2018 Volkswagen Passat Highline vs 2018 Honda Accord Touring
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Continuing our coverage on mid-size family sedans, we're taking a look at the 2018 Volkswagen Passat Highline and 2018 Honda Accord 1.5L Touring. What features do these two cars share, and what makes them different? We find out!
Before watching this Showdown, we strongly recommend watching the TestDrive Spotlight episode for each car to find out all the features and our thoughts about them individually, as this Showdown does not cover everything and is meant to be a comparison between these two popular mid-size family sedans.
2018 Honda Accord 1.5L Touring: • 35 Years of US Accords...
2018 Volkswagen Passat Highline: • 8 Years & Counting | 2...
Both cars offer similar features inside and out, but like any Showdown there are some differences that make each one standout in it's own right. The Accord is all-new for 2018 marking the car's 10th generation. With the fully loaded Touring model you get LED headlights and fog lights, front and rear parking sensors, leather seating, heated and ventilated front seats, heated outboard rear seats, heated steering wheel, an 8" HondaLink infotainment screen which support Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, SiriusXM Radio, and built-in navigation.
The Accord also features a colour heads-up display, backup camera, two driver memory options, front power seats, a power glass moonroof, automatic dual-zone climate control, and Qi wireless phone charging which works with the iPhone 8 Plus and Samsung Galaxy Note8.
The 2018 Volkswagen Passat Highline is optioned with the R-Line appearance package and Driver's Assistance package. On the exterior the VW has LED front headlights but the R-Line package deletes the fog lamps. Parking sensors are located on the front and back along with corner sensors to aid with the Park Assist feature. Automatic power folding mirrors are found on the Passat, along with a leather interior, front and rear heated seats, a 6.33" navigation screen with Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, and SiriusXM Radio.
The rear seating space is also much larger on the Passat, making it idea for people looking for a more full-size sedan experience while keeping it under $40,000.
Our Showdown will compare these two and crown one a winner, so that if you're in the market for a new mid-size sedan you'll have a better idea about either car.
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CVT is a no go, give me the Passat.
Can always get the 2.0L Accord with the 10-speed automatic instead.
I have pathfinder 2013 with CVT and still runs at 240k miles but always been squeaking and slipping since 20k miles. so I agree. Maybe newer are better
@@PRNTestDrive you're well over $30k U.S. at that point. Got my Passat SE for $24K. Mazda is the only Japanese car with the looks I like, too. Back seat is too small tho. Love the clean simple lines of the Passat.
@Joe Joseph Been there done that with a standard shift car in NY. You seem to know little about VW to make such a blanket statement. I am on my 4th VW with 104,000 miles the other 3 before this one also had over 100,000 Miles. ZERO problems.
I would NEVER buy or drive a CVT vehicle the mechanical aspect of CVT is a major turn off for me regardless of the car it is in.
I know because I had a Murano and my wife currently drives a Nissan Altima.
@Joe Joseph My Jetta TDI had 157,000 miles zero issues. I do agree the European spec Passat is a nicer car. My brother was in Jamaica 2018 he told me he saw Audi's and VW trucks that he has never seen in the States.
Both are nice, but I like the design of the Passat more and it looks more like a luxury car! Can't wait for the next gen!
Well...NVM. I would pick the Accord actually thinking about it lol. I still can't wait for the next gen Passat tho
We do like the exterior design of the Passat, it is quite nice. But we agree that we'd take the Accord if these were the only two available.
Lol the passat does not look luxurious compared to the honda at all
@@thecoasterdoctor659 It’s German engineered it looks and feels much better than the record
I rented a Passat for 4 days and was impressed on how it drives. The sound system was really good and I enjoyed music more than my car. engine was very responsive. I felt more power at an instant from the turbo 4 than my Infiniti G37 and my wife’s 2016 Honda Accord sport. I would choose Volkswagen over Honda Accord.
I own a 2013 Passat. I bought it because of the back seat size. I also like the conservative styling.
We absolutely loved the rear seat space, there's no doubt it has more room back there than any other mid-size vehicle we've driven.
I have a 2013 German cc, LUX model, it has a home link, interior leds, heated and cooled seats 8 air bags, daytime running lights, 2.0 twin turbo engine, 18 inch wheels, leather seats, cornering headlamps, awesome stereo, this is just to name a few, this is a man's best friend
I had one too, and I love it...but Accidents happen
Run by libtards, Volkwagon are far from Conservative 🤣
I bought a 2018 Passat SE w/ Tech package. This car is fully loaded and hauls ass. It is timeless as far as design and the tech is super easy to use. I bought mine for $24,500 with 72,000 or 6 year warranty AND a lifetime mechanical warranty through Executive Volkswagen of North Haven, CT. I love my Passat. I am a Mazda guy but this car impressed me so much I bought it because it is so fun to drive.
Can't pass up a lifetime mechanical warranty, thats for sure! Our press fleet management company has the 2019 Passat GT, I had to take a double glance at it walking by. I'm going to try and squeeze it into our rotation before winter.
