Since he's supposed to be a cowboy "duelist" and his ultimate is supposed to replicate a "duel" of reflexes and speed, all they need to do is make his ultimate damage circle shrink double time against players who look directly at him. This way the concept of his fair dueling would make perfect sense and it would still be so easily counterable by hiding behind pretty much anything, but it would also feel useful and badass against those who dare duel you.
I just posted this on the official forums (with your credit) It's just too good of a solution to not post. us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752508540#detail
Twilight Cannon I tried that one myself but the hardcore fanboys still believe blizzard is doing their best and defend them to no end. You're just gonna end up being downvoted.
Not to mention it should pierce shields (Reinhardt, Symmetra, ect.), McCree's ult is too easily blocked, the only way to avoid it should be to: 1. Get the hell away or 2. Disrupt it Otherwise its just a throw away ability.
+spumwack for me he fun and I killed 4 people with deadeye and they had all the time in the world to run away so take that! lol am not trying to be mean btw
+blaster7 royal You can get good deadeye shots, it's just the good ones tend to be from a place that takes you out of the game for an extend period so you can get there. And he's the only offensive hero who has to do that, while also being the least mobile. I love playing McCree even with these faults, it is just you have to play him just right or not at all.
*Hiring people for Overwatch* Winston: So what can you bring to that table Mr. 76? Soldier: Well, I can throw down a magic canister that removes bullet wounds and heals anything, I can also shoot rockets from my gun with limited recoil, I can run infinitely, and use my badass sunglasses to shoot any target. McRee: Well I can roll
Genji got 4 nerfs: Ult time decreased from 8 to 6 seconds, no more animation canceling combo, dash actually activates traps, and no more triple jumping with walls. Really none of this affects most people and the ult nerf was just making him not broken. He could pop his ult and just wait out zenyatta..
People that learned how to animation cancel were effected. People that learned where you could get an advantage by triple jumping were effected. It's a sad time we live in where Blizzard will patch away certain tricks that'll separate stronger players from weaker players. Why don't we just remove all abilities and movement and have a true target practice game, since everything else are at some point going to get nerfed. tldr: fuck retards that wants patches
All they needed to nerf was the duration of Ganji's ultiamte. Thats it. Not a single person was annoyed about his mobility because it's what makes Genji, Genji. And then they buffed Hazno way too much. The only "buff" he needed was the Hitbox revert. But no they buffed his arrow speed movement speed when charging an arrow and now his hit boxes are way too fucking big *AGAIN*. Go onto the PTR every game has at least one Hanzo on every team because hes so fucking broken right now.
He's in such a bad state now because he use to be crazy powerful. He got nurfed in the old Blizzard fashion. "Oh, so and so is OP? Now we will make them the worse..." It's how Blizzard handles character balance in all of their games. They have never been good at it.
So, I know basically nothing about Overwatch. I somehow got here after looking up Matthew Mercer. But even though I know next to nothing, this video had me laughing so hard. "Not Mccree. Fuck that guy."
Ha ha. This video was hilarious. It can be very hard to complain about something without making the audience feel uncomfortable, but you've managed to walk that fine line with your sense of humor. Well done.
10 months later, it still. fucking. sucks. no change. still fucking trash 75% resistance while rolling is useless because NO ONE IS GONNA HIT YOU WHILE ROLLING
Everytime I see 5-6 skulls my chest starts beating because I still need *that fucking achievement* and for some fucking reason I only hit *1* person because well. Almost every fucking character can deal with his ult. Genji reflect/dash away/climb away Phara press E Tracer press shift/E or shift shift shift Q E. Reaper press shift Hanzo climb away Junkrat jump away Mei press shift or E Widow press shift Torbjorn hide behind sentry Dva right click Zarya press shift and E Winston press E Reinhardt right click Roadhog press shift mercy fly towards anyone out of mccree's line of sight lucio speed boost outta there Ana press shift Zeynyatta press Q (if you don't really care) Symmetra with her flying fucking Reinhard shield now Sombra just either Q or right click... Oh or shift. Oh or E... Good luck hitting those shots.
I find it funny that they did that and then the one thing he does well with, i.e his gun, they nerfed by making it tickle people at a moderate to longer range
To be fair, I'm pretty sure it's been said that McCree was designed with the idea of having a character using a revolver that feels amazing to use. So it's plausible that the revolver became the main focus of his design and his abilities suffered for it. Still doesn't excuse his abilities being so lackluster.
His kit isn't that bad tbh. Combat roll reloads your gun so there is plenty of utility with it also moving you a little bit, and that stun makes him one of the best duelists in the game. Fan the hammer is ass tho and high noon should really only be used as a free kill.
Well... Here we are, in a timeline where damage falloff begins at 20 meters, basically preventing you from taking any highground or cover, because most of actual fights happen somewhere in-between 20-30 meters.
Exactly that, his ult is why I stopped playing him even tho he was my favorite and most played, I'd have my ult up heading into a team fight and I wouldn't use it cause its suicide, you know.. so the opposite of what a hero's ultimate should be..
Itsactauallygaming face it his ult sux there are 2 tanks who's ult kills more people, more frequently, and one there is little to no risk involved. just make the dude not glow red while channeling, who else put a shoot me sign up when they ult?
agreed completely the thing with blizzard however, if you'll try to post that on their forums - you'll be downvoted straight to hell, since that community is worse then reddit
He deserved his nerfs. Overpowered gun is not ok because he has an ultimate that makes almost nothing. And now his gun is balanced. wich makes him as a hero underpowered because his ultimate is STILL worse then his normal left klicks.
Juho Saarenpää his fan the hammer deserved the nerf because he was doing a better job at dropping tanks than reaper, but I do agree they could fix the damage drop off slightly.
McCree's Ult is very situational and requires proper timing and strategic planning. Most other characters Ults are easier to utilize. McCree is almost the "All or nothing" Ult while other characters can get a few kills every time they press Q.
Yea but sometimes your teammates are distracting them from looking behind*pops ult* they randomly look behind because apparently they dont mind getting shot
Ive pulled of some team kill moments with his ult. its simple game logic, dont use it if there is a rhine with a shield or a dva, use it in area's where there are no corners to run around. And dont use it close range / with a pharah near by and sidestep as you do. Also helps to have a mei boost you up before you fire to dodge things :3 i love mecree
How about this: (WARNING: long read) McCree gets the Mercy treatment. Replace the roll with a "high noon" ability that locks on to the first person that the crosshairs are on. It's like the ultimate, except it charges slower, can only hit one person at a time, and you actually have to keep your crosshairs focused on the target to get the skull icon to appear. If your crosshairs are off of the target, it just pauses your progress on that target. If the target goes behind a wall or out of your sight, the ability is rendered useless. Whether or not you use it, it automatically reloads the six shooter, just like the roll does. 25 second cool-down. This could be the Pharmacy counter we've been waiting for. New ultimate: the ghost train. McCree calls down an electric net that tazes anyone 5m in front of him and knocks them over. Then, a train car drops behind him, bounces up over him, and rolls right through the netted victims, resulting in 300 damage each.
"Lets give all the hero's a set of ability's that make them fun to play,But no mccree , F#%K That Guy, Just give him a gun". By that part i was wetting myself with laughter.. 11/10 man.. Keep up the great content.
last time I got a quadruple kill with mcree's ultimate...but that was just pure luck! Now every time I use his ultimate I either get no kills or just one kill!
route 66, as they were about to enter the 2nd checkpoint, i went above them from behind, quad kill could of had 5 but their genji hid behind the payload just in time, its all about positioning.
