If you manage to get your grail piece, as your first watch. You're done. One watch collection. That's how its been for me, even if i bought other pieces, they'd never stack up to your grail
Five favorite Rolex’s in and I thought I was done, all acquired gray market because mostly higher end and not entry level, so now trying for an Explorer 1 and OP 36 Turquoise, still difficult, I have visited four local AD’s in LA area in the last month and going to try and be patient and hope to finally acquire with the AD and establish a relationship, hoping to finally have that experience, appreciate your channel!
Great video. I walked right into an AD and bought a 16710 GMT 2 in 1995. In 2007 I bought a new 116710LN and got a 10% discount for paying cash! They actually had three in the display case. My goodness how times have changed.
This is how I got my first Rolex, (Granted, my Rolex A.D. probably serves the smallest municipality in the country) I'd pop my head in about once a month and smile and flirt a little bit with the sales ladies and talk about the Rolex movements and talk about how beautiful and proportional the Explorer is and how it is my dream watch. 2 1/2 weeks later I got the phone call. Love my Explorer.
AD's "relationship building" mostly means buying stuff that no one else wants first, such as the date and then they may honour you by letting you wait on their list, and to progress up the list, by buying some more stuff and then they may finally sell you a Rolex, but want to keep the papers, for the watch you've waited for 3+years you own Brilliant marketing company
Great video. I have 3 Rolexes - a datejust, explorer, and a Daytona - all in steel. They are great, and are worn not an investment. The Datejust was straightforward, walked into an AD, it was in stock and purchased in a few minutes. At this point I had no idea how the market worked and how difficult some are to find. Once I came to buy the Explorer things got difficult, and the market situation became clear. I got one pretty quickly by chance, passing through a large airport I popped into the Rolex shop on the off chance and there it was. They had one in stock and it had arrived the day before. Pure luck. The Daytona was impossible, rarer than hen’s teeth. I visited over ten AD’s to ask about waiting lists and was even laughed at in 2 or 3 of them. Others quoted 7+ years. I turned to the grey market, got a brand new one, and at a reasonable premium. If you want it and can pay the extra to get it quickly, this is the way to go on selected models.
You have the perfect collection in many people's eyes there and no one would blame you for going grey to add that Daytona to the collection. No doubt the investment will already have risen beyond the price you paid, so you will have bought well. I was quoted 2-3 years for an Explorer 1 today by an AD - the Rolex madness will never end.
@@TheChapsGuide thanks Ash, it’s the collection I set out to build after more research than I’ve ever put into a work project ! As we are not travelling a lot due to covid, airports aren’t as good an option as they used to be. Different styles sell in different regions - for example, in the Middle East everyone wants gold and wouldn’t look twice at steel. That leaves options for those of us who will take it. Once travel opens up the major airports (Dubai, Heathrow etc.) can be an option but it’s still luck.
I couldn't be arsed with wait lists, buying stuff I don't want etc so i bit the bullet and went to the gray market and bought my Datejust and two tone Submariner. Paid over retail but what heck .
Great video, as always! I recently got a new and well paid job. Now I am actually looking into buying my first luxury watch. But I gravitate more towards a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms or Louis Cartier. Though, Rolex is stunning too. About criminal intents, in the capital city of my federal state in Germany, just a week ago two Rolex watches were snitched off of two pedestrians, on a Thursday afternoon and in broad daylight. So that's that.
This is a follow up on a reply I made to this video about 8 months ago. I went to my local Rolex A.D. They also sell Omega, Tudor, Breitling etc. I have visited them a couple of times and talked to them about my next purchase at their store, which will be an Omega Speedmaster. I already own an Omega Seamaster that I have owned for about 5 years, and I make sure to wear my Seamaster everytime I go there. Every time I have also mentioned that my next major purchase will hopefully be a Steel Submariner without the date function. This is part of my goal to make them see that I really want the Submariner and that I don't intend to sell it after I purchase it. So today we talked about watch flippers vs. people who really love watches and about how I intend to hopefully pass my watches on to my nephews. We had a nice honest talk about developing a puchase history with the A.D. and we talked about when the Submariner will be available to me. I like the thought that I have moved a step or two closer to aquiring a steel Submariner.
Fingers crossed for you sir. I hear there is some movement in the market due to the loss of Russia as a retail outlet, so I hope your dream watch will be along soon.
