Samyang AUTOFOCUS 12mm f/2 Fujifilm X Mount
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0:00 Intro
0:29 Up Close
2:40 Unedited Sample shots
3:18 Autofocus
4:52 Image Quality part 1
5:25 Stop Down Test
5:57 Image Quality part 2
6:37 More Unedited Sample Images
7:20 Do I like it then?
8:00 Final Samples
8:49 Final Thoughts
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Thank you Damian for all reviews especially this one. Brum really reminds me when I was doing my Uni studies there, left Brum for well over 10years ago and I'm sure it has changed a lot. Kinda feeling sad cause time flies, moving forward, happy memories, cheers Damian and stay safe😉😊
Hi Alan, Brum changes every few months it seems :D I don't go in to town as often as before and I notice something new every time now!
I like the way you present and watch all your videos, keep sharing expertise and nice products
Thank you Deepak, I appreciate it!
3:58 I love how the guy looks like he wants to build something and you stand there hysterically panning the camera😂
Ah this guy, love him but that was the actual speed he helped me build my gym at 😅😅😅😭😭😭
Good informative video Damian.This looks like a cracking addition.👍
Thanks!
Brilliant review as always! Thanks! Very helpful!
Thanks Paul!
I was looking for a test which shows its performance for in car videos so that intro helped a lot thanks! Would like to see further in car tests for other wide angle lenses.
Finally somebody understood the test in the intro :D I've recorded an intro in car for another wide angle lens that'll be up very soon....
Looking forward to getting one, thanks for your review!
Enjoy! I think it's coming in stores this week apparently
Nice review, Damian... glad that some third party realized the need for more options at the wide end for landscape and astro. Wish it had an aperture ring, but seems like a value regardless
Thanks TJ!
Need to get this before nov. 4 for trip to Banff and astrophotography. Great video, your samples make me see that it’s more useful than I though.
Canada? Awesome. One day I hope to visit!
wonderful photographs -water reflections and cycle-excellent
Thanks!
Nice review. I'm interested in this for interiors, and more so Astro when I'm out in the wilds of Shropshire. I generally use longer lenses for landscapes, wide lenses like this are only actually useful for very specific landscape shots.
Brilliant, Shropshire is gorgeous. I mean it's not quite Brum but it has it's views. *Joke
I have the samyang 35mm f1.2 and the old 12mm f2 and man, this is insane bang for the bug. realy lovely image quality. thanks for showing this!
You're welcome Dieter.
Great review, mate. I'll take all the lenses if I could.
Yes mate, I know there's more to come so let's see!
It's nice to see Fuji has finally opened up it's X Mount to third party lens producers (for autofocus lenses), I don't think it's a coincidence considering the imminent arrival of the X-H2 & X-T5 with their higher megapixel sensors in the next 12 months or so.
It was definitely time to allow it I think.
@@DamianBrown It could also mean we start seeing some good autofocus lens adapters for EF & F glass, my X-T4 didn't like the Viltrox EF adapter so hopefully there will be some new ones soon that don't crash my camera.
Great vid. Just got my XT4 - looking at lenses now.
Exciting!
I had the MF version as my W option when I first got into Fuji and loved it. For astro it was particularly superb. I sold it to fund a 10-24.
I really liked the look of the old lens too, and the aperture collar was really nice.
I'm not sure about this new model. AF on an ultra-wide is not all that important, and the deletion of the aperture collar would put me off. TBH I'd buy the old one again :-)
MF Version is a classic!
been considering getting the 10-24 for real estate videography, how does the lens handle distortion?
@@eliasali9383 I've not used mine indoors, but I will say that Fuji lenses are well corrected for distortion in camera. Of course, keeping the camera straight and level helps!
Nice review also nice to see Birmingham city centre after being away from the office since Covid started
Thanks. Had to get out to my old stomping ground instead of staying in north brum most the year :D
I Had the manual focus one and about half of my shots did not get perfect focus, still I used it so much!. I am definitely looking forwards to buy this one!!
