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It's REALLY worth mentioning that this method is ONLY safe for flat wall mounts. These types of toggles are rated based on sheer weight only. Swivel mounts or full motion mounts create a LOT of torque weight and the drywall is very likely to fail!
When mounting using snap toggles, I think it's always best to offset the bolts mounting position, this will spread the mounted weight over more surface area, resulting in less drywall failure rates.
I wasn’t even looking for this video but I’m glad it started playing, I like how you were very specific on giving directions and giving examples as well, great job 👍🏽
Thanx my man. Never knew strap toggles were a thing. And considering I don't believe there are studs , this will help a great deal. Thanx for using your time to benefit others. God bless.
Thanks man, you just save the day for me. Had all sorts of trouble making so many holes and was worried i almost hit a pipe. The the funny thing is I saw these parts in Home Depot but did not realize I needed them.
This positioning method assumes the mounting holes of the bracket align with center of the tv when mounting bracket is attached. This is not the case with all wall mounts but sure is easy with this one.
I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out but the toggles work best if the are vertical and not horizontal. Placing them horizontally will not provide the full holding power they advertise.
The intent of the strap toggles would still be valid to hold weight, though a floating ountertop would be a fairly heavy and extended load. Would probably only try it if the countertop had a triangular support frame to the wall. Worth a test try for sure
@@EngineeredMojo Worst part is it's already hung into studs, she doesn't like where it is. Moving it 8" to the left and 4 inches down. Welcome to being married lol.
My son just got a home in a trailer park will this work on that type of wall as well ? Is there a minimum thickness on the drywall? I think it is thinner than in a regular home thanks for the info
I'm not sure about those type walls. Typically they are thinner gypsum or even a plastic panel material. You could always try a test area, that's what I would do
Hello there I just got a 70inch Samsung tv and a full range motion wall mount that I wanted to mount him a tv that has no wall studs. What size strap toggle do I use.? Thank you for your time
The size toggle would depend on your tv weight. TV weight can be found typically on the box or quick online search of tv model #. Then do a proper assessment of your wall integrity and mount integrity for its ability to hold the tv weight. Good luck with installation!
Thanks! I’m planning to mount a 75”, I only have studs on the right side. It weighs 70lbs Mantle mount 540 weighs 29 lbs My contractor was nervous about helping me install it….
With toggle bolts...I'm using a mount that lets the tv extend out just over 2' from the wall. Sure right against the wall the toggle bolt does hold the prescribed weight. Put a 65" tv, plus a 20 lb mount, extended out 2'... Would be 70+ lbs at 2' - multiples more than 70lbs on the toggle. I know certainly not everyone's set up, but just saying for people to keep in mind if they picked up a mount that lets you extend the tv out from the wall, there is a lot more force than you may think.
That's a good point for folks to remember! Definitely adding a wood backer board in the uo down direction with toggle mounts could take some of the additional torque out of the wall
How do we know if the mounting bolts that come with the TV hardware will thread in to the toggle bolt? I mean, would if the bolts are metric and the toggle threads are standard?
The strap toggle comes with it's own mounting bolt hardware rated for its strength. You do not use the lag bolts from the bracket mount kit. The other bolts from the TV to the bracket have no interaction with the strap toggle at all, don't confuse the two.
Would this be safe for a flat mount that has the slight angle adjusting ability? Where you can have the tv angled a little higher or lower however you’re laying in bed? Not planning on adjusting over and over but wanted to see if that makes it sketchy? Looking to do this on a 40” tv. Planning on being like 50lbs in total with mount and tv.
Was hoping to find your brand of strap toggles on amazon because I literally shop on there for everything and it comes fast lol but I don’t see them😔 I did find a different brand but idk if they’ll work as good as yours did!
I recently looked for them as well and couldn't find them in same variation. I found the brand at Home Depot, but they changed them slightly. Still worked good though. I'm sure with same careful steps, most brands will work well
I would give it a try, plasterboard and drywall are similar with plasterboard just being a base for plaster and given plasterboard is thicker and stiffer than drywall. Numerous strap toggle manufacturers even list plasterboard as a viable mounting surface. I would just verify the strap toggle is long enough for the set in the deeper wall. Hope that helps!
Sure will, just need to make sure the tv and mount weight is below the strap toggle weight limit. I have multiple televisions in my house mounted with strap toggles with the largest being 55 inch. I've seen up to 75 inch mounted with a correctly sized strap toggle!
No problem, hope the video was helpful! The same principles should apply I would think. As long as the weight placed on the strap toggle is less than it's capacity and installed correctly it should be fine.
