@@Mac-po1sr Frank's stories are always B plots in all the episodes it's Fiona's struggles to keep the family and herself afloat that take up center stage and all the time too
@@hhhhhgvv6820 that’s simply not true he has the most interesting story from the show he was struggling with his sexuality wanting to be in the army being bipolar he wasn’t Frank’s son he had a criminal boyfriend etc. he was by far the most interesting character
i wish they didn't act like fiona didn't exist...at least have em act like she's on phone once in awhile..sumone so close to family wldnt just turn back on em ffs
Right because right after Emmy left they pretty much never talk about Fiona in the show they mentioned her a couple times but when do you ever see them on the phone pretending to be on the phone with her or something else it’s like they completely forgot about her but I’m really hoping that Emmy does return for the season finale of the show
It’s weird, right? For her to have done so much for them and to have such a big part, you’d think she’d get mentioned. Even V, her best friend, doesn’t talk about her.
i found out that the original girl who played mandy(like in the very early seasons) was uncomfortable with where her character was going and quit which is why we see a new actress later on in the show
the fact that most of the stars left because of issues with pay or the show runners posed me off so much. these characters are so strong and they deserve to be kept on the show, especially fiona, ian, mickey and the other characters.
I think secretly they left not because if pay. But because the writers subjected them to constant political and social diatribes they may it have agreed with. They absolutely ruined the last 2 seasons with the every other line jab at politics. But alas, Hollywood believes they hold a superior candle to everyone else, and they think the peasants are just dying to hear their opinions.
Frank, Kevin, Ian and Micky...Micky overtook Kevin as the funniest character imo, obviously the writers made that happen, considering Micky was pretty unlikable for the most part up until the last few seasons.
Out of all the Gallaghers Lip was the most interesting. From being the family genius to struggling with alcoholism. He was literally on his way to becoming his father.
@@piplupxpp i’m glad they didn’t go that way, frank used to be a genius just like lip but ended up the wrong way. lip was so close to becoming exactly like frank. i feel like lip is who frank could’ve been
I loved Svetlana and the dynamic she brought to the show. Not to mention, Fiona- but sorry to hear she wasn’t be compensated as well as her other costars.
Emmy also had stated in an interview that she wished Fiona would've gotten her happily ever after, but they always gave her "happy" but never "ever after"
I absolutely hated Karen and her storyline she's a absolutely great actress I just hated her storyline with lip when I watch those seasons I just skip those parts lol there's only 2 times I do that in this show that storyline and the whole Debbie wanting a baby and her obsession with Derek I can't stand that either but other then that I agree Mandy was excellent I liked Jimmy to Sheila was great as well
She totally failed her responsibility with being the legal guardian, poor little Liam was her responsibility! And left without saying goodbye to him. Pos for sure
fiona leaving was really sad but (to me) shameless is a good show and will always be fun to watch no matter what happens. And everyone is saying that shameless changed a lot but i just don't see it, It's still the same funny, emotional, chaotic shameless to me.
She was the the second center to the show..after she left..it wasn't the same.. she is beautiful..and her character was unmatched..but they were butchering her character before she left
@@thethinkingmansgame5050 she was my fav character and will forever be my fav but still the show isn't bad now like everyone claims (this is my opinion)
Ya I think it changed for sure I still watch it but I definitely don't think it's as good as it was. But that's my opinion I also think seasons 1-5 were the best season 4 I believe was that high point for the show but it was still good but the newest seasons just don't compare to me
Season 10 was still good, even though Fiona dint contribute to it. But something about season 11 seems off, it's like the characters aren't shameless anymore. They're more like law abiding citizens of US. The entire story line was ruined because of corona, but still seasons 1-9 literally gave me chills.
Season 11 wasn’t that bad, it was different but I think they made it as they did to end of the show on a lower better note rather than a more chaotic feel
@@vay908 she's not. Explain how they EFFORTLESSLY carried on without her if she's the face. Also you chose another corny character from another overrated series who wasn't the main character. In regards to shameless Carl, Lip, Frank, Debby, Kev and V are more important to driving the story further. All Fiona did was suck dick and cry. Big whoop. The main character of shameless is Frank. Weirdo.
I kind of expected frank to make more. Simply because he is a much more famous actor who is kind of the face of the show. However obviously Fiona is a large character who should have been payed almost as much as frank
Frank is seen as the protagonist (hard to believe) so I wasn’t super surprised he’s paid the highest. But Emmy is also female and we do often get paid less even though she’s a main character.
It’s weird cause I’ve never seen Frank as the main character. Yes he is a major role but to me it’s always been about the kids and Frank has kind of always been the inconvenience that pops up
@@mimi-gs7cw I’m not saying she wasn’t as important as Frank, I’m saying that Emmy does not have the tenure and credentials that William H Macy has. It’d be like a 3 year employee demanding the same salary as a 25+ year employee
I'm rewatching now on Netflix and I completely agree that Emma should have been getting paid more. Honestly the whole consistant Gallagher family should have been making the same amount cause the show was essentially about all their lives.
