'Furiosa' ... Another Feminine Flop?
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
- "Furiosa" has the lowest box office numbers in 30 years ... how is that even possible? It barely beat out "The Garfield Movie." This is why we need to stop forcing female lead roles into male-written stories.
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Comparing Furiosa to Barbie is silly. Mad Max is a franchise targeted to men, Barbie to women. If instead of Barbie, they made Ken: a Barbie Saga that didn't even have Barbie in it, it would bomb.
Ken: A Barbie Saga would be a more tolerable movie than Barbie.
Who was fury road targeted to???
@@danielm8859It was 72% male, so nerds without girlfriends. They probably dressed up and everything.☕😐
I think it would actually be a hit if Ryan Gosling was in it
I’m gonna see it because Rich Evans said it was aight.
I cannot suspend disbelief enough to believe that 100 pound women can be action stars.
The very reason I couldn't watch Atomic Blonde.
@@KlavieralterAtomic Blond is actually very resourceful at the female action scene.
In Furiosa, she gets her backside kicked for 99% of the film. So not really an action star but a survivor in the film.
@@raymondsmith6870 Garbage. I have seen the film. She is a classic Mary Sue.
@@StimParavane
Actually incorrect. Let's go down the list. She is taken prisoner in the first part of the film, then sold into slavery to another warlord, does grunt work for years in The Citadel, then is mentored as a driver by Praetorian Jack for probably more years. She has survivor skills which are similar any tribal person living in a low tech society at the beginning and then is completely changed into another person by her experiences and training with the warlords. There is a real arc and progression even the reviewers on the wokephobic Film Threat commented how she is not a mary sue.
That modern audience never seems to show up.
If Terminator 2 or Alien/Aliens came out today in 2024 I wouldn't go see them assuming that they would just be woke trash. I would just assume its trash based on the kind of crap they put out these days.
I'd feel the same about Fifth Element today.
Same shit will happen on
- The Silence of the Lambs
- Halloween
- Texas Chainsaw Massacre
- Resident Evil
- The Underworld
- Kill Bill
- Salt
- Tomb Rider 1-3 🤣
@@Nugtroen ikr, we can't judge a film based on box office numbers. Furiosa definitely one of the best prequel film for the past decade
I tend to disagree - at least where "Aliens" is concerned. Ripley is essentially a "final girl" in Alien. And she isn't selected as trooper in Aliens. She's selected because she has some expertise where the monster is concerned. And when you watch carefully, she survives by her wit rather than her physical force.
While Sarah is a "final girl" as well in Terminator, she is a girl boss in Terminator 2, agreed. But not the kind of girl boss we know nowadays. She makes bad decisions, gets almost hysterical when killing Dyson, dreams of having a family - things you'll never see a girl boss do nowadays. And she gets a real beating. It's not like she's kicking the behinds of 200 lbs guys in her heels.
But I agree on the premise that nowadays you'd interpret all this as as "woke" and dismiss the whole thing on the first trailer. I have been a film buff since my early teens. Gee, I don't even want to know how much money I left at the box - let alone all the physical media. But nowadays, even when I *think* a movie is worthwhile, I'm always utterly disappointed. "Nobody" being an exception. So yes, nowadays when even the hint of "The Message" pops up, I abandon the thing instantly. I want to be entertained - I don't want to raise my blood pressure to dangerous levels.
Jupp, today I wouldn't watch Voyager, Underworld, Buffy or Blade either.
Today, I only watch new stuff, if the lead is a white male. (Which is almost never, so the only new thing I saw in the last 2 years was Reacher)
Because EVERYTHING divers has been complete trash for many years.
But that's fine with me, I have more than enough old stuff to rewatch. Watching ALF atm^^
No more money from me :)
I loved Anya Taylor-Joy as the first alien to walk off the spaceship at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
LOL
Thank you for that. I feel like I am alone in thinking there's something wrong with her. Frankly, she's probably an m.t.f.
I'm all girlbossed out for the rest of my life. Plus, even Fury Road, as entertaining and aesthetically pleasing as it was, had some pretty corrosive and subversive propoganda that's easier to recognize now.
Such as?
@@Wired4Life2Such as men bad. Men enslave women in order to keep them pregnant. Women must free themselves from men and stop being used to breed. Mad Max must be a simp and help Furiosa overturn the patriarchal society.
@@Wired4Life2 Feminism. Anti-patriarchy. Anti-capitalism.
@@OrthoLou Please elaborate, given the fictional setting’s extreme circumstances.
Don't be cynically stupid. Furiosa is not a "girl boss". Seek Jesus, pal.
