Testing The Badger 105 Patriot Airbrush - Great All Purpose Airbrush
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Here I test a Badger 105 Airbrush. I have a few friends that swear by these and I wanted to try one out for myself and for my viewers. While it appears to be an average quality airbrush it performs great. It's not going to win any detail contest but it does lay down a smooth coat of paint as good as I've seen. Check out my results using different types of paint.
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I have a couple Badgers. I just got quick disconnect fittings (like I use on all my airbrushes) that have the badger thread. Easy fix.
Just to put this out there, Harbor Freight sells an airbrush hose that comes with an adapter that fits Badger airbrushes.
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I use the Badger 105 Extreme. got it about 3/4 years ago and love it
I also have the Extreme, use that for my detail work and also have the 200 NH for general coverage. Badger is solid.
I absolutely love my 105, best brush I’ve had.
Simple solution. Store the brush with the needle pulled back into the brush.
You would like the Badger Krome and Sotar.
The teflon seal you showed is actually between the cup and trigger. The new design allows easier replacement and adjustment if needed.
Thanks for this great review. As a result, I just got the Badger 105 - 155BGF combo set off of Amazon - what a great value. Used and still using their rugged 155 Anthem for over 20 plus years.
Have my combo from amazon tomorrow,$142 for 2 brushs cant be beat anywhere
Just a fyi. The name on the box hasn't changed with the new needle bearing update. My patriot is over a decade old and it's the same box
What you missed out on and what trips up most new badger users is that badger backs off the needles for transit and recommends lubing the needle before seating it correctly. Add to that if you are going to put cleaning tools in there you use paper dental tips. Use of those wire things damages the bearings
Very good review. My first airbrush was a 105 from a few years ago and it has been an absolute workhorse of a tool. I even have a 105 with a super detail conversion kit which gives me the same airbrush but with a .3mm needle.
The only other upgrade I would recommend is Badger's High Roller trigger. It's raised up by quite a bit and lets you get a finer trigger pull for more detail work.
Dude. I didn't know they even make stuff like this. Buying it now.
Update
The Hugh roller trigger is out of stock everywhere. 😢
I have all badger 200 airbrush I've had since the 80s, still doing great. I recently got the badger Kroger, same great quality.
Yah..........I've had mine for like 18/19 years and it still works great, same needle. Once you figure it out you can easily lay down a much lighter coat..........
I have this airbrush and it's my favorite airbrush.
I've used Badger airbrushing when I was new to airbrushing. It's a good item. Double action gravity feed.
Badger is the only airbrush I own. Started using them back in the early 90's and became friends with the owner and never looked back. Iwata does not impress me even though they are very popular. I had an HP-CS Eclipse and was not impressed with the hype. I had 12 Badger airbrushes at one time including the Sotar 2020, Krome, Renegade Velocity, 100LG, Omni 4000 and others. Loved them all. Great company, great owner and the best customer service in the business.
The 105 is my go to brush. You can get a smaller needle, it's .35mm. I swapped mine out and it uses a lot less paint.
What’s the name of needle that you swapped the original out with?
I just got a 105 for Christmas. I think it's ridiculous that it does not come with that adapter piece. I had to scour the internet to figure out what I needed to connect this brush to an air hose. Aside from that, this is a great brush.
I have a 105 Arrow which is the one with the smaller cup for a quite a while..you can purchase a needle guard for it..I put a extra fine set up on mine because i don't need the high paint flow of the medium and fine tips..the airbrushs that have the new needle bearings have a asterix next to model number etched on the brush..mine has the old set up and i've no problems with leakage in mine..the 105's nick name is the ''Paint Pump'' lol
I’m glad I came back and watched this again. My wife bought me a 105 for Christmas and when I cracked it up today the results weren’t stellar. I was running 25 psi! Can’t wait to try it out tomorrow at 15 psi. Keep up the great reviews👍👍
Have a suggestion for better finger-trigger control. Hardware stores sell kitchen cabinet silicon bumpers, these items are meant to replace the ones that fall off. These silicon bumpers come as a dome or flat top shape and peel and stick to your airbrush trigger. Cheers
Gosh. Your spray booth is so clean and your workbench so tidy.
