My great grandmother was a survivor of this massacre, she was 13 and a grown man fell on her. Caused permanet damage to her legs. Thank you for telling the truth about the doors.
Thank you for combining your skills as both lawyer and historian to carefully research and present the evidence to support what actually occurred. Well done.
I never heard of the Italian Hall Disaster until I started watching this channel. Thank you, Steve, for telling me the truth before I was led astray by misinformed people.
Good video Steve! I've seen the new marker and try to stop by the memorial once or twice a year when I get to the Keweenaw. The old marker isn't at the memorial anymore but it is sitting in the museum at the old firehouse around the corner.
Although I love listening to many of your topics, I especially love the topic of correcting misinformation in local histories. Please keep up the great work.
Very few people in the world that I would believe anything they say, and definitely only one RUclipsr. After years of watching Steve, one thing I've learned, is that he's always ready to back up what he says with facts.
I’m in Houghton, and have been to the Copper Country Fire Museum and the old marker is on display at that museum with a description that the marker was wrong
You make a good point. The preface to John R Lynch's "The Facts if Reconstruction", published in 1913, says something about history being rewritten to "harmonize with what was believed to be demanded by public sentiment."
Its always better to say the truth about everything so stories don't get misled years after years but luckily the evidence is what corrected the mistake and building codes works when they are done for the better good of the community.
There’s a curious failure of human memory that attaches something to the most famous or most recent or largest. The Chicago story details were probably in the mind of the later author, who then just failed to check. When I was in High School (about 1980) a national rumor started that Wendy’s burgers were juicier because they used worms as a protein additive. Within a few weeks it had transferred over to McDonalds, the industry leader. Of course all three burger chains were soon advertising “Our beef has no protein additives”. No mention of worms on their end. Is it any surprise that false news stories are a thing in the age of infinite access?
There should be no last word on the Italian Hall disaster. The descendants of the mine managers and the Citizen’s Alliance (all local businesses) still rule the Keweenaw. Consider, for instance, “stamp sand” refuge left over from the mining heyday. The Keweenaw’s stamp sands contain toxic heavy metals, including copper, aluminum, arsenic, chromium, cobalt, manganese, nickel, lead, silver and zinc - all at levels that exceed Michigan safety water quality standards. At high levels, copper-laden stamp sands can be harmful to humans. Yet at the behest of lobbyists state environmental law excludes stamp sand from the definition of toxic waste. Stamp sand is now spread over the roads of the Keweenaw and into residential yards, recreational grounds, and state waters.
I think a fictional versions of the Italian Hall Disaster is in the book “It” by Stephen King. That could help explain why the terrifying clown in that story was named Pennywise. The association of Calumet Township with copper mining and the use of copper in pennies is the connection. Cheers
Steve you are the most interesting person that I have ever heard speaking. Your vast knowledge of history, cars and general folklore is amazing. I would to Meet you somtme and dinner will be on me. As long as it can be cooked in a microwave oven. LOL. I would let you pick the restaurant. Disclaimer as long as it's within the continental United States and your, transportation to the restaurant is your, responsibility.
Saying it's pretty sad when you can't get no help at all from law enforcement and and then they wonder why people go out and do they wonder why people shoot at the cops cops only help I mean they're not really there to help you know it's a business now are you a cop but my older brother the one that she was dating before she ever met me or ever got together with me he told me that she was a sheriff him and his fat girlfriend they just got $900,000 of my money but you won't find in her bank account you need to look for her daughter's husband's construction bank account that's where it be hitting
I wondered, first reaction, "What sort of a turd would say something like that?" BUT, I became curious. Population of Calumet, MI as of 2022 census: 694 It appears that close to half the village have watched, liked. Maybe the rest of your family have especially good manners, since someone must have got your share.
My great grandmother was a survivor of this massacre, she was 13 and a grown man fell on her. Caused permanet damage to her legs. Thank you for telling the truth about the doors.
Thank you for combining your skills as both lawyer and historian to carefully research and present the evidence to support what actually occurred. Well done.
I never heard of the Italian Hall Disaster until I started watching this channel.
Thank you, Steve, for telling me the truth before I was led astray by misinformed people.
Steve, BTW, Wikipedia cites you and your book in the article about the Italian Hall disaster, about the doors opening outward.