I'm loving it!
It looks like a really fun lens.
Definitely is for me at least!
Nice review! This is definitely going to my camera bag. I love their 1st version but I need auto focus especially for video! I really don't care about the aperture ring as I can do that in the camera. I hope to see more Samyang lenses for Fuji!
Pretty much my feelings too, although I do like an aperture ring it hasn't stopped me enjoying this lens.
This lens looks amazing, great value over the Zeiss. Other lens I hope for is a NEW 18mm F2. At this point I wouldn’t mind if it came from a third party manufacturer like this Samyang, with this many features and image quality they are a good alternative over native glass
You'd think one of them would come out with a 16-18 :)
Nice review and lens. I 'd like to see Samyang covering the gap in Fuji's line at the 27mm focal length with a fast f1.4/f1.2/f1.0 weather sealed lens with an aperture ring.
Another shout for 27 on here :D
as the wise Dee Rosa talks in his videos - that fuji needs more pan cake like lens, I do agree when the list of prime lens right now both X mount and 3rd party lens are quite large in the f1.4 category and respectfully saturated already
- I think it makes sense for Samyang coming in to the X- mount to bring their 24mm f2.8 and 35mm f2.8 that look in this image very compact and exactly the kind of walk around lens that some people may desire. those lens should be able to be sold just as cheap to interest some buyers as well instead of fast lens that might be a little too close in cost to other lens options in the fuji x- mount lens line up.
personally having only own the 18mm f2 and 35f1.4 for prime lens, I might choose the 24mm f2.8 as a pancake prime lens option to use.
I agree, I do like the look of their "tiny" lenses for a good run around and back up set.
I own one and i have an issue with back button focusing in c-af mode. The screen will froze immediately after pressing shutter to first posion (ae lock) if i am pressing back focus button and the aperture is F2,2 or higher an.
That's not good, I never noticed but let's see, I'm going to check it out again later.
This is so good! This might finally be the wide angle lens for me.
I'm enjoying it :)
This lens is what I need! When will it be available in the US? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Good question. Let's see what they say.
Great review and test shots, as always! Nice and interesting lens, though from what I see, it’s no match (in terms of IQ) for Fuji’s 10-24 (except for the maximum aperture, of course).
The 10-24 is excellent to be fair!
You know, I don’t think a lot of people used it, but the 21 mm on the Old Fuji bodies was wonderful. I know they don’t have a Sony version of that from what I can see, but I’d love for them to adapt that to their new style. The 12, 21, 35, and 50 would be a wonderful set.
Good shout, I used it and it was very good.
Hope it's great for astro photography like the MF version. I do landscape and astro photography, and would definitely consider this ones more review comes out. Looks promising.
Ye I'm looking forward to seeing what the astro shooters so with it too.
Not sure I need a 12mm but seeing any AF third party lens for Fuji is great, as long as I can get something cheaper than the Fuji ones I’m happy, as long as it’s any good that is.
I was on that Car Park roof a few months ago, tried getting some shots on the ‘skybridge” but nobody was coming through which didn’t help.
Ye you really need a subject in that spot. I went once with another lens and it was closed off so that was even worse. Pretty cool car park to get wide panoramics though!
I will wait for Viltrox 13 mm and then I will decide.
Thank for the review.
How this lens will perform on an older XT-1? 🤔
Good question! I'm waiting to see if anybody tries it, or if I get my hands on a T1 again.
Great video mate! It'd be nice to see Samyang 24mm and 75mm f1.8 for Fuji X mount really.
Thanks. 24 and 75 sound like a good shout.
Hello! What do you think about comparing this samyang and carl zeiss 12mm?
Great idea. If I get my hands on the Zeiss I'll take a look.
Sweet, finally some Fuji love. That 75 1.8 please
Yes Ryan! That would be something.
That 35mm pancake looks delicious!
I think it would be very cool for travelling with!
Do you get 12mm on the fuji xt4 or is there a crop factor that converts to an angle of 18mm?
The crop factor applies.
