8s vs 12s Electric Guitar String Challenge!!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @OzziePete1
    @OzziePete1 7 лет назад +784

    Do Ernie Ball have a string gauge set above the "Not Even Slinky"? I can imagine a heavier set being called "Are You F*in' Kidding" or "Dude Just Play Bass".

    • @patricksbarnard
      @patricksbarnard 6 лет назад +30

      Ozzy Pete they have 13’s but market them as baritone strings.

    • @brianarguello7576
      @brianarguello7576 5 лет назад +7

      Dean Markley makes some 13-56 , sturdy asf!

    • @jefferson4245
      @jefferson4245 5 лет назад +40

      Not Even Slinky's G cable can suspend bridges by itself.

    • @ardillapesadilla
      @ardillapesadilla 5 лет назад +1

      LOL

    • @maksqwe1
      @maksqwe1 5 лет назад +16

      Yes, the mammoth set

  • @northof50now
    @northof50now 7 лет назад +338

    I've only been studying guitar for a few years, but cannot get over the "hate" directed at Rob on other channels and here. I've never seen or heard the man say a negative thing about anyone; he's always positive, industrious, encouraging. Not looking to kiss-a**, but "green" seems to be the color of a lot of guitarist-RUclipsrs. Thanks for the vids gents. Thoroughly enjoyable over the years.

    • @garylinch3083
      @garylinch3083 6 лет назад +29

      northof50now The haters are always going to be there. Very sad.I guess it is a jealousy thing.
      I always feel inspired to go grab an axe as soon as I finish watching a Chappers and Captain video

    • @Michael_Wehrley
      @Michael_Wehrley 6 лет назад +15

      I guess everyone will have people that dislike them, but honestly how can anyone not like Rob? He's such a likeable guy.

    • @tomcraig8027
      @tomcraig8027 6 лет назад +9

      On every Internet forum be it guitars, cars, football etc there are swarms of haters unfortunately. My conclusion is they are largely people who are disappointed with their own lot in life and how things have turned out so vent on everything and anything as an outlet. They should be pitied.

    • @shovington67
      @shovington67 6 лет назад +9

      Everybody bases their opinions of people on the worst day in that person's life, when by shear chance the individual has mourning the loss of their most trusted canine companion, the break up of a long term relationship, or the loss of a job in a bleak economy. Frankly they just don't understand the back story behind the tone of the meeting. Relationships, even aquaintences take time to develop, and often need that momentary break through, where the two people find common ground and a degree of trust.
      That said, I believe that people are jealous of the Andertons/Rabea/Chapman group, because of their Internet and product success. What they see is success in a sped up time frame provided by the RUclips platform, and don't consider the time, back stories, and relationships it took to bring everything to where it is now.

    • @amcgrath5918
      @amcgrath5918 5 лет назад +5

      it's incredible, isn't it? tbh he's kind of the opposite of everything i appreciate in a guitar player, but his technical knowledge, his ability, his 'ear' and his enthusiasm are first rate.

  • @trickylifts
    @trickylifts 5 лет назад +326

    i've been using 0's and they play like air! not the best tone unfortunately

  • @NicholasHolman1
    @NicholasHolman1 7 лет назад +238

    SRV is instantly recognizable but i think it’s due more to how he actually uses an axe & less about his tone.

    • @johnnybrown9581
      @johnnybrown9581 5 лет назад +14

      Oh you don’t think it’s about the fact that his amp costs more than your house?

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 5 лет назад +47

      @@johnnybrown9581 That's one cheap ass house.

    • @theodordimov6518
      @theodordimov6518 5 лет назад +6

      his tone is pretty incredible

    • @cdreyes81
      @cdreyes81 5 лет назад +2

      Srv has one tone...

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 5 лет назад +6

      @@cdreyes81 no

  • @gamesandguitars3901
    @gamesandguitars3901 6 лет назад +50

    I use 7” strings and I have the best tone and no I didn’t leave out a decimal point I play in triple drop brown note

  • @Mitchnagel58
    @Mitchnagel58 7 лет назад +765

    The only thing thinner than an .8 guage string is my will to live.

    • @funkmasterjo_d395
      @funkmasterjo_d395 7 лет назад +53

      don't listen to Harrison, Hank. This comment is gold and I will be stealing it so thx

    • @daleweber2579
      @daleweber2579 7 лет назад +16

      Hank Dale here.
      For me, only thing thinner is the toilet paper I used in the bathroom.

    • @zach9680
      @zach9680 7 лет назад +15

      Hank Hill For me it's my penis.

    • @jasonlangford2689
      @jasonlangford2689 7 лет назад +5

      that comment is almost as good as propane

    • @racoonlover3000
      @racoonlover3000 7 лет назад +3

      Zach Black I'm sorry for you.

  • @NICKWAPPERER117
    @NICKWAPPERER117 7 лет назад +434

    Mad respect for Rob coming out and saying SRV's tone isn't a gift from God. I'm a major SRV fanboy but find it so annoying when people salivate over his amp and string preference. He was the shit though.....I'll never forget seeing him in Nashville. Dude almost set the damn building on fire. He opened the show with crossfire and tightrope and I almost had a stroke.

    • @modgiemodge261
      @modgiemodge261 7 лет назад +13

      Rob v SRV... just saying...

    • @AndruJorj
      @AndruJorj 7 лет назад +21

      As a drummer, I feel the same way about Neil Peart as you do SRV.

    • @ejfields7666
      @ejfields7666 6 лет назад

      Shilbo Shaggins Are you stupid?

    • @Nitsua_Atayha
      @Nitsua_Atayha 6 лет назад

      Nick From Cleveland lucky

    • @TheHumbuckerboy
      @TheHumbuckerboy 6 лет назад +4

      I admire Stevie as having been an amazing player but his tone was too abrasive and wiry for my liking. I love the Fender Stratocaster but personally I much prefer the tone that other guitarists have achieved rather than Stevie's tone.

