That exposure problem of the DNG most likely is caused because Lightroom or Photoshop doesn’t have the correct codec for that particular Raw profile. I had that problem on ARW files from Sony at the beginning with Sony cameras when they were released for the first time (the A-mount era). This was most noticeable on the A700 and later. So, most likely, Lr or ACR requires an update.
I’m not sure what are the fuss is about the new camera button. To me, I think it’s about how you hold it and how to you use it. For me, taking pictures holding one hand is fine. If the button was any lower to the bottom it would be impossible. As for portrait mode, it worked great too, doesn’t obstruct any view or functions. I feel all the haters out there are just so used to using the old button that they nitpick anything new that doesn’t immediately gratifies them.
There's now a new JPEG/HEIF XL Lossless that should be an improvement over the standard JPEG... But the thing with Apple Raw is that at least you don't have that nasty over sharpened look that gives away it was shot on a smartphone.
I have been using 16 pro max for last 3 weeks. TBH I have used camera control button for once or twice to check how it works. I didn’t find any reason to have it there.
I have been bugging Adobe to create the "Adobe Standard" profile for the 16 series lenses. I like to create my own linear profiles. I prefer to shoot in 12MP Bayer RAW via a 3rd party camera app. You are dealing with trying to correct the Deep Fusion and noise reduction. I am not a big fan of ProRaw unless conditions are really bright or the scene is low light. When I have the linear profiles, I will have one for each iPhone lens.
Muscle memory takes care of the awkwardness of Camera Control - spend some time with it and it’s suddenly feels quick and accurate. Pretty obvious Apple is baking in some adjustments to their “Pro Raw” files before dropping them into the DNG wrapper - so not the same as a traditional raw file. I prefer have Styles, Tones, and the fake (but decent) blur available to me as creative choices.
You nailed it. That‘s exactly the workflow i did with all my iPhones. No raw, and very often edits in Lightroom on iPad, making it for no pros looking like a pro quality shot. But pros will see the difference compared to a regualr cam. And I half the same problems with the cam button during my testings, so I think I will skip this gen. Maybe next gen will be better or vanish. Greetings
I was thinking of getting an iPhone 16 Pro - went to the Apple store - tried out all the iPhone 16 models - the camera control button was less than appealing; fiddly, in the wrong position for comfortable use, and considering it takes less that 1 second to go to and use the controls on the screen, it’s pretty much just a gimmick, and a poorly thought out gimmick at that. I much prefer the ease of use of my iPhone 15 Pro, and difference in photo quality is so minimal it would be a real stretch to call it an upgrade of any merit. I’m sticking with my 15 Pro.
The control button need some practice , I hate it first when I use in my 16 pro but after a few days it is another way of shooting, press lightly once or twice and slide 😅
I have been having fun shooting in the stark b & w mood and then adjusting the tone. it's fun and very retro. for me it's easier to adjust highlights and shadows with no color which I can always be add the color back in later. Haven't shoot anything on with the adobe Lightroom camera yet. hopefully adobe will optimize their apps for the new iPhone pro 16 soon.
I also went for the standard iPhone 16 since I neither need the 120mm nor the 13mm. Like you nicely said, you use them way too little.I'd rather save the money. The thing with the RAW format is also super weird. But it could be more of an Adobe issue than an Apple one.
Can someone summarise what the take home messages are from this video? It's full of waffling and I don't have time to go through this at high speed. Thx
I have been really happy shooting in the HIEF max or JPG max format and editing using RNI’s excellent app… I am switching to the 16 Pro soon and am also looking forward to their 24 MP files which Apple uses some computational photography to produce. 24MP is enough resolution for me. I love photography and backpacking but weight is always an issue so I have decided to bring a lightweight mirrorless (Nikon Z30) with a 36mm equivalent prime and an 84mm equivalent prime (this comes in around 1.5 lbs) for most of my shooting and I will rely on the iPhone for wide angle and video. I brought a version of this (Z30 w/16-50 and iPhone 14 Pro) with me to Iceland recently and was very happy with it. My guess is that I’ll use the camera control as a way to open the camera app and as the shutter button but not for the controls.