Excellent review. Have you tried how well it performs for low light video?
Not that much yet no.
The page says it isn't compatible with Bayer cameras like the X-T200. Any chance you still have one of those to try it on? I'm curious if it's entirely inoperable, or if just the AF isn't usable and the aperture and still be controlled from the body
I haven't, but I really want to find out. I'll let you know if I get any better idea.
14mm 2.8 would be nice, at the right price. It would need to be 2/3rds (or less) than the Fuji version for me to consider it though.
Good call!
For distortion， how it compares to TTArtisan 7.5mm f2? I don't mind MF if it get great results.
It's not really a comparison, that lens is much more extreme and therefore distorted than this. Good fun though.
@@DamianBrown Thank you !
Compare with the Carl Zeiss Touit 12mmf/2.8 which one is better for stills photo?
Would be cool!
Pretty perfect vlog lens I bet
I might give it a bash. Worked well enough in the intro.
Great review!!! Really helps me to choose this lens for my wide angle lens. By the way, may I ask you a question, how can you set the aperture manually from f/2 to f.22 since it doesn't have ring aperture on the lens? Thanks mate
Using the front command dial on the camera, in my case. So right by the finger on the shutter, pretty ideal really.
Thanks for that, I thought it was stuck at F2🤣
I've neglected my 12mm samyang manual because I just can't get into the manual focus. Might make the switch, depending on how well this performs against its predecessor.
I'm enjoying this lens
it is said that samyang has serious problems with ibis in XS10... do you have this combo to test it ?
I don't, sorry!
Damian which lens do you prefer for video and travel. Viltrox 13 1.4 or Samyang 12 2.0 ?
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... looks great. A bit on the plasticky side, though.
But why no f ring? Does the focus ring double as apperture when in AF mode, perhaps?
I just adjust it with the front dial on the camera, right by the shutter button so comfortable to do although I do prefer a traditional aperture ring.
@@DamianBrown Isn't that like missing the point of the Fujifilm X system with the traditional and so useful feature of aperture ring on the lens itself?
Whoa did not expect
Nice surprises.
Please give us a head to head comparison with the Viltrox 13mm. Thank you!
Seems to be a popular request :D
Finally someone made a new fast wide angle lens, been waiting for Fuji to introduce wide prime for a long time. I don’t get it why Fuji is stubborn enough not to make wide primes 10mm, 12mm apsc and medium format lenses?
Hopefully other companies follow what samyang is doing here
Just testing the Viltrox 13mm so let's hope Fujifilm see the demand
I think it's to preserve longevity for their bottom line. All the tech is there, camera companies just keep moving the needle at a snail's pace to keep the profits coming in.
Anyone knows if it's compatible with the Xt200?
Good question.
It does look like a nice little lens.
I think so
Nice lens Nice beats 🎧
Thanks!
Thanks. As I can see Fuji mount is significantly more expensive than Sony E mount :/ Ok let's wait for Viltrox 13mm it's just around the corner :)
Thanks
Nice review! The price in Spain is 449 euros, I was expecting a lower price.
Thanks for letting me know! I was too.
Thank you for this video, Damian! On some places online one can read that this lens does not work with Fujifilm's IBIS in the X-T4 (and maybe in the X-H1). Is that true? Or has this issue meanwhile been solved via firmware update?
Mine worked flawlessly with the T4 and I imagine the copy of the lens I had was the first firmware version.
@@DamianBrown Thank you, Damian!😊
For a 12mm Distortions are well controlled.
I agree Marco.
Hopfully they come out with a 16-55 2.8 need a budget zoom
That would be very nice!
@@DamianBrown definitely
That is soo small compared to the RF version for Canon. Nice Review!
Thanks!
I wonder, if this lens is compatible with my Fuji X-M1 camera? Does enybody knows this? On the manufacturers site is not on support and not on not-supported list? Thanks.
This is a good question. I want to get hold of an older Fujifilm body again to try as a lot are wondering the same.
@@DamianBrown thank you!