The weight limit is stated right on the package. There are different size toggles, bigger the toggle, more weight it can hold. Typically with light weight modern TVs and the weight divided by 4 toggles, you'd have many options to choose from. For bigger TVs, I'd be sure to get a mount that isn't articulated i.e. allowing tv to extend far away from wall. Your standard mount with tilt action works well with toggles from my experience. I've seen 85" TVs mounted at department stores in this fashion, no problem.
I was planning on putting up a speed bag (weights about 65lbs) do you think I could do it using a few of these snap toggles cause where I want to hang it there is no stud
For a speed bag, it might be tough getting these to work using the stock speed bag mounting locations. You'd have 65lbs plus the increase in weight from the momentum of hitting the bag which could factor the bag weight multiple times. If it were me, I'd do a trial attachment with the strongest strap toggles I could find by weight capacity. I'm sure the toggles rating have a factor of safety that greatly underestimates their true capacity. If it works great, if it doesn't then I would modify the connection by attaching the speed bag first to a 2x or 3x timber board using lag screws then have the timber board be wide enough to space the toggle brackets apart further than the stock mounting locations and attach to the wall. Spreading the toggles apart decreases the tension demand on an individual toggle (this is using statics, moment couple, and structural engineering principles).
The toggle support goes by weight so as long as the tv weight, which should be easily found online, is below the toggle weight limit it'll be okay if properly installed. For reference, I mounted a 55" tv with strap toggles and I've seen up to 75" mounted utilizing the correct toggle size. Good question!
I just mounted my 55” TV using these type of toggles. The TV weighs 35lbs, I used 4 toggles rated for 200lbs each. But the mount is a full motion type. Do you think it’ll hold? I’m not sure how to calculate the added weight from the extension of the mount.
I hate that pencil man. The second I saw it I got stressed out. You know exactly what I mean. 🤣🤣 I passed my PE October 2015. Hope that was your PE passing tool right there. Great video.
:) I was waiting for a fellow engineer to notice haha. It was my passing pencil as well, keeping that expensive pencil until the plastic wears away. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Hello man, this video is great, but wanted to ask, may seem dumb, but how durable is this method? I want to hang my dual monitors, with the mount, totaling like 32 pounds. I am scared of having them fall off, now there are 2 studs that will help it secure, but the wall mount itself is horizontally long, so I will need to use wall anchors.
Really reliable and not a bad question at all, I have three TV's currently mounted in my home all around 50lbs and no issues. I've never seen a failure yet and I've been using strap toggles for a bit more than 7 years now.
Those brackets came with the tv bracket mount. You could always make your own brackets/washer with a flat piece of small steel and using a drill. I've done that in the past. Let me know if that helps!
Ok this is gonna sound weird but I know for a fact there’s no studs in the wall that im planning to hang the tv since there used to be a sliding door (wood) and we basically left it there and built around when we were moving in. That being said the house is over 100 years old and I was planning to hang a 32 inch tv with those swivel mounts. I just wanted an honest opinion do you think it’d be alright?
In my opinion, I would do a test mount. Mount bracket and then hang something off bracket heavier than the TV and go through all the swivel motions. See how you feel and make the decision from there. 32 inch TV should be fairly light unless it's a tube screen haha
The screw comes with the toggle set, no need to find a screw that will fit. Based on the toggle size set you buy the pack will recommend a drill bit size for predrilling the wall. Hope that helps no guess work needed!
@@kearajones1378 correct, those lag bolts are not compatible with the screw connection of the strap toggle. Strap toggle has its own bolts that come in the kit
Hey nice, I can't remember the drill bit size but I used the recommended size stated on the strap toggle bag. For the mounting screw, I used the screws that came with the strap toggles. Their shear capacity is more than adequate for a TV.
Yes you can remove it, I typically take an exacto knife and cut enough of the outer plastic to get the toggle loose then push it through the wall. The downside is the toggle will be behind the wall haha, but there are worse things back there I'm sure from regular construction
This is definitely a great option.. we have a 60inch tv that I want to mount but I have a big concern with that size of a tv ripping through the drywall... we have a toddler and I really wouldn't want this falling. What would you say the weight limit for this set up to be?
Strap toggles come in different weight capacities. In my video you'll notice in the tool breakdown, the strap toggles I use are good for 70lbs *each* (4 toggles = 280lbs capacity) in drywall which is way above capacity for the 50" tv (~55lbs) I mounted. I've personally mounted a tv as large as 75" with strap toggles with no issues. Drywall is fairly strong in direct shear parallel with the panel. For extra comfort, you could always install a catch strap for your TV. It's a secondary strap that you can connect to the wall and attach the end to the tv's top mount locations. If there is any tilt in the tv, the straps catch it from falling all the way over. Hope that helps!