I always used to import my 13 pro max raw files and immediately change the profile to Adobe standard. The apple proraw profile is sooooo bad, the photo is so difficult to edit with that. But I would honestly still be shooting in proraw on the 16 pro and spend a bit more time editing them as oppsed to jpeg or heif, they just have that digitally processed and oversharpened look no matter how much you play with the tones. As for the ultra wide, I have to agree with you, I barely used it, it's just too wide and I can't find suitable things to shoot with it. Maybe it's because on the 13 it is also an extremely crappy camera
Great review, im a portrait photographer and I have held onto my 13 pro. Was thinking to upgrade to the 16 Pro. But like you said I think the 5x lens would be overkill. I I wish they kept the 3x lens. How do you find the 2x lens for your portraits? Are you getting 24 MP files in HEIC mode? I guess that would be one plus as I am only getting 12 MP files on my 13 pro. Also re editing. I like to edit on my iPad mini, and the portrait mode DOF is adjustable on ipad. In the photos app. I wonder if the photographic styles is also ?
@@carlosandreviana9448 I’ve been a professional photographer for 35 years! Had all the equipment you can imagine. International clients. And now I am very confident using iPhone pro for my work! My clients don’t mind either! They hire me for my talent, not my equipment!
I use the Lightroom camera. Feel like the DNGs are so flat compared to the Apple RAWs. So I can actually edit like I would a real photo. Also hate that Apple RAWs get saved to my Google photos so I have to go through and delete the RAWs. Anyway to turn that off….??
My experience mirrors your own almost exactly. Except my wife and I haven’t been as “lucky” as you have been re health issues. Even so, retirement has been awesome. It took two years for nightmares to taper off. For so long I thought that was normal. I had no idea how much stress I was under. Thanks for sharing.😊
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You have to wait for the Adobe update. Happen´s every time new cameras come out. Adobe is not that fast implementing new cams. Overall I love my 16 Pro Max. Camera Button is a welcome addition. I upgraded from a 15 Pro Max and the 4k120fps is a real game changer. Would be cool if you talked more about the new Pro Raw Formats JPEG-XL Losless and JPEG-XL Lossy. That would be interesting.
What do you think is going to improve with support? Raws from ip14pro still act the same way - very underexposed in contrast scene, and not acting like RAWs when using Apple ProRAW profile.
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@@MagicWeddingPhotographer ProRAW files are definitely more powerful than JPEGs, but they’re not as “raw” as what you’d get from a traditional DSLR or mirrorless camera. For most people, though, they offer a great balance between flexibility and ease of use. If you’re deep into post-processing and want more control, this limitation could be a bit frustrating. If you’re serious about photography and want the cleanest raw data, you’d still probably reach for a camera with a larger sensor. But for on-the-go shooting with your iPhone, ProRAW is still an impressive format.
I’ve been shooting for 25 years and while I love the iPhone 16Pro, there’s no WAY I’m whipping out a phone for a professional shoot anyway. Physics will always prevent ‘professional’ results from a phone. You need that glass as you know. Also, I like the camera control button as an option when needed.
For some reason, ALL experts on the new iPhone camera button missed the major purpose of its control. That is, when using it to control exposure, “aperture”, etc. it will lock the setting, rather than touch screen that automatically adjust exposure settings when one moves the camera around. This alone allows me to have more creative control and at the same time pause me to compose and take pics with my iPhone more carefully. When I first got my iPhone 16 Pro Max a week ago, and eagerly to try it out, I was mostly disappointed (upgraded from iPhone 13 Pro Max), and didn’t realize the nuance in the evolution from 13 to 16, both in hardware & software. I hope Apple will continue offering flexibility in its camera and photo apps.
