I used Shadow magic ever since I started playing World of Magic. I chose it because I wanted to be evil, but then I decided to have a positive reputation because I realized how hard it was to play when you have negative reputation.
Negative rep isn’t hard to play at ALL!! It’s fun if you like fighting heroes and grand navy losers and have some decent combat experience, since as a criminal you’ll be targeted by both heroes and other criminals.
@@Mattssz not only the magic council, but you couldnt/cant use the shops in town and so you had to get lucky to find a enchanter or a guy that could upgrade your stuf.
Idk if it’s just me, but every shadow mage I’ve ever encountered was an extremely sweaty player, most likely with a groove on their chair type of sweaty
i found 2 not so sweaty shadow mage that only know to spam beams and the skill that not required to aim much i’m bad at pvp at that time so they beat me easily but now if i find them again then not gonna be a chance
this one savant I dueled used shadow magic and SOLELY used its blast and beam for damage when he had the staff and dual swords. strangest thing is he didn't even wanna talk with me when I asked basic things like his stats, all he said was "R" "S" "G" when I respawned and went back to the arena. he was so dead-fuckin-set to the pvp grindset cuz his magic made holes in his brain where the personality gray matter would be. this magic isn't just busted, it's radioactive. like come on man! savant's supposed to be the fun class!
oh yeah, following up on the last comment, he did say he had 82 power. this is important because I was using magma magic and had 90 power, yet we were still somehow near equal in damage on our blasts except his went at hyper speed. "Skill issue" MY ASS
Its kinda curious because ive never heard anyone say they hate shadow magic till now, also, i chose shadow magic just because its the one i had in arcane reborn, and i also suck ridiculously at pvp, so i must be one of the few shadow conjurers that are not sweats
I'm a shadow main since WoM but recently i gave up magic altogether and went warlord, shadow seems really solid choice but it's extremely boring if you aren't sweaty PvP only demon.
As a person who just started using shadow mage with 100 attack speed, I can confirm that shadow is fast and hurts like hell. I can't even imagine how fast it would be if it had 200 attack speed, but I'm waiting for defense-attack speed gem to see what's the fuss all about. Shadow can be changed to have more reactions and have lesser damage as a whole because it is such a good solo magic even while leveling up. Using shadow blast feels like using a musket but with a bigger bullet. At only 69 power, with power aura, I can do 450+ damage just from a fully charged blast and it's honestly disgusting. I've met tryhards who use shadow as a hunt/pvp magic like one of the emperor of the seas, but I just use it solely to get back at those pesky toxic players to give them a taste of their own medicine.
I've been a shadow user since arcane adventures. I don't give Jack crap about if it's meta or not. I use it because I genuinely like shadow. Cheers for those who has been using shadow for the same reasons. Let us fellow shadow users reside in our own little community 😂
Shadow user since AA, and I personally find nothing wrong with it (I just suck at combat) I even ended up making a clan I named "The Shadowmancers" So far I'm the only shadow mage in it and its infamy is really low but it's not that much of a problem
@@Femselli just looked at the balance document and I don’t see buffs for fire magic anywhere can you tell me what Is gonna get buffed about it since I use fire on pretty much all my hybrid builds
Snow is getting a planned damage nerf, to 0.9x Sand got nerfed to 0.95x already the wiki just hasn't updated it Also it's much easier to combo with shadow compared to switching back and forth between your main magic and a smaller secondary magic for a damage boost or stun, as shadow will either be faster, or have a high damage output, or maybe both.
as a 300 attack sped shadow mage I think shadow is perfectly balanced as I miss a lot and if shadow is overpowered how could I miss? also how can I stop myself from getting into car crashes?
