Roman Emperor Caligula's coffee table
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2021
- How a lost mosaic from the Roman emperor's reign ended up entertaining guests in a New York City apartment.
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"It was in her interest to give it up" sounds like a mafia threat.
*best
It sure does..
Just a spot of Italian clarity
The Mafia does not have a grip in Lazio, I would think the pressure to release would be Papal and or Government.
@@___bluff___ The real mafia.
Imagine a mosaic coffee table sitting in your New York flat, that was once on Caligula’s houseboat and not even realizing it….
And then spilling a coffee on it 😄😄😄😄
New york flat? What am I, jeff bezos?
Modern historians think a lot of his reputation may have been made up as propaganda to discredit him after his death. Who can say though?
Shes an art dealer, I bet she k we very well, she was at a book signing for the same subject matter
Joe Biden = Tiberius
Hunter Biden = Caligula
The similarities are truly astounding.
The stories this coffee table could tell…
Ugh I think it's best if it keeps its mouth shut XD
None of them would involve coffee
@@UmVtCg I doubt that
This coffee table would have been in the living room, not the bed room.
i know, right? all that debauchery...and that's just after it got to park avenue :-)
Great story choice. More history on 60 Minutes.
It’s a mosaic (essentially a tile), not a rug.
"He was incredibly brutal, cruel, not a nice person..." but he had a nice coffee table apparently lol
Probably had his sister over it.
good description of most roman emperors
And he was brutally murdered by his own guards because of how evil he was.
@@konnen4518
Not evil, nobody is, but mentally ill by all accounts.
In his his planned expedition against Britain in 40 AD, he got no further than the Channel, where he ordered the troops to gather seashells to mimic the military glory of his predecessors. He loved Incitatus, his favourite horse, so much that he gave him a marble stall, an ivory manger, a jeweled collar and a house.
Wanted to make him a consul but Caligula got done in before he could.
He was a nut job.
🤣👍!
Pleeeeeease make a follow up video when Anderson delivers this woman her new “coffee” table. I wanna see that.
I want to see the Italian government do the right thing and give her a cut of the museum revenue.
@@mrsquishyboots I suspect the table was not the Italian family's to sell, in other words, the transaction was illegal.
@@kayumochi exactly! The lady knew what she was buying and that it was something illicit
Joe Biden = Tiberius
Hunter Biden = Caligula
The similarities are truly astounding.
@@pappyodanial...... Please detail those similarities. Delusional, right wing, liar.
Caligula might've had the first idea for Kramer's coffee table book that also functioned as a coffee table
😂😂😂
"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."
get out of my head lol
It would be nice to give the lady back a replica of this table since she willingly cooperated in giving back the original one.
I’ve been making mosaic coffee tables I’d love to make her a replica for free
Did you miss the part where the Manhattan District Attorney "convinced" her to give the mosaic back? He probably explained to her that she could've potentially faced serious criminal charges for illegally importing cultural relics. She did the smart thing and gave back the mosaic before she got in trouble for buying and importing stolen art
@@grontelp77 yes, while she did nothing wrong...was she reimbursed ? - I would have destroyed it if it was mine...
@@jandoerlidoe3412 destroying historical, one of a kind archaic art for spite, says much about the person.
@@jandoerlidoe3412 and for that you would enjoy your time in prison
It went on display "after the Italians got the stains out of it" Lots of spilled tea and coffee there. LOL Can't stop laughing.
Wine too
I can just picture some middle-aged Italian lady scrubbing away while muttering in Italian about sloppy Americans
I love antique and Roman empire stories.
Please make her a copy of that table, and then follow up with another segment. This was great.
If she acquired it in the 1960s from a wealthy family, there is a good chance that the table was unethically sourced or possibly looted.
She probably doesn’t have the clear provenance, hence why she was SUGGESTED to return it. If she declined, they would have probably made a legal issue out of repatriation.
Del Buffalo said he wants to make her one
60 minutes is fake news anyway.
