If I were coach I'd bench whoever I thought wasn't putting in effort for the rest of the half just to send a message. I know bench players would love more time on the court.
Exactly and the bench could have won this game too. I’m not sure if Woodson can do an about face with his discipline after establishing that he’s soft as a coach. Hope they try harder next game! They gotta beat SC
First half was inexcusable. There's too much experience on the team to let this type of BS take place. The play is reflected by the coaching. Woody could learn a few lessons by watching Cignetti.
Yeah it was and after seeing them go on a 52-12 run you know it was a matter of not playing to a standard. Gotta see more against SC! I like Rice hope it was one bad game for him
@@ryno6284I bet he's jealous of Cigs success. I've got one for you that is funny to me .... Use your imagination on this, picture Malik Reneau slow jogging down the court if he was playing for Coach Cignetti. Oh my gosh Cig would blister his ass!.
Heck yeah they are it’s unreal how much they make. Meanwhile the last jobs report was the worst in 5 years these guys don’t know how good they got it. My old man response ha
I agree with everything you are saying! This is exactly why guys like Harrelson and Mullins didn't come to IU. It's why McNeely is at UCONN. You can just tell how toxic the culture is by watching the effort. It's a program problem that can only be fixed with making a coaching change.
It’s def in the culture and affects everything with even the players. I’ve heard so many positive things about the coaching from mostly his friends but you can’t mask over loafing around out there and looking unprepared to play a team ranked in the 300s. Hope they look better next game but I’m failing to see how Woody makes this team way better than any of the past 3. And you’re right we aren’t getting recruits just guys who want paid
@@douglascarlson9006 You are so right! Woodson proved that last year with "real fans" comment and by using Leal and Galloway as pons to stand up for him. Dolson is going to have to realize that it's going to be OK to move on from an IU grad and it needs to happen sooner rather than later!!
The Humpster believes Center and forwards win games , so offense is based on them . Not guards. That is what you get when your back ground is the pros . In college , guards win the game .
do you think these guys could get away with this even in practice at UCONN? Think about that they did this in an actual game, A GAME. Hurley would have these guys doing stairs till 3AM. And we wonder why Braylon Mullins gets snatched up.
That’s for sure I just watched a thing on Hurley intense worker expects the best out of himself and everyone. No excuses for watching garbage for 22 min until they wanna run hard. Hard to believe this is Indiana anymore
@@IndianaSportsConnection you couldn't be more correct! It's a product of Woodson's horrible practice expectations and it's just unbelievable. I said it when we got them and I'll repeat it, the portal talent means NOTHING if you don't have a coach to instill a culture of high expectations. I'm going to coin it "The Cignetti Effect" and it's not anywhere to be seen within the basketball program.
He will he will he’s got it lined up. This team should be gunning for the sweet 16 and beyond and I know it’s early but we need to see more out of rice he scored 20 on tenn hope it was one bad game at least for him.
@@DougProbst-x4s Doug, I understand your point... but against a good team, the way we played last time out a good team will blow us out by halftime. We saw it happen last year
That 1st was 1000% an effort issue. Agreed. For sure. And not to make excuses but it was the second game with a lot of new faces, 12 noon game where the football team beat Michigan the night before. I wonder if the guys were apart of the after game festivities? If so, they shouldn’t have been and that is on the coaching staff. With all that said, I personally like Woody. If you look at all the successful coaches all time in the sport(coach K, etc…) they had rough starts. Just sayin we got to stop this coaching carousel. This team will be fine. They need to get their asses up every game with the intensity they had in the second half for both halves!
I want the team to do well under woody as well. To me I don’t think he brings energy to the job on the regular and it reflects on the court. This may have been a hungover half but still they gotta take these games more seriously
we are growing a beard. Men look like super stars compatred to IU women. They played like Zombies . Parrish and McNeil are not showing up to play . You have 5 years seniors and they can't handle a full court press . It was painful .
Tray plays hard but doesn't have the skills. He can pass well and get assists. IU guards must start hitting 3's or they will lose to every ranked team they play.
Yeah he did I have faith Dolson can get it done I’ll be sick if this team ends up being another let down us iu fans can’t take it. The football has been a nice reprieve
I think he drives better off the wing he has a bigger body I know he one of our best passers would like to see him drive off the wing and find rice or Goode for a 3. He might be the point guard once again he’s best in the floater lob game on the team
fair enough, but that’s part of the reason I like him as the primary ball handler when rice is on the bench. Allows him to be involved in ball screens a lot and be the decision maker. Definitely want to see him off ball too, but I think he’s the perfect second ball handler for us, and I love what he brings defensively.
