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BRAND NEW Haunted Mansion coming soon!
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2023
- Disney has revealed that there is NEW Haunted Mansion coming soon to Disneyland. With three new pieces of concept art, we can expect major changes to the exterior queue. Both inside the gate, and outside in Magnolia Garden. This update will also effect the space around Tiana's Palace. There is also a BRAND NEW Madame Leota gift shop being built at the Haunted Mansion exit.
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I'm not so worried about losing the transition buffer, because with the conversion of Splash Mountain to Tiana's Bayou Adventure, that whole region is now New Orleans / Louisiana bayou theme. Leota's carriage house looks like the perfect blend of the mansion's architecture, with the garden/natural elements found next door at the salt dome mine. From the other side it could look like a shed.
I think the design of Madame Leota's fits in well and will help transition from mansion to Tiana's more smoothly. It also follows the flow of the actual city. The storytelling will then be: Old New Orleans in the time of Pirates which transitions into the French Quarter of the early 20th century then into the Garden District/Uptown areas of the city where the giant mansions and very haunted atmosphere are located, followed by a more low country bayou aesthetic which leads perfectly into the new theming for the bayou adventure. It's backwards in direction from the actual New Orleans (the bayou/swampy parts are to the west of the city with the Garden District central, then the French Quarter to the east-ish) but it follows the same geographical/historical transitions. I can see the feeling of abrupt theme changes but that's more like modern New Orleans than anything currently in New Orleans Square.
excellent observation. I hope that Disney has that same vision for the aesthetic feel. Disney can hit it out of the park with this one.
Exactly! That what it looks like to me.
My thoughts also! I think it extends the New Orleans area into the swampy/ bayou type area that it will be
I bet the backside of Madame Leota's gift shop will be more rustic, to blend into the bayou.
I'm seeing the same Theme of New Orleans and have it all blend in together. It all makes sense.
The covered "building" in from of the train station looks like the popcorn cart.
I actually like the current non-ADA compliant system because it's basically a free fast pass. Same is true for Pirates. But it does require 2 to 4 extra cast members to manage it.
It's sad the garden is being removed, but the new queue is beautiful.
Good catch on the selfie stick.
I agree about the popcorn cart!
I also agree about the popcorn cart when I zoomed in I could see it!
Agreed, looks like it says popcorn.
@23:00 it looks like a popcorn cart, and the covering is an umbrella for cast members.
This all sounds great! As a wheelchair user, it looks to me like they're going to make the entire queue accessible. That will allow them to get rid of some accommodations around the outside of the mansion and free up a bit of space. As to the walled garden you started with, my guess is that the openings on the left and right (as we're looking in the concept art) are probably only to get a glimpse inside. The queue would go to the back side, loop around, and then head back out the same way you came in. Then finish the trip around the outside of the wall, with an optional detour into that covered space. A guess there is that it would be a left turn in, head to the end, all the way across the far side to the other end, then turn around again before a left turn out. That should leave spaces wide enough for wheelchairs and scooters, while making the turns possible in a chair or ECV.
For accessible entry into the railroad, pretty much keep things as they are, except the ramp up the exit would be along this new wall for the Haunted Mansion queue. Maybe - just maybe - they'd widen that a bit so there's more room for the wheelchairs to queue up and still leave room for passengers getting off the train. That gets pretty cozy there at times.
That structure by the railroad looks like a popcorn cart
With an umbrella next to it
@@genappithyyep, that’s what I saw!😅
Our favorite part of these videos is when you repeatedly indicate “right there” and point at your screen and we have no idea what you’re pointing at…
It shows that you’re so excited about the content that you forget that we aren’t there with you.
Your enthusiasm is contagious.
Yep don’t forget to add those
Red Pointing arrows for us
@@lindamemo5224 It would be cool if he had one of those systems they use during football games where he can draw on the screen. I believe it’s called a Telestrator.
Also earlier he mentions the popcorn cart and then later wonders what the thing in the art is which is very obviously the popcorn cart.
@@mushieslushie Yes! David has the awesomest quirks.
@@mushieslushie The best part is, the popcorn cart in the concept art actually says "popcorn" on the side! Still, I appreciate David being willing to admit when he isn't sure about something. I love analyzing the art to try to glean hidden details.
