PoliticsJOE reacts to PMQs
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- It was all about Boris Johnson and his dodgy resignation honours list today at PMQs. We ran down to our dungeon at JOE Towers right after the drama to dissect in detail what went down in the House of Commons chamber.
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Yeah im absolutely with Ed. The lords take was bad.
Listening to Ollie trying to justify that Charlotte Owen deserves to be a member of the Lords makes me think this pubcast has already jumped the shark.
Wow I finally looked up the meaning of this expression and you are spot on! It has gone full Partridge already, indeed…is this like a universal law or something?
They probably need to stop drinking at lunchtime
what you're saying is "oh wow, an opinion I disagree with", is it interesting only listening to stuff you 100% agree with? Seems boring to me.
@@crayontom9687 Agreed
@@kiriakoz I'll quote a comment *you wrote* regarding this... "he might've been arguing for debates sake? I dunno, otherwise it's mental".Am happy to listen to different opinions but not when it is backed by ridiculous reasoning.
I’ve never heard a worse take that some kid who did a 2 week’s work experience getting pissed at illegal parties getting into the Lords is deserved
you took he words out of me ears , cheers
Same, that shocked me a bit. £100 a day for the rest of her 70 odd years should be paid to this person for happening to have a job in downing street during covid? What??
The more I listen to this the more I'm convinced Oli doesn't actually know what a Lord does...
Gotta agree, massive lack of experience
@@johnmarrs9823out of your ears?
I'm a Registered Nurse working on an admission unit and did during covid. I slogged far harder than she ever did during those months she was at number 10. I don't see a peerage coming my way. In fact all I see is worse conditions, harder work and less resources coming towards the NHS. That take was utter garbage.
Starmer didn't have to waste the remaining five questions arguing about Johnsons honours list but I do give a shit about that honours list. It's another slap in the face and it's another example of yet more self serving cronyism. Its particularly offensive that a young woman, who was essentially a temp for an incredibly brief period in the most chaotic and corrupt Government, has now been elevated to a prestigious position for life without ever having earned it, its infuriating.
Yup, was looking forward to this PMQs as there was so much potential material to go over, but Keir wasted most of it. And yeah, not caring about the honours cronyism is inexplicable.
Many of us do give"give a shit" about the honours list. It's a slap in the face & us the tax payer pays for their unelected time.
Ollie, I can't believe you're so relaxed about Charlotte Owen being elevated to the Lords! Of course her age is relevant, what experience and 'wisdom' can she bring? A lifetime peerage, ie, overseeing our laws, sorry but it's disgraceful.
Who did she catch? What were they doing? Who cannot find out?
It's the only explanation.
@Peter Robinson normally he has fairly good takes imo and he’s quite entertaining, but agree that was a ridiculously dumb take on it.
There's plenty of aged people that have questionable experience and an obvious lack of wisdom... I agree that this girl doesn't deserve a lordship and it sounds suspicious coming from Johnson.
Ollie is disgraceful
So you seem to think there is presently wisdom in the House of Lords , you may be correct but wot has age got to do with it , as for disgraceful , it is no more disgraceful than the very existence of the House of Lords in 2023
This podcast is absolutely insane, whoever edits this is genuinely unhinged for leaving some of this stuff in. It's great keep it up!
They didnt 'leave it in' this seemed more involved...almost like they "thumbed it in"
I love how they say "we'll edit this out" and then they just put it in anyway. I want to know what actually gets cut out now haha
I’m with Ed, set a high bar for peerages
I mean it doesn't even need to be said, yeah. How is this a topic of debate??
my god acting at 10:50 like being in the Lords, as a legislature, is not really any different to being an employee in Downing Street because "they're both making laws" is just...no they're not "both making laws" this is so braindead. Being employed by an MP is not the same as being an MP just because both technically work in politics. So much of this felt like disingenuous pedantry.
Ollie is 100% one of those redditors…fits the type exactly!
No Starmer isn't accusing the civil service of being incompetent its the fact that yet again the tories are blatantly helping their mates...
Oli's take on Charlotte Owen is his origin story of becoming a super villian/Tory.
They’re completely wrong to equate Starmer’s knighthood to Johnson appointing his political allies to the lords. One is an award for recognising public service and the other is giving your mate a paid job for life.
The dismissal towards Ed when his Charlotte Owen take is absolutely correct. Crikey.
Yeah, made Ollie look like a twat.
