@@backpunk8439 “this is just a show” you do realize we become what we indulge in the media and like he states in the video a lot of these fans are actual kids so why couldn’t they have made this show more modest? it’s not that serious but at the same time it is 🤷🏽♀️
@@backpunk8439 You can love Jennie and admit that this show is super weird. I've been a BLACKPINK fan for years and I absolutely despise this show. Bad Jennie scenes do not fix it.
@@backpunk8439 well when I was 16 or 15 I saw a movie about period. Before watching that movie I was very shy about my period and felt really uncomfortable to buy one for me. But after watching that movie ot inspired me so much that I started talking about period casually. So a movie can leave this much impact on audience
@@_ohe_hehehe_6970 broo this show is already rated 18 + , so the minor audiences or weak audiences should not watch it. Simple dimple. The ones who take impacts just should not wacth it
The hatred for this show is so forced. It all seems like it’s born out of a strange morality policing reminiscent of the satanic panic of the late 80s and 90s. I can’t recall a more mistaken piece of art in recent memory. It reminds me of Charlie Days’ stale Hollywood satire in Fools Paradise. There’s also a beautiful Paul Verhoeven balance of absurdity and beauty. Lily Rose Depp is demonically angelic and convincing in all aspects. This show is a cult classic in the making. Everyone will all of a sudden love it in a few years time
@@nickalem5692 not really, trust me people who watch euphoria and ones who watch kpop are oftentimes very different. I literally tried seeing this fir jennie but hated it. And I didn't even touch euphoria because it's bogus.. different viewers are seeing this, no wonder the reviews are different
i know jennie is an adult and she knows what she’s doing, but considering that most of her fans are minors truly worries me 😭 my little sister is 13yo and she was about to watch the serie because of jennie until i told her it wasn’t appropriate for her age, i had the luck that i’m constantly checking out what is my sister watching on the internet but i know there are many minors out there who aren’t supervised by their parents and are watching this kind of series because of their favorite singers
Their song are all about bullying other women, kids should not listen to BP, in my opinion no one should listen to them, if you know someone who like them you know that you should not be friend with her, only bullies and mean girls like BP.
@@Devi_Seona So i'm a bully for liking Blackpink now 😢😢 welp at least i'm not as judgmental as you. Judging someone based on their music taste only is a bigger red flag than listening to Blackpink. Also they have never bullied other women or anyone in their songs, they had like one song with poor lyrics choice (Typa Girl) but their 40 other songs are fine so you're just reaching.
It's sad that the show actually had SO MUCH potential to be good. The message that lily's highlighting truly needs to be talked about (idols getting exploited by companies, idols getting replaced after any messups, idols dealing with both mental and physical issues, idols getting homesick and missing their families etc.), but ofc they had to add those meaningless rape scenes/dialouges that no one asked for. Lily's pov should've been the main point of that script.
I can’t believe people were complaining about the dancing?! That’s the most PG13 part of the show. 😅 it’s also has a reason for the story. It’s a social satire of female pop stars exposing their young “tween” fanbases to hyper sexuality, and how record labels will package this sexuality and sell it to children. They literally say in the show her demographic is 14 year old girls with a straight face….that’s the joke!!!! People didn’t get that?! Media literacy is at an all time low. 😐
Because they don't want to actually give a good message. These shows have their own agenda. The more time goes on, the darker it get's, to make perversion the new normal. They don't even do it subconsciously anymore, they want to desensitize people to topics like r*pe. It is reversed psychology right there. They pretend to then manipulate.
@@nameisamine you can say that again, media literacy is literally at an all time low. ppl have really deluded themselves into thinking art is supposed to teach us moral lessons. it's no wonder that cultural products are so stale right now. it's ironic cos in their attempts to (performatively) consume only 'good moral' art, today's consumers have been duped into glossing over any mildly uncomfortable piece of media that tries to make these consumers confront their complicity in the exploitative culture industry. judging by the hysterical discourse around a show (that has yet to even conclude), it seems ppl think a show about the evils of the pop culture industry should be peachy clean and all girl boss fantasies. and mind u, these will be the same ppl who will be the loudest endlessly waxing poetic about a celebrity suicide.
The irony is that there was another writer who was going to make Lilys character main, solely focused on her, but The Weekend just had to replace her with Sam and that god awful Tedros character😂🙄🫤
"Certain people can run poison in your life so watch out who you surround yourself with." Is a good message even if the show did an awful job writing it. It also summarise how I feel about Jennie. I feel like the more she surrounds herself to these famous stars, the more she will emulate them, hence, why I think she accepted this role. Everything you said about her is perfectly said. I find shows like these trashy and vulgar, and I don't think Jennie would need them. However, I also think she is grown and probably chose it to break free from this image that she is pure and innocent. Either way, I don't care what decisions she make. It won't change my view of her since I'm not her fan and never will be.
Break free from an innocent image? To me, personally, it seems that that’s the exact opposite of her true intentions. She often times reminds her fans of how shy she truly is, and how truly scared she can be in public situations. I think this role fits in with her Blackpink image and it has nothing to do with her personal life, other than the desire to work with Levinson. Which is completely understandable for someone her age and industry. Euphoria was undeniably stunning and artistic to watch.
@@Evute02 you also forgot the fact euphoria is sexualizing minors and it was made by the same person. The acting saves it but let's not ignore the fact there are actresses in euphoria asking levinson to delete some nude scenes cuz they were uncomfortable and they called him a creep
@@mammonsimp6973 I didn't watch Euphoria but I believe it supposed to tell the reality of drugs and trauma. But from what I hear on the news, it seem like it also goes against their own messages with their actors by overly sexualizing them. It makes it seem like the directors are stuck with showing the "horrors of drugs, sex and trauma" while forgetting the actors are human. Anyway, I'll never watch Euphoria cause I can't stand overly done nudity.
@@mammonsimp6973 I understand your point. However, Jennie likely put her focus into his artistry and work itself, not the allegations or controversies associated with him, since she is herself an artist and in the industry. Ultimately, it was her desire and her choice to be part of the project regardless. So, what she saw is what she got. As far as I’m aware (please tell me if I’m wrong) Jennie was casted before Levinson had even entered the picture, so can we really blame her for making the best of the situation she and her fellow cast were put in?
Her (and others) experience on set was probably fantastic, considering her commentary. In the end, she got to make friends and be part of something as much as anyone else. There is so much we pick up from rumours and allegations to use against particular people these days that there is no open discussion or real discourse about the project. Yeah, show sucks either way (like the majority nowadays) but the people involved are at such a centre of focus that the show itself seems like a shadow rather than the entire point lol. It’s all so one-sided and negative. You see what i mean?
I dont know how many times people have to tell you all that Jennie signed up for the series when there was a female director. Sam and his changes came later on when she was already under contract. Not to mention dropping out could have gotten her blacklisted from Hollywood. Or she just doesn't care either way.
@@somelikeitposh no stop lying...she wasn't part of the original cast she begged sam Levinson to be a part of it. And she can read the script beforehand
jennie even went to cannes to promote this film, praised sam lots of time and even stated that " this experience helps her to be herself" 😂😂😂 girl just wants to debut as an hollywood actress even it absolutely damages her own image and lowers her value.
Yeah ikr. I don't mind jenni acting in Hollywood but like this being the show as her debut is just questionable...especially since she has alot of young fans.. And hbo is known for its explicit shows so idk why she agreed to this :/ ( someone's sure to comment "she's a grown women she can do whatever she wants" ..)
I feel like she wasn't properly advised. And thought this was going to help her enter Hollywood like game of thrones or something, in exchange for providing the shows a bunch of views. But this was a bad fit for her, and it sucks that this might jeopardize her career despite the show only benefiting from her presence and fans.
@@Rita-kx3yrstop acting like she’s a dumbass. She read Sam’s script and literally said in an interview that she thought it was amazing. She saw all the scenes romanticizing mental illness and SA and thought it was great. *She* chose this and if *she* gets screwed over it’s completely *her* fault
I can't believe that Jennie tolerated a script that says " being rape-y is cool" She knows her English well and she is a grown woman, and she knows her audience would be her fans who some are minor. She should hold some accountability for this instead of her fans blaming it all to production. At the end of the day, she agreed to this slutty, rape-y enthusiast role, for fame or money maybe? still an L choice for sure.
Do you really, like really think she knew what others film? Or that she had more than vague description of the show and 2-3 max pages of what she will film? Your people are too naive.
No she shouldn't. She's an adult and she's allowed to participate in the media she wants to act in. You people don't know what 'accountability' is because you're like 15 years old at best and shouldn't be watching adult content in the first place.
@@lme918 Don't tell she went into shooting that not knowing that the film is about? Now that is Jennie being naive . Maybe she has few lines, but surely she knew what she agreed to.
@@lme918you are naive. You never watch any filming process? Any actors with dialogues, especially with big name like Jennie get a script. She got invited in the promotion fly to Cannes and all over media promoting it but is not important enough to get a script? 😂
WHY DID JENNIE EVEN AGREE TO BE WITH THAT TRASH DIRECTOR. Some jennie fans are still saying 'omg she is an adult she can do WHATEVER she wants.' Yeah but this is such a vulgar thing. Also why does she like Sam, like from what she said it seems like she and Sam have talked. Like bro what? Sorry but Sam is a bad director. She is a grown woman and im sure she wasn't god dang forced to be in this show. She could have left but i suppose she wants to be in this crap show. I agree alot with you, same opinion as i do.
Jennie wasnt originally part of the cast she was casted by sam after they had a brief discussion this all was confirmed by jennie herself in that interview .in fact jennie wanted to be on the show bec she did like sam's few works. So no she wasnt forced or anything and she won't leave it either bec oviously it doesnt make sense since she already had talked with sam regarding this project. Personally i think she probably took the project to build up strong connection in the industry i mean if the story wasnt bad n all she would have blown up even more. Even now she already got tons of attention and as some say there is no such thing as negative publicity. Just think after this exposure if she managed to land a better role fans would most probably forget about this one or something.
@@syminreed3922 that’s the problem, fans don’t take this seriously as they should. jennie should start taking these vulgar roles if she leaves the group AKA removing her from her cute bubbly idol image completely. she cant have her cake and eat it too. korea being a conservative country means she either stays in blackpink and stays bubbly and cute, or leaves and does whatever the hell she wants. back in korea, this show is affecting her group negatively. if she wants to act in a vulgar show she should think of her members who are also getting negative attention from her actions and make the right decision.
@@cherinyu_shes bringing the groups image down by taking this vulgar role, she needs to make a decision because at this point blackpink is either disbanding, going inactive, or just descending into fire because... this isnt working. 😭 it feels slightly selfish to me.
Lily rose depp is doing great in the minuscule parts that are not porn. Her acting had huge potential to show and highlight the struggles of a female singer in the music industry. And honestly I don't even know what to say about Jennie. Her acting is decent I guess but this role... I'm not sure about why in this whole wide world she decided to take this role. People are defending her saying she was trapped in a contract and whatever. Bro she has enough money and influence to get out of that contract if she wanted to. I'm not hating on her. I'm just genuinely curious. And that pathetic excuse of a singer (not Jennie but the misogynistic one) should go rot in hell.
Not defending Jennie, because she verbally defended Sam Creepinson, but the contract problem is not between her and the show. It's between her and her company. Korean laws are very lax about contracts, so idol management companies are the opposite. Company want company do.
I read that the emotional scenes Lily did that people like, are the ones that were filmed by the female director, who was making a thought provoking show and not an incel fantasy.
The day people stop glorifying the western culture ( sex, drugs, booze), the beauty of art would emerge. Jennie accomplished everything by herself and she should be proud of them. Rather than pleasing the western world , all artists should focus on promoting their own country and culture. Even Bollywood people lost their creativity and credibility due to such western fetishes.
Western culture and sexualization of female celebrities in particular is disgusting people don’t look at talent they look at how little they are wearing and acts they do 🤦♀️
Sex, drugs, and alcohol isn’t a feature unique to ‘western culture’. It’s no surprise that since Hollywood and other western companies have such influence, of course other countries are going to imitate them.
Yeah I mean lead actress is a bit much. Her acting abilities aren’t very good but I see potential that she can improve. But I agree any other show would’ve been better for her debut
Nowadays role's like Jennie's are considered cool and the actors get a lot of attention (she did get it but in a negative way) cuz of such roles maybe that could be a reason she didnt back off from this show or maybe cuz she is entering Hollywood or maybe its western validation. Personally I didnt like Jennie's acting, I didnt get any villain vibes from her while delivered that line(I know its her first time in acting she will definitely improve if she takes more acting projects). On a positive side her expressions while dancing were really good. I dont have any problem with that sexual step she did but yeah a lot of blinks are minor.
she literally did nothing and her role was a joke that anyone could fill. I blame that more on the director and producers (not Jennie before yall come for me) because they wanted Jennie from blackpink to advertise not an actress.
