There's people today who can write but why bother when Jay-Z and Wayne built the industry in a way where there's no place for lyrical rap and you can make more money rapping about bullshit? Don't hate the player, hate the game.
@frequentiis Because thats the foundation of what rap is. Rap is a skill that consists of 4 things *Creativity, Rhythm, Wordplay and Lyricism* , which all add up to being able to play with words in a very intelligent and sophisticated fashion. Thats like asking why do singers still have to have a good voice?.............Because thats what makes a singer a singer. By ignoring lyricism you are literally taking away of what it means to be a rapper which is evidently happening with todays rappers since the title is just thrown at everyone even though they don't fit the criteria. Rapper in today's society is more of a lifestyle and status than an actual artform with craft and talent.
@@godrules3596 You didn't answer his question he asked why you have to dig the internet to find rappers who are half decent lol? if you have to dig for something then by definition it’s not thriving and alive or it would be readily available
I remember the shift and it sucked. Wayne & Jay never SOUNDED like they didn't write...then everyone started trying it and sounded like they NEED to write. it's a very special skill that few actually possess like you said & I wish more emphasis was put on lyrics and not just making a song for the bragging rights of "I don't write anything down..."
What Jay-Z stated he did would memorize his rhymes so....he could memorize bars probably 2 to 4 or 4 to 8 or 8 to 16 for hours before spitting everything out. Or he just memorize a whole song for that matter....Wayne just punches in every line
And the difference is Biggie and JayZ would remember the entire song hook and verses then record it that's what separates them and everybody else who punches in
Thats a very common thing to be honest bro. Its been that way. Jay wasnt the first to do it and he only mentioned it to sway but many people do it n wasnt even thinkin bout J
That headstone in the thumbnail is bogus ASF. Lyricism never died, it's still around to this day. It's just not being pushed to the mainstream. You have to dig to find it. These youngstas only want bullshyt mumble rap so that's what the radio and media push. But there's still lots of Lyricist around. Kendrick, j Cole, and Lupe the first ones come to mind.
They actually had great skill at not having to write but that's definitely not the majority. They didn't kill lyricism, laziness, complacency and brain dead rappers did.
It’s like rapping fast, it’s cute at first but after awhile it wears off. Just because you can freestyle your shit doesn’t make it great, it’s hard to rap cohesive verses when you’re going off the top. I like quality content not just rapping to rhyme with no substance
I just recently been able to freestyle off the top but i still take the pen and pad into the booth. it just feels the right way to do it. i respect and honor this craft.
The lox vs dipset vs I think was evidence that practice (whether written or freestyle) is essential in any generation. Dipset I feel had so many well known songs but the performance is so much more electrifying when the group is together and rehearsed.
I feel like people needa start seeing their raps as ART. Rap and Music period is ART. Art is subjective meaning theres no written right way to make it. Theres nun wrong with using a pen and paper to write yo shit instead of forcing yoself to freestyle. Theres nun wrong with any of it long as u making ART
I think if we start thinking about it this way, the natural progression is that the standard gets raised, the fanbase gets smarter, and the music gets better.
@@leahdubskushlyfethe sad truth is if you dont elevate the culture, nothing will change. A philosopher is a fool to an idiotic culture, a virtuous man is evil to a degenerate society, nothing will change until the culture is elevated. The individual is always trapped within the expectations of the masses, its a depressing truth, but until the consciousness of the masses are elevated, nothing will change.
What’s crazy is you can still punch in with a written a lot of rappers who use the punch in method aren’t even dope off the top so it’s not as natural when they do it because they never practiced that
A freestyle is when a rapper doesn't have specific topic, just bars. Somewhere down the line causal fans created their own definition. Nowadays rappers don't understand song structure, so you could consider their regular songs freestyles.
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 I respectfully disagree with the sentiment that “casual fans” created a definition. I come from the out the trunk mixtape era. Freestyling has ALWAYS been about rapping off the top. And respectfully hip hop is all I know I’m far from a “casual” fan
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 and song structure In hip hop is irrelevant when the genre was built off breaking the mold of a “structured song” that’s kinda the problem now. Instead of hip hop being the culture we got college classes teaching you how to do something you supposed to be born in too
@@Deontelewis846 Maybe if you are talking about battle rap, but most rap songs have hooks, and the verses are 16 bars, that is at bare minimum structure
Jay-Z did NOT give us Kanye West. Dame Dash did that. thats the problem with him & his fans. yall give him credit that isnt his & he goes along with ..