Garfield passed the 100 million mark yesterday
And nobody had to eat a peach grown from his crotch, so... makes sense.
And furiosa is barely at $68 million as of today looks like Garfield is kicking its ass
that is a PG movie tho
@@joseqmedina101 And? So?
@@DiogenesDworkinson Man educate yourself and telling me at least which one has the benefit of drawing more audience: Rated R movie or a family friendly PG flick. Also Do you realize the Fury Road was not a big box office hit right? You are telling me people should expect this to be a huge cash flow? come on. Mad max franchise was never as big as Star Wars, LOTR, Marvel or DC. There were R Rated movies that were big box office success sure but you can count those with the fingers on one hand
The Quartering was only half right. People ARE sick of Female Protagonists.....being forced into every nook and cranny of MALE DOMINATED franchises and spaces. You know what WOULD have probably sold and put butts in seats!? A Mad Max film STARRING Mad Max, and NO not that Tom Hardy silent protag knock off. I'm talking grey beard, over the hill, old man in his twilight years, Mad Max! Played by none other than Mel Gibson himself. It would be a massively talked about moment that would have gotten people going out to the theaters! Mel's return to mainstream films playing the character that put him on the map in the first place, one last time.
But nah we get 100 pound soaking wet Anya-Taylor-Joy who is literally in almost everything I see on my TV. Its done! We are OVER it! "Girl Boss" or not we aren't giving Hollywood the benefit of the doubt nor our hard earned dollar any more. Try getting a new tune Hollywood, cause this ones all played out!
Furiosa is a main character in the Mad Max franchise who has her OWN STORY apart from Max.
@@m081113 There in lies the problem. Furiosa needs to learn to stand on her own. They want nothing to do with Mad Max but STILL insist on calling it "A Mad Max Saga"....yeah? No! Enough with that nonsense. If they have such hopes and asperations for the character its time she stands on her own without the need to ride the coattails of Mad Max's name in her movie title. But they won't because they know that they NEED to remind people to try and get them to go see it in the theater. But we DONT WANT Furiosa, we WANT Mad Max. So like I said above. What would have sold was a Mad Max film, not yet another female protag being shoved into a male dominated franchise replacing a popular male lead.
Gibson is too old to spend 90 days in the desert.
@@chrisnicholls1112And Inmortal Joe isn't?
@@el_killorcure probably needs the money more!
I saw "Furiosa" and it was really good! No woke stuff and no lecturing the audience in it. It was a lot of fun and great action scenes. (Max and his V8 car have a very brief cameo. But for less than a minute.) I hate woke stuff and avoid any movie that is woke so they will stop making them. This is a really good movie that expands the world of Mad Max! If you hate woke movies then support this one! ! ! !
Define "woke". Wtf is even that?
The problem is not female protagonists, not even in action roles. We shouldn't have to list the female (action) protagonists again and again, from Sarah Conner, Ellen Ripley, Foxy Brown, Charlie's Angels, Buffy, Xena, every Milla Jovovich role and every Kate Beckinsale role and many more, going back to the 60s and 70s, were no one had a problem.
Because #1 they weren't substitutes for a male character that had to retire for her and made a fool of before, so we...might like her more(!?), which is weird strategy. No, in some cases they even made team ups that were awesome, Xena to Hercules or Angel to Buffy, the other way around.
And more important because #2 they were "protagonists", they were likeable or at least relateable, they weren't the ones with the characteristics of villains, which again is a strange constant of modern female protagonists, and yes, Disparu is one channel that will never get tired in pointing that out, it's basically his bread and butter...
Key words: When a female protagonist hijacks the movie from the male protagonist. This sums it up perfectly. This was NOT a Mad Max film. How an you call it a Mad Max saga?
Because it's a spin-off based on an important supporting character FROM THE MAD MAX UNIVERSE!
YOU only hate this film because either because you're another filthy misogynist that hates the idea of a female-led action movie or because you hate Anya Taylor-Joy.
Both of which are capital offenses.
Get over it. It is the Mad Max universe. Don't be so lazy.
@@melishek0001 so? Some members of The Avengers have their own movie named after them, but they didnt call those movie The Avengers movies, even though they are all in the same universe, did they?
@@tanpham937
No, because that is the Marvel Universe.
The all originated in Stan Lee's Marvel Comics.
Mad Max is the original. It stuck in people's minds, so it's the Mad Max Universe.
@@scotttovey that not quite the same, it is called marvel universe because marvel studio produced them, we call it Mad Max universe because that uniniverse is only about Mad Max.