No way I have the same 2018 se Passat but as for fun to drive this thing cant even compete to my wife's 2014 Mazda2. I like the Passat still, it is a perfect family car.
VW in my book. I don't like all the angles, edges, curves and cuts in the Accord. I like a car with clean lines, handsome lines.
The Honda has certainly strayed from it's more conservative roots.
The vw Will age much better than the accord. I'm not sure why the Japanese always have crazy designs that just age terribly.
It's quite funny to see how you ironically compliment VW using the word "clean". VW's marketing team is a bunch of geniuses indeed.
@@xoxoxar How will it age when at 100k you will have engine replaced at least once.
@@eleonik76 lol these comments, own a damn VW and stop talking, yes maintenance is more expensive than Japanese cars and they are not as reliable but they won't keep breaking down like people imagine, the Passat is actually a very reliable vehicle since 2012...it still is.
I just bought the 2017 passat rline and I can say that I love the simplicity of it and the quality is top notch less plastic more leather it doesnt have that horrible screen that looks cheap it just feels well built it feels peppy with the 1.8t and the style is timeless and looks good without having too much going on
The Accord navigation sits up higher to make it easier to see and to help keep your eyes on the road.
Love my Passat R-Line. Fast enough, comfortable, good MPG, and sexy looking. Best thing is I don’t see 10 of them every day like I do with the Honda.
Fair enough, as long as it works for you that's all that matters!
I happen to drive a 2014 Passat 2.5 SE, and that car, also being my 3rd Passat so far, offers everything I need: the space, ease of use, and driving experience. While the new accord is a beautiful car and I wouldn’t mind owning one at some point, I just can’t wait for the new VW Arteon to enter the market. That car brings the looks, proper powertrain and the tech to the Passat (it is based on the Euro-spec Passat) lineup. And accord will not be able to beat that for me.
Well the Arteon is a full-size car, so it wouldn't compete with the Accord anyway. But we are curious to see the car when it hits the market out here.
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Well, true. Or is it actually, I wonder. VW considers the Arteon model above the Passat, but technically (underneath and on the inside) it is still based on the Passat, again the Euro Speced one. Also when we look on the dimension, the Arteon 8mm shorter than the NMS Passat and only 1cm longer than the current Accord. Anyways, very good material, and I would be really pleased to see how the new Accord compares to the 2018 Buick Regal Sportback.
I'm sooo excited for the arteon. Imo I would get that over an Audi design and look wise. I hate the new Audi design language but am in love with the arteon.
I bought a 2018 Passat earlier this week and I love it. Of course, my last car was a 1997 Sable Wagon dinosaur so anything's luxury in comparison.
Glad to hear you're enjoying yours!
Passat any day. Bought my 2014 SE w/roof with 1.8 EA888 new. I've driven 116,627 trouble free miles.
Build quality on V.W. has much more solidity. Even the door hinges are made from forged steel, vs. pressed steel.
I service my car faithfully. Just had pads, rotors, and brake fluid flushed and replaced. Rear brakes were original, as ARE the wiper blades, plugs and ignition coils! Yes at 116,627 miles!
Also had coolant system flushed and filled. Second transmission service, pan dropped, gasket, strainer and fluid replaced. Work performed by V.W. Master tech.
Recently popped in Honda and drove this Honda. Great Gadget/tech car. Rides ok, but not refined in comparison, and no where close to the substantial feel of the Passat.
My 7th V.W., including a 2011 German built GTI, and my USA Tennessee built Passat still has zero squeaks and rattles. Best and most reliable car Ive owned including Honda, Toyota, Ford.
A solid road warrior that feels substantive, not like a band aid box on wheels.
Thats been my first hand experience.
I'm glad to hear you're happy with your Passat, hopefully it keeps putting a smile on your face!
I just got a Passat GT. Love it!
Glad to hear it!
I’m not a fan of those brands however after driving both cars I did enjoy more the Passat because the steering wheel was lighter and more responsive than the Accord. It is a small detail but for me it’s important because I do drive a lot.
Good video btw 🙂
Fair decision Jennifer
Which one was smoother to drive? What I mean is, which one made you feel bumps and potholes much less?
Since I’m going to be driving it, I want to interior to be nice and comfortable, in that case my money goes to Honda + I don’t have to worry about reliability.
Very good point!
For me it always comes down to seating comfort 1st. Can I sit in for hours at a time if needed and still be comfortable. I bought a 2015 Passat SEL and am thrilled with it still at 35,000 miles. The seats are amazingly comfortable for the long haul. Having said that, the 1.8T that is in my car is nearly silent. It is not ultra powerful, but it is smooth, efficient, powerful enough and like I said, silent. I went and test drove a new 2018 with the 2.0 liter; and it is loud. I did not find it very smooth either. I decided to wait, despite huge rebates in place.
Good to know! We always love hearing from owners, and we're happy to hear you're enjoying yours!