You can try and push the toggle trough the wall with the provided point tip, but it can be hard with a thicker gypsum wall. You can buy a cheaper punch tool as well and knock a starter hole with a punch and hammer
Would you recommend a full motion wall mount without studs? I know the static mount is fine but not sure how much extra downward force is coming off the edge of the mount when fully extended. And how much pressure it being put on the wall... Say the tv is 32 pounds, the wall mount extends 12 inches out... The wall mount is about 10 pounds Total is 42 pounds about is that too much you think?
It'd be worth seeing if any brand wall toggle had pullout values to counteract the torque from a full motion mount with long extension. The Hillman brand I don't believe list pullout values, only shear. I l'll dig into this some more to see what options are available
@@EngineeredMojo I don’t think any do. These weight ratings are always for static sheet pull. Also they are rating the actual anchor. Not the drywall itself. So even if it says it can hold say 80 pounds. That’s the anchor. The drywall will probably tap out at day 60 pounds (just guessing) I’m pretty sure the torque at the end of a arm is probably around 2-3 times the weight. I’ve seen people use a full motion mount at around 22 pounds for a tv. Plus the mount at 10 pounds. Total 32. But nothing higher. And most don’t recommend it Not sure. I guess I’ll stick with the same type of mount you have right now. Just on the wall no pull out
Bro...I appreciate ya...man my studs were too far apart to fit the mount so I was about to go out and try to find a bigger wall mount to fit...pay all that extra money...and it would have been for nothin if I didnt catch this video first....I really appreciate you brah....good job sir...👏👏👏👏👏🤜🤛🤝🤙
Very informative. I am mounting a floating entertainment center and the studs on my wall are not in the right place, so I needed to know how to mount my tv into drywall..
Glad the video was helpful and provided good information for you. Floating center is on my to do list for my living room, definitely makes a space look bigger
Cut a piece of three-quarter plywood approximately a quarter inch bigger than the amount you got a hold of TV with cut the sheet rock out exactly where you want to mount the TV in the same size as the 3/4 piece of plywood screw that into studs for cross frame from other studs then mount your bracket onto the three-quarter plywood do not do not do not only use sheet rock
I doubt you respond this long after the video but. Do you have to have a specific sized snap-toggle for the wall mounting set, or do the screws from the mounting set always go in to the toggle? Also, do the snap-toggles work on plaster wall? I looked it up but I didn’t get a straight answer.
Always use the screws that come with the strap toggle and not the screws that come with the mount. The mount screws are typically lag screws and don't work with strap toggles. You will sometimes have to purchase a washer that has a hole small enough for the strap toggle screw, but large enough outer diameter to sit firm against the mount. You could always do a test hole on a plaster wall and experiment. If it's thickness is similar to standard drywall, you may be fine.
I don’t see any advantage over the old toggle-bolts. Also I thought this might provide some clues on handling the weight without studs (non-existent or not centered). Apparently, just keep the tv to maybe 50” or smaller and keep it a wall-hugger.
Had a customer in Scarsdale New York had a 42 inch plasma TV only mounted with commercial graded metal toggle bolts probe all appropriate washers a very nice job never caught a stud the TV got knocked off the wall during a party it fell down and broke the leg of a four-year-old girl the insurance company would not cover the claim because of the inappropriate attachment to the wall
Oh wow, tough luck. Though I wouldnt blame the toggles in that scenario. Tv was knocked into at a party, therefore the load could have been increased pass capacity or wall itself may have failed. That could and has happened with stud installations. There is nothing inherently not strong about strap toggles and they are in use in millions of homes and commercial buildings. Can always add a safety strap to tv if you feel uncomfortable with toggles alone
Why not just cut a paper trafaret and fix that on the wall before drilling to find the perfect spot for Your TV? p.s. Some could also mark the holes on trafaret and level before drilling :)
I’m really nervous to use the toggle things. I’ve watched the video like 100 times to visually see it before I do it but I’m nervous I’m gunna screw it up
It's an easy process dont worry at all and there's no issue if you need to redo a failed toggle install. Just push the toggle through the wall and let it fall behind the wall, then reinstall a new toggle
The load from a TV is a shear load taken by the screws. There can be an out of plane moment induced by an articulated mount, but whether horizontal or vertical it doesn't matter, the same surface area of wall is resisting the load.
@@EngineeredMojo think about the toggle as a leaver. If it runs vertical there's more resistance, horizontal had less. The longer the leaver the more strength
@@md20120 that's a good way to think about it, but not accurate in this situation. Draw a free body diagram of the loads at the anchorage point considering a load of a TV. You'll have vertical shear and possibly axial tension compression (tension at top toggles, compression at bottom toggles). The orientation of the metal clip will not effect the tear out strength from the axial load and will have zero effect on the shear. Check out some info on engineering statics, it'll give a good background info on this and explain!