Yes, I try to keep it like that for my videos. I have 4 tables in the room but I keep one super neat and clean for my vids.
Thanks for the review on the Badger airbrush, I'm looking forward to the upcoming reviews.
Thank you again for your suggestion I just ordered my badger Patriot 105 and received it yesterday, I have not painted with it yet I'm looking for a great primer so I can prime my model cars and then I'm going to start painting, thank you again for your amazing videos and teaching us guys that don't know nothing about paints airbrushes etc everything we do need to know. Thanks again your channel is amazing
also its easy on the 105 to loosen the needle, pull the trigger back some and tighten down the needle. so u dont have to moderate your trigger pull for those long paint cessions.
So the card included in the badger Patriot 105 states that the needle bearing is the 50-046 like the other badger airbrushes. However, the actual needle bearing is the R-007 for the R-0023 inner seal screw assembly. I learned this the hard way by trialing the 50-046 needle bearing. The 50-046 does not allow the needle to move in the bearing. I also contacted Badger regarding this issue, and this was affirmed. So when you need to replace the needle bearing, use the R-007. These part numbers are the same as the Renegade series. Thanks for your time.
Thank you, it was a very nice review. I've had a 105 for a few years sitting in a box under the layout. Finally got my air booth finished, and up and running, so I'm anxious to get back into painting. Your review of the paints was also very helpful. Best, Andy K.
If you want back pressure to clean or mix paint in the pot unscrew that end nozzle/spray regulator at the very front a little bit. Then pull back on the trigger just like you're painting and it'll bubble for you. When I'm cleaning mine I like to pull back on the trigger ALL the way back while I have cleaner in the pot then put a paper towel over the nozzle and apply pressure so it starts to bubble. The needle retracts all the way into the brush so you don't run the risk of touching the needle. It cleans that end nozzle too while I'm at it.
I only do the twist off the nozzle method. I show it in most of my videos but here because it came with the cap I did it this way.
Awesome video, thanks for the review cause I have for over a year and love it.
if you get the smaller .3 or maybe its a .2 but what ever their new small detail aka black tip has better tip protection. ive had my 105 for 6 years and replaced the needles a few times , theyre short $ . the needles cone does need cleaning after each use in my opinion. but super easy to do a full breakdown and clean in short order.
my workhorse. love all my Patriots.
They were makeing stuff for the pandemic, and other brands, but are slowly catching uo.
I love my 105. The high roller trigger and super detail kit are major upgrades.
Ooh yeah the sound of the badgers
Thank you for this video and review! Well done! I have been considering to buy this airbrush for a while now.
It's a great airbrush, I use it every day. I recommend this one as it comes with the adapter you'll need for the compressor
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Great demo. Just bought myself one for Christmas.
If you find a crown cap for 105 notify us in the community tab, funny story my family bought me the 105 last Christmas for 60$ and since late January it seemed it got lost in Amazon's transit and I asked for a replacement, and about February 4th I got my Christmas one and late February I thought they cancelled it after it came but the "replacement" came too
The super detail needle (0.3mm) kit for the 105 includes a crown cap. The detail needle (0.5 mm) is the default for the 105.
Very cool. I was looking at that one or the Iwata neo. I chose the Iwata. This will be my next one, thanks.
Just ordered on of these. Super excited to start using it. I had a cheap Iwata CN and was never able to get along with it.
I think the back of the airbrush allows to to set a max pull back on the trigger, so you don't accidentally use too much paint. Great review!
Hey bro having them links in your description is a life saver
Thanks !!
Anytime buddy, thanks for watching 👍
People spray without the cap so they can pick paint off the needle and it helps with targeting while spraying to see your needle and not some fat cap out front.