I have a 2015 passat sport 1.8 turbo it's a very nice car and very comfortable car for 35.000$
Todd V I’ve had the same experience as you. My dad has had his 17 Passat for a little over a month and I’ve driven it almost as much as he has (love it)! I too was curious to see if the 2.0 made a difference so I test drove a 18’ R-line last week and while I noticed a vague difference in power in the 2’s favor, I noticed a huge difference in noise/harshness in the 1.8’s favor. Give me the 1.8 any day!
I would say VW PASSAT has 'intelligent beauty' . it'll last for quite some time. But Honda & like most Japanese marks, is too 'pop-culture' when comes to styling & design. It look's pretty at first then after awhile, it looks boring & out of fashion. No 'evergreen' kinda look at all. (...and the 2018 Honda civic type-R is even uglier!!!)
I think you're right, the Accord's design isn't going to age very well.
Volkswagen has only good publicity
This is not true at all. It only appears that way because the Volkswagen barely ever updates its design, whereas Honda updates its designs frequently. The 2018 accord has a very edgy yet modest and nice design, whereas the VW looks like it was made for people who wear crocs.
Nice review. I have a 2017 Passat 1.8 TSI. I'm an older guy (65) that has come to appreciate comfort and room over sports models. My wife and I drove round trip to California from Ohio last year, and I highly recommend the Passat. Head and legroom is generous (I'm 6'3") and the seats are supportive and comfortable. Highway driving is smooth and quiet, and passing large trucks and crosswinds have little effect. In the mountains, the torque from the turbo made the steepest grades effortlessly. The trunk is quite deep and there was room to spare. The controls, especially the info-mation stuff, is easy to use, and you don't need to keep referencing the user's manual to figure it out. A tech-twigit would probably prefer the Honda, but I like the understated looks and simplicity of the VW. As of this writing (April 2020), I've got 39k on the clock and zero issues.
We’re glad to hear you’re enjoying your Passat!
I like VW but I think they need to make a big change on it's designs, great cars really enjoy driving them
We agree, they definitely need to do something with the Passat line.
Great review and I choose to buy the Passat after watching and considering each vehicle < Cheers!
Enjoy!
I own a UK Passat. It's superior to the US version, extras are better and the interior is more modern. I don't understand why VW would sell a less luxurious version in the US. It seems crazy. VW all the way.
I believe we had a few comments that had some theories, essentially the Passat was getting pricey and going in a slightly more upscale direction, VW decided to make a cheap version for North America then developed the CC as a semi-premium experience for those wanting that euro-passat feel.
If only VW could make a sunroof that doesn’t leak.
Another great video. Are you planning to review the new Acura TLX a-spec?
We're definitely hoping to! Thursday will be our Accord vs. TLX Tech episode, but we only had the Acura for a couple hours thanks to one of the area dealerships. We've sent a request off to Honda to book their TLX press vehicle, we're hoping to hear back from them once people get back from the NY Auto Show and Easter holiday.
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I absolutely love the styling of the Passat. Definitely a head turning vehicle
I think it's grown on us more since filming this episode, as well as driving some other models from Volkswagen over the past 14 months.
It is interesting to know the variations of the Passat line up in different countries. Our 2018 Passat 2.0 TSI in Brunei is the EA888 engine frm the Golf GTI producing 220hp/250ft lb torque mated to a 6-speed dual-clutch gearbox (DSG). It is based on the new MQB modular platform which is stiffer, lighter. The digital instrument cluster is very bright and multi-functional including putting up yr navigation on the big screen. It comes with a pop-up HUD. Nappa leather seats. It comes with Dynamic Chassis Control. The same features u find in the Golf GTI. Handling-wise is great thanks to the new lighter and stiffer platform (same platform as the GTI). It doesnt feel underpower, excellent brakes overall. But if i have to choose, i'd get the Passat Variant (estate) as it is more functional for me who recently taken up woodworking as a weekend hobby.
Seems like we really get the worst version VW wanted to produce. It really felt like a cost-cutting operation for them.
I have both of these cars. My wife drives the Passat and I drive the Honda. It's a toss up! Long trip, Passat! Driving around town and short cruise, Honda! I love the one I'm in!
Glad to hear it! Both cars offer something a little different for buyers.
Just bought a 2020 Passat SE and it rides great. Very smooth and tight. The accord might have a little more power, but it feels cheap in comparison. The Accord suspension is too hard for my taste.
What's important is you found something that works for you!
Thanks for sharing your review but i prefer the VW Passat style
Glad to hear that the Passat styling works for you! It's a handsome car.
I love the way VW’s ride vs Honda... VW’s are smooth with the ride while Honda’s tremble at a red lights.. that annoys me
This Passat was very smooth, I'll give it that. I was hoping to get into the 2019 Passat GT with the VR6 a few months ago but they had to retire it off the fleet before I could get it.
Does the R-Line passat come with a black interior or are all R-Lines tan??
Thanks
You should be able to pick black as an interior, at least from what we've seen on VW's website!