  • @52Tele
    @52Tele 7 лет назад +130

    SRV used bridge cables on his guitars for strings - The Captain 😂

  • @hopguy666
    @hopguy666 7 лет назад +1002

    My doctor told me I have 8s.

    • @josuastangl7140
      @josuastangl7140 7 лет назад +8

      omg🤦‍♂️😂😂

    • @Fabelaz
      @Fabelaz 6 лет назад +17

      FeelsBadMan

    • @treversgoh
      @treversgoh 6 лет назад +1

      HAHAHA, nice one XD

    • @rockerseven
      @rockerseven 6 лет назад +2

      You sure it wasn't Walker that told you that?

    • @jland12
      @jland12 6 лет назад +10

      Relax, you're probably just two tens

  • @danielakerman8241
    @danielakerman8241 6 лет назад +8

    The most important thing I learned from this video is that it sounds awesome when you guys mix in a bit more of the room sound/distance mics when you’re playing!!

  • @DannyoftheAlpacas
    @DannyoftheAlpacas 7 лет назад +23

    I've been playing for 8 years(roughly) and I've just been diagnosed with a neurological disease which severely limits my strength due to pain. I was playing 10s and 11s on teles and strats and now I have to play 8s on a Mustang. I don't seem to have noticed a change in tone that much. More just because of the way I play with them which I feel is the key difference.

  • @seat_tones7723
    @seat_tones7723 7 лет назад +684

    Personally I absolutely hate jimi handrix's tone as well as jimmy page's, it hurts my ears when I hear them, however I love lil Wayne's tone and I would give anything for his rig and to play like him

    • @williamchasse1981
      @williamchasse1981 7 лет назад +29

      Reubenswagseaton nice bait

    • @jimparaster8236
      @jimparaster8236 7 лет назад +7

      Same here

    • @fetusmunch
      @fetusmunch 7 лет назад +50

      Reubenswagseaton I too hate Jimi handrix's tone. But I really do like Jimi Hendrix's tone

    • @BigEdWo
      @BigEdWo 7 лет назад +10

      oh my god. jimi handrix was such a bad player. yes i remember.

    • @dylanwebster283
      @dylanwebster283 7 лет назад +4

      You are full of shit he was awesome

  • @droonkeler6032
    @droonkeler6032 7 лет назад +345

    As always, never let go of your video editor!

    • @samtheinsaneshred
      @samtheinsaneshred 7 лет назад +29

      The edited Rob laugh killed me

    • @JHOLE21
      @JHOLE21 7 лет назад +1

      Twimpy Boy pretty sure rabea said he does most of the video editing and the amp set ups in another video. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't let rabea go!

    • @windack768
      @windack768 7 лет назад +6

      justin nolan Rory edits the videos :)

    • @jf3358
      @jf3358 6 лет назад

      Eclectic Music Discussion Club I

  • @jumbojane5592
    @jumbojane5592 7 лет назад +160

    I use 3’s and they’re pretty good

  • @BluesHeavy
    @BluesHeavy 4 года назад +38

    8's have a more articulate sound especially from string to string. 10's sound muddier and I think most guys who play heavier strings AKA SRV wasn't for pure tone it was based on his on his power and heavy handedness he played everyday and believe it or not if you play strong its harder to bend notes correctly with lighter strings you tend to over bend.

    • @phillipangeron9623
      @phillipangeron9623 4 года назад

      Vibrato final note .

    • @andrewalderman
      @andrewalderman 4 года назад +5

      This is true. Me being an acoustic player primarily, I use .011s with a wound 3rd, because when I pick up my electric, I find it harder to play in tune, being used to heavier acoustic strings.

    • @RogerThat902
      @RogerThat902 4 года назад +1

      @@andrewalderman Yep, that's why I prefer thicker strings as well. The lighter gauge feels like a slinky to me when playing electric. I can adjust, but I just don't like the feeling.

    • @mytelecasterworld3336
      @mytelecasterworld3336 4 года назад

      and i say...what's wrong with 9's????...

    • @larsoosterbeek2579
      @larsoosterbeek2579 3 года назад +1

      Yeah thats the reason I want to change to 10s. I can easily overbend 1,5 step bend with 9 gauge. Full step bend are becoming harder to hit for me haha!

  • @jeremyturner2873
    @jeremyturner2873 7 лет назад +30

    Regardless of string gauge, if you're not comfortable with what's on there your tone will suffer. Use whatever feels right. Playing with confidence and soul with a command of your instrument will have a much bigger effect on your tone that a few extra micrograms of nickel and steel.

  • @craigparse1439
    @craigparse1439 7 лет назад +59

    Just play the gauge of strings you feel more comfortable with.

    • @waynebrown1394
      @waynebrown1394 5 лет назад +12

      But Craig, we play guitar we have to argue tone wood, strings, pickups, amps, and who is the best ever it is in our nature. Plus what else are we going to talk about what people need to understand it is all in fun bullshitting with each other. But there our the 2 % that take things personal and take it to far and they are called trolls and losers.

    • @airgliderz
      @airgliderz 4 года назад

      Most comfortable = smallest diameter strings

    • @eldritch6871
      @eldritch6871 4 года назад +2

      @@airgliderz not if it means your fingers are slipping all over the fretboard throwing notes out of tune

    • @airgliderz
      @airgliderz 4 года назад

      @@eldritch6871 wrong again slick finger eld rich. Just because you have terrible control your own fingers, you need more practice. Your wrong again, you have far more and better control, far, far less finger slipping. Far better feel. Better yet, far better tone and tone inflections creating better music.