@@thomasr3805 She's a wealthy art gallery owner who lives on Park Avenue. She can afford to have a copy made at little expense.
@@dudsulugulugan7639 and you are insignificant, so there you have it.
Manhattan DA: "It's best that you give it to them, before they make you an offer you can't refuse".
That's what I literally just thought when I heard that lol
First thing lily white bigots think about when it comes to Italians.
@@mrJohnDesiderio takes one to know one.
@@mrJohnDesiderio I don't know if anybody's told you this, but Italians are white.
@@Ideo7Z There was actually an awful lot of anti-Italian racism in the US, until a concerted effort to adjust their image as "white", even though they're Mediterranean. The Greeks got the same pass because white folks admired their cultural and artistic achievements.
That said, regarding the OP's statement, it's actually not a stretch to consider that an antiquities dealer in the US could get in trouble with La Cosa Nostra which is still definitely a power in Italy and has its hands in the art market for the same reasons oligarchs everywhere do.
Wasn't it Cramer (on Seinfeld) that wanted to do a book about coffee tables? This would be prefect material for him.
Such a cool story! An ancient mosaic turned into a modern day coffee table that had stains, from the mugs, on it - utterly amazing!
I could listen to him speak the entire day, what an amazing accent.......
He's got an heavy (modern) roman accent, how ironic
My moms French but raised in Casa Blanca. I grew up 6 years in Naples, Italy then went to High school in Athens, Greece 5 years. I listened to these accents and languages all my young life and to this day so it's no big deal to me....but I'm glad it's awesome to you. Just goes to show what some take for granted because it was normal and what others think is awesome and could listen to all day. Cheers.
So that table has outlived emperors and kings for a thousand years and ended up a coffee table lol
When a friend and I took our school-aged sons to see the Treasures of Pompeii at the National Gallery of Art in DC, I said, "This stuff has been through an earthquake and a volcano erupting. Please don't be the worst thing that has happened to it." The boys did fine and the artifacts were no worse for our visit.
He should ask that lady if she has any grails lying around
😄
If his design in a simple coffee table was ahead of its time just imagine all of his other projects he had created
it was made into a coffee table in the 1960s, the mosaic was created for the marble dance floor of one of Caligula's party boats that would sail around the lake while entertaining guests.
Can we kiss?
@@Ozhull 😂
@@jgp1294 thanks for correction, such fascinating stuff
Caligula had a pontoon bridge built across three miles of the Bay of Naples.
Similar story to the rediscovery of the Golden Palace, or Domus Aurea, an impressive piece of architecture left behind by another of Rome’s famously mad emperors, Nero. Legend has it that Nero set the city of Rome on fire to clear space for the construction of his golden pleasure palace.
It wasn’t until the 14th century that the palace ruins, buried at that time, were rediscovered by complete accident. Its opulent decoration was so impressive to contemporary Italians that it became a destination for the finest artists of the day, like Michelangelo and Rafael, who took inspiration and incorporated the style of the faded frescoes into their own work.
The discovery is seen as having a formative impact on the development of Renaissance art.
Most historians now don’t think he actually was involved in setting the fires (they were likely accidental), but he definitely took advantage of the results.
Wow! It's in incredible condition for a table so old. It was in the water for 1900 years, yet, the table is 100% intact.
A few decades ago, they starting pulling submerged logs from the Columbia River, old growth that had been lost during transport. Those logs were in incredible shape and started a serious search for more because of their excellent condition. Water is not always destructive.
The Romans never had coffee. Thus there is no Roman coffee table.
What an extraordinary flash-in-the-pan of pure serendipity!
He would really dislike that we are calling him Caligula
Imperator Gaius Germanicus.
Ol' Little Boots
Good!
Good old Bootsy.
Name dropping trigger
"Exact copy. She could not tell the difference." I bet Dario has the real table and the one given back to the Italian government is a copy.