@@arex9000 while that is true.... actors do get the scripts beforehand...and its just a bad show. I dont get why you d your first big project be in a show that normalizes r*pe, mainl when most of your audience are minors. Not ot mention.... If you are doing sth that is on the moral line today, you can bet you will be cancelled for it in a few years. I still like Jennie and BP, I just think it was a horrible business move.
I actually read somewhere that Jennie got casted AFTER the female writer and director got fired.. So she probably knew the script that got rewritten by Sam Levinson and TheWeeknd
@@tatherlit People are forgetting how well connect Sam Levinston is in Hollywood. Had she backed out it would have been a breach of contract plus her getting blacklisted in Hollywood. People also love to discredit how she is only a "side character" yet it is all they are talking about!
@@somelikeitposh she is one of biggest artist in the entirety of the show course she is more criticized . And she joined with Sam after the story changed she had no intentions of backing out
@@somelikeitposh Sam Levinson isnt bigger than Jennie,what are you talking abt? Every actor /actress who dropped out of Euphoria season 2 found new jobs and they arent nowhere near as famous as Jennie and even if that was true do you know how big of a company YG is? YG put T.o.p(bigbang) in Squid Game 2 despite him being convicted of drug charges
Right. This is the portrayal of a character from a show that is quite dangerous amongst young audiences like Jennie and blackpink's vast fanbase. R and S/A isn't cool its traumatising.
@@StellaKouevi-uu3seit was even said "mental illness is sexy" like who you playing at? Any mental problem isn't cool or sexy, it's a hard thing to deal with in life
"She can do whatever she wants" Yeah, if an adult robs a bank or murder someone, I guess the excuse as a defense is "she's an adult, she can do whatever she wants" 💀
@StellaKouevi-uu3se I think that's the point , dyanna or jennie is meant to be a snobby selfish person , what she said isn't meant to be right , she's messed up like Jocelyn , maybe tamer than Jocelyn tho , and they do say as a warning that the show contains abuse , she's at the end of the day playing a character, if someone plays a role of killing people brutally, it' traumatizing event but it's just acting , someone playing a child predator , that's messed up but that's the point, it's acting Not denying sam isn't a creep tho
@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100 I think if this show was written by a Korean writer. It could've been different. They have made tons of show with such sensitive topics but it's stil great. Maybe the way they built the characters in this show didn't make the audiences feel sympathy.
4:47 I do not think it’s unfair because of the fact that she willingly acted in a tv show that praises and idolizes rape, misogyny, S/A, and the list goes on. also, she literally said that she’s a fan of Sam’s work, and that even when she knew that the show was going to be like this she decided to play part of it and insisted Levin-whatever his name is to add her.
I wouldn’t make a big deal about praising a director or producer’s work. What else is she going to say? She can’t criticize because she runs the risk of being blackballed or coming off as having a big ego. Her role on the show is so minor that people will forget about this in a few months.
Do you expect her to talk badly about him in a interview? When victorious was airing all the actors said positive things about the director, when the show ended the actors spoke about how shitty the director was. Another huge example is dove cameron, she used to talk positively about disney when she worked with them and when she left she also spoke negative about disney. It's not something difficult to grasp
@@AB-nk5wvit’s not the fact that she praised him. It’s the fact that she reached out to him, got him to put her on the show, to which she described as “it worked out miraculously”. To which she justified with her being a fan of aaaalll his work. You’re ignoring the key point. She did not praise him just to praise him, she praised him as a reason for her approaching him.
@@AB-nk5wv “I’ve always been a fan of all his work.” “I’ve always been a fan of all his work, so I contacted him like “hey can I be on the show” and it worked out miraculously.” It’s different.
The show was originally meant to show the exploitation of women in the music industry, but it turned into exactly what it was trying to demonise. The original director was fired when 80 percent of the film had been completed, so they had to completely start from the beginning with a new head director. The OG director was fired because she was making the perspectives too ‘womanly’. Under her control, the script went into detail about the cult and less significant characters, which added depth to the storyline. It also apparently showed Jocelyn to be more of a victim of exploitation (rather than the official version, where she literally was very open to the idea of being used).
Preach. I still can't understand why Jennie took this acting role, but my best take is that she was fed up with korean standards, the hate comments and the constant scrutiny and tried to pull a Miley Cyrus, but massively backfired. The show is not good, the pacing is atrocious and idk how people can support the weeknd after this. I'm so sad about everything overall, I love Jennie and we all make mistakes, I see this as a wrong career move but hey, I'm just some rando on the internet.
I mean she has been networking when she goes to LA with some stars. I think it was a chance for her to get her hollywood break and showing people she can be more than just BP. I also heard they cut alot of her scenes in the final script versus a cameo. It pretty much a cameo with her little screen time.
Yeah but jennie has been doing this for so long in concert she dress to revealing and at parties she act like a hoe but the tjing that concern me last the minors who go there with the intention to see there idol
ruclips.net/user/shortsG-J4oQ2GRQQ?feature=share Jennie can do anything and blinks will defend her. She wore cornrows in the idol blinks are trying their hardest to remove all the videos, jennie left the concert and two days later she went hiking. She maintains her "I'm an innocent person" image and then goes out personally to work in such a show. Edit: and yes I was correct blinks are here defending her
Exactly. Some fans will defend her no matter what she does and slap on the same excuse that “she’s an adult, she can do whatever the hell she wants” which is yes, she can do whatever she wants but that doesn’t mean every wrong thing she does will be right, wrong is still wrong. I think those fans just can’t accept the fact that Jennie isn’t perfect, no hate on her but she’s also a human and she’s not perfect, she makes mistakes, other times she makes bad decisions and as they already says, she is an adult, she’s not a naive kid, she’s mature enough to think twice before she makes a decision
how does she maintain her innocent image? If anything since the past year shes been acting like what an almost 30 year old woman should act! For the cornrows one, its pr9ven that the weeknd put her in it and if he as a black man has no problem why do non blacks do
bcz maybe she relates to it, this show is abt an idol mentally disturbed and you know how idols are treated in reality, this show is not some fairytale but a disgusting and harsh reality that happen in world.
It's not known if she agreed or not, there is a possibility that she didn't because of kpop contracts (very exploitative industry) but at the end of the day, she did defend Sam Levinson after the controversy. I guess she would get flack from her company if she didn't, but I doubt that they would kick a member of the group that keeps the lights on.
Lol exactly, idk why people think kpop idols are angels they will never have prevented side, surely HBO used her to make kpop fans worse like her. No offense
My friend was so excited to watch this as she loves Blackpink and Jennie 20 mins into 1st episode she furiously shut the laptop I was LMAO every 2 minutes. The dialogs are so off and to be fair the show is just all over the place
You have a friend who like BP??? You could change friend then, only people who like BP are evil and mean girls, that’s a good sign that you should run away from her.
@@noonchucksagreed. This isn’t rlly her “Hollywood debut” or “ acting debut” bc this is clearly a clout grab, no slander to Jennie personally bc she’s js doing what she’s gatta do to branch out or gain clout but this wasn’t rlly a showcase of any skills she has (if she has any bc idt she’s had acting experience before thisj
@@noonchucksit wasn’t YG who made her go on the show. She personally contacted Sam to ask for a place in the show. YG is the least controlling when it comes to Jennie.
Sorry, not sorry..Jennie is not actress material. Honestly, if she wasn’t an idol, she would not even be noticeable. She can’t act. Neither can the rest of the cast except maybe Lily Rose (but she also should not have taken this role). Also, the plot of this series, if beyond disgusting and traumatizing for so many people. The fact that the cast signed up for this KNOWING the disgusting premise, shows their mentality is just super messed up. It’s gross.
I think most of the supporting cast didn't know the full story as a lot of them are now refusing to participating in the promotions Apparently their scenes that they shot with the former director are being used and they didn't know the full story
People are surprised Jennie's company didn't pull her from the project entirely, since kpop idols have such strict rules with what they can say/be involved in, etc. And I feel like that's even more telling of her as a person & and how much she's gotten caught up with the seemingly glamorous but actually disturbing nature of this industry the moment BP gained fame in the west. But it's literally not just her - it's a problem with all of the actors, and they should be held accountable for partaking in this shit.
I mean how do Blackpink's current or new contract look like? They could all leave YG and have successful solo careers based on their insta following (70mil+) alone. So I think they must have more freedoms than they used to have.
jennie got signed by sam levinson by her own request and she said she even reccomended some directions he can go w her character, I think she just wanted to break into Hollywood as well and being best friends w the weeknds gf it was the perfect opportunity. I don't understand how anyone in the cast didn't see the problem w the script
THANK YOUUU. Alot of blinks keep saying "she was in the original script"....saying "she was used". She knew what she was getting into. Imagine getting a role you know nothing about. Don't know what the shows about. Like bfr she knew what she was getting into.
i think that cz euphoria got rly big, thy were hoping to make this an euphoria 2.0 and there's some similarities in the tropes asw but it ws jst a big wtf moment instead of breaking out like euphoria did 🤷♀🤷♀
Only two episodes have been released and right from the get-go, thing aren’t looking too good for the actresses that are apart of this show. People love to speak on Jennie’s regards and how this show is doing nothing to give her a morale boost, instead it’s tarnishing the idol persona that she’s always been known for since the start of her career. However, I’d like to speak more about Lily. Her dad is arguably one of, if not the most renowned actor, and yet all she gets to do is to play some exploited bimbo in a soft-corn show? As if this isn’t the worst female lead script that she could’ve received, but she had to act along side someone like The Weeknd as well? This show isn’t just portraying women being exploited in the industry, it’s really happening before our eyes. This is just flat out horrific.
hope your comment gets more likes. it is quite literally horrifying and sickening to see this level of exploitation of women. it’s crazy how it’s 2023 and this is still a huge, ongoing issue. haven’t women been hyper-sexualized, objectified, and taken advantage of enough already? i genuinely wonder when this shit treatment will come to an end entirely :/
i think maybe lily took on a role like this to separate herself from “johnny depps daughter” and establish herself tho it’s such a heinous role and i’m sure she will regret it in a few years but her acting is really very good,,, makes me sad the original concept was scrapped
@@hieevee2547 I totally agree, Jocelyn isn’t a good look for her. I’m sure there are better female lead rolls out there similar to Jocelyn but without all the crappy dynamic you know
This is hands down one of the best reviews I’ve ever seen. Clear, gets straight to the point and most importantly, you see things from different sides when it comes to Jennie in particular and you don’t take a one sided argument, allowing for everyone to understand the context properly. Hat’s off to you.
Jennie is ruining her career by herself... This sudden acting career was unnecessary 💀 I mean she could've at least acted in a good series, not po/rn 🤷 she obvi knows that she has a whole kid's Fandom watching her why did she do this? I really love her. I do. I was a fan of hers since 2017-2018, but now she wants to enter the world of Hollywood so badly, and this is strange. I hope this does not affect Blackpink, especially in South Korea (no hate tho Jennie fans don't come at me 🫂) - update | she absolutely doesn't deserve the hate she's getting 💀 its too much
And she dance lazily on asian country concerts and give invalid reason like " she is tired " " she is sick " she is always sick tired over worked when it's comes to performance and this sh** going on over years and still some people defending her without knowing what they're doing.
i also doubt that jennie ruining the group’s image, they have enough fans and the media will forget about this soon enough whatsoever she definitely didn’t do herself a favor with that "acting" debut
Nah they are too popular right now to fall from grace just bec of this one show beside am also sure as soon as she takes up another better role people would forget about it (me included lol) .
@@syminreed3922 i agree tho i personally don’t see potential in her becoming a good actress but she is privileged enough to get another role in the hollywood industry
@@eun1806 exactly my point its not about just potential in film and music industry right connection and money is what is needed to get opportunity to blow beside we gotta cut her some slack i mean this is literally her first acting gig so am sure this is room for improvement anyway i dont really watch this kind of shows or movies or anyway so dont really care i just hope she so continue in her rap career tho since debut this is something i have really looked forward to for jennie the most.
I just think that Jennie is ready to break out of the kpop idol image, just like Zendaya did with her Disney Channel good girl image by participating in Euphoria, which is no different from the idol. I do agree that she could've find better role. I think the whole K-pop image is stupid, because imagine pushing 30 and not being able to even publicly date without fans being upset or getting bash. I honestly don't blame her.