    • @eldritch6871
      @eldritch6871 4 года назад +4

      @@airgliderz you've said "wrong again" twice now. What was I wrong about in the first place? I don't recognize your name or remember having spoken to you before, but you sound like a real piece of work

  • @EwainW
    @EwainW 7 лет назад +29

    Surely it would also be interesting to have also tried using thicker strings on the shorter 24.75" scale length les paul, and thinner strings for the 25.5" strat as well?
    As the longer scale length of the strat would cause higher tension, but thinner 8 strings require less tension to make the same note, how would this then compare to feel and tone with the les paul with a set of 10s, or even 12s...?
    Obviously the tone would be different, but I'm intrigued to find out how it'd affect feel and whether the string tension would even out.
    Shorter scale lengths are easier to bend, as are thinner strings...

    • @HappyChillmore
      @HappyChillmore 2 года назад

      I just got this jazzmaster and the strings feel sooooooo loose it’s crazy. I’m assuming it came with 9s (or even 8?) but now I’m wondering if the scale length is shorter

  • @PHAN226
    @PHAN226 7 лет назад +6

    The disappearing strings in a puff of smoke was the best thing I've seen in any of your videos. Well done.

  • @deanandthebeans857
    @deanandthebeans857 3 года назад +2

    And whenever anyone does a string gauge shootout, they ALWAYS sit down to play, which makes playing easier. Standing up and trying to bend 13s accurately playing live is bloody hard work.

  • @budandbean1
    @budandbean1 7 лет назад +5

    Captain, Congratulations on Over 300,000 Subscribers! You guys really rock! Way to go Andertons!

  • @Unfaced85
    @Unfaced85 7 лет назад +100

    I somehow expected 8 String Guitar vs 12 String :-D

  • @seanhornibrook
    @seanhornibrook 7 лет назад +23

    Dick Dale (Surf guitarist) played 16 - 60s.

    • @Jacksonkellyfreak
      @Jacksonkellyfreak 7 лет назад

      DAMN

    • @codywolf3091
      @codywolf3091 6 лет назад +2

      SYNTHS!! well he isn't really a bender now is he lol

    • @leocomerford
      @leocomerford 6 лет назад

      3:30 And on his Strat, mind. It's not easy to find a reliable source for that exact figure or specific information on what the strings in between are, though. Still, that probably explains why he breaks picks left and right...

  • @CJZM7777
    @CJZM7777 4 года назад +4

    intermediate player here. I use 10-46 on 25" and 24.75" scale length guitars and 9-42 on 25.5 length. I've watched 3 videos on string gauges and think 8s have more clarity. I might give them a try.

  • @awpro7155
    @awpro7155 6 лет назад +7

    I moved to the 8 squad just a week ago and now I'm never going back. Took me a couple days to get used to the noodles I now play with, but now it sounds immaculate!

  • @SteveReynoldsGuitarist
    @SteveReynoldsGuitarist 7 лет назад +19

    The most important thing surely is that the guage strings you use have to be comfortable for you. No point having fat tone with 13s if it hinders your playing.

  • @mhandel
    @mhandel 7 лет назад +7

    I like 11 gauge strings because of the feel and tone I get from them, especially since Stevie Ray is probably my singular biggest influence at the end of the day. But also a big argument for using heavier gauge strings is you can get more sustain with less gain, which is why jazz players use them so much.

  • @Wargasm644
    @Wargasm644 5 лет назад +4

    As a metal/rock player I’ve used medium-heavy gauge strings for the longest time. I always thought they would give me a moderate-heavy tone. Especially chugging on the low E. I’ve run every brand you can think of but always liked Dean Markley and D’addario best. But in the last few years I’ve really got to say, I was wrong on the thickness issue. Every new guitar I purchased sounded fantastic with factory strings. So I wondered what they were. So I went to the ESP website and found my guitar came with Elixir 9-42. My new Jackson came with 9-42 as well?! So now I run these light gauge strings on most of my guitars. I thought they would sound “thin” and wimpy. Oddly, they sound heavier but with bite and brightness, if that makes any sense? I do however tune 1/4 step down just to add punch. And the results are utterly amazing. And the lighter gauge strings just sound and play more dynamically then my mid-heavy gauge string equipped guitars. I do have one guitar in drop D with heavier top strings (actual physical top E,A,D) and light bottoms ( GBE) . Those work pretty well for that application. But I’ve got to say, light gauge strings are totally amazing and I’m embarrassed to admit it took me this long to figure that out. I guess it took me a while before I got to a place where I could afford “new” guitars regularly. That’s how I made the discovery. All my early guitars were used or just second hand stuff I picked up from a friend of a friend or whatever. It also took me a while to figure out I got more buzzing out of my heavier strings. I don’t know if this is a result of the nut getting chewed up by heavier strings, or the fact that most of my early guitars had more than one owner? Whatever the case, light gauge (9’s) are the way to go for me. If you haven’t tried them, you’re seriously missing out.

  • @budjohnable
    @budjohnable 5 лет назад +1

    How could you dislike this video or any of their videos. I laughed the whole way through. Thank you both for making these videos.

  • @Mr.Goldbar
    @Mr.Goldbar 7 лет назад

    I use 8s on my Tele for F# standard and 12s on my Melody Maker for drop C

  • @jurgengosch1905
    @jurgengosch1905 7 лет назад +3

    This is the best video I've seen yet from Chappers and the Captain. Such great information and examples. Don't agree with every single thought expressed, but that's the beauty of it, right? Nice work, gentlemen.

  • @calumobrien9234
    @calumobrien9234 7 лет назад +12

    I do love it when people in the comments section or in forums get elitist about guitar strings. It makes me laugh. Ultimately, although guitar strings will make a difference (and I mean difference, not 'one sounds better than the other as a matter of fact'), you're going to sound best on whatever guitar strings feel most comfortable to you. SRV had a fat tone with 13-58s (I believe). Billy Gibbons has a fat tone with 7-38s. There's not really an argument to be made about which gauge is 'better'. It's like arguing about what's 'better' out of Gibsons and Fenders. Nobody is going to agree because everybody has their own personal preference, and rightly so.