Thank you for talking about ride quality and comparing it with each other... No ones talks about it... I will suggest you that you should talk about technology a bit more as well.. For example drive assist capabilities (lkas, low speed flow, super cruise, park assist etc) .. And have a small demo about it .. Since now almost all modern car is comin with some driver assisting features some offer more some less... It would effect a lot on buying decision..
Certainly a good suggestion! It's something we actually haven't really talked about on any episode of TestDrive, and briefly touched on it with the latest episodes on the Volvo cars we've done, only because the tech differs slightly from other manufacturers.
How come the passat doesn't have the center clock? Did they get rid of it?
Seems like VW wants to remind driver's what they're driving rather than having a clock. We're not sure why they've chosen to replace it with the Passat badge in the centre of the dash.
Thanks for your sharing. I have a quick question. Which car you think is more quiet from outside noises while driving?
That’s a great question. It’s been so long since we drove either of these that I wouldn’t be able to accurately say from memory. I think both we’re equally about the same.
PRN_TestDrive Thanks.
The Honda is my preference, even though the 1.5t is known for gas filling the oil pan due to blowback. This seems to be a problem in colder climates where the engine never maintains operational temps long enough to burn off the excess gas. I also know Honda performance guys prefer the 1.5 to the 2.0 as it can be modified more reliably.
Interesting! We've seen what the stock 2.0L turbo can do, it's a real sleeper.
1.5L,not good for such a heavy car,vw would be the best.
We found the performance of the Accord to be quite good with the small engine. The 2.0L is definitely a good option for people wanting more power though, just like the VR6 for the Passat.
exactly-1.5 way too small- turbocharged or not-curb weight accord is 32001bs- my 1987 honda civic had a 1.5 liter curb wt less than 2000 lbs- that accord engine is gonna be so wore out by 100k
Are the Canadian rear seats different than the American versions? Per spec sheets the rear on the Accord is larger (but I imagine headroom the Accord is behind).
As for comparing these vehicles, I agree it's a fair comparison because my best friend and I were looking for new sedans and he cross-shopped these two. In the end he enjoyed the refined and understated design of VW and there were more incentives. I went with the Accord 2.0. I've driven my friend's VW and I think that's the better quiet drive whereas the Accord was a bit more fun due to its low end torque and tech.
The Accord is definitely fun to drive. The Canadian versions should be the same, but we really found the Passat to have a lot of space. Some of the other journalists we've talked to up here also found the space in the VW to be exceptional.
Be careful, my 2016 CIVIC EX needs a new AC compressor. Just out of 3/36000
warranty. Other have the same or similar problem. The dealer is
asking for $1,600. Please please do your research before buying. Yes, I am pissed.
The exterior styling looks way better in person on the Acccord for sure. If you see it from the right angle, it'll have you doing a double take, espically the Sport model
We do like the look of it too, it certainly isn't the worst design in the Accord's history. But we also understand why a lot of people don't like it. It's a very love it or hate it kind of car right now.
An Accord causing a double take? Well maybe if Accords weren't so plain and extremely common. I can probably count 50 Accords around me everytime I go out.
That side profile though
Nice review Brother
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We're glad you liked it, thank you!
this is nice
Thanks!
how would you rate passat sel premium for 28.5k vs 34k accord 1.5 touring? which is a better deal comparing deals for passat at the moment?
We don't have that specific trim here in Canada, so we wouldn't be able to help much unfortunately.
Oh no! I meant if you get passat sel premium for $28.5k vs $35k for accord touring 1.5L! which one would you take? Take hypothetical situation.
I bought the Passat in 2016 brand new, I have 136,644 km. Already and I notice that this vehicle I have to add oil in the motor and I’m not happy about it because I threw my Honda Accord 2003 with 644,000 km and I never add oil into it, I never have any issue about motor.
Now it’s up to you to judge which car is better!
But not sure either if the new car are the same quality
The two Accords I've had previously were insanely reliable.
I asked to the dealership at the VW in Whitby On and they said that the turbo engine is normal adding synthetic oil and after 30km of every oil change
I don’t know now it’s the first time I used synthetic oil in my car. After that! The Passat I love it. My next car it’ll be the Audi A7
Just bought a 2018 Passat last week (35,000 mi)! So far I'm loving it. AND it's still under warranty. That year VW gave a 7 year, 85,000 mile (or something like that) warranty. My last car was a 2000 Buick LeSabre limited (great great car - still see lots on road even though they discontinued them in 2005, which was stupid). Coming from such a low tech car, I really didn't want such a high tech car, but you really don't have a choice today. I'm sure I won't use most of that tech. (BTW, I'm 73 - old school for sure! ;-) So far I know how to drive it, play the radio and play a CD. Baby steps....
Oh, and I really didn't want a CVT trans, so no Honda. And the Passat looks a lot better (IMO) than the Honda. I guess some like that big high screen sitting on the dash (and displays on the windshield -- I'm not one of them.
It is always funny hearing when people pronounce "Uolkswuagen" haha
I am picking up the Accord Sport 2.0T this week.