I don't know if they are rushing the transition between Haunted Mansion and Tiana's Bayou Adventure, because they would match. The transition space was needed when Splash Mountain was there, because the areas are in stark contrast. Plus the concept art makes the new shop building looks like it's supposed to be there. Like it's a carriage house for the Mansion.
It’s hilarious that people been begging for tomorrow land update for decades but New Orleans get an entire upgrade that no one asked for. 😂 all these upgrades look beautiful so can’t complain
This just makes us think that something big is being planned for Tomorrowland and they will tell us about it when they are ready. No complaints here either!
Agreed and the update to San Fransokyo that no one asked for. 😂
Madame Leota's giftshop art kinda reminds me of Lefeats New Orleans Blacksmith Shop/bar.
Bingo!
Yes! So many little buildings in NOLA look just like that, it doesn’t look like Oaken’s.
I’m really interested in seeing how they decorate the Haunted Mansion Holiday after this new queue will be expanded next year!
I think if you look at the overhead view using a map (or overhead in Disneyland app map), it’s easier to see how this can fit in. And yes, removing/relocating some walls, lawn, trees… both drawings will fit side by side using the fountain (wall) as a divider. Also I believe they are adding a ramp and an elevator for ADA which may use the new covered HM queue area. The overhead view and alignment really helps.
Disneyland did, in fact, announce a new elevator that will be built at the exit. You are correct. This will help with guest flow and improve accessibility.
The video we've all been waiting for!!! Nobody is going to break this down better than you, David.
True dat
As much as I dislike Disney's management, I'd like to applaud the Disneyland Resort for continuing to invest in projects that improve guest flow and experience. While I initially hated the idea of Project Stardust (lowering curbs and shrinking planters), it definitely was an improvement. Then came the reimagining of Plaza Point, Pelican Landing, Merlin's Magic Shop, Eudora's Boutique, ToonTown, Adventureland Treehouse, Tiana's Palace, and now this. Everything just flows together much better, and there is better utilization of space. Is it perfect? Of course not. But they seem to be doing a good job with what they have.
I've just been so impressed with everything the Disneyland Imagineers have done over the last several years. I think they have an above average crew right now, relative to other eras.
I really hated tripping on the curbs around the Plaza and Main Street in the dark. Not enough light in the park, but removing the trip hazards has really helped.
I am so excited to see how all this concept art is going to translate into the finished product. I think it makes sense to finally bring the HM merchandise closer to the attraction. I was thinking about Port Royal and honestly, based on your earlier news of brining more alcohol to the parks, I wonder if it could be possible to make the current Haunted Mansion gift shop into a Pirate's themed bar. They could do different pirate themed beverages and maybe some of those foods that are made in other areas of the park and then dropped off at carts. I can imagine the immersion around having a rum based drink to wash down a turkey leg after enjoying the attraction.
23:00 @FreshBakedDisney Thats the popcorn cart, most likely being relocated.
OMG you may be right
You can almost see "ORN" on the middle right.
@@FreshBakedDisneyI was yelling at my screen. 😂
On hot days the HM queue is BRUTAL so I’m glad they’re doing something, hopefully making it shadier while they’re at it.
I think merging the lands is the point. Tiana's Bayou (Splash) is part of Louisiana Square now and not Critter Country anymore. What I don't understand is how they are going to incorporate Pooh and Hungry Bear. I was talking with my Disneyland Crew about how it's almost like Frontierland stretches across the Rivers of America to grab former critter country, Tom Sawyer's, and the canoes. They should add something to connect them more thoroughly.
I see Pooh being replaced by something new (my thought was The Rescuers, which took place in the Bayou, where I can see it being a ride where we hop onto a giant leaf and "zoom" through the bayou to find the treasure before Madam Medusa).
i think critter country is going to take years to replace or update.. for some reason disney will only change aesthetics when its necessary
I think hungry bear can be change to hungry gator and switch up the menu with gator bites or other southern cuisine. As for Pooh the days may be numbered
Winnie The Pooh is now just Pooh Corner, which seems fitting.
