Hardest lesson in grading (for me) has been context. Color is perceived relative to other color, so not only is this a subjective discipline, it's annoyingly relative. You saw how red Chris' clip looked after staring at Qazi's. And you said in your head "I didn't think it was so red before...". Because our eyes/brain have a built-in white balance, the colors of a scene will always be influenced by the colors of the prior scene. And also influenced by the color of the wall behind your monitor, or the lamp light on your desk.. It's a fascinating pain in the ass.
Good comment - it's called "Successive Contrast" it occurs when the perception of currently viewed stimuli is modulated by previously viewed stimuli. You'll notice that Chris didn't use scopes to judge anything which put him onto to a total display referred environment. I don't know what he uses for a display, but my bet is that it is also going through the operating system as well. Qazi does have the right gear and it is set up for color grading to standards. ( I'll give him that much credit )
Never heard of Qazi, never seen any of his work, but in about 2 minutes flat he blew me away. What a master. Takes something so complex, like color grading, and makes it look effortless and easy. Looks like I've got a new channel to follow and learn from.
Took his full course a couple of years ago. His approach is... fine, I would say. If I may, I would recommend you to check out Cullen Kelly's content, I really like hia approach. Hope you'll find it useful
Ooooh this was dope! Yours ws more stylized and felt personal, Qazi's looks more polished as if it was for a commercial of something. I'm digging more of the personal touch
The main difference is that Qazi balanced the tint of the shot by removing the excess of red. That's what makes it look more natural in my opinion. Great video Chris!
Qazi's! After 17yrs of premier I switched 2 months ago to DaVinci Resolve and just canceled my Adobe cloud subscription. So much better on every level.
A few things to keep in mind, when following Qazi's workflow here: 1. He started out making a V-Gamut V-Log to Rec.709 gamma 2.4 CST, but the next moment had a node tree setup with two CSTs, one on the first (IDT - input device transform) and one on the last node (ODT - output device transform). This allows him to always work in the same "working color space" regardless of the footage (V-Gamut V-Log) or display (Rec.709 gamma 2.4). 2. Using editable splines on the top and bottom points instead of creating many points on the custom curves often leads to a smoother result when creating an S-Curve. 3. When using power windows, prefer ovals and gradients over the curve (pen) tool. This is first because of workflow speed and secondly because when the subject moves or changes shape (perspective), the precisely drawn curve can stop lining up with the subject. Also don't forget to track your power windows that need to line up with a moving subject. 4. He also skipped over adding halation, which he had on the final image (second to last node "hal" seen at 07:32). This is my 2c.
are you sure there's halation active or did he just leave the node in his default node-tree. because usualy halation is used when trying to emulate film and except for some artistic grain he didn't convert to cinetone and used a film lut in the process.
@@arielshpitzer I won't judge whether halation fits in such a look, but overly strong halation can be seen in the final image. Especially around top guitar string and necklace.
@@KaurH it atcually looks like a mistake applied localy because halation should be on the edges of the brightest lights and there's none on the lamp which should be the first one affected if it was shot on ilm.
This is like a 4 producers 1 sample video but with video instead!!! Can you do this again but with other video creators / color graders? This was so educational!!
Hey Chris, One thing when using conversion LUTS, it should always be on the top/last layer. This way you wont throw away any information in your highlights/shadows. Another tip - In Premiere rather than adding a bunch of adjustment layers in the timeline, you can instead stack Lumetri color effects in the effects panel and rename them in order to give you a layered workflow at the clip level.
@@Joshua_S you want your conversation LUT (or CST) after temp/tint layer/node, then you can adjust primaries/contrast. Then you can add any film LUT or creative look/LUT after all of that.
The only crappy part is that Premiere automatically puts you on the last lumetri instance - so if I wanted to adjust exposure before the Transform LUT lumetri instance, I have to double check I'm on the right instance - and I never am and spend time going back and clicking the right one.
