is probably not a good idea either. I'm going to try some of your suggestions, they make a lot of sense. If this is successful I will send you a personal invitation to my first concert, if you're into jazz, Once again, thanks for the input, my friend.
Thanks, Mr. Tuddlah
This has been so helpful!!!
Those energy drinks have some very oddball compounds mixed in with that big blast of caffeine and those chemicals alone could be irritating some aspect of your brain chemistry in unpredictable ways. If you consider the alcohol called jagermeister, my sister says it causes fights from the chemicals it's made out of. A lot of those things turn up in energy drinks.
Came here from my YT homepage. Thanks for the info on some of the alternative treatment methods. I have a large number of folks connect with me over their movement disorders. Cheers man. Keep pushing forward!
Thank you so much !!! This is the best vid on this subject on RUclips.
Thank you! Truly thank you so much for giving me some sort of of hope for not only giving my wife comfort dealing with her TD but possibly curing!
Grateful for this channel. Thank you.
God Bless you so very much!!! You're so appreciated in these trying times!! Day after day everything you do is very much appreciated!! Thank you !!!!
Thanks julia //
Thanks for this
I’ve had this condition twice now due to medications. One medication that caused it was Abilify. I’m terrified of taking medications because of this condition as the second time I actually slurred my speech and my facial muscles cramped up. It’s frightening and unfortunately rare so not too many people know about it. Hospital staff said I was having a stroke. I wasn’t. I was perfectly fine aside from having TD mixed with anaphylaxis.
Hello, please how did you heal from TD? Did you stop taking antipsychotics? Did you start taking supplements? What helped you heal, I pray you see this message and I pray you reply. Thanks.
@@koyesholanke9610Hey have you tried the supplements for TD?? How is it been
@@lsosa233 Yes! Yes! Yes!!! I tried vitamin E supplements and I'm almost fully cured, I'm scared, I just feel like I might not reach a 100% remission but I've continued taking the vitamin E anyway. I would buy Grape seed extract next month because I heard it's 30 times more potent than vitamin E. I'm so happy the vitamin E worked for me because it doesn't work for alot of TD patient. I'm grateful, though I'm not where I want to be but I'm happy I'm not where I use to be. Healing is very very very slow. It's been 9 months using vitamin E. Healing is .... Very.... Very.... Slow!!!
Hello, I have ocd, depression, avoidant restrive food intake disorder, aspd, bpd,
might be bipolar. I have parkisonsm and take lyrica for it. Antidepressants and
antipsychotics have ruined my life, mainly my cognition,
anxiety,
and ability to do tasks, as if it wasnt bad enough. I've been on them for 3 years
now. I'm 20 years old and I'm currently living with my mom, she and my dad really
worship this psychiatrist so they do whatever he wants. I cannot tell them i want to
stop taking the pills besides lyrica and start going to an ADHD specialist who will
actually give me meds for my adhd. Ik its gonna give me moodswings and make
me loose so much weight but I'd rather take that than have all that i mentioned and
more. Is there anything i can do to stabilise my bpd and possible bipolar? Like some
sort of supplement? I've heard meditation helps regulate mood but im too
lazy to do it currently, ive been trying on and off for years but i haven't been
consistent after over i think 3 weeks.
Oh forgot to mention i have some sort of psychosis but i dont remember how
confirmed is that by my psychiatrist
Work on building yourself up, faster than you are being torn down//
Does these supplements have an impact with meds??
Which vitamin e? There is mixed tocopherols and d alpha tocopherol. Mixed tocopherols come from soy which I’m allergic to.I saw an article that said d alpha for TD.
I think your more educated then me on this//
Thank you ❤🙏
Hi there. I don't have schizophrenia, but I'm autistic/ADHD and was wrongly placed on tons of anti psychotics in middle school which made my life hell and left me with medication induced tardive dyskinesia and needing two years of physical therapy to recover from. Unfortunately I just tried adderall and while it was a HUGE help for my ADHD, it exacerbated my TD so much I had to stop taking it after just a few days. I noticed it was worse when the stimulant started wearing off and my dopamine was depleted.
Do you have a source for TD being caused by a lack of dopamine? That info could really help me when researching supplements if so.
I really need ADHD medication, but the TD is making finding one I can tolerate a nightmare ;w;
I'd sue for medical malpractice if I had the money and spoons.