Probably it needs its blindness nerfed and the damage... Ive played against 5 diffrent shadow mages i literally got hit once and got blinded then half my ho dissapears like the fathers of shadow mages
I also used shadow magic just to be evil(though he wasn't my main built) back in World of Magic he was my villain built and in Arcane Odessy, I would do things like rescuing a bunch of cast aways just to take them with me to the dark sea. Basically, I didn't know shadow was broken, I just wanted to make an evil mage.
i swear dealing with jumper spamming beam and infinite air time suck, i just travel to dark sea and one person just chasing me and jumped me then just keep staying in the air and attacking but that was conjurer then in ravenna when i haven’t got good pvp set yet, literally a shadow mage jumped me for no reason then leave the game after spamming all of the beams at me
Something that i kinda hate with AO devs / tester (any kind of staff) is that when they test they literally only do PvP and .... still so much unbalance ? Shadow , like you said in this video is kinda broken for months , explosion thermo fist , metal mages ....... Hope that this year vetex will actually give more time to balance instead of adding random features that nobody care like skin tanning
you commented this under selectorch's video and I have the same response he did pretty much Vetex has no involvement with the balancing of the game whatsoever it is fully on the balance team lol the AO moderators / discord moderators don't either even some testers don't balance the game yes I do agree but every "balance change" is pushed with every update hense why metal mage was fixed in the next major update crystal warlock was fixed in a different update too it's not vetex's fault lmao
Vetex is the dev , vetex is the one that should listen to the community and tester to dix the game. Did anybody asked for skin tanning , being slower in the sand or changing some random details like this ? No. Did the community asked for balance using the same build as an example ? Yes , did he do something ? No. Thats what im saying , i've heard that the tester send vetex some files literally everything to fix but he mostly didnt care @@Femsell
Shadow's very good but I wouldn't say its the best magic like some people say it is, light mage, and lightning mage are both better than shadow mage, and basically every stun mage out there is better than shadow mage as well, shadow mage also gets outclassed by berserker and maybe even conjurer depending on the weapons they use
And people were shitting on shadow conjurer in the beginning of the game im just glad i changed my shadow conjurer to warrior instead of deleting it not only that i have 96 atk speed so yeah
a few weeks after the last update i quited ao because there was nothing fun to do so idk if the meta changed but i think shadow is balanced because you got no synergis but i think that having 1.15 attak size is wrong because it doesnt make any sense, it should have 1x attack size
Metagaming is one of the main reasons why I have an aversion to games with pvp. Even though I love AO it really pisses me off that I cant just play my character the way I want because some meta slave is gonna come in with the most OP build and kill me in two seconds because my build is mediocre and focuses more on roleplay vibes than busted gameplay
If Ink magic still existed, I wouldn't have done a Shadow & Poison mage build for my first actual "good guy" play through And I remember it's damage being .8x, as well as it's size being under 1. Am I just miss-remembering that or did it used to be weaker? Either way Snow Sucks and being meta is BORING
Legit the only reason I deleted my Shadow Mage save was because I went too fast and didnt grind any loot :skull: like bro I could've just grinded the loot then and there edit: I also deleted the slot because I just didnt like the way it looked
abit out of topic here as i am talking about fighting style instead of magic here but what genuinely gets me is that basic fighting style attack is the equivalent of shadow yet i dont really see people talk about how genuinely good it is it has no synergy and with enough attack speed you're bound to catch up with anyone and you can easily reach 200+ damage with shot alone honestly wish i could have more opinions on shadow as a whole but i rarely see people run it in SG as i join random servers, only pvpers really run it and i barely see any if im joining just random servers
crash and rushdown are kinda clunky at times, and fighting styles generally require more skill than magic. on the other hand, blast + beam spam is way easier and snare is just free dmg, not to mention surge just wins group fights most of the time
@@cocktail-musicmore8530 honestly crash and rushdown has been extremely consistent in distance and surge while useful in group fights, can be terrible during 1v1s
I was a shadow main since arcane adventures, and incredibly i gave up in that to play warlord and berserker, shadow is a really cool magic and theres no synergies for a reason, its for only people that know how to play.
