Whenever I fly to Africa or Asia we are required to show a return ticket, give the address and contact details of where we are staying, say whether it's for work, tourism or other reason, and prove we have the necessary visa. Some allow you to land without a visa and buy it at the airport, but if you don't you get put on the next plane back to where you came from. So I don't know why the Russian embassy expects to be any different. 🤷♂
Imagine China sees this and is like, "We want Serbia back." China has instant air-supremecy, Manpower advantage and RU would be looking at a war on two fronts... China would just get territory. I doubt RU could do much more than cry about it. RU is going to be crippled by these sanctions for DECADES. My thought is that Russia now has no choice but to continue hostilities. If they capture UA, theyll have chemical production rivaling Germany plus extra food once its all fixed up. From there he can springboard into NATOs eastern border. Putin has been clear- He wants the old Union back and hes willing to stop at pretty much nothing to do it.
Ireland is one of the largest providers of aircraft leasing and was badly burned by Russia who in effect stole their aircraft by not paying the leases and not returning the aircraft. Russia will not be able to get aircraft leases for many many years.
Thank you for the informative comment. I knew Ireland did a lot of leasing but I didn't know Russia screwed then over so. If my grandmother is any indication, the Irish have a long memory and you are right.
As an american, i enjoy how polite you europeans are. An american would have said "they rented the planes and then stole them!!!"!lol. We are both correct, but one is much more polite about what happened.
@@fdllicks Yeah, but compare that to the clueless/confused US commentary on the absolute hiding the Tories took in the elections last week. You'd think the entire US news media was a useless and foolish as NPR.
There's also a problem with these seized planes: the tracking of the spare parts and servicing. When a part is serviced or replaced on an airliner, it's vitally important that there's a 'paper trail' of what was done and what was replaced. The servicing also has to be carried out by an approved technician. All of these seized planes now have a 'broken' paper trail, which makes it impossible for them ever to fly outside Russia legally again (and if any of them did land at an airport outside Russia, they'd be immediately impounded). Even if the airline manufacturers and the leasing companies got their hands on these planes again, all of them would have to be scrapped because of this broken chain of information. When the war on Ukraine is over, you can imagine the attitudes of the leasing companies too (and there are only a few of these): they'll want to be paid in full for these 800+ planes before they'll even think of leasing any more planes to Russia. An Airbus A330-200 has a list price of US$238.5 million. We're talking about nearly $200 billion to compensate the leasing companies before they'll even begin to replace all those aircraft. Hardly any of the aircraft Russia used were owned by Russian companies, btw. Virtually all of them were leased. It doesn't look to me as if there'll be much of an airline industry in Russia even after the war's over.
One Problem Russia faces is: Most Soviet Aircraft Engines use Parts from Ukraine. There was even a smuggler Ring which got busted in the End of 2023, which still delivered Ukrainian Parts to Russia, so that their Tupolev Aircraft could stay in the Air. So even older Soviet Aircrafts will cease flying soon.
Ruzzian embassy is taking interest in this, because these Russians are those from the upper class. Those people, who were never going to be sent to Ukraine. A guy from Finland 🇺🇸🇪🇺🇬🇧❤🇺🇦
Russia has a major fleet of airplanes from Irish … that they are leasing from Irish… Russia should give it back but they didn’t they stole the billions of dollar from Irish worth of airplanes … why nobody is talking about this anymore ?
The Irish shouldn't have leased so many planes to Russia, similar to all other companies, anybody who wants to invest in Russia in the future does so at their own risk, it always was and is a rogue state!?!
Ireland needs to smarten up quickly by joining NATO. Irish Airspace will strengthen NATO and Ireland will be much more secure as an active member of that alliance. Tiochfaidh ár Lá!
I spoke to a very good friend, who is a senior person with Airbus, last weekend and we discussed the current and long term situation regarding the airbus aircraft currently in Russia. The issue at the moment is that the aircraft have not been properly serviced so have been disowned by Airbus. Even if the war stops and the sanctions are lifted, those aircraft will still not be able to fly anywhere outside Russia as Airbus will not allow it until such time as each and every one has been subject to a detailed inspection and issued with an air-worthyness certificate. That process will take an enormous amount of time.
@@war-painter Airbus had an office on Moscow and made it clear to the Russians that the aircraft were not to fly. as the maintenance schedule was not possible to be adhered to due to the sanctions. Russia changed its laws to enable them to continue to fly them but only inside Russia so Airbus has no responsibility if one of them falls out of the sky.
100% correct. As far as the international aviation community is concerned, those planes may as well not have been touched by a mechanic since 2022, whether or not that's actually true. Any records provided by the Russians testifying to proper maintenance may as well be written in crayon because no major country will accept some Russian jalopy flying overhead in their airspace and the massive liability that would cause. As such, the only recourse would be to recertify those planes, which is both time consuming and VERY expensive. Even if Russia voluntarily repossessed the planes to avoid recertification fees, the planes will be destined for the boneyard. Getting new leases after the trust they broke when they stole the planes will result in a middle finger and "pound sand" or if the lessors are feeling particularly generous, they could agree but under the terms of a very high rate due to the risk of potential loss again. The "plane theft" by Russian airlines royally screwed the pooch in the worst possible way, and now it's going to be a very slow and painful death for airlines like Aeroflot.
They have paid money to buy some of the airplanes recently....I think that is so they can fly out of russia without getting seized at foreign airports.
@@jtf2danwhy would they pay for something they don't have to they must owe the aircraft firms millions they have seized other companies assets they haven't paid for those companies ( I know there were token payments involved but nowhere the full price/ full value of said companies)
The Russians didn't lose their foreign (mostly leased) fleet, they stole it. And now they're finding out the hard way that they are flying fewer and fewer of those stolen airliners because they can no longer obtain OEM spare parts and thus are grounding planes and using them for spares. Yes, there are far fewer flights -- domestically -- than ever. And because they cannot fly their stolen aircraft into other countries (no longer certified as airworthy and also would be grounded for being stolen in the first place), they are relying on other countries that are willing to fly into and out of Russia such as Turkish Airlines. Soooo stupid, Ivan!
All those stolen aircraft are now breaking down. Maybe Tucker Carlson should take a bunch of Aeroflot flights and tell us how brilliant and safe they are.
In the early 80s I worked at Dulles international Airport, listened to a conversation between the tower and pilot of an Aeroflot VC10ski . Rainy night he asked for a straight in to land.Pulled off the runway onto a taxiway and ran out of gas!! 😮
I wonder how many of these planes are still flying? I seem to recall a recent emergency landing in a field somewhere in Siberia. It would be too costly to move the plane, so apparently it is to be abandoned.
Tit for tat is what happens when you first steal the assets of another country. Countries that stole Russian assets first can’t really cry when same happens to them. 🤷♂️
Actually Russia is not huge, if you leave out wastelands, useless tundra, swamps, etc. Russia's main problem is that it's roads are crap, as the state has failed to maintain the roads and infrastructure that goes with it. Corruption makes Russia lesser player.
Problem is you can’t just leave out those areas when traveling. You have to travel through, over or around them to get places. So Russia is huge and their main problems go far beyond just roads. It infrastructure in general. Either roads, rail or planes are needed for that travel.
You can do alot with "wortless" tundra. Look at China at the border to Russia. One side are in full action at the Russian nothing happends. No wonder China are getting ready with their troops to take back the east side that Russia stole back in time from China. China are just waiting until Russia are falling apart then they go in.
I worked for an American Airline in the late 80's and the fine for the airline was $1000 per passenger landed without all of their entry documents. It is expensive for the airlines to land undocumented pax.
That's the reason migrants are trying to get to Europe by boats. Without valid travel documents, no airline will even allow them to board a plane in their own country.
Having worked for various airlines, including Lufthansa, I was told that any passenger who manages to get on a flight and arrive in a foreign country will become the responsibility of the airline to pay any and all charges incurred. This included detention costs while waiting to be deported, legal costs of the country, medical, food etc. ALL of it is charged to the airline. So if a country has requirements, it is up to the airline to make sure they check anyone getting on their flight. Even if the passenger eats his documents while enroute, the airline will pay the costs for removing that person from the destination country.
Nord Stream Bingo Plus, at the end of 2024, a 5 year agreement expires governing one of the oldest and biggest economic links between Russia and Europe: the transit of Russian gas through the territory of Ukraine. Kyiv has already said it will not extend the agreement. Russia would take a financial hit if it could no longer transport its gas via Ukraine. There are no equivalent alternative markets for the Yamal gas currently sold to Europe, and that will not change significantly, even with the construction of the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline to China (no earlier than 2030) and an LNG plant on the Baltic Sea (currently planned for 2026-2027). The combined capacity of those two new projects is approximately half of the volume by which supplies to Europe have already decreased.