Most people today don't know their head from their a$$. People are sick of women protagonist's 'who are pretending to be men'. Protagonist does not mean 'Hero'. A protagonist can be 'weak' or even a loser.
Yeah, but there's still the whole art school vibe like this was a student film. Seriously, crotch peach revenge arc?
Tbf Furiosa does literally pretend to be a man for half the movie.
Fuck you. Its not a feminist film at all. She is person who struggles to get revenge on someone who wronged her. All the men are competent and she laerns and works with 1 man inparticular. Having an obnoxious female lead is one thing. But to say that any female tough person is not your definition of feminine, fuck you.
The issue is people don't want to see anything. You sexists are a small portion. Streaming habits from lazy people who want cinema to die, ticket prices and the fact it looked like Furry Road light were way bigger factors then a female lead.
Seen it?......don't be lazy. Sheep.
Remember the end of Thunderdome when Max sacrificed himself so the other's could get away, and Tina Turner's character spared him because she genuinely respected him and how he played the game? They both had ambitions for which they gave their all, and he won, so she was a good sport since there was nothing to gain from doing otherwise and she felt a genuine kinship for him... Now THAT was a Mad Max ending.
Though don't forget Beyond Thunderdome was kind of a box office disappointment like Furiosa. It only made $36 mil in total in 1985. Fury Road was the biggest haul for the series with $360 mil.
@@raymondsmith6870 Which was 3.6x more than it cost to make... although you do make a good point: Even the flops of the past were better than the flops of today.
@@DiogenesDworkinson
You forgot about marketing and distribution cost are not included so add another $10 mil to the total production cost. That makes it nearly breakeven or a loss. The reason it took another 30 years to get the next sequel made. I remember going to see it opening weekend and how everyone I knew and talked to was hugely disappointed by the film itself not being anything like the Road Warrior(which Fury Road corrected) and was the 24th ranked film for Box office in 1985. Beaten by Pee Wee's Big Adventure(by a wide margin) , Breakfast Club and Fletch.
@@raymondsmith6870 "That makes it nearly breakeven or a loss."
$36 million is 1.8x $20 million, so... learn to math?
"which Fury Road corrected"
LMAO... ok, well trolled. You have any serious points to make, or you just messing?
@@DiogenesDworkinson
Sorry you can't do Hollywood accounting. The studios get only 50% of the box office. So their take on Thunderdome is only $18 mil. The production budget was $12 mil + $10 mil in marketing and production = $20-22 mil in total costs vs $18 mil in revenue. That makes it unlikely they made a lot of money on the film and the reason there was no sequel for 30 years as Miller couldn't raise any funding for his project.
They should not have called it at a Mad max movie 😅
it was a spin off of a character from mad max fury road...and directed by same director. gtfo
I think what killed it was the marketing. Even though the movie was pretty good, the trailers gave off lots of 'girlboss' vibes
That's a pattern of a lot of these failures. They'd still be awful as stand-alone movies but they would at least avoid making the franchise fans disgusted.
@@gorequillnachovidal True
EXCELLENT WORK. MEDIAHOLIC
Quality? Not a flop. It's excellent. Box Office flop?: Obviously. It made far under expectations. Every movie had a bad weekend. One of the worst Memorial weekends ever.
I didn't know there was a Garfield movie until I saw this video.
If they had called the movie Fast and Furiosa with Furiosa in the protagonist role as a loving but furious mother raising Mad Max's kids and follow him in his adventures I bet they would have made a lot of money
Furiosa is a real woman, she’s not that Disney type woman
Yes i think they are tired of the female lead boss cuz it always come with a catch now so they dont care for them anymore
Except that Furiosa is not a "girl boss". Also, a female being a lead in a movie is NOT the f-ing problem. Never was.
@@sup3414 not saying a female lead cant be in a movie its just now it always comes with a twist or re imagined character
My friend saw it and said it was great
who is your friend?
Roger Ebert?
I hate anything woke and girl boss crap but Furiosa was amazing. But I also loved fury road too
As sick of girl bosses as iam i kind of enjoyed the movie. Wouldn't call it amazing though.
@@scottmalkinson6983 glad you enjoyed it! I really liked the world building it did in furiosa.
FurioSue was an OK movie at best.
Genuine question. Why'd it bomb? Keep in mind Fall Guy and "If" basically broke even, with Garfield doing "okay".
My theory is those films will do well streaming wise but as concepts were not enticing enough to get people to go to the cinema.
Mad max rest in peace 1979-2024.
Yeah, I'll gladly take on the originals over what I saw.
