Why the NEW Roland Juno-D Might Be Better Than the Fantom-06!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The Roland Juno-D is here! In this video, I, Khordmaster, break down the latest features of the newly announced Roland Juno-D and compare it head-to-head with the Roland Fantom-06. From sound quality to user interface and performance capabilities, I’ll share my thoughts on which synth might be better suited for different musicians.
I’ll take you through a deep dive into the key specs of the Juno-D and see how it stacks up against Roland’s Fantom-06, helping you make an informed choice if you’re considering purchasing either. Whether you’re into production, live performance, or composing, this video will give you everything you need to know! 🎹💥
Topics covered:
• Key features of the Roland Juno-D
• How the Juno-D compares to the Fantom-06
• Pros and cons of each synth for music producers and performers
• Why the Juno-D might be the better choice for you
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Roland would have gotten roasted to death if they released an EX 0 version.
Watching your video... Wanted to ask this. If you have to bring a speaker that will need real power, what is the real benefit of having a keyboard that doesn't require it. Since you will need a power drop anyway?
I don’t know. Seems like Roland keeps slicing the same bread thinner and thinner. Fantom EX, Fantom O, Juno X, and Juno D, JU-06A, and Cloud all capable of covering the Juno sound space. Seems like they are afraid of doing something new that isn’t old. How do you want your Juno.
Enough with trying to figure out how many times you can cycle through the same sounds. They are doing the same to some extent with Jupiter.
I feel you on this. The new and exciting aspects with this lie in its usb c capabilities for me personally. But I def hear you!
You know this is clearly a successor for juno ds series. Do you really want them to not update their products? Do you want them to keep selling juno ds with bad screen and keys for the next 50 years, or do you want them to keep their product lineup modern?
@@cirisirpula152 I think what he is saying is that they all sound the same with the exact same engine. The only differences are in name.
Before you buy this first find out the truth about polyphony on this. The Fantom range was advertised as 256 but in real terms that is no where near the amount. Filter slopes, partials(oscillators), sustain pedal, etc fast run out and drop voices even from the piano sound. Roland are very deceitful with their marketing in these new boards. Beware folks, beware.
Where in the world did you see that the fantom was advertised as having 256 voices of polyphony? I've never ever heard that before.
@@JuliusDeBerryJr have you looked? Search for: FANTOM EX: Maximum Polyphony
I can have a drum kit, a Zen Core tone and a SN Piano and it drops voices and frequently it cuts out completely then starts again.
The class compliance is one of the biggest selling point on the Juno-d. I have a Jupiter Xm. I wish it had class compliant audio. It would be the perfect mobile solution with iPad. Juno D is ticking some of those boxes but I’d like to hear what the real polyphony is and test the keybed on the 76 and 88 key versions.
so the keybed is the same as the fantom 07 / 08 ... which I think i mention in here how the 06 I liked but the 08 not so much. but yeah I agree... Im surprised so many boards Ive tested DONT have class compliancy... for the iPad purpose you mentioned plus being able to use with my iPhone to record content etc. would make things so much easier
I have the Juno Ds-61 and it's served me well for years. An updated version sounds epic, I probably won't upgrade bc I'm saving up for a Teo 5 but maybe someday.
nice, I've used the DS61 for a bit and really enjoyed it and it's simplicity. Right now I am really considering what a D61 (or 88) would look like for me as a replacement for the fantom EX 6 and novation launchkey 49 mk3 (that is sorta just sitting around, not being used)
Thank you for acknowledging that the Fantom is heavy!!! I have the flagship Fantom myself I don’t carry it out as much as I want to because it’s heavy!!! I use my FA as my aux board!!! I do want the Juno D 6 for my aux or third aux!!! My deal breaker would be how to transition patches!!! Btw I’m thinking about buying the Kronos first but it will be the same issue as the Fantom I heard its heavy too!!!also I would use it for small rehearsals it has the inessentials!!!!
transition patches from fantom / FA to the juno? thats a good question! im really curious now about this juno D61. I may reach out to Zzounds to see if I can get one on loan
The class compliant USB for audio/MIDI on the Juno D really caught my eye. I'd prefer the linear sequencer of the FA-06. The Fantom-06 has a pattern sequencer and is not class compliant and the Juno D has no sequencer to speak of, but is class compliant. I think I could get along with a Juno D and an iPad sequencer like Logic or Cubasis, and have two-way audio and MIDI. I'd treat the iPad as a large touch screen on the Juno D. (Oh, by the way, the Yamaha Moxf6 has a class compliant USB B interface for audio and MIDI in the final firmware.)
interesting, I am sure the Juno D has some type of pattern sequencer or something in there. I thought I saw it in a video. for sure it does because the TR Rec buttons are there
@@Khordmaster Yes, it has a very simple, cut down sequencer. Otherwise, it's got the Zencore engine, which is not bad.
