Fujifilm X-T50 & XF 16-50mm F2.8-4.8 - Hands On
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- I got the chance to try the new Fujifilm X-T50 and 16-50mm F2.8-4.8 R LM WR on launch date and... watch the video and you'll know!
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00:00 - Intro
01:17 - X-T50
15:43 - XF 16-50mm
22:47 - Price
31:05 - Conclusions
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Video Recorded with the following gear:
Camera: Fujifilm X-H2s
Lens: Fujifilm 18mm F1.4
Microphone: Rode VideoMic Go II
Various lights 
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Quick correction: the screen resolution is the same as that of the X-T5. What you lose is the side hinge
I own this lens. It creates razor-sharp photos using my X-T5.
I know, great lens
Very good video Luca, excellent analysis. I’m not interested in the camera, my X-T4 is doing just fine, but the lens is another story. I’m more than happy with the performance of the XF16-80, but I’m seriously considering the XF16-50 for its compactness and especially the internal zooming mechanism. Yes I understand about the extra 30mm, but I find that in most situation I can take a couple of steps forward to make up for the difference. Having said all that, I’m not thinking about replacing the XF16-80, that lens is definitely a keeper, but a new toy is always fun. Be well and stay safe.
You'll definitely like the new kit lens! Thanks as always
Hi Luca.
I, too, find the X-T50 a bit odd. Like you mentioned, the X-T5 is just a bit more expensive, and can even be found for the same price on the used market. I purchased the X-T5 two months ago for €1474, which I think is a quite good deal.
Purchased it with the 35mm f/1.4 too for €335, and later added the 8mm f/3.5 for €737, and the 14mm f/2.8 for €268.
I actually just sold the 14mm f/2.8 for the same price, as I want a zoom kit instead. Not sure, if I will get the Sigma 10-18mm f/2.8 or the original Fujifilm 10-24mm f/4 as my wide angle zoom. The Sigma is lighter and faster, but the Fujifilm can be found for about half as much used.
None of them are wide enough for me, though, so I will probably keep the 8mm. I hope someone makes a lightweight zoom that goes to 8mm or even wider.
As for a standard zoom, I will probably still get the Fujifilm 18-55mm f/2.8-4. I have seen people with great copies on the X-T5. I inspected a lot of images on Flickr. It will probably take a few copies to get a good one, but I don't want to spend 2.5-3 times as much on the new Fujifilm 16-50mm f/2.8-4.8 as to an used 18-55mm. I would prefer the new one, though.
My telephoto zoom will probably be the Fujifilm 70-300mm f/4-5.6. 300mm will come in handy for some abstracts of landscape and architecture.
I actually used the Sony a7R V with some GM zooms before, but it was too much camera for me. I'm having more fun with the Fujifilm X system due to haptics, ergonomics, style, size and weight, and I save a lot of money, too!
As for the appeal of the GFX system, I do get it, especially for professional landscape photographers like yourself. I'm personally not interested as of now, but that's more due wanting something smaller, lighter, more fun, and as I simply don't need it as a hobbyist.
This is just a passion for me, though, and I just photograph once or twice a week, beside my studies. I occasionally visit a few forests within one hour away, but other than that, I don't get to photograph much landscape. There just isn't much here, and I don't have time to travel that often.
Often, I stick to architecture because of that, and there's quite a lot of interesting architecture in Copenhagen. My dream is to photograph landscapes one day, but either way, I will enjoy it occasionally.
Anyway, best wishes.
Regards, Frederik.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Enjoy what you have, it's more than most photographers will ever need anyway.
I am personally attracted to the GFX system but like you, I just can't justify it, money and size wise, for what I do normally.
That being said however... The image quality is outstanding with that.
As for comparing used and new market I'm not a big fan of that as it changes the protective and, let's be clear... Most people buy a camera once every 5/6 years, those will buy new, there's no way they'll buy used.
That's what I was referring to. Cheers
So I'm interested in the X-T50. My biggest deal-breaker, however, comes down to the custom recipes. I know the Film Simulation dial allows for stock film simulations. I was wondering if I can still store my own custom recipes (such as those found on FujiXWeekly) in the Q-Menu? I can do that now on my X100v and I really would like to continue this practice if I move over to the X-T50.
I'm pretty sure you can, I didn't have the time to set the camera up during my test. But I believe if you put that dial on C, you should be able to operate as usual
@snarkyguy you can! I asked a Fuji rep at my local camera store when I got to play with it, as I love using recipes when shooting.