There is no such thing as a waitlist. Infact ADs call them registration of interest as waitlist implies you will get one after waiting. You are highly unlikely to be allocated a professional in steel for your first. Great video though, definitely earned an additional subscriber!
Hey bro I got a call from the dealer. You think a milgauss or Batman is the better investment ? Sorry I didn’t mean investment what I meant to say was gamble Much love
Simple way to build your relationship with the local AD is to purchase a lot of smaller gifts from them.... birthdays, valentines day, mothers day, Christmas, Easter and what have you. You don't have to spend a fortune and if all your looking to get is one watch this can work very well. Even if you don't have a huge spend history they will see a long track records of you being a customer. Tie the watch into a big life event and let them know about it. Great comment about it being addictive..... I'm 4 deep at this point with plans for acquiring my 5th. Ha!
That is a really great idea. They make a great profit on all jewelry and if they think they will gain your custom going forwards, they are highly likely to look after you.
The limiting of products to the market is also something debeers does with diamonds. Keeping the price up. Also must agree that it is something we don't need but want. The paradox of value thing. Good video. Cheers Ron
Thanks for the informative video Ash! I am currently enjoying a seiko skx013, a swatch automatic jellyfish, and a 1954 omega seamaster, I am definitely hoping to invest in a Rolex explorer 5500 for my 40th in eight years time. I love watches, but see the value in taking the time in accruing a collection, especially compared to shoes and tailoring etc...
Excellent, excellent video Ash, and definitely thanking you and for sure a thumbs up 👍🏼! You really explained the Rolex experience quite well, except for the fact that you mentioned Rolex just doesn’t sell to anyone, because I actually did work for the largest Swiss watch Retailer I’m the USA 🇺🇸 in the early 2000’s and we would sell Rolex to anyone, but again who knows if our prior clients resold them and many I think did, but yes the factor of discounts is real, this can have Rolex pull their line from your company and definitely ruin the integrity itself of the timepiece. I just purchased myself a few days ago a very unique Tissot V8 Swissmatic, which was very satisfying. How would you feel on doing a review on the entry level into the world of Swiss timepieces….. The Tissot for example……….? Might be perhaps a great 😊 viewership, as you always give great options on Menswear from many angles, such as when you spoke about CT Shirts and TM Lewin, which are exceptional and I’m a fan of, which I have personally experienced and worn and have great quality 💎
Great video Ash. As you know I also have the GMT "Rootbeer" and just love it. However you're right about getting bitten by the bug. I'm on the waiting list for the new Sub date and a GMT Pepsi. My AD is hopeful that the sub will come in this year and the Pepsi next year. Fingers crossed. I'd also love the full gold Bluesy but it's just a little bit too much money. Keep up the great content! 😊
@@joshuaashton856 not sure I understand. I don't need to play games. My AD has delivered on the previous two professional sports models that I've requested (a BLNR Batman and the CHNR Rootbeer) in a timely fashion. I also get my other watches serviced with them and have purchased other brands such as IWC through the same AD. I'm a collector not a flipper and am treated well 😊
Day date models are less sort after generally due to the fact they all only available in precious metals and hence have a hefty price tag. You should be able to source a DD in most AD outlets with some minor waiting. I personally love the DD and think they are a classic piece.
The thing that puts me off from rolex crap is that they chose what should i get and what should i dont get !! To me unfortunately nowadays the rolex just seems to be too pretentious, and the only model i want is 36mm black dial oyster perpetual! Even this has waiting list and selling overlist!!
It is an unusual and grating experience, but that is all part of the Rolex game and adds to the satisfaction of the feeling of success when you finally score that model you have always wanted.
Several more things to think about. Long term ownership costs, i.e. service and repair costs-- somewhat costly. Rolex wants you to use their service centers for repair and maintenance, and not watchmakers outside their network. Historically, the Explorer 1 design came after the 1953 Everest expedition, with Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay. They used Smiths wristwatches and a Rolex model that was a precursor to the Explorer 1, which had a different dial design. Ian Fleming/James Bond aficionados found that Ian Fleming wore an Explorer 1 as his personal wristwatch. According to one reference, Fleming's stepdaughter found it in a safe deposit box after her mother passed away. It's believed the literary (not film) Bond's Rolex described in the novel "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" as a "...heavy Rolex Oyster Perpetual on an expanding metal bracelet..." was an Explorer 1. Another purchasing consideration is the lack of a date function on some of the Rolex models (Explorer 1, for example). It's a very expensive luxury item for time only.