I've actually recently started playing Widow. I can attest to his Ulting face being the easiest shot in the game to make. xD I've only missed once, and I'm a support main. So yeah. Mccree. Fuck that guy. ;D
I agree with every single statement in this video, I've spent fucking 4 days playing McCree straight just for his 'It's High Noon' achievement which is a pain in the ass to attempt to accomplish. I even boosted McCree from 4 hours to 36 HOURS!!!
i joined a competitive game, and almost everyone on my team left. the enemy team let me just grind up achievements, i got the floor is lava, Zen's pixel spray, and Mcree's high noon
It took me playing him 3 days straight. All my friends told me that I couldn't do it. Woke up one morning got on lijiang and got my quad on control center. Still the best thing I've done with my life.
I play mccree a lot. I have about a 75% win rate with him in competitive (rank 57 or so) and I still find his kit to be super underwhelming...his gun is op as fuck if you have good aim, but that's it. bad aim? bad day
Yeah, fuck that guy. Jokes aside, his ult is underwhelming. Only really used it for zoning, or picking off maybe 1 person before they got behind Reinhardt/D,va shield. Now that you have to charge it back from 0% even if you hit nobody is just.... Sad. If only you could at least force an ultimate from the other team, but nope...
RoboticTea you guys must suck with him I play on xbox one and I get a lot play of the games with over 4 kills you just need to take the tanks out and let your team distact then go from behind
exactly people in these comments saying your so right great points are just bad as mcree which is understandable I'm the only one out of all my friends who can play him he's a lot like genji in there's a lot of people who think they can play him but very few who can do well
Well you play on xbox one so you have a litteral aimbot so your argument isn't really valid and also i main mccree I have 22hours with him but still Spumwack is correct what he said happens to me alot and it's frustrating.
He's also getting nerfed so that he uses up the entire ult even if he cancels it or dies. Everyone can keep a percentage of their ult. But not McCree. Fuck that guy.
No, he's getting put onto the same ult depletion as everyone else. They're moving McCree from a drop to 50 (which allowed for easy canceling for area denial with the ult) to a .25 second drop AND changing every hero's ult meter to fall in .25 seconds instead of 1 second as well. No one will be keeping much ult charge if they die mid-use. Honestly the idea that McCree is any way, shape or form the 'worst' offense is somewhat ludicrous, especially if we're looking at ults. Pharah's ult is basically a giant "Gank me now" button and Soldier's is just an aimbot that can't do anything being very good wouldn't already do. Reaper's is like Pharah's in leaving a user very open and Tracer's is one of the most underwhelming in the game, if somewhat practical to use. The only offense ult that's hands down better than Dead Eye is Genji's and that's getting nerfed. If McCree has fewer ult kills, it's because a lot of what his ult is used for is controlling space, making people move away rather than getting kills (rather than deciding to use it while a railing's between you and everyone you're trying to shoot). In the competitive scene, Pharah and Soldier 76 have been essentially unused recently (though the Zeny nerf may help Pharah rise up) while McCree, Tracer, Genji and Reaper have popped up comparably often in recent matches. Notably, going by match type, McCree (with his current pre-PTR kit) is played more than any other offense hero on both offense and defense, losing out in absolute frequency largely due to the fact that King of the Hill is the most common map in recent data sets.
He kind of did address this with him saying how McCree's gun was OP. Hence why he is used in competitive Overwatch. I understand him saying McCree's Q is the worst because it has no immediate payoff like most of the hero's with damage coming out immediately like with Pharah or Reaper, despite the lack of movement from the hero. And while Tracer does have a similar delay, she has a near guarantee of at least 1 person if she can stick her bomb. I am in no way saying McCree isn't extremely strong, but his ultimate is the least fun to use and doesn't do much besides controlling space, and he is easily killed and has no escapes while Q-ing. For your counterpoints on the other hero' s Q's. Pharah's and Genji's have some sort of payoff when you use them. Even if you are killed, some damage has come out. Soldier 76's Q is not as useful for better players but it makes it so you can't miss at all (even at 90% acc you are still missing shots) and there is no recoil or bullet spread on the gun so it is still useful for better players in that sense. Tracer's Q is very underwhelming, but at a very low cost to herself due to her consistently high mobility and that using her Q causes no additional risk than if she had emptied her pistols. McCree is definitely strong but, his ult is terrible considering what danger he puts himself in for little to no payoff.
here's what I say, make it so the only way to avoid his ult is by taking cover inside or by killing him first, that means nothing can avoid it, no barriers, no zarya shields, nothing. he's already vulnerable when using his ult an charging, why make it so half the roster can deny his ult with sleep darts, ice walls, barriers, and worse?
then it's even worse, sure it charges fast with 200 health every 1.18 seconds meaning in less than 4 seconds roadhog can be taken down and the time only gets faster the more damaged the enemy team is. his ult is meant to be used to take down weaker enemies in a short amount of time while they're distracted by his teammates yet people normally go in solo and try to flank full health enemies or everyone just blocks it or hides. He either needs his old ult charge back, or give him the ability to ignore defense matrix, barriers, and bubble shields with his ultimate.
they honestly gotta stop touching mccree. the mccree players won't stop playing mccree cause his guns fucking awesome, but they keep trying to balance him anyways. not that he even needs to be balanced in the first place, he's in line with soldier, the other alternative to a high damage ranged character.
+Kana Fukakami Hanzo is definitely gonna be viable in this upcoming patch. The use of widow isn't mccree's fault, because they added a damage drop-off that means a good widow wins on long range engagements. It's not that mccree is strong, it's that widow was nerfed a lot. Her pick rate is down because another character is just a straight up "better pick" than widow. Soldiers pick rate is actually higher than mccree, because his potential damage output and range is higher than mccree. Soldier also just has a better kit, with sprinting being basically a limited lucio speedbuff (he can't shoot while doing it, so that's why it's less effective than just a lucio) he has a pretty good self heal, and helix rockets take his ttk to about half on normal hp heroes.
I used to get so pissed off at flashbang fan the hammer, still do because some people use it once then sit in a corner and wait for it again, but this video makes me sorry for McRee players who play him skillfully
Or... You know, make his ult better. Its PTR iteration is about as bad as DVA's ult pre-buff. Practically a liability to even use it. All it's good for is zoning out the enemy team.
has the concept of sarcasm never crossed your mind? "I bet he never thought of that" Even in text form, that is the most obvious example of sarcasm I can imagine.
Xavier No, I didn't. I will admit that. Not everybody can understand sarcasm in text as even in its most basic form, it's not easy without the use of visual cues or tone. Now, why must you point this out towards somebody who made a honest mistake in a condescending manner?..
Junk rats ult also loses full charge if you die while deploying it, even if the tire itself isn’t destroyed it dies anyway, but at least when you deploy the riptire successfully you can kill up to 6 guys.
also, you dont necessarily need to get kills for his ult to be good. Use it as a scare tactic. Ive won plenty of king of the hill games like that. Pop your ult, enemy team hides, overtime counter ticks down, by the time they come out, too late.
pandulce an ultimate shouldn't need another ult on top of it to get kills mcrees ultimate should definitely be changed some how I think it should shoot quicker after u click or just have better tracking
U can use it on it's own you just need to get good timing and a good position I've had loads of times on maps like volskaya where my teams failing to push and I go round the back high noon and get at least three kills
And to top it all off. 6 years later in the games sequel, they give the guy a pop gun with dmg fall off that loses to his cowgirls counterpart AND give him a shitty grenade that can't track.... 💀💀
Well the problem is his kit sucks so they try to buff him by buffing his gun. This of course makes up for his bad kit but makes him too strong in general.
