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He basically tells it in a creepypasta voice lol. But his script is really good, so I forgive him. I also really like his Lord of the Rings and Star Trek series.
Good job we appreciate all your hard work drawing everything out you are very talented and deserve more views and subscribers may the force be with you 🙏🏿
It's sad that they were dedicated to balance in the Force, yet it took thousands of years for the Chosen One to find it again after they disregarded it.
Personally my headcanon for the weapon master mentioned in the consular storyline for swtor is actually Xesh. Xesh truly committing to the Je’daii he sought to find a substitute that could replace by forcesabers and better make force imbued blades. He found out a technique of meditating on a crystal and imbedding into the hilt of a force imbued blade and was able to block and compete with a force saber. But Xesh never gave up on the idea of a better made forcesaber. And this created the ‘first blade’ lightsaber but never got to complete it and was left behind in his grave when he died in the force wars and his legacy was reduced to the ‘weapon master’ by the droids that wandered kaleth on tython
This is proof positive that the prophecy wasn't about a Jedi destroying the Sith, like the council seemed to believe. Neither was it about a Sith destroying the Jedi. It was literally about bringing balance between the two. Seems this goal was accomplished. When A New Hope starts, there are only two Sith and two Jedi. Ashoka is gray, so she isn't part of the equation. You could also interpret that Anakin, indeed, destroyed both orders.
@@sandllc1361 dont combine the woke disney crap by Dave Phony and his master darth Kathleen, with the masterpiece that is real star wars (anything before disney). And yes, Dave has proven he only cares about himself and the characters he created, not the fans, not the lore (purposely contradicting the lore, giving lukes heir to the empire arch to his rule 34 spawn asshoka, which he made for overgrown horny boys like himself), not even his peers (ask his "friend" John Fratbro)
No, it's actually correct in this video. For example, Lok was sent to Bogan after he fell to the Dark Side. The reason they were sent to the moon corresponding with their fall is so that they could look upon the other moon and meditate on it. So Dark Je'daii were sent to Bogan to watch Ashla and meditate on the Light Side, while those who embraced the Light Side were sent to Ashla to look at Bogan and meditate on the Dark Side. Honestly, though, the whole Je'daii thing was stupid and completely antithetical to what the Force is supposed to be, and is a great example of why decanonizing Legends was the right move. The "Dark Side is a corruption of the Force and 'balance' means completely stamping it out" angle is _what George Lucas wanted._ It was _how_ he designed the Force to operate. All of this "use both sides equally" bullshit is absolute crap.
There used to ne novels about the Je'daii as well. I just assumed that's where you got it from. However, I don't really know what was in those books. For some reason I've never finished a Star Wars novel.
alright the je'daii at some points in time should've known they made the wrong decisions and im not saying they were the perfect force organization but i'd say that their philosophy of achieving balance with both the dark and light sides were correct
I would say not. If you know anything about Taoism, which is not so dissimilar from the Force-centered belief, good and evil are human, or being, perceptions. The force is just what it is: it is then filtered through ones intentions, but the force itself is also a living being and may react better or poorer to certain people.
@@TheAlmightyAss because it allowed the average je'daii to be much more powerful then your average sith lord or average jedi knight and allowed access to both abilities of the dark and light side In a complete war the sith or jedi of the old republic will win against the old je'daii but if you put up the average je'daii against an average sith or jedi then the je'daii would win probably
While this concept is nice, the problem most people do not understand is that there is no such thing as balance in the Force. Balance means that the Dark Side is entirely eradicated, because there is no such thing as the Light Side of the Force. There is only the Force and the Dark Side of the Force. For balance, only the Force must exist, and thus the Dark Side must be destroyed. So Anakin destroyed the Sith in Episode VI to restore balance to the Force by eradicating the Sith, which are the most powerful Dark Siders.