Fascinating story about Caligula’s Gardens tonight. Well done.
Fascinating... I was thinking how Caligula's rule seem to have some parallel to Mussolini's.. as to how they were both hated and their historical existence after they were killed the people tried to erase.. although no one would dispute Caligula was far more a tyrant..
That coffee table is gorgeous!
I wonder if she still speaks to “that guy”?
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Yea that guy was horrible trust me
Idk man north italy is still pretty fascist. Like, extremely lol
@@Greenfeld13 all of Italy is still "a bit" fascist, can confirm
The way she had to return that piece, I'm now wondering if it was stolen and resold on the market.
I would just like to say that the most compelling argument I heard about Caligula from scholars when I was in grad school was that he had syphilis, which when untreated makes you exceedingly 'mad.'
I thought syphilis was brought to Europe from the Americas, so wouldn't have existed during Roman times
@@yru3646 Generally, it's believed that Syphilis (who's first modern outbreak was in 1498 in Italy) was a New World disease transported over. But the bacteria that causes it is related to the Yaws disease (from Southern Africa) and there is evidence that outbreaks may have occurred in the 14th and 13th century and misidentified as leprosy.
Caligula's early lifespan predates most suggestions of the pre-Columbian origin of Syphilis (either from an undiscovered African strain or some other unknown source i.e. Vikings or something) and it's more likely his madness was caused by a number of other things. Lead poisoning, genetics, trying to up the Imperial lifestyle of his forebears, who knows. A lot of it, of course, is propaganda. But not all of it. Even today, we have Hitlers and Mugabes and Husseins who aren't syphilitic.
@@TimThomason Hitler had Prince Charles Edward. Every monster seems to be propped up by a different nation will ill intent
Bootykins, how funny we remember him by his childhood nickname.
Cmover here bootykinds
That sounds like a fun nickname for one’s gf hahah (not that I’d know 😛)
What an amazing story. The artwork has all the qualities of modernity design and composition. Wow!
This is amazing - thanks 60 minutes.
"In her best interest to give it up." No way, I would be like, "I bought this and if you want it back you are gonna have to cough up a lot of dough."
Let us know how the lawsuit turns out, then, for possession stolen antiquities…..
@@gene8172 That's rich coming from a government that used the Colosseum as a quarry.
this historian is a good dude
I wouldn’t mind having a copy of the table for myself. I’ve always loved inlay, and geometric designs are one of my favorites.
No kidding it would be a great thing to have as a centerpiece in every home . Many of us love Emperor Caligula.
The Chinese are already making a copy to be sold in the Walmart for $19.99
He's low key funny. I like that guy.
Goodness me that's an amazing story
Powerful
Lol...some art dealer in NYC having coffee and Tea on a Roman Emperors table...awsome!!!!
This was an excellent and interesting segment. Thanks.
I wonder if the lady did get her coffee table (the facsimile that is) back? Hope so. Great story.
Right? So what happened/is happening? 60 minutes, talk about a cliff hanger 😓
Right? So what happened/is happening? 60 minutes, talk about a cliff hanger 😓
I'd scan that with a Blacklight before using it 😬😅😂
I wonder what other lost antiques are in apartments on 5th avenue...
am i the only one more intrigued by the guys saying he could make perfect replicas???
All I hear from this guy is "I am a vampire, I like to drink human blood."
Almost racist hah
@@rafiashraf2769 I was talking about Anderson Cooper.
I love history!!
She gave the table back but kept the Caligula coasters
Did it make it into Kramer's Coffee Table book?
Nice. Very lucky. Original is now safe and on display and the good Lady got a beautiful coffee table with a most interesting background story.
"incredibly brutal, cruel, not a nice person" ... oh, but he didn't put out mean tweets.
Well, just think what might have been on top of those tiles. Or maybe don't, because we're talking about Caligula. Suetonius can give you some information there.