I agree with Ed 'The Golden Boy' Campbell. The conservative brand is over. In the public consiousness a 'young tory' is pretty much an oxymoron. People are catching on that they can change the face but it's still the same beast.
I also agree with Ed: “I like Steven Flynn’s big bald heid”.
"You'd have to thumb that one in ... " ... This podcast should have 5 million subscribers if voters knew what was good for them. Greetings from Prague, CZ
Agree with Ed on the honours list. Think you guys are sometimes a bit blinded by your dislike of Starmer.
IRK they’re so anti-starmer it’s like traditional media’s being against the Labour Party
Ava, thank you for so perfectly articulating what happens to women, how we are shamed and silenced from reporting sexual harassment & rape. In other workplaces too, it happens all the time, even away from bars and booze. Sorry Ed, It’s not unique, abusers will use any power over ppl in any situations they can.
Also to be fair guys, reacting as tho dickpics are taboo/a joke, when your coworker is getting unsolicited explicit photos sent to her personal phone daily it seems, really underplayed this intrusive harassment. Esp going straight into Ava saying her recollection of being assaulted already had other men in the comments calling her a ‘liar’ ‘attention seeker’ etc. You must be supportive of her even if she’s dealing w it so well bc she’s taking that intrusion from men, where you don’t have to, for doing the same job.
Dr Sarah Wollaston raised the issues of the culture of harassment at Westminster. She lost her seat and was not supported.
If Charlotte Owen should get a peerage, then so should every keyworker - who did a hell of a lot more then her. She's otherwise Boris' daughter or some other reason as to why she can blackmail Boris Johnson
So true. My husband has worked over 100 hours per week as a consultant since 2020. Now with catch up lists and covering sick colleagues or the 12 unfilled consultant posts in his department. He worked nearly every weekend during the worst of the pandemic including on the COVID wards if his department did not need him to cover. Fuck the fucking criminal murderous Tories!
Given we have zero idea of how many sprogs he has fathered, we need to see a picture.
Has someone spiked the pints this week?
Agree. This episode was just not good enough unfortunately. Poor form.
How would that even work?
Thank you Ava, it's not a laughing matter but if you point and laugh they usually go away.
This podcast really has become my highlight of the day, mainly due to Ava's railroading of the whole thing by talking about dick pics or other general innapropriate content. Please keep this up, it's completely apt for the current state of our governing peers.
Shami Chakrabarti? Is he for real? She deserved her peerage hands down.
A member of the Labour Party, she served as the director of Liberty, a major advocacy group which promotes civil liberties and human rights, from 2003 to 2016.
That's why they hate her.
@@cdean2789 Yeah, but was she Boris Johnson's hairdresser? Thought not!
@@cdean2789 Thanks, I already knew that.
Fucking hell Oli! Owen should not be anywhere near the House of Lords. She probably got her internship by her Dad knowing a Tory minister and then got her "adviser" role because Johnson fancied her.
Who thinks her pearage is to keep her mouth shut ..... Ya know Boris and Women ?
Honours should be given to community leaders and volunteers who help others get through the cost of living crisis.
I think you mean "The bar should be set higher," not 'the barrier". But I approve the thought.
“We’ll bleep it out, don’t worry”
“I was gonna say ‘cunted’”
😂😂 you guys really seem like you have so much fun doing this.
The House of Hypocrites. Wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.
Has anyone else noticed the similarities between Charlotte Owen and Jennifer Arcuri, one has to wonder what special services she offered to Johnson to be nominated for a Life Peerage.
perhaps some of the younger persons put forward for honours paid lip service to boris in the office
Is she the one Gavin Williamson walked in on?!
Brilliant
@@acolli777 Oh that's a good question! They certainly invite the question and do themselves no favours…
The honours stuff is rather frustrating to be wasting PMQ questions on.
I much rather the skyrocketing mortgages/rents, food etc etc
Exactly, the mortgages thing is a total impending disaster, and I say that as an insecure renter. Whilst I am used to insecure housing I certainly don't want my landlord selling, again…!
I think the mortgages crisis will finally awaken the country from its apathy…perhaps including Starmer.
@@unthenner5519 I'm in a fortunate position regarding housing. However, trying to move from a small flat to a small house is basically impossible. I tried moving a couple of years ago and it fell through. I would have had a fixed rate mortgage of £700. If I was to try to make the same purchase now the monthly mortgage payments fixed would be £1400 to £1500, and rates are rising again!