NO! Dame signed Kanye just for his beats and let him THINK he was gonna rap to keep his beats in house on some shady sh*t! Jay-Z believed in Kanye as a creator and let him put his 1st verse on Jay-Z's album. 👌
First of all you are so funny, I loved this video and found your narrative entertaining. I put a lot of responsibility on the listeners. I think we have a culture of critiquing which is useful but not always productive. If we start putting our attention on music that's meaningful and hard to reproduce, we can shift the standard of rap music. Big fan of this video I will be checking out more. Thank you and namaste!
I agree with you but it’s cycles. In the late 80s through the late 90s, lyricism was required but when rap became a big genre it had to appeal to a pop audience from like 1999 to 2008, and when rap temporarily went outta of hyper popular state in the blog era the art became forefront, then 2016 and trap music came, and now we’re going into a lyrical era.
"Lyrical era" lil bro is blind this is the most nitrous era☠️ underground infested wit em ken carson roblox beats to keep the attention of tiktok brains☠️
I went from reaction to uploading my own music. It’s a process to teach yourself freestyle. I feel if you learn new words every day, realize only you can narrate your story, work on better ways of expressing how you feel, you should always have something to freestyle off of. You need to focus on what makes a good rapper. Focus on message, delivery, personal style. I feel some may have off the top rhyme skills but don’t have the full control over their creativity due to contracts. Another thing I’ve recently learned is you’ve gotta show, not tell.
@@Gerrrkkkkkk I already rap on modern production and I’m not rapping on veeze’s type of production I got my own thing going on , I go in different directions lyrically/sonically very often I’m dropping a new project soon 7 songs
I love the way Rakim and Big daddy kane wrote rhymes. They built the song. Verses matched the subject, verses brought in the hook, verses referenced each other building to a climax. You wanted to hear all 3 verses.
Jay-Z and Wayne ARE NOT the same! Jay-Z writes songs in his head, stuctured and everything.... A GIFT! Lil Wayne punches in over and over and over....NOT the same. 👌
i was born in 2006 and i love lyrical rappers. i always think about my favorites like the wu, busta, em, krs one, tech n9ne. and im like "damn most of these guys are from the 90s" and then im like "who can i think of that i like from the 2000s" and i can barely think of anyone. although i like people like hopsin, token, k.a.a.n. but theyre 2010s and not 2k. so its crazy to think jay and wayne almost solely caused a lyrical drought in the 2000s
I enjoy videos like these help me understand more and see how I can evolve my music and I understand the punch in pain as a Engineer/producer/rapper/etc
Lyrics died during the ringtone era where everyone just make catchy hooks and from them just went south. But I just kept listening to the underground cause hip hop isn’t hip hop with no lyrics
I always thought it was a bad idea to go into the booth without writing and rewriting lyrics before recording. Documenting the process of getting to the finished product is part of the fun. If anything it’s something people can look back on to show their thought process.
I'd say 1997 in particular is when Hip Hop kinda lost *that rawness and grittiness* this is when people like Diddy and Mase went mainstream and made Hip Hop more flashy with lyrics mostly about money and wealth, and it kinda stayed stagnant like that for over 2 decades, but nowadays we have alot more diversity in styles.
Bro if u want lyricism just listen to Griselda, roc Marciano, your old droog, Mach hommy, tha god fahim, crimeapple even rome streets all are lyricists and are currently dropping shit today
38 spesh and Benny confirmed the date for Stabbed and shot 2 and it has me so mfn hype dawg. Mainstream shit been dead but don’t get it twisted, Hip hop still alive in 2024 dawg 🙏🏼🙏🏼
When I produce an artist, if they can't one take their song I send them back home to do their homework and come back when they are prepared. I ain't got time and studio time money for an artist to be creating on the spot. If they can write fast ie under an hour, and can practice it to be able to one take or with two drops maximum in that time then I can work with that. Punch in artists usually take hours to do one song. Not around me they ain't.
Jay is not to blame,writing in your head and memorizing your bars is NOT the same as that “punch in” bullshit. If they were trying to emulate Jay and Wayne then the quality would be higher. Rappers today aren’t writing because they’re lazy. It’s not the same thing.
Been saying this for long time. Jay and Wayne fvkd the game up with not writing. Everybody thought they could do it... and it seems like every other rapper refused to hear the part where Jay said he had the rap written in his head... it was an off-the-top freestyle.
Nah lyrism for the underground musicians the new age music trash i explained that to my fans. I don't even know who is on the radio anymore. You got to write your lyrics down freestyling is cool, but how you going preform on stage, and remember the lyrics.