Plzbanme I guess that's the problem with making revolvers a viable option for fighting against LMGs and the like. If you changed the accuracy, it wouldn't be a revolver. I wonder what he would've been like if they lowered the cooldown on his combat roll or flash bang...
No they are not nerfing him, they are making it impossible for people to play, i mean like if you wanted a easy mushy kill Roadhog is the better choice with the same exact play style, except way better then McCree, seriously no point even trying to play McCree when you have Roadhog,Roadhog can tank bullets down, can crouch camp, has further range, and can heal.
I agree with the fact his deley shouldn't happen buit if you're flanking and going for kills you're using his ult wrong. Use it as a zonign tool, to distract a push or force enemies into hiding, or towards your dps's. But flash and roll are also pretty balanced.
Besides, building up that ult for a minute or two just to make people hide for 6-7 seconds without any other repercussion is pretty damn depressing, hes an offense hero afterall.
What timberwolf said lol. It shouldn't be used that way. It's only used that way because it's a trash ult to begin with and pros were forced to think of SOME kind of use for it. You know you can force people to hide with Soldier's ult too lol
+Luis “Luxis” Burgos I think of Tactical Visor as the better Deadeye. Up fast, do damage even if you don't kill, force people to hide, have manual control to prioritize targets.
Except they don't balance vs overall player win rate, as it would destroy the competitive scene, McCree has a very high pick and win rate in competitive, he's consistently picked above any of the other DPS actually. Many of the examples you used there, like shooting a railing are just player error. His left click is amazing and can 2 shot non tank heros at range. He's in really good shape.
That was what he was complaining about. Literally the only good thing about him is his left click, and everything else conflicts with it. It makes him feel like a walking left click because using any of his other abilities would probably just get you killed or do nothing at all.
The video was very clear that McCree's gun is the only reason he's awesome and the argument was that his whole kit is built for a different style of character, but that his gun is so fucking awesome that none of it matters when people can aim. It also doesn't change that Blizzard seems to hate McCree. So I don't get why you posted what you posted.
+Ferc Polo i dont get wy you commented... hes right, mccree is almost overpowered in the competitive scène, yes he is higher skillcapped then heroes like reaper and soldier thanks to the aim that is needed with mccree, complaining about his abilities? he has an INSTANT RELOADING ability that goes togheter with a character with one of the highest dps + a right click burst? that kit is awesome and very strong in the right hands, hard to land hits on moving targets? well just stun them... stunning is an incredible ability in a game that is all about movement... people are complaining about one of the best designed characters on this game... if you want to complaining then complaining about hanzo... because fuck that guy
I don't get why you commented. Hes right, mcree is pretty good in the competitive scene but has a kit that you barely use. His left click is the only useful ability he has and the rest are either only situationally useful or not useful at all. None of that matters though because his left click is so powerful it doesn't matter that the rest of his kit is garbage. He has a high skill cap because he is basically a sniper without a scope. He has a right click that you literally never use because it is more efficient to left click. He has a flashbang that you never use because you are too far away left clicking. He has an instant reload that is only used so that he can start left clicking again without having to wait for the reload animation. He has the weakest ult in the game except for maybe hanzo so you usually don't use it because it is more efficient to left click. This is the problem with mceee. It isn't that he is bad, its just that his kit is incredibly lopsided and most likely unfixable without a complete rework of his abilities.
okay but Mccree's ultimate is incredibly powerful, you can't just implement a move that will instantly kill any visible heroes without granting player fair warning and giving them time to escape. Like it probably has the lowest kill rating because it is designed to be counterable but also have extreme potential. can you imagine how OP his Ult would be without these implications. If he could be completely undetected, lock on quickly and ensure death of every skull, singl handed team kills would be garunteed every game.
@@sideeswipe I disagree, for being my main there is nothing wrong with my boi mccree. Gotta be smart with the ult, I got 4 kills with it in multiple games
Sergeant Human Ya I love mccree too but that doesn't change the fact it's one of the worst ults in the game. Sure it's not as bad as it used to be but that isn't saying much, I can get mass kills out of his ult too but I have to get on high ground, hit around a corner, and then use my ult and hope I don't get spotted. That's way too much time wasted for an ult, something that is supposed to be possibly game changing just by activating it. And the fact that he glows and says it's high noon doesn't help cause it gives the entire team an indication to run away, while DVA and hanzos ult barely give you any time to escape and are much more devastating
@@sideeswipe that's the cost of an insta lock on that gives a lot of damage, perfect for junkenstiens revenge. I know u don't feel it is balenced, but the buffs they gave it made it balenced to me
dont know if youre saying thats good or bad but its definitely inconsistent with the rest of the game because blizzard has said this game 'favors the shooter'.... except mccree fk that guy
every hero favors the shooter except mccree, you play pharah and shoot a concussive blast at mei just as she ice blocks she will go flying... throw a flashbang at her just before she ice blocks and it does nothing
As a Mccree main, 40+ hrs, I can safely say mccree needs some work to his ultimate. 1. No delay after I click God dammit 2. Increase roll distance 3. Decrease left click damage and increase right click, not by much just feels underwhelming 4. Ult goes down like others, maybe 1/4 per second so I can safely cancel 5. Lock on time buffed.
As a McCree main i agree with the most things. But not with the left / right click thing. It should be worth using leftclick alot more then right click because it requires more skill.
Actually mccree's ult charges the fastest in 6 offense heroes as he can pop heads from mid range and deal massive damage (140 per shot jeez), i can totally understand the ult energy drain nerf... And since he starts locking ppl and spend energy immediately after clicking ult, it requires more positioning and planning rather than genji or s76's ult which gives one second of "time for regret", or reaper/pharah's instant damage dealing ults. It's good to have a hero who does not simply press Q for ez kill/POTG, and it kinda balances out the OP revolver he had (and it is not as op today as it has been, we used to have 70 dmg fan-the-hammer shots remember?)
From my experience I've been able to 3-4 tap most heroes (bar tanks) from nearly any range. Most of the maps aren't long range anyway so he can easily 3 tap.
His fan the hammer used to do like 420 damage for one. Tanks weren't even in the meta because McCree would just Flash, fan, roll, (fan again). That's pretty much it. They updated his damage fall off distance recently so he's better at range.
Cromakoth ... "McCree's ultimate on its own is terrible, mostly because EVERYONE has some kind of way to effectively avoid it. A single tank, Genji or Mei in particular can just run up to the McCree, activate their block/reflect/shield ability and completely nullify his ultimate" All you have to do is replace McCree with Pharah, Reaper etc - no it's not like they can block these ults too y'know, that's nonsense! And no, there's a reason why in 65-70+ there's always a McCree around. Because his entire kit is useful and he is the most reliable out of all assault heroes.
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And now Sombra can hack Mccree's ult although it doesn't require technology...unlike Soldier's. Which she can't hack. Fuck that guy.
TheDarksoul01 WAIT WHAT? HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT WORK?
don't forget sombra's hack being able to stop soldier:76 to run and mccree from being able to roll.
His arm is robotic though...
LiamFVJ
He still can shoot normally while hacked though...
So can McCree.