I only have one luxury watch, and that is my Omega Seamaster. I am going to my A. D. next week to and I will be talking to them about my desire to own a Submariner. I will be explaining to them that I am saving up for one, but I don't want to be put on a list yet, since I don't have the money yet. But when I have I will be asking them to put put me on a list for a steel Submariner. I don't know if that is a good or bad way to do it, but I don't want to seem impulsive and I hope honesty will help.
It is a great idea to begin a friendly relationship with an AD as soon as possible, this can only have a positive outcome. The current 'wait list' (if there is such a thing in all reality) for a Sub is likely to be counted in years, opposed to a few months, so if I were you, I would seek to get on their radar as soon as possible and maintain that relationship with regular chats and drop-ins to prove that you are a genuine customer. Remember, it's all about the human interaction at the moment when it comes to the purchase of a watch - good luck sir.
@@TheChapsGuide Thank you very much for the quick reply. I plan to add both the Submariner and the Omega Speedmaster to my collection. And to let them know that I plan to buy both watches at their store.
When I bought my first and only luxury watch I bought an IWC Pilots watch because I did not want a Rolex - everyone had a Rolex and I didn't want to be like everyone. Never regretted it, I've had so many compliments and several people have asked to buy it as my silver Spitfire model has not been available for over 10 years. Had I gone for Rolex, the Datejust and Explorer are nice looking watches but the Submariner (the most coveted) is plain ugly.
Thanks for the great vid. Im after a Daytona white face two tone for my 50th next year but after watching many RUclips videos I think I'm going to be very disappointed. I'm in Australia and I don't know how the supply and demand is here. There is a very nice boutique in Adelaide city that sells very high end watches only so will be taking a visit there soon. Will buy a date just this year to see if that helps to get on the list. Maybe one for the wife to.
To be honest, if you are serious about getting a Daytona and prepared to purchase 2 expensive pieces in order to possibly get a good spot on a waiting list, you will alm ost certainly be better off going grey market and buying a Daytona from a watch dealer. Whilst this is likely to cost at least 50% more than RRP, it will certainly be cheaper than buying 2 pieces in the hope that you may be able to obtain the watch you actually want in the future. The 2 tone Daytona retails for £14K new in the UK, but a grey market option may be upwards of £18 - £20k, but can be achieved immediately. Worth considering before you commit to buying other watches, which, in most cases, are unlikely to unlock a Daytona.
@@TheChapsGuide. Fair point and I have seen a few here on the grey market for about $32k upwards. New rrp is $24,600. I hoping once this horrible covid settles down Rolexs production might pick up slightly and help others get their prefered watch easier. Only time will tell. I do like the date just steel and white gold blue face so was thinking to get that for my 49th coming soon. Nice starter watch.
@@KC14109 I agree with Ash, I doubt 2 Datejust will unlock a Daytona even if its 2 tone. The ladies Datejust will unlock the blue dial Datejust that you like and that's about it as its going for slightly above retail in the pre-owned market. The current market for steel and full precious metals Daytona is thru the roof and the 2 tone is creeping up in price as it just do not make sense that the steel Daytona cost much more than the 2 tone currently. If you really like the 2 tone I suggest getting it sooner than later in grey or pre-owned market.
I am afraid those Rolex watches may be quality but not for me .I reckon a chap should be seen to wear a more elegant timepiece that has a Swiss movement contained in a watch as thin as an old penny piece .Those Rolex are rather somewhat bulky in appearance not the sort of wrist watch one would feel comfortable with whist wearing a bespoke suit in polite company such as a chap would often find oneself old chap 🧐
I disagree, some models are rather bulky like the explorer 2, deep sea, yachmaster 2, but there are a lot of other pieces from the catalog that look very elegant dressed up, such as the Daytona (which is relatively slim and flat) and the 36 mm Datejusts (Ash’s model in the video) or Day-Dates. I have a Daytona ceramic and a Pepsi jubilee and they wear incredibly well with formal shirts and jackets, the Submariner is the maximum size I would go to wear with formal clothing. I can honestly tell you that the Daytona is really the best all around watch in the world, it does everything so well, it’s sporty and very resistant to wear and tear thanks to the ceramic bezel, oystersteel material, 100 meters water resistance and shock resistant components in the movement, it’s slim and elegant with classic proportions, it’s relatively cheap to service and easy to bring back to new with a polish if you want to in the future. All of this makes it a superior watch to the Nautilus and Royal Oak in steel and it also doesn’t cost a used Ferrari like those other 2. The Daytona is the perfect one watch collection and this is the reason why it’s so valued by collectors and aficionados.