@@EnvyDSin fr
The problem is poor writing. also reboots and sequels. NO Original ideas.
All that is coming out this summer are remakes and sequels :/ and most don't even look good .
Origi al ideas sound so cool, not gonna lie.
Poor writing is definitely a problem, but in order to confirm that, people would first have to watch a movie. Furiosa seems to be good though. This has all to do with the "diversity and inclusion" agenda that tries to wrestle franchises away from men, otherwise projects aren't even green-lit anymore. That's why Sylvester Stallone and others have left Hollywood.
@@youtubevoice1050 All movies with awful writing before stop people from going to the movies.
I think my 19 year old college son has never seen a Mad Max movie to be enticed to the latest in the franchise.
Even of he'd had, his entire teen movie-going experience was one of disappointment followed by disappointment in new movie releases in franchises that started before he was born.
He can't be alone. He won't spend money on franchise movies that started before he was born. Mad Max is from 1979.
He can't be alone.
“oh i dont wanna make a review late after everyone else”
thats never stopped you before, why stop now?
You nailed it. I'm not tired of female protagonists, I'm tired of the bait and switch, female overshadows male bs.
and how is Furiosa a "Bait and switch"?
@DIDI.TITI777 bless your simple heart. Where did I say Furiosa was bait and switch? I said that's the kind of thing I'm tired of. Reading comprehension is important.
@@HungLikeScrat Furiosa isn't a film about females overshadowing males. People are tired of films they didn't see based on their preconceived notions...
@@DIDI.TITI777, once again, reading comprehension is key. Bless your simple heart.
@@HungLikeScrat be blessed as well
When I was a kid, Clint Eastwood was the favorite tough guy movies, then Arnold in my 20's. It wasn't until Reeves and his John Wick series that I started really enjoying this type of movies again....speaking of which, it might be time to revisit those.
Turn on the TV literally any time of day and they're on. I swear they're on a 24 hour loop they're so overplayed. Part 2 is on as I type this on Paramount network.
This movie was insanely good. Kinda bummed it performed poorly
Yeah, like the crotch peach tree arc... so art student.
No matter how good it is. It's not a Mad Max film
@@nerychristian Well, yeah... but it's not good. Again, CROTCH PEACHES!!!
@@nerychristian no shit. It’s just in the same universe.
@@delirium1326 No, it's not. Which part of ANY of that resembles the 80s movies?
Putting a woman to portrait a male focused saga...Deja vu feelings...
Mad Max: Fury Road was already Woke before Woke was a thing: the movie was entirely focused on Furiosa and Tom Hardy's Mad Max was basically a supporting character. No matter what some people said, a Mad Max film without Mel Gibson is not a Mad Max film at all.
True dat. They didn't bring back Mel Gibson because they didn't want him to outshine Furiosa
I just knew there would be some losers on here bitching about Fury Road being woke. Do y’all like movies? Do you actively look for wokeness just to make yourselves mad? That’s really not a healthy way to consume entertainment.
You made that stupid word make no f-ing sense.
aside from the original, Max has always sorta been an entry point character, taking the audience along with him as he experiences these stories, not so much writing the stories himself. I think _Fury Road_ took that to the extreme, but it was still an incredible movie 🤷🏻♂️
I think it’s all about marketing. The marketing in recent big budget films have been lacking. If you look at films like this, or even Mission Impossible last year, the marketing has been lackluster. I know a lot of people who I’ve spoken to had no idea it was coming out. Even films like Abigail, which had all the ingredients to be a crowd pleaser, failed. All 3 films I’ve mentioned, I’ve seen and thought they were good to great, and any other year, would have thrived. But post-pandemic has conditioned us to also wait a few weeks for a film to come out on streaming services like, combining with lackluster marketing. Lets be honest; the only films in recent memory to get big marketing is Oppenheimer, Barbie and Dune, and maybe Planet of the Apes.
True, I've only realised Furiosa was in cinemas when the first RUclips reviews were in.
Probably Marketing has been hijacked by activists who do not know how to do the job.
I notice the random closeups in your videos and now I can't unsee them!!
They took a 100 pounds super model and try to sell her as a badass. Action star requires an it factor. Anna Taylor Joy doesn’t have IT.
Honestly I think it had to do more with the fact that it was full of CGI rather than practical effects. Men go to Mad max movies, not women. Men want to see real cars smashing into each other and other things. Mad Max watchers don't want CGI.
This is now the problem that Hollywood has created for itself. We've had so many preachy girl boss movies that every movie with a female lead is assumed to be a girl boss, feminist agenda flick. Even if it is a good movie and NOT agenda driven, the general public will assume it is woke bait and stay away.