@@shanedefreitas2378 Fr , her character fell off after a couple of seasons into the show , fucking annoying with her relation ships , would literally skip through her scenes
@@isabelfranco6387 After Monica dies he goes to this Buddhist place where he slowly gets rid of his meth and after he does he comes back home, claims he's been rebirthed into his early 20s and he gets a job and Lumber Lawn and Lighting
I mean, the show ran its course. They were all bound to want out sooner or later. The fact that it lasted as long as it did in this day and age is pretty impressive.
@@VibesHighUp Hugely disagree he was just like Fiona and her family. Before new writers came who hated his character and decided to make him so much worse. Which is a shame when you look back and see how much he went through trying to help Fiona and her family.
I used to love the Shameless series; however, I stopped watching around 2017/2018 because it just started going downhill and wasn't interesting anymore. It was palpable that the writers were running out of steam and were lacking quality ideas for storylines. The series was in its prime during the first four or five seasons and I couldn't get enough of it. My husband and I watched it religiously. It was hysterically funny, but it also had some great drama. Joan Cusack leaving was a huge loss. The series was never the same after she left. She played the Sheila character remarkably well and brought so much humor. As more and more of cast members gradually started leaving the series, it just became incredibly dry and boring. It wasn't holding my attention at all like it used to. I really think that they forced this series to keep going well past its prime. They should have ended while they were on top.
I can’t believe they didn’t bring Sheila Jackson back full time for the final season. I’m not even watching because of that. I BETTER hear that she returns for a final goodbye
@@sam.2566 kinda, but not really. That lady didn’t ever do anything we predictable. I really thought the writers should’ve wrote Frank winning the lottery again. Just when we think we’re getting the typical original Roseanne ending, Sheila returns ( still legally married to Frank ), divorces him, collects all his money, and leaves again. They could’ve done anything with that character.
i like the new mandy too but she just seems so much more mature than the original mandy, it's crazy to think that they were the same age but the first mandy looked like a young teenager who was more immature.
Emmy easily should have been paid the most especially since she was naked so often. She gave vulnerability in so many ways. Also Sheila, Svetlana were soooo missed. I Really wish they all came back in the end.
I grew up in a family not all that different than that. My parents weren't around and spent most of my teens living with my aunt and her kids and it kinda like the wild west there and I could basically do anything I wanted but she cared and she took care of me and was there to pick me up every time I fell down. Fiona reminds me a lot of my aunt Beth
God bless your Aunt Beth for loving you so much, she couldn’t let you go into the system. ❤️ I hope your current life is amazing, and I am am SO glad, your Aunt saved you.
fiona was THE biggest part of the show, yes frank created it but fiona kept it going. she should've gotten higher pay even if it wasn't highest. she had a lot of screentime compared to frank
Maybe they don't put it bc nobody knows the reasons he left 🤔 But yeah, is weird, he left 4 seasons (with some guest appearances) the fandom and show suffered his departure and still they don't say anything about it... Besides, they barely talk about Cameron's departure too
William Macy is the playing the MAIN character, the show focus on him but I agree that Emmy should have been paid more or even equally ... Sad that even nowadays we still stuggle with this issue.
Came across this show just like 7 hours ago and im obsesseeed its literally like 4am rn i cannot stop watching and ofc im only in season 1 but couldnt help myself do some research of this show. Did not know it has so many seasons! Will enjoy this through my summer break
@@crysco2010 yeah, it's like he lost his soul when he left at the end of s3. I know he was always a shady guy but my god, it was way too obvious they wanted the audience to dislike him to justify him leaving for good
People are quick to jump to sexism and inequality when it comes to pay difference without recognizing other factors. In any profession seniority and accolades play a huge role in salary. William H Macy has been acting since before Emmy Rossum was even born and has been nominated for an academy award. It’s not the patriarchy.
He's just a way better actor and the reason a lot of people watched the show. Personally when I saw that an actor like him decided to star on a show, I immediately assumed it was good. That and the crush I had on Emmy Rossum lol. But his presence was what made me interested in actually watching the show.
Fiona was gone by second season of Shameless UK, the fact that they kept Ms.Rossum as a primary character for most of the series should show her importance to the story.
I'm sure that if the actress had wanted to stay, the original Fiona would have stayed as a main character for the whole show as well. It sucked she didn't stay but I really liked the later characters like Paddy and Jamie, it was still good later on, just not as good
I love this show & Fiona is hands down my fave character. I was sad to learn she wasn't coming back but I was happy to know that her story had been told, that she seemed fulfilled in a way
I never liked Kev and Vs role...other than their friendship and support of the Gallaghers and being nar owners, the roles were unnecessary. Sorry to say but the acting was sub par. Sheila brought layers upon layers of intrigue to the show. The only 2 people who kept me interested in the end was Liam and Frank and his best friends rel'p (Luiz Guzman). At this point, Season 10 Guzman leaving...it's like having a great weekend party and then everyone goes home and it's boring and kind of empty. I don't even care if I continue watching. V and Kevin are getting on my nerves...a little overboard.
We loved it when it first came on but as seasons progressed we started losing interest in it. We popped in on season 11 and it is a shell of the former show. The actress playing Debbie is passable but she is no Emmy Rossum. It should have ended when Emmy left.
Emmy Rossum was Freak n awesome. My heart broke regularly understanding how unfair Fiona's life was. Everyday doing the role of Mother & Father, sacrificing herself, her happiness to serve her siblings. Super storyline. Heroic charicters.