Until we get rid of woodson I'm not very optimistic about Indiana basketball we will stay in the same place we always spend he is not doing anything good
Aaron .... You nailed it! This just might be my favorite show I've watched on your channel. Hilarious,apissed off and a great job seeing what was REALLY going on. My mind kept going back to last season and the last Nebraska game. Heads up Woody, kids that are reasonably talented, and are willing to play hard are going to kick your ass. No I don't enjoy being negative and I've really been looking forward to this basketball season.
Yeah I don’t like being negative either but when all offseason people talked of the bad games last year against weak teams kept us out of the tourney then the second game they crap themselves for a half. I don’t know what he’s preaching to these guys
What else do you expect from a Mike Woodson coached team. I hope they lose over half of there games,and I have been a fan of IU for many years and until he is gone I cannot watch. He should take some lesson from a Kentucky and Duke coached teams. And I can’t almost guarantee you they will not get into the NCAA tournament. PLEASE CAN YOU GET A COACH!!!!🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
I know it’s pathetic. You’d think these guys would be pumped and ready to play their second game as a Hoosier and they look like they don’t care. I don’t get it
I take credit for being one of the first to call out Reneau on his sluggish play ... I was ripping on him from the beginning of last year ... blame Woodson, then fire him ... IU will have to make the Final 4 to save his job ...
It’s pitiful and he’s so good with his touch around the basket he just doesn’t want to develop into a real serious player. I think this team has to be good and go far for him to stay just squeaking by every year is not the look we want!
@@IndianaSportsConnection I firmly believe these "effort issues" actually affect recruiting, because they are an indication of the coaching staff's priorities ... do you think AD Scott Dolson and PRES Pam Whitten are content to keep throwing big NIL bucks at these portal transfers? ... I do not and that's why we need 5-star recruits to choose IU for reasons other than money.
@@IndianaSportsConnection They gotta fire Woodson and his entire staff ... But in their defense, critical fans like me have been labeled by Woodson (and Leal) as not being true fans ... So just ignore my "inappropriate" comments here.
Dislike your program, always ranting, always complaining, nothing positive comes out of your mouth. Their is two halves in basketball, you just couldn't give iu any credit for a nice second half performance. Also failed to mention that E.illinois shot almost 60 percent in the first half made many difficult shots. Its obvious your dislike for our coach. Maybe you should dwell on some positive instead of your negativity. Its only game two!!!!!!!
....this isn't "Inside the Hall"....this team looks just like the last three, there is talent but will this coaching staff use it..it just slays me how sensitive some fans are about criticism of the program....
@@DougProbst-x4s Woody sure doesn't coach like he played. No one was more excited than me when he was hired. I hope after the USC game I'm eating crow for my criticis..
Agreed. Stop the complaining and negativity! These young fellas will get it together. If the score was 90-89, or heck if it was even 90- 75, I could see the negative view. But they WON BY 35 with basically 15 min to go. I’m sure Coach ripped them one for that but it’s to early to carry away like that….respectfully my opinion!
I disagree big time these guys are making big time money to play here people in the past didnt get that and they gave a rip. I think the whole way they are doing things is wrong from the top down and it shows on the court
If I were coach I'd bench whoever I thought wasn't putting in effort for the rest of the half just to send a message. I know bench players would love more time on the court.
Exactly and the bench could have won this game too. I’m not sure if Woodson can do an about face with his discipline after establishing that he’s soft as a coach. Hope they try harder next game! They gotta beat SC
Man you f nailed it love your show ❤
Thank you just calling it like I see it here 😎👍🚀
First half was inexcusable. There's too much experience on the team to let this type of BS take place. The play is reflected by the coaching. Woody could learn a few lessons by watching Cignetti.
Yeah it was and after seeing them go on a 52-12 run you know it was a matter of not playing to a standard. Gotta see more against SC! I like Rice hope it was one bad game for him
Woody despises Cigs! Because he wins!
Oh yeah he does just google him he started from the bottom of college too woody never put that time in!
Great comment!
@@ryno6284I bet he's jealous of Cigs success.
I've got one for you that is funny to me .... Use your imagination on this, picture Malik Reneau slow jogging down the court if he was playing for Coach Cignetti. Oh my gosh Cig would blister his ass!.
Many of these “Students” are making way more money than most of the population with NIL.
Heck yeah they are it’s unreal how much they make. Meanwhile the last jobs report was the worst in 5 years these guys don’t know how good they got it. My old man response ha
@@IndianaSportsConnection old guys like us have perspective 😂
I agree with everything you are saying! This is exactly why guys like Harrelson and Mullins didn't come to IU. It's why McNeely is at UCONN. You can just tell how toxic the culture is by watching the effort. It's a program problem that can only be fixed with making a coaching change.