Dang i was considering switching to shadow cuz i feel bad using ash n i kinda like black color more... now shadow prolly gunna be nerfed into the ground 😔
Tell me why tf would it be nerfed at all?? The reason it has good stats is because it doesnt have ANY synergies and debuffs other magics alot, just go for it
Shadow is a strong magic and it will stay on top if is not a direct nerf against shadow and nothing will make it bad beacuse atk speed gets guted but shadow still got power and size, size can get guted and still is exceling above most of magics. Personally i run explosion since wom, i played out of fun and i made a warlock when ao came out(explosion thermo).I withnessed nerfs that went from 0.95 speed down to 0.8 speed and recent imbue nerf of 0.75 (thank you iron leg explosion) at this point i can run anything better but the issue is not solved by nerfing but by remaking the magic, make it as light, give it self sinergy and nerf his power, size and atk speed by a bit, it will get 5% or 10% self synergy but it will be less stats.
I used Shadow magic ever since I started playing World of Magic. I chose it because I wanted to be evil, but then I decided to have a positive reputation because I realized how hard it was to play when you have negative reputation.
Negative rep isn’t hard to play at ALL!! It’s fun if you like fighting heroes and grand navy losers and have some decent combat experience, since as a criminal you’ll be targeted by both heroes and other criminals.
@@Mattssz I was talking about playing Negative rep in WoM
@@LPW4BC ah yes, the Magic council was something
@@Mattssz not only the magic council, but you couldnt/cant use the shops in town and so you had to get lucky to find a enchanter or a guy that could upgrade your stuf.
@@Mattssz honnestly it's fun but sometimes being hunted by 3 players and 40 marine when you was just fishing is crazy
Idk if it’s just me, but every shadow mage I’ve ever encountered was an extremely sweaty player, most likely with a groove on their chair type of sweaty
i found 2 not so sweaty shadow mage that only know to spam beams and the skill that not required to aim much
i’m bad at pvp at that time so they beat me easily but now if i find them again then not gonna be a chance
@@nguyenduythang7598 another notable one I found was somebody who was ganking people at Ravenna, and they ended up getting humbled by a thermolord
this one savant I dueled used shadow magic and SOLELY used its blast and beam for damage when he had the staff and dual swords. strangest thing is he didn't even wanna talk with me when I asked basic things like his stats, all he said was "R" "S" "G" when I respawned and went back to the arena. he was so dead-fuckin-set to the pvp grindset cuz his magic made holes in his brain where the personality gray matter would be. this magic isn't just busted, it's radioactive.
like come on man! savant's supposed to be the fun class!
oh yeah, following up on the last comment, he did say he had 82 power. this is important because I was using magma magic and had 90 power, yet we were still somehow near equal in damage on our blasts except his went at hyper speed.
"Skill issue" MY ASS
Yes, especially the ones who trackstar around and spam huge fast blasts and call you fodder. Like, where are you getting all those stats from??
Its kinda curious because ive never heard anyone say they hate shadow magic till now, also, i chose shadow magic just because its the one i had in arcane reborn, and i also suck ridiculously at pvp, so i must be one of the few shadow conjurers that are not sweats
is it because its bla-
dawg
That, and broken
NAHHHHHH
I agree 100%
That is NOT okay to say
They should make shadow do 2x more damage to people who are afraid of the dark
fr
I'm a shadow main since WoM but recently i gave up magic altogether and went warlord, shadow seems really solid choice but it's extremely boring if you aren't sweaty PvP only demon.
Same I went w warlord because, I rather switch styles then have my whole magic be gutted n unusable
my first ever slot in arcane odyssey was a shadow conjurer and i deleted it because i thought shadow was a boring magic 😭
got bored of shadow warlock after like a few weeks honestly even when i ran shadow boxing, felt boring even as a pvp sweat
in my opinion shadow in wom was fun for pve
As a person who just started using shadow mage with 100 attack speed, I can confirm that shadow is fast and hurts like hell. I can't even imagine how fast it would be if it had 200 attack speed, but I'm waiting for defense-attack speed gem to see what's the fuss all about. Shadow can be changed to have more reactions and have lesser damage as a whole because it is such a good solo magic even while leveling up. Using shadow blast feels like using a musket but with a bigger bullet. At only 69 power, with power aura, I can do 450+ damage just from a fully charged blast and it's honestly disgusting. I've met tryhards who use shadow as a hunt/pvp magic like one of the emperor of the seas, but I just use it solely to get back at those pesky toxic players to give them a taste of their own medicine.
i have 500
I agree. This shadow conj was hunting everybody in servers then hoping immediately. It's annoying, most shadows I met were just like that.