Loved this. ✌🏻👏🏼
The colours and the shapes (but not the details, of course) look very much like tribal designs of Eastern Africa. When I first saw the table, I immediately thought of the Maasai shield on the Kenyan flag.
PS: I also thought it was Björn Borg, when the Italian expert appeared in the interview. 😄
So, if you are some nobody you need to give back the artifact, but if you are a famous museum you can keep all the loot... Sounds fair.
That’s awesome! So glad table was returned!
One of the best ancient history stories from recent years. Its a life goal of mine to get good at my craft and produce similar art.
Priceless reporting. Thankyou.
amazing stroy,!! Thank you
That table is beautiful
This is a wonderful man. Give her back her table a copy she won't be able to tell the difference... That warmed my heart ❤️
Great interview and store. De Bufelo is amazing.
My father flew TBM Avengers in WWII. When I was 5 or 6 he taught ground training to Firesign students fir the Air Force. One day S Korean military officials came to observe. He told a story about sitting in TBM waiting fir the order to destroy a bridge, the order never came because the Japanese in charge committed suicide. After the talk, one the officers came up,and told my father his fortunate it was he did bomb the bridge. The officer was in the Resistance and he and other resistance members were hiding under the bridge. This piece brought story to mind,
Caligula came to power at age 25; a "kid" by today's standards; whether or not the characterization is fair. I don't know that the retrospective, "Historical" assessments will ever provide an accurate picture of the person. However, for what is known with certainty, I am certain that I would defer from the life he lived. That aside, his "artistic sense" resonates a positive NOTE. Quite advanced for the often brutal realities of his time.
Thank you.
I don’t think his artistic taste was “advanced” compared to most of his reality - every rich person in the Roman empire knew art and wanted it if they could afford it. Of course being emperor he was on a different level.
The Roman’s had great taste.
I’ve heard that Caligula Boat House was HUGE and was Decked Out! And GORGEOUS? With the best of the best! I wish we could see it but it caught on fire during the War because the museum was bombed. Sadly such a wonderful piece of history.
There were two Nemi ships. The Nazis burned them in the heat of their defeat.
@@Arskanbooki yeah, sadly they did bomb 💣 it and it burned what was left of the boats, ships, barges, idk 🤷♀️ what to call them because they were HUGE… LOL 😂
But sadly that’s a piece of history my generation and my children will never be able to see.
Amazing stuff.
Shouldn’t have given it back. The table will end up in another rich Italian families collection one day.
Perhaps in several hundred years, but in the meantime it is on display for everyone to see and appreciate for it's age and artistry. A wealthy person had it made, another wealthy person may end up with it again, but those are the people who will protect and preserve it if public institutions can't or won't.
This makes me wonder if anything else survived the fire that destroyed the Lake Nemi Boats!
Look at that, the Italians get it back but the rest of us we don’t get our artifacts back.
Some unstable countries shouldn't get their artifacts back because they'll just get stolen and sold on the black market.
@@adambomb30 Exactly! A lot of artifacts are best left in stable countries that can actually take care of them.
Yeah they'll just sell it again
@@FletcherFinance
And? Seriously and what? Those artifacts have nothing to do with europeans or Americans history. If they get lost so what, at least they will remain in the place of their origin and the people they represented. Its really quite something seeing foreigners who think they have a say on how other people should deal with their history.
Caligula surely had everything under the sun dripping on that mosaic.
Piece of art👍
What I can gather by Galigula, demise his Imperial Pretorian Guards assinated him on his way back from watching the Gladiatorial carnage at the Colosium...taking a short cut back to the Palace & being a bit Enibreated from alcohol 🍸he was caught him off guard by the time he probably realized what was about to happen his life quit literally flashed in front of him with devastating effect..
"Guyis Galigula Cesar"
Little boots.
Awesome Table:
Sorry mate, the colosseum was not been build yet! And was not a gladiatorial fight but a music rehearsal he attended before been slayed..✌
I named a stray cat that I took in as a kitten. I named her TIBERIUS. She nearly SLAUGHTERED MY dog!