For me the 0.5 camera is useless - I don’t remember ever taking a decent photo with that lens, but at the same time really miss the 3x which I used to use for maybe 50% of my iPhone photos. What a shame Apple did not provide 1x 3x and 5x lenses - that would have been perfect. Mind you I only use my iPhone for impromptu snaps - any professional photos I still use my Sony A1
Yeah. When shooting ProRAW, the iPhone basically saves two files. One actual DNG file. And one HEIC or JPG file embedded into it, for previews. So basically. What happened is, either the program he's using incorrectly choose the preview HEIC (or JPG) file to edit, instead of the DNG. Or. When he downloaded or transferred the ProRAW file, he didn't save it as "original" quality.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer when im importing from the the iPhone i send all the data. Notice after you selecting the file your sending when you hit share up top there is option by clicking that you’ll see a switch that say all data turn that on, it will send the proper DNG with all the metadata.
I think you were too negative on the camera. Granted some of the setting on the capture button should have been easier to use and remember 90% of the people are casual photographers.
I sold my Ricoh GR because of iPhone RAW. In low light, iPhone destroys most cameras. Specially for group pictures with friends in a house or a bar. You have to create a new preset just for iPhone RAW, but is very worth it to me. You can give it your own look and remove the extreme sharpening and clarity that iPhone bakes into the JPGs. For everything else, I just use JPGs like you.
you got rid of a GR..? which one? The first film one or the first of the digital series? The iPhone doesn't even begin to compete with the GR II let alone the GR III its not even remotely close
@@AmeriaUprising GRIII. I had it as an Everyday carry, but realized I was mostly taking group pictures at night. And to my surprise, iPhone RAW looked extremely better. I would show the comparison, but I don't know how to do that in youtube. Of course as a camera experience, the Ricoh is way better than the iphone. But if Im going to go somewhere with the purpose of taking pictures, I prefer my Fuji with the sigma 18-50. For casual, everday stuff, iPhone wins. And iphone RAW at night is shockingly good.
It's hilarious when profoessionals think that the new camera button on a iPhone 16 is "design" for pro photography. Dude, it's just convenient camera access button for the every day NON pro photography users lol chill haha. Yes, there's techniques that could make the phone more professional looking. Man... these professionals need to chill and stick to their super expensive pro tools haha
@@carlosandreviana9448 because it’s always with you in the pocket! I’m not choosing it over my main camera for any of my work, but when I just have iPhone it can be really great tool!
@@robhughes8516 I disagree. It is impressive what the iPhone can do, and I am getting one. But is the iPhone sensor even able to fully resolve the 48MP resolution?
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Maybe you should wait until Lightroom support the 16pro…..than try again 😉😉..yes Lightroom van open the files but its definitiv not supported yet
That exposure problem of the DNG most likely is caused because Lightroom or Photoshop doesn’t have the correct codec for that particular Raw profile. I had that problem on ARW files from Sony at the beginning with Sony cameras when they were released for the first time (the A-mount era). This was most noticeable on the A700 and later. So, most likely, Lr or ACR requires an update.
@@TheGabrielStudios use Adobe color profile not Apple raw. Allows for more control over the colors
One need to get accustomed to the touch sensitivity of the camera button. Experiment with the pressure on the button. Once you get used to it it’s fun
I’m not sure what are the fuss is about the new camera button. To me, I think it’s about how you hold it and how to you use it. For me, taking pictures holding one hand is fine. If the button was any lower to the bottom it would be impossible. As for portrait mode, it worked great too, doesn’t obstruct any view or functions. I feel all the haters out there are just so used to using the old button that they nitpick anything new that doesn’t immediately gratifies them.
With iPhone 16, ProRAW now supports JPEG-XL format, which dramatically reduces file size
Woah Wireless Flash on iPhone this is awesome, tell me more about it pls. What I need for that?
I would like to know more about the flash for iPhone.
How many megapixels is the portrait mode photos?
@@kimwangtradingsbsb3223 24 on 1x camera, and 12 on 2x and 5x
I love the camera control. I use it as camera launch and changing photo styles
There's now a new JPEG/HEIF XL Lossless that should be an improvement over the standard JPEG... But the thing with Apple Raw is that at least you don't have that nasty over sharpened look that gives away it was shot on a smartphone.