Attack speed effects is getting "nerfed" next update
@@any.user.allowed. I usually just make insane builds if i hunt somone its def personal lol
@@graiitex572YESSIR POWER META
Literally me who been running shadow magic slot since day one just because i was ink main in world of magic:
I've been a shadow user since arcane adventures. I don't give Jack crap about if it's meta or not. I use it because I genuinely like shadow. Cheers for those who has been using shadow for the same reasons. Let us fellow shadow users reside in our own little community 😂
first magic for me as well
@@skotskot3379 Im gen 4 guy, so i been running Ink magic since WoM so closest alternative to that i saw is shadow
@@skell6134 cool
Shadow user since AA, and I personally find nothing wrong with it (I just suck at combat)
I even ended up making a clan I named "The Shadowmancers"
So far I'm the only shadow mage in it and its infamy is really low but it's not that much of a problem
I used it in arcane adventures, but mainly liked the idea of fighting styles, so when arcane odyssey came out, I just ran earth and ditched my magic.
I've probably never felt the power of snow because i am a paladin, and freeze literally doesn't work on npcs for some reason
I used shadow since WoM. I chose it because I thought it seemed cool
Same
Top five magics that I consider broken Light, Lightning, Shadow, Snow, and Acid
Controversial opinion replace acid with fire (look at it's fucking buffs it's stupid
Did snow ever received any buff/changes or did it took almost a year for people to realise that snow has synergy?
@@pavlo5551 people just slept on it for ages plus after it got it's debuff on bleed removed people noticed
@@Femselli just looked at the balance document and I don’t see buffs for fire magic anywhere can you tell me what Is gonna get buffed about it since I use fire on pretty much all my hybrid builds
@@averagedude1841 fire is getting a size buff of 1.1x size to 1.15x size
Snow is getting a planned damage nerf, to 0.9x
Sand got nerfed to 0.95x already the wiki just hasn't updated it
Also it's much easier to combo with shadow compared to switching back and forth between your main magic and a smaller secondary magic for a damage boost or stun, as shadow will either be faster, or have a high damage output, or maybe both.
nah my problem is literally aiming, I'm still wating for they realise it would be more fun if you could lock the camera in a target
Wait ny boy waitb for a thousang years
if they can just lower the damage. it doesnt need so much dmg
not as much damage as in AA but yeah it might need some nerf to attack speed
that or the speed
Logically shadow is just straight up nothing and yet it does higher damage then most magics
aspd nerf? No
Damage definitely. maybe make it the same as light and add extra gimmicks so shadow isn't so bland
@@MusicToilet It checks out tbf, if there's literally nothing your body will combust
as a 300 attack sped shadow mage I think shadow is perfectly balanced as I miss a lot and if shadow is overpowered how could I miss? also how can I stop myself from getting into car crashes?
i'm here running shadow conjurer aoe since day one and never changing for the meta
Probably it needs its blindness nerfed and the damage... Ive played against 5 diffrent shadow mages i literally got hit once and got blinded then half my ho dissapears like the fathers of shadow mages
I also used shadow magic just to be evil(though he wasn't my main built) back in World of Magic he was my villain built and in Arcane Odessy, I would do things like rescuing a bunch of cast aways just to take them with me to the dark sea. Basically, I didn't know shadow was broken, I just wanted to make an evil mage.