  • @booyeah304
    @booyeah304 7 лет назад +202

    when I first saw the title of this video I thought it was going to be a competition between an 8 string and a 12 string guitar

    • @alexdattel2757
      @alexdattel2757 5 лет назад +2

      Bass wins

    • @rockerseven
      @rockerseven 5 лет назад +1

      So did I, and was wondering why they would randomly compare the two since they are no way similar, in that it's unlikely someone would be debating between the two of them.

    • @tintin69rr
      @tintin69rr 4 года назад

      I thought it was going to be speakers 🔊 lol

  • @blackie75
    @blackie75 5 лет назад +7

    I think it's more about what you like the feel of. I like the guitar to fight against me a bit. On a Les Paul that means 11s. Also thinner gauges tend to sound a little brighter and sustain a little better.

  • @101wut2
    @101wut2 Год назад

    15:40 - A thick pick? Tell me, what effect does pick thickness have on your tone?

  • @Purplehaze-ne2tp
    @Purplehaze-ne2tp 7 лет назад +306

    I use 5's. I sound incredible!

    • @timswarts2615
      @timswarts2615 7 лет назад +11

      Purplehaze4291 I use 11s on electric and 13s on acoustic

    • @Purplehaze-ne2tp
      @Purplehaze-ne2tp 7 лет назад +212

      I was considering becoming a complete tone monster and going so thin that i just remove the strings altogether and let the tone come from my fingers

    • @yuriyivanauvych8192
      @yuriyivanauvych8192 7 лет назад +35

      Purplehaze4291 bitch please I use 1' s

    • @Purplehaze-ne2tp
      @Purplehaze-ne2tp 7 лет назад +25

      Yuriy Ivanauvych Nice! Your tone must be god like!!

    • @Spidouz
      @Spidouz 7 лет назад +54

      what a joke... I have 0's, yeah, that's right, I don't even have any string on my guitar anymore, and it never sounded as great as now! Go figure...

  • @thatpeterboy
    @thatpeterboy 7 лет назад +4

    Regardless of gauge everything through Chappers rig sounded awesome!

  • @Tom_SDM
    @Tom_SDM 7 лет назад +6

    Fwiw, I often get more compliments on my tone when I'm using 9s tuned down, especially with my vibrato technique. The way I see it the feel makes the player play in a certain way, and that's what you hear as the difference in tone:
    IMO if you're playing more 'rhythm'/chordal stuff, especially clean, you may find that higher gauge strings suit you best. Think of the more piano-like tightness and resonance you get from an acoustic guitar's thicker strings.
    If you're more of a 'lead' player for whom being able to manipulate the strings however you desire and as easily as possible is the most important thing, use lower gauge strings. The late Mike Casswell was a firm preacher of this idea, in fact it was one of the few things he ever taught me during my time at ACM.

  • @uniqdzign2
    @uniqdzign2 2 года назад +1

    Stepping aside for one moment, I recently put 11-54's on a short-scale Strat' and dropped it to baritone tuning. Sounds great, and they are still as easy to play as 9's, which is what I was used to! It's all in what makes you happy, and the strength of your fingers! (I'm now 73, so not bending strings as much as I used to, but happy still to be playing!!)

  • @GetawaysandGuitars
    @GetawaysandGuitars 7 лет назад +59

    Tried loads of gauges over 30 years. I just find light top heavy bottoms, 9 - 46 perfect match of tone and playability ;0)

    • @jannevaatainen
      @jannevaatainen 6 лет назад +3

      I also prefer fat & juicy bottoms myself. Mmm. ;)

    • @marcusmcfall8167
      @marcusmcfall8167 6 лет назад +1

      I love muffin tops too haha but I think fenders bullet 10s work the best for the strats I use

    • @shoegazeforever8810
      @shoegazeforever8810 6 лет назад +1

      So does Malmsteem - perfect for Strats!

    • @12x2richter
      @12x2richter 5 лет назад +3

      I think Queen wrote a song about preferring a heavy bottom.

    • @davidgallegos2475
      @davidgallegos2475 5 лет назад

      And Spinal Tap did as well

  • @segatortoise5455
    @segatortoise5455 7 лет назад +42

    Peter green and pete townshend used 12s!!

    • @trollfiddler
      @trollfiddler 7 лет назад +5

      Danish Pete is Pete too. So Pete and Jim make up all the good guitarists then :)

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist 7 лет назад +11

      Pete Townshend uses a thinner G-string to help fingering A minor ^^

    • @shaneuszakiewicz5489
      @shaneuszakiewicz5489 7 лет назад

      CyberChrist 🤣

  •  7 лет назад +10

    I clicked the video so fast, I thought I'm gonna see an 8 string vs 12 string video.

  • @Tenetchurch
    @Tenetchurch 6 лет назад +4

    I just recently switched from being a die hard heavy gauge string user to using 8's and even 7's and i think its the best thing I could've done for my playing and my sound hasn't changed at all

  • @RhythmGrizz
    @RhythmGrizz 7 лет назад +1

    Makes me happy to see lee still playing his awesome modded squier classic vibe

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn 7 лет назад

    I totally agree with the verdict..... whatever that was! ;) Great vid guys :)

  • @lukesaunders4776
    @lukesaunders4776 7 лет назад +3

    I used 13's in standard tuning on an RG for years, now I use a 9-46 hybrid set in all fourths. Both gave me very very different sounds and feel, neither were bad though :)

    • @dmnddst
      @dmnddst 2 года назад

      i also use the 9-46 hybrid slinky by ernie ball, but ngl the 8-38 extra slinky does sound intriguing lol

  • @Damage_Kase_99
    @Damage_Kase_99 5 лет назад +7

    Malcolm Young used 12-56 (sometimes 58) and Angus used 9-42. Put those together and you get the most perfect Rhythm and Lead guitar tones ever

  • @shandralynne
    @shandralynne 6 лет назад +19

    SRV is indeed “mind-blowingly amazing.” How dare you! 😂

  • @shayneswenson
    @shayneswenson 5 лет назад +1

    Like someone below said, Rob is awesome and NOT pretentious or condescending in any way. The internet sucks sometimes. Much ❤️ from 🇺🇸

  • @kyemerrick
    @kyemerrick 5 лет назад +1

    The string gauge used really comes down to context. Playing an SG through a Garnet won't yield the same results as a strat played through a fender amp. Furthermore, what is the artist after? Context!