Qazi's edit looks less red and fits the mood better. I'd recommend using something like a color rite video checker to get the colors correct and go from there. Everything creative is best done from a accurate color starting point
With all due respect to you @Chris Hau, Qazi did a much better correction. You have a good master as a friend, so learn from him ;)
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First of all: If you ask about Qazi to ANY professional colorist around the world, specially the ones in Hollywood, they will tell you that the guy is a joke. There's a lot of people around the internet talking about the way who he talks with people. I had an experience with him one time and it was not good too. But at the end of the day, for me it really doesn't matter who he is. What botters me, and lots of other professional colorists, is that what he teaches most of time is NOT how we work. It's not even close. Other times he just repeat himself thousand times... Other times he just says "power windows, power windows, power windows". And sometimes he just make things looks harder than they really are. Just one example: There's not one single professional colorist in the world who uses secondaries in main looks. MAYBE and just MAYBE in some publicity works, which are short 30 to 60 second videos, we do some secondaries and masks as main look. But majority of the works, that's not even good for the project. You don't need change the original photography, you will not be able to maintain the consistency in a big project using secondaries as main look and IF u can, will take too much time to do it (and will never be perfect). And he teaches and show all the time using secondaries as main look. Secondaries are SECONDARIES. They are made to correct specifical things. They are not made for main look. Another example: color grading is NOT ABOUT CHANGING THE ORIGINAL PHOTOGRAPHY. And what he and some "instagramers colorist" does it's make people think it is about this. Looks like colorist should change everything in post. And this is just two examples of things that he teaches wrong or shows as he is doing "a great work". There's a lot of "how to copy some look" too... And come on... SAY THAT PROFESSIONAL COLORISTS ARE LAZY? Lazy? Are you kidding???? So you're saying that great colorists are lazy and qazi is amazing? Please dude... Tell me that you was paid to record this video... I'll not to mention the big ingratitude that this guy has with the ones whe learned. I met Qazi in some old color grading groups when he was nobody. He learned from the professionals and he NEVER mention names. He never talked about the greatest guys form where he learned his technics and sometimes he even claims some other people technics, or at least he lets people goes with the flow and think that he is the genius behind that. Make a favor for the community and delete this video. And for those who thinks in follow qazi, just please pay attention to the market and look for real good references as Mixing Light people, Darren Mostyn, Daria Frisson, Walter Volpatto, Marc Willeage, Culken Kelly, the people from CSI and ICG and etc.
I like watching Qazi's channel as he genuinely performs magic with his colour grading. I hope Qazi does well out of this little visit to your channel. Even the free version of Davinci Resolve, knocks spots off Premier Pro when colour grading or even just simple editing, doing special effects or adding sound design/narration. Why would you NOT want the best crafted product for your clients? Yes Resolve has a learning curve but so did Premier Pro, when you started out with it years ago. They are basically the same concepts. In Premier Pro, if you have a colour grading idea then you use an Adjustment clip. In Resolve, if you have a colour grading idea you use a Node. Nodes works much the same as Adjustment Clips, but rather than a load of Nodes (Adjustment Clips) hogging up your Timeline, the Nodes are on their own separate page and follow in a line from a start point to an end point, with as many or as few colour grading ideas (Nodes) as you want in between. Did I mention that Resolve is completely free, while you have to pay a monthly subscription for Adobe stuff? Even the paid for Studio version costs just under £300. Don't answer this question out loud, but how much have you spent renting Adobe Premier Pro? Take what I say with a massive pinch of salt. You have half a million subscribers while I have a couple of hundred subscribers, with an average of 50 views per personal amusement episode. However, I don't regret a single day buying the Studio version of Resolve. Noise Removal and Voice Enhancement alone justify buying the Studio version. To help you learn the everyday basics in Resolve may I suggest a RUclipsr called MrAlexTech. He will get you up and running in on time and greatly reduce that learning curve.
Nice thorough analysis, Frank. 👍 But, one thing you might want to know is he will make way more money on his affiliate commissions for Adobe. They still pay far more for people to sign up using his link vs Resolve...at least for now. 😉
For those of you who have absolutely no clue what was going on in Qazi’s workflow/tools, jump on Cullen Kelly’s RUclips channel. He’s a professional colorist who breaks down the tools and workflow with objective measures so you can better utilize Davinci’s power. Hope this helps!!!
@@theqazman The amount of value you get for the price you pay is ridiculous! Super grateful that you took the time to build this masterclass, and that you genuinely want help us, and see us succeed! 10/10🔥
Switched to DR when I switched from Windows to Apple M1. I'm a beginner at editing and still cant mess with color grading but I think DR is a good investment, feels much better than Adobe Premiere and it keeps getting better and better.
Hmmm… as my eyes see it, Chris made a Creative look and Mr.Q made an natural look for a solid base to work further on. Whats best, A natural look or creative look? That depends on what you where going for, a bit unclear what objective was…color grading….?