They do certainly have a chunky profile, which is at odds to the more traditional gents timepiece. I do favour the Datejust, which is the most classical of the Rolex pieces for formal wear. But I do indeed understand your point.
@@TheChapsGuide I suppose it’s a matter for a chaps personal choice ,my late father always wore wafer thin watches ,My mothers father repaired & serviced watches as a life time hobby .I remember him having several hanging up on test after adjusting the regulators .A lot of my old wealthy clients sported Rolex’s .
@@teakcore5261 I suppose it’s a matter of ones personal taste ,but I only wear bulkier watches that I don’t mind getting scratched & bashed up when partaking in things like Fishing & shooting.
Rolex make great watches, but - as alluded to - they are surrounded by hype and are overpriced. If you've been bitten by the bug (like so many of us), then only buying Rolex is a fools errand. Scratch the itch and get a Rolex, but then look wider. There are so many watches out there with better heritage, better movements and mechanics, and far better value. The only thing Rolex really wins at is marketing. Don't limit yourself to one over-hyped brand!
@@BLR653 I have no plans to sell my watches. So value retention is less important to me than purchase price. Depreciation only matters if you buy things you don't intend to keep.
You just walk into your rolex AD and buy one don't you?....... That's exactly what a did in the early 1980s..... I brought 3 Rolexs from ZALES jewellers in Chesterfield derbyshire they had a Rolex display in the window.... So I choose a non date submariner, a gmt master, and an Air King all together... Simple... Now you couldn't do that now.... Why???... Because Rolex deliberately hold units back..... The way this company treats watch buyers is disgraceful... Mmmmm Luxury watch.... Why no Luxury box? .... Imatation Leather... Poor Rolex very poor.... And guys like anything when you've worn a Rolex a few times it feels no different to any other watch the novelty soon wears off trust me.... I've been there myself.... I'll stick to my favourite brand Eterna.... 👍
Hi Grandpa Ash, The majority of what you have explained to getting your wrinkly wrist a Rolex are as ancient as your ‘attire’. For instance the OP range released, basically drained all the silly looking colours sold out from ADs @ retail , yet there are over 100,000 of these pieces available on the grey market. This is no fault of Rolex, they made more than enough watches, being a mass production watch company. 1 million +Rolex watched were made in 2021. This is no fault of Rolex it is the fault of the grey dealers the grey dealers who control the market value. In short, there are plenty of Rolex’s, they are just in the wrong hands.
If you manage to get your grail piece, as your first watch. You're done. One watch collection. That's how its been for me, even if i bought other pieces, they'd never stack up to your grail
Five favorite Rolex’s in and I thought I was done, all acquired gray market because mostly higher end and not entry level, so now trying for an Explorer 1 and OP 36 Turquoise, still difficult, I have visited four local AD’s in LA area in the last month and going to try and be patient and hope to finally acquire with the AD and establish a relationship, hoping to finally have that experience, appreciate your channel!
Great video. I walked right into an AD and bought a 16710 GMT 2 in 1995. In 2007 I bought a new 116710LN and got a 10% discount for paying cash! They actually had three in the display case. My goodness how times have changed.
Exactly my Rolex buying experience. Luckily, I hit the top of the waiting-list and will be taking up mine from my authorized dealer tomorrow.
I really enjoyed this video. Nice to see someone navigating the Rolex climate that we are in.
Just the video I needed to see in order to reinvigorate my pursuit of a professional range Rolex 😅 Very well articulated chap!
This is how I got my first Rolex, (Granted, my Rolex A.D. probably serves the smallest municipality in the country) I'd pop my head in about once a month and smile and flirt a little bit with the sales ladies and talk about the Rolex movements and talk about how beautiful and proportional the Explorer is and how it is my dream watch. 2 1/2 weeks later I got the phone call. Love my Explorer.
AD's "relationship building" mostly means buying stuff that no one else wants first, such as the date and then they may honour you by letting you wait on their list, and to progress up the list, by buying some more stuff and then they may finally sell you a Rolex, but want to keep the papers, for the watch you've waited for 3+years you own Brilliant marketing company
Great video.