@@jish55if you really think the Rescuers is replacing Pooh, you're on one LMAOOO
Whether or not it makes thematic sense for Pooh to be right next to New Orleans Square is kinda irrelevant lol. It's about what's popular and what's not. Pooh is popular. Most people nowadays couldn't name you a single character in the Rescuers 😂😂😂 Pooh merch flies off the shelves. Again, the Rescuers is a dead brand and probably has been for decades at this point LOL. It's like saying "I think they'll replace Tom Sawyers Island with an Angels in the Outfield attraction". Its like okay I get replacing Tom's Island but with what? And Pooh is even more popular than Tom Sawyer. And you're talking about the Rescuers? Come on. Would it make sense from a perspective of like transition from land to land? Sure. Will they eventually replace Pooh or replace him there and giving him a new ride? Sure! Will they replace Pooh with a less popular IP? Unlikely.
Someone gave an idea of replacing Pooh with a second Princess and the Frog ride. That's more likely tbfh. Probably not happening but much more likely than anything else I could imagine. I think it's most likely they'll just make a Pooh area isolated from the rest of NOS
Im so excited for this! The gift shop looks like it was directly inspired by Jean Lafitte's, which I'm all for!
When New Orleans Square first opened, Port Royal Curios used to be Mademoiselle Antoinette's Antique Shop and Beverly was the Cast Member who portrayed Mademoiselle Antionette. Edna Disney, Roy's wife, used to go shopping in France and New Orleans once a year and to purchases antiques and ahve them shipped back to Disneyland, then store them backstage in one of the warehouses, waiting to be sold. Once Fantasmic became a thing, the sales slowed down and eventually the shop was no longer as successful as it once was. This happened about the same time The Disney Gallery was moved to Main Street.
It makes a whole lot of sense that the water feature in the new queue and the half fountain in the new park are where the old fountain is because then they would not have to run new piping and can use the existing pipes.
The theming for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure will be different from Splash Mountain. The transition with the gift shop might actually be more complimentary to the new theming for Tiana’s.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the Pirates’ gift shop filling up the extra space. The WDW version of Pirates has a gift shop that’s about four times bigger than the DL one, and they have no problem with adding enough merch.
I have felt a little jealous of Momento Mori in DW; now we have our own HM themed shop. This makes me happy :-)
I think when you asked what that covered area is 22:42 I think that's just an umbrella next to the popcorn cart pictured near the stairs to the railroad waiting area. Similar to the popcorn stands where they put umbrellas to cover the drink/ice cream fridge that's usually with the cart.
I wonder if they will send guests “backwards” so the last thing you pass is the pet cemetery before walking in the front steps… that would be cool
I KNEW IT!!!!!!! I called it! I called it! They needed to merge Tianas Palace with Tiana’s Bayou Adventure. I was hoping it would have had something to do with the La Bouff House. But I like the idea of the sea captain too.
That structure in front of the train station I believe is the popcorn cart.
I've been waiting for your take! I didn't love this at first. Now, I get it and I don't hate it. One thought on that bandstand, I think it's going to be open on both sides, so that they can play to either side of the gazebo. Especially if Louis joins the band at some point (I hope he does), it's going to draw a crowd and now they can play to two sides.
My bet is that the circular fountain has now become a two sided fountain. One inside the garden wall and one outside with the brick steps. Also one of the gardens is supposed to reference Madam Leota so I suspect the statuary and items in the tree may be "floating" musical instruments and such.
You’re absolutely correct with your 2-sided fountain thought. It’ll be fun to see once it’s done.
The Mansion building (first picture), could be a Second Story Queue area (Jungle Cruise-like) OR a performance area (Captain Gracee greeting guests?)
The brick wall that separates the 2 spaces looks, like in the brick arch,there might be a fountain that backs the fountain in the haunted mansion que. The new theme also doesn't look like it will be conducive to the Halloween overlay.
I'm excited to see the wisteria pergola in the front yard section. That section of the line can get very hot.
It would be cool if the new shop didn't have the typical haunted mansion stuff. It could be more like a witch shop, full of tarot cards and charms. Maybe they are hoping it will give Mama Odie vibes and actually add to the transition between attractions. The shop doesn't match haunted mansion, but also doesn't look too out of place in a Louisiana setting.
thy need more shade in the queue with flickering lights
One of those planter areas by the haunted mansion is designated to be a service dog relief area. That will likely be moved. Maybe the area between hungry bear and galaxy edge.
It's an umbrella next to the popcorn stand. I believe that hand rail in the same enterance to the train station.