Qazi should have tracked all the power windows. I have a feeling he did, but he didn't do it in the tutorial. The framing and the idea of a that big plant behind you is also a concern. I think the vignette could be darker on that side to quickly go to darkness with a gradient. I think that you calling yourself a lazy colorist is only reflected in the fact that you could actually learn Resolve and not try to use Premiere to do the job. There is nothing wrong with how you graded it - in situations where you need to match camera angles and do hundreds of clips, simplicity is a virtue. The only power windows might be to dodge and burn shortcomings in the lighting set up. And putting grain near the front of any node tree, is a mistake that Qazi keeps pushing. Any texture that is smoothed after a grain node - ruins the grain. So if you don't plan on doing any smoothing on skin or any other texture smoothing - including the halation ( which he is putting at the end now) is a mistake. As I pointed out to him on his channel - do a test. Add film grain at or near the front and turn on "Grain only" , then look at any power window with exposure changes ( gain ) and then look at any place where you remove mid-detail or blur, and it is pretty obvious that putting the grain at the front is screwing the grain itself. Then drag the grain node near the end of the node tree and the grain stays as you put it. Simple test that will open your eyes. I think that Qazi weighed in so heavy into this workflow that he is not admitting to it being a mistake. The analogy of it being there when film was scanned from the negatives, is correct information, but at that point they just did Printer lights and didn't have the digital workflow to do much of anything else. So if you are going to reproduce the film workflow, then don't bother adding power windows or glow, or anything else from a modern workflow. Adding a film grain is to emulate the final image not reproduction of film scanning. But with all that I think that you sell yourself short, it appears to me that you have a good eye, just need to learn the tools a little better.
Chris I'm your fan and your grading looks very nice. No offense but Qazi's one is my favourite and it's no surprise 'cause he's sooo good at what he does. I especially liked his choice for the skin tone and I'm sure we all learned a lot from this video, yourself included. Thanks a lot for such a great idea and please do more of these very educational challenges!
Qazi's grade FTW. To me, your grade seemed very "two-tone" and lacked depth. Whereas Qazi's had both mood and depth nailed down. Loved the collaboration. Would be cool to see you two do this again.
I’ve watched a LOT of Qazi’s tutorials and something that he often emphasizes is separating foreground from background. This is what makes Qazi’s grade stand out here. He balanced the image well (particularly the blacks) and adjusted the lighting to define the spaces within the image. Chris’s contrast looks okay, but his colors are very monotone in comparison. This can be done well like in Bladerunner 2049, but it would require bringing down the saturation more, and adding the color after the saturation node. In the end Chris’ image looked like the colors were competing too much for the audience’s attention, leading to a muddy results.
I liked your grade as you were doing it, but seeing them side by side I think he did a little better. It was the redness of your overall image that made me pick his. But pretty close otherwise as far as the overall flavor of the images!
So glad to hear you are finally moving over to davinci. Can't wait to see some color grades out of it. Honestly the editing and sound design potential is pretty solid as well.
I loved both, but Qazi is a master in his job so it would be too easy to say him I guess ahaha One thing that you forgot while talking about the qualities of the S5, is the Braw externally, and in davinci, you can even push it more than the standard Vlog internal.
Chris I'm sorry but your workflow is worse than our interns in our small production company. 5 Adjustment layers for a single clip? Just add multiple Lumetri Colors on a single adjustment layer....
Resolve will beat Premiere always with grading, it’s just better.. When you have a pro at the noise, premiere has no chance.. flip the softwares and see you do in Resolve Chris
Definitely move to Resolve. I'm personally over the whole pay to play subscraption. Buy the program and move on or use the free version of Resolve and still have more versatility than Premiere. Once I find a great alternative to Lightroom that isn't pay to play I'll move to that too.
Hey Chris nice video bro, but I like Qazi more, yours is not bad but for my taste, it has too much saturation or too much contrast but nonetheless great video. Full disclaimer though I am not a pro colorist but I am learning a bit more because I feel like I am just like you hahaha.
On my thought in color grading it will depends on your preference you are happy on the result you produce then its fine. Unless It's a job for a client and they have a preference style that they want. But as long as you're happy on the result you make there is no right or wrong in there so be it you don't have please everybody.
After Qazi finished his edit I was expecting to prefer Chris's edit instead mainly cause I thought his looked a lot more vibrant. But after the comparison I actually prefer Qazi's edit. Even though it's color graded it looks more natural and it just feels more right while Chris's warmer tone felt a bit too much and just didn't fit the tone.
Definitely his grade, I mean so soooo much more depth! Now, honest question, I really don't understand why more people aren't using Resolve. I've been using it for a bit over 3 years and it seems so intuitive I can't fathom using something else.
I absolutely loved this video, really nice and enough details in both approaches and of course the pro did a whole lot more in terms of the fine details, but the final look ... I gotten say yours is much more appealing to me, somehow it just connect better to me and more pleasing to look at
Love that you & Qazi collab on this. I took Qazi course and it changed how I graded within 30 days. You definitely should switch over to Davinci Resolve
For the color tone and ambiance I prefered your's. For all non-davinci user Resolve maybe a look like a little bit complicated but It is easy to work with it and a lot of goodiz. 3 years I'm with Davinci Resolve. I was on Premiere before.