I expect this is a really stupid question as I am new to the Fuji system, but if it has no aperture ring then how do you set the aperture?
With the wheel near your shutter button. Pretty easy to be fair and for some people more convenient.
@@DamianBrown Thanks, I actually have that front wheel set to exposure compensation, (with the exposure comp dial set to "C"), but presumably I could switch between the two functions by pressing the wheel in?
Did you own the previous manual 12 mm? Can you compare them?
I used it a lot but it's been a long time. It's a good idea though. I might have to get hold of one.
I've already bought the manual 12mm f2 and the 7artisans 12mm f 2.8 after watching your reviews. Strangely I prefer the 7artisans for astro as infinity is not as hit and miss as the samyang, even though I marked the lens during daylight to get it right its still easy to knock it out of focus at night when it's subzero here in Iceland. Do I really need another 12mm? Well the auto focus on my xt20 isn't good enough in low light but the weather sealing could be useful as I've had both the others fog up whilst standing around freezing my ***s off waiting for auroras, so maybe of its around 400 quid it will be worth a gamble.
Weather sealing won't prevent fogging - the lenses aren't air-tight.
I'd say so Tony. Worth a try. You're a tougher man than me shooting at subzero.
@@quikee9195 my fuji 16mm 1.4 doesn't seem as prone to fogging as the others, so I was just being hopeful that the weather sealing might help even if it doesn't cure it. Maybe it's just down to the better overall build quality of the fuji lenses that it's not so much of a problem?
@@DamianBrown its not through choice that I'm out sometimes when it's down to - 25c windchill 🥶
Nice review, seems the colour rendition is better than the old mf version or did you do much to the pictures you showed? Whats your impression?
Thanks. The images are untouched. I think the colours are more "clean" maybe vibrant, less moody character than I remember the classic having.
Man, sucks that you didn’t include a video section! How’s the stability compared to a xc 15-45mm with OIS? Did you get a chance to test it out for vlogging? The only thing that’s stopping me from ordering one of these is the question on stability for vlogs!
As it doesn't have OIS it depends on the body. With the T4 it's pretty solid.
@@DamianBrown i was planning on pairing this with the xs-10, what do you think?
how do u change the aperture on these?
I use the front dial on the camera, it's actually quicker because it's the same finger I press the shutter button with.
Have the old MF version and think I will stick to that. Works perfect with focus peaking.
The classic!
I have that one. No complaints.
Can you please make a video and talk about the issue of the new samyang 12mm af f2 lens. Concerning the problem with the ibis when used in combination with the x-s10. Because for some reason, the ibis stops working. Fujifilm and samyang are not doing anything to fix this, but maybe if we get enough people talking about it, they will address the problem. Thank you.
If I had the X-S10 I could test this yes.
@@DamianBrown if you get the chance to test it, that would be awesome. But also, if you could just mention in one of your videos, that you are hearing of such a problem, I would appreciate it. It’s apparently a very common thing with this combination. And Fujifilm and samyang ain’t doing anything to fix it.
Without an aperture ring, how do you set aperture? Maybe it's obvious because he didn't answer and no one in the comments is asking, but I don't know. Physical controls, including aperture rings, were a big part of why I chose Fuji
It can be changed with the front dial which is sometimes quicker being right by the shutter button.
I think most of us prefer a physical aperture ring but it's left out a lot to keep size, weight and mostly cost down. Usually I'm fine without it, if I have to work the exposure compensation a lot (which I do via the front dial too) it can get awkward having to press the button to switch functions. But if I'm not changing the exposure compensation, it's a simple turn of the dial to go through the aperture range.
@@DamianBrown thanks my dude
How does this compare to the Fuji 16mm?
Totally different focal length.
why did you cover the fujifilm writing on your camera?
Just for discretion, nothing special.
How does the lens do with video?
Good question seems to be the main audience for this lens.
Good question. I used it in the intro as an example and overall it's pretty good. The af is excellent, albeit in the intro clip it lost me briefly. More to study on that one.