I’m dropping everything I’m doing now, for this. David is my man with this kind of stuff!
Wow, super interesting! It looks like the existing queue behind the pet cemetary will remain and its a pergola going up with plants and vines to create shade. Much more attractive, and practical then the 3 existing umbrellas. Lol!
I'm glad they're improving the queue for ADA, but I *will* miss riding with a friend who uses a scooter; both Dis-nerds, the "shrinking room" experience exiting the mansion is a fun peek backstage for us!
I suspect the ride experience won't change. I don't think they can fix that. You'll still get the peek back stage as you stay in the doom buggies and still have to move upstream back to the "shrinking" rooms and out. It's been a while since I've been in the full queue (and I'll have to do it again without my wheelchair buddy soon before things change again) but I don't think there are any steps in the queue - the short cut for chairs is simply because the current queue isn't wide enough in those narrow switchbacks.
Hi David, the green canopy on 22:39 is the register for the popcorn cart. It looks like the popcorn cart got pushed back near the entrance to the Disneyland Railroad.
I think the key reference point in the garden art is the corner of the haunted mansion to the right of the concept art. The pergola looks like it’s in front of the house where the current path is. This puts the green house parallel to the DLRR where the current switchbacks are.
The "garden area" to the right looks like it is a pergola with a vine (grape?) growing on top for shade. The entire area beneath this appears to be paved and so switchbacks could be fairly dense here. But that's reading a lot into concept art.
From the concept art, it looks like the existing switch back queue will just have an awning added to it which will provide much needed shade. I'd be surprised if they shortened up the space so less people can be in line, HM is too popular especially during the holidays. The extra queue space they're going to add with theming doesn't look big enough to accommodate the spill over the current space provides on busy days. I love that they're adding a HM specific shop, I'm curious if Port Royal Curios and Curiosities next to Pieces of Eight will change.
You had me at “new gift shop” 😂😂😂
The covered building next to the train station handrail is the popcorn cart.
I think you were right when you noticed the corner of the mansion, I think the new garden is where the current switchbacks are and the expansion into magnolia square will be minimal.
It seems to me they are using the mansion to tie Tina’s kitchen and adventure together and Tiana’s adventure will become part of the New Orleans land in some way. I think critter country is going to stay but it will be just the hungry bear and whiny the poo
The best part of this new reworking is it allows Disney to kick the Tomorrowland update way down the road.Nicely done!
I think the theming going from pirates to haunted mansion to princess and the frog is perfect!
With Splash now becoming Tiana’s Bayou, the ride is now in Louisiana and fully part of New Orleans Square. There doesn’t need to be, nor should there be, a transition between the Mansion and TBA. The transition will now occur between TBA and what’s left of Critter Country.
For the extended queue, I think you're off by 90 degrees. That fountain that you pointed to isn't where the fountain in Magnolia park is...THAT fountain looks like it would be just left of the concept art. .if you see the Mansion on the far right, you can sort of get your bearings as to where this might be. That green awning is close to the DLRR tracks. Unless I'm seeing this totally different.
I just did a Google street view search standing in front of the tree, just to the left of the bandstand. Looking toward the train station and it lines up VERY well with the concept art. Really helped me to visualize it. That being said, it feels like it'd be very tight through there.
That selfie stick joke got me! 😂
I'd love to see more one eyed cat merch and maybe even an on-ride photo. Or even just bring back the spirit photography. But if they just make a one eyed cat spirit jersey I'm buying three.
The gift shop looks like the one they have at Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World.
The structure David references at the 22:00 mark, back by the stairs that lead up to the New Orleans Square train station, is the popcorn cart that is currently in this area now. You can see in the concept art the word CORN on the side of the structure behind the tree. Love the updates to this area and Mansion queue.
I think that's a popcorn cart with an umbrella in the courtyard concept art in front of the steps to the railroad. Port Royal will probably become Tiana merch I think. I think it's obvious that Madame Liota shop is a more permanent solution to the quick fix random pop up Nightmare merch. Glad everything is getting a proper home!
Me and my boyfriend went to Disneyland on Monday and rope dropped! ive watched a lot of your videos and it really helped so thank you so much! Because of you my day at Disneyland was more efficient and was made easier! Thank you very much!