Shameless was a very different/better show back in the Steve/Jimmy days. It's still always been really good, and above average compared to a lot of other shows over the years, but the first few season were WAY BETTER.
It went downhill after they write out jimmy steve. In my mind Fiona still ended up with him in the end. That being said they never should have let Emmy leave because after she did I knew the show was doomed. They focused more on Debbie as the lead female character and she was so damn unlikeable. Also, Sheila was the best character for me. Joan cusack was so hilarious
For real, they should have let go of Debbie and given her salary to Emmy as a raise 😂 Debbie was the most insufferable character on that show by far, and she kept on getting worse and worse later on. But I guess in real life the actress who played Debbie got along with the rest of the cast and crew and Emmy didn't
I’ll prob catch hell for saying this but season 11 Shameless US version has so far aired 4 episodes, 2 of which was solely based around the issues going on in the world this last year. I’m sorry but isn’t a tv shows job to make us laugh & escape the worries of the world?? This season is just making us relive that dumpster fire of a year and I personally could do without that. Give us the Shameless we know and love!!
If you pay attention shameless has always given us entertainment as well as touch bases with real world issues. The show is very political and informing. I didn't even know what gentrification was lol
Honestly growing up poor. I can relate to the Gallaghers on a personal level. this show was something different and showed a different dynamic of reality.
I finished it some days ago and boy I need more. Like show us how they live now, it can be a movie or sum shit, doesn’t have to be a whole new season but I don’t want it to end there. I wanna know !spoiler alert! if Lip and Tami r keeping the 2nd child, or if Mickey and Ian get one, they can’t leave us here 😭😭
@@philippebergeron5821 I've rewatched the office multiple times too lol. Shameless is crazy though, I relate to the scenes and characters in it makes the show 10x better
Cameron Monaghan most likely wanted to leave so he could pursue other projects, like Gotham for instance. He also did the mo-cap for a video game in his time off as well, that Star Wars RPG I haven't played yet.
Had no idea everybody is gone. I really wish they ended the show when it was at its peak… they are giving it the walking dead treatment now. Same show , whole different character cast and story lines lol… this show had so much heart in the first 5-6 seasons
I could understand them uping Ian’s actors pay because they already lost the actress who plays Fiona I mean losing two Gallagher’s that people favor? They’d be kinda in trouble
Ya’ll talking about how Fiona should’ve been paid more. William H Macy is a veteran A list actor. As I’m writing this im not sure what Fioanas real name is as, we’ve only ever known her because of shameless. It’s not about Will being a man. It’s about him being the biggest star on the set.
That's what it sounded like, to me. I'm amazed this show has dialog that would've been controversial 10-15 years ago, let alone today. And it's hilarious.
The writing here 0:23 - is it a pun? "Navigated coming out as guy and established a combative, butt-loving relationship with Mickey." Anyone else notice this?
most of the main people like cameron and emmy were unhappy with the creative direction of the show. the reason mickey came back was because that was the only way they were getting cameron back. emmy wanted to do other projects.
Cameron (Ian) decided to leave because he felt like they used up all the storylines for Ian. He didn’t like how the character was going, so he wanted to leave. They brought back Noel (Mickey) to try and prevent Cameron from leaving permanently, and he came back
Wow! Yeah not getting paid enough can definitely be a deal breaker. Loved the show. It came at a really weird dark time in my life. Thanks Shameless 🌹. Bravo! 👍 Well done. You’re already missed.
I would have paid Emmy more, too. Maybe not the first season, because William Macy was the bigger name and played a central character, but Emmy gradually became the strongest force on the show until at least season 6.
Which Shameless characters would you like to see come back?
Sheila and Karen, I want them back
Fiona DEFINITELY deserved that raise
@@LovetheLuvRecords svetlana or Fiona
I'd like to see Svetlana and Sheila come back for sure.
Svetlana and Mandy
Lmao why y’all act like Fiona didn’t deserve to get paid more? Frank was a heck of an actor but Fiona played her role so well
fr and frank kinda became an exhausting character to watch at times as well
She did deserve to get more but you have to say frank did good. He has to act like a narcissistic drunk guy
Her and William h Macy should’ve gotten the same pay since they are the two leads. She shouldn’t get more and he shouldn’t.
Uh...cause she’s a female lol
Exactky. She’s amazing
You're telling me the main character and heart of the show did not get the highest pay?!?
Franks the main character in my mind.
@@Mac-po1sr frank is the main character of the show
Fiona needs about ten more pounds of makeup
@@Tsukune2001 lmao ok stewart 💀
@@Mac-po1sr Frank's stories are always B plots in all the episodes it's Fiona's struggles to keep the family and herself afloat that take up center stage and all the time too
Fiona and Ian should have been paid more, they both played their role so well
and Noel omg!!
