SLOW CONE WEAVE slalom - correct way & mistakes
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- This video shows some common mistakes which new riders tend to make during the slow cone weave (slalom) exercise.
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A little info about me. My name is Andrei Bodrov, originally I'm from Moscow, Russia, and now I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Back in Moscow I was a motorcycle instructor and creator of Moto Control Beginner & Advanced motorcycle rider courses, which quickly became the most popular courses in Moscow (well, at least the advanced one😁). My advanced training course makes emphasis on slow speed riding techniques at first (such as good clutch and throttle control, proper riding posture, proper use of vision, etc.), then proceeds to more advanced techniques (such as aggressive braking, trail braking, maximal lean angle). The course incorporates a lot of exercises from DOSAF slow speed riding (similar to police rodeo like motorcycle training in USA), braking and cornering exercises and motogymkhana style riding. And now, since I actively learn English - I decided to post some useful videos for both your and mine practice!😉
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Since everyone writes this, it's necessary, I suppose 🤷, so here we go. Disclaimer: Ride at your own risk, you are responsible for your own safety. Me, Andrey Bodrov and my channel, Moto Control disclaim any liability incurred in connection with the use of riding techniques from this channel. Use common sense, wear full protective gear and ride in a safe and predictable manner! 
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I'm currently going through bike test and I've been struggling with the cone weave ,watching your video I'm may be taught differently from you because I'm riding like you do on joke rides ,I'm shifting body weight but in your video you don't and it looks so much smoother thanks regards julz
The simplest explanation for counter steering is: "push right to go right and push left to go left."
Another excellent instructional, Andrey - thank you! Before every ride, no matter how long or far, I practice four exercises, in order, for 15-20 minutes: Slow Speed "Race," Slow Cone Weave, U-Turns, and Figure 8s. I find these help me to limber up, get the feel for how I'm doing that day, what I need to work on, and relax my mind and body. Then, after my ride, I work on whatever exercises (of those four) I was weakest on before the ride.
Your videos are so great because you're succinct and there's no B.S. or fluff. You share your knowledge willingly, and I'm thankful for your channel. ✌🤘
That's very good practice, it's very wise of you!
About to go practice this tomorrow 🙏🏻.
The way I was told by instructors or experienced drivers, was to physically turn the handlebars and trying to do that I kept failing or hitting a cone. So I wasn’t using the counter steering method which now makes wayyyy more sense to me 😂
I ve done this exercise numerous times and yet your explanation and demonstration showed me exactly what I should be focusing upon to get more out of a simingly
This is it! This is that weird feeling like I'm fighting against the bike! Thanks!
OMG! This is one of the best video on how to turn or get control of a bike(especially heavy bike) for a beginner. The mistakes that are mentioned are exactly what I had done. After following what he said and keen observation on how his hands push the bike and how he leans. It solved my problem. Now i'm riding a royal Enfield thunderbird with a firm control over it. I thank u so much sir
Apart from being 100% quality easy to follow and to remember, motor bike riding lessons, I love the Russian accent, specially when you speak Italian, thanks buddy.
Thanks for the pointers. You showed me how to improve in what I took to be a seemingly “simple” exercise.
Great explanation and demonstrations. Looking forward to the next tutorial.👍🏽✌🏽
I think this is the safest way to enjoy big cuiser bike... amazing
Beautiful video. Congratulations. I will try this on today's course . Thanks for the advice!!!
Thank you for useful video, especially for the part about mistakes.
Thank you! This is a perfect illustration on how to ride between cones using counter steering. I can’t wait to try this.
Fantastic channel by the way really good tips and thank you for taking the time to do this for free...Much respect from London x
Great cone weave instructions, thank you!
Nicely done! Really good info.
Thank you so much❤
Perfect video! This helps me a lot. Well explained, well demonstrated. I also appreciate how you break down the process into significant distinct steps. Now i can locate which steps im lacking in and address appropriately. The explanation on how excessive steering into the turn while countersteering leads to countersteering to the opposite way really cleared up the fog in my mind. Truly thanks a lot, your videos helped me out tremendously on multiple occasions.
Concise and precise. I have watched and followed many videos on RUclips, yours is the most understood despite your thick Russian accent.
Cheers from Malaysia.
You are excellent dear friend! Everything seems to make sense, ! We want more 👍
Another excellent video Andrey. Thank you. I hope everything is going well for you in Argentina. It's an amaaaazing place.