@@christianevanherck6023 13% of the energy to EU came from the Ruzzia and Ruzzia got 85% of their income from that. EU is never going to be Ruzzias client again. Pootin lost massively. Mathematically Ruzzia can’t win this war.
Venezuela has required in transit passengers to check into the country and then pay the exit tax/fee to leave since the late 1990s. Russia can complain but it's been the practice for decades.
Sounds like you are extremely jealous of such a resource rich country. Now they are getting their act together and rediscovering themselves we are in deep trouble. I mean, what is our biggest bragging point? The amount of debt we are in? How high we can crawl up the “Woke Meter”, our pretend Universities? Let me know.
I've heard claims that they have supposedly paid for at least some of the planes. However, I wasn't able to verify this. In any case, I don't think the frozen assets are going to help. If Russia tries to pay for the planes using those, the US (and other countries that have frozen Russian central bank assets) are going to say that Russia can't use those but must instead use some other assets like the foreign currency it gets from its hydrocarbon exports.
Exactly. Seems a very good idea to me to use those funds to reimburse the leasing company, who can then repay their lenders. It seems Putin is running a thieves paradise. Trouble is they seem to be getting trapped inside their paradise, - burst pipes, burst dams, bust banks, etc.
The Russian and Chinese aircraft industry is focused on developing and building warplanes NOT commercial aircraft. That should tell you their national objectives.
Russia is, China is trying to develop its own military jets (Which it has quite a few so the posters point is valid) and one civilian jet but the civilian plane has not been certified for use outside of China, Russia can order 800 for 2040 if they pay upfront!?!
@@vostok2360 Little joker, there’s nothing going wrong with NATO, just Russia is on its self destructive path, lead by the biggest leader of all times, little Adolf Putin. And you, little joker, gets sucked into this men-eating machinery. Don’t you realise that Putin doesn’t let any witness survive? Look what happened to the DNR/LNR leaders, all are dead by now, no one of 2014 exists. But ignorants realise too late what’s posing on.
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@@willvangaal8412why are you Dutch obsessed with communicating in a language absolutely no one understands? Some kind of megalomania or childish entitlement?? 🤔🤪
It's about time that Turkie follows NATO's rules as being part of it. Regardless, Russia just watched "Back to the future", to the 80's or 70's. Good job Mr Putin.
@@williamjones9662 the biggest friends of Russia is the republican party in the US. The Republicans are not really known to be friends with "progressive" governments. Russia is faschist, or tries to be, they are really not able to. More like proto faschist.
Just get Boeing and Airbus to refuse to sell them parts, then those airlines would soon be in the same boat as Russia. And refuse them landing rights in the USA, and hopefully the EU would do the same.
A further thought, Joe. You wondered why the Russian Consulate has offered its help to travellers refused boarding - surely it's because Russia has emigration restrictions and they want to know who's trying to leave. They don't really want to help at all.
@@Trevor_Austin Many is correct (and even most). Some of the Russian airlines did fully own some Airbus and Boeing aircraft. I believe this quantity is less than 20% of all the Airbus and Boeing aircraft in Russia at the start of the Ukrainian Invasion in Feb 2022.
LMAO. Stupid is as stupid barks. Frau Genocide already banned Russia from EU airspace, and Russia responded in kind, which is costing EU airlines billions.
What was not mentioned here was that many of those Being and Airbus planes were being leased. When the war started, the leases were terminated by the primarily Irish based leasing companies and Putin refused to return the aircraft. He basically stole them. This is yet another example of if the war were to end tomorrow, it may be a long time before Russia returns to good standing with the rest of the world's businesses. In addition, assumably some of those aircraft being cannibalized are planes that they don't even own. The long-term prospects of the Russian airline industry are dire.
I think Russia did exactly as they should have (and knew they would have to do) when they put themselves up against the NATO consortium. What do you think they were they going to do, just send the planes back? Use your imagination and consider what would happen if the US was asked to return borrowed goods after they became engaged in a political war. Unfortunately, this can only be a thought exercise, because this never happens. Not because the US doesn't get engaged in political wars, but because they write the narrative which you are reading, and they would never admit to such. Just my opinion.
Two modern Tugboats were also stolen from Danish Mærsk, as well as Carlsberg brewery assets worth billions. German high tech assets as well.. The list of stolen values is endless... What a lousy shit show run by a deeply corrupt megalomaniac war criminal 👀😴💩
Worked in Russia 1975 - 2015, travelling internally became so hazardous that we were not permitted to travel with numerous airlines due to accident rates. Domestically produced planes were unreliable & tended to be old aircraft, one flight Surgut Siberia had five attempts on the final attempt the flight got airborne two minutes later it had to return the airport. Imported aircraft provided safe reliable travel. Travelling Moscow - Sakhalin was via second hand 747’s if we were unlucky it was on a domestic equivalent which was totally substandard. Traveled on numerous Aeroflop domestic roots on US planes Moscow - Kazakstan, Moscow - Surgut etc, etc.
The Irish company won't get caught out by Russia again, they will have them pay through the nose for decades, similar to all other countries/ companies Russia has stolen from, any foreign capital it requires in the future will be at a very high price, think Venezuela!?!
@JerryCans: Probably the opposite...they're using all the high-tech from the toilets and washing machines to repair the plane's! Imagine the cockpit dashboard. There is now a toilet handle to lower the landing gear!
It's a Russian map. As you can see, it also shows Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson as a part of Russia. Do you expect Joe to draw his own map? It would be needless extra work. Also, he can't change the video now anymore, at least not in that way.
Thing is, doing so will not help their economy one bit. The damage has been done already and cannot be repaired. Pretty sure russia knows this, and they also know that the only way of slowing their own collapse is to remain on 100% war economy footing until all their funds are gone and they have stolen everything they can from their population and companies. Unfortunately the only way that plan can continue is if they stay at war with someone. So if they keep waging war, they collapse eventually and if the stop they collapse even sooner.
Just my guess -- you'll be repeating that till the cows come home. There is a case to be made that the West is burning itself much faster than Russia is, simply because of the geography of this event. Russia is operating along it's own border. The West is essentially throwing billions (which it doesn't even have, as it is already debt-financing its own existence) into that general area, with quite dubious results. If you live in the geo-political West (like me), you have probably been hit with crippling inflation, which should continue to get much worse. But they will continue to feed us this propaganda of how Russia is collapsing, while our own countries are very enthusiastically going to sh*t. The key is not to look at the way things are today, but look at the trend in which things are changing.
@@rhwing5095 - My thoughts are that Russia, when they can no longer continue will be forced into a peace deal and get Donbas but lose Crimea. That's how I see the bigger picture and taking into account natural law. Dictatorships don't work or last because they take away the human rights and freedoms of the individual to suit the state. The Russians state is horrific in its abuses and it wont last. This is 2024, not 1824
@@rhwing5095I live in the West like you and the "crippling inflation" you mention has resulted in me going out to a restaurant for dinner one night less per week. So crippling. And I have an average salary, nothing special. Get real. russia *is* collapsing but it is not the West saying that it is russia themselves. I suggest you start taking note of their monthly budget figures that they publish themselves. It's an express elevator to hell and going down.
Nearly 10 years ago the Malaysian flight 17 passenger airliner was shot down passing over that region. Now Russia and Ukraine are at full scale war and there are anti-aircraft batteries everywhere to defend against warplanes, missiles, and drones. I wouldn't consider stepping on a plane in that region.
@Schutze Spot on. Putin has painted himself and Russia into a corner by invading Ukraine and now they have no way back with the only option being to remain on the same insane path.
He didn't think any of it through. The mentally ill of his type struggle with rational thought. He wrongly believed he could make up a threat to Russia, go and deal with it in a matter of a few weeks and bring Ukraine with its assets back into the Russian fold. Basking in all the acclaim and adulation from the Russian citizens that someone, with a fragile ego such as him, so desperately needs. That's the problem of believing your own BS in a country so corrupt as Russia.
Many have said that Ireland one of the biggest losers when Russia stopped paying for leased aircraft from Irish leasing companies and did not return the planes. Irony is that Ireland is not a member of NATO and has made no MILITARY aide to Ukraine. Nonlethal aide only I believe. That's as close to being a "friend" of Russia compared to how most of Europe has reacted to Russia after their invasion of Ukraine. Seems like no matter how "nice" or neutral a country is to Russia that country will still be shafted by Russia if it suits them.