@@hhhhhgvv6820 Ian is a character the actor Cameron Monahan should have been payed more
@@hhhhhgvv6820 no that doesn’t even make any sense at all
@@hhhhhgvv6820 that’s simply not true he has the most interesting story from the show he was struggling with his sexuality wanting to be in the army being bipolar he wasn’t Frank’s son he had a criminal boyfriend etc. he was by far the most interesting character
@@hhhhhgvv6820 Carl was not interesting and frank did the same thing the entire show
i wish they didn't act like fiona didn't exist...at least have em act like she's on phone once in awhile..sumone so close to family wldnt just turn back on em ffs
Right because right after Emmy left they pretty much never talk about Fiona in the show they mentioned her a couple times but when do you ever see them on the phone pretending to be on the phone with her or something else it’s like they completely forgot about her but I’m really hoping that Emmy does return for the season finale of the show
It’s weird, right? For her to have done so much for them and to have such a big part, you’d think she’d get mentioned. Even V, her best friend, doesn’t talk about her.
its so freaking weird
I was hoping she’d have at least called Ian on his wedding, after their goodbye scene I thought it was a lock for her to have at least sent him a card
They mad at her that's why shameless was done on season 7
Sheila was deadass my favorite character 🥺 her leaving and never coming back killed me
Same boo
Sheila was a good natured airhead.
Yes she was hilarious!!!
she never comes back 💔😩
annoying af glad she left
i miss mandy, jimmy, fiona, sheila and svetlana so much 😭
I rlly miss mandy
Ha jimmy
justice for mandy !! she deserved better
i found out that the original girl who played mandy(like in the very early seasons) was uncomfortable with where her character was going and quit which is why we see a new actress later on in the show
@@balencii326 i wonderd why mandy looked so strange suddenly now it makes sense
the fact that most of the stars left because of issues with pay or the show runners posed me off so much. these characters are so strong and they deserve to be kept on the show, especially fiona, ian, mickey and the other characters.
Ye, Fiona, Ian, and mickey were the people I always looked to, mostly the relationships between them
exactly fiona especially she's literally the heart of the show she's the main character keeping the family together as she always has
yes. exactly this
I think secretly they left not because if pay. But because the writers subjected them to constant political and social diatribes they may it have agreed with. They absolutely ruined the last 2 seasons with the every other line jab at politics. But alas, Hollywood believes they hold a superior candle to everyone else, and they think the peasants are just dying to hear their opinions.
@@CharlieDexter99 that was the reality of America then. They needed to bring up politics
Ian & Micky carried the last 2 seasons on their backs... they deserve credit for that.
lip too even tho he annoyed me with the way he treated fiona 🥲
Frank, Kevin, Ian and Micky...Micky overtook Kevin as the funniest character imo, obviously the writers made that happen, considering Micky was pretty unlikable for the most part up until the last few seasons.
@@mhr31301 nah she deserved it in her last season
@@Beast-mf7br i liked mickey the whole way thru the show
@@wolfeevi true, but they really stepped him up in the last few seasons
If u remember who Ethel was then ur elite, she never came back 😢
I miss herrrr
i miss her☹️☹️
She was weird imo
@@t3kkk_ well she was a cult survivor so...
she was a victim
Emma not being a multiple Emmy winner for shameless is criminal
Agreed!
Same with the majority of actors/actress of the show.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@rustybucket5465 someone needs Attention… ok guy
@@MrRogerjowens HOW DOES HE NEEDS ATTENTION?
Out of all the Gallaghers Lip was the most interesting. From being the family genius to struggling with alcoholism. He was literally on his way to becoming his father.
i wish they went with that story line in the future seasons, lip turning up like frank would be “shameless”
@@piplupxpp i’m glad they didn’t go that way, frank used to be a genius just like lip but ended up the wrong way. lip was so close to becoming exactly like frank. i feel like lip is who frank could’ve been
@キラー i love carl so much but when he did the renegade in season 11.. 💀💀 wtf were the writers thinking lmfao
Instead Debbie has become more frank like minus alcoholism
@@monetmonroe4644 how? debbie loved franny more than frank loved any of his kids
We can all agree as long as sami doesn’t comeback we are good
foreal
And karen
@@malikaaamayenge1357 if she came back I wouldn’t mind cuz of her accident she’s different now
@@Yehoyoshi doesn't make her a saint
I like Sammi. I liked Karen too.
I loved Svetlana and the dynamic she brought to the show. Not to mention, Fiona- but sorry to hear she wasn’t be compensated as well as her other costars.
I wouldn’t pay her as much as William H. Macy. The dude is a legend and has earned his pay. Emmy was great but she was a relative newcomer.
@@GoldenStateOfMind831 You're the only smart person here.
She reminded me of Angelica Huston 😊
they ruined Svetlana's character when they turned her into a math genius all the sudden like it just came out of nowhere?
Cook clean wifely duty is now a part of my life
Emmy deserved to get paid more and honestly they should of just done that William Is amazing but Fiona had a lot more screen time
Willam was a bigger star before shameless got made and thats why he got paid more and emma got turned into a big star because of the show
@@CheGuevara-uf4pm yeah but these kids don’t seem to understand that 😭
@@AshAce y'all disgust me
this show had low ratings - why pay people more when the show was losing vierwship - it also wasnt strong enough to compete at awards
@@AshAceI’m literally quitting watching season 10 and 11 after finding out Fiona’s character isn’t going to be on. She deserved way more pay
Emmy also had stated in an interview that she wished Fiona would've gotten her happily ever after, but they always gave her "happy" but never "ever after"
the show changed when fiona, mandy, karen, jimmy, and sheila left. they have to come back for the finale
I absolutely hated Karen and her storyline she's a absolutely great actress I just hated her storyline with lip when I watch those seasons I just skip those parts lol there's only 2 times I do that in this show that storyline and the whole Debbie wanting a baby and her obsession with Derek I can't stand that either but other then that I agree Mandy was excellent I liked Jimmy to Sheila was great as well
She totally failed her responsibility with being the legal guardian, poor little Liam was her responsibility! And left without saying goodbye to him. Pos for sure
They’re listed as IMDb as being in the final episode
At least Mandy. I don't like that new milkovich girl as much as I liked Mandy.