Sure it is!
great! thanks ! I,m realy experiencing difficulties in this excercise. I have to do my examing in coming januari, so much to be learned from you. I,ll keep on trying; I realy have to loosen up on the bike; that's the key!
I like this video. I like it a lot.
Excellent
nice instruction - especially the "mistakes" part. Subtitling would help, i could not understand everything / some terminology.
Counter steering understanding also has evolved for me through time, first I thought countersteering only comes into effect above a certain speed, on a motorcycle, then I found out you can countersteer at any speed, but I though at slower speed you must do it differently, by just giving the bike a short little push and release push pressure quickly, now I just countersteer any bike any bicycle at any speed the same way basically, I steer a lightweight bycicle to the right as much or as little as I want, with just a little subtitle pressure with one finger, I can even not look at where im goin, look in the opposit direction , body position does not even matter, much the little subtle pressure, steers any bike at any speed, wanna steer more, just a little more pressure no problem, after a while it just somewhere in your consistence, to turn left you steer to the right, all those years in your life you had a misconception about steering, you though when I steer left you turnthe steering wheel to the left, but you never did, ever since you were a kid and you rode on a bicycle you have been countersteering without knowing it.
Now that I know what to look for, I see a 14 year old kid on a bicycle coming towards me, and i'm on bicycle also, he is in my lane, about to crash into me, not paying attention to the road ahead because he is on his phone riding without hands on the steering wheel, he notices me a bit late, his hands go to the handle bars, I see his front wheel turning towards me, the bicycle leans away from me and the front wheel turns away from me , he just did an evasive manoeuvre, with pretty hard counter steering, but he has no clue what he is doing.
Cool, first time I ever heard a reference to Occam's razor in a motorcycle training video!
I will be doing this soon for my motorcycle lesson, it will be part of the test to get the license and I hope I can master it when I start, I’m just afraid of falling a lot
Great video ,in my country we don't have motorcycle courses,I practice every day 15-20min and learn a lot from your video's,I have one question,how much distance do you put between cones , because is look much further when I get A license..thank you for your time.. keep a good work👍👍👍
Thanks
I love your russian inflections when you speak english, theyäre so charming :-) great vid as always, oldie but goldie
Failed my road test, cracked under the pressure, couldn't stop stressing , overthinking everything. What a mess.
it’s okay. i was ready to take the test and hit asphalt during the practice before. my anxiety wouldn’t let me take the test and i felt like a quitter. practice and you’ll get it next time
any advice to do this on a sportsbike?
I understand the countersteering at the begining of slalom, when you approach the first cone. But how do you do this maneuver in the middle of slalom?
I am a beginner and need to master this technique, but I am having a hard time understanding about counter steering. Can you help me understand what you mean and what exactly I should be doing and how to counter steer?
How far apart are the cones
How far are the cones set apart?
In this exercise what speed should i maintain?
How fare are the cones apart
That's true. The "turning into the lean" after countersteering is simply the bike taking time to lean because of slower speeds. Do too much and it will countersteer the other way.
Hi there thanks for your video mate…. I’m riding on the track-roads parking on my pit bike ect ectknow all possible videos on YT ….. but I still have big problem with my vision when I’m on the track…. Did you recommended any exercise on Parking to help me with this please…
Hi! Actually yes, I have! It won't resolve the vision completely, but it can help with target fixation. Build yourself a circle roughly 40-50ft in diameter. Use big cones (at least 20cm). Enter the circle and start slowly increasing your speed and lean angle. Keep your vision up, look across the circle and use your main vision to look at distant things. Watch for your line with peripheral vision and try not to look at cones at all. As you increase your speed it's getting more and more difficult.
@@MotoControlEn Oo yes toll cones that’s I think main case Let my try this with them many thanks again Will let you know what they do for me thanks… is any way to contact you outside YT….
Almost every motorcycle instructor explicitly instruct us to use handlebar steering only at slow speed which this exercise is and they suggest against using counter steering at speed less than 20 mph slow cone weave and only use counter steering in fast cone weave with speed higher than 15 - 20 mph. I am confused so wanted to try your approach at 8 mph in the slow cone weave exercise but I have doubt I can use counter steering to pass through cones 9 ft apart with a bagger
Whats is the distance between cones ?