Given that one of the stated reason the russians launched their stupid war in Ukraine was that there are russians living in Donetsk, also ditto Moldova and Georgia. So you could probably understand countries not wanting them to come and settle in Idaho and set up a new breakaway republic, I mean they already have a Moscow there, this would be just tempting fate.
Another great video. How folks can't see that Russia is collapsing socially, economically, and militarily, is beyond me. Keep up the great work as you provide details that are not ¨click bait¨ and show how rapidly Russia is declining. I doubt we will hear of any crashes as Russia is really cracking down on any video showing what is really happening. Love your videos and insights.
This is partly because like many modern collapses it's a disaster in slow motion. If it doesn't impact people directly they tend to be focused elsewhere. That's true in any country but there are people in large areas of rural Russia who have been going without all along and who never travel. And as you say, Russia, like Chine, keeps a tight lid on bad news so only those who are refused travel or have lost relatives in Ukraine have an idea of what's happening.
How folks can't see that the same Global Jewish Nation that wants to exterminate Slavic Christians also wants to exterminate American Christians is beyond me.
Wonder how Russia is still doing good after 2.5 years of Joe Blogg dissecting all industries of Russia as completely doomed and bound to collapse actually it sounds like its all wishfull thinking not really a reality, its actually clickbait because u baboons still hope that Russia will fail or loose the war ….
Maybe its because that in spite of what Joe is trying to tell you, Russia is still selling nearly as much crude oil as before the war, and is taking in Billions of dollars doing so. The unfortunate reality is they have 10% of the world market and the west is afraid if that got taken off the market the price of crude could double, unemployment would shoot up and inflation could rise. Where are our 'friends' the Saudis who could make up that 10% and could use the cash on their pie in the sky projects
A decade ago, we planned a 4 day trip to St Petersburg. Before we were even granted a Visa to enter Russia, we had to show a return ticket, accommodation booking, and a booking with a tour group. Access to funds was also a necessity on entry. All normal stuff. So why should Mexico be different? If an airline knowingly flies a passenger to a destination where they will not be allowed entry, the airline has to fly them back at airline expense. Airlines apply this sort of logic at checkin EVERY time, not just in Russia.
The director of Continental tyres was threatened to keep its Russian factory open... There's a video from 2022 talking all about it. They make all sorts of tyres for everything. Germany was not happy.
If an airline boards a passenger without the correct documentation - visa, return ticket depending on visa then it could be fined. Thats why they check all the documents before you get the boarding pass.
Re-writing international rules is nonsense. The international certifications and practices observed by responsible nations cannot be cancelled or abridged by Russia as an act of national sovereignty. Turkish Airlines, for example, takes a high risk in flying to Russian destinations where spare parts and trained maintenance crews are limited in what repairs can be accomplished to make the plane flight-worthy. Regarding Cuba, Venezuela, and Mexico, Turkish Airlines or other carriers should not be forces to play a game of in-transit 'hot-potato' with stranded travelers who don't qualify for a destination country entry and can't pay for a return flight to Istanbul. The Kremlin has created this 'persona-non-grata' crisis for its citizens and its diplomats. This is not a 'wet foot-dry foot' refugee rule for Cubans escaping the Castro regime. To grant special privileges to Russian travelers that don't apply to the rest of the world is a sham and a tacit endorsement of Kremlin behavior.
Seems to me that, as bad as things are now for Russia’s commercial airline industry, things will be much worse when/if sanctions are lifted - someday. Assuming that the war in Ukraine continues until the day it stops, Russia’s fleet of AirBus and Boeing airliners will be entirely junk. Even if there are a few airworthy airframes still operating by then, the work and parts required to bring them up to world standards will be more expensive than they’re worth. So those will also join the scrap pile. Russia will be back to square one and will have to reconstitute its commercial air fleet from scratch. Not just planes, but also all the infrastructure, training and supply chains that will have to be reestablished. It will take the country and its airlines years - maybe decades - and billions of dollars to bring all that back to pre-2022 levels, if ever. And, as others here have commented, there’s the matter of settling with the companies that had lease contracts with the various Russian airlines. They’ll want their money back - plus interest and penalties - before a single Boeing or AirBus plane leaves the factory. And those leasing companies will surely get their money, one way or another, first before anything else happens. So, what’s happening with the Russian commercial airline industry isn’t a disaster in the making - it’s a cataclysm that’s coming soon. And as the war and sanctions continue, so the country continues to dig a hole for itself that it will never get back out of, no matter what happens. What I could see happening is, after the war ends in Ukraine’s favor and sanctions are lifted, business will be cash-only and paid in full in advance for Boeing,AirBus and any company in the commercial aviation industry. Even the tiny companies that produce in-flight snacks for passengers will want money up front. And if Ukraine is defeated, Russia’s commercial airline industry will be basically dead. They better get used to the idea of taking long rides on the Trans Siberia Railway - if that’s even still running by then. Thanks again for the great video Joe. 🙂
As the Russian economy has become more focused on the war, Russians have also become unsustainably reliant on war-related payments. The government refuses to curtail subsidized mortgages because of a powerful lobby of property developers. The arguments from the central bank that these loans create an additional inflation pressure, cementing inequality and distorting property prices, have been ignored by the Kremlin. More than 60 percent of loans are issued to people who will spend more than half their income repaying them. Increasingly, the loan programs are being accessed by recipients of war-related payments. If the war ended, it would become extremely difficult for them to service their loans, especially in the face of rising prices.
According to the Financial Times, Russia owes US$10 billion on the leases of the planes it has grabbed. When a lease expires, the leasor would normally take the plane back - it has a residual value - so there is _another_ cost that Russia will need to pay.
The US border has had issues with Russian speaking men arriving with zero identification claiming asylum. Russia is not on listing of countries able to claim asylum, but here’s the issue - Russia refuses to accept the return of these Russian speaking males so they’re permitted into the U.S. with a court date using the identification of the Russians proclaimed name. Same exact scenario occurring for a Chinese males. I live 1hr north of Mexico. Not only is this known amongst us because US border agents live in all our neighborhoods, there’s actually Chinese and Russian identities discarded at the fence along with currency. There’s a a YT video with the sheriff out of Yuma AZ and the border indeed is littered with passports and money from around the world.
Before the Georgia war I was dreaming about going by Transibieria railroad all the way from Helsinki thru Mongolia and to Beijing. After Georgia war I sold all Russian funds and decided I will never have anything to do with Russia again. Some years later a guy from my bank called me Its time to buy Russian funds. I said no thanks I dont buy Russian funds of political reason. I am happy I took that decission today.
American Jews overthrew Kiev in 2014 and started killing Russian speakers in Donbass by the thousands -- man, woman and child. Their intent was EXACTLY to provoke Putin to come save those people and then goad the Russian bear into a fratricidal cataclysm to depopulate Ukraine for Israeli lebensraum. Why has (((Kiev))) completely refused ANY negotiations to save millions of Ukrainians in a hopeless war. Zelensky has murdered an entire generation of Ukrainians. Putin entered Ukraine to save Donbass civilians and to keep USraeli nukes off his border.
Like everything else, it will grind to a halt very, very slowly. IMO., it won't be an issue until the proletariat can no longer afford to feed themselves.
That sounds about like a reasonable time frame. There's undoubtedly a black market flow of spare parts into Russia but that can't be sustainable for a national fleet of aircraft.
Maybe the Russian embassy doesn`t know how to read English and Turkish.If they did they probably wouldn`t be bitching.Unless Russian Embassy officials want to get their own family members out of Russia too at reduced prices.
Yeah I think it's a bluff I think Russia is extremely happy about this because it makes it harder for people to escape the country and dessert hence the reason for proof of a return ticket proof of hotel reservations in things of that nature
Unfortunately it's not just 1 man's ego. A majority of the Russians support the war, and many of them would just act like Putin or even worse if given the chance. At this point, pretty much everyone has been brainwashed and there's no going back.
Why dont you say anything about russia confiscating the planes, witch russian companys had on lease with western leasing companys, at the beginning of the invasion in feb 2022?
All major parts are lifed and have to be removed and sent back to the manufacturer for service, obviously this is not happening - the parts they are taking from other aircraft may already be life ex!
It's not like a car. They don't just order a part. All components must be matched with the plane's serial number. More likely these planes will be loaded with counterfeit parts out of China. Only a matter of time before disaster strikes.
I wonder how Russia will react when their remaining air fleet starts falling out of the sky? There have already been a few airline accidents but not nearly as many as I expected.