Wow! Just wow.
What an incredible gesture of “good will” if they gave that poor lady a copy of the mosaic. While they’re at it, they can make one for me too!
Poveretta? É una donna molto ricca.
Why should Helen give the table back it she bought it legally? It’s probably worth $1M or something. I would definitely have sought the best legal advice on this
Amazing that Caligula drank coffee 1500 years before everyone else outside of Yemen.
It could have played out in the courts for years, bona fide purchaser and the New York rule on stolen art overcoming the statute of limitations, thanks lady for denying lawyers a fee and just doing the right thing.
She probably got a little encouragement from the Italian mob in New York. If Italy wants that mosaic it's going to get it back no matter what.
It would have fallen under antiquities treaties the US is a part of. She would have been sued for it and she would have lost because the piece was stolen and sold to her illegally (not her fault), but she still would have had to give it up. It rightfully still belonged to the people of Italy.
Makes you wonder how many artifacts are just sitting on someone's self or in their attic.
Shelf. But I don't blame you.
THOSE WERE SOME FUN TIMES SAID NO ONE NEVER.
Obviously it’s better to be in a museum properly cared for. Although the idea of it having been contemporarily used is quite entertaining.
"It would be in her best interest to give it up..." So another state threatening sitizens.
this is awesome!!!
Malcolm McDowell as Caligula was good
Brilliant!
It really ties the room together…
it tells us he liked well built furniture
The lady should have kept the table. Let them prove it was 100% The emperor's table. Good luck with that.
They had photographs of it from before it disappeared and it would be child's play to isolate any section of the surface with all the small irregularities in mosaic in size and spacing and establish a perfect match. 100%
So did she get anything in return for the table? It was technically hers in the first place.
I suspect it "technically" was never hers because the transaction was illegal.
Wow i NEVER thought a story caused by the life of Caligula could be this wholesome
Would recommend "I, Claudius" (book or TV, although probably book by Robert Graves) to anyone who liked this video. If you like history in an accurate, yet easy to read form, read it. Caligula was HORRENDOUS, but without perspective a person can't get a feel for what things were really like back then. Just seeing this table after reading "I, Claudius" makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
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That's... that book is historical fiction, not an account from the likely heavily biased primary sources. People, don't take Sofia's advice. Please. Fiction isn't real.
@@dutchplanderlinde8883 I didn't recommend the book as a work of non-fiction or as a reference book. I simply said that it's a fairly accurate, interesting book and provides a little easy reading about that period, however fictionalized.
With John Hurt giving a stand out performance as Caligula in the TV series.
I Claudius was one of the best historical series! The acting and script were breathtaking! I can't watch it again because I have watched it so many times I think I have the dialogue of all the episodes by heart
Helen got shafted.
Sounds to me like Caligula was acting out on that guy what Tiberius had done to him...
Very true.
Little boot was the embodiment of the step bros song Boats N H0es
"Shhhhhh"
-Helen on Park Avenue
Rick: best I can do is 50 bucks, I gotta make something, I gotta send it in to get it framed
I got this friend he lives in a castlr let me give him a call
EXCELLENT PRODUCT!!
Helen Fioratti knew exactly what she had in her house and thats why she ran away quickly after her friend unintendedly exposed her at that booksigning. She is someone who is not just a collector and a dealer but she has written many books on antiques and history and she is an expert on the subjects. So much of the world's art is stolen art. Tax-deductable funding of archeological excavations in poor countries has been a source of theft and income for many rich families in the west for ages.
Caligula's Coffee table? Okay youtube, sure I'll look
It’s not an interview without an Anderson giggle!
How many women were railed on this table by Caligula?
Lol 🤣😂😅👍💀
How many dudes as well
The least of my worries would be about coffee stains on a table owned by Caligula , if his reputation is true.
What makes you think they're coffee stains?
Thankfully, Caligula never had one made out of glass .....