Its good to break the kpop idol image but a celebrity with influence as big as jennie is expected to do so in a rather positive way, probably where theme is to impart some positivity in terms of mental health and eliminating misogyny which are literally problems in kpop, this show does the exact opposite
Thank you!!! Honestly I get the same vibes as when Sulli was slutshamed and look what happened to her. Artists are allowed to take risks and change their image without being scrutinised like they killed a puppy
I see they were tryna go for Jennie being the villain and whatever, and as a fan of villains and antagonists myself, I believe Jennie definitely has the charisma for it, especially in the right light. Or like the super likeable anti-hero that people love more than the MC because their character is much more interesting. But this show painted her out to be some oversexualized, jealous fake friend?? Or snitch??? instead of her own individual character which really fucking sucks 😭 I personally believe she deserved much better but yk she is a grown ass woman who can do whatever she wants, so to each it’s own I guess. Also this show having a lower rating than Velma is _crazy_ LMAO. But I also get it because aside from the oversexualized dialogue and mannerisms, it doesn’t really seem all that interesting like it did in the teasers and I’m kinda upset. Ah well
honestly i wish they kept the og person who wrote it. like i have no plans on watching this show but from what i’ve heard she wanted this to be more of a commentary about the entertainment industry then what we got
This show was so triggering for me, as someone who broke free of an abusive relationship, so much of the dialogue spirals me back into that awful world again and it makes me want to punch that creepy jerk every time he talks. The yelling, the possessiveness, and especially forcing someone out of their comfort zone are all signs of abuse and it’s horrible that the show tries to put a positive spin on it like “trauma unlocks your true potential and helps you find yourself”
for people saying "its not idol's prblm kids are watching the show", main thing is we see kpop agencies debuting even 13-14 year olds as idols, and for that they need to be trainee even before that age, so ofc younger kids are gonna be part of their target audience even if in small %age and when idols take part in individual projects those kids will automatically watch that. So it should be the responsibility of agencies to decide the target audience for their kpop grps not like at times they are doing kids stuff and then completely straight up adult shit and parents should be equally responsible for what their kids are watching.
i agree. its not just jennie, its every celebrity who should be held responsible for what they decide to participate in, especially if they have younger fans. "they do whatever they want" shouldn't be an arguement here, since kpop fandoms usually consist of underage people, who can easily be influenced. i also agree with your point, that if they were aiming for a younger audience originally, they shouldn't be surprised that people are shocked and disappointed over a role like this.
you're wrong, it should be the responsibilities of the parents, besides the show is r rated, the parents should teach the kids that r rated shows is not for kids
@@abcd3577yes exactly, that's the problem, glad you understand. She said she's a fan of sam and his works, do you even know what kind of things sam had worked on?
@@potatoezim yes! He has worked on one of biggest and critically acclaimed show ever made (euphoria), Assassination Nation, deep waters, bandits (literally all huge hits)
Spoken as a non-blackpink stan: I think people are overreacting with their "she destroyed everything bp has built up" or "i don't like her anymore after this". I think this show had potential when it was still about the female point of view, but we all know that's history now. I personally highly dislike the show, but that doesn't make me hate jennie or troye or whoever else. Like please ... some people really should act like adults or touch some grass.
First part I agree. She hasn't destroyed BP's rep. People forget that Jennie is not the most famous member everywhere the way she is in Korea. Yes she's big but the other BP members are also big. They'll be fine. I do disagree with your second point though. If people don't like Jennie anymore after this, that's their right. I personally find her less appealing as a celeb to follow now too. Not because of her doing some adult role but because she knew the type of show she was getting into and this show is extremely problematic. It's also why Abel has also fallen from my graces (more so than Jennie, he's actually vile for this).
Nah girl i think that since bp have ALOT more younger fans and minors,,…… this can actually influence them. Since shes one of the it girls there. But anyways yeah wtv
@@pinkxcute Hey! Maybe I came across wrong. Everyone's feeling about this situation is valid, so I don't want to invalidate your or someone else's opinion. I just wanted to make clear that malicious hate towards her and other actors involved are unfair.
Great review! the hate jennie is receiving is so unnecessary BUT as much as I love her, I think people are allowed to be disappointed. just not put it out publicly in a hateful and revolting manner. disappointment can be portrayed online via constructive and polite criticism. now you might say "oh jennie doesn't give af about YOUR disappointment" which is true. but still, as a free human being, we are allowed to be, provided that our public display of it doesn't cross certain lines. moving on, the reason I'm disappointed is that, no matter what blinks tell us, no jennie did not read the original script. she wasn't even IN the original cast when there was a female director. she was casted in AFTER Sam was made director and produced a new script. it was SAMS decision to cast pop stars and influencers (jenie, troye sivan). so yes, jennie read a script about an oversexualised, misogynistic, creepy, problematic, gross show, in which she has little to no importance (other than being someone jocelyn sees as a competition) and agreed to be in it. there is no message or symbolism or metaphor her character portrays other than "pretty asian girl who's good at everything the mc isn't". maybe as the show progresses we'll see more depth to her character? but as for now, there is absolutely NO reason for jennie to have agreed to be on this show. especially since her character gets no more than 5 minutes of screentime (the third episode is out as of my writing this, and she gets 10 seconds of screentime 😐). jennie, as an actress and as a human being, has so much more to give and portray and the idol is ruining it for her, and the fact that SHE chose it, just makes matters worse..
I see your point but reason why some people hate her is cause of Jennie has a lot of minor fans who might watch the show and it too sexual she said some thing she shouldn’t have said but blinks ignore it and praise her for her facial expressions and moaning sounds it messed up an disturbing I expected more from Jennie she supposed to be a role model all idols are to fans but now I see why she the most hated K-pop idol
@@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe I don’t even like black pink, but she literally owes nobody an explanation she’s a grown woman. If she wants that western validation, let her try to get it.
@@Steph489 if she grown leave her to solve her issues don’t be the one to make excuses for her she imature and reckless jisoo is and adult and behaves like one why can’t jennie
@@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe calling her an adult is not excusing her. It’s a literal fact the bitch is grown. If young kids watch it, it’s on their parents. She wants to promote herself as a sex object to fit into the Hollywood crowd. That’s on her. I truly am understanding why they call K-pop Stans crazy. She’s not the only person in the show, saying, and doing sexual things. But it’s wrong because she’s a K-pop idol and she has an image to maintain y’all are crazy 😂😂
I watched only the first epi and every lead actor acted awfully apart from LRD. Like I had the least acceptation from her but that she acted decently. That was my last epi from this series. And I think jeenie choose to be on the show because she thought it would be something like euphoria where every character became so popular that they all went to the top and she needed west validation and didn't care about the msg it's carrying. Very few actor think about the script msg and feel responsible for possible impact on their followers. And jeenie isn't one of them.
If you would have said this this a month ago I would have fight with you with my whole soul. Now when I heard she decided to be on the show in a dinner with weekend I realize everything she dose isn't controlled by yg. She choose everything and yg don't control her. So there's no way I can defend her. She's facing consequences for her bad choices just like she get praised for her gd choices.
Very good review! You took the words right out of my mouth also a side note: I really love the direction your channel is taking ^-^ keep up the good work!
I just love it when Blinks create a narrative that completely clears Jennie of any and all responsibility..Even if I accept the claim that the director was changed and the original story was scrapped in favor of this much sluttier version, I think Jennie should not be completely exonerated..She is afterall an adult with not only a massive following but also a major company behind her, and so when she saw that the show was turning out different from what she originally signed up for, she should have taken measures to not only release herself from further involvement in the show, but also have the scenes she has already filmed scrapped from the show that will be aired..I understand that she has very little say in the production of the show, that the choreography (which tbh was downright p*rn) and script (which also sounds like something out of p*rn) was outside of her jurisdiction, but she did not have to participate in either if she did not want to..This show is vulgar and trashy and I really do not understand why she associated herself with it in the first place..She clearly could have done so much better..I know that getting out of contract can be difficult, esp one in which I assume a huge amount of money was involved, but it should not be impossible, esp if some misinformation or deception was involved..I think her decision to be in the show is stupid at the very least and possibly downright irresponsible and selfish..I know she is a grown woman and should be able to make decisions for herself, but she should have also taken into account how this show will affect not only her band’s image and its members but also her fans, many of whom are actually minors..I know many would claim that the fans voicing their objection to this just want to control her so that she can remain the sweet innocent girl in their perverse fantasy, but I assure you, those fans are few and far between..BP’s concept is girl crush and their group targets to appeal to young girls and women who wish to identify with strong female role models, which is why this move by Jennie is really disappointing..Blinks who think she would be losing out if she steps down from the show are belittling her and overrating the show..The show is trash and she won’t be getting a lot from trash unless they recycle it into compost..The show just used her for clout..Tbh, I don’t think whatever she is getting out of it (be it attention or money or a foot into Hollywood) is worth what she possibly gambling away (right now she is already receiving a lot of backlash particularly in Asia which tbh makes up the majority of Kpop fandoms)..Blinks should stop coddling her and call it what it is..She should admit she made a wrong turn and course correct before she completely derails..
i was gonna watch it bc of jennie and then i was scrolling down on yt shorts for fun then i saw a clip of this 6:47 dance and i really felt super disgusted and decided not to watch it now ill watch it later THEN I SAW THIS VIDEO AND I REALLY NEVER WANT TO EVEN THINK TO WATCH IT, BRO YOU SAVED MY LIFE THANK YOU
Even if she willingly act in corn people will be “corn script is bad but Jennie slayyed😍😍” “she was forced to do it” “YG didn’t protect our baby🥺🥺” “she doesn’t have the choice, she had to do it😭”
It’s not something new , shows are just becoming worse and worse everyday and they’re losing it’s actual meaning of art and tragedy .. even for an adult it’s uncomfortable to watch too much sexual behavior .. it’s always 50% sexual scenes 20% romanticizing drugs and alcohol addiction ( even for f*ing minors) 20% overly repetitive propaganda things 10% of the actual story
while i agree that jennie taking part in this raised my eyebrow, people saying she dragged blackpink’s name into dirt are overreacting. she still brings a lot of attention to her group, this is a mere minor role and she’s doing pretty well for a first time actor. i just hate the whole premise and the change of plot, sam and the daysoftheweek who can’t act to save his life.
If this was the attention then I don’t think she should’ve bothered because this attention is ugly and disgusting! I just pray Lisa leaves that group as fast as possible, you have no idea how this will hurt blackpink as a group
Great review with balanced points of view. Please keep going! (Because honestly, I don't want to watch shows like this. But I want to hear objective opinions.)
I'm glad you lowered the camera a bit haha 😅 You looked so smol in the XO Kitty video lol. I loved your skits and was surprised to see you doing review/commentary videos, but you're doing a great job! Keep it up!
Jennie smoked some weed to accept to this role, or she is a fan of Euphoria and she thought that this show would be good as well. But she probably doens't know that Euphoria season 1 is a remake, so Sam don't deserve be praise by anything in terms of writting (season 2 is the prove, garbage), only the cinematography is something that he do well.
WAIT WTF EUPHORIA IS A REMAKE???!!!! geez am getting to know about this now 😂😂😂 anyway coming to your statement jennie did mention in an interview that she actually is a fan of some levinson's work so maybe thats why beside am pretty sure she knew this would give a huge exposure and connection to the industry which would be useful for future work in Hollywood.
Not gonna lie, if the original director wasn't replaced I think the series could've make a way better impact on Jennie's career. Edit: so it turns out that the og ensemble didn't include jennie at all
good review, thank you KC. jennie second handedly promoting rap* is fvcked up. i was in the entertainment industry in my teens and did receive severe sexual harassment, i still struggle ptsd in my adulthood. at the time, i thought it was something i had to tolerate. it's sad that this kind of show will make young girls/boys to think that tolerating rap* and sexual harassment is a good/cool thing + way to become a star. i think jennie hasn't experience rap* or sexual harassment in her career since she is well protected in this privileged huge company YG. i mean, good for her, i'm glad she didn't experience it, but it's a shame that it made her incompassionate towards millions of girls who actually get traumatized in the misogynistic r*pist friendly industry. billions of young girls/boys look up to her, and YES it's just a show and not a documentary, but shows do shape people's perception of the world, especially young people. i hope other super famous idols with massive influence will have morals + consider the consequences of what they promote.