That said, as Lauren states here, Fury Road lost money, so why they thought making a prequel starring Furiosa would be a big draw is baffling.
A "Mad Max" movie with no Max...😅
Like a beach without an ocean...
30 years ago I never cared if the lead was male or female, black, white or asian. Or a green alien, ALF whatever.
All could be good movies or bad movies and shows, it didn't matter, it was never about race or gender.
Today I won't even take a second look at anything that has a diverse cast.
Because I know EVERYTHING is only about race and gender.
So the last new series I watched was "Reacher" - because the lead was a white male.
Today, I would miss out on Ripley, Blade, Janeway... - however, we all know that today none of them would be the great characters they were 30 years ago.
All of these movies and show would suck today.
This movie failed because there's no Bears in this movie. Grizzle Grizzle
Gotdamn it dude. I hate to admit it Grizzle Grizzle is funny.
GREAT 👌 MEDIAHOLIC FURIOSA FLOPPY,
Yeah this needs to be pinned.
LMAO... nice!
"Grizzle Grizzle" is genius.
It's sad that Furiosa had to suffer for the sins of the girl boss from the last decade.
Furiosa IS the sin of the girl boss. There is nothing abut her that makes her different. This movies should have had a male lead. There is no excuse for it having a female lead. Women can not drive as well as men. They can not survive a beating as well as men. They can not learn to fight as well as men. They have slower reflexes, they have lower stamina. They are much weaker. Take look at formulas one racing, and com pare male and female fencing. It's getting putrid seeing film makers for some reason pout in these butch women hated by both men and women. They appeal to feminine men, and the LGBTQ community. No one else.
I admit that I saw a Furiosa trailer and made absolutely no effort to find out more. Just dismissed it as more girl boss trash.
I don't think we're tired of female protagonists in general, what we're tired of is bad, poorly written "girl power" female protagonists. And we're tired of male leads being replaced in their own franchises to attract an audience that isn't going to watch and probably doesn't even exist anyway.
They waited too long. If they had struck while the iron was hot and done The Wasteland first 2019-20 release, then Furiosa now. It'd have done ok
indeed too long, 9 years! Fury Road was the best cinema experience that year, I went with my lil bro and cousin!saw it on the largest screen and I had a large grin on my face for the last 20 minutes of pure adrenalin action!now Max is a 3 second cameo I heard in this! I really like Anya Taylor but her kicking 250 pound heavy guys is like the Marvel women symptoms!
I was surprised Forbes said it was doing great yesterday
Mad Max is one of the childhood heroes!!!
Boss Babaes are not attractive to men. However, the female executives in movie studios clearly like them.
Furiosa looks just like the protagonist of rebel moon, the same cliche, and it's great that people aren't supporting them 😉
There are strictly movies for men and women for a reason. Each have different tastes in what they like.
We are saturated with Female main lead movies, that we are sick of seeing them. And can't be bothered to check them out. In the past we did see a few and that was refreshing to see once in a while. But thats once in a while not all the time now.
What man looks up to a female as their role model? Or Hero? Think about it?
Imagine John wick as a female Jane Wick... Will it have the same impact ? I seriously doubt it
Will someone write a story for "Friar Tuck (a Robin Hood story)"? Maybe you could, but you wouldn't want it to be a massive budget for what is basically an unknown plot. "Solo: A Star Wars Story" was directed by Ron Howard, and yet was a box-office disaster. So when we saw the trailer for "Furiosa", I had zero interest in watching -- even if it was a well made movie.
Seriously though; why all these wide-eyes actors these days?
Honestly the only reason I didn't go see this is because I have no money. I will watch it when it hits MAX. I have no interest in Garfield. Also, there is already another Mad Max movie in production with Tom Hardy.
I don’t understand how everyone forgot basic marketing. Find your niche, market to that niche, dominate that niche.
There's but one Mad Max, and that is *MEL GIBSON*
what’s a classic Mad Max moment and/or line?
@@Sam_T2000 I really like this one
_"The chain in those handcuffs is high-tensile steel. It'd take you ten minutes to hack through it with this. Now, if you're lucky, you could hack through your ankle in five minutes. Go."_
@@Sam_T2000 do you remember that?
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT - absolutely not 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sam_T2000 time for s rewatch then
You are right. Terminator 1 & 2 had the ideal female hero. While this movie tried to avoid the Superman image for Anya they did their best to imply it. And for sure an audience can smell a bait and switch a mile away
The first movies that come to mind that did way better as sequels in reviews and at the box office is Annabelle 2 and 3... Most people absolutely hated the first one...