I read a review on B&H that said this lens doesn't work with the xh2s. Is this true?
I haven't been able to try the combo, hopefully somebody can confirm on these comments!
@@DamianBrown I suppose for landscape and astro, AF isn't that important, but it would be nice to have!
How do you change the f value?
front dial, actually right by the shutter button so quicker.
Nice video. For Astro, MF lenses are preferred.
Very true. But there are many astro shooters interested nevertheless :)
Interesting, it's a toss up between this and the Viltrox 13mm for me, so thanks for this review :-)
When is that 13mm gonna come out
@@Nightshade1881 Next month, November release, no specific date, yet.
No news from Viltrox yet.
Thanks Nicholas!
It’s another lens that is weather sealed but I’ve never been very convinced by the Fuji weather sealing when you look the lens mount, same here with the Samyang. I don’t see how metal lens mount on metal body mount is truly sealed, no matter the tolerances. My other system, Pentax, have a rubber gasket seal surrounding the lens mount and that compresses tight onto the body when mounted. Moisture doesn’t get past even in quite damp conditions (don’t remove the lens until dry! :))
I’ve had no trouble out walking around and shooting in steady rain and snow with that Pentax system but I’m not sure I’d trust the Samyang / Fuji weather resistant claims in the same conditions. The lens itself might resist moisture internally but the risk of water getting through the mount and into the sensor box is the main concern.
There is a gasket around the WR Fuji lenses....
There is no such thing as weather sealing on any consumer camera...unless you call the viton gasket or peace of sponge sealing.
@@eagleeyephoto8715 sorry, i used the wrong word weather resistant. Everything else I said remains relevant about potential was moisture ingress. I can’t see with a lens mount like this that there is much resistance to water Ingress at the mount. I’ve got the XF 18-55mm and it looks the same.
I’ve got more confidence with my Pentax K-1 and it’s lenses that have a gasket on the lens mount and for 5 years I’ve had no concerns walking around with it in rainy days. You don’t want to push your luck but even exposing it to humidity in tropical climates hasn’t been a problem (and sub zero temperatures). I literally take it out in any conditions and don’t give a thought
@@tomazvajngerl1321 not on my XF 18-55mm f2.8-4. I thought it was supposed to be WR but it isn’t labelled as such I suppose not. My XF 27mm does have the gasket.
@@shred3005 I owned Pentax for several years and nothing out there come close to WRv of Pentax.Having sad that Fujifilm lenses with WR are pretty much good when it comes to rubber sealing.Think 18-55 standard zoom has non of them and 16-50 and certainly 50'140 f2.8 is very good when it comes to invasive protection.The issues with moisture and humidity are mostly happening after camera usage in wet environment or hot 2 cold exposure, and this is most of the time caused by putting camera back in to the bag in stead of keeping it in dry environment for several hours or day's. By the way I had zero issues with Fujifilm WR lenses and body's over the years.
Purple fringe? Does the vignetting go away by f6, something? What's it like by f20?
I'll wait for Viltrox, for now.
Btw, I've seen you asking them.
Got the same response.
Could be delayed, since it's not out for 11.11. which is kind of a thing here.
Cheers from Shenzhen! XD
Um, forgot to ask about Fuji 10-24 mm vs new Samyang.
Ye I like to bug them whenever they pop up on my feed :D I have direct contact and it's pretty much the same response. I guess they change their plan for this year as it was supposed to be Q1, then it was supposed to be out after the cine lens range and now rumours are next month.
Haven't compared them properly but this is lighter and faster, better af for video while not flawless as you can see in the intro, and of course limited to 12mm.
AF third-party lens for x-mount is always a good news
Definitely
Your crop doesn't appear to be 16x9..what did you choose in camera for these? I was watching famous scenes from the astonishing Russian film, The Cranes Are Flying. There is so much moving camera ( from the old days) that keeps it's focus that I had to try to figure out how it was done. I'd say an equivalent lens on their 35mm camera kept at f8, plenty of light, and most importantly, the film format trims off distortion and maybe vignetting. Look up the montage on youtube. It's a worthy subject to talk about. You can tell many 60's television specials (dramas like Requiem For A Heavyweight) must have used wides that had the sides of the image cropped by the old television format. Really, a win win deal, and something to pursue in conversations about video.