I will say that I experience a mild but noticeable improvement taking Ginkgo biloba. Keep in mind it has a fairly short half life of 5-6 hours and I have no idea how it could affect antipsychotic meds. Also, there was a recent study showing L-theanine, a naturally occurring amino acid in green tea might be able to help TD.
Hey,
TD is caused by excessive dopamine (or rather too many dopamine receptors and high sensitivity) I believe.
Antipsychotic induced TD decreases a lot by 3 years of not taking an antipsychotic but I don't believe it decreases more after 3 years.
I'd try some manganese than maybe some branched chain amino acids. Yi Gan San is more expensive but extremely effective (86% improvement likely in TD (not the 56% I quote above (authors wrote two different numbers, one of which has to be wrong)).
Note fish oil is 60% effective for ADHD (they used krill oil in the study, which is a higher quality fish oil, but regular fish oil should be fine (NOTE: capsules are better than a bottle because the fish oil stays fresh better) and SAFFRON is 70% effective (35$ a month (cheaper than Ritalin which is also 70% effective for ADHD)
20 to 30 mg/day of saffron capsules was used in the study
I'd try fish oil than saffron for ADHD although Ritalin is a nootropic (a substance that enhances brain performance, so you may want to stay on it).
Kids who ate healthy also didn't seem to get ADHD.
(my blog post on ADHD is here: schizoprevent.blogspot.com/2022/10/adhd.html)
Loose theory: taking Ritalin long term may gradually decrease TD with time (as high dopamine will cause your body to produce less dopamine receptors and your sensitivity to dopamine will go down).
There is a statute of limitations on harm which likely applies here so I doubt you could sue.
Wishing you the best of luck
M.P.
You can always take people to small claims court yourself, or hire a paralegal which are much cheaper than a lawyer and can do all the same stuff basically.
If there is harm lawyers will often work for you for ~free getting paid only if they win the case by getting a part of your pay out. (costing you zero dollars up front).
Your still on antipsychotics?
Hopefully some of this info can help point you in the right direction//
Healthy eating only halves your risk of ADHD, check drive other adhd
Do you know if hyperbaric oxygen therapy would help as well?
I've never heard of tardive and that together or parkinsonism. So i don't know. I don't think it would make a difference though. If u have any data on it please correct me!
Are any of these supplements a permanent cure? Or just for a few hours?
Unfortunately i had a very unethical doctor when i was 7 through 10 years old i feel like i was her experiment or something now that i think of it anyways she prescribed me haldol and 9 other medicines well I've had tardive dyskinesia ever since then and it will not go away :(
I have had a similar feeling the last year with a online doctor I decided enough is enough been seeing other doctors hopefully these new ones start to help .Also I am sorry you went through that you would think doctors would have more compassion for a kid .
Bruh that's saddd try to get money and get in a surgery, I think they can fix that in that way. It's invasive but can be a cure. Google it up
Does this help akathisia? I’ve got internal akathisia from benzo withdrawals and antipsychotic
Unknown: Beta-blockers apparently help akathisia (their might be some natural substance that does this effect) --- Manganese might help more than just TD (likely parkinsonism, less likely aka) as the manganese study is very old and diagnoses weren't as differentiated back then (so this might be worth trying).
The Ashton manual has some useful tips for benzo withdrawal (along with taperingstrip.com)
Sorry I couldn't be more of a help.
I did 45 minutes of research,
There may be some overlap between TD and aka so some of the tips may work(?)
BUT vitamin B6 has been shown to help (50+% improvement in aka) at 600mg twice a day (1200mg total). (Please look up potential side effects and if this dose is too large for long term use or not.)
www.researchgate.net/profile/Vladimir-Lerner/publication/260984405_Comparison_of_vitamin_B6_mianserin_and_placebo_in_the_treatment_of_acute_neuroleptic-induced_akathisia_a_randomized_double_blind_controlled_study_Clinical_Neuropharmacology_2968-72_2006/links/02e7e53462e26dbc7f000000/Comparison-of-vitamin-B6-mianserin-and-placebo-in-the-treatment-of-acute-neuroleptic-induced-akathisia-a-randomized-double-blind-controlled-study-Clinical-Neuropharmacology-2968-72-2006.pdf
www.researchgate.net/publication/8172069_Vitamin_B6_Treatment_in_Acute_Neuroleptic-Induced_Akathisia_A_Randomized_Double-Blind_Placebo-Controlled_Study
Low iron may be linked (?) www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673687926870
Increasing GABA (neurotransmitter) looks like a promising potential treatment to try (definitely worth trying/looking into)
journals.lww.com/intclinpsychopharm/Abstract/2005/05000/Gabapentin_in_the_treatment_of.11.aspx
Hope this improves your condition..