I have 3 Rolexes - a datejust, explorer, and a Daytona - all in steel. They are great, and are worn not an investment. The Datejust was straightforward, walked into an AD, it was in stock and purchased in a few minutes. At this point I had no idea how the market worked and how difficult some are to find.
Once I came to buy the Explorer things got difficult, and the market situation became clear. I got one pretty quickly by chance, passing through a large airport I popped into the Rolex shop on the off chance and there it was. They had one in stock and it had arrived the day before. Pure luck.
The Daytona was impossible, rarer than hen’s teeth. I visited over ten AD’s to ask about waiting lists and was even laughed at in 2 or 3 of them. Others quoted 7+ years. I turned to the grey market, got a brand new one, and at a reasonable premium. If you want it and can pay the extra to get it quickly, this is the way to go on selected models.
You have the perfect collection in many people's eyes there and no one would blame you for going grey to add that Daytona to the collection. No doubt the investment will already have risen beyond the price you paid, so you will have bought well. I was quoted 2-3 years for an Explorer 1 today by an AD - the Rolex madness will never end.
@@TheChapsGuide thanks Ash, it’s the collection I set out to build after more research than I’ve ever put into a work project ! As we are not travelling a lot due to covid, airports aren’t as good an option as they used to be. Different styles sell in different regions - for example, in the Middle East everyone wants gold and wouldn’t look twice at steel. That leaves options for those of us who will take it. Once travel opens up the major airports (Dubai, Heathrow etc.) can be an option but it’s still luck.
I couldn't be arsed with wait lists, buying stuff I don't want etc so i bit the bullet and went to the gray market and bought my Datejust and two tone Submariner. Paid over retail but what heck .
I have one Rolex DateJust two tone and now going for 2nd, saving more money and waiting for next one .. hopefully soon 😊
Most who buy Rolexes do so to impress others. The true enthusiast makes the purchase to impress himself.
Great video! I've watched now a few of yours.
I will probably get the root beer within a year or so.
Great video, as always! I recently got a new and well paid job. Now I am actually looking into buying my first luxury watch. But I gravitate more towards a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms or Louis Cartier. Though, Rolex is stunning too. About criminal intents, in the capital city of my federal state in Germany, just a week ago two Rolex watches were snitched off of two pedestrians, on a Thursday afternoon and in broad daylight. So that's that.
The Blancpain 50 is an excellent watch that actually predates the Submariner as the first widely available dive piece. A great choice.
This is a follow up on a reply I made to this video about 8 months ago. I went to my local Rolex A.D. They also sell Omega, Tudor, Breitling etc.
I have visited them a couple of times and talked to them about my next purchase at their store, which will be an Omega Speedmaster. I already own an Omega Seamaster that I have owned for about 5 years, and I make sure to wear my Seamaster everytime I go there. Every time I have also mentioned that my next major purchase will hopefully be a Steel Submariner without the date function.
This is part of my goal to make them see that I really want the Submariner and that I don't intend to sell it after I purchase it. So today we talked about watch flippers vs. people who really love watches and about how I intend to hopefully pass my watches on to my nephews. We had a nice honest talk about developing a puchase history with the A.D. and we talked about when the Submariner will be available to me.
I like the thought that I have moved a step or two closer to aquiring a steel Submariner.
Fingers crossed for you sir. I hear there is some movement in the market due to the loss of Russia as a retail outlet, so I hope your dream watch will be along soon.
There is no such thing as a waitlist. Infact ADs call them registration of interest as waitlist implies you will get one after waiting. You are highly unlikely to be allocated a professional in steel for your first. Great video though, definitely earned an additional subscriber!
Great video and brilliant advice. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video!
I'm an Omega man myself, a little more modern looking and the 007 link too.
Really enjoyed listening to this
Hey bro I got a call from the dealer. You think a milgauss or Batman is the better investment ?
Sorry I didn’t mean investment what I meant to say was gamble
Much love
Batman.
@@TheChapsGuide Batman or date sub?
@@AG-en5y Tough call, but the Batman would just edge it for me. Slightly more stylish!
@@TheChapsGuide thanks homie
Simple way to build your relationship with the local AD is to purchase a lot of smaller gifts from them.... birthdays, valentines day, mothers day, Christmas, Easter and what have you. You don't have to spend a fortune and if all your looking to get is one watch this can work very well. Even if you don't have a huge spend history they will see a long track records of you being a customer. Tie the watch into a big life event and let them know about it. Great comment about it being addictive..... I'm 4 deep at this point with plans for acquiring my 5th. Ha!