Congrats! We hope you enjoy it, we imagine the 2.0L is even more fun, and we thoroughly enjoyed this one!
xxFallenKnight , you made good decision, Accord holds values and reliability.
Kheam Hem everyone in my family pretty much owns a Honda. One or two toyotas but Honda is what we prefer. My accord got delayed till next week but that's okay.
Congrats. I have tried both 1.5 and 2.0. 2.0 is amazing.
Passat👍
Nice
I owned accord 2.0 2006 to 2012 and changed to passat b7 in 2012 and still driving the passat. I love both cars. Passat is a bit better than accord in term of power, comfort, handling and I the look.
The new 2.0L turbo Accord is really quick. We had hoped to have the Passat GT VR6 this week, but unfortunately the car was retired off the press fleet.
I test drove both the 2017 Accord and Passat prior to buying and my choice was the Passat. It had a more quality feel than the Accord overall . Better looking better ride and more responsive. The Accord makes noise when the accelerator is pressed but not much change in movement for a while. The noise of the engine and cvt is a very unpleasant drone. The Accords wheels were hideous and a deal breaker for me. I didn't spend much time with the Accords infotainment system but it didn't seem as user friendly as the VW's. The nearest dealer to my house sells both Hondas and VWs and I switch between the brands frequently. I planned to get a Honda this time but the VW was far superior so I got a VW again. Maybe next time Honda.
We love hearing from buyers like you! Everyone has different taste when shopping for cars, so our choice might not be the same for everyone out there. We're glad to hear you cross-shopped both of these cars and ended up taking one! Enjoy it!
What didn't you like about the Passat? Can you be more specific on why you went with the Accord as the winner?
The Passat isn't an awful car, it's just really dated. We're a little disappointed VW is keeping the same Passat into 2020 with just a microscopic facelift. This generation Passat has been out since the 2011 model year, it's time for an update. Aside from that, VW also removed some features for 2018 like homelink and the analogue clock yet kept the price the same. Navigation is also very dated, and overall engine performance isn't good for the size of the vehicle. We don't hate the Passat, it works for a lot of people, but the Accord is forward-facing while the Passat is clinging onto the past.
Forever I’ll be in love with that vw passat generation to me is the best looking and attractive passat
In Europe Volks is much more popular than Honda.
That makes sense, much like how Ford and Chevrolet dominate over here, especially in key geographic areas.
Volkswagen is fucking trash
Jarek Nowak in japan honda is more popular than any European cars. Of course it is!
Destinyガンダム there goes that creepy anime kid from high school......
And honda ja much popular than trash vw in usa
I slightly prefer the Passat handling on the road but somehow the Accord was liked better by two 6ft tall friends who accompanied during our test drive. Over here, some Vw parts could take up to 3 months to arrive and have bad resale. I will test the new Camry next.
The Camry was nice, especially if you don't care about navigation. It had a good mix of features and styling, not to mention that 301 horsepower engine. The Camry would have been higher in our list, and won the Showdown we did on it if it offered proper navigation and ventilated seats. Toyota announced Apple CarPlay for the Corolla a few weeks ago, we haven't heard if it's a retroactive update for cars like the Camry, or if Android Auto is part of the mix.
Good review, but you really need to find better camera. Just check 2:57 how it wobbles.
That has nothing to do with the camera but a mix of post-process stabilization along with electronic gimbal stabilization. When we film screens we often get that effect, the software gets confused with our hand movements and the edges of the screen.
those huge tires on the R line aren't gonna filter out the really bumpy stuff well.
That’s certainly true, especially here where the roads are beyond awful.
We get the passat DSG (dual clutch) in Asia. That puts a different dimension to performance and smoothness. Cheers.
The Passat is a completely different (better) vehicle outside of North America.
The one very odd, confusing thing they changed from the 2017 and older years that I hate on the 2018 Passat is removing the analog clock above the infotainment system on SE trims and up, it's only replaced by a plastic "PASSAT" badge and I feel it removes the luxury and further ages the interior, not to mention, it makes that portion look hideous. I think you can only get the analog clock on the base S trim.
Although I like the Passat and it's 6 year-old design has aged well, I think that change is odd considering many automakers would just not offer it on base trims and only offer it on high-end trims, I just don't get it.
We're not sure why they decided to remove the clock also, that Passat badge is really useless. I'm pretty sure they removed it, and HomeLink due to overall cost cutting. East features to cut while keeping the price the same, to help boost the bottom line ever so slightly.
The result of such a comparison would be the same if you know that honda accord is 8k $ more??
In Egypt honda accord is 44600 $ and Passat is 36500$..I sway between them and didn't get the winner yet..please,help me
That's a huge price different in your market, I mean based on that it probably would make the most financial sense to go with the Volkswagen, even if you can afford the Accord you could put that $8,000 aside for any repairs/maintenance/gas for a few years.
Get Passat. Solidity in VW is something you cannot get elsewhere. And also very safer.