Parents took the Siberian Express train from Moscow to Vladivostok in the 1980s. They enjoyed the adventure but remarked they didn't realize how large Russia was!
Now they have to have a paid Visa for the specific south american country they are going to, a return ticket, and proof of Hotel they are staying at to get into South america. Also good luck getting into mexico or america with a russian passport....not happening.
Yep Buddy, see my post. Totally agree. People can’t handle the truth. Men-children that dress in clown outfits, baseball caps, sneakers and track suites. All taught the same phrases. Americans good and Russians bad. Joe is LAZY and pretending to be objective.
This is a puzzling episode. One would think it routine for international carriers to be telling passengers about the need for hotel reservations and return tickets, and maybe even turning them away from the departure gate if passengers don't have that basic documentation? In what respect does the practice of Turkish airlines here depart fundamentally from the norm? And as you yourself point out, it all makes common sense, not just for Russian passengers going to South America, but for every other international traveler going to some foreign destination. So, my question: how or why is this news? It all seems to be a bit of a non-issue?
Many airplane parts, have a known length of time they can be in service, before they can suffer a "fatigue failure", including the hubs of the engines which hold the turbine blades. Failure can mean, that the hub flies apart, and heavy titanium parts can be thrown through the cabin space (and, people in their seats). It happened before, when the inspection procedure was improperly done. Happened on the ground, on takeoff, so the whole plane wasn't lost. A&P experience
I remember watching a particular programme about bogus airline parts and how they were causing major problems in the safety of the aircraft and the passengers, this problem is very prevalent even in European and American Airlines so what is it like at the moment in Russia, I certainly wouldn’t like to be flying on Russian airlines at the minute
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If you give the information with serious face try to be accurate . Russian citizens don't need a visa to enter Mexico, Colombia or Cuba.
@@alexsteel2918 I wish them good luck flying there 🤣
Whenever I fly to Africa or Asia we are required to show a return ticket, give the address and contact details of where we are staying, say whether it's for work, tourism or other reason, and prove we have the necessary visa. Some allow you to land without a visa and buy it at the airport, but if you don't you get put on the next plane back to where you came from. So I don't know why the Russian embassy expects to be any different. 🤷♂
Imagine China sees this and is like, "We want Serbia back." China has instant air-supremecy, Manpower advantage and RU would be looking at a war on two fronts... China would just get territory. I doubt RU could do much more than cry about it.
RU is going to be crippled by these sanctions for DECADES.
My thought is that Russia now has no choice but to continue hostilities. If they capture UA, theyll have chemical production rivaling Germany plus extra food once its all fixed up. From there he can springboard into NATOs eastern border.
Putin has been clear- He wants the old Union back and hes willing to stop at pretty much nothing to do it.
Ireland is one of the largest providers of aircraft leasing and was badly burned by Russia who in effect stole their aircraft by not paying the leases and not returning the aircraft. Russia will not be able to get aircraft leases for many many years.
Thank you for the informative comment. I knew Ireland did a lot of leasing but I didn't know Russia screwed then over so. If my grandmother is any indication, the Irish have a long memory and you are right.
As an american, i enjoy how polite you europeans are. An american would have said "they rented the planes and then stole them!!!"!lol.
We are both correct, but one is much more polite about what happened.
@@fdllicks Yeah, but compare that to the clueless/confused US commentary on the absolute hiding the Tories took in the elections last week. You'd think the entire US news media was a useless and foolish as NPR.
There's also a problem with these seized planes: the tracking of the spare parts and servicing. When a part is serviced or replaced on an airliner, it's vitally important that there's a 'paper trail' of what was done and what was replaced. The servicing also has to be carried out by an approved technician. All of these seized planes now have a 'broken' paper trail, which makes it impossible for them ever to fly outside Russia legally again (and if any of them did land at an airport outside Russia, they'd be immediately impounded). Even if the airline manufacturers and the leasing companies got their hands on these planes again, all of them would have to be scrapped because of this broken chain of information.
When the war on Ukraine is over, you can imagine the attitudes of the leasing companies too (and there are only a few of these): they'll want to be paid in full for these 800+ planes before they'll even think of leasing any more planes to Russia. An Airbus A330-200 has a list price of US$238.5 million. We're talking about nearly $200 billion to compensate the leasing companies before they'll even begin to replace all those aircraft. Hardly any of the aircraft Russia used were owned by Russian companies, btw. Virtually all of them were leased. It doesn't look to me as if there'll be much of an airline industry in Russia even after the war's over.
This is the problem with doing business with a criminal organization.
One Problem Russia faces is: Most Soviet Aircraft Engines use Parts from Ukraine. There was even a smuggler Ring which got busted in the End of 2023, which still delivered Ukrainian Parts to Russia, so that their Tupolev Aircraft could stay in the Air. So even older Soviet Aircrafts will cease flying soon.
I didn't know that. This brings it to an even higher level.
Ruzzian embassy is taking interest in this, because these Russians are those from the upper class. Those people, who were never going to be sent to Ukraine.
A guy from Finland
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Exactly.
You didn’t mention that Russia stole Irish owned aircraft
Russia has a major fleet of airplanes from Irish … that they are leasing from Irish… Russia should give it back but they didn’t they stole the billions of dollar from Irish worth of airplanes … why nobody is talking about this anymore ?
Pay the Irish back with the frozen Russian assets
The Irish shouldn't have leased so many planes to Russia, similar to all other companies, anybody who wants to invest in Russia in the future does so at their own risk, it always was and is a rogue state!?!
It's not super relevant to this story.
Ireland needs to smarten up quickly by joining NATO. Irish Airspace will strengthen NATO and Ireland will be much more secure as an active member of that alliance. Tiochfaidh ár Lá!
There used to be a joke in the 90s. It said "now that the USSR has fallen, the only way you will be killed by a russian is flying Aeroflot"
No Boeing, please 😅
I was there then, and promised my husband I would not fly Aeroflot.
@@Infopirateshahaha boing 😂
Yeah, remember when that Russian pilot let his child fly the commercial jet? Didn’t end well.
@@JohnnyinMN it was many years ago. What about Boing company these days? 😅😅😅 Do you like Boing 737 Max? 😁😁😁
I spoke to a very good friend, who is a senior person with Airbus, last weekend and we discussed the current and long term situation regarding the airbus aircraft currently in Russia. The issue at the moment is that the aircraft have not been properly serviced so have been disowned by Airbus. Even if the war stops and the sanctions are lifted, those aircraft will still not be able to fly anywhere outside Russia as Airbus will not allow it until such time as each and every one has been subject to a detailed inspection and issued with an air-worthyness certificate. That process will take an enormous amount of time.
russia is not very big on maintenance, coupled with corruption, I'm surprised that they have any planes in use.
“Disowned” but still in flight. Money changes hands, the planes goes up, people fall out of the sky. Airbus looks bad.
@@war-painter Airbus had an office on Moscow and made it clear to the Russians that the aircraft were not to fly. as the maintenance schedule was not possible to be adhered to due to the sanctions. Russia changed its laws to enable them to continue to fly them but only inside Russia so Airbus has no responsibility if one of them falls out of the sky.
@@war-painterno Airbus no longer warrants that object .... please stay real !! Or better stay away from RUclips.
100% correct. As far as the international aviation community is concerned, those planes may as well not have been touched by a mechanic since 2022, whether or not that's actually true. Any records provided by the Russians testifying to proper maintenance may as well be written in crayon because no major country will accept some Russian jalopy flying overhead in their airspace and the massive liability that would cause. As such, the only recourse would be to recertify those planes, which is both time consuming and VERY expensive. Even if Russia voluntarily repossessed the planes to avoid recertification fees, the planes will be destined for the boneyard. Getting new leases after the trust they broke when they stole the planes will result in a middle finger and "pound sand" or if the lessors are feeling particularly generous, they could agree but under the terms of a very high rate due to the risk of potential loss again. The "plane theft" by Russian airlines royally screwed the pooch in the worst possible way, and now it's going to be a very slow and painful death for airlines like Aeroflot.
No leasing company will touch them after they burned them by keeping the leased planes and NOT paying for them ..
They have paid money to buy some of the airplanes recently....I think that is so they can fly out of russia without getting seized at foreign airports.
Russian just nationalises everything they possibly can. But when the west even talks about it, Putin starts crying like a little bitch.
@@jtf2danwhy would they pay for something they don't have to they must owe the aircraft firms millions they have seized other companies assets they haven't paid for those companies ( I know there were token payments involved but nowhere the full price/ full value of said companies)
@@jtf2dan when?