You can store up to 7 recipes on the XT-50 by going into the custom settings and then can pull them up in the Q menu.
ive heard that you cant save the custom white balance on the recipes on the xt50, whereas on the xt5 it is possible
the screen resolution is actually the same as on the x-t5. it was upgraded. there the difference to the x-t5 is only the limited tilting capability
You are right, I'll pin a clarification on that
Are the silver parts of the x-t50 (and especially the flip-up flash cover) made of metal or plastic?
They are metal
Great analysis Luca - I appreciate your discussion which is the best so far. It is becoming clear that Fuji is doing what it has always done - offer the same hardware more or less across the lineup, and letting users choose their weapon, so to speak (just like they did with the 4th gen). You aren't sacrificing image quality just because you wanted the smallest possible body. Overall, that is what attracted me to Fuji in the first place - the sense that they cram tons of features into the cameras and don't force you, necessarily, to head straight to the flagship if you need this or that specific feature - though this time that has happened with the H series if you want a stacked sensor / deep buffers.
I was bummed that Fuji wasn't a bit more ambitious, releasing a 16-50mm with a fixed f/2.8 aperture or at least preserving f/4 at the long end. I am also annoyed by the "internal zoom" marketing - the lens is clearly an "internal pumper" zoom - a bit misleading. But if it is sharp wide open and if the AF is solid indoors and out, I am sure it will be a winner. Sold in a kit, for about $400, I think it is priced about right. For $800, not so much. I have my fingers crossed that Fuji will update the 16-55mm as a fixed f/2 lens with better autofocus, magnification, and bokeh, even if it has to be a little bigger. That would drop a bomb on the camera market (like Canon's 28-70 f/2) and make it a seriously interesting choice for pros and for me a 100% must-buy lens that could threaten my prime collection since I am always around f/2.
I think the pricing of the XT50 is basically absurd, too close to the XT5 which is too close to the XH2. With prices going up across the X-lineup, but prices for GFX going down at the same time, it seems clear that Fuji is taxing its X-buyers to pay the R&D costs, knowing that the GFX line is still too slow and expensive to compete with the best full frame cameras. I suppose that is OK, but with prices where they are, I am not thinking "GFX" as an upgrade, I am thinking "Nikon or Canon". I don't see an upgrade for myself outside of the XH2 or XH2S, and for that kind of money I have to seriously consider something like a Z6iii or R6ii, used R5, Z8, whatever. IMO the 40mp sensor needs a faster readout. It is in some ways a downgrade vs. the older 26mp sensor (I am am not holding my breath for big changes in an XT6). In fact, at the same time that Fuji seems to be pushing more into sports/action/wildlife with new lenses like the 150-600 and the killer GF 500mm, the bodies seem to be moving in a different direction. Sports/action/wildlife shooters need solid performance at higher ISOs, deep buffers, and electronic shutters are preferable (quiet / no blackout / pre shot features). The stacked 26mp sensor needs to show up in a photo-centric body, that would be killer.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! As for the 16-55, I too hope they can make it F2, but you can expect the size to be huge as well.
Not a big deal for some, but definitely a big deal for others.
We'll see.
For what concerns sports/wildlife, the camera for that is clearly the X-H2s. Although you may not like the form factor, that's the camera they prepared for that.
And it does really good
A f/2 on a Fujifilm X camera is equivalent to f/3 on full-frame, so not comparable.
It will probably even be heavier than the f/2.8 full-frame options, just like their 16-55mm f/2.8, 50-140mm f/2.8, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6, and 50mm f/1, all are heavier than full-frame options with the same or faster specs.
Nothing special about any of the above.
I use Fujifilm X myself, but people seem to forget that the crop factor impacts both focal length and aperture.
Yes, an f/2 lens will let in the same amount of light on any sensor, but as the sensor crops in (some light is cut off), the light gathering and blur are similiar to f/3 on full-frame.
Apply ~1.5 to focal lengths and apertures. Here are some examples:
10-24mm f/4 = 15-36mm f/6
16-80mm f/4 - 24-120mm f/6
16-50mm f/2.8-4.8 = 24-75mm f/4.2-7.2
16-55mm f/2.8 = 24-82,5mm f/4.2
18-55mm f/2.8-4
50-140mm f/2.8 = 75-210mm f/4.2
70-300mm f/4-5.6 = 105-450mm f/6-8.4
100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 = 150-600mm f/6,8-8,4
150-600mm f/5.6-8 = 225-900mm f/8.4-12
8mm f/3.5 = 12mm f/5.3
18/23/35/50/90mm f/2 =
27/35/53/75/135mm f/3
18/23/33 f/1.4 = 27/35/50 f/2.1
50mm f/1 = 75mm f/1.5
56mm f/1.2 = 84mm f/1.8
Most of these lenses can be found on Fujifilm at the same price, weight and size.