That's the great thing about a TV, it's a static load and unchanging. TVs in my house have held up for 5 years and counting with the largest at 65". TVs are very light nowadays as well
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Do you need snap toggles if you have one stud to work with and 2 screws are without a stud.
@@Dave-zx5yw I would still use a strap toggle at the location without a stud and wouldn't rely on the gypsum wall alone
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Thanks! I got tired of knocking on my wall looking for a stud. I need my screen where I want it! I appreciate it ☺️
Haha same here! Glad the video provided good value and thanks for sharing feedback
It's REALLY worth mentioning that this method is ONLY safe for flat wall mounts. These types of toggles are rated based on sheer weight only. Swivel mounts or full motion mounts create a LOT of torque weight and the drywall is very likely to fail!
Good point, the shear strength within the gypsum board is where it's at with this type of mount
Thank you for the info. I was wondering about how will work with Swivel mounts too. You made it clear.
So...the idea is that you should only mount a swivel mount onto a wall stud, and not this method?
@@chrisbaldwin3148 pretty much. There are other mounting options if you want to use an articulating mount, but shouldn't rely on drywall alone.
A VERy important piece of information. Thank you!! What then is the method used for swivel mounts?
When mounting using snap toggles, I think it's always best to offset the bolts mounting position, this will spread the mounted weight over more surface area, resulting in less drywall failure rates.
Potentially a good strategy! I could see this being beneficial if the area of influence between strap toggles overlaps
Possibly the best “how to” video I’ve ever seen, Thank you!!
I appreciate the solid video feedback! Glad it was a good representation for a how to video and hope any future TV mount install goes well
I wasn’t even looking for this video but I’m glad it started playing, I like how you were very specific on giving directions and giving examples as well, great job 👍🏽
Appreciate the solid video feedback and glad the video came upon your autoplay haha
Thanks for being so clear and simple. I have a mobile home and the walls do not have standard studs. So I'll give this a try.
Glad the video was clear for you, hope the project comes out well for you
Nice that you show what is happening behind the wall to give everyone the visual.
Thanks for the feedback on that portion of the video. Thought it would be helpful to at least one other person out there besides myself
YOOOO!!! I ran into this video and recognized you haha. You showed me how to change oil on an 8th gen civic lol
Haha glad I could pop back into your life, hope the video helped! Thanks for taking the time to let me know you've seen other vids of mine :)
Thanx my man. Never knew strap toggles were a thing. And considering I don't believe there are studs , this will help a great deal.
Thanx for using your time to benefit others.
God bless.
Perfect, glad this video was helpful and provided an alternative option for you
You just saved me lots of wall repair and time. Thank You
Awesome! Glad the video was helpful
Which toggle bolt would you use to mount a very heavy 55 inch tv?
Thanks man, you just save the day for me. Had all sorts of trouble making so many holes and was worried i almost hit a pipe. The the funny thing is I saw these parts in Home Depot but did not realize I needed them.
Glad the video was useful for you, strap toggles are a handy tool for sure!
How would I go about mounting a 75" tv in a business office knowing there may not be any studs? Can I use the same snap toggles to complete the job?
I second this question
...howdy from Nashville! Between you and See Jane Drill, I have learned a great deal on a couple few things! Thank you!
Dang! Now that's a compliment. I really enjoy her tutorials. Thanks for taking the time to provide me with feedback
Bro thank you! I’m mounting my first tv and this was just what I needed. Bless you sir 😭
Glad it was helpful 😀
Thank you so much for this video. I was worried about whether I could mount a tv to the wall between studs. Ordering the strap hangers right now!!!!
Glad the video was useful and showed an alternative for you :)
So if you use the studs that come with tv mount instead of these good or bad
This positioning method assumes the mounting holes of the bracket align with center of the tv when mounting bracket is attached. This is not the case with all wall mounts but sure is easy with this one.
Ahh that's a good point, there could be unorthodox mounting patterns potentially for cheaper mounting brackets
I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out but the toggles work best if the are vertical and not horizontal. Placing them horizontally will not provide the full holding power they advertise.
Ahh this can make sense! I can see how the pry out capacity would potentially increase with the toggle placed vertically
So my husband and I are trying to install a floating countertop in our kitchen but the studs don’t go down low enough. Would this work for that issue?
The intent of the strap toggles would still be valid to hold weight, though a floating ountertop would be a fairly heavy and extended load. Would probably only try it if the countertop had a triangular support frame to the wall. Worth a test try for sure
@@EngineeredMojo Thanks!