@@jtf2dan A nice story..without any reference...
Didn’t the Russians steal all the leased Jets from Ireland 😂
yes, Irish based leasing companies
I think Russia will be forced to compensate for that in the future...if they want to have any flights to EU or US.
@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT😂😂😂😂
@@Infopirates You are everywhere on this page spamming and troIIing!
Joe Blogs please remove this troII? Thanks.
@@Pippie5555 is it Western democracy and freedom of speach? 😅😅😅
I've brought a lot of pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian bots here😁
Losing 80% of your civilian air fleet has got to impact the number of flights BIG TIME
The Russians didn't lose their foreign (mostly leased) fleet, they stole it. And now they're finding out the hard way that they are flying fewer and fewer of those stolen airliners because they can no longer obtain OEM spare parts and thus are grounding planes and using them for spares. Yes, there are far fewer flights -- domestically -- than ever. And because they cannot fly their stolen aircraft into other countries (no longer certified as airworthy and also would be grounded for being stolen in the first place), they are relying on other countries that are willing to fly into and out of Russia such as Turkish Airlines. Soooo stupid, Ivan!
As long as the Russian elite have planes then they basically won't care, unless their plane develops a fault!?!
All those stolen aircraft are now breaking down. Maybe Tucker Carlson should take a bunch of Aeroflot flights and tell us how brilliant and safe they are.
In the early 80s I worked at Dulles international Airport, listened to a conversation between the tower and pilot of an Aeroflot VC10ski . Rainy night he asked for a straight in to land.Pulled off the runway onto a taxiway and ran out of gas!! 😮
Tucker thinks a store selling a fresh carrot is big time news
And get Steven Sagal with them.
😂😂😂😂
Russia did "steal" most, if not all, of the Boeing and Airbus planes shortly after the start of the war.
Yea from Ireland … Ireland leased bunch of passenger airplanes to Russia … Ireland lost billions Russia just stole it and didn’t want to return it
Not only planes but also western companies have been stolen
They strategically transported equipment to alternate locations?
I wonder how many of these planes are still flying? I seem to recall a recent emergency landing in a field somewhere in Siberia. It would be too costly to move the plane, so apparently it is to be abandoned.
Tit for tat is what happens when you first steal the assets of another country. Countries that stole Russian assets first can’t really cry when same happens to them. 🤷♂️
Actually Russia is not huge, if you leave out wastelands, useless tundra, swamps, etc.
Russia's main problem is that it's roads are crap, as the state has failed to maintain the roads and infrastructure that goes with it.
Corruption makes Russia lesser player.
Problem is you can’t just leave out those areas when traveling. You have to travel through, over or around them to get places. So Russia is huge and their main problems go far beyond just roads. It infrastructure in general. Either roads, rail or planes are needed for that travel.
@@seashackf1 Who wants to go to Vladivostok..
You can do alot with "wortless" tundra.
Look at China at the border to Russia.
One side are in full action at the Russian nothing happends.
No wonder China are getting ready with their troops to take back the east side that Russia stole back in time from China.
China are just waiting until Russia are falling apart then they go in.
@@pelimies1818 not me, but apparently crazy Russian people do.
I always thought that Russia had a vast network of railways. Aren't trains the main method of travel inside Russia?
I worked for an American Airline in the late 80's and the fine for the airline was $1000 per passenger landed without all of their entry documents. It is expensive for the airlines to land undocumented pax.
That's the reason migrants are trying to get to Europe by boats. Without valid travel documents, no airline will even allow them to board a plane in their own country.
We really don’t care if Russia is not happy
nope, we don't.
They're never happy. If I were in charge of a country, I wouldn't let any Russians in. Russia uses it as an excuse to invade.
I care - it makes me happy that the fascists are not happy..
@@publiusrunesteffensen5276 ukrainian fascists are not happy....so thats ok..
@@КомментаторЮтуба-л1т how can Ukraine be fascist , surely that is putler . . . . . .. EXPLAIN . . .
Having worked for various airlines, including Lufthansa, I was told that any passenger who manages to get on a flight and arrive in a foreign country will become the responsibility of the airline to pay any and all charges incurred. This included detention costs while waiting to be deported, legal costs of the country, medical, food etc. ALL of it is charged to the airline. So if a country has requirements, it is up to the airline to make sure they check anyone getting on their flight. Even if the passenger eats his documents while enroute, the airline will pay the costs for removing that person from the destination country.
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Plus, at the end of 2024, a 5 year agreement expires governing one of the oldest and biggest economic links between Russia and Europe: the transit of Russian gas through the territory of Ukraine. Kyiv has already said it will not extend the agreement. Russia would take a financial hit if it could no longer transport its gas via Ukraine. There are no equivalent alternative markets for the Yamal gas currently sold to Europe, and that will not change significantly, even with the construction of the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline to China (no earlier than 2030) and an LNG plant on the Baltic Sea (currently planned for 2026-2027). The combined capacity of those two new projects is approximately half of the volume by which supplies to Europe have already decreased.
@@christianevanherck6023 13% of the energy to EU came from the Ruzzia and Ruzzia got 85% of their income from that. EU is never going to be Ruzzias client again. Pootin lost massively. Mathematically Ruzzia can’t win this war.
Venezuela has required in transit passengers to check into the country and then pay the exit tax/fee to leave since the late 1990s. Russia can complain but it's been the practice for decades.
You cannot run a county that has 11 time zones and no roads without airplanes. At some point, Russia’s planes will start falling out of the air.
They have trains, that is their main method of travel....
Sounds like you are extremely jealous of such a resource rich country. Now they are getting their act together and rediscovering themselves we are in deep trouble. I mean, what is our biggest bragging point? The amount of debt we are in? How high we can crawl up the “Woke Meter”, our pretend Universities? Let me know.
They still have their railroads. Back to the 19th century!
@@jtf2dan😂😂 7 days to get from Moscow to Vladivostok!
Compared to 8 &1/2 hour flight..
@@jtf2danhow many trains and routes have ceased operations due to lack of maintenance? 1000s
Shouldn't Russia be made to "pay' for their stolen aircraft from their frozen overseas assets?
They will, for decades!?!
I've heard claims that they have supposedly paid for at least some of the planes. However, I wasn't able to verify this. In any case, I don't think the frozen assets are going to help. If Russia tries to pay for the planes using those, the US (and other countries that have frozen Russian central bank assets) are going to say that Russia can't use those but must instead use some other assets like the foreign currency it gets from its hydrocarbon exports.
They will pay in economic decay.
Exactly. Seems a very good idea to me to use those funds to reimburse the leasing company, who can then repay their lenders. It seems Putin is running a thieves paradise. Trouble is they seem to be getting trapped inside their paradise, - burst pipes, burst dams, bust banks, etc.
*stolen overseas assets
The Russian and Chinese aircraft industry is focused on developing and building warplanes NOT commercial aircraft. That should tell you their national objectives.
Not now..Your info outdated..
@user-ck4kq8tw3x nice name Robo sexual
Russia is, China is trying to develop its own military jets (Which it has quite a few so the posters point is valid) and one civilian jet but the civilian plane has not been certified for use outside of China, Russia can order 800 for 2040 if they pay upfront!?!
Great point !! I agree ! Tells a lot about the country.......
@@КомментаторЮтуба-л1тoutdated....? You are outdated you = Ruzzian-troll .
The airline problem is another nail in the Russian Federation coffin.
Along with the collapse of Gazprom highlighted yesterday by Konstantin.
What drugs are you on that you're fantasizing that the Russian Federation is in a coffin?
You live in parallel universe. The only coffin I see is ukraine, EU and NATO.
@@vostok2360 Little joker, there’s nothing going wrong with NATO, just Russia is on its self destructive path, lead by the biggest leader of all times, little Adolf Putin. And you, little joker, gets sucked into this men-eating machinery. Don’t you realise that Putin doesn’t let any witness survive? Look what happened to the DNR/LNR leaders, all are dead by now, no one of 2014 exists. But ignorants realise too late what’s posing on.
@@vostok2360 LoL russian kgb/fsb troll
Russia flying with stolen airplains.
Sukhoi superjet is Russian 😅
Yes Friedhelm, exactly.
Plus pour longtemps 😉
@@Infopiratesstill they are thieves !!
@@Infopirates It's also unreliable.
The hilarious thing was watching Xi arrive in Europe on his "presidential" American made Boeing 747.
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Thanks for the endorsement, Xi!
Asshat.