As a mccree main I hope you all understand my pain now
oh oh oh im fine with all pain except the FUCKING DELAY BETWEEN CLICK AND HIT
OMG I KNOW IT IS THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO OVERWATCH
Except for Bastion. Fuck that guy.
im a mccree main and i feels it all...no cool sht just left click gud to win
Liz same
Deadeye, more like Dead I.
Mr_spoon good one. How about dead? Aye.
Mr_spoon ok that was good
He said the most recent state of affairs was a little slow
Deadeye more like I dead
Or... "Dead?""Aye"
Since he's supposed to be a cowboy "duelist" and his ultimate is supposed to replicate a "duel" of reflexes and speed, all they need to do is make his ultimate damage circle shrink double time against players who look directly at him. This way the concept of his fair dueling would make perfect sense and it would still be so easily counterable by hiding behind pretty much anything, but it would also feel useful and badass against those who dare duel you.
THIS HERE IS GENIUS
This would be too balanced for Overwatch. I think if you would tell this to Blizzard they wouldn't understand a single word.
I just posted this on the official forums (with your credit)
It's just too good of a solution to not post.
us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752508540#detail
Twilight Cannon I tried that one myself but the hardcore fanboys still believe blizzard is doing their best and defend them to no end. You're just gonna end up being downvoted.
Not to mention it should pierce shields (Reinhardt, Symmetra, ect.), McCree's ult is too easily blocked, the only way to avoid it should be to:
1. Get the hell away
or
2. Disrupt it
Otherwise its just a throw away ability.
Of course Blizzard patches some of this stuff an hour after the video is posted. Fuck me
Nevermind, they made it worse. lol
+spumwack lmaoo hahah this is brilliant, your amazing content keeps surprising me spum! keep it up! I turned on notifications :)
+spumwack for me he fun and I killed 4 people with deadeye and they had all the time in the world to run away so take that! lol am not trying to be mean btw
+blaster7 royal You can get good deadeye shots, it's just the good ones tend to be from a place that takes you out of the game for an extend period so you can get there. And he's the only offensive hero who has to do that, while also being the least mobile.
I love playing McCree even with these faults, it is just you have to play him just right or not at all.
+AcceptTheNull alright man I just love him and am good with him :)
Players: Reinhardt's ultimate is kind of broken.
Blizzard: Time to nerf McCree again.
Mason Lee lol
Lmao 🤣 funniest shit
You don't even retain 50% anymore. The nano second you press Q it's all gone
Funnily enough they're actually nerfing the charge on his ult now so that when you use it, it drops to 0% after 0.25 seconds...
Pretty sure it depletes by 1 charge every 0.25 seconds
+ItzzGaming wait. so it drops 4 percent in a second instead of 100 in 0.25sec ?
+ozgur toplar i think so. Haven't tested it myself.
ozgur toplar nevermind. it 100% depletes in 0.25 seconds.
ItzzGaming ye i thought so
Fk the ult, we all love the sound "Is high noon!!!"
in russian its "revenge time" lmao
In Spanish it's "It's time for the truth...", I really like it, sounds like some kind of badass justicier, wich he is lol
Alice in French it’s: “any last will?” That would be so badass if he actually said it this way
Yacine HOSNI Ohhh that's actually really cool dude :O.
It's*
And now it goes down to 0% not 50% 😂😂
In the ptr. Possible to be scrapped.
Well f*ck that guy.
No it just drains like everyones ult
There is a good reason for that tho... but mister seem not to have read why they did that.
+Starscream but his ult is weaker than everyone else
"Damn! That insta kill hurt."
cyp better put up my fucking shield.
5 years later and blizzard still periodically says "fuck that guy"
Everyone gets to have a memorable name. But not McCree. Fuck that guy!
*Hiring people for Overwatch*
Winston: So what can you bring to that table Mr. 76?
Soldier: Well, I can throw down a magic canister that removes bullet wounds and heals anything, I can also shoot rockets from my gun with limited recoil, I can run infinitely, and use my badass sunglasses to shoot any target.
McRee: Well I can roll
Pootz Did you really mean to say that? McRee? Pepes how dare you turn the lord's name into a meme , yes you . fuck that guy . I mean fuck you
😂
Roll and reload all my bullets meaning if you pull it off you can easily save yourself
Pootz you win this round
This cracked me up
Genji gets to keep every single ability plus a gaint fucking sword, mccree becomes a glowing stationary target and doesn't even get kills that often.
Aren't they nerfing Genji in the PTR too? My friend lives on Genji and now he's legitimately getting punished for learning his character.
Genji got 4 nerfs: Ult time decreased from 8 to 6 seconds, no more animation canceling combo, dash actually activates traps, and no more triple jumping with walls. Really none of this affects most people and the ult nerf was just making him not broken.
He could pop his ult and just wait out zenyatta..
People that learned how to animation cancel were effected. People that learned where you could get an advantage by triple jumping were effected. It's a sad time we live in where Blizzard will patch away certain tricks that'll separate stronger players from weaker players. Why don't we just remove all abilities and movement and have a true target practice game, since everything else are at some point going to get nerfed.
tldr: fuck retards that wants patches
All they needed to nerf was the duration of Ganji's ultiamte. Thats it. Not a single person was annoyed about his mobility because it's what makes Genji, Genji.
And then they buffed Hazno way too much. The only "buff" he needed was the Hitbox revert. But no they buffed his arrow speed movement speed when charging an arrow and now his hit boxes are way too fucking big *AGAIN*. Go onto the PTR every game has at least one Hanzo on every team because hes so fucking broken right now.
but if you compare their weapons genji looses by a lot.
He's in such a bad state now because he use to be crazy powerful. He got nurfed in the old Blizzard fashion. "Oh, so and so is OP? Now we will make them the worse..." It's how Blizzard handles character balance in all of their games. They have never been good at it.
kevinfet basically, just complain enough and any hero in the game can be made unplayable
Roadhog and Doomfist - (Maybe Hanzo soon)
delet hanzo
+Justin
Except Paladins
SioxerNiki That's not blizzard?
So, I know basically nothing about Overwatch. I somehow got here after looking up Matthew Mercer. But even though I know next to nothing, this video had me laughing so hard. "Not Mccree. Fuck that guy."
Oh god. Matthew Mercer. Fuck that guy
spumwack
Angel Ford he is his voice actor tho that guy is great
Matthew Mercer. One of the most talented dedicated and overall swell guys I know.
Angel Ford Mathew mercer is McCree's voice actor, so that's how you got here.
Ha ha. This video was hilarious. It can be very hard to complain about something without making the audience feel uncomfortable, but you've managed to walk that fine line with your sense of humor. Well done.
Agreed i could listen to complaining like this all day :)
I actually laughed out loud, usually I either internal laugh or at most let out a short breath of hah. This dudes funny.
6 years later McCree is even worst now. His ult takes even longer. His flashbang is gone.
10 months later, it still.
fucking.
sucks.
no change. still fucking trash
75% resistance while rolling is useless because NO ONE IS GONNA HIT YOU WHILE ROLLING
It’s now back but only slows enemies instead being an actual stun
"But not McCree..."
Seven times exactly...
"Fuck that guy"
"Just give him a gun"
mcree rework
-gun is instakill
-can shoot through wall
-flashbang is remote controled
-alt fire is a bastion minigun
Brandon Renard Sounds underpowered need more reworking
Everytime I see 5-6 skulls my chest starts beating because I still need *that fucking achievement* and for some fucking reason I only hit *1* person because well. Almost every fucking character can deal with his ult.
Genji reflect/dash away/climb away
Phara press E
Tracer press shift/E or shift shift shift Q E.