That is a really great idea. They make a great profit on all jewelry and if they think they will gain your custom going forwards, they are highly likely to look after you.
Unfortunately my local AD only sells watches and not jewellery.
Is it a big chain store? They are the worst. I would drive to deal with a smaller family owned business.
@@BLR653. No it's definitely not a chain store. Its family run. Just one boutique in Adelaide. They sell 5 different brands of watches, nothing else.
Great video thank you
The limiting of products to the market is also something debeers does with diamonds. Keeping the price up. Also must agree that it is something we don't need but want. The paradox of value thing. Good video. Cheers Ron
Excellent video! Very well presented! Regards
Many thanks!
Ahh just commented on the explorer 1 video and then saw this !
Thanks for the informative video Ash! I am currently enjoying a seiko skx013, a swatch automatic jellyfish, and a 1954 omega seamaster, I am definitely hoping to invest in a Rolex explorer 5500 for my 40th in eight years time. I love watches, but see the value in taking the time in accruing a collection, especially compared to shoes and tailoring etc...
A great plan, acquire the collection holistically as you feel drawn to individual pieces and enjoy them all. Good luck on your horological journey.
Excellent, excellent video Ash, and definitely thanking you and for sure a thumbs up 👍🏼! You really explained the Rolex experience quite well, except for the fact that you mentioned Rolex just doesn’t sell to anyone, because I actually did work for the largest Swiss watch Retailer I’m the USA 🇺🇸 in the early 2000’s and we would sell Rolex to anyone, but again who knows if our prior clients resold them and many I think did, but yes the factor of discounts is real, this can have Rolex pull their line from your company and definitely ruin the integrity itself of the timepiece. I just purchased myself a few days ago a very unique Tissot V8 Swissmatic, which was very satisfying. How would you feel on doing a review on the entry level into the world of Swiss timepieces….. The Tissot for example……….?
Might be perhaps a great 😊 viewership, as you always give great options on Menswear from many angles, such as when you spoke about CT Shirts and TM Lewin, which are exceptional and I’m a fan of, which I have personally experienced and worn and have great quality 💎
Great video Ash. As you know I also have the GMT "Rootbeer" and just love it. However you're right about getting bitten by the bug. I'm on the waiting list for the new Sub date and a GMT Pepsi. My AD is hopeful that the sub will come in this year and the Pepsi next year. Fingers crossed. I'd also love the full gold Bluesy but it's just a little bit too much money. Keep up the great content! 😊
You have named some great pieces there and I bet they are on many people's wish list. I hope your journey to obtaining them goes well.
Sounds like you need to play the game a bit more, you have already had your professional…
@@joshuaashton856 not sure I understand. I don't need to play games. My AD has delivered on the previous two professional sports models that I've requested (a BLNR Batman and the CHNR Rootbeer) in a timely fashion. I also get my other watches serviced with them and have purchased other brands such as IWC through the same AD. I'm a collector not a flipper and am treated well 😊
@@chrisbuer7980 keep it up sounds like you have a great relationship!
If the only Rolex I'm interested in is Day-Date then I will not probably get one through authorized dealer, right?
Day date models are less sort after generally due to the fact they all only available in precious metals and hence have a hefty price tag. You should be able to source a DD in most AD outlets with some minor waiting. I personally love the DD and think they are a classic piece.
Exactly 💯 AD all the way! No to grey market con men! Not interested in watches ,just profit!!👍👌🙂😉
The thing that puts me off from rolex crap is that they chose what should i get and what should i dont get !! To me unfortunately nowadays the rolex just seems to be too pretentious, and the only model i want is 36mm black dial oyster perpetual! Even this has waiting list and selling overlist!!
It is an unusual and grating experience, but that is all part of the Rolex game and adds to the satisfaction of the feeling of success when you finally score that model you have always wanted.
I have a Rolex Explorer 1 (214270 39mm) looking at 2 tone Sub now!!!
Several more things to think about. Long term ownership costs, i.e. service and repair costs-- somewhat costly. Rolex wants you to use their service centers for repair and maintenance, and not watchmakers outside their network.
Historically, the Explorer 1 design came after the 1953 Everest expedition, with Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay. They used Smiths wristwatches and a Rolex model that was a precursor to the Explorer 1, which had a different dial design.