I write my songs I've punched in songs and some of them were good but I love the songs i wrote i like how the words look on the page and make me feels so accomplished that i used my brains and put these thoughts together
Some can but some can't and some just don't have the same motivations as other's. Like explain challenge Nas about poverty then Mos Def then Jay Z then Wayne then Kanye then Uzi then Yachty then Denzel then Dababy so on and so forth. 60% of them will be material based or criminal based, 20% can make actual songs on the point and the other 20% will repeat everything else they've ever rapped over A-Reece did once hurt my feelings as he is a lyricalist by optics of the rap game. The quality of the music well if you've listened each of these rappers you understand how much quality you can get from each it's different people different skills different styles.
I dont believe it. If youre spitting intricate complex bars, i dont believe you came with that on the spot. Even freestyles and battle rap, i believe most of it is prerehearsed or memorized lines that were at some point written down.
I'm not as impressed with the "I don't write" as others are. It's not a super power. It's actually not that much of a difference between writing and not writing. Whether you write or not, you're still putting a verse together. I used to rap and I would start verses and get stuck. So I made a rule that I couldn't pick up the pen and pad until I had enough of a verse to warrant writing it down. That eventually lead to me finishing whole verses in my head. I would still write it down just to have it documented. It's really not a flex.
i was saying this about lil wayne that he is one of the most influential rappers of all time in a bad way, but i never thought to extend this to jay-z, but it makes sense
Jay and Wayne “killed lyricism “ because they didn’t write?? Man STOP IT!! Just because they were great at what they do doesn’t mean everyone should follow suit
For all the people that want to do this learn how to rap first I spent years studying a lot of rappers learning how to actualy rap and use syllables I do this now but when I do people get blown away because it’s not common no one studies or puts much tears into there work to the point they fill like giving up from over working and experimenting I chose not to write because I’m slightly illiterate the goats came from a time where conscious rap was the competition so you had to learn the formula to get anywhere like he said stick to a subject and with a lot and I mean a lot of work and damn near wanting to give up you can make something that means something in one take but that’s just if you do it for sport and competition if your doing it for fun and don’t really care about the genre or growing idk what to tell you keep doing you
Big is the main one who started the free style write nothing down lyricist "NOT JAY Z" . Jay got that from big and that's why he frequently mentions him
Jayz is not part of the reason we don't write anymore, technological options is. The difference is Jayz writes in head and memorizes whole 16 bar sequences. These younger artist freestyle and punch in where they mess up. Big difference.
I strongly believe Jay and Wayne had ghost writers not saying the writers wrote 100% of their songs but a few lines maybe or a reference to make the songs
The majority of top selling Rap has never been lyrical. With that said, J. Cole, Eminem, and Kendrick Lamar are the only lyrical types in the current era that can move serious units.
You want real real real real lyricism? Someone who writes? Someone who brings it at all times? Check out a lyricist that goes by the name K-Rino. I implore you to! It is impossible for you to be disappointed if you label yourself a true hip hop fan. Don’t thank me, thank K-Rino. No likes required. Give them to him, he deserves it 💯
Biggie and Jay-Z actually cared about what they said though. Them not writing doesn’t mean other people should just come in and start spitting absolute nonsense. It’s like fast rapping. It’s not for everybody to try to do, but people think it’s cool and do it anyway, and it’s just sloppy.
It’s not necessarily wrong to not write, punching in/out isn’t bad per se . but you should be writing & practicing your craft in general & it’ll translate into your music.
Dope video. I see both sides though. I myself do connect with much of the newer rap being the old head that I am. But there is skill out there. I think the business of hip hop the biggest culprit. Not as much originality. It seems like whatever is hot at the moment, everything that comes out sounds like that. With that said, not mad at anyone trying to get to the paper. I just don’t think you have variety I grew up with. The 90s had Pac, BIG and Jay-Z but there was Vanilla Ice, and the Skee-lo’s of the world too. So not saying one was better than the other, to each his own. But the balance or variety is not what it was. My opinion though.
You don't have to grow up in the 90's to be a great rapper. It comes down to your intelligence going on that paper or threw the wire. A lot of people love to make music but don't have what it takes to be a good artist.
If you are not a rapper, you wouldn't understand. Years of writing & reciting teaches you how to freestyle "off the dome". After saying it over & over till it's memorized, you'll learn to remember bars, when you don't have pad at hand. Once you break that code, the sky is the limit!