Do you think this would work with a 77 lb TV? Specifically the Samsung Frame 75".
I don't see why not as long as the weight is low enough for the anchors and proper install!
@@EngineeredMojo Thanks I landed on the GeeFix anchors, they just look like the strongest option out there. I've watched far too many vids on this. 😂
@@MarkWoodChannel can never be over prepared especially for a nice TV like you are about to hang lol
@@EngineeredMojo Worst part is it's already hung into studs, she doesn't like where it is. Moving it 8" to the left and 4 inches down. Welcome to being married lol.
My son just got a home in a trailer park will this work on that type of wall as well ? Is there a minimum thickness on the drywall? I think it is thinner than in a regular home thanks for the info
I'm not sure about those type walls. Typically they are thinner gypsum or even a plastic panel material. You could always try a test area, that's what I would do
Thank you I was just trying to figure this out!! May also use to mount a fire place mantle !!
Nice! Glad video was helpful and cool idea to use to mount fire place mantle
the best video on youtube of this kind.
Thanks for the feedback! Glad the video provided a good presentation
Where’d you get those washers?
Those washers came with the TV mount kit shown in the video and not with the strap toggles.
Hello there I just got a 70inch Samsung tv and a full range motion wall mount that I wanted to mount him a tv that has no wall studs. What size strap toggle do I use.? Thank you for your time
The size toggle would depend on your tv weight. TV weight can be found typically on the box or quick online search of tv model #. Then do a proper assessment of your wall integrity and mount integrity for its ability to hold the tv weight. Good luck with installation!
Did you manage to mount ? I am planning to do the same thing
@@AYoungTo I used a snap toogler hanger anchor. And I’ve had my 70 inch tv mounted for 9 moths now. Works like a charm!
@@AYoungTo Home Depot has them. Make sure you get ones that hold up a lot of lbs.
Thanks!
I’m planning to mount a 75”, I only have studs on the right side. It weighs 70lbs
Mantle mount 540 weighs 29 lbs
My contractor was nervous about helping me install it….
What a cool device. Thanks for the tips!
Glad to be of service, hope the video was helpful!
Does this work for mount that extend? Thanks!
With toggle bolts...I'm using a mount that lets the tv extend out just over 2' from the wall. Sure right against the wall the toggle bolt does hold the prescribed weight. Put a 65" tv, plus a 20 lb mount, extended out 2'... Would be 70+ lbs at 2' - multiples more than 70lbs on the toggle. I know certainly not everyone's set up, but just saying for people to keep in mind if they picked up a mount that lets you extend the tv out from the wall, there is a lot more force than you may think.
That's a good point for folks to remember! Definitely adding a wood backer board in the uo down direction with toggle mounts could take some of the additional torque out of the wall
Is it safe to use this method when hanging a TV that weighs 77 pounds?
If the correct weight capacity strap toggles are picked and installed correctly with bracket, should be no problem!
I love the eerie music. I feel like I’m on a ghost hunt at an abandoned Asylum!!!
😂 I was in a dark space mood wise while making this video
How do we know if the mounting bolts that come with the TV hardware will thread in to the toggle bolt? I mean, would if the bolts are metric and the toggle threads are standard?
The strap toggle comes with it's own mounting bolt hardware rated for its strength. You do not use the lag bolts from the bracket mount kit. The other bolts from the TV to the bracket have no interaction with the strap toggle at all, don't confuse the two.
@@EngineeredMojo thanks for clearing that up.
Would this be safe for a flat mount that has the slight angle adjusting ability? Where you can have the tv angled a little higher or lower however you’re laying in bed? Not planning on adjusting over and over but wanted to see if that makes it sketchy? Looking to do this on a 40” tv. Planning on being like 50lbs in total with mount and tv.
Good video, but if you read the back of the package, they don't recommend using for mounting a TV.
Weight is weight no difference if it's a tv or a heavy picture frame. It's all about force direction and magnitude
Was hoping to find your brand of strap toggles on amazon because I literally shop on there for everything and it comes fast lol but I don’t see them😔 I did find a different brand but idk if they’ll work as good as yours did!
I recently looked for them as well and couldn't find them in same variation. I found the brand at Home Depot, but they changed them slightly. Still worked good though. I'm sure with same careful steps, most brands will work well
Hi what if I want to mount the tv bracket on a plasterboard wall that is several inches thick?
I would give it a try, plasterboard and drywall are similar with plasterboard just being a base for plaster and given plasterboard is thicker and stiffer than drywall. Numerous strap toggle manufacturers even list plasterboard as a viable mounting surface. I would just verify the strap toggle is long enough for the set in the deeper wall. Hope that helps!
How much weight can this hold?