i swear dealing with jumper spamming beam and infinite air time suck, i just travel to dark sea and one person just chasing me and jumped me then just keep staying in the air and attacking but that was conjurer
then in ravenna when i haven’t got good pvp set yet, literally a shadow mage jumped me for no reason then leave the game after spamming all of the beams at me
That's just pvp sweats in general
@@Femsell tbh i never know how bad for people to be called pvp sweat but i guess
Something that i kinda hate with AO devs / tester (any kind of staff) is that when they test they literally only do PvP and .... still so much unbalance ? Shadow , like you said in this video is kinda broken for months , explosion thermo fist , metal mages ....... Hope that this year vetex will actually give more time to balance instead of adding random features that nobody care like skin tanning
you commented this under selectorch's video and I have the same response he did pretty much
Vetex has no involvement with the balancing of the game whatsoever it is fully on the balance team lol the AO moderators / discord moderators don't either even some testers don't balance the game
yes I do agree but every "balance change" is pushed with every update hense why metal mage was fixed in the next major update crystal warlock was fixed in a different update too
it's not vetex's fault lmao
Vetex is the dev , vetex is the one that should listen to the community and tester to dix the game.
Did anybody asked for skin tanning , being slower in the sand or changing some random details like this ? No.
Did the community asked for balance using the same build as an example ? Yes , did he do something ? No.
Thats what im saying , i've heard that the tester send vetex some files literally everything to fix but he mostly didnt care @@Femsell
Wait, explosion thermofist was good ?
It is , imbued you got VERY good damages , pretty good size and A LOT OF SPEED like almost instant even tho explosion is kinda slow@@pneusur
Shadow's very good but I wouldn't say its the best magic like some people say it is, light mage, and lightning mage are both better than shadow mage, and basically every stun mage out there is better than shadow mage as well, shadow mage also gets outclassed by berserker and maybe even conjurer depending on the weapons they use
I feel like it’ll feel more balanced once the story progresses more and the lvl cap increases
I didn't want to be a shadow user, but they took away my WoM Ink, and I had no other options (besides water but I didn't want water).
Me and the other 2 shadow warlocks enjoyed this video
as a savant shadow its funny to have 2 muskets that delas insane dmg
Bruh the only players I seen use shadow are Npc criminals and pirates
This music on background sounds to me familliar... 😅 like Sonata from Eminence in Shadow
now let talk about sunken sword + snow magic
shadow is my favorite AA element :C
And people were shitting on shadow conjurer in the beginning of the game im just glad i changed my shadow conjurer to warrior instead of deleting it not only that i have 96 atk speed so yeah
femsell should run a light + shadow mage
Sand has 1.5x size??? How?
sand has 1.1x?
@Femsell You said 1.5x in the video I'm pretty sure.
a few weeks after the last update i quited ao because there was nothing fun to do so idk if the meta changed but i think shadow is balanced because you got no synergis but i think that having 1.15 attak size is wrong because it doesnt make any sense, it should have 1x attack size
Metagaming is one of the main reasons why I have an aversion to games with pvp. Even though I love AO it really pisses me off that I cant just play my character the way I want because some meta slave is gonna come in with the most OP build and kill me in two seconds because my build is mediocre and focuses more on roleplay vibes than busted gameplay
If Ink magic still existed, I wouldn't have done a Shadow & Poison mage build for my first actual "good guy" play through
And I remember it's damage being .8x, as well as it's size being under 1. Am I just miss-remembering that or did it used to be weaker?
Either way Snow Sucks and being meta is BORING
Legit the only reason I deleted my Shadow Mage save was because I went too fast and didnt grind any loot :skull: like bro I could've just grinded the loot then and there
edit: I also deleted the slot because I just didnt like the way it looked
As someone who mained shadow since the aa days i see this as an absolute win
And uberverse clowns think shadow is not broken 💀
Lmao fr
Well shadow has near perfect stats but status effect is kinda ass
Shadow magic 🔛🔝🐐
what kind of items or things are you using for your ship build?
as a shadow magic mage i hate it
Lets not talk about glass...