Ian Fleming/James Bond aficionados found that Ian Fleming wore an Explorer 1 as his personal wristwatch. According to one reference, Fleming's stepdaughter found it in a safe deposit box after her mother passed away. It's believed the literary (not film) Bond's Rolex described in the novel "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" as a "...heavy Rolex Oyster Perpetual on an expanding metal bracelet..." was an Explorer 1.
Another purchasing consideration is the lack of a date function on some of the Rolex models (Explorer 1, for example). It's a very expensive luxury item for time only.
Very true - I have yet to bear the cost of a Rolex service, but `I'm sure that will be no fun at all!!
I only have one luxury watch, and that is my Omega Seamaster.
I am going to my A. D. next week to and I will be talking to them about my desire to own a Submariner. I will be explaining to them that I am saving up for one, but I don't want to be put on a list yet, since I don't have the money yet. But when I have I will be asking them to put put me on a list for a steel Submariner.
I don't know if that is a good or bad way to do it, but I don't want to seem impulsive and I hope honesty will help.
It is a great idea to begin a friendly relationship with an AD as soon as possible, this can only have a positive outcome. The current 'wait list' (if there is such a thing in all reality) for a Sub is likely to be counted in years, opposed to a few months, so if I were you, I would seek to get on their radar as soon as possible and maintain that relationship with regular chats and drop-ins to prove that you are a genuine customer. Remember, it's all about the human interaction at the moment when it comes to the purchase of a watch - good luck sir.
@@TheChapsGuide Thank you very much for the quick reply. I plan to add both the Submariner and the Omega Speedmaster to my collection. And to let them know that I plan to buy both watches at their store.
When I bought my first and only luxury watch I bought an IWC Pilots watch because I did not want a Rolex - everyone had a Rolex and I didn't want to be like everyone. Never regretted it, I've had so many compliments and several people have asked to buy it as my silver Spitfire model has not been available for over 10 years. Had I gone for Rolex, the Datejust and Explorer are nice looking watches but the Submariner (the most coveted) is plain ugly.
Thanks for the great vid.
Im after a Daytona white face two tone for my 50th next year but after watching many RUclips videos I think I'm going to be very disappointed. I'm in Australia and I don't know how the supply and demand is here. There is a very nice boutique in Adelaide city that sells very high end watches only so will be taking a visit there soon. Will buy a date just this year to see if that helps to get on the list. Maybe one for the wife to.
To be honest, if you are serious about getting a Daytona and prepared to purchase 2 expensive pieces in order to possibly get a good spot on a waiting list, you will alm ost certainly be better off going grey market and buying a Daytona from a watch dealer. Whilst this is likely to cost at least 50% more than RRP, it will certainly be cheaper than buying 2 pieces in the hope that you may be able to obtain the watch you actually want in the future. The 2 tone Daytona retails for £14K new in the UK, but a grey market option may be upwards of £18 - £20k, but can be achieved immediately. Worth considering before you commit to buying other watches, which, in most cases, are unlikely to unlock a Daytona.
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Fair point and I have seen a few here on the grey market for about $32k upwards. New rrp is $24,600. I hoping once this horrible covid settles down Rolexs production might pick up slightly and help others get their prefered watch easier. Only time will tell. I do like the date just steel and white gold blue face so was thinking to get that for my 49th coming soon. Nice starter watch.
@@KC14109 I agree with Ash, I doubt 2 Datejust will unlock a Daytona even if its 2 tone. The ladies Datejust will unlock the blue dial Datejust that you like and that's about it as its going for slightly above retail in the pre-owned market. The current market for steel and full precious metals Daytona is thru the roof and the 2 tone is creeping up in price as it just do not make sense that the steel Daytona cost much more than the 2 tone currently. If you really like the 2 tone I suggest getting it sooner than later in grey or pre-owned market.
Go to Abu Dhabi…. No waiting list over there…. If you have money, you can buy the watch.
