Why You DON'T Want to Own a Mazda RX-8 (From an RX-8 Owner)
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- If you're browsing around for a new car to mess around with, you might have considered the Mazda RX-8. However, before you make your decision, there are some things you should know. In this video, we'll explore some of the reasons as to why you might not want to own a Mazda RX-8.
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I'm not sure how I managed to film and edit this entire video and NOT NOTICE I HAD SOMETHING IN MY TEETH THE WHOLE TIME! I'm so sorry lol. Note to self: Never film right after lunch again 😅
Doesn't matter if you have something in your teeth or your hair, releasing a video is all I care about.
Probably wouldn’t have noticed or cared if you hadn’t commented this lol. PUT IT IN REVERSE TERRY
I was wondering wth was going on there hahaha, we are all human. Thanks for the vid homie.
i didnt notice till i read this comment...
The most unreliable thing I've dealt with on my RX8 has been the tail light seals always leaking and getting water in the lights. Outside of that it really isn't as unreliable as people like to make it out to be as long as you take care of it
There are aftermarket gaskets that work better... or use RTV with OE gaskets.
Bet mine would be ok 1st gen, garage kept, with 43k miles
Same thing happened on my 2005, but not until year 14 and then the other side the following year, replaced with aftermarket, no problem since!
Just give in and drill the 2 small holes on either side of the bottom and let it drain out
Finally someone who is not an expert because he read stuff on the internet but can tell people out of his own experience.
❤
I'm the 4th owner of a 2006 RX8 Shinka. I bought the car with 106k km's and it now has 130k km's in my years of daily driving it. I replaced a lot of stuff that was basic wear and tear(plugs, coils, brakes, clutch, tires, fuel pump, suspension). Never had a break down or not started and still on original engine. They can be reliable if you do your research and maintenance. It's better to do a rebuild earlier than later, which I do plan on rebuilding it myself in the next year.
Don't sleep on this car, they will go up in value over the next decade. The handling is phenomenal and punches way higher than its pay grade. Masterpiece of engineering.
youve driven the car under 30k kms, thats not really any picture of its "quality" unless its only track use. ive had my car for 200k kms and not a single issue.
@@kanggoo57 it’s on the original engine with no rebuild done. It’s at 142k kms now and still running good.
@@Suspicious0ne Well yeah, any car can do that. my car is at 410k with the original engine (not a Rx8 though, toyota)
These rx8s are not really reliable cars, but damn id like to own one. maybe one day ill buy one, who knows.
@@kanggoo57 they aren’t reliable but sometimes an outlier happens and make it a pretty decent ride. I’m scared to rebuild it and maybe get 80k kms out of the next motor.
@@Suspicious0ne Great stuff mate, does yours still start cleanly when hot? That's a good indicator you don't need a rebuild yet.
Rx8 daily driver here . Spread the love man ! P.s it feels great going uphill on rainy days !
I've owned 3. Currently have 2. If you're familiar with them and you're willing to put in some extra work to make it more reliable, then it's great. I'd recommend doing a lot of research before buying. Understand what you're getting yourself into. Make sure you have some extra money to perform the reliability mods as soon as you get it... and drive it hard. I warm up the car properly and redline it every single time I drive it. Every. Single. Time. My first car went over 100k miles without a single failure. Never left me stranded. Never once had a starting issue. Not one single problem. The engine still had good compression when I sold it. The key things you need to do are, premix, upgrade the ignition system, remove the cat, add the SOHN oil adapter, and change the oil every 3000 miles with a high quality 10W40 synthetic oil.
Synthetic? No way
That is true with any car.
@art_n5x I'd say it's more true with some cars than others. You can get away with neglect on a Toyota or Honda, not with a rotary motor or any other car that has a fickle maintenance schedule. The point I'm trying to make is, if you want to own one, you need to own the extra responsibility too. I'd be willing to bet that most rx8 owners probably shouldn't own one because they fail to step up to the ownership requirements.