That also ignores the massive jump in house prices. I'm now stuck waiting for the housing market bubble to burst.
I feel bad for renters. In my area you could rent a 2 bed flat for £600 5 years ago.... Rent prices in my area have more than doubled. I really don't know how people are coping.
If you overlook the agregious take on the house of lords this is still pretty funny
Politics Joe is the leader of the opposition to the leader of the opposition. Literally always focused on opposing Starmer. Whose side are you on??
They’ll all be fine with a Tory win unlike the rest of us. Comfy jobs making content criticising the government and Labour.
Why do they have to be on anyone’s side???
@@joex2004uk I totally agree they don't have to be on anyone's side but half the time they're not even honest about what Starmer has said and done. There are genuine reasons for criticizing Starmer as there is any and all politicians but spending the opening segment of a pubcast the other week going on about how out of touch Starmer is after they misquoted what he said (the £9000 deposit thing after Starmer said £9000 more) is a bit ridiculous.
@@addazarmy6826 Yup
@@joex2004uk They should be on the listener's side who want an objective discussion
The barrier to bring a sitting member of the House of Lords should be a demonstrable body of employment experience to support you bring able to scrutinise laws being proposed. It's appallingly bad to use a peerage as a thank you for doing allow level administrative job
Westminister was formed as a form of Gentleman's club. The fact there are bars is stupid. In most jobs being drunk ( or even partially) at your place of work would get you dismissed. Close the bars.
Why is the impact of interest rates on people paying rent always ignored.
Mortgages go down when rates go down, rents never go down.
Because Labour are just as obsessed with home ownership as the Tories. Basically if you rent you are scum
Because most Tories have own property/ are landlords. It's not in their interest to fix the rental market
@@allykat100 I totally agree why Tory MP's don't care but it feels to me that those commentating should call them out. I would expect to hear that challenge consistently on PoliticsJoe.
I understand Ollie's trolling because the Lords are essentially bs, but I think he's forgetting this is being put out as a podcast/RUclips? It's not good listening - strong finish though
Johnson should not get a leaving honours list. He should be in prison!
By Ollie's weird definition of public service worthy of a life peerage, any temp that made tea in number 10 should get one whilst all healthcare workers, emergency services workers, and all the other people who are actually essential to the functioning of our society don't make the bar lol
I would ask Starmer if HE was so tough why did the Labour party abstain on the protest bill?
5 seconds spent on everyone acknowledging that grenfell was a tragedy and most importantly is still yet to see justice for the victims. The rest of it spend on who made the list, who made it into the cool night club. Especially coming from this idiot Keir WHO WAS A PROSECUTOR. His job as a prosecutor, and his stance is, oh, 6 years later no justice for the victims, what can you do. how about you dedicate some time on dealing with that personally since your previous job was that of A PROSECUTOR.
Keir Starmer is trying to create the mood that the Conservative party is doing what we in the US would refer to with the idiom that "Nero fiddled (while Rome burned)." That is to say, the people are suffering (or have serious problems) and the government is doing nothing to help, maybe even maliciously (it was rumored that Nero wanted to build a huge new palace on what had been occupied land, which burnt down in the fire; this is probably untrue, but the metaphor still stands).
The PoliticsJOE podcast, discussing the body politic.
Don't know about anyone else but I'd watch/listen to a regular podcast of just Oli Ava and Ed chatting about normal stuff instead of politics, they just have decent banter.
Jesus Christ this is utterly painful.
It seems to be forgotten that Sunak was also fined for Partygate.
I worked for the DWP in 2005 where's my peerage????!!!!!
As long as you have a house of lords, you don't have a democracy - you literally have an oligarchy as you have one person helping to define the future of your government based on their own personal preferences.
Such a fun podcast to watch again, crying of laughter watching you rinse each other!
Yes, believing the victims is key!
No alcohol, yes!
Also declaring an interest and not voting if you have one eg landlord, director etc.
Luv your channel, intelligent conversation, thanks.
29:44 The look of horror on Oli's face followed by "It's so hairy" was amazing
Suank and Starmer collide....Like two pieces of plywood gluing together
I think any kind of honour system can't be dismissed so long as it is merit based and has oversight. I don't understand why it should necessarily be a qualification for membership to the political hierarchy in the form of the House of Lords, nor will I ever think it's appropriate for anyone to provide an honour to their hairdresser, even though keeping Boris Johnson still would be akin to subduing a horny otter !!