Xi is such a nice guy that he "lets" his politicals rivals fly the superior CCP domestically build planes.
Inderdaad , en maar schelden op Amerika, Europa , Australie , Japan , Zuid Korea het westen dus , maar alles wat die landen gebruiken is gemaakt of uitgevonden in het westen , computers auto"s vliegtuigen , chips telefoons , kleding etcetra etcetra .
@@willvangaal8412why are you Dutch obsessed with communicating in a language absolutely no one understands? Some kind of megalomania or childish entitlement?? 🤔🤪
It's about time that Turkie follows NATO's rules as being part of it. Regardless, Russia just watched "Back to the future", to the 80's or 70's. Good job Mr Putin.
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Oh! Dear, how sad. Never mind, more tea anyone?
Depends on who is pouring it! And no I dont want to se the view from the window!
@@Lindsay1050 Good one
Nice hot tea ☕.
And by "hot" I don't mean containing Polonium.
Russia - Fast Forwarding to the Past 😂
They never left the past, they're still stuck in the 16th century with putin thinking he's Ivan the terrible
@@williamjones9662 the biggest friends of Russia is the republican party in the US. The Republicans are not really known to be friends with "progressive" governments. Russia is faschist, or tries to be, they are really not able to. More like proto faschist.
Russia has always been a backward area, that's why they hate the west: we are making them look as bad as they are.
Time travel ...
@@bohdanburban5069 but only back in time....
Every country which allows flights to or from Mordor should be sanctioned.
They are endangering their citizens on the ground as Aroflot may fall rain from the sky.
That's...........a lot (unfortunately)
Just get Boeing and Airbus to refuse to sell them parts, then those airlines would soon be in the same boat as Russia. And refuse them landing rights in the USA, and hopefully the EU would do the same.
Get back in your 5 min city NOW
@@shopshop144 Boeing is the last plane I'd fly on, just ask the dead whistle-blowers
A further thought, Joe. You wondered why the Russian Consulate has offered its help to travellers refused boarding - surely it's because Russia has emigration restrictions and they want to know who's trying to leave. They don't really want to help at all.
Russia stole many of these planes.
Many? All!
The west stole $300 billion from Russia first.
@@Trevor_Austin Many is correct (and even most). Some of the Russian airlines did fully own some Airbus and Boeing aircraft. I believe this quantity is less than 20% of all the Airbus and Boeing aircraft in Russia at the start of the Ukrainian Invasion in Feb 2022.
Every one of these airlines flying to Ruzzia must be sanctioned. Complete ban to fly to European Union and use European airspace.
LMAO. Stupid is as stupid barks. Frau Genocide already banned Russia from EU airspace, and Russia responded in kind, which is costing EU airlines billions.
Very soon the Russians will steal all those commercial air planes still flying in & out of that pathetic criminal country!!!
Agreed
I cannot believe this has not been done……
Or only fly people out and don't bring anyone back
What was not mentioned here was that many of those Being and Airbus planes were being leased. When the war started, the leases were terminated by the primarily Irish based leasing companies and Putin refused to return the aircraft. He basically stole them. This is yet another example of if the war were to end tomorrow, it may be a long time before Russia returns to good standing with the rest of the world's businesses. In addition, assumably some of those aircraft being cannibalized are planes that they don't even own. The long-term prospects of the Russian airline industry are dire.
I think Russia did exactly as they should have (and knew they would have to do) when they put themselves up against the NATO consortium. What do you think they were they going to do, just send the planes back? Use your imagination and consider what would happen if the US was asked to return borrowed goods after they became engaged in a political war. Unfortunately, this can only be a thought exercise, because this never happens. Not because the US doesn't get engaged in political wars, but because they write the narrative which you are reading, and they would never admit to such. Just my opinion.
Two modern Tugboats were also stolen from Danish Mærsk, as well as Carlsberg brewery assets worth billions. German high tech assets as well.. The list of stolen values is endless...
What a lousy shit show run by a deeply corrupt megalomaniac war criminal 👀😴💩
Sounds like Russia turning into North Korea
That is the Chinese plan.
@renrutmat Xi wants Putin to bend a knee. 😉👍
Russians should start studying "juche".
Better than the us
@@dorothymoxham7520sure... 😴💩🐖💨
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Its important to make it as uncomfortable as possible for countries like India and Turkey to remain sitting on the fence.
Very little in Russia makes sense.
Greed and corruption creates parallel dysfunctional standards ...
That's RuZZia to everyone 💩
I suppose if I were a drunken, paranoid arsehole, everything in Russia would make sense.
I guess there is a downside to illegally invading a neighbouring country
Worked in Russia 1975 - 2015, travelling internally became so hazardous that we were not permitted to travel with numerous airlines due to accident rates. Domestically produced planes were unreliable & tended to be old aircraft, one flight Surgut Siberia had five attempts on the final attempt the flight got airborne two minutes later it had to return the airport. Imported aircraft provided safe reliable travel. Travelling Moscow - Sakhalin was via second hand 747’s if we were unlucky it was on a domestic equivalent which was totally substandard. Traveled on numerous Aeroflop domestic roots on US planes Moscow - Kazakstan, Moscow - Surgut etc, etc.
Ever heard the saying: "You couldn't pay me enough..."?
Paid the bills Russia was very generous fat safer in lot of respects to African countries 😂😂😂
@@joebannon9443impressive comparison 🤔👌
Good to know you survived ✌️
russia should have thought about all these things before invading their neighbour....
Yes...Just like unknown Ireland company which lost almost 50 billions - because somebody sanctiones Russian planes..
The Irish company won't get caught out by Russia again, they will have them pay through the nose for decades, similar to all other countries/ companies Russia has stolen from, any foreign capital it requires in the future will be at a very high price, think Venezuela!?!
@@TomTomicMic USA stole 300 billions...ask those money from them..
But, but...the military action was only to last three days. 🤦♀️
The plan was supposed to be a quick takeover of Ukraine, like Crimea in 2014. Unfortunately for Putin, things did not go according to plan...😢
Russia didn't return leased aircraft when contracts were terminated
Ruzzia = thief
Many Irish Single Jet Families Are Doing It Tough
Russia can go back to Soviet Union tech...i mean they want the old times back right. They can build propeller planes and steam locomotives.
A lot of Soviet tech came from Ukraine...
The russians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
That was Palestinians. russians use the opportunity to blame someone else for something they did to themselves.
The planes have been broken up and the parts used to repair all the washing machines and toilets they stole 🇺🇦✌🏼
liberated - not stolen - just amazing how the general population is living in the 1920's
You were in the toilets, that's how you know that...right?
Maybe it is about the chips and other modern electronic stuff
@JerryCans: Probably the opposite...they're using all the high-tech from the toilets and washing machines to repair the plane's!
Imagine the cockpit dashboard. There is now a toilet handle to lower the landing gear!
I'm sure they know neither the toilet nor washing machine will work unless they're hooked up to water right? :P
It would be safer to hitchhike in Nigeria than to board a Russian airplane
Ha ha ha ha ha ha yes!
That was true forty years ago on Aeroflot, and still true today.
Joe, 10:28 Just wanted to point out that Crimea is part of Ukraine. Please correct your video.
You are right no doubt about it, however this image is from a Rusky source so it is kind of expected that it shows it the way we hate it
Indeed.
It's a Russian map. As you can see, it also shows Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson as a part of Russia. Do you expect Joe to draw his own map? It would be needless extra work. Also, he can't change the video now anymore, at least not in that way.
Copium 😂
@@jetserbwhat is copium?
Putin will have no choice soon but to leave Ukraine 💙💛clock is ticking 🕰
Thing is, doing so will not help their economy one bit. The damage has been done already and cannot be repaired. Pretty sure russia knows this, and they also know that the only way of slowing their own collapse is to remain on 100% war economy footing until all their funds are gone and they have stolen everything they can from their population and companies. Unfortunately the only way that plan can continue is if they stay at war with someone. So if they keep waging war, they collapse eventually and if the stop they collapse even sooner.
Just my guess -- you'll be repeating that till the cows come home. There is a case to be made that the West is burning itself much faster than Russia is, simply because of the geography of this event. Russia is operating along it's own border. The West is essentially throwing billions (which it doesn't even have, as it is already debt-financing its own existence) into that general area, with quite dubious results. If you live in the geo-political West (like me), you have probably been hit with crippling inflation, which should continue to get much worse. But they will continue to feed us this propaganda of how Russia is collapsing, while our own countries are very enthusiastically going to sh*t. The key is not to look at the way things are today, but look at the trend in which things are changing.