I’ve owned a Passat for a few months now, the seating is a pretty annoying issue imo. Long trips can really start to hurt my upper back, I still haven’t found the best position for my seat. Other than that I love my car, I’d definitely recommend it.
We're glad to hear that you like yours. It's been over a year since we drove this, but we're in the 2019 Golf Alltrack and the seats are probably similar, the leather is very stiff and I believe long trips might create the same fatigue you're experiencing.
My passat has lumbar support adjustment. That helps.
VW anyday.
We knew there'd be an equal number of people going for one over the other, glad to hear from both sides!
I rented 2.0 Hyundai sonata and 2019 Toyota Camry and they are both nice to drive but power lacks. And I'd say that Hyundai has better technology package in the price, where Toyota you pay for it extra...right?
It does. The early 90’s Accord were something special and this one is probably the closest Accord to that.
It's hard to beat the 90s when it comes to build quality!
I'd choose the Honda! Newer design & tech even though you can feel the difference in build quality of a European competitor. Theres nothing like it. But still Honda
We're expecting something new from VW in the Passat line within the next year or so, but the Accord definitely has a lot going for it.
I thought the R LIne was cheaper than the SE with tech at least it was for 2017
The pricing we've shown is in Canadian dollars, if that changes anything for you.
Is this a Canadian version of the passat?
It would be, the US should have similar options but likely different trim names.
Drive 100,000 miles with both cars and do a comparison!
We'd love nothing more than that! We're hoping to get some long-term vehicles from manufacturers, like the 2019 Kia Sportage we have right now. In this case it's hard to say which would hold up the best.
For numbers geek i was counting + and minuses as he was speaking and score is actually tied
We certainly try to be as balanced as possible!
The Accord has definitely improved in terms of quality and i have mix feelings about the rear design, the rear of the passat is more premium looking in my opinion. the front of the accord is cool looking though. The Passat is now an old boy in its segment design wise especially the interior, quality is fading and definitely needs major,major update. Good Video.
That's certainly true, the Passat really needs an update through and through. We expect to see an all-new generation within this calendar year.
A relatively dated model line is NOT synonymous with poor quality. And I think he's understating the ride difference between the 2 and the throttle response of the Passat. I've yet to see any literature that doesn't praise the 2018 Passat for its ample power and throttle response vs. the recent previous 1.8. And no matter what Honda does to the Accord, to quote U2, "everybody's got one." I think VW has some really exciting stuff ahead.
Accord is rocket, a bless.
In the US, it keeps its price value despite the years. Whereas the passat lose almost close to half its value or over in the 1st year because of depreciation and same thing goes for Kia optima and Hyundai sonata.
Toyota Camry and Honda accord are the best most midsize sedans bought in USA due to their performance, reliability, strength, fuel economy and affordable prices.
This generation Accord is finally picking up sales here, it was a slow start with the updated rear end, but buyers finally seem to be getting behind the wheel of them. It's a solid car!
That's why i got very good value by buying a 3 year old passat with a low mileage. And i get to enjoy fun driving, great space/comfort/safety.
Make passat depreciation work for you, not against you. Cheers.
I feel it's unfair to say VW remote starter doesn't work, some manufactures do it that way where the car has to be locked, some don't. You have a clear preference. But overall great, informative review!
A good majority of cars need to have the doors locked prior to the remote starter activating, even if the doors are already locked. That’s not the problem here, when the door is opened on the VW during a remote start the engine shuts off, defeating the entire purpose of pre-conditioning the vehicle in the first place.
Please drive a 2018 Honda Accord 2.0T Touring. You can get that with dealer discounts for about $33k.
We'll see if we can make it happen, we've had a tough time getting Honda to reply back to our requests for vehicles after publishing these episodes. Not sure why, we liked the Accord enough to place it in the #2 position for mid-size family sedans.
according to the carconnection the Accord has more rear seat legroom, 40.4 to 39.1 for the Passat. The Accord interior is also larger 105.5 ft3 for the Accord and 102 ft3 for the Passat. The Accord actually has a larger interior than the Impala.
That's very interesting, we certainly didn't feel that when driving it. The Accord felt to be on-par with the 2017 Mazda6 and 2018 Kia Optima we drove/featured earlier, but when our daughter was sitting in the back seat of the Passat she had significantly more legroom.
No Ventilated seats and no Homelink are a big miss by VW. I still bought the Alltrack and don't regret it but I miss the Homelink and cooled seats in my last car. Rather have cooled than heated TBH. CVT's are a no for me.
We're expecting to see at least ventilated seats for the Passat when the next generation is launched. We're getting close to the end of the year, so we're not sure if it'll be a new for 2019 model, or if they'll skip a year like they did for the Jetta. We're disappointed that HomeLink was an option for the 2017 Passat, but removed for 2018.
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I own a Passat built in Europe. I love my car. I have also owned a Honda and I liked it. With that said. I drove a 2018 Passat made here in the states and I hated it. Like most cars built in the us, it felt flimsy for lack of a better description. Looking to buy a new car in the next couple years. I can say I’m not looking forward to it.
