The Flair 58+ Is The Best Manual Espresso Yet. But...

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2024
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Комментарии • 63

  • @homecafecharlie

    Thanks so much for watching everyone! If you want to buy a Flair 58+ I would really appreciate it if you use my affiliate link which helps me pay my new editor:

  • @HarbourPoland

    I got Flair 58 (full electric) new design, got mirror for it (on magnet, as is in 58+, because new 58 got this magnetic spot; I bought inspection mirror which is 3x cheaper and looks almost exactly as the original Flair mirror, cuz both are made in P.R.C.). I'm also using bigger mirror (10 cm diameter) which I put on the right side of the Flair. The only difference between new 58 and 58+ I can see is in coloration. I'm using Umikot WDT tool (3D printed), 1ZPresso J-Ultra and two sided leveler-tamper tool from MHW-3Bomber. I got so consistent shots without any spurts - no spots on mirrors. I can confirm that Flair 58 needs finer grinding. I also got Eureka Classico and it can't grind properly even when it operates almost at zero point. Flairs 58/58+ are magnificent levers. You only need to like the preparation phase not to be bored by it (I love it) and you'll get superb espressos. One tip to see coffee flowing from NPF like you see on reels: use very fresh beans and you'll see beauty of the process :-) Cheers!

  • @petes_CE

    I've had the Flair 58 for a few months now and it makes great espresso! There's a bit of a learning curve, but it's part of the fun.

  • @jetgarcia8819

    Over priced product…

  • @jenga2017

    Twice boiled water tastes different.. what? Well, I did some research and yeah, it's a scientific thing. Always learning random new tidbits. Thanks much! :D

  • @slothsarecool
    @slothsarecool 21 день назад

    $300 for a scale, what 😅 it's insane

  • @blacksterangel
    @blacksterangel День назад

    Commenting on the shots running faster, I do experience that with my Flair 58x. I have to grind at 7 clicks with Comandante C40 with Red Clix which is way finer than the manufacturer recommends for espresso. I doubt the basket is the problem because I've upgraded my basket to IMS precision basket. I think the reason is because water kinda seep through the puck screen when I fill the brew head, and it started some kind of atmospheric-pressure pre-infusion.

  • @coreymbonge9532

    Great video but i must beg to differ with the final note: the flair is not the best purist espresso maker for the price. It is definitely one of the best, but the Leverpresso Pro is about 60% of the price of the Flair 58x, and capable of pulling similar shots. The flair has a leg up with the heated water reservoir and wider range of accessories, as the LP uses a 51mm basket. However, pre-heating is a minor inconvenience to save $300 and I personally prefer shots pulled from thicker pucks. I'm pretty sure I'll pick one of these up in the long run, but I'm pretty happy with my LP. It's gonna be hard to beat.

  • @poutamahobman2229

    No room for sensibly priced scales!!?

  • @TomJones-tx7pb

    wow going on about twice boiled water. The review is actually more accurate than most on this machine, but selling different baskets and tampers is against the philosophy of this no nonsense machine. The machine not turning off can be fixed with home automation power plugs. What cannot be fixed is that you cannot automatically turn it on for a morning preheat. Also the middle heat setting is effectively the same as the top setting, and the low setting lets the water keep cooling too much. So in all, this is the best machine out there for a perfect manual extraction unless you want get into to temperature surfing, which is a real thing for seeking an excellent extraction, as in a Decent.

  • @MoKiShea

    Considering that practically all high end machines still use boilers and only manual machines is it even feasible to NOT use twice boiled water, I think it's safe to say that the difference is negligible. If it made that big of a difference we would see more machines boiling on demand like that $20k Manument James Hoffmann reviewed.

  • @andrewsmithty

    Charlie, so great to see the flair58 content.

  • @sunvalleydrivemusic

    Thanks Charlie! I’d like to hear a little more about how long you pulled a traditional shot and see how you ramped down the pressure over time, but this def is on my list to buy. Thanks again for your content!

  • @chris9923

    Thanks Charlie, good review. I have a 58+ and I love it. I use a felicita arc scale (turned sideways!).

  • @arwinzaidem623

    try the Timemore Black Mirror Nano or Mini scales (Nano has the on/off switch at the side so it's not ideal cause there's not a lot of space left for your finger to touch the scale) the MHW-3BOMBER Cube Coffee Scale-Mini works as well! :)

  • @fliacragno

    Great review!! I did notice the same about the need to grind finer for the Flair 58+ and the high-flow stock basket. I have an iTop 40+ grinder (64mm flat burrs) and had to switch the burrs from multifunctional (similar to SSP multipurpose) to espresso burrs (similar to SSP high uniformity) to get the grind fine enough to pull a 3:1 shot in 30-40 seconds for light roasted coffee and 2.5:1 shot for medium roast. I'm also using an IMS 15g basket (filling it with 16g of light roast or 15g of medium roast) so that I don't run out of water at the end of the extraction. Regarding the scale, I found the MiiCoffee Nano scale fits in perfectly inside the drip tray. It has a 0.1g precision, timer, and lithium-ion battery. I think I paid $32 for it. Which is a steal for what it is.

  • @geraldcvm332

    great review! I use mine with a pesado HE basket which I use for light roasted beans.

  • @montanausa329

    I went with the pro 2 because of the cost. To make the water chamber is hot I bought a little pan that fits in the palm of my hand. The metal top goes in upside down and just fits. I put water inside and around the outside. Put it on the cooktop and boil it. I do that first by the time the puck is ready and the water is boiling all is ready. I can’t set it on top of my kettle the pot was $11 off Amazon

  • @hookedonwood5830

    Have the exact setup. I have the searchpean tiny 2s scale that fit perfect - just without the tray.

  • @nounta1016

    Would love to know how much work it is to clean, how many parts, can you even clean it right away after a shot due to it being so hot to touch?