@@rhwing5095 - My thoughts are that Russia, when they can no longer continue will be forced into a peace deal and get Donbas but lose Crimea. That's how I see the bigger picture and taking into account natural law. Dictatorships don't work or last because they take away the human rights and freedoms of the individual to suit the state. The Russians state is horrific in its abuses and it wont last. This is 2024, not 1824
@@rhwing5095I live in the West like you and the "crippling inflation" you mention has resulted in me going out to a restaurant for dinner one night less per week. So crippling. And I have an average salary, nothing special. Get real.
russia *is* collapsing but it is not the West saying that it is russia themselves. I suggest you start taking note of their monthly budget figures that they publish themselves. It's an express elevator to hell and going down.
Sad, but true.
Gee Russia. How many flights have been canceled in Ukraine over the past two years? What a joke!
There is brutal enemy attacking, not safe to fly in any measure. Remember Malaysian Airlines.
Nearly 10 years ago the Malaysian flight 17 passenger airliner was shot down passing over that region. Now Russia and Ukraine are at full scale war and there are anti-aircraft batteries everywhere to defend against warplanes, missiles, and drones. I wouldn't consider stepping on a plane in that region.
You don't have the option. The airspace has been cleared for years.
Ruzzia sure is paying a stupendously enormous price for trying and failing to resuscitate a Soviet Union 2.0 in Ukraine
@Schutze Spot on. Putin has painted himself and Russia into a corner by invading Ukraine and now they have no way back with the only option being to remain on the same insane path.
Thanks Joe. So glad that you stuck with it.
Stuck with what? Your tongue up his ring?
@@hughbarr8408Why are watching then?
Buggy bear - you sound a bit triggered 😂
@@supertuscans9512 Tongue up bear’s ring…
I don't think putin thought any of this through
He didn't think any of it through. The mentally ill of his type struggle with rational thought. He wrongly believed he could make up a threat to Russia, go and deal with it in a matter of a few weeks and bring Ukraine with its assets back into the Russian fold. Basking in all the acclaim and adulation from the Russian citizens that someone, with a fragile ego such as him, so desperately needs. That's the problem of believing your own BS in a country so corrupt as Russia.
He did.
He just thought it would take a few days.
A week tops...
Putin live in a parallell world that have nothing to do with the real world.
what is it about the Kremlin that turns whoever its "master" is into a barbarian who thinks smash and grab is a viable strategy?
A fascist dictator who is a raging malignant narcissist, has gone full mask-off. This is just how his mind works.
Many have said that Ireland one of the biggest losers when Russia stopped paying for leased aircraft from Irish leasing companies and did not return the planes.
Irony is that Ireland is not a member of NATO and has made no MILITARY aide to Ukraine. Nonlethal aide only I believe. That's as close to being a "friend" of Russia compared to how most of Europe has reacted to Russia after their invasion of Ukraine.
Seems like no matter how "nice" or neutral a country is to Russia that country will still be shafted by Russia if it suits them.
People want to leave the country, because too many are buying one-way tickets
Given that one of the stated reason the russians launched their stupid war in Ukraine was that there are russians living in Donetsk, also ditto Moldova and Georgia. So you could probably understand countries not wanting them to come and settle in Idaho and set up a new breakaway republic, I mean they already have a Moscow there, this would be just tempting fate.
Another great video. How folks can't see that Russia is collapsing socially, economically, and militarily, is beyond me. Keep up the great work as you provide details that are not ¨click bait¨ and show how rapidly Russia is declining. I doubt we will hear of any crashes as Russia is really cracking down on any video showing what is really happening. Love your videos and insights.
This is partly because like many modern collapses it's a disaster in slow motion. If it doesn't impact people directly they tend to be focused elsewhere. That's true in any country but there are people in large areas of rural Russia who have been going without all along and who never travel. And as you say, Russia, like Chine, keeps a tight lid on bad news so only those who are refused travel or have lost relatives in Ukraine have an idea of what's happening.
How folks can't see that the same Global Jewish Nation that wants to exterminate Slavic Christians also wants to exterminate American Christians is beyond me.
Wonder how Russia is still doing good after 2.5 years of Joe Blogg dissecting all industries of Russia as completely doomed and bound to collapse actually it sounds like its all wishfull thinking not really a reality, its actually clickbait because u baboons still hope that Russia will fail or loose the war ….
Maybe its because that in spite of what Joe is trying to tell you, Russia is still selling nearly as much crude oil as before the war, and is taking in Billions of dollars doing so. The unfortunate reality is they have 10% of the world market and the west is afraid if that got taken off the market the price of crude could double, unemployment would shoot up and inflation could rise. Where are our 'friends' the Saudis who could make up that 10% and could use the cash on their pie in the sky projects
Sanctions seem painfully slow, nice to see some tangible results.
Russia can use those Chinese golf carts to transport stuff around Russia....LOL
A decade ago, we planned a 4 day trip to St Petersburg. Before we were even granted a Visa to enter Russia, we had to show a return ticket, accommodation booking, and a booking with a tour group. Access to funds was also a necessity on entry. All normal stuff. So why should Mexico be different? If an airline knowingly flies a passenger to a destination where they will not be allowed entry, the airline has to fly them back at airline expense. Airlines apply this sort of logic at checkin EVERY time, not just in Russia.
You’re going down Putin,in more ways than one 👍🇬🇧🇺🇦
The combination of a failed war abroad and a brittle, strained system at home is increasing the likelihood of some sort of implosion inside Russia.
You are delusional.
The us are going 👎 in a big way
Biden your going down
Tires. Where are they getting aircraft tires because those wear out quite quickly. Without tires nothing moves.
The director of Continental tyres was threatened to keep its Russian factory open... There's a video from 2022 talking all about it. They make all sorts of tyres for everything. Germany was not happy.
Get a grip - they should tread carefully.
If an airline boards a passenger without the correct documentation - visa, return ticket depending on visa then it could be fined. Thats why they check all the documents before you get the boarding pass.
The rushist empire is starting to crumble
Excellent.
Re-writing international rules is nonsense. The international certifications and practices observed by responsible nations cannot be cancelled or abridged by Russia as an act of national sovereignty. Turkish Airlines, for example, takes a high risk in flying to Russian destinations where spare parts and trained maintenance crews are limited in what repairs can be accomplished to make the plane flight-worthy. Regarding Cuba, Venezuela, and Mexico, Turkish Airlines or other carriers should not be forces to play a game of in-transit 'hot-potato' with stranded travelers who don't qualify for a destination country entry and can't pay for a return flight to Istanbul. The Kremlin has created this 'persona-non-grata' crisis for its citizens and its diplomats. This is not a 'wet foot-dry foot' refugee rule for Cubans escaping the Castro regime. To grant special privileges to Russian travelers that don't apply to the rest of the world is a sham and a tacit endorsement of Kremlin behavior.
*"Wet-foot dry-foot".
Hy-phen-ated' brUh! 😆
So is buying under the table russian oil from unmarked shadow tankers plying the high seas. So why are the ruskies getting away with it? Hmmm?
Great point ! Thanks 😂
Well put!
Seems to me that, as bad as things are now for Russia’s commercial airline industry, things will be much worse when/if sanctions are lifted - someday. Assuming that the war in Ukraine continues until the day it stops, Russia’s fleet of AirBus and Boeing airliners will be entirely junk. Even if there are a few airworthy airframes still operating by then, the work and parts required to bring them up to world standards will be more expensive than they’re worth. So those will also join the scrap pile. Russia will be back to square one and will have to reconstitute its commercial air fleet from scratch. Not just planes, but also all the infrastructure, training and supply chains that will have to be reestablished. It will take the country and its airlines years - maybe decades - and billions of dollars to bring all that back to pre-2022 levels, if ever.
And, as others here have commented, there’s the matter of settling with the companies that had lease contracts with the various Russian airlines. They’ll want their money back - plus interest and penalties - before a single Boeing or AirBus plane leaves the factory. And those leasing companies will surely get their money, one way or another, first before anything else happens.
So, what’s happening with the Russian commercial airline industry isn’t a disaster in the making - it’s a cataclysm that’s coming soon. And as the war and sanctions continue, so the country continues to dig a hole for itself that it will never get back out of, no matter what happens. What I could see happening is, after the war ends in Ukraine’s favor and sanctions are lifted, business will be cash-only and paid in full in advance for Boeing,AirBus and any company in the commercial aviation industry. Even the tiny companies that produce in-flight snacks for passengers will want money up front.