Which bit? It's always 3x2 for stills or 16:9 for video. Unless I messed changed something?
And ye I shall check out this idea, thanks a lot!!
do you prefer this over the viltrox 13mm ?
It's a very popular question, I'm gonna put a video together about it due to demand 😅 as it stands I'm still using both.
No video autofocus test ?
Intro at 00:00 is with the lens in AF-C / face tracking.
Does this lens work on XT-200?
I haven't tried it, can't see why not though.
@@DamianBrown the product page does not mention xt200 as a compatible camera. Would be great if you can make a vlogging centric video using xt 200. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the review! Unfortunately, this lens is absolutely nowhere to be found for sale..
I was told this week that stock is expected 19th November
Great... I only just picked up a used Zeiss 12mm f/2.8 2 weeks ago. FML
Typical, usually happens to me.
this could be best vlog lens like RF16mm F2.8 for fujifilm user :)
Could well be!
Samyang should port all those tiny series lenses to Fuji X.
Agreed!
@@DamianBrown Came back to this video, the size and weight is a really good fit for Fuji.
Hey, any news on release date?
Just been told that stock is expected 19th November
@@DamianBrown Thank you so much Damian! Have nice day!
Vlog with X-S10 + 12mm
Good shout.
Is this lens available in the market yet?
It was only just officially announced yesterday so I guess not. Stores will probably take pre orders, then supply appears on the market. Maybe we'll hear when now.
@@DamianBrown thanks
Can the lens hood be reversed and stored on the lens?
It drives me mad that lens reviewers don't check this.
As it drives you mad I'm going to get mine now and try it. Feel free to subscribe in the meantime :D
Now I remember, no. I'll try to remember that next time but no you can't reverse it.
@@DamianBrown thanks for confirming!
Also, sorry to moan about this. It's just I store my lenses in my camera bag stacked vertically on top of each other, to save space. I think alot of small-bag photographers do this. This means having a reversible lens hood is very useful (otherwise where to store the hood?), so I always need to check for it
For example, the Fuji 35mm 1.4. great lens but very annoying hood to store in a small bag (as it can't be reversed).
@@attentionaddicts it's a good point! I haven't been doing it for a while so it slipped my mind though I do remember testing it when I first got it and found it was quite hard to remove. Seems to have loosened up now tho.
No mention of the lack of aperture ring?
2:08
@@DamianBrown Thanks! What I meant is that the aperture ring in the lens is a key part of the "Fuji appeal", and that getting rid of it makes this lens unappealing.
Great review! Hope you can do the comparison with Viltrox 13mm f1.4.
4:20 My soul just left my body💀
😂 ye it looks like I have to make that video
Make me jealous a bit, because I have a MF version of this lens. On the other side, for such focus length one don't really need to focus a lot. Just put it on infinity for everything, what more than two meters away!
You've got a classic, not a problem!
How about a high quality 15-50 smallish zoom lens with a metal body and weather sealing…by anyone …please.
Interesting!!
Any news of Sigma lens for fuji
No news anywhere yet... let's hope they have a plan, master or otherwise.
@@DamianBrown Hopefully a good plan. Rumour is that before 2021 Sigma will announce x series lenses but no solid info yet
Aahhgggg… I need it NOW. But not yet available :(
I think just pre order at the moment :(
@@DamianBrown not in Spain (big retailers and local shops). Hope we don’t wait too much 😅 Thanks for replying, Damian.
Screw all those AF Sony lenses. What I want is an AF version of their INSANE 135mm F2. Hands down Samyang's best lens, if they can make it under €800 I'd buy it day 1.
That would be special!
The link is for a Sony e mount lens not Fuji.
The exact link wasn't available, I'll adjust it
75mm please
Agreed!