Reaper press shift
Hanzo climb away
Junkrat jump away
Mei press shift or E
Widow press shift
Torbjorn hide behind sentry
Dva right click
Zarya press shift and E
Winston press E
Reinhardt right click
Roadhog press shift
mercy fly towards anyone out of mccree's line of sight
lucio speed boost outta there
Ana press shift
Zeynyatta press Q (if you don't really care)
Symmetra with her flying fucking Reinhard shield now
Sombra just either Q or right click... Oh or shift. Oh or E...
Good luck hitting those shots.
the only ones there that don't work are Pharah and Hanzo's, other than that, all good
actually as hanzo main... i have scaped a lot of mc ults by climbing walls... but u wont have a small wall always near u so... 50/50
basically all strategies to hide from all ultimates -_-
Milbox R Nah most only work for McCree.
MCruben3k I dont feel like going through ALL characters, but there are other ways that people can hide from other ultimates
McCree? Fuck tha... oh I can't say that anymore. McCree just got a buff
Cman8172 do u call that a buff ?
SHICAKU00 yeah because he is balanced now and only people who are still gold think he's still bad
Years later. Still applies.
blizzard made it even worse. Now your charge goes directly to 0 before even the voice line finishes....
Jr. Jackrabbit this was months ago... so how did you get that much likes?
Actually, it goes to zero in the very moment you press it, before the voice line starts.
I find it funny that they did that and then the one thing he does well with, i.e his gun, they nerfed by making it tickle people at a moderate to longer range
As of August 2021, Blizzard now has a very different problem with McCree.
Just sitting here with my head sunk into my neck as a McCree main
To be fair, I'm pretty sure it's been said that McCree was designed with the idea of having a character using a revolver that feels amazing to use. So it's plausible that the revolver became the main focus of his design and his abilities suffered for it. Still doesn't excuse his abilities being so lackluster.
His kit isn't that bad tbh. Combat roll reloads your gun so there is plenty of utility with it also moving you a little bit, and that stun makes him one of the best duelists in the game. Fan the hammer is ass tho and high noon should really only be used as a free kill.
Joel Harley yeah i get people saying oh mccrees ult is for zoning okay but on a fucking dps character like wtf
yo but mccree is pretty hot....
ヽ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ﾉ fuck that guy
stangnan dash ;D XD
stangnan dash
I SHIP IT!!! I SHIP IT ALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!
*_you forgot to say no homo_*
Lol
I got a buff finaly!
Finally
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@@moversti92 damn fool wtf , its been ages
DEADEYE BUFFED
Well... Here we are, in a timeline where damage falloff begins at 20 meters, basically preventing you from taking any highground or cover, because most of actual fights happen somewhere in-between 20-30 meters.
I just want a McCree ult that is usable without luck and being behind action. Something that isn't a press Q to commit suicide.
Exactly that, his ult is why I stopped playing him even tho he was my favorite and most played, I'd have my ult up heading into a team fight and I wouldn't use it cause its suicide, you know.. so the opposite of what a hero's ultimate should be..
he does have one your just bad at it it requires a little thing called teamwork and being good
Itsactauallygaming face it his ult sux there are 2 tanks who's ult kills more people, more frequently, and one there is little to no risk involved. just make the dude not glow red while channeling, who else put a shoot me sign up when they ult?
ROY IS OUR BOY
so fackin true
agreed completely
the thing with blizzard however, if you'll try to post that on their forums - you'll be downvoted straight to hell, since that community is worse then reddit
Posted this on reddit wish me luck
idk, there are alot of threads out there saying he's poorly Designed
Yeah the blizzard forums are the breeding grounds for oblivious casual gamers its very painful reading the comments.
This is one of those videos that I will occasionally come back and watch
This got me thinking, McCree didn't really deserve that one big nerf back then
Juho Saarenpää. Nah man. Dude could out-snipe widow with a left click. He could burst down rein in a single combo. He was stupid OP.
+kingmark210 yes but the fact that he could e right click shift right click and even kill roadhog at medium range was absurd
Nope, it isn't even comparable to McCree back in the day.
He deserved his nerfs. Overpowered gun is not ok because he has an ultimate that makes almost nothing. And now his gun is balanced. wich makes him as a hero underpowered because his ultimate is STILL worse then his normal left klicks.
Juho Saarenpää his fan the hammer deserved the nerf because he was doing a better job at dropping tanks than reaper, but I do agree they could fix the damage drop off slightly.
McCree's Ult is very situational and requires proper timing and strategic planning. Most other characters Ults are easier to utilize. McCree is almost the "All or nothing" Ult while other characters can get a few kills every time they press Q.
all or nothing more like 1-3 or nothing, probably nothing though
Yea but sometimes your teammates are distracting them from looking behind*pops ult* they randomly look behind because apparently they dont mind getting shot
Ive pulled of some team kill moments with his ult. its simple game logic, dont use it if there is a rhine with a shield or a dva, use it in area's where there are no corners to run around. And dont use it close range / with a pharah near by and sidestep as you do. Also helps to have a mei boost you up before you fire to dodge things :3 i love mecree
So just dont use it 90% of the time? when every other hero ult is good right when they get it?
Literal worst advice ever. That's basically saying, "Don't use McCree's ULT 99.5% of the time, but that 0.5% you can get 1-2 kills. You're welcome"
I agree that mcree needs a new ultimate
desperado: gives him another gun
or maybe just stop ruining it
u know stop putting a delay when shooting
How about this: (WARNING: long read)
McCree gets the Mercy treatment. Replace the roll with a "high noon" ability that locks on to the first person that the crosshairs are on. It's like the ultimate, except it charges slower, can only hit one person at a time, and you actually have to keep your crosshairs focused on the target to get the skull icon to appear. If your crosshairs are off of the target, it just pauses your progress on that target. If the target goes behind a wall or out of your sight, the ability is rendered useless. Whether or not you use it, it automatically reloads the six shooter, just like the roll does. 25 second cool-down. This could be the Pharmacy counter we've been waiting for.
New ultimate: the ghost train. McCree calls down an electric net that tazes anyone 5m in front of him and knocks them over. Then, a train car drops behind him, bounces up over him, and rolls right through the netted victims, resulting in 300 damage each.
They already buffed his ult since this video was made, its alright now.
Yeah but keep the high noon line
"Lets give all the hero's a set of ability's that make them fun to play,But no mccree , F#%K That Guy, Just give him a gun".
By that part i was wetting myself with laughter.. 11/10 man.. Keep up the great content.
soldier 76...
+Milbox R fuck that guy.
soldier 76 has a noob tube and healing field too
Potaishee soldier 76 has a noobtube but junkrat is a noobtuber
junkrat is demoman 2.0 dont insult my mate like that
and NOW they fucking nerf it so now your ult is completely useless now
Yup... It's like blizzard want Pharah to dominate the meta, with the Zen nerf, and the mercy buff. Pharah will be everywhere.
+Clorox Bleach
nah #HanzoApocalypse
+Clorox Bleach i saw you in every single youtube video ever
But they buffed 76
IKR the devs complaining that mccree has his ult up way too often... and still not killing anyone
They hate him so much they changed his name to Cassidy
I also hate the nerf where it use to be that if your dead eye got cancelled or obscured it would reset to 50% but now it goes down to 0%
Jinji it was great for zoning areas off
last time I got a quadruple kill with mcree's ultimate...but that was just pure luck! Now every time I use his ultimate I either get no kills or just one kill!