It will vary depending on the strap toggle size you buy. I've seen strap toggles for sale that can hold up to 100lbs
Is ut really gonna be able to support the weight of a TV, especially if u have an articulating mount
Sure will, just need to make sure the tv and mount weight is below the strap toggle weight limit. I have multiple televisions in my house mounted with strap toggles with the largest being 55 inch. I've seen up to 75 inch mounted with a correctly sized strap toggle!
@@EngineeredMojo great video, what size did you use for 55iinche i am going to set up tomorrow? was going to pay for installation but might try myself
Will this work on mobile home walls mine is drywall
If it's drywall it'll work fine!
Engineered Mojo thanks!! Now I can mount my tv
Can this method be used for a 65 inch tv weighing about 88 pounds? Planning to use slightly heavy full motion tv mount
Thanks for the video! would this work with a single stud tv mount?
No problem, hope the video was helpful! The same principles should apply I would think. As long as the weight placed on the strap toggle is less than it's capacity and installed correctly it should be fine.
@@EngineeredMojo awesome, thanks!
Which tv wall mount did you use
I can't remember, it was a birthday gift from my cousin and I have thrown the box away long ago.
How much weight can this method handle? I plan on mounting a 75in tv.
The weight limit is stated right on the package. There are different size toggles, bigger the toggle, more weight it can hold. Typically with light weight modern TVs and the weight divided by 4 toggles, you'd have many options to choose from. For bigger TVs, I'd be sure to get a mount that isn't articulated i.e. allowing tv to extend far away from wall. Your standard mount with tilt action works well with toggles from my experience. I've seen 85" TVs mounted at department stores in this fashion, no problem.
I was planning on putting up a speed bag (weights about 65lbs) do you think I could do it using a few of these snap toggles cause where I want to hang it there is no stud
For a speed bag, it might be tough getting these to work using the stock speed bag mounting locations. You'd have 65lbs plus the increase in weight from the momentum of hitting the bag which could factor the bag weight multiple times. If it were me, I'd do a trial attachment with the strongest strap toggles I could find by weight capacity. I'm sure the toggles rating have a factor of safety that greatly underestimates their true capacity. If it works great, if it doesn't then I would modify the connection by attaching the speed bag first to a 2x or 3x timber board using lag screws then have the timber board be wide enough to space the toggle brackets apart further than the stock mounting locations and attach to the wall. Spreading the toggles apart decreases the tension demand on an individual toggle (this is using statics, moment couple, and structural engineering principles).
Engineered Mojo thank you
@@joxhb no problem!
Not sure if this was asked already in the comments but how big of a tv can the toggles support? I have a 48” tv so was wondering
The toggle support goes by weight so as long as the tv weight, which should be easily found online, is below the toggle weight limit it'll be okay if properly installed. For reference, I mounted a 55" tv with strap toggles and I've seen up to 75" mounted utilizing the correct toggle size. Good question!
Did you use a 1/4 inch toggle strap or 3/16 inch toggle strap?
In this video I used a 3/16 inch strap toggle
Thanks bro very informative not like the other videos I have watched 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome, great to hear. Glad the video was helpful and thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on the video!
Where'd you get the mount?
I bought the mount from amazon for under $40 and the strap toggles I bought from local hardware store e.g. home depot, lowes, etc.
I just mounted my 55” TV using these type of toggles. The TV weighs 35lbs, I used 4 toggles rated for 200lbs each. But the mount is a full motion type. Do you think it’ll hold? I’m not sure how to calculate the added weight from the extension of the mount.
Did it end up holding?
@@saramartins3391 nope. The wall started cracking so it pulled it down before the TV fell off the wall.
I hate that pencil man. The second I saw it I got stressed out. You know exactly what I mean. 🤣🤣 I passed my PE October 2015. Hope that was your PE passing tool right there. Great video.
:) I was waiting for a fellow engineer to notice haha. It was my passing pencil as well, keeping that expensive pencil until the plastic wears away. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Engineered Mojo very expensive pencil indeed. My pleasure.
Hello man, this video is great, but wanted to ask, may seem dumb, but how durable is this method? I want to hang my dual monitors, with the mount, totaling like 32 pounds. I am scared of having them fall off, now there are 2 studs that will help it secure, but the wall mount itself is horizontally long, so I will need to use wall anchors.
Really reliable and not a bad question at all, I have three TV's currently mounted in my home all around 50lbs and no issues. I've never seen a failure yet and I've been using strap toggles for a bit more than 7 years now.
Would this work on a mobile home with a wall that was damaged and has been drywalled?
Thanks in advance
Manufacturer says sure can as long as it's being installed in drywall or plywood or osb!
Where did you those three hole brackets at? I can't find them anywhere.