Just used mine for the first time last night, and the difference between this and what I was using is mind blowing. Really goes through paint if you don't know what you're doing.
I love this airbrush the more I use it. You made a great choice 👍
@@barbatosrex9473 what airbrush would you suggest for an absolute beginner?
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The unprotected needle is kind of a deal-breaker for me. Thanks for the review
I have used it for more than 3 years now, never had any issues. I love it
It's so dumb for them not to provide a needle protector.
I would just make one out of hot glue or something...but WHY!!!!!????!?!?!
Why are good companies so stupid so often?
Using acrylics even the shallow protector it comes with gets in the way. The 0.3mm detail set comes with an even better less obstructed cap like the sotar.
I'm removing tip dry with acrylics every 5 minutes when painting for long sessions - removing a protector just wastes time.
I've got a 105 but I have not used it yet, and I've heard lots of good reviews.
Good reviews for a reason. Let me know when you try it out
I bought Badger 100 (basicaly reviewed airbrush with not drilled backend cover) after two chinesee low ends, HS Evolution and Hansa 301. With 0,23mm needle (IIRC or is it 0,28?) it is very solid airbrush I use often. It is quite heavy when compared to other brands or types (I also have Ivatas, Krome etc.) and especially compared to HS Evolution comparing the weight is like comparing heaven and bagpipes. But that should be not so much a problem for revieved 105 Patriot as is in the case of 100 Patriot line. Anyway I forced a friend to make a CNC back end from aluminium. It is much lighter but quite nose heavy now.
Anyway I use it often, because it just works fine with any paint I have ever used. The trigger is acceltably precise, valve is working fine. I often recomend it when somebody asks for starting airbrush, because pricing is very near compared to IWATA NEO and other starting airbrushes and in my opinion it is almost indestructible and with 0,35mm needle has no problem with any paint. 0,23 needle is very fine too, so no problem with details.
This AB is awesome in my opinion. Only problem I ever had with Badgers is the weight.
I Picked up a 105 Arrow about a year ago. It’s basically a Patriot but It comes solely with the 0.3 needle and I believe it also has a smaller paint cup than the Patriot. Regardless, It’s my favourite brush. Very Even spray pattern and no it doesn’t take long for full coverage.
I Also run the Badger 150, an old favourite, and I have an old Model Master brush I’ve had since 1991. It’s non functional but it was my first so I keep it around. Lmao.
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I've had the Badger 105 for about 6 months. I use it all the time for primers and Mission Models paint. i have to thoroughly clean the airbrush after each use, otherwise the needle sticks or the spay pattern is not good. I thought that the plastic cup cap was a cost cutting item, as all my other airbrushes have a metal cap. Nice review.
No adjustable stop on the back is a deal killer for me. There are times I need to dial that motion way down in detail work. When I set up my Iwata HP-BCS siphon feed, I got an adjustable stop for it. I'm beginning to look for a large cup gravity feed with a .20 or .25, perhaps a .30 needle nozzle for fine detail work. I would love to stay with Iwata, but now at nearly 70, I am more conscious of budget, so am looking at other brands, hopefully with the close to the detail ability of a Super Micron but with a better price point.
Another wonderful review. Thanks for the tips
Wow, je vient tout juste de m'en acheter un Patriot 105 sans avoir vu ta vidéo, je suis tres contant de mon achat maintenant! merci pour tes infos sur le nettoyage aussi. 👍
Zup MR REX, love the video, very useful and informative. I own one of these Badger, and with my 3 kits of painting experience, I can say that it wasn’t a good one, if you remember me, talking to you about “orange peel”, I was using the badger, you mentioned a lot of paint coming out, even with a very low pressure(and mine came with the black back tip which is supposed to be a smaller needle), not good for beginners, in my humble opinion, but I’m only painting gundam kits. Also when fully cleaning the airbrush, the “back lever” (that’s how it’s called) is a pain in neck to hold the trigger and that part and thread the needle. I actually purchased an Iwatta, from Spray Gunner, one of your other airbrush recommendations 😎👍🏼and it has been a wonderful and enjoyable experience. Once again thanks a lot for all the work and time you spend making these videos. P.s: I have the Extream 105 and it comes with a black end
Another great review, thanks. However, my experience with Badger's Customer Service has put me off all their products.