@@isabelfranco6387 agreed for sure
fiona leaving was really sad but (to me) shameless is a good show and will always be fun to watch no matter what happens. And everyone is saying that shameless changed a lot but i just don't see it, It's still the same funny, emotional, chaotic shameless to me.
She was the the second center to the show..after she left..it wasn't the same.. she is beautiful..and her character was unmatched..but they were butchering her character before she left
@@thethinkingmansgame5050 she was my fav character and will forever be my fav but still the show isn't bad now like everyone claims (this is my opinion)
She produced many of the episodes. She helped produce how her characters portrayal. In her eyes it wasn’t butchered.
Ya I think it changed for sure I still watch it but I definitely don't think it's as good as it was. But that's my opinion I also think seasons 1-5 were the best season 4 I believe was that high point for the show but it was still good but the newest seasons just don't compare to me
Idk why, but by the the time Deb was pregnant and finally had her baby something changed. Idk what...
Season 10 was still good, even though Fiona dint contribute to it. But something about season 11 seems off, it's like the characters aren't shameless anymore. They're more like law abiding citizens of US. The entire story line was ruined because of corona, but still seasons 1-9 literally gave me chills.
They’re gentrified now
i feel like season 10 was good because of ian and mickey getting married and how it brought the family together. Season 11 is complete shit.
I can't stomach seeing them wear masks on and off throughout the show. I can't even escape reality in entertainment now. So I stopped watching
Season 11 wasn’t that bad, it was different but I think they made it as they did to end of the show on a lower better note rather than a more chaotic feel
dude lip robbed the shop
For how many times Fiona was naked on Shameless and how well she played her role she basically carried the show
Yeah for jumping from 🍆 to 🍆😂
🧢. Nobody watched shameless for her
@@otisjenkinsjr.3556She’s the face of shameless. The Danaerys to Shameless. Cry.
@@vay908 she's not. Explain how they EFFORTLESSLY carried on without her if she's the face.
Also you chose another corny character from another overrated series who wasn't the main character.
In regards to shameless Carl, Lip, Frank, Debby, Kev and V are more important to driving the story further. All Fiona did was suck dick and cry. Big whoop.
The main character of shameless is Frank. Weirdo.
@@vay908 if she has to take her clothes off multiple times a season, she's not the lead honey. 😂😂😂😂
Cope. I swear women are so effing stupid.
I miss Sheila and frank scenes together so much 😭
Agreed. Sheila gave frank a purpose
Sheila was good for him
lmao her crazy ass
Its called shameless franks the best at that lol
i miss sheila in general so much, but her scenes with frank were so funny lmao
Bring back Joan Cusack. Her unique energy brought a delightful added appeal to the show.
it's true. After she left the show was never the same
I assumed Emmy would get the highest pay?
I kind of expected frank to make more. Simply because he is a much more famous actor who is kind of the face of the show. However obviously Fiona is a large character who should have been payed almost as much as frank
Frank is seen as the protagonist (hard to believe) so I wasn’t super surprised he’s paid the highest. But Emmy is also female and we do often get paid less even though she’s a main character.
@@courtneymichelle5746 he’s the protagonist??
William h Macy gets nominated for an Emmy almost every year for the role of Frank. so ig it makes sense that he gets paid more
It’s weird cause I’ve never seen Frank as the main character. Yes he is a major role but to me it’s always been about the kids and Frank has kind of always been the inconvenience that pops up
All the characters that carry that show end up leaving it’s upsetting
Except Frank and Ian, but yeah. Fiona leaving is especially awful
Not you pretending Lip frank Mickey kev and v are gone
Emmy Rossum definitely deserved to be paid comparable to her male co-stars.
She does not have the seniority that William H Macy has in the business. She was still the second highest paid actor in the show
@@jakeraught4939 people throughout the season watched the show more for her than frank. She also had 10 years of experience of a hit show
@@jakeraught4939 actress* and people stopped watching after she left the show so she was obviously just as important as frank.
@@mimi-gs7cw I’m not saying she wasn’t as important as Frank, I’m saying that Emmy does not have the tenure and credentials that William H Macy has. It’d be like a 3 year employee demanding the same salary as a 25+ year employee
@@johanaalmendarez6580 William H Macy also had 10 years experience on the show plus an additional 25+ outside the show
the fact emmy didn’t get awards for her acting on shameless is a crime in itself
She didn't do ANYTHING special
@@otisjenkinsjr.3556she was one of the best actors on the shows
@@otisjenkinsjr.3556she did though
@@Itswidoe not at all.