Both grades are really excellent. It comes down to what is the narrative? What was the feel you were trying to convey through the image. If there was music that you were playing to go along with it, it would have gone much further into driving the "mood" of the grade. Having made the switch to Resolve and never looking back a few years ago, I'm actually quite impressed with the grade you got in Premier. Still, having watched enough of his content, Qazi went easy on you :)
Yep I really encourage the switch to resolve, it is just getting so much better with each update. And Lumetry is really just kin of a toy compared to resolve.
I always think you do a great job in color grading Chris but in this case, Qazi's skin tones were a little more natural and in my opinion, slightly better overall.
2 Years ago I wouldn't understand 1% of what they were saying but after using Resolve for the last 2 years everything they said makes sense and I can follow along with them comfortably !
I prefer your grade for your medium (RUclips) but hats off to Qazi for delivering a true movie-standard grade. It's all subjective and about creative choices in the end.
Both grades are actually pretty darn good. I personally like the Pro version a little more just because it's more subtle, but the right choice would be based on the context of the whole piece. I work with both resolve and premiere regularly and you kinda had the same methodology. I do feel like the toolset in resolve is MUCH better for this kind of work, not because it's more powerful, but more because it reduces the friction associated with doing small incremental adjustments.
You both took footage and made them stand out. Unless a client was looking for something specific…I think both would make a customer happy. It was great seeing the process from both of you. I learned a lot and I just subscribed.
"And the magic Happens"......... @theqazman rulez!!! yeah Chris, you have to switch, Davinci is the best 😁 thank you, really a good content, as usual!!
This to me highlights that you just need to do your grade, learn, and move on and keep creating. Chris’ look was great, then Qazis’ was brilliant too. If you saw either without knowing the other existed you would enjoy it equally.
Qazi’s is much better. (Sorry Chris) Also, something I noticed during your grade is that your room was super bright which is the worst place to judge color. 🤓
Hardest lesson in grading (for me) has been context. Color is perceived relative to other color, so not only is this a subjective discipline, it's annoyingly relative. You saw how red Chris' clip looked after staring at Qazi's. And you said in your head "I didn't think it was so red before...". Because our eyes/brain have a built-in white balance, the colors of a scene will always be influenced by the colors of the prior scene. And also influenced by the color of the wall behind your monitor, or the lamp light on your desk.. It's a fascinating pain in the ass.
SOMEONE HAS FINALLY EXPLAINED MY PAIN!! This is the best comment I've ever seen haha thank you for this.
Good comment - it's called "Successive Contrast" it occurs when the perception of currently viewed stimuli is modulated by previously viewed stimuli. You'll notice that Chris didn't use scopes to judge anything which put him onto to a total display referred environment. I don't know what he uses for a display, but my bet is that it is also going through the operating system as well. Qazi does have the right gear and it is set up for color grading to standards. ( I'll give him that much credit )
This was brilliantly written. It reminded me of Douglas Adams a little too be honest.
This is BRILLIANTLY written because it IS a fascinating pain in the ass.
Yes it is bro.
Never heard of Qazi, never seen any of his work, but in about 2 minutes flat he blew me away. What a master. Takes something so complex, like color grading, and makes it look effortless and easy. Looks like I've got a new channel to follow and learn from.
Took his full course a couple of years ago. His approach is... fine, I would say. If I may, I would recommend you to check out Cullen Kelly's content, I really like hia approach. Hope you'll find it useful
Appreciate you, brother. ❤
Ooooh this was dope! Yours ws more stylized and felt personal, Qazi's looks more polished as if it was for a commercial of something. I'm digging more of the personal touch
CHRIS YOU DO ALL, I LIKE YOUR COLOUR
Wait!
Its supposed to do basic adjustment layer below the LUT conversion no???
Thanks for having my on your channel bro. I'm honored. ❤
Also, you're way too modest. Love your look. 😍
So we’re gonna ignore the .. on the guitar
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂…I think we should ignore it
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What?
@@MrHombre at 6:51
Pen15.
The main difference is that Qazi balanced the tint of the shot by removing the excess of red. That's what makes it look more natural in my opinion. Great video Chris!
but overdone.
Mine choise is quazi + some red for realistic tones
Qazi's! After 17yrs of premier I switched 2 months ago to DaVinci Resolve and just canceled my Adobe cloud subscription. So much better on every level.
A few things to keep in mind, when following Qazi's workflow here:
1. He started out making a V-Gamut V-Log to Rec.709 gamma 2.4 CST, but the next moment had a node tree setup with two CSTs, one on the first (IDT - input device transform) and one on the last node (ODT - output device transform). This allows him to always work in the same "working color space" regardless of the footage (V-Gamut V-Log) or display (Rec.709 gamma 2.4).