cough 220 power without drawback cough cough
abit out of topic here as i am talking about fighting style instead of magic here but
what genuinely gets me is that basic fighting style attack is the equivalent of shadow yet i dont really see people talk about how genuinely good it is
it has no synergy and with enough attack speed you're bound to catch up with anyone
and you can easily reach 200+ damage with shot alone
honestly wish i could have more opinions on shadow as a whole but i rarely see people run it in SG as i join random servers, only pvpers really run it and i barely see any if im joining just random servers
crash and rushdown are kinda clunky at times, and fighting styles generally require more skill than magic. on the other hand, blast + beam spam is way easier and snare is just free dmg, not to mention surge just wins group fights most of the time
@@cocktail-musicmore8530 honestly crash and rushdown has been extremely consistent in distance and surge while useful in group fights, can be terrible during 1v1s
4:03 I said gg 5 times, and they ban me from this stupid game
i use shadow savant cause it matches my oc bruh. now everyone gonna harass me
I was a shadow main since arcane adventures, and incredibly i gave up in that to play warlord and berserker, shadow is a really cool magic and theres no synergies for a reason, its for only people that know how to play.
Anyone can play shadow tho
Its braindead all round perfect magic and you dont have to focus on your second one
What a coincidence, thsi video caeme just when *i lost 200k bounty from a admiral shawdow conjurer*
What a *coincidence*
Is it crabsisbuilding LOL
@@sieg3701 i dunno what is that but imma bet 69 bobux that admiral is using a meta build.
Y’all still care about reputation?
bro got banned for being good 💀
Dang i was considering switching to shadow cuz i feel bad using ash n i kinda like black color more... now shadow prolly gunna be nerfed into the ground 😔
Tell me why tf would it be nerfed at all?? The reason it has good stats is because it doesnt have ANY synergies and debuffs other magics alot, just go for it
@@UmereoMaamiLight also has little to none synergies yet shadow is simply better at everything
Synergies arent as good as having theese pure stats
@@blob6602 Well light has extremely high speed stats it would also be insane if it had so many
Honestly just buff shadow cuz no synergies 😳
Nah the no synergies and dog status keep it somewhat in check
just nerf the stats and bring withering back
Shadow magic makes me edge to skibidi toilet😢😢
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How dare you insult my shadow mage and conjurer files!!!
haha
:3
shadow was too op in AR also if yk
Shadow is a strong magic and it will stay on top if is not a direct nerf against shadow and nothing will make it bad beacuse atk speed gets guted but shadow still got power and size, size can get guted and still is exceling above most of magics. Personally i run explosion since wom, i played out of fun and i made a warlock when ao came out(explosion thermo).I withnessed nerfs that went from 0.95 speed down to 0.8 speed and recent imbue nerf of 0.75 (thank you iron leg explosion) at this point i can run anything better but the issue is not solved by nerfing but by remaking the magic, make it as light, give it self sinergy and nerf his power, size and atk speed by a bit, it will get 5% or 10% self synergy but it will be less stats.
what happened to your accent and cadence, you’re talking like an irishman now 😭
Is shadow hated? Maybe it is becous my (whit a shadow conj.) and my friend (whit a crystal conj.) let 2 guys rage quit yesterday
And i actually dont think its a broken magic, and euhm… what is a good attack speed armor?
@@Snowbal2it is
Shadow outclasses most magics in the game
How? I just dont understand?
I lose in evry pvp (probebly becous im bad but i traind and stil dont win)
Magma> (I am a magma fire mage with 286 attack size and 84 power)
low power tho
Its cuz it has skibidi rizz in ohio fanun tax griddy grimace shake
alright bro.
First
gg
darn im 10 minutes late
F
dang it im not first >:(
F
ill answer the title question, because it black
because im epic
can't tell if you're scottish or english xd
now i'm listening back and it's american this is some schroedingers accent type shi
Sounds like skill issue 😮💨
true
Its beacause only emo boys use it
Why do you talk like an Irishman now
na paper magic better
agree
If only it was still in game