@@otisjenkinsjr.3556 yes she did
I'm rewatching now on Netflix and I completely agree that Emma should have been getting paid more. Honestly the whole consistant Gallagher family should have been making the same amount cause the show was essentially about all their lives.
fiona deserved to be payed more 100%
Na she was annoying cbf with another one of her relationship's
@@shanedefreitas2378 Fr , her character fell off after a couple of seasons into the show , fucking annoying with her relation ships , would literally skip through her scenes
It’s kinda fitting. Her and her character never got the appreciation they deserved.
I liked this show. I was always amazed at how poor they were, but could always come up with $10,000.00 if they ever needed it. LOL
right they always found a way to get the money no matter how much
Fiona was arguably the main character, shame she wasn't appreciated by the studio.
She was appreciated. Greed just got the better of her. And Frank was the main character. The show was still pretty good without Fiona.
@@cake58879 frank was never the main character.
@@oaschloch7567 yes he was
@@cake58879 you're in denial
@@tink6225 No
Sometimes I watch shameless again to appreciate the blessings I have in life and to humble myself...
Nothing was the same after Sheila left.
Agree. I was relieved when Fiona left
Fr
Top 3 moments in shameless,
Ian comes back with Mickey in prison
When Frank becomes a normal member of society
Carl selling guns at school
When did Frank do that???
@@isabelfranco6387 I think when Monica does but don't quote me on that
@@isabelfranco6387 After Monica dies he goes to this Buddhist place where he slowly gets rid of his meth and after he does he comes back home, claims he's been rebirthed into his early 20s and he gets a job and Lumber Lawn and Lighting
Too bad he went back to being a shit ass
Best scene was when the black principal tells carl "I want a glock"
I mean, the show ran its course. They were all bound to want out sooner or later. The fact that it lasted as long as it did in this day and age is pretty impressive.
I hoped for several more seasons, truly sad that it had to stop. First 5 seasons, was absolutely riveting acting and extremely entertaining well done
I miss both mandy and jimmy i hope we see them again in this season
I am completely fine never seeing Jimmy Steve Jack again. He was so annoying
@@VibesHighUp Hugely disagree he was just like Fiona and her family. Before new writers came who hated his character and decided to make him so much worse. Which is a shame when you look back and see how much he went through trying to help Fiona and her family.
I used to love the Shameless series; however, I stopped watching around 2017/2018 because it just started going downhill and wasn't interesting anymore. It was palpable that the writers were running out of steam and were lacking quality ideas for storylines. The series was in its prime during the first four or five seasons and I couldn't get enough of it. My husband and I watched it religiously. It was hysterically funny, but it also had some great drama. Joan Cusack leaving was a huge loss. The series was never the same after she left. She played the Sheila character remarkably well and brought so much humor. As more and more of cast members gradually started leaving the series, it just became incredibly dry and boring. It wasn't holding my attention at all like it used to. I really think that they forced this series to keep going well past its prime. They should have ended while they were on top.
I can’t believe they didn’t bring Sheila Jackson back full time for the final season. I’m not even watching because of that. I BETTER hear that she returns for a final goodbye
i mean for her character it makes perfect sense she would never return
@@sam.2566 kinda, but not really. That lady didn’t ever do anything we predictable. I really thought the writers should’ve wrote Frank winning the lottery again. Just when we think we’re getting the typical original Roseanne ending, Sheila returns ( still legally married to Frank ), divorces him, collects all his money, and leaves again. They could’ve done anything with that character.
@@SnowWhiteTheU2 Thats a good point, they could have done that and it probably would have been an epic season
gonna be honest when the first mandy left (season1) I was kinda pissed
I'm still pissed lol.
Mandy was the only gf he had that was trying to help him do right and pursue his education and career path. She was great 👏
Yeah she was bomb af
Yea I always thought the replacement looked pretty gross
i like the new mandy too but she just seems so much more mature than the original mandy, it's crazy to think that they were the same age but the first mandy looked like a young teenager who was more immature.
Emmy easily should have been paid the most especially since she was naked so often. She gave vulnerability in so many ways. Also Sheila, Svetlana were soooo missed. I Really wish they all came back in the end.
Technically Ian isn't Frank's.
I grew up in a family not all that different than that. My parents weren't around and spent most of my teens living with my aunt and her kids and it kinda like the wild west there and I could basically do anything I wanted but she cared and she took care of me and was there to pick me up every time I fell down. Fiona reminds me a lot of my aunt Beth
God bless your Aunt Beth for loving you so much, she couldn’t let you go into the system. ❤️ I hope your current life is amazing, and I am am SO glad, your Aunt saved you.
fiona was THE biggest part of the show, yes frank created it but fiona kept it going. she should've gotten higher pay even if it wasn't highest. she had a lot of screentime compared to frank
You should have mention Noel Fisher and his departure after season 5.
YEAH.
he did come back 2/3 times after that though 😅
Maybe they don't put it bc nobody knows the reasons he left 🤔
But yeah, is weird, he left 4 seasons (with some guest appearances) the fandom and show suffered his departure and still they don't say anything about it...
Besides, they barely talk about Cameron's departure too
And Mandy!