2. Using editable splines on the top and bottom points instead of creating many points on the custom curves often leads to a smoother result when creating an S-Curve.
3. When using power windows, prefer ovals and gradients over the curve (pen) tool. This is first because of workflow speed and secondly because when the subject moves or changes shape (perspective), the precisely drawn curve can stop lining up with the subject. Also don't forget to track your power windows that need to line up with a moving subject.
4. He also skipped over adding halation, which he had on the final image (second to last node "hal" seen at 07:32).
This is my 2c.
Spot on. Regarding 1. Qazi probably also jumped into Davinci Gamut as his working color space in between transform nodes.
@@FernwehChronicles that is the correct way to do this. i did not understand why he moved straight to 709.
are you sure there's halation active or did he just leave the node in his default node-tree. because usualy halation is used when trying to emulate film and except for some artistic grain he didn't convert to cinetone and used a film lut in the process.
@@arielshpitzer I won't judge whether halation fits in such a look, but overly strong halation can be seen in the final image. Especially around top guitar string and necklace.
@@KaurH it atcually looks like a mistake applied localy because halation should be on the edges of the brightest lights and there's none on the lamp which should be the first one affected if it was shot on ilm.
This is like a 4 producers 1 sample video but with video instead!!!
Can you do this again but with other video creators / color graders? This was so educational!!
Hey Chris, One thing when using conversion LUTS, it should always be on the top/last layer. This way you wont throw away any information in your highlights/shadows.
Another tip - In Premiere rather than adding a bunch of adjustment layers in the timeline, you can instead stack Lumetri color effects in the effects panel and rename them in order to give you a layered workflow at the clip level.
"conversion LUTS, it should always be on the top/last layer" the first thing I was thinking...
This is actually not true
@@Joshua_S you want your conversation LUT (or CST) after temp/tint layer/node, then you can adjust primaries/contrast. Then you can add any film LUT or creative look/LUT after all of that.
The only crappy part is that Premiere automatically puts you on the last lumetri instance - so if I wanted to adjust exposure before the Transform LUT lumetri instance, I have to double check I'm on the right instance - and I never am and spend time going back and clicking the right one.
@@Joshua_S Same
I like qazi's grade because it fits the mood, tone, & the setting.
Been learning from him since 2020, his work is superb🔥😎
Qazi usually has WAY too many steps and arrives at a result that you could get with half as many nodes.
@@drthalasiren4411 for real, he uses a huge node tree when you only need a couple of nodes
@@drthalasiren4411 Having those extra nodes available for global adjustment is just right. Too many is just right for most colorist
Appreciate the love my dude.
Qazi is a cringe sack.
Qazi's one looked like I want to grab some pop corn.
YES... DaVinci Resolve YES, YES! It is such an amazing program. And... you only have to make a ONE time payment for the studio version!
Qazi didnt color grade the clip, Qazi fixed lighting.
Qazi's edit looks less red and fits the mood better. I'd recommend using something like a color rite video checker to get the colors correct and go from there. Everything creative is best done from a accurate color starting point
The collab I'm so excited to see!
With all due respect to you @Chris Hau, Qazi did a much better correction. You have a good master as a friend, so learn from him ;)
First of all:
If you ask about Qazi to ANY professional colorist around the world, specially the ones in Hollywood, they will tell you that the guy is a joke.
There's a lot of people around the internet talking about the way who he talks with people. I had an experience with him one time and it was not good too.
But at the end of the day, for me it really doesn't matter who he is.
What botters me, and lots of other professional colorists, is that what he teaches most of time is NOT how we work. It's not even close. Other times he just repeat himself thousand times... Other times he just says "power windows, power windows, power windows". And sometimes he just make things looks harder than they really are.
Just one example: There's not one single professional colorist in the world who uses secondaries in main looks. MAYBE and just MAYBE in some publicity works, which are short 30 to 60 second videos, we do some secondaries and masks as main look. But majority of the works, that's not even good for the project. You don't need change the original photography, you will not be able to maintain the consistency in a big project using secondaries as main look and IF u can, will take too much time to do it (and will never be perfect). And he teaches and show all the time using secondaries as main look. Secondaries are SECONDARIES. They are made to correct specifical things. They are not made for main look.
Another example: color grading is NOT ABOUT CHANGING THE ORIGINAL PHOTOGRAPHY. And what he and some "instagramers colorist" does it's make people think it is about this. Looks like colorist should change everything in post.
And this is just two examples of things that he teaches wrong or shows as he is doing "a great work".
There's a lot of "how to copy some look" too...