Great review as always very informative thanks
Your Review sealed the deal and i brought one for great brush for spraying primer and Createx metallic paints FIY if you don't wont an open nozzle you can use part# BADGER 41-037 which is a crown type
Nice vid!!!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍
I haven't had any luck with my stynylzer gray primer. I used a .5 gravity gun with about maybe 20-25 psi and almost immediately gunked up all of my gun. It got everywhere
Lower the air pressure to 10-15 psi.
@@skrimshander I'll try it thanks
Very helpful!!!!
Just as a heads up to everyone out there that has a 105 and uses an ultrasonic cleaner to clean it. Watch the place were you hook up the compressor to at the very bottom can come loose and everything that is there can fall out and you can loose all of the pieces onto the floor.
The needle is also exposed because veteran airbrush users have learned to pick the dried paint off the tip of the needle which causes spattering.
T-shirt airbrush artists have been doing this for over 30 years.
man i love my 105, now i came from an Amazon master paper weight, but mine don't like water acrylics. HELLA tip dry. sprayin Badger primer, clogs within minutes. got x3 dig needles, still clogs on the .5
looooove it for lacquers.... it's beautiful to handle, but we just don't jive with water acrylics.
side note... swappin needle/nozzle is soooooooooooo much easier on this brush than others i've seen. so quick to change. you can do it without dumpin the cup if you're smooth about it or got the cap ready. it's nice.
also i use a generic quick connect for my hose with an adapter, no issues.
Great review. I use a UMP Apex, which is a badger Omni 4000, for everything. It has a 0.35 mm needle. I am looking at picking up a 105 and dedicating it to primer and 2k clear duties for that 0.5 mm needle. This has been a very helpful review.
Thanks my friend and thanks for watching, it's a great airbrush, you'll be very happy with it
swear I could listen to this guy talk about anything
Great job!
Good brush. Got a high roller trigger for mine.
Also prone to leak bubbles if you don’t tighten the press fit nozzle enough - where there used to be an o-ring.
Parts are interchangeable with the Anthem 155 which is a syphon feed version of the 105.
The Anthem comes with the silver 0.7mm firehose - replaced it with the Patriot's 0.5mm blue for base coats and primer.
The Patriot got the new 0.3mm black setup. Those two will be my two brushes for spraying acrylics on models.
HP-CS and PS-270 will be dedicated for airbrush illustration using Trident and Golden high flow - smoother triggers than badger.
@@LemurKrazyTry a SOTAR!
@@michaelvanbuskirk8845 have a few sotars. Pain to clean compared to 105.
@@LemurKrazy How so? Airbrushes do not need to be disassembled every time you clean them.
@@michaelvanbuskirk8845I disassemble after each painting session.
How would you compare the badger 105 to the madworks airbrush? Which would you rather use? Just painting plastic model kits.
Thank you
Have you tested any pistol grip AB's? I'm looking for one to be used mostly for primer
Great test of the Badger 105, please consider testing the Passche VL airbrush, it has a 0.5mm, 0.74mm, and a 1.05mm tip sets, it is a suction feed, made in the USA, and very inexpensive.
I will purchase one for review. Thanks for the suggestion
Thanks, I had a typo in my comment it is spelled Paasche.
I got a 20/20 and it leaks in the front. It works ok but I always fighting it for a fine line
Got such a great deal on Cyber Monday... 😊
I just wanted to thank you for recommending the PS290 and giving reassurance on the compressor needs. I just got it and it is fantastic. It works perfectly on my 3 liter compressor.