It's crazy to realize how sad the ending of this show was for me.i started re watching it last night and almost couldn't... 😩
Fiona aka Emmy should have been paid the most. She carried that show. Too bad the producers couldn’t recognize that
tied with frank, frank was at the same level as emmy but they were different characters
William Macy is the playing the MAIN character, the show focus on him but I agree that Emmy should have been paid more or even equally ... Sad that even nowadays we still stuggle with this issue.
PAY. WOMEN. WHAT. THEY. ARE. WORTH.
stfu
@@analbeads3846 move
@@analbeads3846 Um no, you stfu.
Honestly I just really want to know what happened with Ethel she was my favorite storyline by far.
sameee like where did she go off to
I loved her 😭
I love that they gave Fiona’s character closure but she was my fav ❤️I wish she would’ve stayed to the series finale 😩
Came across this show just like 7 hours ago and im obsesseeed its literally like 4am rn i cannot stop watching and ofc im only in season 1 but couldnt help myself do some research of this show. Did not know it has so many seasons! Will enjoy this through my summer break
I wanted Fiona and Steve to end up together and happy.
ME TOO
Hated how the writers changed his character when he came back im n season 5.
@@crysco2010 yeah, it's like he lost his soul when he left at the end of s3. I know he was always a shady guy but my god, it was way too obvious they wanted the audience to dislike him to justify him leaving for good
for real i was hoping he would come back when fiona was drinking and having that breakdown
I hated Steve. I'm glad he left & didn't end up with her
I still wish Emmy would’ve at least popped in for season 11
i heard that she was supposed to but she was pregnant and at high risk for covid so it was too dangerous to film togther
Fiona and ian are the reasons i watch this series
And Mickey, Carl, and Liam
yep me too, gallavich carried the show for me, they deserved so much more screen time!
Ian and Mickey for me. Fiona's relationships got old pretty fast.
People are quick to jump to sexism and inequality when it comes to pay difference without recognizing other factors. In any profession seniority and accolades play a huge role in salary. William H Macy has been acting since before Emmy Rossum was even born and has been nominated for an academy award. It’s not the patriarchy.
He's just a way better actor and the reason a lot of people watched the show. Personally when I saw that an actor like him decided to star on a show, I immediately assumed it was good. That and the crush I had on Emmy Rossum lol. But his presence was what made me interested in actually watching the show.
I hope she's back for the finale at least
Fiona was gone by second season of Shameless UK, the fact that they kept Ms.Rossum as a primary character for most of the series should show her importance to the story.
I'm sure that if the actress had wanted to stay, the original Fiona would have stayed as a main character for the whole show as well. It sucked she didn't stay but I really liked the later characters like Paddy and Jamie, it was still good later on, just not as good
I love this show & Fiona is hands down my fave character. I was sad to learn she wasn't coming back but I was happy to know that her story had been told, that she seemed fulfilled in a way
“Combative butt loving relationship with Mickey” lmao 🤣
I'm hoping everyone is back for the final episode! I'm going to miss the Gallagher's Family, Kev and V.. and hanging out at the Alibi.
I never liked Kev and Vs role...other than their friendship and support of the Gallaghers and being nar owners, the roles were unnecessary. Sorry to say but the acting was sub par.
Sheila brought layers upon layers of intrigue to the show. The only 2 people who kept me interested in the end was Liam and Frank and his best friends rel'p (Luiz Guzman). At this point, Season 10 Guzman leaving...it's like having a great weekend party and then everyone goes home and it's boring and kind of empty.
I don't even care if I continue watching.
V and Kevin are getting on my nerves...a little overboard.
We loved it when it first came on but as seasons progressed we started losing interest in it. We popped in on season 11 and it is a shell of the former show. The actress playing Debbie is passable but she is no Emmy Rossum. It should have ended when Emmy left.
Emmy Rossum was Freak n awesome. My heart broke regularly understanding how unfair Fiona's life was. Everyday doing the role of Mother & Father, sacrificing herself, her happiness to serve her siblings.
Super storyline. Heroic charicters.
Shameless was a very different/better show back in the Steve/Jimmy days. It's still always been really good, and above average compared to a lot of other shows over the years, but the first few season were WAY BETTER.
tbh I miss sheila the most she always made me laugh
Sheila was such a good mom with a undeserved daughter
I would have loved to see the original cast grow together
Emmy Rossum is the whole reason I started watching Shameless
It went downhill after they write out jimmy steve. In my mind Fiona still ended up with him in the end. That being said they never should have let Emmy leave because after she did I knew the show was doomed. They focused more on Debbie as the lead female character and she was so damn unlikeable. Also, Sheila was the best character for me. Joan cusack was so hilarious
For real, they should have let go of Debbie and given her salary to Emmy as a raise 😂 Debbie was the most insufferable character on that show by far, and she kept on getting worse and worse later on.
But I guess in real life the actress who played Debbie got along with the rest of the cast and crew and Emmy didn't
I’ll prob catch hell for saying this but season 11 Shameless US version has so far aired 4 episodes, 2 of which was solely based around the issues going on in the world this last year.
I’m sorry but isn’t a tv shows job to make us laugh & escape the worries of the world?? This season is just making us relive that dumpster fire of a year and I personally could do without that. Give us the Shameless we know and love!!