Not writing isn't bad, at all. It's the artist themselves. Different sub genres of hip hop rap differently. Like take something like Trap and Conscious rap. Trap rappers like Jeezy and Gucci speak from the heart and soul of the streets. Conscious rappers like Kendrick Lamar and Joey badass pretty much speak on everything. Writing is really better when those lyrics have meaning and a story
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Both lil wayne, and Jay Z started off writing, and that's what most of the new guys haven't learned.
Exactly. They just stopped writing
There's people today who can write but why bother when Jay-Z and Wayne built the industry in a way where there's no place for lyrical rap and you can make more money rapping about bullshit? Don't hate the player, hate the game.
@@arvaakuka8568 This comment isn't for people trying to make money, this is for people who want to be the best rapper.
@@arvaakuka8568 who said we hate the “players” ? lol
@@DYC_music Oldheads have dedicated their lives to hating on new rap for the past twenty years lmao
Lyricism is still alive and thriving it's just that the stupidity gets more attention nowdays
@frequentiis Because thats the foundation of what rap is. Rap is a skill that consists of 4 things *Creativity, Rhythm, Wordplay and Lyricism* , which all add up to being able to play with words in a very intelligent and sophisticated fashion. Thats like asking why do singers still have to have a good voice?.............Because thats what makes a singer a singer.
By ignoring lyricism you are literally taking away of what it means to be a rapper which is evidently happening with todays rappers since the title is just thrown at everyone even though they don't fit the criteria. Rapper in today's society is more of a lifestyle and status than an actual artform with craft and talent.
@@godrules3596 You didn't answer his question he asked why you have to dig the internet to find rappers who are half decent lol? if you have to dig for something then by definition it’s not thriving and alive or it would be readily available
Facts I barley get any views but I got concepts to my songs and lyrics
@@CMJ_96 I'm not digging through the internet, I've heard their music and its influence and it's trash
Imo I think Nipsey had some lyricism. Even then Benny the Butcher and some other underground ones got it.
I remember the shift and it sucked.
Wayne & Jay never SOUNDED like they didn't write...then everyone started trying it and sounded like they NEED to write.
it's a very special skill that few actually possess like you said & I wish more emphasis was put on lyrics and not just making a song for the bragging rights of
"I don't write anything down..."
It boggles the mind how people fail to grasp this simple concept
Wayne definitely sounded like he didn't write. Jay sounded like he did.
Both of them have verses where you can tell they didn't write if you actually can write yourself
What Jay-Z stated he did would memorize his rhymes so....he could memorize bars probably 2 to 4 or 4 to 8 or 8 to 16 for hours before spitting everything out. Or he just memorize a whole song for that matter....Wayne just punches in every line
@@jameshamilton8720 that nxhga prolly dyslexic and tried to turn the shit to A flex lol
And the difference is Biggie and JayZ would remember the entire song hook and verses then record it that's what separates them and everybody else who punches in
Thats a very common thing to be honest bro. Its been that way. Jay wasnt the first to do it and he only mentioned it to sway but many people do it n wasnt even thinkin bout J
@@doyadirty3804nah he right
@@Rizexthegoatnah Doyas right. Studio time was expensive so you better have everything memorized so you can just crank it out fast (pause)
Nonsense
Biggie said himself that he wrote all his rhymes in a radio interview in Cali not too long before he was offed.
That headstone in the thumbnail is bogus ASF. Lyricism never died, it's still around to this day. It's just not being pushed to the mainstream. You have to dig to find it. These youngstas only want bullshyt mumble rap so that's what the radio and media push. But there's still lots of Lyricist around. Kendrick, j Cole, and Lupe the first ones come to mind.
@frequentiis in the early 2010s lyricism came back for a while.
Kendrick Cole and Lupe have been around for over 10+ years they are veterans at this point this is mainly speaking for the new gen not them
most Lyrical rappers just can’t make good music
Cap @@wnuZeLLionaire
You got clickbaited
They actually had great skill at not having to write but that's definitely not the majority. They didn't kill lyricism, laziness, complacency and brain dead rappers did.
Fans too. The market for dumbed down music is bigger than the market for lyricism
@@ContextReallyMatters Unfortunate but true.
Always been like this
this a crazy sequence of events😂 but it makes sense, when shit gets easier to do, the barrier to entry gets lower & more wack ppl get to sneak in
It’s like rapping fast, it’s cute at first but after awhile it wears off. Just because you can freestyle your shit doesn’t make it great, it’s hard to rap cohesive verses when you’re going off the top. I like quality content not just rapping to rhyme with no substance
Rappers are not good enough to punch in. Getcho ass back in that booth and write your raps.