We've heard from a few other commenters also about the Euro version of the Passat. We're really not sure why VW wanted to make a completely different version for the US, but it seems like it's working for them. They still sell enough of them to probably justify the serious cost-cutting that went into it.
I don't like the half LCD screen on the Accord. I like to see the RPMs and my MPG not one of the other. Just me.
No one's really got the in-dash LCD perfect yet, not enough customization considering they're all computer screens. We'd like to see manufacturers open it up!
JB 360 you can actually have both on one screen. I have mine set to show me the RPMs & & my MPGs
My previous car was a 2014 VW Jetta SE until it was recently totaled. I was planning on purchasing the 2018 Passat SE w/technology but local dealerships did not have in stock the color scheme I wanted. After waiting almost 3 weeks with no luck, I started looking elsewhere. Ended up getting the Accord Touring 1.5L and couldn't be more happy with its drive performance, technology, reliability and resale value.
The Accord really is a great car, despite it's interesting design changes is really does offer a lot. A lot of people have commented about the larger engine being the one to go with, and we've seen it in action at the drag strip, it definitely performs. But there's a reason why the 2018 Accord 1.5L is our #2 vehicle in the mid-size consumer segment, it does everything really well and offers a lot of choice for customers.
I would consider the larger 2.0T engine if it wasn't for the electronic gear selector. I've read opinions/reviews on electronic gear selectors and this is what one had to say about the Acura's gear selector that's similar to the Accord - www.cars.com/articles/carscom-editors-sound-off-on-electronic-gear-selectors-1420683874162/
Cars.com's editors test drive nearly every new car that hits the market, and we've encountered just about every type of gear selector. But among all the conventional console- and steering-column-mounted shift levers, pushbutton transmissions, rotary shift knobs and spring-return levers, some of us found the setup in the 2016 RLX the most frustrating.
Its selector is a smallish, vertically oriented strip on the driver's side of the center console. It has seven different buttons for different functions - each with its own shape and unique positioning affecting how it is pushed.
Top to bottom, the selector includes:
A narrow, rectangular button for Park
An indented, V-shaped button for Reverse that the driver pulls rearward like a trigger
Another rectangular button for Neutral
A large circular button for Drive
A narrow, rectangular, dimpled button for Sport mode
A large, square, upward-pull switch for the parking brake
A small, thin button for the hill-hold function that keeps the car from rolling when stopped in Drive
With all of those different shapes and functions requiring different actions to activate them, our editors never got comfortable with the electronic gear selector. Every time we wanted to pull out of a parking space forward or in reverse, or put the car in Park, we had to stop for a couple of beats to make sure we were pressing the right button and that the transmission had indeed shifted into the gear we wanted. It was like the Groundhog Day edition of our What Does This Button Do? story series - one that repeats over and over again without an answer.
How did Volkswagen engineers make a 2.0 turbo so slow?
They have to be de-tuning it here, I believe the exact same engine in Europe produces about 220 horsepower, if not a bit more. No idea why they make it so slow here.
It’s sad that the accords 1.5T CVT transmission does 192 horse power. Where the Passat has 174.
VW needs to consider adding more power to their North America vehicles, considering the same trim in Europe has over 200 horsepower.
Is VW reliable like honda?
That depends. Personally I feel Honda's reliability has gone down in the past 20 years from what it once was. That said, VW isn't typically known as a dependable brand. I think you'd be better off with the Honda for longer-term reliability.
@@PRNTestDrive thanks and hondas are cheaper to maintain than VW
I don't understand. You are saying toyota camry and Kia Optima are better?
At the end of 2018 we ranked all the mid-size sedans we drove, the Kia Optima ended up taking the #1 spot on our list.
When you drive the 2 L touring model that actually Compares in price point to this Volkswagen the Accord hands-down takes the trophy! Honda has way better maintenance costs when you start having to put some money into it.
I love German engineering don't get me wrong, but I can get a stage 2 hondata tune that'll bring that honda 2L turbo up to almost 300 horsepower it puts an even bigger smile on your face😊
We've seen the 2.0L Accord in action, it destroyed us in a drag race with the Buick Regal GS we featured a couple weeks back, and the Accord was completely stock. It's a very underrated engine!
@@PRNTestDrive thank you for your reply.
I can't wait to receive mine it's on order coming from the factory should be here sometime in October!😊
I realize it's not as quiet as to counterparts but it definitely makes up for it in a lot of other areas, I'm getting the 2 L 10 speed touring model. I already have some plans for upgrades. Including the tune.
Very nice! You'll definitely enjoy it, that 2.0L Turbo is the one to get.
Waiting for next gen mqb vw passat
So are we, we acknowledge that the Passat needs a serious update.
I bought a low mileage used 2013 VW CC 4 Motion, fully loaded, most expensive vehicle VW makes outside of that big SUV, in 2015. Drive it regularly, sometimes hard. Have put in nothing but routine maintenance and premium Shell fuel, expensive yes, but I knew that going in. Not a single problem, love the VR-6 motor though it's a little thirsty it's smooth as silk. Great in the winter in Ohio.