This is exactly what I was thinking. New queue goes to the current fountain. Rest of the gardens is reworked into a little area with the bandstand now opened up on both sides. Also the planters are made a lot smaller, around the trees, freeing up space.
Agree
So you think they will rid of part of magnolia gardens? Maybe I’m not understanding pictures
I still wonder about them closing the ride as they said something about adding an elevator. That’s pretty extensive construction, unless it’s more of an external lift.
The existing gift shop, I think is going to be Tiana’s, they will move her stuff forward since it’s hidden in the back.
The new gift shop, I think will blend well. They seem to be trying to blend everything together a bit more with the New Orleans theme. The new gift shop looks like a New Orleans metaphysical store.
Now, if they’d just have a haunted mansion themed restaurant…..
Hey @FreshBaked!, at the park to check out the area in question, and noticed the Mint Julep Bar is open and freely dispensing beignets and julep!
Was waiting for this since the announcement. You're the man!
Thanks for uploading this important yet spooky update on your RUclips channel. For Halloween 2023, I'm going to dress up as Sally Slater the tightrope walker whose portrait was seen in The Stretching Room sequence of The Haunted Mansion. 👏🏼👏🏼
Essentially they’re creating Tianaland between Tiana’s Palace and Tiana’s Bayou Adventure with the Haunted Mansion caught in between. The gift shop gives an added visual unity utilizing the same yellow/green color palette.
I think it is just concept art to give a feeling of style and color, not necessarily a plan. And as such it's been exaggerated. If I'm seeing this right, it looks like the pergola will go against the wall by the RR track and provide a view block. The fountain could be reversed in the drawings because it may have been undecided at the time. If you remove the brick planters in Magnolia Gardens and remove the fast pass area there should be enough room to kick out the que gardens a bit. I hope they bring back the bench where you could watch the train in the station. That was great for us train fanatics! Then I will be very happy😁
Thanks for this. I'd been having trouble picturing how this will all fit.
That looks like a pergola above the current switchback space that would provide shade, and also add in the garden theming. I dont think the queue is changing.
Yes, that's I came to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that
You know David's spent hours analyzing the concept art when he points out the selfie-stick
I would love to see the merch at port royal to consist of all pirates merch. I’ve always thought jt strange to mix the two. Bring on the pirates! I love the concept of the new shop for Haunted ❤😊
Also there is plenty of merch for Haunted Mansion and Pirates to have 2 separate shops. They did it at Magic Kingdom and they are doing it now at Disneyland
The green covered items in front of the train steps look like carts ie. Churros and/or popcorn. As for the Madame Leota store there is a sizable empty space behind the current cart to the right. I have sat there during Happiest Haunts Tours.
The transition between Adventureland and Frontierland (through the alleyway by the bathrooms) only works if you don't look back, because you can see the entrance to Adventureland whilst you're in Frontierland. So you have the log themes and the papaya roof. (I have a photo.) Lol! 😆
Happy almost Halloween season!!! Will be heading to the parks one week from today 🎃 🥳
A lot of these projects are like projects, Stardust scale projects. Just re-shaping pavers and planters. They could arguably have much of this done in a couple of weeks. The gift shop, however will take months.
I’d you zoom in, the structure towards the Disney Railroad is the popcorn cart that used to be at the front. You can even read the word corn.
Been waiting for your report! Thanks David and Fresh Baked!
My guess is port royal will be changed to accommodate a bigger quicker service restaurant..
Hello, thanks for the update! I’m super excited about it, it’s my favorite ride. I’m glad they are moving the store closer, I always thought it was weird to have the gift shop so far and separated from the ride. There is actually a lot of “dead space” between the Haunted Mansion and Splash Mountain. It would go back a ways from the outside vender and there wasn’t much there except trying to get side views of Splash. It’s probably enough for a cute little store. I think it will be nice to have more room for pirate Merch too. The little outdoor area between Port Royal and Pieces of Eight are where the Bootstrappers play when it gets really hot. Makes for nice acoustics too :) I know the move seems a little tight and different but I think we will be pleasantly surprised :D
This is the video I was looking forward too, always appreciate insights on projects like this! I feel like, when several Disney Imagineers went down to New Orleans a few years ago to get inspiration for Tiana's Bayou Adventure and came back, they envisioned a years long master plan to redo that entire stretch by the Rivers of America. This also completing the same year as the Bayou Adventure is no coincidence and works perfectly for a cohesive and great transition between the different areas. Keep up the good work Disneyland Ops and Imagineers!