Bro they had the cones closer together than what you have here and I almost didn't make it through. How far are the cones supposed to be apart?
Sir is your 390 2018 model?
Thank you for the video.
2017
How far apart are your cones?
What distance should you set the cones apart?
12 feet
How do you flip to the other side with countersteering if the handlebars are at full lock?
You don't! You lock the handlebars and release the clutch a little. As bike accelerates, the handlebars should become more straight, but because you are keeping them at full lock - you essentially get the same countersteering effect.
@@MotoControlEn Hi, at which point would you release the clutch a little? When the front wheel is in the middle between cones? Thanks, all the best!
How do you counter steer to the left if your handlebar is already in full lock to the right?
thats a good one. Accelerate and bike will straighten itself, then push the left handlebar an you go left.
i've got my driving license test for 8 feet gapped same like this
I'm really struggling with this exercise
This technique is feasible without the clutch? Can be done only with the throttle? Or it's too difficult without clutch?
Yes, you can do it without the clutch, especially on smaller engine bikes it's usually not a problem. However, on bigger motorcycles it becomes more and more difficult without it!
Oh man I need to get drilling
Hi Andrei, what’s the distance between the cones ?
Depends on the bike: for a short motorcycle like KTM 390 it would be 10-11ft, for Harleys/BMWs 12ft, for Goldwings 13-14ft.
Can you tell us what is the motorbike's brand and model? (The cruiser).
I wonder why no answer. I think its kawasaki vulcan.
How is the gap between two cones?
12ft, but you can make it bigger or smaller, depending on your bike. Usually between 10ft and 14ft.
I don't care what people call it, you just do it and lean the bike....Through she goes !
Counter steering is strange, I know it works. I'm just not sure about the wheel turning the other direction by itself. if you try to make a left u turn, how come you don't wind up turning right.
Can I do it on opened clutch only?
Depends on your bike and your speed. Generally, the bigger the bike and slower you go - the harder it will be without a clutch. On smaller bikes and if you go a bit faster - you can usually do the weave on fully released clutch no problem.
@@MotoControlEn I study on yamaha mt125 and kawasaki something 650~ they both go 12-13 kph on released clutch no problem. Small weave is my final dragon. :D
Thank you for lightning fast reply!
So I just figured that my instuctor told me wrong technique, he told me to lean with the bike. Which is exacly why i cant turn so quickly and hit cones.
I'm scared to fall while counter steering 💙❤️
Do you have 3 meters distance between the cones?
For Vulcan - 3.5 meters
@@MotoControlEn Thank you :) In Switzerland we need to pass exam with 3 meters distance. I have GSA 850. Do you recommend the same method?
Andrey, off topic i know but is the current Ukraine situation the reason you moved from mother Russia? what are your thoughts? The west is told most Russians are unaware of what is going on after being lied to by state television, just wondered as someone I respect what your thoughts are?
You ever read George Orwell's 1984? That's so much accurate to what happens in Russia right now. People mostly are braindead zombie, completely owned by propaganda TV. They think (I'm not kidding, it's what literally been told by our "authorities") that the whole world wants to conquer Russia, that Ukrainians created covid as a virus weapon designed specifically against russians, that Zelensky is drug-addicted nazi who creates a nuclear weapons to destroy Moscow. You can't call war in Ukraine "war" - it's "special military operation". You can't protest it - "you are creating a bad image for russian army". You can't spread the truth about it - "you are spreading fake information". And the worst part is that people actually fall for this shit. Vast majority of people are brainwashed completely. So fuck yeah, I can't live there anymore, I had to leave.
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@@MotoControlEn "Propaganda TV" has been affectively brainwashing the masses since the days of Rameses II; he covered the walls of Karnak, bragging about his exploits in Sinai and Canaan. Anyone who was alive in the 1950s and 60s will recall the endless propaganda from European and USAmerican press about the "imminent" Soviet nuclear attacks. If people think that counter steering is a challenge, they should try to find a nation that has NOT used propaganda to its advantage.
@@Ramon51650 Sure! But when they start to imprison, poison or shoot anyone who doesn't agree - it's a bit too much, for my taste:)
@@MotoControlEn You are absolutely correct!!
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How far apart are the cones?
That depends on the bike, usually it's 12ft
Thanks for asking the distance, I was wondering as well. Lol