Can you spray alclad chrome over Stynylrez? It looks like a nice glossy black....
Awesome workhorse. Had a Patriot for a few years now and it is still going strong and my goto brush. Amazing what you can do with it. I detest the crown caps on any brush and always remove (if possible) just need to be very very careful! Thanks
BTW Doesn't it have 'Patriot' embossed on the side of the brush?
I was looking to buy my first airbrush from amazon or something but this morning I picked up a badger crescendo 175 with extra needles/nozzles, cups and hoses at a yard sale for $10, it does use siphon cups but right now it has a side gravity feed installed.. I dont know anything about airbrushes.. is this a good airbrush for beginner painting gunpla? I'm gonna scoop up the mr. Hobby paints you recommended to run through it
Lol you just freaked out a whole plethora of viewers who probably have no idea why there's no spray head ;) I saw a few who said this was deal breaker having no clue why yet buying equipment. Great video as always!
BTW This is General/Heavy duty Airbrush designed to paint large areas quickly not for painting the Eyeballs of Warhammer miniatures lol.
P.S. These 105's ship with the .5mm needle/nozzle (Blue Needle back) but you can buy the full kit that comes with the .3mm (Black needle knob) and a larger .7mm (Silver Needle Knob) which is basecoat/primer body painters dream. I have 2 of these and would say kick it up to 20psi and yes with the .5 and .7 setups this thing drinks paint like nobodies business. The .3mm is a good choice and will still push thicker enamels properly thinned. All around a great brush when used for it's intended purpose. You can decent detail with the .3mm but this is really for painting large areas quickly, though you can blend/fade camouflage with the #3 easily enough and it does lay a good line though nothing close to hairline of course.
That's a mighty fancy pipe...
Hi, i am looking to bye a 100G 0,3 mm needle, is it good? i youse MR.paint and Alclad paint
I use the badger patriot 105 and paint does sometime leak to the trigger. I do like to spray at 15 psi. You were using the fine needle (blue head). I have most of the top quality AB but I want to master the 105 before I go to another one. You sprayed a Vallejo game air at 15 psi. I thought you said that the Vallejo model air works best with a larger needle and at a higher pressure 25 psi. Why did it work here at 15 psi? Thanks for posting.
If yours is newer with the screw on the back side of the teflon needle seal, turn the screw in slightly and you can fix that leak on you own, easily.
It all comes down to the design of the nozzle, here on this one it just let's a ton more paint through a d in turn that helps with a thicker acrylic such as Vallejo.
A paint question. I am very interested in the Badger STYNYLREZ Gloss Black Primer. I am a model railroader and will be painting a fleet of locomotives black and yellow. Is this gloss black a suitable paint for a finish coat that will have decals applied and then a flat finish over that? Is there a better option for this? Thanks, Andy K
Mr Hobby PS-289 vs 105 using it for models and weathering?
I have a question after watching the video and this is the airbrush you recommend do I need to order the fitting that will connect to a regular air brush hose, I also apologize for all the questions but it just seems like you're so knowledgeable and I just want to get everything right want to do it one time so I appreciate you answering all my questions
Mr. Barbatos Rex. Which would you recommend for spraying primers and clearcoats; the Badger 105 or Procon Boy Single action that you reviewed ? I have the GSI Creos PS270 as my main gun and I'm loving it. But want something that can spray the thicker stuff.
The Patriot 105 without a doubt
Hello sir - it's me again. As you see, I followed your link to the Badger 105.
Do you stay active with instant messaging? If so, which platform do you use?
Hold your finger on the trigger properly and you would get better control of the spray. It will paint finer lines than you did with the first paint you used.
Is that gsi creos still your favourite or havr the brought out a better one since you made this video? I was really thinking about buying a Mr. Hobby airbrush for painting my 3d printed models but im not sure which one to get...