Hate the show but I don't blame Jennie maybe not wanting to act like a little kid for the rest of her life, while still being dressed in a sexy way anyways which personally I find just as weird to expect of someone.
I think you guys are forgettting something. Jennie has always been potrayed as the baddie. She's always been the villain, the femme fattale, she was never seen as the cute girl, she has always been seen as the sexy diva and people have continously treated her as a maddona archetype who is two faced, untrustworthy. Therefore, From the outside looking in, i don't understand why everyone is suprised jennie chose to play the exact CHARACTER SHE'S BEEN MADE TO LOOK HER ENTIRE LIFE.
She is a k-pop idol not a western Idol...but Jennie want's Hollywood validation through this. Lol..... She better be in western things ....Her sexy in picture didn't clearly mean letting women in particular down....but this is a series and many are watching which is too much for even an adult..... Koreans are not very touchy physically like this , they don't fuck anyone on their first date or meeting bruh......and Jennie as a character did all 😂😂😂...lamao the hate was evident and couldn't believe she really praised the director 😂
That's honestly what I was thinking too! I thought it's Lisa who has that cute aegyo bubbly girl image and so it really didn't surprise me that Jennie took this role.
I personally don't see the problem with her acting sexy. What i find problematic is agreeing to work on a show that glorifies r*pe and does downright torture p*rn and just degrading towards women. And especially with how she joined the show after Levinson🤮 took over and agreed to work with him because she's a fan of his work. Dude is a serios creep who likes to humiliate women in his movies that look like his mom. Maybe she thought it would be a good idea because it would get her name out there in hollywood but it's just an icky and questionable debut choice
no gives a damn about the character she playing in the grand scheme of things, they care about the fact she not only is a fan of sam levinson’s work but she also chose to be in a show like this knowing what it’s about
Everything you said was so true. I myself am I minor. I just saw Jennie was having a show coming out called idol. I thought it would be about the life journey of an idol and how they got their through hard work. I wasnt expecting that tho. Also im always used to seeing the funny goofy side of you so when you got serious right here it shocked me.
i have no problems with the nudity, vulgarity, problematic lines and explicit content. i think it's absolutely fine for shows to have all those things. i think the idol made it extremely clear that it was going to be about that and that the show really isn't for children. i don't think they did anything wrong here by deciding to include those problematic lines or the sexually explicit content. my issue is that's it all done extremely poorly. it's unwatchable. those shocking lines, explicit scenes and their shock value are literally the only memorable thing about the show apart from the weeknd's strange acting performance :( i 100% agree that firing the previous director was the biggest mistake. turning it into a male gaze fantasy ruined all the potential it had and absolutely "single-handedly destroyed the show". you can see the potential and it's just infuriating when you see what became of it. i genuinly don't understand why lily-rose depp and jennie decided to stick around.
there is a line for everything , the script is so bad , the show at times too cringy to watch plus too much non necessary nudity and porn is still bad even for an adult
@@pinkpeonies__ I think y'all just choose Whom You should hate. Jennie is not got 1minute Screentime in 3 episodes combine. She's literally carrying that Show despite having No lines
4:57 the last sencence in this comment actually hits hard. Jennie can do what she wants but begin part of a girl group that main audience is young girls and playing such an objectifying role is really irresponsible.
First Jisoo's lead role debut, now Jennie's acting debut - both shows caused controversies. I don't understand why they're not being cautious while shifting from their kpop idol life to a career like acting which is more open to public scrutiny. And to know that it’s their own personal choices & not the company's to choose these projects just makes it messier. Like you're still only in your 20s when you're entering into acting. You basically have your whole life ahead to take up challenges to act in 'controversial' projects. So in your early stages of acting career, your goal should be to establish the fact that you can actually act. Your focus should not be to show everyone how 'different/versatile' you are from the cute idol image being set up by your company. It also should not be wise to stir up uproars among general public/viewers/own countrymen so early on.
@lluvs4noo I am not familiar with Korean politics or history but apparently Snowdrop portrayed misinformation regarding history of North & South Korea, therefore many South Korean tv outlets banned it from airing on their channels, netizens were angry about it etc...
No i don't think she is a victim in this situation, she know what she is getting into but i think she thought this would be hit because of the similar aspects of euphoria. Please stop trying portray her as a victim when no one know what goes on behind. And its pathetic you trying to do this only because of the hate if she was praised for the role, you wouldn't throw a pity party
It's obvious Jennie wasn't forced to do this. She obviously also knows the consequences of taking that role. So whatever happening to her, I'm not saying she deserves it, but I'm saying she was asking for it. So I don't get why people would even bother defending her and even victimizing her by saying she was forced to do it. She's clearly just doing what she wanted, so if you like it then watch it, if don't like it then ignore it. There's no point hating her.
Thank you for covering this, I'm really loving the commentary and hot takes lately. I absolutely love your songs and skits, but I enjoy the break down of topics like this. As a western born person, our media is saturated...no, it's drowning in everything being sexualized all the time. From hamburgers to cars, everything here is based on the phrase, "sex sells". So I am confused why she was getting such backlash from a movie roll. I do get it now, but I was a bit like "Who cares? It's a character in a movie....." I hope everything equalizes for the cast and they can move on from this disaster of a show! 😅
I actually hate it when kpop idols act like child, cute and innocent like they don’t understand anything when they are not. Every kpop group do this. I don’t know what's the problem of showing their true personality. Don’t they feel fake? I was into kpop before but not anymore beacause I felt It was destroying my mind. Korean ridiculous beauty standard, visual (they considered it as talent) and many more. If I leave a comment like I don’t like this song I was expected more.. the whole fandom will come to eat me. It's not normal anymore. Glad I got out from this.
I know it was Jennies choice but dan YG could protect her and tell her to go for a safer debut role and seires. A kdrama would be lit Jisoo made it big as an actress already with Snowdrop.
YG has absolutely no power when it comes to decisions like Hollywood. They might have suggested her not to go we don't know but at the end it's Jennie's decision whether to go or not. YG can't hold her back against her for western movies or series. They might have some power when it comes to kdrama but definitely not for anything outside Korea.
I would love to see you highlight and shed some light on other corrupt things being leaked on originally happy apps such as twitch, Tik Tok and Instagram
Thank you so much for this great review. I love how you didn't go against anyone or defend anyone and talked about everything from different points of view. I have been a blink for 4 years now and I know how dark the kpop industry can be and idols are forced to do many things. I was looking forward to the series but I am a bit disappointed of how sexual it is and how much nudity there is in it. But by the end of the say we can't force anyone to do anything just because we didn't like something about them. So it's completely up to Jennie and there are still some positive points in the series
Jennie is asking for criticism at this point. The show being 21+ isn't the problem, the problem is this show is trashy af. She probably has so many opportunities but chose THIS?!?! yeah she is a grown woman that's why she needs to hold accountable.
Ikr. Like u can’t say “she’s an adult and can do what she wants” and then say “I think it isn’t a bit of her fault bc she wasn’t fully aware” she can’t be a grown woman and a naive kid at the same time. Truth is she is an adult and she should be more aware of the decisions she makes, and be held accountable for the wrongdoings. And I’m not her hater, I’ve been a fan of bp and her since 2017, but some fans needs to stop defending her over everything.
@@hmmmk7630 it’s not just this series, it’s most of the Hollywood series nowadays, it’s all becoming pretty bad, they’re either about romanticising drugs, s*x, misogyny, mental illnesses, there’s not many good Hollywood shows or movies these days
People need to come to grips with the fact that Jennie wanted this And that regardless of what she did, People have no idea who these people are and what motivates them Branding
And plenty of women have broken into Hollywood without associating themselves with people like sam A role like this is not necessary to get into Hollywood
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“mental illness is sexy”, “he’s r*pey - i like that about him” - like WTF is wrong with them
bro this is juat a show, why being so salty
@@backpunk8439 “this is just a show” you do realize we become what we indulge in the media and like he states in the video a lot of these fans are actual kids so why couldn’t they have made this show more modest? it’s not that serious but at the same time it is 🤷🏽♀️
@@backpunk8439 You can love Jennie and admit that this show is super weird. I've been a BLACKPINK fan for years and I absolutely despise this show. Bad Jennie scenes do not fix it.
@@backpunk8439 well when I was 16 or 15 I saw a movie about period. Before watching that movie I was very shy about my period and felt really uncomfortable to buy one for me. But after watching that movie ot inspired me so much that I started talking about period casually. So a movie can leave this much impact on audience
@@_ohe_hehehe_6970 broo this show is already rated 18 + , so the minor audiences or weak audiences should not watch it. Simple dimple. The ones who take impacts just should not wacth it
I love how he addresses each and every controvery related to this and actually gives honest reviews whilst respecting the artits
artits
exactly artits.
artits bro 🔥🔥🔥
Yes I love the artits
Artits sounds like a disease mate
im not even gonna watch this show cause of how problematic it is. great review!
The hatred for this show is so forced. It all seems like it’s born out of a strange morality policing reminiscent of the satanic panic of the late 80s and 90s. I can’t recall a more mistaken piece of art in recent memory. It reminds me of Charlie Days’ stale Hollywood satire in Fools Paradise. There’s also a beautiful Paul Verhoeven balance of absurdity and beauty. Lily Rose Depp is demonically angelic and convincing in all aspects. This show is a cult classic in the making. Everyone will all of a sudden love it in a few years time
@@nickalem5692you can't change the way how this show is shitty even with 1000 words essay
@@nickalem5692 the acting and writing sucks so I doubt it
@@nickalem5692 not really, trust me people who watch euphoria and ones who watch kpop are oftentimes very different. I literally tried seeing this fir jennie but hated it. And I didn't even touch euphoria because it's bogus.. different viewers are seeing this, no wonder the reviews are different
so people think the weeknd acts good? damn, who do you watch to conclude this lol, watching him was like a try not to cringe challange.
i know jennie is an adult and she knows what she’s doing, but considering that most of her fans are minors truly worries me 😭 my little sister is 13yo and she was about to watch the serie because of jennie until i told her it wasn’t appropriate for her age, i had the luck that i’m constantly checking out what is my sister watching on the internet but i know there are many minors out there who aren’t supervised by their parents and are watching this kind of series because of their favorite singers
Their song are all about bullying other women, kids should not listen to BP, in my opinion no one should listen to them, if you know someone who like them you know that you should not be friend with her, only bullies and mean girls like BP.
@@Devi_Seona So i'm a bully for liking Blackpink now 😢😢 welp at least i'm not as judgmental as you. Judging someone based on their music taste only is a bigger red flag than listening to Blackpink. Also they have never bullied other women or anyone in their songs, they had like one song with poor lyrics choice (Typa Girl) but their 40 other songs are fine so you're just reaching.
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@@0cean6lueso you like misogyny??
@@user-hd4ex4ef1uoh cry me a river 💀 none of them are bullying woman they are just shading their copycats
It's sad that the show actually had SO MUCH potential to be good. The message that lily's highlighting truly needs to be talked about (idols getting exploited by companies, idols getting replaced after any messups, idols dealing with both mental and physical issues, idols getting homesick and missing their families etc.), but ofc they had to add those meaningless rape scenes/dialouges that no one asked for. Lily's pov should've been the main point of that script.
The Weeknd seems like a maniac
I can’t believe people were complaining about the dancing?! That’s the most PG13 part of the show. 😅 it’s also has a reason for the story. It’s a social satire of female pop stars exposing their young “tween” fanbases to hyper sexuality, and how record labels will package this sexuality and sell it to children. They literally say in the show her demographic is 14 year old girls with a straight face….that’s the joke!!!! People didn’t get that?!
Media literacy is at an all time low. 😐
Because they don't want to actually give a good message. These shows have their own agenda. The more time goes on, the darker it get's, to make perversion the new normal. They don't even do it subconsciously anymore, they want to desensitize people to topics like r*pe. It is reversed psychology right there. They pretend to then manipulate.
@@nameisamine you can say that again, media literacy is literally at an all time low. ppl have really deluded themselves into thinking art is supposed to teach us moral lessons. it's no wonder that cultural products are so stale right now. it's ironic cos in their attempts to (performatively) consume only 'good moral' art, today's consumers have been duped into glossing over any mildly uncomfortable piece of media that tries to make these consumers confront their complicity in the exploitative culture industry. judging by the hysterical discourse around a show (that has yet to even conclude), it seems ppl think a show about the evils of the pop culture industry should be peachy clean and all girl boss fantasies. and mind u, these will be the same ppl who will be the loudest endlessly waxing poetic about a celebrity suicide.
