SKINIYA. CREATING AN ICON. ANTON & EKATERINA DAINEKO
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- short but very informative film about creating an icon
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The Orthodox in me is clapping with joy watching this! As an artist myself I can truly appreciate the beauty and patience in Iconography..But this....gives me a whole new deep level of respect looking at all of mine from my home land. Absolutely breathtaking! WOW
Thank you very much.
. chances are you will not read this...thank you for responding, Much love....! I was fortunate enough to have studied at Cornish School of the Arts in Seattle Washington. Which is the Juilliard for artists like myself. Which in the world of art it is one of the best schools you can possibly go to. So,I was extremely fortunate even if it was for a small amount of time. I will say....I attempted to take iconography and failed miserably! But I was able to sell several pieces to the members of our church who were blown away by what I was able to do and it is not even remotely 5% of the skill and Beauty you possess in your art!!. I can only strive to be as PATIENT as you, and that's a BIG one for me. I get frustrated and I want it done fast or I put it away because I get blocked. Therefore I have a million pieces that are unfinished....to the untrained eye they look done but they are NOT I have at least 50% more to go on almost all of them! I rarely am dumbfounded by artists and I got to tell you when I saw your stuff it blew me away and maybe if I wasn't Orthodox I wouldn't understand the beauty of iconography. The process, and steady hand, the eye, and education itself. It's mind blowing!!!! The respect and what they really truly mean, (Icons) a lot of people don't understand the history of what an icon even truly is. Your work is impeccable and you HAVE to love what you do and I shows with what WE see. God bless you and your beautiful work, it would be an honor, a true honor to ever have even one small piece of yours. I would worship it for the rest of my life. God bless and thank you for bringing SO MUCH Beauty into this world, that so many of us do not get a chance to see......❤🙏
Instablaster.
Beautiful. Your fan from los Angeles CA USA 👍
wow, thank you! we are painting church in Santa Rosa, CA, so almost neighbors :) Greetings
Sono incantato da tanta bravura....
Grazie ♥️♥️♥️
I nearly cried while watching this video.
Very very beautiful!
I wish i could have a miniature icon like this of St Georges the Holy martyr.❤❤❤
Thanks for the nice words.
You can write me Ptahminsk@gmail.com and we discuss how to make your miniature icon
Ο Θεός να σας έχει καλά Αντωνιε και Αικατερινα Να σας δίνει Δύναμη Ο Άγιος Νικόλαος να πρεσβεύει στον Κύριο μας για όλο τον κόσμο🙏🙏⛪💒🌹
Wow. That is truly amazing, thank you for sharing
thank you very much
Absolutely fascinating process, and a wonderful piece of artwork. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you 🌷🌷🌷
Great Byzantine hagiography sample. Saint Nicholas blessing all of us.
Thanks
Waugh. That's so elegant
thank you very much!
Che padronanza di pennellata e di applicazione della Fogliaoro...Bei lavori...cjao.ak
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Extremely beautiful work!!! Congtatulations!!!
Thank you very much!
from all my heart, congratulations !!!
Thank you very much!
You sir are very talented. I just got into iconography and this video helps a lot. God bless.
thank you
Outstanding and inspirational.
thank you!
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Bellísimo ícono!!!! Felicitaciones!!!!
Gracias
Such a beautiful process.
Thank 🙏 you very much
You are welcome. I am starting out in Iconography. I can watch videos, and look at the art all day every day.
Thank 🙏 you very much
@@nothingtoseehere417 we have an icon study and consultations online for a little group of students once a week.
@@EkaterinaDaineko I'd be interested.
I see now that every painter has his own technique... Mine is a bit different... But I'm still learning, still a pupil... You are a skilled master. Bravo!
Thanks! Not even every master, but every icon sometimes demands different techniques. That's why experienced artists are experts in a many different styles and techniques. And they just choose what they need for a moment from all the variations. This a difference between a master and a beginner. Begginer learns and follows only one way.
@@EkaterinaDaineko That's great, and I hope one day becoming that skilled... I learnt with a Russian master in France, Gallia Bitty... it was great to see her fix any of my mistakes...
That's such a spiritual and beautiful art...
@@fairies47 Good.
I also do classes all over Europe and used to fix a lot of mistakes , if students want that, but first try to explain maximum that he would be able to do that himself. But often they are just happy to watch. So i know what you mean)
zlatne ruke bog ti podario srecu i zdravlje
♥️♥️♥️ Спасибо, thanks
I'm speechless, so inspiring
Thank you very much
Less than a minute in and we are seeing cinnabar being ground dry. Never grind cinnabar (or vermilion, its man-made equal; or, lead white) dry. Always wet it with something - even if it is rain water (which can then evaporate).