Apple ProRaw is still oversharpened, but at least you can reduce in Lightroom. They should give us an option to turn off the post processing.
@@KhanhNguyen-lg2qi true. There’s a third party app that shoots without any process, Lampa. Check it out.
I have been using 16 pro max for last 3 weeks. TBH I have used camera control button for once or twice to check how it works. I didn’t find any reason to have it there.
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I have been bugging Adobe to create the "Adobe Standard" profile for the 16 series lenses. I like to create my own linear profiles. I prefer to shoot in 12MP Bayer RAW via a 3rd party camera app. You are dealing with trying to correct the Deep Fusion and noise reduction. I am not a big fan of ProRaw unless conditions are really bright or the scene is low light. When I have the linear profiles, I will have one for each iPhone lens.
Muscle memory takes care of the awkwardness of Camera Control - spend some time with it and it’s suddenly feels quick and accurate. Pretty obvious Apple is baking in some adjustments to their “Pro Raw” files before dropping them into the DNG wrapper - so not the same as a traditional raw file. I prefer have Styles, Tones, and the fake (but decent) blur available to me as creative choices.
What format gives the fastest shutter speed? I like heif max
Same. Pro here too, and I like the camera control button only to turn on the camera.
You nailed it. That‘s exactly the workflow i did with all my iPhones. No raw, and very often edits in Lightroom on iPad, making it for no pros looking like a pro quality shot. But pros will see the difference compared to a regualr cam. And I half the same problems with the cam button during my testings, so I think I will skip this gen. Maybe next gen will be better or vanish. Greetings
I was thinking of getting an iPhone 16 Pro - went to the Apple store - tried out all the iPhone 16 models - the camera control button was less than appealing; fiddly, in the wrong position for comfortable use, and considering it takes less that 1 second to go to and use the controls on the screen, it’s pretty much just a gimmick, and a poorly thought out gimmick at that. I much prefer the ease of use of my iPhone 15 Pro, and difference in photo quality is so minimal it would be a real stretch to call it an upgrade of any merit. I’m sticking with my 15 Pro.
Thanks for the video! I love the new Apple "Praw Ro" format (8:50) 😜
The control button need some practice , I hate it first when I use in my 16 pro but after a few days it is another way of shooting, press lightly once or twice and slide 😅
It took me many hours to get use to it….Its now second nature and I love that button😊
what's your main use for it except shutter button?
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer shutter and pulling up the setting menu...it was fiddly till it became second nature and I just love it
I have been having fun shooting in the stark b & w mood and then adjusting the tone. it's fun and very retro. for me it's easier to adjust highlights and shadows with no color which I can always be add the color back in later. Haven't shoot anything on with the adobe Lightroom camera yet. hopefully adobe will optimize their apps for the new iPhone pro 16 soon.
I also went for the standard iPhone 16 since I neither need the 120mm nor the 13mm. Like you nicely said, you use them way too little.I'd rather save the money. The thing with the RAW format is also super weird. But it could be more of an Adobe issue than an Apple one.
Can someone summarise what the take home messages are from this video? It's full of waffling and I don't have time to go through this at high speed. Thx
I don’t like the button, way faster using the screen for navigation
I have been really happy shooting in the HIEF max or JPG max format and editing using RNI’s excellent app… I am switching to the 16 Pro soon and am also looking forward to their 24 MP files which Apple uses some computational photography to produce. 24MP is enough resolution for me. I love photography and backpacking but weight is always an issue so I have decided to bring a lightweight mirrorless (Nikon Z30) with a 36mm equivalent prime and an 84mm equivalent prime (this comes in around 1.5 lbs) for most of my shooting and I will rely on the iPhone for wide angle and video. I brought a version of this (Z30 w/16-50 and iPhone 14 Pro) with me to Iceland recently and was very happy with it. My guess is that I’ll use the camera control as a way to open the camera app and as the shutter button but not for the controls.