The irony is that there was another writer who was going to make Lilys character main, solely focused on her, but The Weekend just had to replace her with Sam and that god awful Tedros character😂🙄🫤
"Certain people can run poison in your life so watch out who you surround yourself with." Is a good message even if the show did an awful job writing it. It also summarise how I feel about Jennie. I feel like the more she surrounds herself to these famous stars, the more she will emulate them, hence, why I think she accepted this role. Everything you said about her is perfectly said. I find shows like these trashy and vulgar, and I don't think Jennie would need them. However, I also think she is grown and probably chose it to break free from this image that she is pure and innocent. Either way, I don't care what decisions she make. It won't change my view of her since I'm not her fan and never will be.
Break free from an innocent image? To me, personally, it seems that that’s the exact opposite of her true intentions. She often times reminds her fans of how shy she truly is, and how truly scared she can be in public situations. I think this role fits in with her Blackpink image and it has nothing to do with her personal life, other than the desire to work with Levinson. Which is completely understandable for someone her age and industry. Euphoria was undeniably stunning and artistic to watch.
@@Evute02 you also forgot the fact euphoria is sexualizing minors and it was made by the same person. The acting saves it but let's not ignore the fact there are actresses in euphoria asking levinson to delete some nude scenes cuz they were uncomfortable and they called him a creep
@@mammonsimp6973 I didn't watch Euphoria but I believe it supposed to tell the reality of drugs and trauma. But from what I hear on the news, it seem like it also goes against their own messages with their actors by overly sexualizing them. It makes it seem like the directors are stuck with showing the "horrors of drugs, sex and trauma" while forgetting the actors are human. Anyway, I'll never watch Euphoria cause I can't stand overly done nudity.
@@mammonsimp6973 I understand your point. However, Jennie likely put her focus into his artistry and work itself, not the allegations or controversies associated with him, since she is herself an artist and in the industry. Ultimately, it was her desire and her choice to be part of the project regardless. So, what she saw is what she got. As far as I’m aware (please tell me if I’m wrong) Jennie was casted before Levinson had even entered the picture, so can we really blame her for making the best of the situation she and her fellow cast were put in?
Her (and others) experience on set was probably fantastic, considering her commentary. In the end, she got to make friends and be part of something as much as anyone else. There is so much we pick up from rumours and allegations to use against particular people these days that there is no open discussion or real discourse about the project. Yeah, show sucks either way (like the majority nowadays) but the people involved are at such a centre of focus that the show itself seems like a shadow rather than the entire point lol. It’s all so one-sided and negative. You see what i mean?
Honestly what you say is never wrong. Sam is so red flag and idk why Jennie decided to take the role
I dont know how many times people have to tell you all that Jennie signed up for the series when there was a female director. Sam and his changes came later on when she was already under contract. Not to mention dropping out could have gotten her blacklisted from Hollywood. Or she just doesn't care either way.
@@somelikeitposh no stop lying...she wasn't part of the original cast she begged sam Levinson to be a part of it. And she can read the script beforehand
@@yasminflower5140 define "begged" because it was abel who asked her if she wanted to be part of the project
Jennie have no problem with acting in this show. She herself said she love his works lol
@@jiminchu5455 btshit stan as usual
jennie even went to cannes to promote this film, praised sam lots of time and even stated that " this experience helps her to be herself" 😂😂😂 girl just wants to debut as an hollywood actress even it absolutely damages her own image and lowers her value.
Sad actually
Yeah ikr.
I don't mind jenni acting in Hollywood but like this being the show as her debut is just questionable...especially since she has alot of young fans..
And hbo is known for its explicit shows so idk why she agreed to this :/
( someone's sure to comment "she's a grown women she can do whatever she wants" ..)
I feel like she wasn't properly advised. And thought this was going to help her enter Hollywood like game of thrones or something, in exchange for providing the shows a bunch of views. But this was a bad fit for her, and it sucks that this might jeopardize her career despite the show only benefiting from her presence and fans.
Because she is without any talent she ne desperate for attention
@@Rita-kx3yrstop acting like she’s a dumbass. She read Sam’s script and literally said in an interview that she thought it was amazing. She saw all the scenes romanticizing mental illness and SA and thought it was great. *She* chose this and if *she* gets screwed over it’s completely *her* fault
I can't believe that Jennie tolerated a script that says " being rape-y is cool" She knows her English well and she is a grown woman, and she knows her audience would be her fans who some are minor. She should hold some accountability for this instead of her fans blaming it all to production.
At the end of the day, she agreed to this slutty, rape-y enthusiast role, for fame or money maybe? still an L choice for sure.
Do you really, like really think she knew what others film? Or that she had more than vague description of the show and 2-3 max pages of what she will film?
Your people are too naive.
No she shouldn't. She's an adult and she's allowed to participate in the media she wants to act in. You people don't know what 'accountability' is because you're like 15 years old at best and shouldn't be watching adult content in the first place.
@@lme918 Don't tell she went into shooting that not knowing that the film is about? Now that is Jennie being naive . Maybe she has few lines, but surely she knew what she agreed to.
@@lme918you are naive. You never watch any filming process? Any actors with dialogues, especially with big name like Jennie get a script. She got invited in the promotion fly to Cannes and all over media promoting it but is not important enough to get a script? 😂
@@TheDhanaMC yeah, she got all script from all series even that was from director head. Bfr
WHY DID JENNIE EVEN AGREE TO BE WITH THAT TRASH DIRECTOR. Some jennie fans are still saying 'omg she is an adult she can do WHATEVER she wants.' Yeah but this is such a vulgar thing. Also why does she like Sam, like from what she said it seems like she and Sam have talked. Like bro what? Sorry but Sam is a bad director. She is a grown woman and im sure she wasn't god dang forced to be in this show. She could have left but i suppose she wants to be in this crap show.
I agree alot with you, same opinion as i do.
Jennie wasnt originally part of the cast she was casted by sam after they had a brief discussion this all was confirmed by jennie herself in that interview .in fact jennie wanted to be on the show bec she did like sam's few works. So no she wasnt forced or anything and she won't leave it either bec oviously it doesnt make sense since she already had talked with sam regarding this project.
Personally i think she probably took the project to build up strong connection in the industry i mean if the story wasnt bad n all she would have blown up even more. Even now she already got tons of attention and as some say there is no such thing as negative publicity. Just think after this exposure if she managed to land a better role fans would most probably forget about this one or something.
@@syminreed3922 that’s the problem, fans don’t take this seriously as they should. jennie should start taking these vulgar roles if she leaves the group AKA removing her from her cute bubbly idol image completely. she cant have her cake and eat it too. korea being a conservative country means she either stays in blackpink and stays bubbly and cute, or leaves and does whatever the hell she wants. back in korea, this show is affecting her group negatively. if she wants to act in a vulgar show she should think of her members who are also getting negative attention from her actions and make the right decision.
Jennie is trash herself how long is it going to take for you to understand this?!
@@cherinyu_shes bringing the groups image down by taking this vulgar role, she needs to make a decision because at this point blackpink is either disbanding, going inactive, or just descending into fire because... this isnt working. 😭 it feels slightly selfish to me.
Lily rose depp is doing great in the minuscule parts that are not porn. Her acting had huge potential to show and highlight the struggles of a female singer in the music industry. And honestly I don't even know what to say about Jennie. Her acting is decent I guess but this role... I'm not sure about why in this whole wide world she decided to take this role. People are defending her saying she was trapped in a contract and whatever. Bro she has enough money and influence to get out of that contract if she wanted to. I'm not hating on her. I'm just genuinely curious. And that pathetic excuse of a singer (not Jennie but the misogynistic one) should go rot in hell.
Not defending Jennie, because she verbally defended Sam Creepinson, but the contract problem is not between her and the show. It's between her and her company. Korean laws are very lax about contracts, so idol management companies are the opposite. Company want company do.
She is not a bad actress but idk if this role is going to help her career.
I read that the emotional scenes Lily did that people like, are the ones that were filmed by the female director, who was making a thought provoking show and not an incel fantasy.
I disagree. Jennie is a good actress she just got a really bad role in a bad show.
@@cursedcatisgod I never said she's a bad actress. She did decent for whatever minuscule lines she had.
The day people stop glorifying the western culture ( sex, drugs, booze), the beauty of art would emerge. Jennie accomplished everything by herself and she should be proud of them. Rather than pleasing the western world , all artists should focus on promoting their own country and culture.
Even Bollywood people lost their creativity and credibility due to such western fetishes.
Exactly
Western culture and sexualization of female celebrities in particular is disgusting people don’t look at talent they look at how little they are wearing and acts they do 🤦♀️
Sex, drugs, and alcohol isn’t a feature unique to ‘western culture’. It’s no surprise that since Hollywood and other western companies have such influence, of course other countries are going to imitate them.
Exactly
I will never get why people are so obsess with America
@@devraajmoran5969drugs sex and booze is not just American
It’s Korean too lol
Jennie could've been a lead actress in any show or movie in asia with her dignity intact
Yeah I mean lead actress is a bit much. Her acting abilities aren’t very good but I see potential that she can improve. But I agree any other show would’ve been better for her debut
Infact she could have work in a good American show too but they choose this sh*t.
@@itsbierce she doesn't even have to be good, they will give her the part she wants
yes,she couldve. but here it doesnt give the noramal jennie vibe.
Well i guess not anymore ... Her Reputation is baaad now
the most respectful review tbh
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Nowadays role's like Jennie's are considered cool and the actors get a lot of attention (she did get it but in a negative way) cuz of such roles maybe that could be a reason she didnt back off from this show or maybe cuz she is entering Hollywood or maybe its western validation. Personally I didnt like Jennie's acting, I didnt get any villain vibes from her while delivered that line(I know its her first time in acting she will definitely improve if she takes more acting projects). On a positive side her expressions while dancing were really good. I dont have any problem with that sexual step she did but yeah a lot of blinks are minor.
she literally did nothing and her role was a joke that anyone could fill. I blame that more on the director and producers (not Jennie before yall come for me) because they wanted Jennie from blackpink to advertise not an actress.
@@arex9000eah I think she is just used for clout in the show. I mean her screen time is just 1-2 minutes till now in an 1 hour long episode.
@@Iamserene77 sorry, that was pretty much my point.
@@arex9000 while that is true.... actors do get the scripts beforehand...and its just a bad show. I dont get why you d your first big project be in a show that normalizes r*pe, mainl when most of your audience are minors. Not ot mention.... If you are doing sth that is on the moral line today, you can bet you will be cancelled for it in a few years. I still like Jennie and BP, I just think it was a horrible business move.
Fame, you don't need to be Korean to find Jennie's acting vulgar.
I actually read somewhere that Jennie got casted AFTER the female writer and director got fired.. So she probably knew the script that got rewritten by Sam Levinson and TheWeeknd
Yes n everyone out here is like she couldn't back out it would look bad
No she came in when everything was already on fire
@@tatherlit People are forgetting how well connect Sam Levinston is in Hollywood. Had she backed out it would have been a breach of contract plus her getting blacklisted in Hollywood. People also love to discredit how she is only a "side character" yet it is all they are talking about!
@@somelikeitposh she is one of biggest artist in the entirety of the show course she is more criticized .
And she joined with Sam after the story changed she had no intentions of backing out
@@somelikeitposh Sam Levinson isnt bigger than Jennie,what are you talking abt? Every actor /actress who dropped out of Euphoria season 2 found new jobs and they arent nowhere near as famous as Jennie and even if that was true do you know how big of a company YG is? YG put T.o.p(bigbang) in Squid Game 2 despite him being convicted of drug charges
"She's just acting"
"She's an adult, she could do whatever she wants"
These arguments sound irresponsible to me
Right. This is the portrayal of a character from a show that is quite dangerous amongst young audiences like Jennie and blackpink's vast fanbase. R and S/A isn't cool its traumatising.
@@StellaKouevi-uu3seit was even said "mental illness is sexy" like who you playing at? Any mental problem isn't cool or sexy, it's a hard thing to deal with in life
"She can do whatever she wants"
Yeah, if an adult robs a bank or murder someone, I guess the excuse as a defense is "she's an adult, she can do whatever she wants" 💀
@StellaKouevi-uu3se I think that's the point , dyanna or jennie is meant to be a snobby selfish person , what she said isn't meant to be right , she's messed up like Jocelyn , maybe tamer than Jocelyn tho , and they do say as a warning that the show contains abuse , she's at the end of the day playing a character, if someone plays a role of killing people brutally, it' traumatizing event but it's just acting , someone playing a child predator , that's messed up but that's the point, it's acting
Not denying sam isn't a creep tho
@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100 I think if this show was written by a Korean writer. It could've been different. They have made tons of show with such sensitive topics but it's stil great.