Apart from that, beautiful, informative and everything that it should be.
It was definitely wet. Thanks!
This is not a tutorial, just a short film about the main moments of icon painting. So not everything is explained ot visible.
In details we explain everything in our school and classes
This is amazing! I kinda wanna make this now.
We have online class now. If you are interested you can write Ptahminsk@gmail.com and join.
People without experience if they are stubborn enough are doing great things.
Beautifully made.
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Stunning !
thank you very much!
Beautiful work 🙌
Thanks a lot
icon classes in the USA and Europe 2019
Online lessons and hopefully 2021 we could travel again.
Ekaterina Daineko in Paris!????wow congratulations this is big and great work😍😍😍😍
@@carotina1986 thank you!
@@carotina1986 if we know where in Paris we definitely could come there!
Amazing!
Very good! I'm not a religious person but I really like it!
Thank you very much, Konstand
Hello, it’s amazing to see you work. I hope you won’t mind if I ask you a few artistic questions.
- 1) What is your subsurface? Is it just regular Gesso or is it something special?
- 2) Your paints:
2a) they are powdered tempra? where do you purchase them?
2b) is there are recipe for the ingredients & amounts of each item?
- 3) Your liquid for mixing the paint & diluting it? - is that water? Oil? Something else?
- 4) what type of brushes are those? What brush size numbers do you use?
- 5) preservation:
5a) when you are finished - you put on it for glaze/protection; what is that glaze?
5b) how long do you need to let the surface dry before applying the glaze?
5c) how long do you let the glaze dry?
-6) what was the purpose of putting those 2 wooden slides on the back of the icon?
I know you are a very busy person so I definitely understand your time constraints. I am complete enamored with your work & I’ll definitely look for more to view.
Thank YOU so very much and sincerely,
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1) It's gesso, applied on wood board treated with animal skin glue and a piece of cloth underneath. It's not acrylic gesso!!!(the acrylic gesso behaves like a regular acrylic paint, the gesso recommended implies animal skin glue, usually chalk powder and water, the surface being sanded until you get a smooth surface).
2) Tempera never comes in powder (there's no such a thing). They used pigments. Traditional tempera is made out of grinded pigments and emulsion. The amount of pigments/emulsion depends on your preference. Usually the rule is to prepare it to be workable, to not crack and to adhere on the surface (eliminating the risk of flaking of during time). The consistency of tempera mixture is gained through experience and experimentation. Is not hard, just need some practice.
3) It's used an egg emulsion. Now, I don't know the exact recipe that they use, but there are a couple of them. The most basic is 1:1 water-egg yolk (just the 'filling', not the skin, unless you want some bit of unaesthetic texture in you mixture) and a little bit of vinegar (to preserve it, because of the acid). There are other ones using ration of wine with egg yolk 2:1 or 1:1 (ditching the vinegar, you have acidity from wine...and vinegar can be made out of wine), the whole egg and even additional ingredients such as linseed oil ore sicative oil. Also depends on preferences and needs a little bit of practice, to see what's suitable for your work.
5) The time recommended for an icon to dry is up to one week, to one month to even one year (the most recommended if you have the time, trust me, it's worth, the colors would be very very stable). The trickiest part with the tempera regarding the drying process is the fact that you are cheated by the fast drying appearance, but emulsion, being a stable mixture between water and a fat, will not dry as the water evaporates. The fat from egg yolk still remains and needs time to dry (as the oil painting needs). I heard artists 'glazing' their icons one or two days after the painting process ended. Now it depends on artist's experience, preferences and knowledge. But the most known time is that of one week or one month or one year.