Use your brain, why stand in front of em and use your ult, stand behind be sneaky and creative, and when I do this I always get quad or more
route 66, as they were about to enter the 2nd checkpoint, i went above them from behind, quad kill could of had 5 but their genji hid behind the payload just in time, its all about positioning.
you can't really hear footsteps in the midst of a huge fight
PsychoNaj That almost never works for me, either someone notices and blocks me or someones behind me and kills me
Noob I got pentakill and kill another one with primary attack
Honestly my favorite video on RUclips. I'll always come back to this.
Again
Again
"its High noon!"... when i play Hanzo its like he scream "Shoot me in my Head!"
Fuck you for playing hanzo
kk np
Fuck you for thinking Hanzo is an illegitimate character
I've actually recently started playing Widow. I can attest to his Ulting face being the easiest shot in the game to make. xD I've only missed once, and I'm a support main. So yeah. Mccree. Fuck that guy. ;D
This is probably the best Overwatch video.
*2 years later*
McCree got shooting speed buff
spumwack: Lmao wot
I'm going to continue to tweet this at overwatch until they respond
I agree with every single statement in this video, I've spent fucking 4 days playing McCree straight just for his 'It's High Noon' achievement which is a pain in the ass to attempt to accomplish. I even boosted McCree from 4 hours to 36 HOURS!!!
Tried doing somewhat the same. Got like 20 triples and not a single fucking quad
i joined a competitive game, and almost everyone on my team left. the enemy team let me just grind up achievements, i got the floor is lava, Zen's pixel spray, and Mcree's high noon
+winnie lucky
This is too true, i did the exact same thing and now have like 24 hours on mcree
It took me playing him 3 days straight. All my friends told me that I couldn't do it. Woke up one morning got on lijiang and got my quad on control center. Still the best thing I've done with my life.
Came back after the name change. Goddamm brilliant
Mcrees ult is like when he says its hight NOON blizzard takes his revolver and gives him a nerf
I play mccree a lot. I have about a 75% win rate with him in competitive (rank 57 or so) and I still find his kit to be super underwhelming...his gun is op as fuck if you have good aim, but that's it. bad aim? bad day
Yeah, fuck that guy.
Jokes aside, his ult is underwhelming. Only really used it for zoning, or picking off maybe 1 person before they got behind Reinhardt/D,va shield. Now that you have to charge it back from 0% even if you hit nobody is just.... Sad. If only you could at least force an ultimate from the other team, but nope...
Pfft not just that why play McCree when you got Roadhog
+poketdoom because some of our parents love us
"bad aim? bad day"
That's how it should always be...
Neurix 76 Winston symmetra
"Not McRee. Fuck that guy. Just give him a gun" X)
Fucking send this video to blizzard.
RoboticTea you guys must suck with him I play on xbox one and I get a lot play of the games with over 4 kills you just need to take the tanks out and let your team distact then go from behind
exactly people in these comments saying your so right great points are just bad as mcree which is understandable I'm the only one out of all my friends who can play him he's a lot like genji in there's a lot of people who think they can play him but very few who can do well
Well you play on xbox one so you have a litteral aimbot so your argument isn't really valid and also i main mccree I have 22hours with him but still Spumwack is correct what he said happens to me alot and it's frustrating.
RoboticTea lol are you sure about that I played him for 39 hours
players on console get aim assist, correct?
I need to watch you more, you're providing me with high noon spots I never thought possible.
He's also getting nerfed so that he uses up the entire ult even if he cancels it or dies. Everyone can keep a percentage of their ult. But not McCree. Fuck that guy.
No, he's getting put onto the same ult depletion as everyone else. They're moving McCree from a drop to 50 (which allowed for easy canceling for area denial with the ult) to a .25 second drop AND changing every hero's ult meter to fall in .25 seconds instead of 1 second as well. No one will be keeping much ult charge if they die mid-use.
Honestly the idea that McCree is any way, shape or form the 'worst' offense is somewhat ludicrous, especially if we're looking at ults. Pharah's ult is basically a giant "Gank me now" button and Soldier's is just an aimbot that can't do anything being very good wouldn't already do. Reaper's is like Pharah's in leaving a user very open and Tracer's is one of the most underwhelming in the game, if somewhat practical to use. The only offense ult that's hands down better than Dead Eye is Genji's and that's getting nerfed. If McCree has fewer ult kills, it's because a lot of what his ult is used for is controlling space, making people move away rather than getting kills (rather than deciding to use it while a railing's between you and everyone you're trying to shoot).
In the competitive scene, Pharah and Soldier 76 have been essentially unused recently (though the Zeny nerf may help Pharah rise up) while McCree, Tracer, Genji and Reaper have popped up comparably often in recent matches. Notably, going by match type, McCree (with his current pre-PTR kit) is played more than any other offense hero on both offense and defense, losing out in absolute frequency largely due to the fact that King of the Hill is the most common map in recent data sets.
He kind of did address this with him saying how McCree's gun was OP. Hence why he is used in competitive Overwatch. I understand him saying McCree's Q is the worst because it has no immediate payoff like most of the hero's with damage coming out immediately like with Pharah or Reaper, despite the lack of movement from the hero. And while Tracer does have a similar delay, she has a near guarantee of at least 1 person if she can stick her bomb. I am in no way saying McCree isn't extremely strong, but his ultimate is the least fun to use and doesn't do much besides controlling space, and he is easily killed and has no escapes while Q-ing.
For your counterpoints on the other hero' s Q's. Pharah's and Genji's have some sort of payoff when you use them. Even if you are killed, some damage has come out. Soldier 76's Q is not as useful for better players but it makes it so you can't miss at all (even at 90% acc you are still missing shots) and there is no recoil or bullet spread on the gun so it is still useful for better players in that sense. Tracer's Q is very underwhelming, but at a very low cost to herself due to her consistently high mobility and that using her Q causes no additional risk than if she had emptied her pistols.
McCree is definitely strong but, his ult is terrible considering what danger he puts himself in for little to no payoff.
Man predicted the future lol
when I use deadeye it always uses 100% of the ultimate
Animalboy99NL its because it was nerfed after this video was posted now if you use it and die it will take 100% so mcree is useless
Mccree useless ?
That's one of the Top Tier hero ...
Lackari i mean the mcree ult is useless not the mcree himself
Oh yes, it only work with good teammate and wombo combo with mei or zaryah.
good luck finding good teammates in comptetitive elo hell
here's what I say, make it so the only way to avoid his ult is by taking cover inside or by killing him first, that means nothing can avoid it, no barriers, no zarya shields, nothing. he's already vulnerable when using his ult an charging, why make it so half the roster can deny his ult with sleep darts, ice walls, barriers, and worse?
Actually, almost every hero can counter or avoid High Noon.
Genji: Reflect/Dash/Climb
McCree: Roll
Soldier 76: Sprint
Tracer: Blink/Recall
Pharah: Concussive blast/Jump Boost
Reaper: Teleport/Shadow Step
Hanzo: Climb
Mei: Ice wall/Ice Cube thing
Widowmaker: Grapple Hook
Junkrat: Concussive mine
Torbjörn: Behind Turret
Reinhardt: Shield
Road Hog: Hook
Zarya: Bubble shields
Winston: Dome shield
D.va: Defense Matrix/Boosters
Ana: Sleep dart
Mercy: Guardian Angel
Lucio: Speed boost
So yeah, McCree's only got, like 4 options of heroes that Can't counter him.