"The economy is so cunted" i need this on a teeshirt 😅
Love Ed losing the plot on HoL.... I would've done the same
31:14 "Can't put this on RUclips". And yet, thankfully, here we are :)
the convention for honours should be scrapped, the people should award honours not politicians rewarding there pals...
That is at least a Labour policy right now
Just proves reform of the Lords is over-due.
The whole honours/House of Lords system is flawed. Checks and balances, a second chamber, I get the value of that. But tying it to this archaic notion of knighthoods and government honours leaves us open to so much arcane tradition and corruption.
I love that you did put this on RUclips without editing out all the funniest bits.
We're waiting out here for a serious reflection on the news, whether it's PMQs or anything else, not childish antics like someone just scored for your local team.
Keep it real guys! If you want to be taken seriously then act seriously.
Is it true that there are over 30 bars in the palace of Westminster?😵💫
A novel verse form, the one-line limerick -
"There was a young lady called Charlotte."
Out of curiosity, was she head girl at school?
I like Steven Flynn’s “big bald heid” as well, Ed.
31:23 that sounds like just about every teacher I’ve ever had when they’re upset lol
Charlotte is BoJo's Lewinsky.
This episode made me thumb into being a fan of the channel
Looking forward to this pubcast. I really like listening to pseudo intellectuals swear like vicky pollard like literally like ermm like like ermm like literally like like errrmm
This
'post your doves not your elves' - genius
“Dubs not your Ls” as in wins not losses
@@hoisinholdup I know! an - albeit poor -attempt at irony...
Love this podcast - keep it coming 🤣
Sorry, "thumb that one in". High quality observational humour
"I caught a cold at the Labour Conference. I think I drank too much on the first night" ... So in future, when Ava is sick, we'll see "Ava Santina is unwell"
Its one thing to argue "there are bigger issues" and quite another to justify any peerage awarded by Johnson. His tenure was a slew of sleaze and corruption, and his last honours list laid that bare. Not really surprised by Ava, a little by Oli though
"Fucking clearly !" ... ha ha, that has my OJ all over my t-shirt ha ha
Does Joe have an editor?? Where can I apply!?
Thumb that one in........class
I think the beers are VERY needed lol
We need fair rent regulations
What Ava said that our culture and public mindset needs to change. Why is it that many think a person or victim is more likely to lie about being SA than a person is to lie about not doing it. If anyone is more likely to lie or has a better incentive to lie it is the person accused of a moral and legal crime. Likewise given they probably did SA someone, they would lie. Yet we give them the benefit of the doubt and the whole 'innocent before guilty' instead of supporting victims and survivors who have no reason and no gain to lie or speak out.
Wouldn't it be great if, in the future, it comes out that Bojo didn't put Nadders forward for a peerage 😂
I normally like PoliticsJOE content but this is all over the place
Best episode yet 🎉
Excellent episode.
Came from listening to the podcast on another platform to say I also have weird views on the Lords!!
In a sentence: Put a ceiling on the numbers and it’ll work.
Then it’ll give you a long term rolling average of the interests of the executive over time, small c conservative bloc, chesterton’s fencing everything. Would make just a lovely organic check and balance on democracy.
Otherwise I vote as left as I can.
love podcast hate nonsense it's the politics joke podcast ladies and gentlemen
Is charolt owen, bojos kid by any chance?
Can't stand conspiracy theories, but I do admit I really wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, based on the demonstrable evidence of his behaviour to date...
Maybe I should review these ******s uncensored...
I wonder what has the lowest bar: things edited out of a PJ Pubcast or receiving a peerage.
I need to stop watching this channel - absolutely unhinged that you don’t have a problem with Charlotte Owen getting a peerage
this is one of ur funniest episodes
Yay PMQ's 🙄...
Plot twist, is charlotte owen oli's new wife and thats why hes defending her peerage? Thats the only way his take would make any kind of sense
👍that one up
It has not gone too far, the senders of the Richard Portraits definitely did though
Ava, millenials do not share conservative views. The are different on the environment, family make-up and society.
WtF is a PMQ?
Damn Limeys.
Father sets up daughter in the family business. Nothing unusual about it.
Sod the Lords, solidarity with Ed 😅! Also, nothing wrong with the podcast format, keep it wild 🤘
I thought the idea of Ed being Alastair Campbell's love child was a weird one, surely that would be an easy way to condemn a ginger !! I think it's more likely he is Peter Murrell's love child and the high end camper van was for an attempt at mending fences......