Yes, get rid of the selfie stick couple! That made me laugh
New Orleans square is the best land fight me on this. im so glad they are adding to this land and making it more aesthetic!
This is a very interesting change, for sure. I really hope they do an extended queue treatment for Pirates after the Adventureland treehouse is done!
Hi David,
I'm guessing that the long green covered walkway on the right side is a down ramp for the ADA compliance. It won't (can't) intrude on the Railway Station, and looks like it will sit where the fastpass used to be. The new downramp can then connect to the current cast member access leading down to the portrait hall. The reason they are tearing up the current behind-the-wall queue area is because a certain amount of demolition will have to be done to be able to connect existing backstage ramps to the new access. Something very like this was being talked about before the pandemic, but was shelved for various resons. It looks like they finally came up with a solution to keep everyone happy.
David, if you're right about the two fountains in the concept art sharing a wall, then I believe that first concept picture has you orientated directly in front of the Mansion (obviously at an elevated position) looking south east towards Tiana's Palace
Maybe the back area (with the possible greenhouse) will exit into the servant’s area/back entrance
Especially since it won’t be used as an ADA entrance anymore!
Finally full shade for the current switchback area
Yep. That whole “garden” that David is referring to is simply a plant adorned shade cover like in the guardians queue.
Thanks for this video !!! I’m excited !
I think the structure in the background of the second concept art picture is a drink cart next to a popcorn cart. At first glance, it looks like it’s near the train station, but I think it’s closer to the beignet entrance
Seems like there was some wasted space from the old fast pass station they could use. The rendering also reminds me of the cue in Disney World.
FreshBaked. David, an aerial photo of this area shows the spaces to be on the tight side. Where Magnolia Gardens is now that used to be all lawn inside a low walled area. You asked how long the construction of all this will take? Disney are shipping in some Epic Universe workers and they'll have it done and dusted in a fortnight. But if they were to use the "Treehouse" crew, they'd struggle to have it all finished by October 2024. Interesting times, but I'm loving the way the Imagineer's are just upgrading little area's around the park. Long may it continue. Cheers, Chris Perry.
The lower right "garden" looks more like a pergola that has flowers and vines, etc draped on that would be above our heads. If you look to the side, you can see the tall wooden legs that would be suspending what looks like a garden on the ground.. The switch backs would be underneath the shaded pergola. This is what I see.
Looks like an ADA ramp that starts at the train station and goes down the back side of Magnolia Gardens covered by that green covering with a bridge in the regular old cue that goes over it for access to that back door entry.
Madame Leotas doesnt make it awkward; it blends the 2 alot better. It was to abrupt of a transition b4; this blends with both perfectly
They could use the new garden to do two queues like Pirates does. They have the layout for it.
I think the green structure in front of the entrance to the train is the current popcorn cart. Port Royal & Pieces of eight will become one gift shop for Pirates which means you have to move the Jack & Sally meet somewhere next to the Haunted Mansion
That’s the new location of the popcorn cart. Peep the little girl in what looks like a Tiana dress in the concept art also.
On my recent visit, I was lamenting that the old fast pass space was being neglected. I love the theming in that area. I am glad to see there are plans for it and that the statues and such will likely be repurposed. Haunted Mansion, along with Pirates, is one of my all time favorite attractions at any park (and I am a huge Star Wars fan). The old school attractions are the best. I just hope they don’t close the ride itself for that time period. Thanks for all of the details on the concept art. I enjoy hearing your expert opinions.
They sorta have a gift shop at the exit already with that cart out front
23:12 that’s a popcorn cart!
Port Royal and Royal Street Veranda needs to be converted into extended queue for Pirates
I like the fence! But I'm hoping they add interactive elements to the queue like Disney World's.
Disney bought a hotel across the street and demolished it to build a parking garage. They never followed through.
They closed Rainforest Cafe and the movie theater in Downtown Disney for a project that fell through.
Who knows why they do what they do?
Move the Madam Leota shop over a bit, the exit of the attraction flows into the store (I.e. Star Wars in Tomorrowland/ and Toonetown Micky’s runaway rail way)