Maybe the way they built the characters in this show didn't make the audiences feel sympathy.
Petion to release the directors cut version of the female director ✊🏾
Respect is something that once gone can't be regained
Truly and i have no respect left for jennie
That's not true
true
@@thecensoredmuscle563 it is and its a fact
I never had any respect for her, but after this, I do she showing her true colors she wants the Western validation good for her
4:47 I do not think it’s unfair because of the fact that she willingly acted in a tv show that praises and idolizes rape, misogyny, S/A, and the list goes on. also, she literally said that she’s a fan of Sam’s work, and that even when she knew that the show was going to be like this she decided to play part of it and insisted Levin-whatever his name is to add her.
I wouldn’t make a big deal about praising a director or producer’s work. What else is she going to say? She can’t criticize because she runs the risk of being blackballed or coming off as having a big ego. Her role on the show is so minor that people will forget about this in a few months.
Ikr I was shocked she disgust me now
Do you expect her to talk badly about him in a interview? When victorious was airing all the actors said positive things about the director, when the show ended the actors spoke about how shitty the director was. Another huge example is dove cameron, she used to talk positively about disney when she worked with them and when she left she also spoke negative about disney. It's not something difficult to grasp
@@AB-nk5wvit’s not the fact that she praised him. It’s the fact that she reached out to him, got him to put her on the show, to which she described as “it worked out miraculously”. To which she justified with her being a fan of aaaalll his work. You’re ignoring the key point. She did not praise him just to praise him, she praised him as a reason for her approaching him.
@@AB-nk5wv
“I’ve always been a fan of all his work.”
“I’ve always been a fan of all his work, so I contacted him like “hey can I be on the show” and it worked out miraculously.”
It’s different.
The show was originally meant to show the exploitation of women in the music industry, but it turned into exactly what it was trying to demonise. The original director was fired when 80 percent of the film had been completed, so they had to completely start from the beginning with a new head director. The OG director was fired because she was making the perspectives too ‘womanly’. Under her control, the script went into detail about the cult and less significant characters, which added depth to the storyline. It also apparently showed Jocelyn to be more of a victim of exploitation (rather than the official version, where she literally was very open to the idea of being used).
I'm pretty sure the show was trash with the original director. There were many things wrong with it besides direction.
@@thecensoredmuscle563nah the show became trash after the original director left.
Preach. I still can't understand why Jennie took this acting role, but my best take is that she was fed up with korean standards, the hate comments and the constant scrutiny and tried to pull a Miley Cyrus, but massively backfired. The show is not good, the pacing is atrocious and idk how people can support the weeknd after this. I'm so sad about everything overall, I love Jennie and we all make mistakes, I see this as a wrong career move but hey, I'm just some rando on the internet.
I mean she has been networking when she goes to LA with some stars. I think it was a chance for her to get her hollywood break and showing people she can be more than just BP. I also heard they cut alot of her scenes in the final script versus a cameo. It pretty much a cameo with her little screen time.
Yeah but jennie has been doing this for so long in concert she dress to revealing and at parties she act like a hoe but the tjing that concern me last the minors who go there with the intention to see there idol
i don't tjink it was a mistake since you said yourself she was fed up with korean standards. let's think about it logically please
@@catsolw I meant that it wasn't as successful as she thought it would be.
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Jennie can do anything and blinks will defend her. She wore cornrows in the idol blinks are trying their hardest to remove all the videos, jennie left the concert and two days later she went hiking. She maintains her "I'm an innocent person" image and then goes out personally to work in such a show.
Edit: and yes I was correct blinks are here defending her
Exactly. Some fans will defend her no matter what she does and slap on the same excuse that “she’s an adult, she can do whatever the hell she wants” which is yes, she can do whatever she wants but that doesn’t mean every wrong thing she does will be right, wrong is still wrong. I think those fans just can’t accept the fact that Jennie isn’t perfect, no hate on her but she’s also a human and she’s not perfect, she makes mistakes, other times she makes bad decisions and as they already says, she is an adult, she’s not a naive kid, she’s mature enough to think twice before she makes a decision
Well, it's blinks what did u expect... I'm not even surprised anymore
how does she maintain her innocent image? If anything since the past year shes been acting like what an almost 30 year old woman should act! For the cornrows one, its pr9ven that the weeknd put her in it and if he as a black man has no problem why do non blacks do
i'm a blink but i don't defend toxic people like jennie. Ik most blinks are just as toxic as jennie but pls don't assume that all blinks are like that
@@_itzmidzy_ yes, it's true.
I dont understand why jennie would agree to do such a garbage show when she is already UP there.
want to be a hollywood actress 😂😂😂 maybe she thinks that kdramas dont deserve super star like her =))))))))
bcz maybe she relates to it, this show is abt an idol mentally disturbed and you know how idols are treated in reality, this show is not some fairytale but a disgusting and harsh reality that happen in world.
It's not known if she agreed or not, there is a possibility that she didn't because of kpop contracts (very exploitative industry) but at the end of the day, she did defend Sam Levinson after the controversy. I guess she would get flack from her company if she didn't, but I doubt that they would kick a member of the group that keeps the lights on.
Only her fans believe she is up there
@@backpunk8439relates to it??? she, as a grown woman, should know well that the script is obviously a trash fantasy written by a nasty, horny, guy.
Jenny didn't change, she just showed her true self
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Lol exactly, idk why people think kpop idols are angels they will never have prevented side, surely HBO used her to make kpop fans worse like her. No offense
Exactly
It’s called acting. What are y’all on ??😭😭 all the poor girl did was dance
@@goingyellow-dy9uf yes queen of "acting"
My friend was so excited to watch this as she loves Blackpink and Jennie 20 mins into 1st episode she furiously shut the laptop I was LMAO every 2 minutes. The dialogs are so off and to be fair the show is just all over the place
Jennie is only in there to make Blackpink trend again for a bit (their company is doing anything but giving them actual kpop related activities)
You have a friend who like BP??? You could change friend then, only people who like BP are evil and mean girls, that’s a good sign that you should run away from her.
@@noonchucksagreed. This isn’t rlly her “Hollywood debut” or “ acting debut” bc this is clearly a clout grab, no slander to Jennie personally bc she’s js doing what she’s gatta do to branch out or gain clout but this wasn’t rlly a showcase of any skills she has (if she has any bc idt she’s had acting experience before thisj
@@noonchucksit wasn’t YG who made her go on the show. She personally contacted Sam to ask for a place in the show. YG is the least controlling when it comes to Jennie.
@@noonchucksdon’t you dare blame this on yg because yg announced they had nothing to do with this show or Jennie acting in it.
Kpop and it's fandom never ceases to amaze me.
saw people saying ‘Jennie’s dehumanizing women’ and slutshame her in the next tweet😭😭😭
@@abcd3577no such thing as slutshaming. Being a slut itself is shameful and the word implies shame.
Sorry, not sorry..Jennie is not actress material. Honestly, if she wasn’t an idol, she would not even be noticeable. She can’t act. Neither can the rest of the cast except maybe Lily Rose (but she also should not have taken this role). Also, the plot of this series, if beyond disgusting and traumatizing for so many people. The fact that the cast signed up for this KNOWING the disgusting premise, shows their mentality is just super messed up. It’s gross.
I think most of the supporting cast didn't know the full story as a lot of them are now refusing to participating in the promotions
Apparently their scenes that they shot with the former director are being used and they didn't know the full story
The weekend can't act to save his life😂😂😂😂😂
People are surprised Jennie's company didn't pull her from the project entirely, since kpop idols have such strict rules with what they can say/be involved in, etc. And I feel like that's even more telling of her as a person & and how much she's gotten caught up with the seemingly glamorous but actually disturbing nature of this industry the moment BP gained fame in the west.
But it's literally not just her - it's a problem with all of the actors, and they should be held accountable for partaking in this shit.
Yg actually came out to publicly announce that Jennie accepted the role on her own and they have nothing to do with it
I mean how do Blackpink's current or new contract look like? They could all leave YG and have successful solo careers based on their insta following (70mil+) alone. So I think they must have more freedoms than they used to have.
jennie got signed by sam levinson by her own request and she said she even reccomended some directions he can go w her character, I think she just wanted to break into Hollywood as well and being best friends w the weeknds gf it was the perfect opportunity. I don't understand how anyone in the cast didn't see the problem w the script
THANK YOUUU. Alot of blinks keep saying "she was in the original script"....saying "she was used". She knew what she was getting into. Imagine getting a role you know nothing about. Don't know what the shows about. Like bfr she knew what she was getting into.
@@mingispinkyits clearly stated in the rolling stone article that sam levinson casted her and troye sivan to up the star quality of the show.
i think that cz euphoria got rly big, thy were hoping to make this an euphoria 2.0 and there's some similarities in the tropes asw but it ws jst a big wtf moment instead of breaking out like euphoria did 🤷♀🤷♀
Only two episodes have been released and right from the get-go, thing aren’t looking too good for the actresses that are apart of this show. People love to speak on Jennie’s regards and how this show is doing nothing to give her a morale boost, instead it’s tarnishing the idol persona that she’s always been known for since the start of her career. However, I’d like to speak more about Lily. Her dad is arguably one of, if not the most renowned actor, and yet all she gets to do is to play some exploited bimbo in a soft-corn show? As if this isn’t the worst female lead script that she could’ve received, but she had to act along side someone like The Weeknd as well? This show isn’t just portraying women being exploited in the industry, it’s really happening before our eyes. This is just flat out horrific.
hope your comment gets more likes. it is quite literally horrifying and sickening to see this level of exploitation of women. it’s crazy how it’s 2023 and this is still a huge, ongoing issue. haven’t women been hyper-sexualized, objectified, and taken advantage of enough already? i genuinely wonder when this shit treatment will come to an end entirely :/
i think maybe lily took on a role like this to separate herself from “johnny depps daughter” and establish herself tho it’s such a heinous role and i’m sure she will regret it in a few years but her acting is really very good,,, makes me sad the original concept was scrapped
@@hieevee2547 I totally agree, Jocelyn isn’t a good look for her. I’m sure there are better female lead rolls out there similar to Jocelyn but without all the crappy dynamic you know
It's so dystopian and unfair to Lily all the women that worked on the original project
@@StellaKouevi-uu3seit's not unfair to any of the women on the show. They took the role.
This is hands down one of the best reviews I’ve ever seen. Clear, gets straight to the point and most importantly, you see things from different sides when it comes to Jennie in particular and you don’t take a one sided argument, allowing for everyone to understand the context properly. Hat’s off to you.
Jennie is ruining her career by herself... This sudden acting career was unnecessary 💀 I mean she could've at least acted in a good series, not po/rn 🤷 she obvi knows that she has a whole kid's Fandom watching her why did she do this? I really love her. I do. I was a fan of hers since 2017-2018, but now she wants to enter the world of Hollywood so badly, and this is strange. I hope this does not affect Blackpink, especially in South Korea (no hate tho Jennie fans don't come at me 🫂) - update | she absolutely doesn't deserve the hate she's getting 💀 its too much
Exactly,,i agree...
she wants to be a western star so bad, its weird to me.
@@haelevator127F ikr
yeah she is like westernizing herself day by day
And she dance lazily on asian country concerts and give invalid reason like " she is tired " " she is sick " she is always sick tired over worked when it's comes to performance and this sh** going on over years and still some people defending her without knowing what they're doing.
i absolutely agree with what you said, and to younger sisters and brothers, please do not watch the idol, it might leave an impact on your young minds
i also doubt that jennie ruining the group’s image, they have enough fans and the media will forget about this soon enough whatsoever she definitely didn’t do herself a favor with that "acting" debut
Nah they are too popular right now to fall from grace just bec of this one show beside am also sure as soon as she takes up another better role people would forget about it (me included lol) .
You didn't do yourself a favour writing this comment
@@Imsochloe you’re just bitter and support misogyny
@@syminreed3922 i agree tho i personally don’t see potential in her becoming a good actress but she is privileged enough to get another role in the hollywood industry
@@eun1806 exactly my point its not about just potential in film and music industry right connection and money is what is needed to get opportunity to blow beside we gotta cut her some slack i mean this is literally her first acting gig so am sure this is room for improvement anyway i dont really watch this kind of shows or movies or anyway so dont really care i just hope she so continue in her rap career tho since debut this is something i have really looked forward to for jennie the most.