My man just use a denoiser or something so so so so easy to fix in post hahaha I couldn't do it this hurts.
haha man!!! sorry bout that lol. maybe ill learn how to use one and re upload it for you (not being sarcastic). I'm using a new video editing software so always trying to learn new things with it when the need arises and that's exactly what happened here. thanks for the comment bro!
I'm watching this on a TV with cheap Presonus studio monitors. I'm about 8-10 feet from speakers and I could barely hear any noise. If not that warning before the video, I would not even notice any noise.
@@FirstLast-nr6gf two different ends of the spectrum literally and figuratively lol… how was the video overall? Did you enjoy it?
Juno ds supported multisampling but this does not as of now may be in future they will add or not we don't know.....how much memory this has for sampling and expansions installation? If you know kindly answer .....Roland is always hiding information about their bottom end instruments...
Interesting about the multi sampling… a comprehensive list of differences between this and the Fantom 08 and the Juno DS would be very beneficial
@@Khordmaster yep but I saw the parameters guide of Juno d and there they have already mentioned sample as well as multisample (as oscillator source) which means that they will enable it's multisampling capability through an update but I hope they have increased the rom from 64 mb which was very much less in Juno ds
I also want to know how much memory for sampling in new Juno D6@@fahimdawer
Hi may i know, if this juno d8 can do everything that juno ds88 can? But with extra features like zencore sound engine isit? Overall is juno d8 better than the ds88?
Good question … see my response to the person who commented about multi sampling below
I have a Roland ds61 this is about the same board.
Not sure how I feel about this. I have a Juno X and bought it since I previously owned a Juno 106. Not sure if this new rig should have the Juno name. Maybe I’m just old school or just stubborn. Seems like it’s a new breed and should have it’s own unique product name. The Fantom O series was still a Fantom (but stripped). This Juno looks like a totally new product.
yeah I kinda agree... I don't have a full understanding/appreciation of all the history but knowing that the Juno (like the model ex on the fantom) is a full fledged vintage synth, this seems like a totally different product!
Juno 106 from synth spa here talk about a super saw
Juno is just Roland's name for it's more economically priced, stripped down keyboards. The Juno 106 was a response to the more expensive Jupiter 8. It's not based on the soundset or features specifically. And theyve has digital rompler juno keyboards for 20 years.
@@jaredpsloan I hear you but… The Juno has its “special place” in synth history. The Juno 106 is no where near the Jupiter. However, it has its place in history and/or user base. Your argument is valid however, the Juno name is somewhat special - just like the Jupiter, Fairlight, DX7, Emu II, D50, etc. I sorta feel its like Lamborghini selling a VW bug with a Lamborghini badge.
I friend of mine had to return 3 Fantom06’s because they where bent like a banana. The build quality here could be similar, just be aware of it.
Damn that’s bad. Did he go for a 4th and was it okay?
There is similar keyboard from Yamaha - CK61. It doesn't have a sequencer or drum sounds, but it has real organ drawbars. CK61 has speakers and runs on batteries. I've also heard about Roland polyphony issues and hidden costs on some keyboards. I think on RD-8 you have to pay $200 to unlock audio over USB.
I have Yamaha MODX 7 and thinking about buying more portable keyboard with simpler user interface.
Can't you try drum pattern ideas on an iPad if you don't want to use a computer?
I used to use my MODX6 for bread & butter sounds for gig but replaced with CK61....Just easy and lightweight
def but I really prefer and appreciate not having to connect things together to do things I want to do on one board. my personal preference! I certainly have used an iPad / Pro in such a config in the past though!
Do not get the six get the the eight if you're a gigging musician why would you get the six I have the o8 and flagship eight
6 is smaller and lighter. easier to move around. and the keybed on the fantom08 (which is the same as this) left a lot to be desired from my recollection
It’s the same as the Juno ds. Literally the same buttons and sounds. It just adds crappy zen core sounds.
Are you sure it also has all the sounds from the DS as well along with zen core sounds?
incorrect, class compliant USB C port and TR rec for sequencing are 2 differences that caught my eye right away. maybe more
Fantom-06 does give you some SuperNatural sounds and the Virtual Tonewheel organ. Plus you can expand with the vintage models. So…definitely some other advantages, but at a cost!
Or you could spend the same as a Fantom-06 and get Korg Nautilus 61 and really be in another league.
Have a MODX, Nord 5D, Roland FA06 and Nautilus 61.. I hardly use the Nautilus...To heavy to gig with and way more complicated and menu diving. Been giging with the Nord on bottom and Yamaha CK61 on top. Really like allot of the newer sounds on this model though