I just recently been able to freestyle off the top but i still take the pen and pad into the booth. it just feels the right way to do it. i respect and honor this craft.
The lox vs dipset vs I think was evidence that practice (whether written or freestyle) is essential in any generation. Dipset I feel had so many well known songs but the performance is so much more electrifying when the group is together and rehearsed.
Indeed🎉
Now they’re going to blame Jay Z for actually being good at remembering song formats because non-talented people try to copy
It's Brooklyn baby 😅
Jay sucks.
Right! Smh
There's a huge difference between going in the booth & spitting anything & creating a song in your head without writing it down.
I feel like people needa start seeing their raps as ART. Rap and Music period is ART. Art is subjective meaning theres no written right way to make it. Theres nun wrong with using a pen and paper to write yo shit instead of forcing yoself to freestyle. Theres nun wrong with any of it long as u making ART
I think if we start thinking about it this way, the natural progression is that the standard gets raised, the fanbase gets smarter, and the music gets better.
@@leahdubskushlyfeunfortunately most people dont see it that way and just want the fast way to the end results
@@leahdubskushlyfethe sad truth is if you dont elevate the culture, nothing will change. A philosopher is a fool to an idiotic culture, a virtuous man is evil to a degenerate society, nothing will change until the culture is elevated.
The individual is always trapped within the expectations of the masses, its a depressing truth, but until the consciousness of the masses are elevated, nothing will change.
First we gotta start seeing RAP as MUSIC and NOT POETRY
@@smelly1060Rap literally means "Rythym and Poetry", essentially the perfect mix between top tier lyricism and hard music
What’s crazy is you can still punch in with a written a lot of rappers who use the punch in method aren’t even dope off the top so it’s not as natural when they do it because they never practiced that
These dudes punch in and forget to breathe, so if they perform they run out of breath too.
It’s hilarious because everyone isn’t writing. But then when you ask them to actually freestyle they spit something they already made
A freestyle is when a rapper doesn't have specific topic, just bars.
Somewhere down the line causal fans created their own definition.
Nowadays rappers don't understand song structure, so you could consider their regular songs freestyles.
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 I respectfully disagree with the sentiment that “casual fans” created a definition. I come from the out the trunk mixtape era. Freestyling has ALWAYS been about rapping off the top. And respectfully hip hop is all I know I’m far from a “casual” fan
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 and song structure In hip hop is irrelevant when the genre was built off breaking the mold of a “structured song” that’s kinda the problem now. Instead of hip hop being the culture we got college classes teaching you how to do something you supposed to be born in too
@@Deontelewis846 Maybe if you are talking about battle rap, but most rap songs have hooks, and the verses are 16 bars, that is at bare minimum structure
Yeeh😮
Jay-Z did NOT give us Kanye West. Dame Dash did that. thats the problem with him & his fans. yall give him credit that isnt his & he goes along with ..
Okey now go tell it to your kids also
Didn't jay just want his beats
Bringing us Kanye is not a flex
NO! Dame signed Kanye just for his beats and let him THINK he was gonna rap to keep his beats in house on some shady sh*t! Jay-Z believed in Kanye as a creator and let him put his 1st verse on Jay-Z's album. 👌
@@Caligula202preach!!!!
Aesop Rock is alive and actively releasing music
Lyricism is alive and well as long as Bazzoka Tooth is around
Damon dash gave us Kanye west not jay
They both did.
@@NYCHeavyHitz212 no they didn’t
@@jfraz1992 Ye literally has a whole song dedicated to Jay. Jay helped put Ye on.
@@NYCHeavyHitz212 no jay didn’t even wanna sign ye it’s dame who pushed for him
This current era rode in on the back of Lil Wayne...
0 barrier to entry has hurt the industry
First of all you are so funny, I loved this video and found your narrative entertaining. I put a lot of responsibility on the listeners. I think we have a culture of critiquing which is useful but not always productive. If we start putting our attention on music that's meaningful and hard to reproduce, we can shift the standard of rap music. Big fan of this video I will be checking out more. Thank you and namaste!
, etc statemnt wll said , hm-
The thing is most people listen to rap as entertainment, they don't care about the craft, so yeah.
I agree with you but it’s cycles. In the late 80s through the late 90s, lyricism was required but when rap became a big genre it had to appeal to a pop audience from like 1999 to 2008, and when rap temporarily went outta of hyper popular state in the blog era the art became forefront, then 2016 and trap music came, and now we’re going into a lyrical era.