And come on... SAY THAT PROFESSIONAL COLORISTS ARE LAZY? Lazy? Are you kidding???? So you're saying that great colorists are lazy and qazi is amazing? Please dude... Tell me that you was paid to record this video...
I'll not to mention the big ingratitude that this guy has with the ones whe learned. I met Qazi in some old color grading groups when he was nobody. He learned from the professionals and he NEVER mention names. He never talked about the greatest guys form where he learned his technics and sometimes he even claims some other people technics, or at least he lets people goes with the flow and think that he is the genius behind that.
Make a favor for the community and delete this video. And for those who thinks in follow qazi, just please pay attention to the market and look for real good references as Mixing Light people, Darren Mostyn, Daria Frisson, Walter Volpatto, Marc Willeage, Culken Kelly, the people from CSI and ICG and etc.
color grading is like art. eventually you will see how technically it is and learnt couple tips for chris! its amazing
color grading is more of a craft than an art
I like watching Qazi's channel as he genuinely performs magic with his colour grading. I hope Qazi does well out of this little visit to your channel.
Even the free version of Davinci Resolve, knocks spots off Premier Pro when colour grading or even just simple editing, doing special effects or adding sound design/narration. Why would you NOT want the best crafted product for your clients?
Yes Resolve has a learning curve but so did Premier Pro, when you started out with it years ago. They are basically the same concepts. In Premier Pro, if you have a colour grading idea then you use an Adjustment clip. In Resolve, if you have a colour grading idea you use a Node.
Nodes works much the same as Adjustment Clips, but rather than a load of Nodes (Adjustment Clips) hogging up your Timeline, the Nodes are on their own separate page and follow in a line from a start point to an end point, with as many or as few colour grading ideas (Nodes) as you want in between.
Did I mention that Resolve is completely free, while you have to pay a monthly subscription for Adobe stuff?
Even the paid for Studio version costs just under £300. Don't answer this question out loud, but how much have you spent renting Adobe Premier Pro?
Take what I say with a massive pinch of salt. You have half a million subscribers while I have a couple of hundred subscribers, with an average of 50 views per personal amusement episode. However, I don't regret a single day buying the Studio version of Resolve. Noise Removal and Voice Enhancement alone justify buying the Studio version.
To help you learn the everyday basics in Resolve may I suggest a RUclipsr called MrAlexTech. He will get you up and running in on time and greatly reduce that learning curve.
Nice thorough analysis, Frank. 👍 But, one thing you might want to know is he will make way more money on his affiliate commissions for Adobe. They still pay far more for people to sign up using his link vs Resolve...at least for now. 😉
Qazi Rocks, been following him for years... Of-course Qazi's looks better, After seeing his, your looks way to red and orange..
Thank you, bro. FCM Fam ✊🏾
Both look great, but I think Qazi's wins, somehow brings out the soul of the shot for me. Just looks stunning and super professional, like a film.
I actually like Chris's more
For those of you who have absolutely no clue what was going on in Qazi’s workflow/tools, jump on Cullen Kelly’s RUclips channel. He’s a professional colorist who breaks down the tools and workflow with objective measures so you can better utilize Davinci’s power. Hope this helps!!!
Qazi's grade was just exquisite! Your grade was pretty good too but there are way more controls in Resolve to really nail it. Great vid!
Are you a bot or fake account commenting for that cringe sack Qazi?
Qazi's FCM class was a game changer for me! Strongly recommend👌 Great video, Chris!🤘
Same here bro 🙏🏽👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Let's go! FCM fam 💪🏽
@@theqazman The amount of value you get for the price you pay is ridiculous! Super grateful that you took the time to build this masterclass, and that you genuinely want help us, and see us succeed! 10/10🔥
Switched to DR when I switched from Windows to Apple M1. I'm a beginner at editing and still cant mess with color grading but I think DR is a good investment, feels much better than Adobe Premiere and it keeps getting better and better.
Hmmm… as my eyes see it, Chris made a Creative look and Mr.Q made an natural look for a solid base to work further on.
Whats best, A natural look or creative look? That depends on what you where going for, a bit unclear what objective was…color grading….?
Part 2
Davinci is a much better editing progam. Switch Chris
Qazi won for the grading as well as his adult nodework at 6:50
Actually chris?! I genuinely love ur edit more than Qazi’s
Qazi should have tracked all the power windows. I have a feeling he did, but he didn't do it in the tutorial. The framing and the idea of a that big plant behind you is also a concern. I think the vignette could be darker on that side to quickly go to darkness with a gradient. I think that you calling yourself a lazy colorist is only reflected in the fact that you could actually learn Resolve and not try to use Premiere to do the job. There is nothing wrong with how you graded it - in situations where you need to match camera angles and do hundreds of clips, simplicity is a virtue. The only power windows might be to dodge and burn shortcomings in the lighting set up.