Thnks for the comment 👍
@@MatthewPierce
thank you I was researching too. It looks like b1 is another vitamin that gets depleted from medication and various foods causing TD & akathisia. I see some are having results with detoxing the body and restoring vitamins and minerals not a lot of success in the groups. I’ve been on a very restricted diet to keep glutamate levels down and trying mega b1 dose and healing my gut getting my methylation system working properly. I’m no longer on any of the medication my doctor took me off everything abruptly that’s what gave me both td & akathisia. During all my research I find that symptoms of schizophrenia manifest in the gut microbiota and our genetics methylation system due to toxicity of bio toxins heavy metals, mycotoxin’s and excess histamine buildup. Also if the gut is impaired with leaky gut, sibo, sifo, parasites and candida that’s what can cause symptoms. Antipsychotic meds are big antihistamine drugs. You may like Dr Natasha Campbell McBride research. You are very intelligent. I really appreciate you taking the time to look it up. I think the next thing I’m going to study is Krebs cycle. What are your theories?
Hi I hope you’re having a good day I have started a prolong water fast I feel 1 million times better and clearheaded I do not feel like I am tripping on acid or messed up on drugs that akathisia is also calm. I’m currently going through abruptly stopping psych meds and benzos withdrawals. I’ll be 2 years out on my birthday September 11th in The support groups I see most people hill at 2 1/2 to 3 years off if they take care of their body and heal their gut. Benzodiazepines and psych drugs destroy your gut and make it hard on your body like schizophrenia exactly. I’m going to do the gas introduction diet once I get done with the prolong fast to re-introduce foods and to build the lining of my stomach back. Since you like studying so much you might like Robert Whittaker he did a conference on psychiatric drugs he also is part of mad in America. He’s a very well-known man.
Here’s one of his lectures about how people heal off of antipsychotics and then they actually recover better
ruclips.net/video/J4guc7Q8PaQ/видео.html
Why no mention of b6? Its the most studied
If you want to send some links, I'll look into and potentially add it to the list!
I haven't heard of b6 having an effect on TD before.../
I got tardive dyskinesia when the doctor gave me cipro and reglan
Reglan has TD as a side effect. It works by blocking dopamine same as antipsychotics for schizophrenia. The solutions in the video above should successfully treat your illness./
Do you have a link to any research on the manganese?
orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1994/articles/1994-v09n01-p007.shtml
isom.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/JOM_1976_05_1_02_Manganese_and_Niacin_in_the_Treatment_of_Drug-.pdf
Note: yi gan san is likely a 86% improvement (the paper qoutes two different numbers)
The papers are in here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3eX0nlkVBRReXFXN2VpT0stQW8?resourcekey=0-CEtehUe4GjpOQ6KoVCLTqw&usp=sharing
If u want to download all the science references and search through them
Hopefully this helps//
What about Paroxysmal Kinesigenic Dyskinesia. Is there a better way to treat this my daughter has it but it’s minimal movements right now, but she’s on medication and I’m scared it’s gonna make her worse
I know nothing about this condition
That said you could look up natural alternatives to the medication she is on,
I looked up natural alternatives to anticonvulsants and came upon an article for natural remedies for epilepsy.
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317922
Maybe some of these ideas would work, I do not know. (THC is very bad for young people, but I'm not sure if CBD is okay or not, I believe keto is safe enough (long term keto likely lowers lifespan slightly, but would be worth doing if it prevents the seizures, keto is used on epileptic children, so I presume it would be safe for her) .. Pharmaceutical medications seem very effective, but side effects are usually less ideal than vitamin/mineral/herbal alternatives. I simply do not know much about this topic.
google scholar might have other alternatives you could find, Alexandra Elbakyan's website is often useful---once you've found the article of interest/
Srry I couldn't be of more help//
mercola might have other solutions
Could supplementing with dopamine make TD worse? Or can it improve the condition?
