I live in an old juglans hindsii orcahrd. Northern california black walnut, the only Real "Claro". So I bought a mill and have begun to mill it in slabs. 5 trees down and each has its own unigue colors and figure. When cut, I let them dry for 5 years. But the last one, cut 3 months ago, in November, I am going to mill "soon". I sealed the ends with wax and paint right after I dropped the tree. .... I mill the limbs and I don't leave much wood on the ground. I also pulled the stumps. Hindsii has huge roots. Monster roots. One root system has multiple roots growing back into its roots. took 2 hours to pull the big ones, 20" diameter. Pit was 6'x6x6' Like 400 cubic feet / 14cubic yards, to yank that puppy out of the earth. I haven't sold any wood yet so today I'm researching the values. (I make videos showing the whole process)
there's an ecosystem of profit in the tree market and the owner of the timber is at the bottom of the food chain. It's better to buy your own equipment and harvest your own timber to cut out all the predators who survive off your property by shifting your valuable assets into their bank accounts. If you mill your own timber you can direct sell to wood workers at maximum profit, dont let other people make a living off your property
We had a giant walnut fall after a wind straight a few days ago. Very thick very tall. I'm still devastated. It was my favorite tree. Ripped up by the roots. My fiancee wants to sell it and I want to prop it up and admire its natural beauty even though it is dead. We lost 7 trees in the wind straight. They were all our 100+ foot trees so our view had been destroyed. I've considered selling the walnut to buy new baby trees but it's hard to let it go. Even for a few thousand. 😢
Thanks for the info! I recently purchased a 60 acre timber tract in West Virginia with the sole purpose of an investment property. I had a timber tax basis report done per your recommendation. It has 176,000 bf of 16" and wider (DBF) hardwood timber on it. Lots of popular but still a fair amount of white oak, red oak and hard maple. I'm aware of the timber market being low right now and was wondering what your recommendation would be for when to have a harvest done. Whether that be sooner than later or if I should wait for timber prices to go up.
For the most part it will be the mills that set logs like that aside to sell to the specialty market. In very rare cases wood workers will buy direct from the land owner but that rarely happens.
Without having a relationship w a mill, how would one find out what a tree species is bringing at the mill other than using a generic publication such at timber mart south? And that publication only breaks it down to pine and hardwood pulp, or pine and hardwood sawtimber. It doesn't break it down by species. Thanks!
Great question. Unfortunately there are no good resources that I am aware of. Best bet is to get multiple bids on timber regardless if it’s standing timber or already harvested and hauled in. (Have mills come look at the cut logs then send them in once you find the highest bidder)
Yeah well I guess it's where you live cause in PA I couldn't get two mills even interested in 5 logs no knots that were over 24 inches and 12'6" long the guy from the mill said get them here and we will buy them but not worth messing with to come get them
I live in an old juglans hindsii orcahrd. Northern california black walnut, the only Real "Claro". So I bought a mill and have begun to mill it in slabs. 5 trees down and each has its own unigue colors and figure. When cut, I let them dry for 5 years. But the last one, cut 3 months ago, in November, I am going to mill "soon". I sealed the ends with wax and paint right after I dropped the tree. .... I mill the limbs and I don't leave much wood on the ground. I also pulled the stumps. Hindsii has huge roots. Monster roots. One root system has multiple roots growing back into its roots. took 2 hours to pull the big ones, 20" diameter. Pit was 6'x6x6' Like 400 cubic feet / 14cubic yards, to yank that puppy out of the earth. I haven't sold any wood yet so today I'm researching the values. (I make videos showing the whole process)
The black walnut tree is worth money white oak trees are worth money around where I live those two are the top paying trees
there's an ecosystem of profit in the tree market and the owner of the timber is at the bottom of the food chain. It's better to buy your own equipment and harvest your own timber to cut out all the predators who survive off your property by shifting your valuable assets into their bank accounts. If you mill your own timber you can direct sell to wood workers at maximum profit, dont let other people make a living off your property
So spend 100k on equipment to harvest 1 woods every 20 years? Surely you understand your resolution is economicly retarded at best.
We had a giant walnut fall after a wind straight a few days ago. Very thick very tall.
I'm still devastated.
It was my favorite tree. Ripped up by the roots. My fiancee wants to sell it and I want to prop it up and admire its natural beauty even though it is dead.
We lost 7 trees in the wind straight. They were all our 100+ foot trees so our view had been destroyed. I've considered selling the walnut to buy new baby trees but it's hard to let it go. Even for a few thousand. 😢
Thanks for the info! I recently purchased a 60 acre timber tract in West Virginia with the sole purpose of an investment property. I had a timber tax basis report done per your recommendation. It has 176,000 bf of 16" and wider (DBF) hardwood timber on it. Lots of popular but still a fair amount of white oak, red oak and hard maple. I'm aware of the timber market being low right now and was wondering what your recommendation would be for when to have a harvest done. Whether that be sooner than later or if I should wait for timber prices to go up.
*(DBH)
Depending on the scenario, I have seen jobs go for really good money. That being said I feel like the market will rebound this fall/winter.
@@treestandforestry Thanks! Sounds like it wouldn't hurt to wait it out a little bit.
We just had a large amount of white oak cut and were getting 1.80 a board ft,
That’s really good, obviously it varies a lot depending on location and how much veneer is mixed in.
What makes a tree a good Veneer tree?
Zero defects. Unfortunately most people do know what to look for in a defect though, I may do a video in the future on this subject.
How do we sell unique stumps (triple tree, weird burls, etc.) to artists who make tables, etc.?
For the most part it will be the mills that set logs like that aside to sell to the specialty market. In very rare cases wood workers will buy direct from the land owner but that rarely happens.
Without having a relationship w a mill, how would one find out what a tree species is bringing at the mill other than using a generic publication such at timber mart south? And that publication only breaks it down to pine and hardwood pulp, or pine and hardwood sawtimber. It doesn't break it down by species. Thanks!
Great question. Unfortunately there are no good resources that I am aware of. Best bet is to get multiple bids on timber regardless if it’s standing timber or already harvested and hauled in. (Have mills come look at the cut logs then send them in once you find the highest bidder)
Yeah well I guess it's where you live cause in PA I couldn't get two mills even interested in 5 logs no knots that were over 24 inches and 12'6" long the guy from the mill said get them here and we will buy them but not worth messing with to come get them
What states do you mainly work in?
I stick to Ohio as of now but I have some things in the works.
What is a good diameter of a black walnut tree, to harvest
18” chest high diameter and larger.
Logging costs are the same, move in and move out costs, whether it's one tree or 1000.
Exactly.
I only have an acre full of trees so I guess I can't sell it?
Yeah you will struggle to find a buyer for such a small amount.
'PromoSM' 😢