Anyhow GREAT video! Finally, the origins of the Origins. (if there is any previous story :O let me know living library) Thank you for your service, Sir.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
My personal head canon for a swtor tie-in is xesh help pave the way for Force imbued swords with crystals placed somewhere in the hilt of the sword itself and thus giving them a true means to go toe to toe with a force saber. But this revelation only caused more internal strife in the order as Daegan Lok and Rajivari both refused to put down the forcesabers. With an already completely divided order the new Jedi order was founded with the belief of the lightside and usage of force imbued swords with crystals. But xesh never gave up on the forcesaber even making a working prototype of the first blade (the first ever modern functioning lightsaber that did not require the dark side or a power pack) Rajivari for a time was apart of the founding council but he struck at them when he felt their ideas were not in line with his and fled to kaleth with his students and Daegan as they made a last stand against the Jedi but failed and fell back to the forge where he held out and let the rest of those who still followed the dark side duke it out with what also remained of the flesh raiders. This throwing Tyrion completely out of balance and devastating the planet the newly christened Jedi order boarded sleeper ships along a vast majority of the populace of the tython system and headed into the unknown…
When the creature Bendu calls himself "Bendu" is he suggesting he is an entity of pure balanced force? Like the personification of Bendu as a concept. Or is he just saying he's a regular force sensitive creature who simply chooses to remain balanced, and not sway to either side?
I've had people argue with me to say that the light side of the force is balance. (This usually comes when I point out that Anakin achieved balance by reducing the number of force users to two jedi and two sith). The story of the Je'daii kind of proves my point. Anybody know if the prophecy dates back to this era? It would explain why the jedi and sith both have slightly biased versions of the same prophecy, if it was inherited from the Je'daii.
Yo You know this is the Expanded Universe right ? Anakin didn't make the number of Force users balanced at all Many Jedi besides Obi-Wan and Yoda survived Order 66 and the Empire employed many Dark Jedi as Inquisitors
@@caiosilva2167 I think that the balance comes from his son who learns from his journey to defeat the empire to encourage his students to learn from both sides and later learns the full worth of the sith through his fight against abeloth
Plz anyone who is super knowledgeable with Star Wars plz could u let me know what order books I should read in? I’ve googled it and there’s so many different ways and everyone says different things is there a once and for all way through? Im a bit autistic so it’s a bit stressful trying to know
wait wtf, how those who strive in the the dark side are send to BOGAN TO MEDITATE ON THE LIGHT SIDE, and those who strive in the Light are send TO ASHLA TO MEDITATE ON THE DARK SIDE?
From Bogan they could see Ashla in the sky, which was supposed to inspire them to meditate on the light side. From Ashla they could see Bogan in the sky.
I disagree with a lot of people who believe the Je'daii Order was correct in their way of "balance of the force". They only did so because their environment demanded it. Balance of the force is not achieved by equal parts light to dark.
Star Wars is dead bro, just move on, no one cares about the real story because it’s all garbage, please explain a rock bro, navigator with no arms!!!! On the vessel so legendary that it’s only known as “ the vessel” none of this matters since they will change it all to fit there left narrative
@@enforcerridley158 And Star Wars comes from the "actual" event that took place in Orion, which we know as the Orion Wars. Also, Star Trek is the depiction they give humans in movies, that represents the presence of the Federation of United Planets, who are being permissive with the vaccination program of the satanic cabal and wish to transform humanity into a cyborg race, thru the vaccines and the New World Order. There's a lot of Starseeds who care about these plans not coming into fruitition. The people of the matrix, zombies, are too busy being distracted and watching the television so they are the only ones who do not care. They just follow orders.
There was race of living rocks named shard in legends too and also many strange species were in old continuity like blue crying mountain on Endor or alien race that is basicly a living gas
To be fair at least the shards had robot suites to explain how they did things. Disney just took what should’ve been a sight gag background character and but then center stage with no irony
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So, what's the plan for next week?
It’s Je’daii or Je Daii.
@@jedipadwan20 I spell it Je'daii.
@@keatonburton5636 yeah but they’re saying Jedi the first Jedi came after Je’Daii or Je Daii
@@jedipadwan20 I know that.
Star Wars Legends, an elegant storyline from a more civilized age.
Indeed the expanded universe will always be the true canon to me. Long live the EU
@@aamirrazak3467 Long Live the EU!
Before the Dark Times, before Disney
Never knew this star wars lore was this good until I came across your channel. You tell it in a very engaging way, thank you.
He basically tells it in a creepypasta voice lol.
But his script is really good, so I forgive him.
I also really like his Lord of the Rings and Star Trek series.
Good job we appreciate all your hard work drawing everything out you are very talented and deserve more views and subscribers may the force be with you 🙏🏿
The early je’daii sound much better than the Jedi. The recognized that balance was important instead becoming useless balls of repressed emotions
Grey Jedi still follow the original way.
@@nuterra9143 oh hell yeah, I love me some grey jedi. Jolee is the best
Grey Jedi are just weird centrists.