Many claim that the Fujifilm 18-55mm f/2.8-4 is a fast kit zoom, but it's not. It's equal to the age old 28-80/90mm f/4-5.6 in terms of specs, and even slightly heavier. The latter does make sense, though, as it has OIS.
The only owns that don't have direct replacements so far, are the 8mm f/3.5 and 50mm f/2. There is the Laowa 11mm f/4.5, though, which weighs a bit more, but is wider and faster.
Although I love and use Fujifilm, I think that many of their lenses are a a bit misleading, and people seem to be confuse the specs.
Yes, many of the above are small and compact, but similiar lenses are made on full-frame with similiar parametres.
When comparing apertures, they are not impressive.
The 70-300mm f/4-5.6 is one of my favourites, but it's reallt a f/6-8.4, and if they were to make one that would give the same results as a f/4-5.6 on full-frame, it would most likely be bigger and heavier.
Being smaller due to covering a smaller sensor is one factor, but they must also factor in aperture if wantint a 1:1 comparison.
I'm not stating any of this to make the system seem less appealing or argue, but it's just the reality.
As for the GFX system, they need some zoom lenses with more range.
I still only see this system's appeal for architecture, landscapes, products and portraits.
Full-frane cameras will have similiar resolution soon, and the slight gain in dynamic range isn't a worthy trade compared to faster and more accurate full-frame cameras, which also have longer and faster lenses.
That is at least true for wildlife, and probably will be for a decade or more.
Although it's relatively small for what it is, it's still unnecessarily big for what one gains.
Anyway, I enjoy using Fujifilm, mostly due to haptics and aesthetics, and I'm excited to see their next moves.
If they had a full-frame system with the styling of their APS-C line, but a lens philosophy of a mixture of that and Sony, I would be sold.
That will probably never happen, though, as the Japanese are infinitely proud and stubborn.
@@carbon6372Sony’s “lens philosophy” is to cripple 3rd party options, which is a shame, since you have to buy big, heavy, expensive 1st party lenses to unlock all the best features. Fuji doesn’t play that game with its 3rd party lens makers, another reason it is such a good value system.
As for the rest, I mean, ok. But I’m not sure what your point is-all I said was I want a 16-55 f/2. I don’t care how small, big or heavy it is so long as it produces excellent image quality and takes a beating like a good pro lens should.
Fuji's APS-C system is awesome because it can produce professional image quality at a far lower cost typically with size and weight, though it will never beat the GFX line for maximum image quality and print size. That's why I plan to stay with APS-C for low-light shooting and add GFX someday for situations where I know that resolution/max print sizes are desirable (not to mention the unique aspect ratio). It is awesome to get to shoot my Fuji typically 1-stop lower than FF and yet have MORE depth of field and LOWER ISO or a faster shutter speeds to work with. I've saved thousands on fast primes and zoom lenses with top notch optics so I can handle the few tradeoffs that it has entailed. As much as I love Sony/Canon/Nikon, the cost is just a lot higher for what you are getting (or not getting).
It's a little bit expensive as first camera. Years ago I could afford my X-T20 because of the price. Nevertheless it's a great upgrade. It's just weird how they decided to manage the Film Simulations with the Custom Settings (C1 C7 for recipes). I would have liked a combined approached where the a given recipe is assigned directly to a film simulation
I agree on the approach you recommend. It would have been the perfect approach. Realistically they can still do that with a firmware upgrade (minus changing the engraving in the dial)
If you see the combined price of the x-t50 and the xf16-50, you get a good price for the lens. There is kind of a discount on it on that way, which makes it reasonably priced :)
Wait for my review tomorrow... It's gonna look even more of a reasonable price😉
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography oehhh so excited. Will be my answer to my search for een Private camera. As a professional photo and videographer who has most relevant RF L lenses and canon bodies I look for something totally different, but still with some ease of use. Hope fuji can help with that :)
X T5 is a much better buy. I had the X T30ii which the X T50 is replacing. It was an ok camera in size and feel. The X T5 feels high end plus that battery is way better.
The X-T50 is a higher tier compared to the X-T30. That being said yes, price is a bit higher than it should have been
Conclusion. Fujifilm You are out of your mind.
You are asking too much money for toy camera.🤣🤣🤣
Not a toy camera at all, but steep price for sure
Need to speak louder
OK THEN!!! 😅