It’s def in the culture and affects everything with even the players. I’ve heard so many positive things about the coaching from mostly his friends but you can’t mask over loafing around out there and looking unprepared to play a team ranked in the 300s. Hope they look better next game but I’m failing to see how Woody makes this team way better than any of the past 3. And you’re right we aren’t getting recruits just guys who want paid
Agree Jason, and you can bet the ranch that Woodson and his staff see our comments ...
@@douglascarlson9006 You are so right! Woodson proved that last year with "real fans" comment and by using Leal and Galloway as pons to stand up for him. Dolson is going to have to realize that it's going to be OK to move on from an IU grad and it needs to happen sooner rather than later!!
@@jasonspiegel6302 That comment bothered me ... that really, really got under my skin.
Lackluster attitude just like their coach
That’s where it comes from. They need some fire SC will be a tougher game!
The Humpster believes Center and forwards win games , so offense is based on them . Not guards. That is what you get when your back ground is the pros . In college , guards win the game .
Guards win in college we’ve all said it they gotta shoot it
do you think these guys could get away with this even in practice at UCONN? Think about that they did this in an actual game, A GAME. Hurley would have these guys doing stairs till 3AM. And we wonder why Braylon Mullins gets snatched up.
That’s for sure I just watched a thing on Hurley intense worker expects the best out of himself and everyone. No excuses for watching garbage for 22 min until they wanna run hard. Hard to believe this is Indiana anymore
@@IndianaSportsConnection you couldn't be more correct! It's a product of Woodson's horrible practice expectations and it's just unbelievable. I said it when we got them and I'll repeat it, the portal talent means NOTHING if you don't have a coach to instill a culture of high expectations. I'm going to coin it "The Cignetti Effect" and it's not anywhere to be seen within the basketball program.
I’m telling you now .. don’t expect anything more from Woodson.. when we lose the important games he’ll have all the excuses
He will he will he’s got it lined up. This team should be gunning for the sweet 16 and beyond and I know it’s early but we need to see more out of rice he scored 20 on tenn hope it was one bad game at least for him.
Oh my gosh I dread hearing his post game comments.
It's not how you start it's how you finish, IU wins going away good job woody!
You just not a "true" fan Brian.
@@DougProbst-x4s Doug, I understand your point... but against a good team, the way we played last time out a good team will blow us out by halftime. We saw it happen last year
Mike Woodson = NBA = Indiana Basketball
I do sometimes feel like he’s coaching a g league team blah….
Holy cow! You’re absolutely right!!!! That would NEVER fly with Bob Knight…..
It’s a long year they better get this straightened out this week and look ready against SC.
That 1st was 1000% an effort issue. Agreed. For sure. And not to make excuses but it was the second game with a lot of new faces, 12 noon game where the football team beat Michigan the night before. I wonder if the guys were apart of the after game festivities? If so, they shouldn’t have been and that is on the coaching staff. With all that said, I personally like Woody. If you look at all the successful coaches all time in the sport(coach K, etc…) they had rough starts. Just sayin we got to stop this coaching carousel. This team will be fine. They need to get their asses up every game with the intensity they had in the second half for both halves!
I want the team to do well under woody as well. To me I don’t think he brings energy to the job on the regular and it reflects on the court. This may have been a hungover half but still they gotta take these games more seriously
we are growing a beard. Men look like super stars compatred to IU women. They played like Zombies . Parrish and McNeil are not showing up to play . You have 5 years seniors and they can't handle a full court press . It was painful .
I gotta watch them I’ve just heard about the struggles they gotta figure it out
We need to get rid of Woody and bring in the Beard!
That right I could see it!
It’s good that he reloaded because it will prove how good he is or isn’t. He sucks IMO
Now he’s got a great roster and no excuses but I think the excuses are being conjured up somehow. I love Indiana but they looked like they didn’t care
Question: Who thinks this team would perform better if Coach Cignetti were coaching them?
I do it’s gotta be a mentality thing
If a player on NIL maybe issue fines
That’s a great idea they need to float that out there woody was an nba guy that’s how they do it!
The Men's team is undefeated. I think IU plays to their opponent .
No doubt
Tray plays hard but doesn't have the skills. He can pass well and get assists. IU guards must start hitting 3's or they will lose to every ranked team they play.
Totally agree with you Carlyle and rice they gotta take 3’s or the big boys will beat us no problem
It's outrageous that this dude spent a million dollars at the Golden Corral!