This is the one you want. And it's on sale now
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So if I got this could I spray a full car kit with this? Or would i need other needles for like dash and smaller pieces. From primer to clear with the .5. Thanks. Love your content
I got one after they first came out and the label on the box just says model 105 as well; like yours but mine didn't have the note and card about the new needle bearing
I am very interested to buy this airbrush...One question: I received an Iwata Sprint Jet compressor as a gift...will the Patriot work well with the Sprint Jet? Looks like the compressor has a working psi of 0-35 psi.
I am looking to buy a airbrush. For painting car models. What airbrush do you recommend. I have one for primer I need one for airbrushing the color coat
You mentioned that its very low pressure friendly and could be use with the canned air. Did you get a chance to test it with the cans?
I am looking for pre thinned black primer what brand do you recommend?
Thanks for the video. I have a few craft projects coming up. I have a .3 airbrush. I’m looking for another one with a bigger needle to lay down more paint. I looked at your trigger .5mm and a flat cap $140. And the B105 is $70. What’s your thoughts?
Hello mate.
Greetings from Denmark.
Thanks for some interesting videeos. I'm looking foreward to your video where you will use those empty pens.
I also hope you can help me....
What is the different between a flat paint and a matt paint??
Thanks you for the review! You are the one I trust. The Patriot 105 is maybe going to be the replacement for my Paasche Talon GF which really sucks, crappy... Got some bubbles in the cap all the time, got it for camouflage purposes but too mush promblems with it... Can someone suggest me alternatives (or solutions for my Paasche?)
I had the “bubble” problem with a Paasche VL I just picked up. Drove me nuts…until I read the “troubleshooting” section of the manual. The solution to that problem is to crank down really hard on the air cap and nozzle using that little wrench they include. That seems counterintuitive since most airbrush fittings are finger tight. Not this one. I used pliers to tighten down the bigger hex nut and MAN!!! What a difference!! Works like a charm! It’s nuts how much that tiny extra turn changed things.Give that a try before you give up on it.
Nice!!!
You missed a great feature that it has, in fact most of Badger's airbrushes have it. The needle safety. Whenever you're done you just pull the trigger all the way back and slide it to either side into the side cut outs and the needle tip is protected.
Yes, I just discovered that. A good idea. I do love the way it sprays
Broke the thread on my Iwata Revolution Nozzle, ordered a new one, if i can't get the new one to work because of the thread if part of it got stuck i may order this since it has a compression fit nozzle and different needle sizes, i mostly just paint bases with the airbrush and will try to do shading next so it will prob be good for me.
This is a great airbrush for basing and shading. I use this airbrush every day, believe me when I say you'll be very happy with it
@@barbatosrex9473 That's cool, it also costs a bit cheaper than the Revolution.
Darn good airbrush for the money, I use one....
Nice idea about using an inexpensive brush for additional nozzle and paint cup cleaning.
(Wonder what the 0.3mm needle version of the 105 would be like, performance wise).
Just wondering, I thought “stynylrez” (sp?) recommended a much higher air pressure for spraying the badger primers?
I'm wondering about the other needles too. I'm going to test them all but a couple of my go to places to buy them are out. I'm tracking them down now
What compressor model?
The brush has patriot engraved on the side of the brush.
i just ordered this brush and damn it, idk it had an exposed needle! i hope i don't end up mucking it up! lol
I usually prime around 30 PSI with stynylrez. What's the benefit to going so low?
The manual that comes with the 105 Patriot says to set the psi to 15. I was shocked at first because of every airbrush I've used before it calls for a much higher psi but it sprayed everything perfectly at their requested PSI
Would you recommend the Badger 105 or the PS290 for primer and model car?
Both are great but taking the price as a factor the Badger is great. Also the Badger has 3 different needle sizes you can swap out. The Badger is perfect for Primer and auto model colors. 👍
Does anyone know if that Game Air purple is the color Alien? I want to use that on a custom monster truck for my kid. Thanks. Love the review
Yes it's Alien Purple