Cites him refuting they they opened inwards
Good video Steve! I've seen the new marker and try to stop by the memorial once or twice a year when I get to the Keweenaw. The old marker isn't at the memorial anymore but it is sitting in the museum at the old firehouse around the corner.
Although I love listening to many of your topics, I especially love the topic of correcting misinformation in local histories. Please keep up the great work.
Very few people in the world that I would believe anything they say, and definitely only one RUclipsr. After years of watching Steve, one thing I've learned, is that he's always ready to back up what he says with facts.
Some other good RUclipsrs (I’m a fan of Sabine Hossenfelder), but you are correct - far too many self-serving idiots.
I’m in Houghton, and have been to the Copper Country Fire Museum and the old marker is on display at that museum with a description that the marker was wrong
Cool. I was there (at the museum) a couple years ago and the marker was there are the time but it had nothing accompanying it.
I never stopped to think that someone writes those markers.. That's cool you got to edit one!
Cool story good job correcting the state
Kinda makes you wonder about all history
You make a good point. The preface to John R Lynch's "The Facts if Reconstruction", published in 1913, says something about history being rewritten to "harmonize with what was believed to be demanded by public sentiment."
Its always better to say the truth about everything so stories don't get misled years after years but luckily the evidence is what corrected the mistake and building codes works when they are done for the better good of the community.
Fascinating well told story
Thank you, very well done.
As always, Great Video!!
There’s a curious failure of human memory that attaches something to the most famous or most recent or largest. The Chicago story details were probably in the mind of the later author, who then just failed to check.
When I was in High School (about 1980) a national rumor started that Wendy’s burgers were juicier because they used worms as a protein additive. Within a few weeks it had transferred over to McDonalds, the industry leader. Of course all three burger chains were soon advertising “Our beef has no protein additives”. No mention of worms on their end.
Is it any surprise that false news stories are a thing in the age of infinite access?
There should be no last word on the Italian Hall disaster. The descendants of the mine managers and the Citizen’s Alliance (all local businesses) still rule the Keweenaw. Consider, for instance, “stamp sand” refuge left over from the mining heyday. The Keweenaw’s stamp sands contain toxic heavy metals, including copper, aluminum, arsenic, chromium, cobalt, manganese, nickel, lead, silver and zinc - all at levels that exceed Michigan safety water quality standards. At high levels, copper-laden stamp sands can be harmful to humans. Yet at the behest of lobbyists state environmental law excludes stamp sand from the definition of toxic waste. Stamp sand is now spread over the roads of the Keweenaw and into residential yards, recreational grounds, and state waters.
I think a fictional versions of the Italian Hall Disaster is in the book “It” by Stephen King. That could help explain why the terrifying clown in that story was named Pennywise. The association of Calumet Township with copper mining and the use of copper in pennies is the connection. Cheers
Steve you are the most interesting person that I have ever heard speaking. Your vast knowledge of history, cars and general folklore is amazing. I would to Meet you somtme and dinner will be on me. As long as it can be cooked in a microwave oven. LOL. I would let you pick the restaurant.
Disclaimer as long as it's within the continental United States and your, transportation to the restaurant is your, responsibility.
Hi Steve have a great day
Steve, I'm enjoying these videos. Generally your old videos were a bit quiet. Can you increase the dB gain when re-posting future ones?
Turn your volume up ?
@@jeffswanson3740 So you think Hubjeep is too dumb to have tried that already?
Insulting a total stranger isn't funny; it shows your bad character.
But Steve, what you fail to understand is that the doors opened inward jk jk 😂
Naughty, naughty. 😉
Saying it's pretty sad when you can't get no help at all from law enforcement and and then they wonder why people go out and do they wonder why people shoot at the cops cops only help I mean they're not really there to help you know it's a business now are you a cop but my older brother the one that she was dating before she ever met me or ever got together with me he told me that she was a sheriff him and his fat girlfriend they just got $900,000 of my money but you won't find in her bank account you need to look for her daughter's husband's construction bank account that's where it be hitting
Not the final words! Keep talking about it lololol
ben between tucker and 71 car bumper to bumper
Less than 300 likes. I guess it's not the most exciting subject lol
I wondered, first reaction, "What sort of a turd would say something like that?" BUT, I became curious.
Population of Calumet, MI as of 2022 census: 694
It appears that close to half the village have watched, liked.
Maybe the rest of your family have especially good manners, since someone must have got your share.
Might be a reference to the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Hall_disaster which helped make the law that all doors of egress must open outward.