Agreed their approach made sense and imo was healthier than the Jedi principle of ignoring or suppress emotion
Much like religion itself.
It's sad that they were dedicated to balance in the Force, yet it took thousands of years for the Chosen One to find it again after they disregarded it.
Personally my headcanon for the weapon master mentioned in the consular storyline for swtor is actually Xesh. Xesh truly committing to the Je’daii he sought to find a substitute that could replace by forcesabers and better make force imbued blades.
He found out a technique of meditating on a crystal and imbedding into the hilt of a force imbued blade and was able to block and compete with a force saber.
But Xesh never gave up on the idea of a better made forcesaber. And this created the ‘first blade’ lightsaber but never got to complete it and was left behind in his grave when he died in the force wars and his legacy was reduced to the ‘weapon master’ by the droids that wandered kaleth on tython
Dark siders were sent to ashla to meditate to bring balance and lightsiders were sent to bogan to bring balance
This is proof positive that the prophecy wasn't about a Jedi destroying the Sith, like the council seemed to believe. Neither was it about a Sith destroying the Jedi. It was literally about bringing balance between the two.
Seems this goal was accomplished. When A New Hope starts, there are only two Sith and two Jedi. Ashoka is gray, so she isn't part of the equation. You could also interpret that Anakin, indeed, destroyed both orders.
@@Mephilis78 especially since both the Galactic Republic and the Galactic Empire used the symbol Bendu which stands for the unification of the force
@@sandllc1361 dont combine the woke disney crap by Dave Phony and his master darth Kathleen, with the masterpiece that is real star wars (anything before disney). And yes, Dave has proven he only cares about himself and the characters he created, not the fans, not the lore (purposely contradicting the lore, giving lukes heir to the empire arch to his rule 34 spawn asshoka, which he made for overgrown horny boys like himself), not even his peers (ask his "friend" John Fratbro)
No, it's actually correct in this video. For example, Lok was sent to Bogan after he fell to the Dark Side. The reason they were sent to the moon corresponding with their fall is so that they could look upon the other moon and meditate on it. So Dark Je'daii were sent to Bogan to watch Ashla and meditate on the Light Side, while those who embraced the Light Side were sent to Ashla to look at Bogan and meditate on the Dark Side.
Honestly, though, the whole Je'daii thing was stupid and completely antithetical to what the Force is supposed to be, and is a great example of why decanonizing Legends was the right move. The "Dark Side is a corruption of the Force and 'balance' means completely stamping it out" angle is _what George Lucas wanted._ It was _how_ he designed the Force to operate. All of this "use both sides equally" bullshit is absolute crap.
Most of the info in this series comes from the 3 part Dawn of the Jedi comics.
Never heard of it.
There used to ne novels about the Je'daii as well. I just assumed that's where you got it from.
However, I don't really know what was in those books. For some reason I've never finished a Star Wars novel.
@@Mephilis78 I read the Revan novel.
alright the je'daii at some points in time should've known they made the wrong decisions and im not saying they were the perfect force organization but i'd say that their philosophy of achieving balance with both the dark and light sides were correct
Why?
I would say not.
If you know anything about Taoism, which is not so dissimilar from the Force-centered belief, good and evil are human, or being, perceptions. The force is just what it is: it is then filtered through ones intentions, but the force itself is also a living being and may react better or poorer to certain people.
@@TheAlmightyAss because it allowed the average je'daii to be much more powerful then your average sith lord or average jedi knight and allowed access to both abilities of the dark and light side
In a complete war the sith or jedi of the old republic will win against the old je'daii but if you put up the average je'daii against an average sith or jedi then the je'daii would win probably
Thanks for posting the complete video this lore is awesome! The je’daii rock!
While this concept is nice, the problem most people do not understand is that there is no such thing as balance in the Force. Balance means that the Dark Side is entirely eradicated, because there is no such thing as the Light Side of the Force. There is only the Force and the Dark Side of the Force. For balance, only the Force must exist, and thus the Dark Side must be destroyed. So Anakin destroyed the Sith in Episode VI to restore balance to the Force by eradicating the Sith, which are the most powerful Dark Siders.
@@mikeor- Wrong. That's just the narrow minded view, used by the jedi to to portray themselves as morally superior.
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Anyhow GREAT video! Finally, the origins of the Origins.
(if there is any previous story :O let me know living library)
Thank you for your service, Sir.
Whoever wrote Daegen's story is definitely a massive fan of A Song of Ice and Fire.