Regarding the 'glaze', I think you are referring to the varnish. The varnish is the ultimate coat, the protective layer, and is not only the custom of iconography. It will not only protect your work and preserve the painting layer, but also gives unity to the composition. In some cases, if the colors are too bright and neon-eye-catch sort of shades, there are some varnishes that would make them 'tarnish', giving a milder-sweet tone and also unity because of the color which would be present in the entire surface (giving unity by adding the same color to all the shades and saving your work, in case if you didn't do that on purpose and everything was well-planned). In fact, even acrylic and oil paint needs a varnish. There is a wide variation of varnish: oil based, water, solvent and resin based (yes, water could be considered as solvent, but anyway), synthetic varnishes: here also you need to use what is suitable for your work and preference (and again the endless process of experimenting and trying, but here we are, unless you have a good teacher on your hand to call, to talk about or even practice). The drying time depends on the ingredients, like solvents, resins, etc. You can test it by the smell (trust me, it's not a joke): smell the varnish, being careful not to have some ingredients that would affect your health, and, when the smell disappears, than you have a dry surface. You can try the touching test...but if you leave a fingerprint mark, well... I wish you success fixing that. The reason why you need to be attentive with the smell is the fact that usually the solvent in the varnish is a so-called 'aromatic' compound. When the smell is gone, then the solvent is evaporated and the surface must be dried. Now, again depends, do you experimentations. The time could be up to a couple of hours (water-based varnishes) to a couple of days up to a week and maybe a month or so. This is why the process of an icon is very laborious and needs patience not because of the executions but because of the resting time required by each step.
P.S. Apologies both to you and to the owner of this channel, if I offended by answering to the questions or the answer itself seems to be offensive. All things that I shared are things that I learned through experience, being myself a self-taught. As a little pro-tip: never give-up, even if you are a self-taught, keep working, the results will come in time.
Oh Yhwh this is beautiful
Thanks a lot
Bravooo👏👏👏😙
Maja Vujičić thank you!
Amazing!!
Thanks a lot
Bellísimo.
Grazie
Woah how did you made that
with a brush and colors)
Wonderful
Thanks!
It's amazing.
Thank you very much
Well done!
thank you!
I am an orthodox Christian from india, how to learn iconography.
Hello Shambhy
You can email me Ptahminsk@gmail.com and we discuss the options
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Amazing icon!!!😃 Can you tell us what kind of paint did you use in the icon?
thanks. It is egg tempera - natural mineral pigments - semi precious stones with egg emulsion
@@EkaterinaDaineko thanks for telling us the kind of paint.😃
Teach me, master!
with pleasure
Ωραια δουλεια θαθελα μεγαλλιτερη λεπτομερια
@@marygiementzoglou3707 we have videos from our classes, detailed , at my fb page facebook.com/daineko.icon
You can contact me Ptahminsk@gmail.com
На что золото кладете: на полимент или мордан? Добрый вечер. Мне показалось, что на мордан
Мордан
😍😍😍😘
:)
Underpainting and glazing...
would be helpful to explain step by step what is actually going on in the process..just saying
Thanks for your comment. This video is not tutorial. This video is for customers to show that it is a lot of complicated work. Step by step process we show in our master classes in minimum 7 days (USA 2019,Germany 2020). Here with 7 min it is another format.
@@EkaterinaDaineko okay beautiful work regardless..hoping to take up this ancient art in the next few months..in the info gathering stages looking how to learn basics
@@psalmsurfer1 wish you the best.
The easiest way to start is to get a good instructor, who will show you all the details in icon drawing etc. It is completely different language with different rules than secular art. Iconic language. After that you can just improve your skills while painting under some supervision at home . Tutorials don't speak about that.
fo meindre le gd chef holand et sa statue de 38 metre de haut a coter dun terminator renaissance
How to make gold water color
To buy it in the artistic store
не совсем понял момент с хлебным мякишем и золотом на 6:11
хлеб как-то особенно его распределяет?
или абсорбирует излишки?
Leonid Imennykh клеит где надо, и где не надо не клеит.
все равно не понимаю, как именно это работает, но спасибо)
@@nonbinaryrussia в иконе вообще много всего непонятного, но свежий черный хлеб справляется с золотым ассистом на ура. :)
Do you make workshops online?
Yes, since new situation in the world i have tried online teaching and that works well. You can write me Ptahminsk@gmail.com.
wunderschön und technisch perfekt...
thanks!
Can you tell me please,what you use,to write the letters on the gold?
E E he wrote the name of St. Nicholas
@@GamerZz-yu7lw thank you.
With eggtempera on the gold?
E E I'm not sure, but the golden part is Gold leaves
@@GamerZz-yu7lw thank you.
How many chickens will never be born in the name of art???
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@Santo Senhor I am assuming that you are a supernatural propagator who pretends that he is "not an animal" and reserves the right to make up whatever he desires.
at least it "gluten free"
lol sebastopol lenine
huh, i guess that icon isnt' vegan
Eggs, yes.
Jesus Christ is the only way
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Amazing!
Thank you!
Wonderful
Thanks!