And putting grain near the front of any node tree, is a mistake that Qazi keeps pushing. Any texture that is smoothed after a grain node - ruins the grain. So if you don't plan on doing any smoothing on skin or any other texture smoothing - including the halation ( which he is putting at the end now) is a mistake.
As I pointed out to him on his channel - do a test. Add film grain at or near the front and turn on "Grain only" , then look at any power window with exposure changes ( gain ) and then look at any place where you remove mid-detail or blur, and it is pretty obvious that putting the grain at the front is screwing the grain itself. Then drag the grain node near the end of the node tree and the grain stays as you put it. Simple test that will open your eyes. I think that Qazi weighed in so heavy into this workflow that he is not admitting to it being a mistake. The analogy of it being there when film was scanned from the negatives, is correct information, but at that point they just did Printer lights and didn't have the digital workflow to do much of anything else. So if you are going to reproduce the film workflow, then don't bother adding power windows or glow, or anything else from a modern workflow. Adding a film grain is to emulate the final image not reproduction of film scanning.
But with all that I think that you sell yourself short, it appears to me that you have a good eye, just need to learn the tools a little better.
Chris I'm your fan and your grading looks very nice. No offense but Qazi's one is my favourite and it's no surprise 'cause he's sooo good at what he does. I especially liked his choice for the skin tone and I'm sure we all learned a lot from this video, yourself included. Thanks a lot for such a great idea and please do more of these very educational challenges!
Qazi's grade FTW. To me, your grade seemed very "two-tone" and lacked depth. Whereas Qazi's had both mood and depth nailed down. Loved the collaboration. Would be cool to see you two do this again.
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I see that what Gazi done is better in my eyes, sorry😄. But i'm still curious. Why gazi add grain? What is grain for??
I’ve watched a LOT of Qazi’s tutorials and something that he often emphasizes is separating foreground from background. This is what makes Qazi’s grade stand out here. He balanced the image well (particularly the blacks) and adjusted the lighting to define the spaces within the image. Chris’s contrast looks okay, but his colors are very monotone in comparison. This can be done well like in Bladerunner 2049, but it would require bringing down the saturation more, and adding the color after the saturation node.
In the end Chris’ image looked like the colors were competing too much for the audience’s attention, leading to a muddy results.
I liked your grade as you were doing it, but seeing them side by side I think he did a little better. It was the redness of your overall image that made me pick his. But pretty close otherwise as far as the overall flavor of the images!
Yep
So glad to hear you are finally moving over to davinci. Can't wait to see some color grades out of it. Honestly the editing and sound design potential is pretty solid as well.
Qazi, wins. Not just in the grading, but also the subtle peni5 drop. 😏👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I loved both, but Qazi is a master in his job so it would be too easy to say him I guess ahaha
One thing that you forgot while talking about the qualities of the S5, is the Braw externally, and in davinci, you can even push it more than the standard Vlog internal.
You both are doing good color grading but when it comes to choosing one of you I have chosen Qazi
Chris I'm sorry but your workflow is worse than our interns in our small production company. 5 Adjustment layers for a single clip? Just add multiple Lumetri Colors on a single adjustment layer....
Resolve will beat Premiere always with grading, it’s just better.. When you have a pro at the noise, premiere has no chance.. flip the softwares and see you do in Resolve Chris
Definitely move to Resolve. I'm personally over the whole pay to play subscraption. Buy the program and move on or use the free version of Resolve and still have more versatility than Premiere. Once I find a great alternative to Lightroom that isn't pay to play I'll move to that too.
Chris, moving to Resolve is a move you should've made 3 years ago already.
No hate for nobody but... omg why people are still using premiere pro
Pro is better :D Yours is too red :D
Hey Chris nice video bro, but I like Qazi more, yours is not bad but for my taste, it has too much saturation or too much contrast but nonetheless great video. Full disclaimer though I am not a pro colorist but I am learning a bit more because I feel like I am just like you hahaha.
On my thought in color grading it will depends on your preference you are happy on the result you produce then its fine. Unless It's a job for a client and they have a preference style that they want. But as long as you're happy on the result you make there is no right or wrong in there so be it you don't have please everybody.
Love this! you gotta do more stuff on Color grading with colorists!
So Chris is thinking of Switching to Resolve Seems Sam Kolder was right After All
How come other color graders talk about maintaining skin tones but I never see them adjusting for it?
bro sorry but Qazi's is the best!!! I like qazi's grade
Much love.
imo the main problem with the lazy grade is the white balance (waaaay off) so there is no color separation.