  • @Grim177
    @Grim177 7 лет назад +4

    I played 010's for the first 20 years or so, then 009's with the occasional set of 008's for a few years. I've played 007's for 3 years or so now and I have no intention of going back.

  • @marcushogan6613
    @marcushogan6613 7 лет назад +182

    David GIlmour is one of the most distinctive guitar players of them all. He only has to bend one note and you know who it is. He uses 10s

    • @ziphrox
      @ziphrox 7 лет назад +12

      Marcus Hogan He just has like the Midas Touch of the guitar world.
      He can bend any note and you just hear that unique Gilmour tone.
      Just, amazing. For sure one of my biggest influences.

    • @hugokraft2815
      @hugokraft2815 7 лет назад

      Marcus Hogan In another Andertons video I think they said he used 9s.

    • @marcushogan6613
      @marcushogan6613 7 лет назад +7

      He definitely uses 10s. It's a custom gauge set though 10-48. Just google David Gilmour GHS boomers

    • @kostasv6980
      @kostasv6980 7 лет назад

      He has his own set it's 10.5-48 I think

    • @joelpickett812
      @joelpickett812 7 лет назад +6

      Marcus Hogan 10-48 on strat and 10.5 to 50 on les Paul. Yeah custom gauges for middles

  • @ResoBridge
    @ResoBridge 7 лет назад +4

    At least up until 1969 Fender guitars shipped with 12s. Not that long before all you could buy was "Electric guitar strings" with no mention of gauge on the packet. All the iconic electric guitar designs of the 1950s were developed with heavy gauge pure nickel round wound strings, or heavy flat wounds (and wound thirds).

    • @leocomerford
      @leocomerford 6 лет назад +1

      It seems that many professional guitarists were using a banjo top string to build a lighter string set long before the Ernie Ball Slinkys became commercially available, though.

    • @waynebrown1394
      @waynebrown1394 5 лет назад

      Thank Terry thats why we argue and take in fun and I learned something never thought about what kind of strings they played in the 40s and 50s

  • @brianarguello7576
    @brianarguello7576 6 лет назад +2

    There is also something to be said about the practicality of string gauge. Playing with 12s for instance have great snap back, which is really helpful when playing that Texas shuffle SRV loved so much!

  • @whitaker_media
    @whitaker_media 7 лет назад

    Bottom line for me is that I want my high string to bend like butter without breaking and I don't want my l low string to chime in at E# and decay to Eb. So I'm somewhere in the 9-46/10-52 range @ 25.5", still trying to decide on where to commit.

  • @humbucker0076
    @humbucker0076 7 лет назад +132

    Heavy Strings? Malcolm Young. I think he used strings that were so heavy, that even the g string was wound.
    And of course Chuck Norris puts the Cables of the Golden Gate Bridge on his guitar

    • @ericburns1887
      @ericburns1887 7 лет назад +8

      Haha Malcolm used 13's

    • @luckyllou7325
      @luckyllou7325 7 лет назад +5

      Eric Burns ...but he can't remember ...

    • @humbucker0076
      @humbucker0076 7 лет назад +2

      I'm not sure on which point in the past his memory loss starts, but it's probably late enough to be in the really early AC/DC time and I think he kind of already had the heavy rhythm/string stuff already down before he did this band...so he may still remember this

    • @thegayagenda2611
      @thegayagenda2611 7 лет назад +6

      Chuck Norris memes died when he hated on the gays.
      And when it stopped being funny.

    • @ykitskanyenorth847
      @ykitskanyenorth847 7 лет назад +4

      chuck norris has metal rods on his guitar.

  • @Willixlonger
    @Willixlonger 6 лет назад +4

    I've been using 11's for four month and I quite like them, I felt I had more clarity and brightness than with 10's but I can be wrong. I guess my next ones will be 9's to compare the extremes and make a decision

  • @MusicalPhoenix
    @MusicalPhoenix 7 лет назад +161

    Shoulda done 7s vs 13s haha 13s would be scary to tune up

    • @Zilegil
      @Zilegil 7 лет назад +8

      MusicalPhoenix I feel like Lee would have struggled with 13s

    • @sam_uelson
      @sam_uelson 7 лет назад +20

      RIP the truss rod on that squier then

    • @danoeb-g418
      @danoeb-g418 7 лет назад +4

      Zachary Williams I know that a lot of jazz guitarists use flatwound 13's in standard.

    • @jayjackson9014
      @jayjackson9014 7 лет назад +3

      Danoe B-G Jazz guys don't bend strings. It's all about bending otherwise gauge doesn't really matter. It's the bending.

    • @MusicalPhoenix
      @MusicalPhoenix 7 лет назад

      I haven't seen it done before, but it could be done definitely. Gotta have balls of steel to do that though, but the .7 string set could be cool.

  • @destroso
    @destroso 3 года назад +2

    11:40 the look of envy on Lee’s face as he still reels from the pain in his fingers

  • @barryarcher6158
    @barryarcher6158 5 лет назад

    I use a hybrid set 8, 10, 14 24, 32,42 I had a stroke advanced arthritis (left thumb joint all but gone...so my left hand is very weak.. but I get no loss of tone what ever amp I use. But then I am a very light player ...great video chaps

  • @vladjames2000
    @vladjames2000 7 лет назад +12

    Umm, I guess to me the gauge is a comfort thing the more comfortable you are playing then better you would sound.