I always used to import my 13 pro max raw files and immediately change the profile to Adobe standard. The apple proraw profile is sooooo bad, the photo is so difficult to edit with that. But I would honestly still be shooting in proraw on the 16 pro and spend a bit more time editing them as oppsed to jpeg or heif, they just have that digitally processed and oversharpened look no matter how much you play with the tones. As for the ultra wide, I have to agree with you, I barely used it, it's just too wide and I can't find suitable things to shoot with it. Maybe it's because on the 13 it is also an extremely crappy camera
Great review, im a portrait photographer and I have held onto my 13 pro. Was thinking to upgrade to the 16 Pro. But like you said I think the 5x lens would be overkill. I I wish they kept the 3x lens. How do you find the 2x lens for your portraits? Are you getting 24 MP files in HEIC mode? I guess that would be one plus as I am only getting 12 MP files on my 13 pro. Also re editing. I like to edit on my iPad mini, and the portrait mode DOF is adjustable on ipad. In the photos app. I wonder if the photographic styles is also ?
Stop investing in crap. Get real cameras and lenses. No one in his/her right mind hires someone with a phone
@@carlosandreviana9448 I’ve been a professional photographer for 35 years! Had all the equipment you can imagine. International clients. And now I am very confident using iPhone pro for my work! My clients don’t mind either! They hire me for my talent, not my equipment!
One of the most useful videos I’ve seen about IPhone 16 photography
I use the Lightroom camera. Feel like the DNGs are so flat compared to the Apple RAWs. So I can actually edit like I would a real photo. Also hate that Apple RAWs get saved to my Google photos so I have to go through and delete the RAWs. Anyway to turn that off….??
Me too i shoot dng and find it superior to apple proraw. Flatter image is better.
Aren’t the DNGs from the Lightroom camera only 12MP?
My experience mirrors your own almost exactly. Except my wife and I haven’t been as “lucky” as you have been re health issues. Even so, retirement has been awesome. It took two years for nightmares to taper off. For so long I thought that was normal. I had no idea how much stress I was under. Thanks for sharing.😊
You have to wait for the Adobe update. Happen´s every time new cameras come out. Adobe is not that fast implementing new cams. Overall I love my 16 Pro Max. Camera Button is a welcome addition. I upgraded from a 15 Pro Max and the 4k120fps is a real game changer. Would be cool if you talked more about the new Pro Raw Formats JPEG-XL Losless and JPEG-XL Lossy. That would be interesting.
What do you think is going to improve with support? Raws from ip14pro still act the same way - very underexposed in contrast scene, and not acting like RAWs when using Apple ProRAW profile.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer ProRAW files are definitely more powerful than JPEGs, but they’re not as “raw” as what you’d get from a traditional DSLR or mirrorless camera. For most people, though, they offer a great balance between flexibility and ease of use. If you’re deep into post-processing and want more control, this limitation could be a bit frustrating.
If you’re serious about photography and want the cleanest raw data, you’d still probably reach for a camera with a larger sensor. But for on-the-go shooting with your iPhone, ProRAW is still an impressive format.
I’ve been shooting for 25 years and while I love the iPhone 16Pro, there’s no WAY I’m whipping out a phone for a professional shoot anyway. Physics will always prevent ‘professional’ results from a phone. You need that glass as you know. Also, I like the camera control button as an option when needed.
For some reason, ALL experts on the new iPhone camera button missed the major purpose of its control. That is, when using it to control exposure, “aperture”, etc. it will lock the setting, rather than touch screen that automatically adjust exposure settings when one moves the camera around.
This alone allows me to have more creative control and at the same time pause me to compose and take pics with my iPhone more carefully.
When I first got my iPhone 16 Pro Max a week ago, and eagerly to try it out, I was mostly disappointed (upgraded from iPhone 13 Pro Max), and didn’t realize the nuance in the evolution from 13 to 16, both in hardware & software. I hope Apple will continue offering flexibility in its camera and photo apps.