So that sucks
then it's even worse, sure it charges fast with 200 health every 1.18 seconds meaning in less than 4 seconds roadhog can be taken down and the time only gets faster the more damaged the enemy team is. his ult is meant to be used to take down weaker enemies in a short amount of time while they're distracted by his teammates yet people normally go in solo and try to flank full health enemies or everyone just blocks it or hides. He either needs his old ult charge back, or give him the ability to ignore defense matrix, barriers, and bubble shields with his ultimate.
or make the delay between the hit and click lower
"Genji jumping around like a brain dead ballerina"
they honestly gotta stop touching mccree. the mccree players won't stop playing mccree cause his guns fucking awesome, but they keep trying to balance him anyways. not that he even needs to be balanced in the first place, he's in line with soldier, the other alternative to a high damage ranged character.
His ult still doesn't need any more nerfs. Its viability is way too fucking low as it is.
we need him to be played less so soldier/widow/hanzo can be viable.
+Kana Fukakami Hanzo is definitely gonna be viable in this upcoming patch. The use of widow isn't mccree's fault, because they added a damage drop-off that means a good widow wins on long range engagements. It's not that mccree is strong, it's that widow was nerfed a lot. Her pick rate is down because another character is just a straight up "better pick" than widow. Soldiers pick rate is actually higher than mccree, because his potential damage output and range is higher than mccree. Soldier also just has a better kit, with sprinting being basically a limited lucio speedbuff (he can't shoot while doing it, so that's why it's less effective than just a lucio) he has a pretty good self heal, and helix rockets take his ttk to about half on normal hp heroes.
Lets not forget Soldier's biotic field isn't just a self heal, it can also be used for allies as well.
+ArmadilloLion Mccrees better my g.
I used to get so pissed off at flashbang fan the hammer, still do because some people use it once then sit in a corner and wait for it again, but this video makes me sorry for McRee players who play him skillfully
Dogma 515 It's ASS
Dogma 515 I mean, it gets kills. Its better than trying to get a headshot bodyshot combo, especially on console
Guess what ? They nerfed his name and him overall aswell in OW2.
thing is mccree is one of those characters that doesnt need anything else besides a good left click to win at everything. everything
You mean the only character?
Thats exactly what he is saying in this video
*cough* *cough* JUNKRAT
but the problem is, this games latency and weird hitboxes doesnt service this.
Neiro.Ferine which is why he's the biggest pick for aim botters until they nerfed his range dmg just to piss more people off with it...
People telling this guy to git gud are geniuses. I bet he never thought of that.
Or... You know, make his ult better. Its PTR iteration is about as bad as DVA's ult pre-buff. Practically a liability to even use it. All it's good for is zoning out the enemy team.
has the concept of sarcasm never crossed your mind?
"I bet he never thought of that"
Even in text form, that is the most obvious example of sarcasm I can imagine.
Xavier No, I didn't. I will admit that. Not everybody can understand sarcasm in text as even in its most basic form, it's not easy without the use of visual cues or tone. Now, why must you point this out towards somebody who made a honest mistake in a condescending manner?..
Alex Night Just cuz.
He clearly didn't, because Mccree is by far the best offensive hero in the game.
I love McCree, leave us McCree mains alone
Destiny Herrera preach!!!
I agree McCree is good I hit 5 and 6 man's every time your just shit with him
Bigoof Bidoof I'm a mcgree main to I feel ur pain
Mcree? F U C K T H A T G U Y
Bigoof Bidoof yes they should
His ult may be garbage, but he's still a great hero and he's certainly the most memetastic.
garbage? can you use it good? do you ever played mccree?
It's highhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noon
Junk rats ult also loses full charge if you die while deploying it, even if the tire itself isn’t destroyed it dies anyway, but at least when you deploy the riptire successfully you can kill up to 6 guys.
aged like wine
Mccree's Ult is better when you combo it with other ults Mei, Reinhardt, Zarya, Ana and whoever else all work.
also, you dont necessarily need to get kills for his ult to be good. Use it as a scare tactic. Ive won plenty of king of the hill games like that. Pop your ult, enemy team hides, overtime counter ticks down, by the time they come out, too late.
pandulce an ultimate shouldn't need another ult on top of it to get kills mcrees ultimate should definitely be changed some how I think it should shoot quicker after u click or just have better tracking
an ult combo should be the cherry on top, not the fucking ice cream.
U can use it on it's own you just need to get good timing and a good position I've had loads of times on maps like volskaya where my teams failing to push and I go round the back high noon and get at least three kills
Exactly what you said drunken lmao
as a mcree main, I am in pain.
And to top it all off. 6 years later in the games sequel, they give the guy a pop gun with dmg fall off that loses to his cowgirls counterpart AND give him a shitty grenade that can't track.... 💀💀
Isn't McCree the one they keep having to Nerf?
Well, no. Just his gun
Well the problem is his kit sucks so they try to buff him by buffing his gun. This of course makes up for his bad kit but makes him too strong in general.
Plzbanme I guess that's the problem with making revolvers a viable option for fighting against LMGs and the like. If you changed the accuracy, it wouldn't be a revolver.
I wonder what he would've been like if they lowered the cooldown on his combat roll or flash bang...
+Regis Bodnar hed still be underwhelming probably.
No they are not nerfing him, they are making it impossible for people to play, i mean like if you wanted a easy mushy kill Roadhog is the better choice with the same exact play style, except way better then McCree, seriously no point even trying to play McCree when you have Roadhog,Roadhog can tank bullets down, can crouch camp, has further range, and can heal.
I agree with the fact his deley shouldn't happen buit if you're flanking and going for kills you're using his ult wrong. Use it as a zonign tool, to distract a push or force enemies into hiding, or towards your dps's. But flash and roll are also pretty balanced.
Yeah. . . I don't think the ult is supposed to work that way.
Besides, building up that ult for a minute or two just to make people hide for 6-7 seconds without any other repercussion is pretty damn depressing, hes an offense hero afterall.
What timberwolf said lol. It shouldn't be used that way. It's only used that way because it's a trash ult to begin with and pros were forced to think of SOME kind of use for it. You know you can force people to hide with Soldier's ult too lol
+Luis “Luxis” Burgos I think of Tactical Visor as the better Deadeye.
Up fast, do damage even if you don't kill, force people to hide, have manual control to prioritize targets.
This video seems so different now.
Except they don't balance vs overall player win rate, as it would destroy the competitive scene, McCree has a very high pick and win rate in competitive, he's consistently picked above any of the other DPS actually. Many of the examples you used there, like shooting a railing are just player error. His left click is amazing and can 2 shot non tank heros at range. He's in really good shape.
That was what he was complaining about. Literally the only good thing about him is his left click, and everything else conflicts with it. It makes him feel like a walking left click because using any of his other abilities would probably just get you killed or do nothing at all.
The video was very clear that McCree's gun is the only reason he's awesome and the argument was that his whole kit is built for a different style of character, but that his gun is so fucking awesome that none of it matters when people can aim.
It also doesn't change that Blizzard seems to hate McCree. So I don't get why you posted what you posted.