  • @GHguy17
    @GHguy17 7 лет назад +52

    You guys need to stop bitching about Rob not liking SRV's tone. It's called an opinion, guys. Geez.

    • @waynebrown1394
      @waynebrown1394 5 лет назад

      Yes it is but me busting his balls about saying Billiy from ZZ-top has better tone is my opinion. Does not mean I don't still have respect for rob. If I was out having some beers with Rob and he said that I would say the same thing but I would still say nice meeting you be safe going home. I hope that you understand

  • @garyjovanovitch3863
    @garyjovanovitch3863 7 лет назад +8

    But didn't SRV tune down, therefore compensating the tension?

    • @revsharp777
      @revsharp777 7 лет назад +7

      Gary Jovanovitch 13s in Eb

    • @Calsta84
      @Calsta84 6 лет назад +4

      SRV also had a massive action. Like a bus could be parked under the gap between the frets and the strings on his guitar.

    • @dixon9
      @dixon9 6 лет назад +2

      Roughly the equivalent of going 1 gauge down...

    • @wildchild01ok
      @wildchild01ok 5 лет назад +1

      In his youth days, Stevie used 0,15 and 0,16 in standard tuning. Eventually he decided to use 0,13. I think he tuned a half step down cause for not get tired singing, but If wasn't for that all guitar players would being puting 0,13 in E standard on a vintage strat. I use 0,12 in a strat in E standard, and the sound is fantastic!

  • @djjazzyjeff1232
    @djjazzyjeff1232 6 лет назад +1

    I value tuning stablility a lot so I go with 10-52s, light top heavy bottom NYXLs from D'Addario. Light enough to bend and all that on the bottom 3 strings and then a bit heaver on the top 3 for them not to do a flop-job when you're riffing heavy.

  • @CarmineLombardi-e9f
    @CarmineLombardi-e9f 6 дней назад

    I play both the 8's and 7's. The trick is to adjust your picking and strumming to be lighter and more subtle attack so as to not have the strings over vibrate and wobble, it takes getting used to, but the payoff is easier bends, pull-offs and no pain on the fingertips at all. That's why Billy Gibbon's from ZZ Top loves them.

  • @timhet200
    @timhet200 4 года назад +32

    Anyone watching this after Beato?

  • @wormcultist6637
    @wormcultist6637 4 года назад +3

    From that moment on,
    little Jimmy knew he was chosen.

  • @trollfiddler
    @trollfiddler 7 лет назад +8

    Captain, string tension and height above pickups will affect the sound. The thing that people say doesn't affect the sound is wood. Stop twisting the argument :D

    • @leocomerford
      @leocomerford 6 лет назад

      The nut can obviously affect the tone as well, so you'd have to control for that too. Beyond that, no-one denies that the *neck* can influence the sound somewhat, though that also includes the fret material and levelling. About the only thing that almost certainly does not influence the sound at all is the body of a solid-body guitar: beyond a certain point the body is apparently just too big and rigid for the wood to make an audible difference over the pickup. But you certainly shouldn't take my word for it. Manfred Zollner, who is a real live doctor of physics, will tell you as much: gitec-forum.de/wp/en/gitec-community/the-book/content-physic-of-the-electric-guitar-with-links-to-the-chapters-pdf/

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 6 лет назад +1

      Mark Seymour the reason "tonewood" is bullshit is ONLY because you have a sample size of 1 so it's easy to find a particular piece of wood that doesn't fit in the normal characteristics it's supposed to have.

    • @ollimoore
      @ollimoore 6 лет назад +1

      Cas van der Wal
      I know this is an old comment, but just wanted to say that's the most sense I've seen on this topic in a long time.
      The tone wood denying types often get caught up by comparing prices of USA/western made premium instruments with far eastern ones and assuming the price difference is the wood, not country of origin or the care taken in construction. A USA PRS is a pretty darn finely made instrument after all (although not really my style, before anyone screams "fanboy!!...")
      and also, as you touch upon as well, that wood is often chosen for looks. A Burl maple top for example, it costs more because it looks fancy (and it costs more from the wood merchant btw guys....guitar manufacturers don't necessarily set the prices for this stuff) it's not going to sound better than a plain, boring looking maple top (if anything it might even be worse although I'd be surprised if you could hear that unless maybe LP thickness top) and I've never heard anybody suggest that a burl maple top would sound better than a plain one either

  • @gabrielgodwi3352
    @gabrielgodwi3352 7 лет назад

    You guys are both the greatest guitar players around and love your videos so much I must visit andertons some timeeee greetings from CALIFORNIA

  • @phantomechelon3628
    @phantomechelon3628 5 лет назад +2

    Just generalising here, but I thought the main reason for deciding on a particular string gauge was both dependent on feel / style of playing and the music.
    As was pointed out, thinner strings are obviously easier on the fingers and also allow easier bending...good for blues / country / jazz players. The downside being they stretch & go out of tune easier.
    Whereas rock / metal players tend to go for heavier strings to compensate for playing in lower tunings and use guitars with trem systems if they want any bendy action.
    There obviously are exceptions to this.

  • @morodochable
    @morodochable 7 лет назад +16

    I skim read the title and thought this would be another of those "who is less comfortable" videos with Lee on an 8 string and Rob on a 12 string...

  • @DanSZiegler
    @DanSZiegler 7 лет назад +13

    Seems to me that there is more tone "definition" with the 8's . Not sure if that is the correct term, but seems like you can hear more individual notes and overtones with the 8's.
    I switched quite a few of my guitars over to Cobalt 8's a couple months ago and am loving them.

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 5 лет назад +2

      You're high.