Those brackets came with the tv bracket mount. You could always make your own brackets/washer with a flat piece of small steel and using a drill. I've done that in the past. Let me know if that helps!
Ok this is gonna sound weird but I know for a fact there’s no studs in the wall that im planning to hang the tv since there used to be a sliding door (wood) and we basically left it there and built around when we were moving in. That being said the house is over 100 years old and I was planning to hang a 32 inch tv with those swivel mounts. I just wanted an honest opinion do you think it’d be alright?
In my opinion, I would do a test mount. Mount bracket and then hang something off bracket heavier than the TV and go through all the swivel motions. See how you feel and make the decision from there. 32 inch TV should be fairly light unless it's a tube screen haha
@@EngineeredMojo haha😂 but sounds good, thank you so much!!
Do you use the toggle for the size of hole you drill or for the size of lag or screw
The screw comes with the toggle set, no need to find a screw that will fit. Based on the toggle size set you buy the pack will recommend a drill bit size for predrilling the wall. Hope that helps no guess work needed!
So I wouldn’t use the lag bolts that come with the mount kit ?
@@kearajones1378 correct, those lag bolts are not compatible with the screw connection of the strap toggle. Strap toggle has its own bolts that come in the kit
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@@ItsTJ1 I try to keep up, help out where I can. I like the idea of a community on RUclips helping each other out
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Excellent video, thank you!
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Amazing, made it very easy! Thanks
Glad the video was helpful and thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on the video
What about on a plaster wall without studs
Thanks for this video. I have that same TV mount. What size drill bit did you use and mounting screw size?
Hey nice, I can't remember the drill bit size but I used the recommended size stated on the strap toggle bag. For the mounting screw, I used the screws that came with the strap toggles. Their shear capacity is more than adequate for a TV.
@@EngineeredMojo Right on...Thanks again. Keep posting these kinds of videos. They are awesone...
Thank you very much for the helpful video
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Is it possible to remove the Strap-Toggle after you install it in the wall?
Yes you can remove it, I typically take an exacto knife and cut enough of the outer plastic to get the toggle loose then push it through the wall. The downside is the toggle will be behind the wall haha, but there are worse things back there I'm sure from regular construction
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This is definitely a great option.. we have a 60inch tv that I want to mount but I have a big concern with that size of a tv ripping through the drywall... we have a toddler and I really wouldn't want this falling. What would you say the weight limit for this set up to be?
Strap toggles come in different weight capacities. In my video you'll notice in the tool breakdown, the strap toggles I use are good for 70lbs *each* (4 toggles = 280lbs capacity) in drywall which is way above capacity for the 50" tv (~55lbs) I mounted. I've personally mounted a tv as large as 75" with strap toggles with no issues. Drywall is fairly strong in direct shear parallel with the panel. For extra comfort, you could always install a catch strap for your TV. It's a secondary strap that you can connect to the wall and attach the end to the tv's top mount locations. If there is any tilt in the tv, the straps catch it from falling all the way over. Hope that helps!
what if u do not have a drill
You can try and push the toggle trough the wall with the provided point tip, but it can be hard with a thicker gypsum wall. You can buy a cheaper punch tool as well and knock a starter hole with a punch and hammer
Great video very informative thank you
Awesome to hear! I'm glad the video was informative for you and appreciate the feedback on the video
I went out and grabbed those “strap toggle” things from Home Depot. Those made everything easy. Thank you so much for making this video.
Awesome to hear, they are a great tool for this application. Glad it worked out well!
Thank you! Very helpful.
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what if u don't have a drill
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Would you recommend a full motion wall mount without studs? I know the static mount is fine but not sure how much extra downward force is coming off the edge of the mount when fully extended. And how much pressure it being put on the wall...
Say the tv is 32 pounds, the wall mount extends 12 inches out...
The wall mount is about 10 pounds
Total is 42 pounds about is that too much you think?
It'd be worth seeing if any brand wall toggle had pullout values to counteract the torque from a full motion mount with long extension. The Hillman brand I don't believe list pullout values, only shear. I l'll dig into this some more to see what options are available
@@EngineeredMojo I don’t think any do. These weight ratings are always for static sheet pull. Also they are rating the actual anchor. Not the drywall itself. So even if it says it can hold say 80 pounds. That’s the anchor. The drywall will probably tap out at day 60 pounds (just guessing)
I’m pretty sure the torque at the end of a arm is probably around 2-3 times the weight.