+Ferc Polo i dont get wy you commented... hes right, mccree is almost overpowered in the competitive scène, yes he is higher skillcapped then heroes like reaper and soldier thanks to the aim that is needed with mccree, complaining about his abilities? he has an INSTANT RELOADING ability that goes togheter with a character with one of the highest dps + a right click burst? that kit is awesome and very strong in the right hands, hard to land hits on moving targets? well just stun them... stunning is an incredible ability in a game that is all about movement... people are complaining about one of the best designed characters on this game... if you want to complaining then complaining about hanzo... because fuck that guy
I don't get why you commented. Hes right, mcree is pretty good in the competitive scene but has a kit that you barely use. His left click is the only useful ability he has and the rest are either only situationally useful or not useful at all. None of that matters though because his left click is so powerful it doesn't matter that the rest of his kit is garbage. He has a high skill cap because he is basically a sniper without a scope. He has a right click that you literally never use because it is more efficient to left click. He has a flashbang that you never use because you are too far away left clicking. He has an instant reload that is only used so that he can start left clicking again without having to wait for the reload animation. He has the weakest ult in the game except for maybe hanzo so you usually don't use it because it is more efficient to left click. This is the problem with mceee. It isn't that he is bad, its just that his kit is incredibly lopsided and most likely unfixable without a complete rework of his abilities.
+Dustrusk did you even read my comment?
"Ultimate is a joke" jumps down in front of Reinhardt shield -_-
okay but Mccree's ultimate is incredibly powerful, you can't just implement a move that will instantly kill any visible heroes without granting player fair warning and giving them time to escape. Like it probably has the lowest kill rating because it is designed to be counterable but also have extreme potential. can you imagine how OP his Ult would be without these implications. If he could be completely undetected, lock on quickly and ensure death of every skull, singl handed team kills would be garunteed every game.
if they were to improve mcree i think id like:
1. flashbang hit people more often
2. faster deadeye skull load for all classes.
any other thoughts?
You know how to improve McCree? Make the flashbang last more than half a fucking second. What use is stunning an enemy if they GET BETTER RIGHT AWAY?
If I ever direct the overwatch movie I will do everything in my power to stop tracer from being in it and put mccree in instead
the retribution is he got buffed now, his ult and his gun
Sergeant Human His ult is still trash, but at least his roll has a quicker cooldown, but should be 5 cause it doesn't justify a 6 second cooldown
@@sideeswipe I disagree, for being my main there is nothing wrong with my boi mccree. Gotta be smart with the ult, I got 4 kills with it in multiple games
Sergeant Human Ya I love mccree too but that doesn't change the fact it's one of the worst ults in the game. Sure it's not as bad as it used to be but that isn't saying much, I can get mass kills out of his ult too but I have to get on high ground, hit around a corner, and then use my ult and hope I don't get spotted. That's way too much time wasted for an ult, something that is supposed to be possibly game changing just by activating it. And the fact that he glows and says it's high noon doesn't help cause it gives the entire team an indication to run away, while DVA and hanzos ult barely give you any time to escape and are much more devastating
@@sideeswipe that's the cost of an insta lock on that gives a lot of damage, perfect for junkenstiens revenge. I know u don't feel it is balenced, but the buffs they gave it made it balenced to me
Benefits the victim not the shooter
dont know if youre saying thats good or bad but its definitely inconsistent with the rest of the game because blizzard has said this game 'favors the shooter'.... except mccree fk that guy
every hero favors the shooter except mccree, you play pharah and shoot a concussive blast at mei just as she ice blocks she will go flying... throw a flashbang at her just before she ice blocks and it does nothing
As a Mccree main, 40+ hrs, I can safely say mccree needs some work to his ultimate.
1. No delay after I click God dammit
2. Increase roll distance
3. Decrease left click damage and increase right click, not by much just feels underwhelming
4. Ult goes down like others, maybe 1/4 per second so I can safely cancel
5. Lock on time buffed.
As a McCree main i agree with the most things. But not with the left / right click thing. It should be worth using leftclick alot more then right click because it requires more skill.
GearDoctor roadhog is allowed to instakill you with his chain combo buy not mccree?
"If I ever stab you in the back, it will be while im looking at you in the eye"
That's the best thing I heard since I was born
" Not Mccree , fuck that guy :/ "
if they just nerf his gun a bit and buff the tits out of deadeye mccree might actually be a balanced character. but no
Forkless Pizza Not Mc Cree fuck that guy
His gun is OK now, at long distances does nothing. And yeah, he needs a little buff at his ult.
Actually mccree's ult charges the fastest in 6 offense heroes as he can pop heads from mid range and deal massive damage (140 per shot jeez), i can totally understand the ult energy drain nerf... And since he starts locking ppl and spend energy immediately after clicking ult, it requires more positioning and planning rather than genji or s76's ult which gives one second of "time for regret", or reaper/pharah's instant damage dealing ults. It's good to have a hero who does not simply press Q for ez kill/POTG, and it kinda balances out the OP revolver he had (and it is not as op today as it has been, we used to have 70 dmg fan-the-hammer shots remember?)
From my experience I've been able to 3-4 tap most heroes (bar tanks) from nearly any range. Most of the maps aren't long range anyway so he can easily 3 tap.
Forkless Pizza not mccree, fuck tht guy
McCree entire kit is cowboy based only. He goes around corners and you are best to ult from a high area or from near cover.
If he didn't say "it's highhhhhh noon" his ult wouldn't be that bad
+Garrett Hunt Yeah, it's the scariest ult to hear, but it doesn't live up to its scare.
Garrett Hunt
holy shit that's an A+ idea
Ceratics or at least so loud
SHUT UP THE HIGH NOON PART IS THE BEST PART ABOUT THE ULTIMATE
he should stop glowing like the fucking sun that would be better #mccreemainpains
Here's my tweak. Make high noon ignore shields and ice wall, and a little quicker
Few months later... this vid still holds true...
Y does dat joke keep getting funnyer the more u say it 😂😂😂
Look at his other video with the flash bang, it's hilarious. :D
TM Turbo FTW Why is your spelling so poor?
Cause' it reveals the truth and por situantios of the McCree mains like me
This stuff is all SO F$#%ING TRUE!!! The thematically coolest character in the game has the worst ultimate and kit of them all!!!
"Damn, that instakill hurt"
McCree is always going to suffer for being LOL at launch. Can't wait for his Ult to never be used outside of Zarya combos next patch
He was laughable at launch in how OP he was
His fan the hammer used to do like 420 damage for one. Tanks weren't even in the meta because McCree would just Flash, fan, roll, (fan again). That's pretty much it. They updated his damage fall off distance recently so he's better at range.
so basically you don't have the skill to use mcree so you want him nerfed
Thank god Blizzard doesn't listen to lowrank idiots for their balance.
Cromakoth ...
"McCree's ultimate on its own is terrible, mostly because EVERYONE has some kind of way to effectively avoid it. A single tank, Genji or Mei in particular can just run up to the McCree, activate their block/reflect/shield ability and completely nullify his ultimate"
All you have to do is replace McCree with Pharah, Reaper etc - no it's not like they can block these ults too y'know, that's nonsense!
And no, there's a reason why in 65-70+ there's always a McCree around. Because his entire kit is useful and he is the most reliable out of all assault heroes.
im glad you know the pain. as a mccree main, i approve this video.
When you said that heroes got ultimates related to them, I thought of Hanzo. An archer that shoots 2 giant spinning dragons out of a bow.
Theres a guy that works at blizzard called McCree
Hyperpro91 Fuck that guy.
Hyperpro91 creators: wait we're naming someone after mccree? nobody likes that guy
Jeff kaplan: exactly
2:47 That sounded so sexy...
*pushes Hanzo towards McCree*
comfort him.
uhhhh....... is this going somewhere?
His ult just needs to lock faster
subbed, this fucker's humor is the reason i'm alive
Watching this 4 years later when they made more 225hp and huge hitbox flash and 1 shot head Mcree….
This is a great video! You honestly deserve more subs.