And if Ukraine is defeated, Russia’s commercial airline industry will be basically dead. They better get used to the idea of taking long rides on the Trans Siberia Railway - if that’s even still running by then.
Thanks again for the great video Joe. 🙂
As the Russian economy has become more focused on the war, Russians have also become unsustainably reliant on war-related payments. The government refuses to curtail subsidized mortgages because of a powerful lobby of property developers. The arguments from the central bank that these loans create an additional inflation pressure, cementing inequality and distorting property prices, have been ignored by the Kremlin.
More than 60 percent of loans are issued to people who will spend more than half their income repaying them. Increasingly, the loan programs are being accessed by recipients of war-related payments. If the war ended, it would become extremely difficult for them to service their loans, especially in the face of rising prices.
According to the Financial Times, Russia owes US$10 billion on the leases of the planes it has grabbed.
When a lease expires, the leasor would normally take the plane back - it has a residual value - so there is _another_ cost that Russia will need to pay.
@@oldcynic6964 I can believe that. I’m sure that’s the least the lease companies will want.
Maybe Turkey should remind the Russian Foreign Ministry that Turkey is a MEMBER OF NATO (& presumably hopes to remain a member.) 🤣
These planes must be flirting with cascade failures every flight. Disaster dominoes.
Falling is just like flying only with a more permanent destination. ~ Russian proverb
Sanctions do work. Given time.
I love the irony about only using OEM parts to keep Boeing aircraft safe!
They'll be using carts and mules soon ...
The US border has had issues with Russian speaking men arriving with zero identification claiming asylum. Russia is not on listing of countries able to claim asylum, but here’s the issue - Russia refuses to accept the return of these Russian speaking males so they’re permitted into the U.S. with a court date using the identification of the Russians proclaimed name. Same exact scenario occurring for a Chinese males. I live 1hr north of Mexico. Not only is this known amongst us because US border agents live in all our neighborhoods, there’s actually Chinese and Russian identities discarded at the fence along with currency. There’s a a YT video with the sheriff out of Yuma AZ and the border indeed is littered with passports and money from around the world.
Be aware of the fifth column mentality those nutters live by!
i understand a flight is leaving moscow for siberia and half of the left wing is missing.
Russian stronk, only need half wing
They only need the right wing
There was a huge flow of pregnant Russian women who wanted to travel to Argentina. They didn't want their kids to die in senseless wars.
Maybe a Russian hot air balloon , Russian hot air transport!
Everything is flying according to plan 🤡
Tip for another video ; - the import of foreign medicines has stopped. Making enormous problem for healthcare.
That vast country without air transports must be a nightmare. It's all according to Putin's plan.
Even before the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine, traveling to Russia was a real chore
Before the Georgia war I was dreaming about going by Transibieria railroad all the way from Helsinki thru Mongolia and to Beijing.
After Georgia war I sold all Russian funds and decided I will never have anything to do with Russia again.
Some years later a guy from my bank called me Its time to buy Russian funds.
I said no thanks I dont buy Russian funds of political reason.
I am happy I took that decission today.
@@Molt.-ep7cu1 👏👏👏
American Jews overthrew Kiev in 2014 and started killing Russian speakers in Donbass by the thousands -- man, woman and child. Their intent was EXACTLY to provoke Putin to come save those people and then goad the Russian bear into a fratricidal cataclysm to depopulate Ukraine for Israeli lebensraum.
Why has (((Kiev))) completely refused ANY negotiations to save millions of Ukrainians in a hopeless war. Zelensky has murdered an entire generation of Ukrainians.
Putin entered Ukraine to save Donbass civilians and to keep USraeli nukes off his border.
When does the Russian fleet essentially quit flying - 3-5 years?
When NKorea stopped flying? You PPL are dillusional feed by propaganda fairytale.
several aircraft have already been grounded, and as they dont have parts to fix them...they are useless to them now
Like everything else, it will grind to a halt very, very slowly. IMO., it won't be an issue until the proletariat can no longer afford to feed themselves.
These need constant maintenance. C check is every 20-24 months. They are not able to do that.
That sounds about like a reasonable time frame. There's undoubtedly a black market flow of spare parts into Russia but that can't be sustainable for a national fleet of aircraft.
Maybe the Russian embassy doesn`t know how to read English and Turkish.If they did they probably wouldn`t be bitching.Unless Russian Embassy officials want to get their own family members out of Russia too at reduced prices.
Yeah I think it's a bluff I think Russia is extremely happy about this because it makes it harder for people to escape the country and dessert hence the reason for proof of a return ticket proof of hotel reservations in things of that nature
Well, Turkey won’t take them because THEY’LL have to fly them back when they can’t enter the country.
Music to my ears
Russia is a dead duck. All for 1 man's ego.
Unfortunately it's not just 1 man's ego. A majority of the Russians support the war, and many of them would just act like Putin or even worse if given the chance. At this point, pretty much everyone has been brainwashed and there's no going back.
Oh 2/3 of russians are 100% behind putin and that’s no lie. This isn’t just one man’s ego. They’re programmed for triumphant servility.
Why dont you say anything about russia confiscating the planes, witch russian companys had on lease with western leasing companys, at the beginning of the invasion in feb 2022?
He's covered this several times in previous videos.
Nothing but laughter for this one 😂😂😂 thanks Joe
All major parts are lifed and have to be removed and sent back to the manufacturer for service, obviously this is not happening - the parts they are taking from other aircraft may already be life ex!
Someone once mentioned to think of Russians as Klingons, they're just different.
No. Klingons had a code of honor.
@@ianstewart6021
I want a Ukranian-Klingon alliance...
Piles I’d call them.
Orcs is the proper term... lol
Are the airlines that are still flying in and out of Russia funnelling spare parts into Russia? Who’s monitoring them to make sure they don’t cheat?
It's not like a car. They don't just order a part. All components must be matched with the plane's serial number. More likely these planes will be loaded with counterfeit parts out of China. Only a matter of time before disaster strikes.
Russia is starting to learn what symbiotic economies really means.
I wonder how Russia will react when their remaining air fleet starts falling out of the sky? There have already been a few airline accidents but not nearly as many as I expected.
Parents took the Siberian Express train from Moscow to Vladivostok in the 1980s. They enjoyed the adventure but remarked they didn't realize how large Russia was!
Türkiye to South America to the USA border. A lot of Chinese doing the same.
You can stop now... Nobody is going to call it Türkëyyëy or anything other than Turkey 😂😂😂
Now they have to have a paid Visa for the specific south american country they are going to, a return ticket, and proof of Hotel they are staying at to get into South america. Also good luck getting into mexico or america with a russian passport....not happening.
@@veroniquemontrois289 It was an auto-correct from a plugin. "Byzantium"
Thanks to your local Republican
They need to send their Max
Model to Russia.That said, I hear Chicken Airlines are makig a comeback.
Clucking hell !!!!
Russia 🇷🇺 literally fucked itself up 🤣
Like America and Boeing.
@@DK-ev9dg No like Ruzzia 🇺🇦✌🏼
Yep Buddy, see my post. Totally agree. People can’t handle the truth. Men-children that dress in clown outfits, baseball caps, sneakers and track suites. All taught the same phrases. Americans good and Russians bad. Joe is LAZY and pretending to be objective.
@@DK-ev9dgWhy? How?
Big Time 🇨🇦
This is a puzzling episode. One would think it routine for international carriers to be telling passengers about the need for hotel reservations and return tickets, and maybe even turning them away from the departure gate if passengers don't have that basic documentation? In what respect does the practice of Turkish airlines here depart fundamentally from the norm? And as you yourself point out, it all makes common sense, not just for Russian passengers going to South America, but for every other international traveler going to some foreign destination. So, my question: how or why is this news? It all seems to be a bit of a non-issue?
Love your deep dive videos. Thanks Joe!
Ruzzian nose dive videos 🎉
Many airplane parts, have a known length of time they can be in service, before they can suffer a "fatigue failure", including the hubs of the engines which hold the turbine blades. Failure can mean, that the hub flies apart, and heavy titanium parts can be thrown through the cabin space (and, people in their seats).
It happened before, when the inspection procedure was improperly done. Happened on the ground, on takeoff, so the whole plane wasn't lost.
A&P experience
I'm sure Russia will get parts through the back door via friendly countries ordering for them and making a premium
You're missing the point boyo
I remember watching a particular programme about bogus airline parts and how they were causing major problems in the safety of the aircraft and the passengers, this problem is very prevalent even in European and American Airlines so what is it like at the moment in Russia, I certainly wouldn’t like to be flying on Russian airlines at the minute