They have nothing left creatively for the show, so they are just copying whatever is going on in reality.
@@Commenter5651 clearly with the cheap shit clipshows
i agree but it gets better near the end in my opinion
If you pay attention shameless has always given us entertainment as well as touch bases with real world issues. The show is very political and informing. I didn't even know what gentrification was lol
I miss these characters
Honestly growing up poor. I can relate to the Gallaghers on a personal level. this show was something different and showed a different dynamic of reality.
What wasn't mentioned was that Rossum was disliked by all the other actors on the series and were relieved she left.
If the writers see this please bring this show back life has not been the same without it
I finished it some days ago and boy I need more. Like show us how they live now, it can be a movie or sum shit, doesn’t have to be a whole new season but I don’t want it to end there. I wanna know !spoiler alert! if Lip and Tami r keeping the 2nd child, or if Mickey and Ian get one, they can’t leave us here 😭😭
@@bowiesstarman_ Maybe a Gallavich spin-off 👀
Needa get the uk version on the go, it's a million times better
@@philippebergeron5821 I've rewatched the office multiple times too lol. Shameless is crazy though, I relate to the scenes and characters in it makes the show 10x better
This show DIED when Fiona left.
Although to me it hasn't died, because i still watch, it's definitely in an induced coma.
It hasn’t
@@ellexo0988 agree. Sure, numbers down since, but not dead.
it died when it became a comedy around season 7/8
@@LVRROCK I thought it was always a comedy?
Cameron Monaghan most likely wanted to leave so he could pursue other projects, like Gotham for instance. He also did the mo-cap for a video game in his time off as well, that Star Wars RPG I haven't played yet.
everything must end at some point
Taxes
Period.
Had no idea everybody is gone. I really wish they ended the show when it was at its peak… they are giving it the walking dead treatment now. Same show , whole different character cast and story lines lol… this show had so much heart in the first 5-6 seasons
"established a combative, butt-loving relationship with Mickey" hahaha
I could understand them uping Ian’s actors pay because they already lost the actress who plays Fiona I mean losing two Gallagher’s that people favor? They’d be kinda in trouble
The leaving of Karen and Sheila is the reason why I stopped watching the show
Karen sucked
@@AlmightyCpj whaaat why do you think so
I always thought karen n sheila would come back, I was so disappointed
I was sad about Sheila
@@wickednights3793 did you not watch season 2?
Emmy rossum was an amazing actor and literally the star of the show. They should have paid her whenever and however much she wanted like wtf?
0:22 for a sec, I thought the narrator said "butt-loving relationship"...perfect line
I heard it too 😭😭
Ya’ll talking about how Fiona should’ve been paid more. William H Macy is a veteran A list actor. As I’m writing this im not sure what Fioanas real name is as, we’ve only ever known her because of shameless. It’s not about Will being a man. It’s about him being the biggest star on the set.
A combative butt loving relationship with mickey 😂
That's what it sounded like, to me. I'm amazed this show has dialog that would've been controversial 10-15 years ago, let alone today. And it's hilarious.
We love our power bottom Mickey
The fact that frank did not have a funeral made me mad and that Fiona didn’t show up at the end
sheila, mandy, & karen really added flavour to it. i miss sheila so much & im only up to mid season 5 just after she left.
The writing here 0:23 - is it a pun? "Navigated coming out as guy and established a combative, butt-loving relationship with Mickey." Anyone else notice this?
fiona was the entire show
No
As shitty as Frank was as a father it still hurt me that he died the way he did. I really wish Fiona was apart of the season finale.
Idk about you guys but every single episode of shameless is good. Like all of them. Even without Fiona, the show handles itself really well.
I just finished the show and I forgot about Sheila but I loved her character so much lmaooo she was one of the funniest characters to me
i’ll forever miss svetlana and shiela, they truly were the highlights of the entire series in my opinion
I'm just glad it'll finally be over. The last couple of seasons have been garbage!
....so, it's all about money.
well it is a job so
most of the main people like cameron and emmy were unhappy with the creative direction of the show. the reason mickey came back was because that was the only way they were getting cameron back. emmy wanted to do other projects.
Cameron (Ian) decided to leave because he felt like they used up all the storylines for Ian. He didn’t like how the character was going, so he wanted to leave. They brought back Noel (Mickey) to try and prevent Cameron from leaving permanently, and he came back
That show has been on since the beginning of time.
Naw dude, that would be Grey’s Anatomy
Wow! Yeah not getting paid enough can definitely be a deal breaker. Loved the show. It came at a really weird dark time in my life. Thanks Shameless 🌹. Bravo! 👍 Well done. You’re already missed.
I miss that show, in some twisted way it’s like a comfort show for me and I was always excited when I saw there was a new season
I wanna know what happened with sheila, karen and jodie but that might not happen :(
I miss this show period hope they have some kind of spinoff or something
First comment .... 🤩🤩 Miss Ian a lot
i was the first comment-
He’s also back
? Z. XSS. C. Z czcgc.
I'm second!
So you haven't watched recently.
I would have paid Emmy more, too. Maybe not the first season, because William Macy was the bigger name and played a central character, but Emmy gradually became the strongest force on the show until at least season 6.
i want mandy to come back
Oh yes and kick Tammy’s ass