Sorry Chris but Qazi was better yours looked good just a little too red for my liking but great job
After Qazi finished his edit I was expecting to prefer Chris's edit instead mainly cause I thought his looked a lot more vibrant. But after the comparison I actually prefer Qazi's edit. Even though it's color graded it looks more natural and it just feels more right while Chris's warmer tone felt a bit too much and just didn't fit the tone.
Always love your colors, but damn Qazi laid down the hammer
Definitely his grade, I mean so soooo much more depth! Now, honest question, I really don't understand why more people aren't using Resolve. I've been using it for a bit over 3 years and it seems so intuitive I can't fathom using something else.
I absolutely loved this video, really nice and enough details in both approaches and of course the pro did a whole lot more in terms of the fine details, but the final look ... I gotten say yours is much more appealing to me, somehow it just connect better to me and more pleasing to look at
Love that you & Qazi collab on this. I took Qazi course and it changed how I graded within 30 days. You definitely should switch over to Davinci Resolve
Let's go!!! FCM Fam ✊🏾
i liked your color grade...until i saw qazi's
For the color tone and ambiance I prefered your's. For all non-davinci user Resolve maybe a look like a little bit complicated but It is easy to work with it and a lot of goodiz. 3 years I'm with Davinci Resolve. I was on Premiere before.
This is amazing!! I've been watching you and Qazi for a while, I am so pumped for this collaboration!!
Thanks for the love, Zach. ❤
Qazi wins. :)
Chris, I love you, man. But Qazi took the Gold for this.
It makes me so happy when my friends link up and create!
Chris's headlights disappeared in Qazi's dust.
6:52 I can't be the only one seeing that, right?...
Well sorry but it’s qazi baby😄🍿🍿🍿
Sorry man; nothing to do against the ONE……;)
both look cool but I like the skin tone on Qazi clip.🔥
Both grades are really excellent. It comes down to what is the narrative? What was the feel you were trying to convey through the image. If there was music that you were playing to go along with it, it would have gone much further into driving the "mood" of the grade. Having made the switch to Resolve and never looking back a few years ago, I'm actually quite impressed with the grade you got in Premier. Still, having watched enough of his content, Qazi went easy on you :)
Yep I really encourage the switch to resolve, it is just getting so much better with each update. And Lumetry is really just kin of a toy compared to resolve.
Qazi’s because of it did’t have as much reds
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Been a Davinci user for a few months now and I am loving it! Never going back to PP. Qazi's takes this one. :)
qaz is far from a professional colorist sorry
I liked Qazi's color grade beter.
Bro!!! Move to Davinci!!!! You'll love it
I always think you do a great job in color grading Chris but in this case, Qazi's skin tones were a little more natural and in my opinion, slightly better overall.
If i going with Qazi’s CG because he knew how to do all those stuff and tonality without messing skin-tone. Love this video Need more dude ;)
2 Years ago I wouldn't understand 1% of what they were saying but after using Resolve for the last 2 years everything they said makes sense and I can follow along with them comfortably !
I prefer your grade for your medium (RUclips) but hats off to Qazi for delivering a true movie-standard grade. It's all subjective and about creative choices in the end.
Both grades are actually pretty darn good. I personally like the Pro version a little more just because it's more subtle, but the right choice would be based on the context of the whole piece. I work with both resolve and premiere regularly and you kinda had the same methodology. I do feel like the toolset in resolve is MUCH better for this kind of work, not because it's more powerful, but more because it reduces the friction associated with doing small incremental adjustments.
qazi
Qazi all the way ! Sorry bro 🤪
FINALLY DAAAAAAVINCIIIIII RESOOOOOOOLVE
Qazi’s was nuts omg. And yes join DR🎉
Qazvi’s is my preference. Looks more naturalistic.
Qazi's looks amazing and moody
You both took footage and made them stand out. Unless a client was looking for something specific…I think both would make a customer happy. It was great seeing the process from both of you. I learned a lot and I just subscribed.
Both are FIRE!! But FCM Fam wins tonight!!
ayyyyy 💪🏽
"And the magic Happens"......... @theqazman rulez!!!
yeah Chris, you have to switch, Davinci is the best 😁
thank you, really a good content, as usual!!
So great to learn something! Please more of such videos!
i know im childish but 6:54
This to me highlights that you just need to do your grade, learn, and move on and keep creating. Chris’ look was great, then Qazis’ was brilliant too. If you saw either without knowing the other existed you would enjoy it equally.
Qazi’s is much better. (Sorry Chris) Also, something I noticed during your grade is that your room was super bright which is the worst place to judge color. 🤓
I’m here for Qazi’s shirt