Its Overly Sexual And The Weeknd Its Creepy 😅
It’s gross 🤢
I just think that Jennie is ready to break out of the kpop idol image, just like Zendaya did with her Disney Channel good girl image by participating in Euphoria, which is no different from the idol. I do agree that she could've find better role. I think the whole K-pop image is stupid, because imagine pushing 30 and not being able to even publicly date without fans being upset or getting bash. I honestly don't blame her.
the kpop image is so stupid and full of delulu children , but the way of getting out of it isnt by following whatever the west is selling nah
Thisssss! I dont see anyone talk about this!
Exactly. Kpop is just... So toxic.
Its good to break the kpop idol image but a celebrity with influence as big as jennie is expected to do so in a rather positive way, probably where theme is to impart some positivity in terms of mental health and eliminating misogyny which are literally problems in kpop, this show does the exact opposite
Thank you!!! Honestly I get the same vibes as when Sulli was slutshamed and look what happened to her. Artists are allowed to take risks and change their image without being scrutinised like they killed a puppy
I see they were tryna go for Jennie being the villain and whatever, and as a fan of villains and antagonists myself, I believe Jennie definitely has the charisma for it, especially in the right light. Or like the super likeable anti-hero that people love more than the MC because their character is much more interesting. But this show painted her out to be some oversexualized, jealous fake friend?? Or snitch??? instead of her own individual character which really fucking sucks 😭 I personally believe she deserved much better but yk she is a grown ass woman who can do whatever she wants, so to each it’s own I guess.
Also this show having a lower rating than Velma is _crazy_ LMAO. But I also get it because aside from the oversexualized dialogue and mannerisms, it doesn’t really seem all that interesting like it did in the teasers and I’m kinda upset. Ah well
I can imagine her character was written to be much more than what we got. But who will ever know🤷🏻♀️ half of her scenes were cut any way lol.
@@Evute02 Man the wasted potential is fucking crazy lmao, but oh well 🤷🏽♂️.
@@lattaearchives Right? She could’ve been the baaddest villain. 🙄
honestly i wish they kept the og person who wrote it. like i have no plans on watching this show but from what i’ve heard she wanted this to be more of a commentary about the entertainment industry then what we got
the idol has a higher rating than velma (4.9 for the idol and 1.6 for velma)
This show was so triggering for me, as someone who broke free of an abusive relationship, so much of the dialogue spirals me back into that awful world again and it makes me want to punch that creepy jerk every time he talks. The yelling, the possessiveness, and especially forcing someone out of their comfort zone are all signs of abuse and it’s horrible that the show tries to put a positive spin on it like “trauma unlocks your true potential and helps you find yourself”
for people saying "its not idol's prblm kids are watching the show", main thing is we see kpop agencies debuting even 13-14 year olds as idols, and for that they need to be trainee even before that age, so ofc younger kids are gonna be part of their target audience even if in small %age and when idols take part in individual projects those kids will automatically watch that. So it should be the responsibility of agencies to decide the target audience for their kpop grps not like at times they are doing kids stuff and then completely straight up adult shit and parents should be equally responsible for what their kids are watching.
U got a point
i agree. its not just jennie, its every celebrity who should be held responsible for what they decide to participate in, especially if they have younger fans. "they do whatever they want" shouldn't be an arguement here, since kpop fandoms usually consist of underage people, who can easily be influenced. i also agree with your point, that if they were aiming for a younger audience originally, they shouldn't be surprised that people are shocked and disappointed over a role like this.
@@pinkpeonies__ Exactly!!
you're wrong, it should be the responsibilities of the parents, besides the show is r rated, the parents should teach the kids that r rated shows is not for kids
We will always support you. You're the master of everything you put your heart, mind, and soul into.
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@@_StrayKidsForever_U don't have a brain right?
Her praising Sam Levinson bothers me alot more than her performance in the show
she just said that she’s a huge fan of his works and that he helped her during the film while shooting her scenes…
@@abcd3577yes exactly, that's the problem, glad you understand. She said she's a fan of sam and his works, do you even know what kind of things sam had worked on?
@@potatoezim yes! He has worked on one of biggest and critically acclaimed show ever made (euphoria), Assassination Nation, deep waters, bandits (literally all huge hits)
Spoken as a non-blackpink stan: I think people are overreacting with their "she destroyed everything bp has built up" or "i don't like her anymore after this". I think this show had potential when it was still about the female point of view, but we all know that's history now. I personally highly dislike the show, but that doesn't make me hate jennie or troye or whoever else. Like please ... some people really should act like adults or touch some grass.
First part I agree. She hasn't destroyed BP's rep. People forget that Jennie is not the most famous member everywhere the way she is in Korea. Yes she's big but the other BP members are also big. They'll be fine.
I do disagree with your second point though. If people don't like Jennie anymore after this, that's their right. I personally find her less appealing as a celeb to follow now too. Not because of her doing some adult role but because she knew the type of show she was getting into and this show is extremely problematic. It's also why Abel has also fallen from my graces (more so than Jennie, he's actually vile for this).
So you like Hollyweird ?
Nah girl i think that since bp have ALOT more younger fans and minors,,…… this can actually influence them. Since shes one of the it girls there. But anyways yeah wtv
@@pinkxcute Hey! Maybe I came across wrong. Everyone's feeling about this situation is valid, so I don't want to invalidate your or someone else's opinion. I just wanted to make clear that malicious hate towards her and other actors involved are unfair.
👏👏- finally a rational comment below here!
Great review! the hate jennie is receiving is so unnecessary BUT as much as I love her, I think people are allowed to be disappointed. just not put it out publicly in a hateful and revolting manner. disappointment can be portrayed online via constructive and polite criticism. now you might say "oh jennie doesn't give af about YOUR disappointment" which is true. but still, as a free human being, we are allowed to be, provided that our public display of it doesn't cross certain lines. moving on, the reason I'm disappointed is that, no matter what blinks tell us, no jennie did not read the original script. she wasn't even IN the original cast when there was a female director. she was casted in AFTER Sam was made director and produced a new script. it was SAMS decision to cast pop stars and influencers (jenie, troye sivan). so yes, jennie read a script about an oversexualised, misogynistic, creepy, problematic, gross show, in which she has little to no importance (other than being someone jocelyn sees as a competition) and agreed to be in it. there is no message or symbolism or metaphor her character portrays other than "pretty asian girl who's good at everything the mc isn't". maybe as the show progresses we'll see more depth to her character? but as for now, there is absolutely NO reason for jennie to have agreed to be on this show. especially since her character gets no more than 5 minutes of screentime (the third episode is out as of my writing this, and she gets 10 seconds of screentime 😐). jennie, as an actress and as a human being, has so much more to give and portray and the idol is ruining it for her, and the fact that SHE chose it, just makes matters worse..
this comment should be pinned
I see your point but reason why some people hate her is cause of Jennie has a lot of minor fans who might watch the show and it too sexual she said some thing she shouldn’t have said but blinks ignore it and praise her for her facial expressions and moaning sounds it messed up an disturbing I expected more from Jennie she supposed to be a role model all idols are to fans but now I see why she the most hated K-pop idol
@@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe I don’t even like black pink, but she literally owes nobody an explanation she’s a grown woman. If she wants that western validation, let her try to get it.
@@Steph489 if she grown leave her to solve her issues don’t be the one to make excuses for her she imature and reckless jisoo is and adult and behaves like one why can’t jennie
@@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe calling her an adult is not excusing her. It’s a literal fact the bitch is grown. If young kids watch it, it’s on their parents. She wants to promote herself as a sex object to fit into the Hollywood crowd. That’s on her. I truly am understanding why they call K-pop Stans crazy. She’s not the only person in the show, saying, and doing sexual things. But it’s wrong because she’s a K-pop idol and she has an image to maintain y’all are crazy 😂😂
I watched only the first epi and every lead actor acted awfully apart from LRD. Like I had the least acceptation from her but that she acted decently. That was my last epi from this series. And I think jeenie choose to be on the show because she thought it would be something like euphoria where every character became so popular that they all went to the top and she needed west validation and didn't care about the msg it's carrying. Very few actor think about the script msg and feel responsible for possible impact on their followers. And jeenie isn't one of them.
Well said. She really thought.
If you would have said this this a month ago I would have fight with you with my whole soul. Now when I heard she decided to be on the show in a dinner with weekend I realize everything she dose isn't controlled by yg. She choose everything and yg don't control her. So there's no way I can defend her. She's facing consequences for her bad choices just like she get praised for her gd choices.
Euphoria is a trash nasty show also, not sure why anyone would want to be apart of something similar.
She wanted what euphoria did for zendaya
A person who trades honor for prestige deserves neither.
I haven’t even heard about this series even lmao 😂
Jokes aside, is this your hobby to do these commentaries? Because you’re really good at these!
i love his soothing voice and clearness
I like the switch to "reviews", very versatile you are. Never have I heard of this series, but I think I wanna watch it even after your review 👍🏽.
I can't believe 12-14 year old kids watching this show. It will traumatise them.
It will traumatise even grown ups too!
@@A25665 true
this is the first time i agreed with everything in a review video
Very good review! You took the words right out of my mouth also a side note: I really love the direction your channel is taking ^-^ keep up the good work!
I just love it when Blinks create a narrative that completely clears Jennie of any and all responsibility..Even if I accept the claim that the director was changed and the original story was scrapped in favor of this much sluttier version, I think Jennie should not be completely exonerated..She is afterall an adult with not only a massive following but also a major company behind her, and so when she saw that the show was turning out different from what she originally signed up for, she should have taken measures to not only release herself from further involvement in the show, but also have the scenes she has already filmed scrapped from the show that will be aired..I understand that she has very little say in the production of the show, that the choreography (which tbh was downright p*rn) and script (which also sounds like something out of p*rn) was outside of her jurisdiction, but she did not have to participate in either if she did not want to..This show is vulgar and trashy and I really do not understand why she associated herself with it in the first place..She clearly could have done so much better..I know that getting out of contract can be difficult, esp one in which I assume a huge amount of money was involved, but it should not be impossible, esp if some misinformation or deception was involved..I think her decision to be in the show is stupid at the very least and possibly downright irresponsible and selfish..I know she is a grown woman and should be able to make decisions for herself, but she should have also taken into account how this show will affect not only her band’s image and its members but also her fans, many of whom are actually minors..I know many would claim that the fans voicing their objection to this just want to control her so that she can remain the sweet innocent girl in their perverse fantasy, but I assure you, those fans are few and far between..BP’s concept is girl crush and their group targets to appeal to young girls and women who wish to identify with strong female role models, which is why this move by Jennie is really disappointing..Blinks who think she would be losing out if she steps down from the show are belittling her and overrating the show..The show is trash and she won’t be getting a lot from trash unless they recycle it into compost..The show just used her for clout..Tbh, I don’t think whatever she is getting out of it (be it attention or money or a foot into Hollywood) is worth what she possibly gambling away (right now she is already receiving a lot of backlash particularly in Asia which tbh makes up the majority of Kpop fandoms)..Blinks should stop coddling her and call it what it is..She should admit she made a wrong turn and course correct before she completely derails..
This is a great take, I completely agree with you, especially about Jennie's fans being mostly CHILDREN.
Could not agree more with every word .
After the lady left....She wasn't part of the original script.
Jennie was never part of the original script she was casted by sam levinson and she accepted it. Blinks are trying to paint her a victim.
i was gonna watch it bc of jennie and then i was scrolling down on yt shorts for fun then i saw a clip of this 6:47 dance and i really felt super disgusted and decided not to watch it now ill watch it later THEN I SAW THIS VIDEO AND I REALLY NEVER WANT TO EVEN THINK TO WATCH IT, BRO YOU SAVED MY LIFE THANK YOU
it's true she could've left and if not yg could've helped her it's most likely she chose to stay
Even if she willingly act in corn people will be “corn script is bad but Jennie slayyed😍😍” “she was forced to do it” “YG didn’t protect our baby🥺🥺” “she doesn’t have the choice, she had to do it😭”
She chose it, she’s allowed to do this stuff, some blinks are stupid
It’s not something new , shows are just becoming worse and worse everyday and they’re losing it’s actual meaning of art and tragedy .. even for an adult it’s uncomfortable to watch too much sexual behavior .. it’s always 50% sexual scenes 20% romanticizing drugs and alcohol addiction ( even for f*ing minors) 20% overly repetitive propaganda things 10% of the actual story
while i agree that jennie taking part in this raised my eyebrow, people saying she dragged blackpink’s name into dirt are overreacting. she still brings a lot of attention to her group, this is a mere minor role and she’s doing pretty well for a first time actor. i just hate the whole premise and the change of plot, sam and the daysoftheweek who can’t act to save his life.