I love it, very satisfied. I had owned nothing but American and Japanese vehicles prior, including a couple Hondas, which I liked. My next vehicle will be VW's CC replacement, forget the name off the top of my head. Arteon, maybe.
Glad to hear it! The Arteon is VW's next full-size sedan, but I'm not sure if it's a direct replacement for the CC. We haven't done any research on either car, but the CC is considered a mid-size vehicle, I believe?
Not certain but I believe the Arteon is VW's replacement for the CC. I bought my CC because I finally wanted a top of the line German car but could not afford anything but a basic BMW or Merc, never cared for Audi.So I bought a lightly used CC 4 Motion and could not be more happy with it. The little things, confident braking, steering, suspension, the heated/cooled/massaged seats, engine. Yes it's not perfect, and the maintenance and fuel is expensive but it is a well engineered machine and I will purchase the Arteon when available.However if the Accord V-6 was available with 4WD I would definitely consider it, if not prefer it. Acura's are WAY overpriced.My CC 4Motion kills it on ice and snow.
We'll have to see if we can find one of these to feature then! I think both the CC and Arteon have that 'coupe' design to them, like the Mercedes CLS-Class. Either way, we'll add them both to our list to feature! Glad to hear you're enjoying yours!
I bought the Accord over the Passat because of the full ADAS suite alone.
Definitely makes a difference.
Amo muito o PASSAT, o Honda é uma carroça perto dele.
You should better compare the touring turbocharger 2.0 Accord to the VW Passat Reline the first one will easily win in all plans power torques and features
You mean the Passat VR6?
I’m looking for a newer Passat than my 2008 Passat Kormfort with the V6. Volkswagen has taken away the V6 engine on the new ones and kept the 2.0 liter four cylinder turbo! Volkswagens are n’t as reliable as the Hondas. Passats have good power with 2.0 liter four turbo but the V6 would have less gas mileage but less stain I think.
The big benefit of VW's inline 4 engines is fuel economy, we didn't do our controlled testing with this Showdown but I'd say the Passat would end up being more fuel efficient, but reliability is where it would be let down.
VW Passat all day long. But the VR6 GT version not the four banger.
I was hoping to try that one out but didn't get a chance.
VW seriously needs to improve their interior design compared to today’s standard. I dont know why they are going with the same interior design with minimal change. 2018 accord has seriously modified their interior look that makes it more eye soothing compared to old passat similar interior design. If the make it upto todays trend then passat will be my all time choice ✌🏻
Even the Mk8 Golf basically has the same basic interior, and the quality on that has gone down from what I’ve heard too.
The Passat is older than the Accord. The Accord has just been all new from the ground up. Which one depreciate faster.
It'll be interesting to see actually. Both cars tend to hold their value better than others.
People are really blind, just watch the review again, so many small points and features on the Passat that significantly impact practicality,performance,handling,safety, and comfort, it has the edge over the Accord, and not to mention the ergonomics. It also looks miles better,far more elegant, and classy, those taillights on the accord are ridiculous lol designed by a 5 year old.
Honda Accord not on sale in Europe since 2013
Interesting, I figured sedans were still popular over in Europe compared with our market here.
Honda prepare for the Arteon VW is much better quality!!! It all depends how well you maintain your vehicle ...
I think the Arteon is going to be an interesting vehicle to launch over here, to see how it ends up fitting into the marketplace.
Too bad both company's dropped the V6 engines....
It's a trend I suspect we're going to continue seeing as time goes on.
The passat feels like an audi no doubt
how tho they make the cars blink like that?
Unfortunately it's due to the frame rate of our cameras, the LED lights create that effect when the camera's shutter isn't fully in sync. I believe something like the Canon 5D Mk. IV is able to adjust for this and clean it up.
thanks
I always wondered,
I kind of thought they were hazard lights but wasn’t sure.
Accord for sure are better i have owned both cars in the past the Passat looks more luxurious but when it comes to durability and mechanic issues the accord is way better all it need just regular oil change and thats it but the passat after 2 years it will spend alot of time in dealership or mechanic place especially when it comes to the electric issues it will take all your money so stay a way from it i am really happy with the accord and i will have always an accord thats my plan
God damn that vw looks like it’s from the 1990’s.
VW is the new conservative design language, which used to always go to Toyota.
The volkswagen is built much better and owned by vw the best he materials are that of good craftsmanship and engineering,sorry honda is a reliable car but you get what you pay for,the passat is a poor mans Audi,i had 10 through out the years and its the market is following the 2.0t trend,all your favorite cars are owned by VW lol Bugatti,Bentley,Rolls Royce,Audi ,Porsche,Ducati,Lamborgini,so they doing something right the cc was the breakthrough
Japan, Korea, German? German made hands down! I have them all and the passat is the best!
Only 20 year olds would pick the Honda
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Only people who actually know about cars and value would pick the honda accord 2.0t