Sadly not the case. On my last visit to Abu Dhabi (last week) the ADs had nothing.
supreme is a modern rolex in many regards
I was severely hoping you were going to say, "before you wreck yourself" after you said, "check yourself"
I am afraid those Rolex watches may be quality but not for me .I reckon a chap should be seen to wear a more elegant timepiece that has a Swiss movement contained in a watch as thin as an old penny piece .Those Rolex are rather somewhat bulky in appearance not the sort of wrist watch one would feel comfortable with whist wearing a bespoke suit in polite company such as a chap would often find oneself old chap 🧐
I disagree, some models are rather bulky like the explorer 2, deep sea, yachmaster 2, but there are a lot of other pieces from the catalog that look very elegant dressed up, such as the Daytona (which is relatively slim and flat) and the 36 mm Datejusts (Ash’s model in the video) or Day-Dates. I have a Daytona ceramic and a Pepsi jubilee and they wear incredibly well with formal shirts and jackets, the Submariner is the maximum size I would go to wear with formal clothing. I can honestly tell you that the Daytona is really the best all around watch in the world, it does everything so well, it’s sporty and very resistant to wear and tear thanks to the ceramic bezel, oystersteel material, 100 meters water resistance and shock resistant components in the movement, it’s slim and elegant with classic proportions, it’s relatively cheap to service and easy to bring back to new with a polish if you want to in the future. All of this makes it a superior watch to the Nautilus and Royal Oak in steel and it also doesn’t cost a used Ferrari like those other 2. The Daytona is the perfect one watch collection and this is the reason why it’s so valued by collectors and aficionados.
They do certainly have a chunky profile, which is at odds to the more traditional gents timepiece. I do favour the Datejust, which is the most classical of the Rolex pieces for formal wear. But I do indeed understand your point.
@@TheChapsGuide I suppose it’s a matter for a chaps personal choice ,my late father always wore wafer thin watches ,My mothers father repaired & serviced watches as a life time hobby .I remember him having several hanging up on test after adjusting the regulators .A lot of my old wealthy clients sported Rolex’s .
@@teakcore5261 I suppose it’s a matter of ones personal taste ,but I only wear bulkier watches that I don’t mind getting scratched & bashed up when partaking in things like Fishing & shooting.
Should you really trust such a secretive organisation…? Remember they started by casing other manufacturers movements…
Who needs one… Omega rules..
Rolex make great watches, but - as alluded to - they are surrounded by hype and are overpriced. If you've been bitten by the bug (like so many of us), then only buying Rolex is a fools errand. Scratch the itch and get a Rolex, but then look wider. There are so many watches out there with better heritage, better movements and mechanics, and far better value. The only thing Rolex really wins at is marketing. Don't limit yourself to one over-hyped brand!
Agreed. I do have other brands in my collection and I am seriously looking at a JLC in the future (funds permitting)
Only AP and PP have the value retention and potential appreciation of Rolex (model depending)
@@BLR653 I have no plans to sell my watches. So value retention is less important to me than purchase price. Depreciation only matters if you buy things you don't intend to keep.
If I were to buy a Rolex it'd be a Submariner. Roger Moore. Live & Let Die. Unbeatable.
How to buy your first Rolex… “From a guy on a moped, with the engine running, just off Oxford Street”…?
Why should I be grateful for spending my Money.
Am not that vain 😅
And you will never wear it, just bring it out to show your rich friends…
Safe Queen watches are not real world useful…
You just walk into your rolex AD and buy one don't you?....... That's exactly what a did in the early 1980s..... I brought 3 Rolexs from ZALES jewellers in Chesterfield derbyshire they had a Rolex display in the window.... So I choose a non date submariner, a gmt master, and an Air King all together... Simple... Now you couldn't do that now.... Why???... Because Rolex deliberately hold units back..... The way this company treats watch buyers is disgraceful... Mmmmm Luxury watch.... Why no Luxury box? .... Imatation Leather... Poor Rolex very poor.... And guys like anything when you've worn a Rolex a few times it feels no different to any other watch the novelty soon wears off trust me.... I've been there myself.... I'll stick to my favourite brand Eterna.... 👍
Hi Grandpa Ash, The majority of what you have explained to getting your wrinkly wrist a Rolex are as ancient as your ‘attire’. For instance the OP range released, basically drained all the silly looking colours sold out from ADs @ retail , yet there are over 100,000 of these pieces available on the grey market. This is no fault of Rolex, they made more than enough watches, being a mass production watch company. 1 million +Rolex watched were made in 2021. This is no fault of Rolex it is the fault of the grey dealers the grey dealers who control the market value. In short, there are plenty of Rolex’s, they are just in the wrong hands.
Its a fackin watch. Just order it from China and probably working better
How to buy your 1st Rolex. ROB A BANK! Try not to get killed while wearing a stupidly expensive watch.
I've owned FOUR. All a waste of money.