If this was the attention then I don’t think she should’ve bothered because this attention is ugly and disgusting! I just pray Lisa leaves that group as fast as possible, you have no idea how this will hurt blackpink as a group
Brings a lot of attention to the group with her lazy dancing you mean 😂😂
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Damn good review and you mentioned all the points which i was thinking about and seen in the social media. Good job
i love how you pointed out every point that needed to be pointed out
Thank you for this. We need more men voicing the wrongs in the media industry
After your xo kitty review I waited for this one, thanks!
Also the super Mario Bros review
Waited*
Great review with balanced points of view. Please keep going! (Because honestly, I don't want to watch shows like this. But I want to hear objective opinions.)
I'm glad you lowered the camera a bit haha 😅 You looked so smol in the XO Kitty video lol. I loved your skits and was surprised to see you doing review/commentary videos, but you're doing a great job! Keep it up!
Jennie smoked some weed to accept to this role, or she is a fan of Euphoria and she thought that this show would be good as well. But she probably doens't know that Euphoria season 1 is a remake, so Sam don't deserve be praise by anything in terms of writting (season 2 is the prove, garbage), only the cinematography is something that he do well.
WAIT WTF EUPHORIA IS A REMAKE???!!!! geez am getting to know about this now 😂😂😂 anyway coming to your statement jennie did mention in an interview that she actually is a fan of some levinson's work so maybe thats why beside am pretty sure she knew this would give a huge exposure and connection to the industry which would be useful for future work in Hollywood.
You should continue to review more shows. Love these vids
Not gonna lie, if the original director wasn't replaced I think the series could've make a way better impact on Jennie's career.
Edit: so it turns out that the og ensemble didn't include jennie at all
Your analysis is spot on. Great video
Huh, Korean Comic is doing reviews now? Coolio!
he's done it before too
Yesss he's doing more of reviews
good review, thank you KC.
jennie second handedly promoting rap* is fvcked up.
i was in the entertainment industry in my teens and did receive severe sexual harassment, i still struggle ptsd in my adulthood. at the time, i thought it was something i had to tolerate. it's sad that this kind of show will make young girls/boys to think that tolerating rap* and sexual harassment is a good/cool thing + way to become a star.
i think jennie hasn't experience rap* or sexual harassment in her career since she is well protected in this privileged huge company YG. i mean, good for her, i'm glad she didn't experience it, but it's a shame that it made her incompassionate towards millions of girls who actually get traumatized in the misogynistic r*pist friendly industry.
billions of young girls/boys look up to her, and YES it's just a show and not a documentary, but shows do shape people's perception of the world, especially young people.
i hope other super famous idols with massive influence will have morals + consider the consequences of what they promote.
really enjoy your tv show reviews!!
Hate the show but I don't blame Jennie maybe not wanting to act like a little kid for the rest of her life, while still being dressed in a sexy way anyways which personally I find just as weird to expect of someone.
I think you guys are forgettting something. Jennie has always been potrayed as the baddie. She's always been the villain, the femme fattale, she was never seen as the cute girl, she has always been seen as the sexy diva and people have continously treated her as a maddona archetype who is two faced, untrustworthy. Therefore, From the outside looking in, i don't understand why everyone is suprised jennie chose to play the exact CHARACTER SHE'S BEEN MADE TO LOOK HER ENTIRE LIFE.
She is a k-pop idol not a western Idol...but Jennie want's Hollywood validation through this. Lol.....
She better be in western things ....Her sexy in picture didn't clearly mean letting women in particular down....but this is a series and many are watching which is too much for even an adult..... Koreans are not very touchy physically like this , they don't fuck anyone on their first date or meeting bruh......and Jennie as a character did all 😂😂😂...lamao the hate was evident and couldn't believe she really praised the director 😂
That's honestly what I was thinking too! I thought it's Lisa who has that cute aegyo bubbly girl image and so it really didn't surprise me that Jennie took this role.
I personally don't see the problem with her acting sexy. What i find problematic is agreeing to work on a show that glorifies r*pe and does downright torture p*rn and just degrading towards women. And especially with how she joined the show after Levinson🤮 took over and agreed to work with him because she's a fan of his work. Dude is a serios creep who likes to humiliate women in his movies that look like his mom. Maybe she thought it would be a good idea because it would get her name out there in hollywood but it's just an icky and questionable debut choice
no gives a damn about the character she playing in the grand scheme of things, they care about the fact she not only is a fan of sam levinson’s work but she also chose to be in a show like this knowing what it’s about
the character isnt the problem, its the fact that she agreed to work on a show like this
To summarize, this series is 5% about the reality of the entertainment industry and 95% sexual lines,acts, scenes, etc..
i love this so much. please create more content like this!
This video was very thought out and informative! I can't wait for more. 😎👍
Everything you said was so true. I myself am I minor. I just saw Jennie was having a show coming out called idol. I thought it would be about the life journey of an idol and how they got their through hard work. I wasnt expecting that tho. Also im always used to seeing the funny goofy side of you so when you got serious right here it shocked me.
i have no problems with the nudity, vulgarity, problematic lines and explicit content. i think it's absolutely fine for shows to have all those things. i think the idol made it extremely clear that it was going to be about that and that the show really isn't for children. i don't think they did anything wrong here by deciding to include those problematic lines or the sexually explicit content.
my issue is that's it all done extremely poorly. it's unwatchable. those shocking lines, explicit scenes and their shock value are literally the only memorable thing about the show apart from the weeknd's strange acting performance :( i 100% agree that firing the previous director was the biggest mistake. turning it into a male gaze fantasy ruined all the potential it had and absolutely "single-handedly destroyed the show". you can see the potential and it's just infuriating when you see what became of it.
i genuinly don't understand why lily-rose depp and jennie decided to stick around.
there is a line for everything , the script is so bad , the show at times too cringy to watch plus too much non necessary nudity and porn is still bad even for an adult
@@aminthemistbut then 365days with cringe Lines and Nudity toxic but Gets top 1 trending in Netflix.
@@hmmmk7630that doesnt mean its good, does it?
@@pinkpeonies__ I think y'all just choose Whom You should hate.
Jennie is not got 1minute Screentime in 3 episodes combine.
She's literally carrying that Show despite having No lines
Best video on The Idol Ive seen so far!!
These videos are so good wow keep it up!!
4:57 the last sencence in this comment actually hits hard. Jennie can do what she wants but begin part of a girl group that main audience is young girls and playing such an objectifying role is really irresponsible.
This was not something a kpop girl should be associated with
I remember what happened to Sulli when she acted in the movie “Real”.
Yeah me too
What happened?
@@havensohn3821 She was criticised harshly. I think that decision begun the never ending hate she received until she…. You know
@@Dodohulahoop757oh plz that was not reson .and don't try to defend Jennie bcz she is being criticised .her acting is sucks and script 🤢
Same
First Jisoo's lead role debut, now Jennie's acting debut - both shows caused controversies. I don't understand why they're not being cautious while shifting from their kpop idol life to a career like acting which is more open to public scrutiny. And to know that it’s their own personal choices & not the company's to choose these projects just makes it messier.
Like you're still only in your 20s when you're entering into acting. You basically have your whole life ahead to take up challenges to act in 'controversial' projects. So in your early stages of acting career, your goal should be to establish the fact that you can actually act. Your focus should not be to show everyone how 'different/versatile' you are from the cute idol image being set up by your company. It also should not be wise to stir up uproars among general public/viewers/own countrymen so early on.
They're only thinking about the clout that comes with it.
Wait what controversy was around jisoo's drama ? I'm a bit behind
@lluvs4noo I am not familiar with Korean politics or history but apparently Snowdrop portrayed misinformation regarding history of North & South Korea, therefore many South Korean tv outlets banned it from airing on their channels, netizens were angry about it etc...
@@todays_junseo3557 oooh ooh I see now thank you I only just saw Ur reply 😭
Jisoo was good, jennie...idk
Jennie has been exploited most of her life, I doubt she realizes how much she’s been exploited for this show.
No i don't think she is a victim in this situation, she know what she is getting into but i think she thought this would be hit because of the similar aspects of euphoria. Please stop trying portray her as a victim when no one know what goes on behind. And its pathetic you trying to do this only because of the hate if she was praised for the role, you wouldn't throw a pity party
No one forced her
It's obvious Jennie wasn't forced to do this. She obviously also knows the consequences of taking that role. So whatever happening to her, I'm not saying she deserves it, but I'm saying she was asking for it. So I don't get why people would even bother defending her and even victimizing her by saying she was forced to do it.
She's clearly just doing what she wanted, so if you like it then watch it, if don't like it then ignore it.
There's no point hating her.
Didnt know you have these content. I like this video.
Thank you for covering this, I'm really loving the commentary and hot takes lately. I absolutely love your songs and skits, but I enjoy the break down of topics like this. As a western born person, our media is saturated...no, it's drowning in everything being sexualized all the time. From hamburgers to cars, everything here is based on the phrase, "sex sells". So I am confused why she was getting such backlash from a movie roll. I do get it now, but I was a bit like "Who cares? It's a character in a movie....." I hope everything equalizes for the cast and they can move on from this disaster of a show! 😅
I actually hate it when kpop idols act like child, cute and innocent like they don’t understand anything when they are not. Every kpop group do this. I don’t know what's the problem of showing their true personality. Don’t they feel fake? I was into kpop before but not anymore beacause I felt It was destroying my mind. Korean ridiculous beauty standard, visual (they considered it as talent) and many more. If I leave a comment like I don’t like this song I was expected more.. the whole fandom will come to eat me. It's not normal anymore. Glad I got out from this.
HAHA I'M HERE EARLY BUT YEAH ITS CRAZY HOW THAT HAPPENED
These types of videos are amazingg if this was the main centent u make this would be one of the best channels ever
Love ur channel
I know it was Jennies choice but dan YG could protect her and tell her to go for a safer debut role and seires. A kdrama would be lit Jisoo made it big as an actress already with Snowdrop.
YG has absolutely no power when it comes to decisions like Hollywood. They might have suggested her not to go we don't know but at the end it's Jennie's decision whether to go or not. YG can't hold her back against her for western movies or series. They might have some power when it comes to kdrama but definitely not for anything outside Korea.
@@dishuuu112 That kinda makes sense especially cuz blackpink is signed with us label 5oo, so they could be more controlling with their us projects.
Then yall would've said that yg is restricting bp, not giving them freedom.
As a kpop stan , I agree with u 👍
I would love to see you highlight and shed some light on other corrupt things being leaked on originally happy apps such as twitch, Tik Tok and Instagram
Thank you so much for this great review. I love how you didn't go against anyone or defend anyone and talked about everything from different points of view. I have been a blink for 4 years now and I know how dark the kpop industry can be and idols are forced to do many things. I was looking forward to the series but I am a bit disappointed of how sexual it is and how much nudity there is in it. But by the end of the say we can't force anyone to do anything just because we didn't like something about them. So it's completely up to Jennie and there are still some positive points in the series
Well, apparently Forbes thinks that Jennie should win an Emmy for her role.
You know what they say. Bad publicity is still publicity.
Sad truth
yge with mediaplay as always 🥰
I agree
Jennie is asking for criticism at this point. The show being 21+ isn't the problem, the problem is this show is trashy af. She probably has so many opportunities but chose THIS?!?! yeah she is a grown woman that's why she needs to hold accountable.
Ikr. Like u can’t say “she’s an adult and can do what she wants” and then say “I think it isn’t a bit of her fault bc she wasn’t fully aware” she can’t be a grown woman and a naive kid at the same time. Truth is she is an adult and she should be more aware of the decisions she makes, and be held accountable for the wrongdoings. And I’m not her hater, I’ve been a fan of bp and her since 2017, but some fans needs to stop defending her over everything.
@@Heather-ip8sdu think This will Last ever show to make this kind of shows.plss give this same Energy Wen for next Nude Hollywood series
@@hmmmk7630 it’s not just this series, it’s most of the Hollywood series nowadays, it’s all becoming pretty bad, they’re either about romanticising drugs, s*x, misogyny, mental illnesses, there’s not many good Hollywood shows or movies these days
Thank you for the objective review. ❤
People need to come to grips with the fact that Jennie wanted this
And that regardless of what she did,
People have no idea who these people are and what motivates them
Branding
And plenty of women have broken into Hollywood without associating themselves with people like sam
A role like this is not necessary to get into Hollywood
I just subscribed this is a good Channel