Anyway, Furiosa and her mother both seemed like invincible characters that both had one shot kills. However, when Furiosa was getting helped by her wannabe Mad Max male partner kill the bad guys, it showed she wasn't invincible anymore for the first time (being a twist) and is probably one of the main reasons people actually ended up liking this film. He was as good an assassin as she was. Overall, most people don't like a female killer that is invincible for an entire movie because its just annoying, predictable, and indirectly screams "I'm an untouchable feminist."
We are tired of false women as protagonists. The problem is not that they are women, the problem is that they are not human, they have no weaknesses or blind spots and we simply cannot suspend our disbilief so much to believe on them. For heaven's sake, put all those directors, writtes and actors to watch Alien I, II and III, Terminator I and II, the last of the Mohicans, even the fricking Mummy to understand how a female adventurer/hero/someone facing terrible odds and having to fight must be.
A middle aged woman basing her opinion off the Quartering is so funny.
🙄 Haven't seen her until now. I haven't missed a thing..... so weak.
I wasn't planning to go to imax for this but it got great reviews from the people I always watch on youtube so now I will. If this was any other franchise it would just be wait for streaming but I really liked fury road and I was disappointed I didn't see it on the big screen. Also besides seeing fury road at a few times it's filmed in south australia were I came from originally and people from where I live in sydney now have been involved in fury road and probably this one too (helps someone like me who can rarely be bothered going into the city get interested and using up a night to see a movie)
Why no one is seeing Furiosa: They’re in Cancun.
Actually when I saw the previews that was the main reason I didn't want to watch it. It was focused on a character I didn't care for I wanted the main character 😒
Jeremy: "People are sick of female protagonists--"
Lauren: "NO! NO! They're sick of poorly written movies!"
Actually...*ahem*...people are sick of poorly written movies, but when they see it has a female protagonist, odds are 80% that it will be poorly written as well.
The lack of quality when pursuing this FemiNazi approach post-2018 (female totalitarianism/authoritarianism/identitarianism) has been thoroughly demonstrated by now.
The overlap between both categories (female protagonist/poorly written) is damn-near mutually exclusive, because when a writer pursues a male protagonist, you know they're more interested in telling a story than shoving a female into the lead artificially.
5:47- Well, a little untrue. We would've showed up for an Aunty Entity prequel. She's already beloved and doesn't try to take the show from The Raggedy Man.
Brett Cooper just did a video where she spoke of a new job she once began that she thought of as her dream job. She was with a production company or something and read scripts for approval. The job started out perfectly, then they began telling her to find scripts with black women leads, or American Indian females or just a lot of diversity. The "diversity" was the most important thing. If that is the first box that must be checked, quality is bound to suffer.
I think the truth is that the magic went out of Mad Max after the second movie. It become more colourful and fantasy by the time we saw Fury Road, and as pointed out, Max was a tag-along for that movie anyway. But Mel Gibson isn't the silver bullet either, Beyond Thunderdome was a bad movie which I think sadly proved that Miller's original, raw and gritty world building talents were morphing into something else.
So basically we got two movies about Furiosa now , what about one new movie about Max you know the Mad Max the one the only.
It costs 23 euros to go see one movie once in my country, over 30 if you want to eat or drink something. Those are not really mandatory since every screening lasts over three hours with trailers and ads. With the price of one freaking movie I can go to a theater and two museums and still have money to eat a hot dog. It's not reasonable to pay for one three hour content slash message piece.
Another issue is: it s competing with Planet of the Apes, and this is a prequel no one really asked for. So if cinemagoers have a choice they ll most likely choose PoA as their one movie for the month and get Furiosa on streaming later
They have been planning a furiosa movie since the 90's... she has always been a big character in the mad max universe... Long before any 'girl boss' mentality
When they first announced that they were going to make this film. I decided I wasn't going to watch a mad max movie without mad max in it.
I think the reason why Mad Max Fury Road underperformed at the boxoffice is because the previous Mad Max came out over 30 years before and unless you were already a fan when it came out, it never really did receive a colt following. I'm 35 the Mad Max movies came out before I was even born yet I've never seen them and never caught my attention which is why I had no interest in seeing Fury Road when it came out. I did finally see all the Mad Max movies before Furiosa came out and I actually enjoyed them, and really I actually very much enjoyed Furiosa I thought it was a really good movie but I'm not surprised it's bombing right now.
Don't care. Now a Herby movie...COME ON BOB.