I don't think it makes the condition worse. And it improves parkinsonism
It would be perhaps likely to make schizophrenia worse (not TD) but research shows this seems to be not the case.
TD is caused by a lack of dopamine//
That’s what I’ve gathered as well. But my neuro told me it is due to too much dopamine and so reading on it again afterward, I think it has to do with dopamine not being processed properly in the brain? I’m not entirely sure, it can be hard to understand medical articles. My blood work as of November, showed I’m low in dopamine so I want to try the suggestions in this video and I plan to supplement dopamine.
The one intervention i list works by lowering dopamine in the pre synaptic cleft, so it might be tied to TD.
I'd try a few things and see what helps!!
The body does adapt to antipsychotics and L-dopa by making more or less dopamine receptors (with many higher sensitivity receptors produced with prolonged antipsychotic use).
Branched chain amino acids and manganese would be fairly simple to try. Vit E is supposed to be generally good for you i believe, could try that eventually too. Yi gan san might be too expensive, but it is effective on schiz and TD.
I’m currently on 5 mg of Zyprexa so it has not happened to me yet. Although I’ve been on antidepressants and antipsychotics for 30 years. Thanks.
What antipsychotics were you put on in what order? Did you have trouble switching from one to another? ?
@@MatthewPierce I was put on first generation antipsychotics fluphenazine, trifluoperazine and second generation antipsychotics clozapine and olanzapine. My white blood cell count dropped on clozapine so I was put on 10 mg of olanzapine, which has dropped to 7.5 mg to 5 mg. I’ve been on olanzapine for 20 plus years. I put on a lot of weight because of this drug. I don’t smoke, drink or take illicit drugs. I take vitamins and exercise regularly.
I’ve lost weight and it remains relatively stable.
Thanks for sharing))
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Only after he beat the hell out of Conner McGregor. He had nowhere else to go but into medicine 😂
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Marijuana helps out. You can get a mixture of CBD and THC oil , eat edibles or just smoke it
Really?? I think it helps your brain to stay more paranoic and have hallucinations, don't recommend that. People can get worse outta that
about Managnese as manganese citrat glucanat as supplement is 10-30mg good, 30mg already too much daily, on the other side you need to take iron supplement Not together with manganese, low dose Iron Supplement prevent that manganese akkumulates in brain
Why are you calling us
Schizophrenics I’m no where near that. This is crazy no wonder I can’t get a job!! Mine was from medication that I tried once.
The channel is called schizophrenia help - originally it only dealt with schizophrenia and is still focused mainly on that.
Some of the data may still be helpful to you, but it was created with schizophrenia in mind. Most TD cases are caused by antipsychotics for either schizophrenia or bipolar, although other medications can cause it too. I am not sure if the listed interventions would help non-antipsychotic caused TD but it would likely be worth giving a few a try to see.
Best of luck//
A lot of the time akathisia can come from medications meant to treat schizophrenia. Abilify was the medication that did it to me but I was given it for bi- polar.
@brendystewart I had the same thought at first then saw the channel name. My TD was also caused by (11) medications over a 6 year time-frame from multiple doctors (one mainly to start). The SSRI meds such as Hadol screwed me the most and Matthew's coverage of Tetrabenazine was certainly working for me during the short time I was prescribed it. In the end the everybody is an individual body. So, every body will react differently to these treatments and those prescribed by doctors in the medical 'practice'. Once, again, great coverage on the topic for natural treatments Matthew, by no means, am I trying to hijack the comments, just letting a helping hand with this comment as it appears to line up with my initial thought and their cause of TD.
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You’re not even pronouncing it, right
So insignifigant!!!
Right. How can I trust the advice of someone that can't pronounce it right.
What are you doing to try to help people? You might want to help, not hinder or criticize.
@@adancerinaz99 If you don't trust advice from anyone, do your own research and see what helps you. If you're thoughtful enough, you do what the creator of this video does, try to help others with what you find.
@@dinawestermeyer1019the difficulty here is these people were damaged by somebody. He doesn't mention the antipsychotics causing the tardive dyskinesia very much and he just keeps saying you can share it with this and that but he doesn't mention that if you quit the antipsychotic you'll get worse and if you keep going it'll get. I can't imagine what most of these people did to deserve the kind of punishment that these motion disorders are.