    • @phillipangeron9623
      @phillipangeron9623 4 года назад

      Cobalt 10 when I pot them on a Jackson Soloist seymore Dunkin pick up it sounded uh. Yea. I am glad to here about the eights my sixty year old fingers and hands r not as strong as they were ...eights Cobalt yes

    • @phillipangeron9623
      @phillipangeron9623 4 года назад

      Cobalts sound rounder in tone off string . therefore is each string is rounder.the could big time whoose .

  • @martinskanal
    @martinskanal 6 лет назад +3

    completely agree with Rob´s sentiments on SRV

  • @NickolaiDuddits
    @NickolaiDuddits 7 лет назад

    Tone and feel are in the ears and hands of the beholder. I'm a fan of lighter strings and thinner picks as I feel those things increase the dynamics of my playing, but I could also be a complete tool. Cheers!

  • @Bruce-1956
    @Bruce-1956 6 лет назад

    3:09 agree 100%, Lee. That is the sign of a great musician.

  • @Floortile83
    @Floortile83 7 лет назад +8

    SRV tuned 1/2 step down, making the strings not as tight or hard to play.

  • @Josbornevonosborne
    @Josbornevonosborne 7 лет назад +297

    Stevie Ray Vaughan is King of tone

    • @benasanceris4299
      @benasanceris4299 7 лет назад +19

      John Osborne Yep, and that's not an opinion. It's a FACT.

    • @TheShinyShow
      @TheShinyShow 7 лет назад +11

      No it's very much an opinion, one which you happen to agree with. I'm personally not a fan of his tone.

    • @benasanceris4299
      @benasanceris4299 7 лет назад +3

      ScottishCunt And that's what I said. You may not like his tone, but it is really good. Just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong and your opinion is the best.

    • @dannethcharles3904
      @dannethcharles3904 7 лет назад +8

      John Osborne My man, Eric Johnson is the tone Lord.... still love SRV tho

    • @TheShinyShow
      @TheShinyShow 7 лет назад +1

      Apologies, it was supposed to be a reply to as pedlas who said "Yep, and that's not an opinion. It's a FACT."

  • @JJ-bb3jv
    @JJ-bb3jv 7 лет назад +3

    I really Phil Collen of Def Leppard uses 12s or 13s on almost all of his guitars. Collen's tone today is one of the best tones I have ever heard.

  • @1337Hose1337
    @1337Hose1337 7 лет назад +1

    I didn't know thath the greats used such light gauge, but subcounciously I felt I was doing the right thing. I play 8-11-14-26-36-50 in D standard, use 2mm pick and have never felt more comfortable playing the guitar.

  • @thebluesprosecutor875
    @thebluesprosecutor875 6 лет назад

    I like heavier gauges, especially thick bottom strings, mainly because they allow for more tone stability when hitting the strings hard. I tried the GHS Eric Johnson Nickel Rockers (R+EJM: 11/14/19/28/40/52), but both packs I received came with corrosion on the strings, and the ones I put on sounded very dull and lifeless. I replaced them with D'Addario XL Pro Steels Light Top/Heavy BTMs (10/13/17/30/42/52) and I'm very happy with those.

  • @somebodyelseuk
    @somebodyelseuk 7 лет назад +6

    String gauges? The different tensions make you play differently, hence you sound different. You sound best on what you are most comfortable on. You set the amp to sound best, regardless of the strings on the guitar... People really over estimate the guitar side of all this.

    • @coppulor6500
      @coppulor6500 6 лет назад

      could not agree more. I think the amp is more important than the guitar. Not that it doesnt matter, just that a great amp will make an okay guitar sound great but not the other way around. Pete Thorn said something along the line of guitar, amp, speaker and cab all have a huge impact not just the guitar and then I think he said arguably the speaker and cab are most important. or could be the amp and speaker lol dont remember izzackly but the point is it wasnt the guitar.

  • @Atomic_Johnny
    @Atomic_Johnny 4 года назад +4

    Did anyone else smile when Lee said "have fun" and hands Chappers the Strat with 12 gauge who then proceeds to shred like it's nothing? What a great player.

  • @adambayer6207
    @adambayer6207 7 лет назад +116

    Hmm you can't really have a "better tone" because
    its subjective dun dun duuuuuunnnnnn

    • @profd65
      @profd65 6 лет назад +2

      STFU

    • @bufonoise
      @bufonoise 5 лет назад

      Dun dun? Simple? You are not guitarrist

    • @jadenlothes
      @jadenlothes 5 лет назад +2

      @Ewan Mcconnell that's still subjective though, I really like a lot of dirtier older sounds and whatnot, one of my favorite guitarists uses a squire strat, one of the lowest tier guitars from a reliable brand, and his tone is delicious

    • @raym.778
      @raym.778 5 лет назад

      You're 100% right.

    • @kaanemirel
      @kaanemirel 4 года назад

      Adam Bayer because there are things called mixing and mastering dun dun duuuuuuuunn 😂😙
      They are rarely played solo and actually as we try to pick our fav guitar, we tend to play along to see it on somehow mix :)

  • @slprhooptie
    @slprhooptie 2 года назад +1

    Loved 13-56s for many years

  • @SpectrumAudiophile
    @SpectrumAudiophile 7 лет назад

    I was playing 12-60s in E flat and Drop C# last year. Since then, I've moved to 11-52 for those tunings. And just straight up 10s for standard and Drop D. Just trying everything out

  • @peetairsh
    @peetairsh 7 лет назад +6

    IMHO Its all about feel. Whichever string is that you're most comfortable playing with is the right one for you, resulting the best tone. Too thin and you become sloppy, too thick and it becomes too hard to express yourself. Yes thinner string sound thinner but that is what you can compensate with pedals, EQ, etc., but you cannot compensate your playing.

    • @mcd5778
      @mcd5778 3 года назад

      This is the way!