I don't know if people are tired of women, but I sure am. 👎
Mad Max 2 is one of the rare cases of the sequel being better than the original. The next 2 we’re entertaining but after that it was game over.
These comments are insane. The movie was excellent and without any “girl boss” troupes.
I know what you mean.
People just don't want to think for themselves today
It was a pretty good, tight action flick that I felt tension and drama in. It had a very complex group of characters.
Now when they release 'Ballerina: A John Wick Saga', the trailer will probably feature more of John Wick than is in the final cut of the movie.
Because that’s what the cinematic universe was crying out for, a Mad Max movie … … with no Mad Max!!! WTF?
To be fair, it's not just the 'girl boss' factor (although that is a large consideration.) There's also the undeniable fact that the movie is, like it or not, just another 'Mad Max/Road Warrior' movie, and when all is said & done, all those movies are pretty much the same. You seen one, you seen 'em all. You could probably switch around the action-sequences from one movie to another & have a tough time telling 'em apart. There's nothing really new or novel there in other words. That being the case, given the choice between paying good money to watch essentially the same tired old thing all over again in a movie-theater, or staying home & saving $$$, most people apparently chose the latter. And if they really, really, really wanted to watch yet-another dumb movie about cars zooming around in the desert & blowing up for 2 hours, then they could always watch one of the old 'Mad Max' movies on streaming for a fraction of the cost of a ticket-purchase.
If a woman is the main protagonist I’m out
Women want to watch hot guys!!! The only reason I watched marvel was because Chris Hemsworth and all the other hot men. Why do I want to watch boobs? I have my own!
Okay, with the hardcore fans the film is quite beloved, though heavily criticised for its use of CGI, which was not that good. Hardcore fans knew Max wasn’t going to be in it so it certainly wasn’t a bait and switch situation. The advertising made that quite clear in fact, cause he isn’t on any poster. In fact Fury Road was accused of being a bait and switch. Fans really loved Anya in it, so she’s not the issue either. There’s a few factors involved. I strongly believe that casual viewers in general are tired of strong female leads and the advertising did show that. People were very ignorant that this wasn’t some some agenda driven film. Furiosa isn’t some very strong female lead. She’s strong, but also suffers a lot through the film because she’s no superhero. On top of that you have streaming services. People don’t like to go to the theatre anymore. If Max had a bigger role in Furiosa then of course I think it would have drawn a larger audience. People just didn’t want to see it, so it’s also a matter of prejudice, cause the story is good, the characters are very interesting cause it’s my strong opinion that this is more a Chris Hemsworth film. I’m not saying he stole the show, but he does draw a lot of attention and did a very good job at playing Dementus.
I hate the CGI kid in the clip.
and tbh honest apocalypse movies are a niche, and add to that a western style, and target audience is even less. I think Fury road was just lucky (and relatively as the top 4 were above 1 billion so 379 million is way lower ; it was in a good spot with hype of Age of Ultron going down and nothing big coming after.
Furiosa has Garfield, Kingdom of Apes (maybe more general public), and also the bad trend of Streaming services killing cinema like the others.
I'll never get tired of women, I am however tired of Girl Bosses who I don't even regard as women
When you write a character so bad you have to ruin the rest of the movie to try and compensate.
Good take. But I don't think either movie is a 'bait and switch', i thought Fury Road had a good ying-yang balance. And Furiosa is not misadvertised. It is what it is. I think what hurts it is the climate we're in: badly written female protagonists; people see another and think it's more of the same. Plus: you're right, Mad max without Max is just not interesting.
Fury Road was a bait and switch!!! 🙄🙄🙄
Everyone wants to see a movie WITH and ABOUT Mad Max!!!
Remember our action heroes of the 80’s and 90’s? God I miss those days….
I liked fury road a ton but man it’s kind of hard to call a movie called furiosa a bait and switch when it’s about furiosa
I think calling it “a mad max saga” further emphasizes that he’s not in it
I think it’ll be popular enough. Just people will wait for streaming
Don’t forget that Mad Max Fury Road also bombed at the box office
There are multiple reasons why like theater to streaming dates are now shorter, ticket prices are high, theater audience behaviors (turn off your phones pls). There has been a trend in movies not doing so well in theaters and those movies are male leads (New Apes film, Fall guy, Minisry of Gentlemanly Warfare, If) and some those movies were decent/good. Its got nothing to do with a female lead or female protagonist. Barbies was a success and so was Evil Dead Rise,Megan, . Mad Max as a brand is not as big as some people think it is; its niche. Even if they brought back Mel Gibson, it still wouldnt have made a lot of money. Road Warrior and Thunderdome were not theatrical hits compared to Mad Max 1. Fury Road is the more popular movie among the franchise.