You can just touch and hold the screen for 2 seconds and it will give you AE/AF lock
Yesterday your photos were recommended to me on Threads and now I see your video 😂
@@sebastianreiprich3747 haha social media algorithm got you! Hope you enjoy the video!
Great video. As always. Mine shows up in two weeks:)
RAW is the way to go. Especially fixing your photos if you over expose like you said. Plus Apple default colors suck!!
Adjust with tones. Solved
@@scottd1342 nah shoot raw then you have full control over color.
For me the 0.5 camera is useless - I don’t remember ever taking a decent photo with that lens, but at the same time really miss the 3x which I used to use for maybe 50% of my iPhone photos. What a shame Apple did not provide 1x 3x and 5x lenses - that would have been perfect. Mind you I only use my iPhone for impromptu snaps - any professional photos I still use my Sony A1
Your probably importing them correctly I don’t have this problem
What's your importing workflow? I feel like the massively underexposed images happen with contrasty scenes and I've shot most of the stuff backlit!
Yeah. When shooting ProRAW, the iPhone basically saves two files. One actual DNG file. And one HEIC or JPG file embedded into it, for previews.
So basically. What happened is, either the program he's using incorrectly choose the preview HEIC (or JPG) file to edit, instead of the DNG.
Or. When he downloaded or transferred the ProRAW file, he didn't save it as "original" quality.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer when im importing from the the iPhone i send all the data. Notice after you selecting the file your sending when you hit share up top there is option by clicking that you’ll see a switch that say all data turn that on, it will send the proper DNG with all the metadata.
@@kemarbell I airdropped DNG to computer
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Curious if you notice a difference by importing via image capture
Enjoyed your video thx
I think you were too negative on the camera. Granted some of the setting on the capture button should have been easier to use and remember 90% of the people are casual photographers.
It is making me thinking to sell my pro photo equipment!…
Agree. The camer button is iseless
Yep, they look kinda ok ....
I sold my Ricoh GR because of iPhone RAW. In low light, iPhone destroys most cameras. Specially for group pictures with friends in a house or a bar. You have to create a new preset just for iPhone RAW, but is very worth it to me. You can give it your own look and remove the extreme sharpening and clarity that iPhone bakes into the JPGs.
For everything else, I just use JPGs like you.
LOL!
you got rid of a GR..? which one? The first film one or the first of the digital series? The iPhone doesn't even begin to compete with the GR II let alone the GR III its not even remotely close
@@AmeriaUprising GRIII. I had it as an Everyday carry, but realized I was mostly taking group pictures at night. And to my surprise, iPhone RAW looked extremely better. I would show the comparison, but I don't know how to do that in youtube.
Of course as a camera experience, the Ricoh is way better than the iphone. But if Im going to go somewhere with the purpose of taking pictures, I prefer my Fuji with the sigma 18-50.
For casual, everday stuff, iPhone wins. And iphone RAW at night is shockingly good.
You’ve not mentioned HDR which displays their pics of their devices, but not after Lightroom editing.
It's nice upgrade from 14. I was tempted with that button to switch from 15 Pro Max but after your review I will pass.
It's hilarious when profoessionals think that the new camera button on a iPhone 16 is "design" for pro photography. Dude, it's just convenient camera access button for the every day NON pro photography users lol chill haha. Yes, there's techniques that could make the phone more professional looking. Man... these professionals need to chill and stick to their super expensive pro tools haha
The question should be Why am I using a phone
@@carlosandreviana9448 because it’s always with you in the pocket! I’m not choosing it over my main camera for any of my work, but when I just have iPhone it can be really great tool!
Because they can keep up with any camera out there and if you think they can’t then you really aren’t a photographer, at least not a good one.
@@robhughes8516 LOL. You've made my day 😂😂😂
@@robhughes8516 I disagree. It is impressive what the iPhone can do, and I am getting one. But is the iPhone sensor even able to fully resolve the 48MP resolution?
You are right. Phone camera comparison with professional ones is just nonsense
This video made no sense
Useless video😢
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I love the camera control. I use it as camera launch and changing photo styles