How did he do it. That’s a lot of corral!
Not the players, its the coach. He is a nice guy but he is not in tune with how the game is played today.
That’s the truth out of touch
Get rid of Woodson, get rid of Buckner and let Dolsen pick the next basketball coach, seems to hit a homer with the football hire.
Yeah he did I have faith Dolson can get it done I’ll be sick if this team ends up being another let down us iu fans can’t take it. The football has been a nice reprieve
Why do you want Galloway to play more off ball? He’s shown he’s better as a primary/secondary ball handler and he’s a streaky shooter.
I think he drives better off the wing he has a bigger body I know he one of our best passers would like to see him drive off the wing and find rice or Goode for a 3. He might be the point guard once again he’s best in the floater lob game on the team
fair enough, but that’s part of the reason I like him as the primary ball handler when rice is on the bench. Allows him to be involved in ball screens a lot and be the decision maker. Definitely want to see him off ball too, but I think he’s the perfect second ball handler for us, and I love what he brings defensively.
@@Sloo1947 no i def see what your saying there for sure 👍
Until we get rid of woodson I'm not very optimistic about Indiana basketball we will stay in the same place we always spend he is not doing anything good
I wanna see more out of them for sure! This Saturday they play at least a real team hope they look great then!
Aaron .... You nailed it! This just might be my favorite show I've watched on your channel. Hilarious,apissed off and a great job seeing what was REALLY going on. My mind kept going back to last season and the last Nebraska game. Heads up Woody, kids that are reasonably talented, and are willing to play hard are going to kick your ass.
No I don't enjoy being negative and I've really been looking forward to this basketball season.
Yeah I don’t like being negative either but when all offseason people talked of the bad games last year against weak teams kept us out of the tourney then the second game they crap themselves for a half. I don’t know what he’s preaching to these guys
What else do you expect from a Mike Woodson coached team. I hope they lose over half of there games,and I have been a fan of IU for many years and until he is gone I cannot watch. He should take some lesson from a Kentucky and Duke coached teams. And I can’t almost guarantee you they will not get into the NCAA tournament. PLEASE CAN YOU GET A COACH!!!!🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
I know it’s pathetic. You’d think these guys would be pumped and ready to play their second game as a Hoosier and they look like they don’t care. I don’t get it
I have a hard time with know it alls
I am a very stupid person that’s why I pointed out what I did!
I take credit for being one of the first to call out Reneau on his sluggish play ...
I was ripping on him from the beginning of last year ... blame Woodson, then fire him ...
IU will have to make the Final 4 to save his job ...
It’s pitiful and he’s so good with his touch around the basket he just doesn’t want to develop into a real serious player. I think this team has to be good and go far for him to stay just squeaking by every year is not the look we want!
@@IndianaSportsConnection I firmly believe these "effort issues" actually affect recruiting, because they are an indication of the coaching staff's priorities ... do you think AD Scott Dolson and PRES Pam Whitten are content to keep throwing big NIL bucks at these portal transfers? ... I do not and that's why we need 5-star recruits to choose IU for reasons other than money.
I second that! Get guys who wanna be here!
@@IndianaSportsConnection They gotta fire Woodson and his entire staff ...
But in their defense, critical fans like me have been labeled by Woodson (and Leal) as not being true fans ...
So just ignore my "inappropriate" comments here.
Let’s do better IU!!! Love your show
Nba coaching.
Hoping to see a change every year and…waiting I think this team has so much potential but it’s just potential right now
Dislike your program, always ranting, always complaining, nothing positive comes out of your mouth. Their is two halves in basketball, you just couldn't give iu any credit for a nice second half performance. Also failed to mention that E.illinois shot almost 60 percent in the first half made many difficult shots. Its obvious your dislike for our coach. Maybe you should dwell on some positive instead of your negativity. Its only game two!!!!!!!
Just my opinion
....this isn't "Inside the Hall"....this team looks just like the last three, there is talent but will this coaching staff use it..it just slays me how sensitive some fans are about criticism of the program....
@@DougProbst-x4s Woody sure doesn't coach like he played. No one was more excited than me when he was hired. I hope after the USC game I'm eating crow for my criticis..
Agreed. Stop the complaining and negativity! These young fellas will get it together. If the score was 90-89, or heck if it was even 90- 75, I could see the negative view. But they WON BY 35 with basically 15 min to go. I’m sure Coach ripped them one for that but it’s to early to carry away like that….respectfully my opinion!
I disagree big time these guys are making big time money to play here people in the past didnt get that and they gave a rip. I think the whole way they are doing things is wrong from the top down and it shows on the court