  • @saleemisgod
    @saleemisgod 4 года назад +4

    So in conclusion, those 8's sounded great.

  • @iamrichlol
    @iamrichlol 7 лет назад +4

    I thought this was going to be an 8 string vs 12 string guitar battle video. Please do that

  • @wayneknazek7362
    @wayneknazek7362 4 года назад

    OK, I'm 71 and still gigging. Lots of Blues, and I play a lot of Latin Rock, and LOVE old SURF tunes! A few months back I made the change to Eb tuning. One of my best buds (same age) made the change about a year ago. We put a band together, and I decided I would be the one to change what we were doing, and I tuned my main Srat to Eb tuning, new strings, and did a full new set up. And made a discovery: Strats sound GREAT tuned down a half! OK, so after a lot of thought, I made the change today to 08's. 0838. On my Strat, tuned to Eb, with 08's, and I LOVE the sound! More articulate string to string. Using my standard SURF rig, I love it! Turned off the lights in my studio, turned on my neon and mood/effects lights, and played some Pink Floyd for a while. I absolutely love this combo! Fender USA Strat, EB Super Slinky 0838's, tuned to Eb! No tone issues at all!

  • @billyfubar2748
    @billyfubar2748 3 года назад

    I was wondering if I can put half a set of 12s and half a set of 10s on my schecter...
    I just slapped some 12s on in a whim because I happen to have a pack for some reason and I love to riff out on shit like bullet for my valentine, black label, smashing pumpkins type riffs...pinch harmonics are so thick.
    But, I also love to pentatonically "shred" speed picking with side of that David Gilmore... Which we know includes lots of bends.
    When I start to try and shred on these 12 to 56 by Ernie ball, once I hit the G string I'm like holy fuck... it's like my fingers are in the gym power lifting.
    My rhythm section sounds like beef hell but it's damn hard to go Shreddy krueger them

  • @spartacus2296
    @spartacus2296 7 лет назад +23

    Rick Parfitt used 14s.

    • @paulwells6131
      @paulwells6131 6 лет назад

      Brandon Gee he called them Tramlines!

    • @skippityblippity8656
      @skippityblippity8656 6 лет назад

      Crazy dude

    • @royalcat10
      @royalcat10 6 лет назад +1

      Was that in standard? 14s tuned to standard is roughly 210 lbs of tension. That would probably decimate the neck pretty quick. (For comparison 10s are about 100 lbs, 13s are about 180 lbs.)

  • @ciarancooling3014
    @ciarancooling3014 6 лет назад +11

    Tony Iommi used banjo strings originally as guitar strings were too tough on his fingers, I never hear complaints on Tony’s tone, string thickness affecting tone in a greatly measurable way is a myth, choose your thickness due to comfort and preference

  • @fredrickhitchcock7475
    @fredrickhitchcock7475 7 лет назад +61

    Is it just me or is Rob starting to look a little like Clapton?

  • @stevealdridge6827
    @stevealdridge6827 4 года назад +2

    B. B. King did not use 8's. I read an interview in a guitar mag a while back with B.B. He asked to play Billy Gibbons guitar and told BG, "Why are you working so hard." BG switched to 7's and 8's, so some people thought BB told BG to use 8's. But BB said he used 10-52. The point was that BG was using much heavier gauges than 10-52 at that time.

    • @cmiddleton9872
      @cmiddleton9872 4 года назад

      Also Jimi didnt use 8's. He used a custom set of 10s with a light gauge g string because the g string has a thicker core and overpowered the other strings because magnets.

  • @stueycaster
    @stueycaster 2 года назад

    When I used to use 9's I couldn't keep my guitar in tune at all. Then I switched to 10's and now my guitar stays in tune almost perfectly. And I gotta say Damn you're a mean guitar player Rob.

  • @mboersma07
    @mboersma07 7 лет назад +19

    I believe Slash uses 11's

    • @jamesmulligan7413
      @jamesmulligan7413 5 лет назад

      I think he has 11 for down tunes

    • @eddieht8996
      @eddieht8996 5 лет назад

      He uses ernie ball 11-14-18p-26-36-46 D# standard
      Believe it or not!

    • @artwizardsam3238
      @artwizardsam3238 5 лет назад

      He uses both 9s and 11s.

    • @DatMetalBoi75
      @DatMetalBoi75 5 лет назад

      @@artwizardsam3238 I cant see slash using 9s. I've seen how hard the man plays in person (saw GnR on the not in this lifetime tour).

  • @fluroflash2803
    @fluroflash2803 7 лет назад +69

    My name is Jimi. I can confirm, it does not help. Or maybe it does and I'm just really bad to start with...

    • @1961jscofield
      @1961jscofield 7 лет назад +2

      I'm also a Jimi even have the H in my middle name, but I'll never be confused with the Jims of yore!

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom 6 лет назад

      Aren't you the guy requesting Rory Gallagher tunes on GOTD?

    • @Q-go
      @Q-go 6 лет назад

      Fluro Flash you’ll get there soon

    • @droptuned83
      @droptuned83 6 лет назад

      Well my name isn't Jimmi , and I am really bad with awful tone.?

  • @LGSlowhandClapton
    @LGSlowhandClapton 7 лет назад +20

    You cant hear any difference when Chappers plays. You only hear gain

  • @fireglo450music
    @fireglo450music 4 года назад

    Pete Townshend's strings during the height of The Who's touring years were 12, 16, 16, 32, 44, 56.
    I did the same to my SG Special by using a set of Not Even Slinky's plus an extra B and it feels remarkably good. Easy to bend the G and B and nice and heavy on the low strings. Combine with a Univox Super fuzz for 1970 heaven.
    Incidentally, he said he started doing this because he hated the sound of ultralight strings and wanted to have to work to play his guitar.

  • @rjmcmooseknuckle
    @rjmcmooseknuckle 7 лет назад

    Gratz on 300K Captn!!!