Imma be one of those modern lyricist in this era
"Lyrical era" lil bro is blind this is the most nitrous era☠️ underground infested wit em ken carson roblox beats to keep the attention of tiktok brains☠️
@@cggc5871 those guys are big but not nearly as big as anyone who can actually sustain the genre. They’re likely to stay in the position they’re in.
@@cggc5871 nice way to over simplify a genre you’ve clearly never took ur time to listen to🤥
Here’s ur cookie for being cooler den all of us🍪
@@kkrezagang4606 same old box y’all tried to put uzi in 2016 how did dat turn out for ya?😂
Really trynna be on the wrong side of history again?
I went from reaction to uploading my own music. It’s a process to teach yourself freestyle. I feel if you learn new words every day, realize only you can narrate your story, work on better ways of expressing how you feel, you should always have something to freestyle off of. You need to focus on what makes a good rapper. Focus on message, delivery, personal style. I feel some may have off the top rhyme skills but don’t have the full control over their creativity due to contracts. Another thing I’ve recently learned is you’ve gotta show, not tell.
I still write my lyrics down
@@JusNBL2000 das why yo songs ain’t popping off😭
@@Gerrrkkkkkk I been on the radio multiple times already and have had critics give me praise I’m doing very good
@@JusNBL2000 naw, smoke a fat one and start flowing on dem Veeze type beats trust me you’ll go even further🤞🏾
@@Gerrrkkkkkk I already rap on modern production and I’m not rapping on veeze’s type of production I got my own thing going on , I go in different directions lyrically/sonically very often I’m dropping a new project soon 7 songs
@@Gerrrkkkkkk & I quit smoking 2 years ago my music has gotten way better since I quit smoking
I love the way Rakim and Big daddy kane wrote rhymes. They built the song. Verses matched the subject, verses brought in the hook, verses referenced each other building to a climax. You wanted to hear all 3 verses.
Jay-Z and Wayne ARE NOT the same! Jay-Z writes songs in his head, stuctured and everything.... A GIFT!
Lil Wayne punches in over and over and over....NOT the same. 👌
i was born in 2006 and i love lyrical rappers. i always think about my favorites like the wu, busta, em, krs one, tech n9ne. and im like "damn most of these guys are from the 90s" and then im like "who can i think of that i like from the 2000s" and i can barely think of anyone. although i like people like hopsin, token, k.a.a.n. but theyre 2010s and not 2k. so its crazy to think jay and wayne almost solely caused a lyrical drought in the 2000s
I enjoy videos like these help me understand more and see how I can evolve my music and I understand the punch in pain as a Engineer/producer/rapper/etc
Jay Z wrote down his raps for over a decade before he decided to not write them down
Every rapper on "Swagga Like Us" ushered in the "no pen, no pad" era. TI decided to stop writing after I'm Serious up until Paper Trail.
It’s still writing going on,it’s called Ghost writing 😂
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Facts
Lyrics died during the ringtone era where everyone just make catchy hooks and from them just went south. But I just kept listening to the underground cause hip hop isn’t hip hop with no lyrics
I always thought it was a bad idea to go into the booth without writing and rewriting lyrics before recording. Documenting the process of getting to the finished product is part of the fun. If anything it’s something people can look back on to show their thought process.
I'd say 1997 in particular is when Hip Hop kinda lost *that rawness and grittiness* this is when people like Diddy and Mase went mainstream and made Hip Hop more flashy with lyrics mostly about money and wealth, and it kinda stayed stagnant like that for over 2 decades, but nowadays we have alot more diversity in styles.
Good video... love the editing style too
Bro if u want lyricism just listen to Griselda, roc Marciano, your old droog, Mach hommy, tha god fahim, crimeapple even rome streets all are lyricists and are currently dropping shit today
38 spesh and Benny confirmed the date for Stabbed and shot 2 and it has me so mfn hype dawg. Mainstream shit been dead but don’t get it twisted, Hip hop still alive in 2024 dawg 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Don’t forget my dude Ransom
Jay used to write pretty good stuff. He wasn't just phoning it in.
If you listen to the song "Lyrical Exercise". Jay-Z in the intro explain his whole writing process.
When I produce an artist, if they can't one take their song I send them back home to do their homework and come back when they are prepared. I ain't got time and studio time money for an artist to be creating on the spot. If they can write fast ie under an hour, and can practice it to be able to one take or with two drops maximum in that time then I can work with that. Punch in artists usually take hours to do one song. Not around me they ain't.