CivEx!!!
Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
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My personal head canon for a swtor tie-in is xesh help pave the way for Force imbued swords with crystals placed somewhere in the hilt of the sword itself and thus giving them a true means to go toe to toe with a force saber. But this revelation only caused more internal strife in the order as Daegan Lok and Rajivari both refused to put down the forcesabers. With an already completely divided order the new Jedi order was founded with the belief of the lightside and usage of force imbued swords with crystals. But xesh never gave up on the forcesaber even making a working prototype of the first blade (the first ever modern functioning lightsaber that did not require the dark side or a power pack)
Rajivari for a time was apart of the founding council but he struck at them when he felt their ideas were not in line with his and fled to kaleth with his students and Daegan as they made a last stand against the Jedi but failed and fell back to the forge where he held out and let the rest of those who still followed the dark side duke it out with what also remained of the flesh raiders. This throwing Tyrion completely out of balance and devastating the planet the newly christened Jedi order boarded sleeper ships along a vast majority of the populace of the tython system and headed into the unknown…
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When the creature Bendu calls himself "Bendu" is he suggesting he is an entity of pure balanced force? Like the personification of Bendu as a concept. Or is he just saying he's a regular force sensitive creature who simply chooses to remain balanced, and not sway to either side?
I've had people argue with me to say that the light side of the force is balance. (This usually comes when I point out that Anakin achieved balance by reducing the number of force users to two jedi and two sith).
The story of the Je'daii kind of proves my point. Anybody know if the prophecy dates back to this era? It would explain why the jedi and sith both have slightly biased versions of the same prophecy, if it was inherited from the Je'daii.
Yo
You know this is the Expanded Universe right ?
Anakin didn't make the number of Force users balanced at all
Many Jedi besides Obi-Wan and Yoda survived Order 66 and the Empire employed many Dark Jedi as Inquisitors
@@caiosilva2167 I think that the balance comes from his son who learns from his journey to defeat the empire to encourage his students to learn from both sides and later learns the full worth of the sith through his fight against abeloth
and then killed the last two sith, leaving only a jedi, his son Luke
I’ve read these comics they were pretty good
Plz anyone who is super knowledgeable with Star Wars plz could u let me know what order books I should read in? I’ve googled it and there’s so many different ways and everyone says different things is there a once and for all way through? Im a bit autistic so it’s a bit stressful trying to know
A month late but civvvvexxxx!
Is there’s going to be a Tales of the Jedi vol 2 anyone know?
I love this channel
xesh is such a cool character
*'Hello There!"*
You should make a history about lightsabers
Did the Je'daii have to fight fleshraiders too?
Yes
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what?
wait wtf, how those who strive in the the dark side are send to BOGAN TO MEDITATE ON THE LIGHT SIDE, and those who strive in the Light are send TO ASHLA TO MEDITATE ON THE DARK SIDE?
From Bogan they could see Ashla in the sky, which was supposed to inspire them to meditate on the light side. From Ashla they could see Bogan in the sky.
@@CivilizationEx hardcore meditation, I guess
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I disagree with a lot of people who believe the Je'daii Order was correct in their way of "balance of the force". They only did so because their environment demanded it. Balance of the force is not achieved by equal parts light to dark.
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Star Wars is dead bro, just move on, no one cares about the real story because it’s all garbage, please explain a rock bro, navigator with no arms!!!! On the vessel so legendary that it’s only known as “ the vessel” none of this matters since they will change it all to fit there left narrative
This is a story from the original continuity, a story before Disney of a continuity that lives in the hearts of long term Star Wars fans.
@@enforcerridley158 And Star Wars comes from the "actual" event that took place in Orion, which we know as the Orion Wars. Also, Star Trek is the depiction they give humans in movies, that represents the presence of the Federation of United Planets, who are being permissive with the vaccination program of the satanic cabal and wish to transform humanity into a cyborg race, thru the vaccines and the New World Order.
There's a lot of Starseeds who care about these plans not coming into fruitition. The people of the matrix, zombies, are too busy being distracted and watching the television so they are the only ones who do not care. They just follow orders.
There was race of living rocks named shard in legends too and also many strange species were in old continuity like blue crying mountain on Endor or alien race that is basicly a living gas
To be fair at least the shards had robot suites to explain how they did things. Disney just took what should’ve been a sight gag background character and but then center stage with no irony
@@cosmicvibration3603 Hahaha