I’ve seen people use a full motion mount at around 22 pounds for a tv. Plus the mount at 10 pounds. Total 32. But nothing higher. And most don’t recommend it
Not sure. I guess I’ll stick with the same type of mount you have right now. Just on the wall no pull out
@@TripleAceAAA this is good info, thanks for sharing. I agree, better to be conservative in this situation
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No problem, glad the video was helpful! Appreciate the feedback on the video for sure :)
Very informative. I am mounting a floating entertainment center and the studs on my wall are not in the right place, so I needed to know how to mount my tv into drywall..
Glad the video was helpful and provided good information for you. Floating center is on my to do list for my living room, definitely makes a space look bigger
Cut a piece of three-quarter plywood approximately a quarter inch bigger than the amount you got a hold of TV with cut the sheet rock out exactly where you want to mount the TV in the same size as the 3/4 piece of plywood screw that into studs for cross frame from other studs then mount your bracket onto the three-quarter plywood do not do not do not only use sheet rock
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I doubt you respond this long after the video but. Do you have to have a specific sized snap-toggle for the wall mounting set, or do the screws from the mounting set always go in to the toggle? Also, do the snap-toggles work on plaster wall? I looked it up but I didn’t get a straight answer.
Always use the screws that come with the strap toggle and not the screws that come with the mount. The mount screws are typically lag screws and don't work with strap toggles. You will sometimes have to purchase a washer that has a hole small enough for the strap toggle screw, but large enough outer diameter to sit firm against the mount. You could always do a test hole on a plaster wall and experiment. If it's thickness is similar to standard drywall, you may be fine.
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@@EngineeredMojo Your video helped very much. My 15yo daughter & I got her tv mounted with no problems. We are pros now 😆💪🏽
@@IsisBenford Nice, good to hear! Know she's happy about that
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Thanks man my entire room has no studs LMAO
Damn, cheap builders lol
Bro where I can find those stuffs?🙂
I bought these straps from Home Depot but can be bought through Amazon or other online vendors
I don’t see any advantage over the old toggle-bolts.
Also I thought this might provide some clues on handling the weight without studs (non-existent or not centered).
Apparently, just keep the tv to maybe 50” or smaller and keep it a wall-hugger.
Had a customer in Scarsdale New York had a 42 inch plasma TV only mounted with commercial graded metal toggle bolts probe all appropriate washers a very nice job never caught a stud the TV got knocked off the wall during a party it fell down and broke the leg of a four-year-old girl the insurance company would not cover the claim because of the inappropriate attachment to the wall
Oh wow, tough luck. Though I wouldnt blame the toggles in that scenario. Tv was knocked into at a party, therefore the load could have been increased pass capacity or wall itself may have failed. That could and has happened with stud installations. There is nothing inherently not strong about strap toggles and they are in use in millions of homes and commercial buildings. Can always add a safety strap to tv if you feel uncomfortable with toggles alone
Why not just cut a paper trafaret and fix that on the wall before drilling to find the perfect spot for Your TV? p.s. Some could also mark the holes on trafaret and level before drilling :)
That's a good tip! Most tv mount brackets come with some sort of paper guide too.
I’m really nervous to use the toggle things. I’ve watched the video like 100 times to visually see it before I do it but I’m nervous I’m gunna screw it up
It's an easy process dont worry at all and there's no issue if you need to redo a failed toggle install. Just push the toggle through the wall and let it fall behind the wall, then reinstall a new toggle
Why does the background music sound like PlayStation 4 menu music?? 😂
LOL, I was playing a bunch of GTA V on playstation during this time. It may have influenced me
That's all very good, but that crotch shot was uncalled for...😂
LMAO, I've gotten a bit too comfortable while filming
The load of the TV runs vertical so the snap toggles should run vertical too, not horizontal. If they're horizontal they're literally useless
The load from a TV is a shear load taken by the screws. There can be an out of plane moment induced by an articulated mount, but whether horizontal or vertical it doesn't matter, the same surface area of wall is resisting the load.
@@EngineeredMojo think about the toggle as a leaver. If it runs vertical there's more resistance, horizontal had less. The longer the leaver the more strength
@@md20120 that's a good way to think about it, but not accurate in this situation. Draw a free body diagram of the loads at the anchorage point considering a load of a TV. You'll have vertical shear and possibly axial tension compression (tension at top toggles, compression at bottom toggles). The orientation of the metal clip will not effect the tear out strength from the axial load and will have zero effect on the shear. Check out some info on engineering statics, it'll give a good background info on this and explain!
thanks! my tv fell and broke my whole desk setup!
You might could get away with it on a 32 inch on dry wall anything beyond that, in do time trouble
That's the great thing about a TV, it's a static load and unchanging. TVs in my house have held up for 5 years and counting with the largest at 65". TVs are very light nowadays as well
I gotta do math nope im hiring somebody. Imma tear my walls up!
Haha, I have faith in you it's not too bad
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