You obviously value your time
Writing trains the mind in the thought patterns that lets someone freestyle well in the first place.
Correction:
No one "Killed lyricism"
Just because many people chose to dumb down their lyrics it doesn't represent everyone.
Westside gunn said that he doesn’t start to come up with anything until he hears the beat first
im about to make a rebuttal to this so you know lmaooo
@@icongotyou1408 please do😂 and tag me. I might rebuttal ya rebuttal
I’m actually so hyped lmao pls do
Its out now 30 min ago @WhosAux
I dont think your rebuttal will hold much weight.
@@PFOD1008😂😂 ayooo the disrespect
Yo that beat in the background tough
If I was giving the opportunity I swear I’ll create an amazing albums 🤫
Jay is not to blame,writing in your head and memorizing your bars is NOT the same as that “punch in” bullshit. If they were trying to emulate Jay and Wayne then the quality would be higher. Rappers today aren’t writing because they’re lazy. It’s not the same thing.
Golden era emcees practiced so much and performed so much they had the song down pat before they looked at a studio.
Been saying this for long time. Jay and Wayne fvkd the game up with not writing. Everybody thought they could do it... and it seems like every other rapper refused to hear the part where Jay said he had the rap written in his head... it was an off-the-top freestyle.
PS-you always have fantastic content & I hope you go far with your videos
Thanks bro, thats the plan, just tryna have fun & stay consistent
@@WhosAuxplease do more videos like diss about hip hop 🔥🔥🔥
I’m always gonna write ✍🏿
Great title have not finished the video but u grabbed me off that alone good sht
Nah lyrism for the underground musicians the new age music trash i explained that to my fans. I don't even know who is on the radio anymore. You got to write your lyrics down freestyling is cool, but how you going preform on stage, and remember the lyrics.
I write my songs I've punched in songs and some of them were good but I love the songs i wrote i like how the words look on the page and make me feels so accomplished that i used my brains and put these thoughts together
wild to think lupe was thriving in this era
You are Right
Music is still good. Dont limit yourself with old memories.
Some can but some can't and some just don't have the same motivations as other's. Like explain challenge Nas about poverty then Mos Def then Jay Z then Wayne then Kanye then Uzi then Yachty then Denzel then Dababy so on and so forth. 60% of them will be material based or criminal based, 20% can make actual songs on the point and the other 20% will repeat everything else they've ever rapped over A-Reece did once hurt my feelings as he is a lyricalist by optics of the rap game. The quality of the music well if you've listened each of these rappers you understand how much quality you can get from each it's different people different skills different styles.
I think many rappers lie about not writing their rhymes with pen and paper, and claim to keep it all in their head.
I dont believe it. If youre spitting intricate complex bars, i dont believe you came with that on the spot. Even freestyles and battle rap, i believe most of it is prerehearsed or memorized lines that were at some point written down.
I'm not as impressed with the "I don't write" as others are. It's not a super power. It's actually not that much of a difference between writing and not writing. Whether you write or not, you're still putting a verse together. I used to rap and I would start verses and get stuck. So I made a rule that I couldn't pick up the pen and pad until I had enough of a verse to warrant writing it down. That eventually lead to me finishing whole verses in my head. I would still write it down just to have it documented. It's really not a flex.
That interview with Sway was in 03 leading up to the Black album
to me lil Wayne sounds like he doesn't write he's lyrics down because a lot of his songs don't make sense to me
He's still peak and goated
Dame dash gave us Kanye West
@@derekwatson7997 true, business end, but only 1 man was big bro 😂
@@WhosAux lol it’s more Kanye choosing to go w the person who could help him out the most after the rocafella break up.. which was jigga
This is a great video
i was saying this about lil wayne that he is one of the most influential rappers of all time in a bad way, but i never thought to extend this to jay-z, but it makes sense
But jay z did go in prepared knowing what he wanted to say, he just wrote it in his head
Before anything is written down, you said it already
Lyricism never died dude
It dropped this RUclips man made for entertainment things are exaggerated but still whole truth
He says this in the video bruh 🤦🏽♂️
It's not dead but has been weakened a lot due to the punch in & freestyle tactics of new era hip-hop
Lyrics won't matter again until a new lyrical New York artist achieves mainstream success.
You spoke facts!
They call it punching in
link to the beat in the background?