Association of Furiosa should be introduced as being part of the "Road Warrior" Saga and not part of the Mad Max Saga, seeing as how Max is the original series of the Road Warrior Saga.
If women would only support other WOMEN 🤔this wouldn't be a problem
Her take couldn't be worse if she tried. And commenting on something she hasn't seen? This is why Tubers get a bad name.
They put all the ingredients together to make us all think bad. The blame is on them
The fact that he is not in the movie isn't a thing, most fans know max is dead a few yrs after thunderdome. His age in fury roadwould be near 80-88. Miller claims Max was age 30 in furyroad which makes no sense, kind of like Max's interceptor still being ok. Not to mention Gasoline is in full force production, even though all production dried out just before Roadwarrior till the middle. In thunderdome we did get some hope for humans, they were starting to build small city's and using methane. Down side is sometime between the end of Roadwarrior and before thunderdome, the nukes dropped. Thundome teaches us there are radioactive zones now. What Furyraod teaches us is max can't be 30yrs of age and all the children are dying from cancer tumors from radiation. This crazy fake civilization should not last long, if most people are dying from cancer. Another thing Furyroad tells us they have no gasoline problem at all, as if the 91% oil shipments Australia needs, is back in force. These people waste fuel at every moment, even in a guitar lol. Lets not talk about how much breast milk 1 woman can produce in a day x by 9 we saw. "between 100ml to 400m\700ml later after baby is born." It would take all them women yrs to fill that tanker up, plus longer depending on how much people drink in that messed up camp." milk would rot by then" .Furiosa tells us they transport water, that makes more sense, milk doesn't lol. Over 80 per cent of Australia's gas reserves and over 95 per cent of oil reserves are offshore, this makes up 9% of refined. While 91% of Australia's oil is shipped in.
You said the right thing. I don't know why the "top commentators" surrounding this topic have to be so brash and blunt with their inaccurate diagnosis of the real problem. I liked Mad Max because it surrounds the experiences of a broken shell of a man, who has lost everything, and finds a spark of redemption in his journey of a purely primal survival based-existence. This is about the least feminine archetype I could imagine, and psychologically, nobody is interested in having this type of story told from a non-existence perspective of a woman who would never live it.
It's frustration from almost a decade of woke garbage we've had to endure, so now when there's a whiff or suspicion of the agenda, people will avoid. We've had years of nothing but "Strong Female Lead" movies come out that were either preachy, condescending to males, or replacing men in their own mediums, and it got old quick. Not to mention, they're all crap movies.
Mad Max, the male lead, should've been the main focus in their next movie, not a side character. Instead, we got a side character with Max's name in the title... Fans are interested in Max in Mad Max.
My medieval fantasy is called 'Castle of Calamity' because I didn't want to name it after my main character for this very reason-I can make spinoffs at my leisure. Mad Max is a name, not a world setting, and I couldn't give two damns about Furiosa. Hell, that's part of the reason I never saw Fury Road, because I kept hearing how Max got sidelined for Furiosa, whoever that is.
Furry Road wasn’t a mega hit. It was a media darling and a hit with critics. Movie goers were not clamoring for a Furry Road prequel 9 years later. And while Furiosa might not be a girlboss flick, it is certainly girlboss adjacent. She’s a female protagonist in a male-centric franchise. Making things worse, the real star of the franchise, Mad Max, was sidelined for her in his franchise.
Never asked for Mad Max without Mad Max.
This was actually a brilliant movie, and it was as much about Dementus v Immortan Joe. It is a Mad Max film, as it's set within the Wasteland estabished in Mad Max lore. I typically agree with this rhetoric but this one was actually really good.
Given the poor quality writing, and over-saturation of female protagonists in recent history, we have been conditioned to see a 'bad-ass' female protagonist in a movie trailer - and assume the movie will be garbage. Thus our disinterest in Furiosa.
He shoulda just made it a miniseries/series on HBO, not advertise it as a Mad Max movie. Its just not a strong selling point of "hey remember that character that stole the show from Mad Max in his own movie? Well go see the prequel show of her in you are interested, not advertise it as a Mad Max Movie but with a different character!"
3:28- More accurately "poorly written female protagonists" Pride, Prejudice and Zombies was much better than The Princess. Look at the two leads and try to guess why.
I still can’t get over the fact that this movie is made by the same guy who gave us Happy Feet and Babe.
What Babe...original or remake...or the animation