Jayz and lil Wayne also had a gang of writers around them … yall think they don’t biggie the only one
Crooked I doesn't use a pen and pad and he's more lyrical and complex than everyone! 💯
Jay and Wayne “killed lyricism “ because they didn’t write?? Man STOP IT!! Just because they were great at what they do doesn’t mean everyone should follow suit
They did cuz others thought they could do it and made it seem like they too cool for it. Its advocacy to careless
@@ghettogov6161 They share accountability for following.
@@ghettogov6161jay and wayne mastered it and used it to their best ability
Jayz and wayne was writing whole 16 bar sequences in their head and reciting it. These new artist are just freestyling basic bars and punching in
Mentally speaking, you are what you eat. You were poisoned from the bosses above hip hops color line. Lyricism didn't die. It was killed.
For all the people that want to do this learn how to rap first I spent years studying a lot of rappers learning how to actualy rap and use syllables I do this now but when I do people get blown away because it’s not common no one studies or puts much tears into there work to the point they fill like giving up from over working and experimenting I chose not to write because I’m slightly illiterate the goats came from a time where conscious rap was the competition so you had to learn the formula to get anywhere like he said stick to a subject and with a lot and I mean a lot of work and damn near wanting to give up you can make something that means something in one take but that’s just if you do it for sport and competition if your doing it for fun and don’t really care about the genre or growing idk what to tell you keep doing you
Big is the main one who started the free style write nothing down lyricist "NOT JAY Z" . Jay got that from big and that's why he frequently mentions him
Dr.Dre was the first hiphop billionaire but I personally don’t believe him or Dre were ever billionaires.
wow, U are a Music engineer?? nice
Jayz is not part of the reason we don't write anymore, technological options is. The difference is Jayz writes in head and memorizes whole 16 bar sequences. These younger artist freestyle and punch in where they mess up. Big difference.
I strongly believe Jay and Wayne had ghost writers not saying the writers wrote 100% of their songs but a few lines maybe or a reference to make the songs
The majority of top selling Rap has never been lyrical. With that said, J. Cole, Eminem, and Kendrick Lamar are the only lyrical types in the current era that can move serious units.
I would say stuff like the Yin Yang Twins, D4L and that dirty south strip club rap really killed lyricism
You want real real real real lyricism? Someone who writes? Someone who brings it at all times? Check out a lyricist that goes by the name K-Rino. I implore you to! It is impossible for you to be disappointed if you label yourself a true hip hop fan. Don’t thank me, thank K-Rino. No likes required. Give them to him, he deserves it 💯
Biggie used to just drop too.
Biggie and Jay-Z actually cared about what they said though. Them not writing doesn’t mean other people should just come in and start spitting absolute nonsense. It’s like fast rapping. It’s not for everybody to try to do, but people think it’s cool and do it anyway, and it’s just sloppy.
It’s not necessarily wrong to not write, punching in/out isn’t bad per se . but you should be writing & practicing your craft in general & it’ll translate into your music.
The golden age of ghost writers
Dope video. I see both sides though. I myself do connect with much of the newer rap being the old head that I am. But there is skill out there. I think the business of hip hop the biggest culprit. Not as much originality. It seems like whatever is hot at the moment, everything that comes out sounds like that. With that said, not mad at anyone trying to get to the paper. I just don’t think you have variety I grew up with. The 90s had Pac, BIG and Jay-Z but there was Vanilla Ice, and the Skee-lo’s of the world too. So not saying one was better than the other, to each his own. But the balance or variety is not what it was. My opinion though.
You don't have to grow up in the 90's to be a great rapper. It comes down to your intelligence going on that paper or threw the wire. A lot of people love to make music but don't have what it takes to be a good artist.
Y'all forget Notorious B.I.G but Bigs was on his own level
If you are not a rapper, you wouldn't understand. Years of writing & reciting teaches you how to freestyle "off the dome". After saying it over & over till it's memorized, you'll learn to remember bars, when you don't have pad at hand. Once you break that code, the sky is the limit!
King Nas book of rhymes.
Lol thanks for making this video
Not writing isn't bad, at all. It's the artist themselves. Different sub genres of hip hop rap differently. Like take something like Trap and Conscious rap. Trap rappers like Jeezy and Gucci speak from the heart and soul of the streets. Conscious rappers like Kendrick Lamar and Joey badass pretty much speak on everything. Writing is really better when those lyrics have meaning and a story
If you listen to the current state of hip-hop, 99.9 % of the artist should be writing their lyrics !! 🎤
Plenty rappers still write rhymes. They are just unappreciated
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