I’m literally going to buy one tomorrow what do I look for dude sent me a video w good compression on a hot start
Is it less reliable than a N43 BMW? if so I’m running away fast 😂
I owned an 04 for about 2 years. In those 2 years, I was only able to put maybe 200km on it. It was almost always crippled by some major engine issue (also doesnt help that any rwd car is basically useless in the winter where I live).
However, those few kms I got to drive this car were easily the best of any car I've ever owned. It handled like a scalpel in the hands of a surgeon on aderall, the transmission shifted like butter, and the engine wanted nothing more than to scream at 8000rpm. Beautiful, focused, thoroughly inspired driving experience. If only rotaries were given a better chance at developing (not being banned from major races would have helped greatly), this would be a modern classic of a sports car.
what was the issue and how did it get fix?
@@crybaby2696 lol i fixed it by selling a broken car for a quarter of what I paid for it. Rule of thumb, the 2004 model are complete duds and there isn't a whole lot you can do
That's why you need some major knowledge and not buy a broken one that someone had no clue about and broke it and then tried to get rid of it just as you did yourself later. 😂
Noob didnt get a compression test before he bought it
As somebody who also drives one of these, I dont need to tell you that despite the lack of research or participation in races, this _is_ a modern classic sports car.
Though it can't touch an FD imo.
Been a rotary guy since 1991. Flooding is a direct result of weak compression combined with contaminated spark plugs. There is a way to start the car to move it and shut off WITHOUT it flooding.
The key is to put heat into the combustion chamber so it can burn off the excessive fuel that's dumped in during a cold start. Most newbies and old schooll rotorheads like the idle to warm up. This takes too long because the 9lb rotor is absorbing all the heat from the combustion and when you shut off quickly, the spark plugs are still wet with fuel so they don't spark well in the re-start. That's when flooding happens. To avoid this, simply start the car and REV to about 3k for as long as the air pump is running. Could be 30sec to 1min depending on outside temp. What you're doing here is causing the plugs to rapid fire and put LOTS of heat into the combustion chamber really fast. Once the air pump turns off, move your car and you will be able to shut it off and it will restart because you just now burnt off all the excessive fuel that was dumped in during that cold start. This same warm up method is also how I daily my 8 when I had it. Start car, 3k rev till airpump turns off and then go drive the car. I never let my car idle to warm up. That's actually the WORSE thing anyone can do to a rotary because all you're doing is building up lots of carbon deposits because the combustion chamber takes too long to heat up. The faster you warm these engines up, the less carbon you will create, which helps reduces carbon build up (which is what kills these engines over time).
Glad I saw this mentioned, I do the same thing practically, and agree idling is worse for carbon buildup. Often even just turning on the car and going for a drive right away keeping rpm’s at or below 3k can have the same effect too. Or revving to 3k before shutoff but I rarely even need to do this on my 07
There ways to get rid of the carbon, even if you warm up the car at idle, you can use cataclean every few months and you can redline it regularly. There are some people who modified the ECU to have higher idling revs. I think warming up the engine is extremely important.
@VinsUplifting Warming up is important as long as it's accelerated. Now, if you're doing the cat clean thing on a regular, then it doesn't matter.
¿3k rpm with cold start? it cant be good with the oil out of temperature. It is never recommended in any engine, is it still advisable in this case?
@llavero5 I know from experience because I broke down my enigne with 108k and the bearings were perfect. Also, the rotor bearings spin at 1/3rd the speed of the crank.
Edit: If this were piston, I would understand your concern as many more parts need lubrication. Rotary, it's only bearings. No valvetrain to worry about. In my cold start videos with my 20b, you can clearly see how fast oil pressure comes up. Keep in mind that the larger displacement 20b uses the same oil pump as the smaller FD 13b.
I can agree with the rx8 not being recommended as a daily as I aswell have two other cars that I can drive if something were to happen to mine, but it seems like most of these horror stories come from people buying one of these cars on their death bed and getting mad that the engine blew.
As an Alfa owner I know the pain of getting constant annoying comments about reliability lol. Your car is looking good with the body kit.
Alfa is painful though. I've had one and never again. I owned a Mazda RX8 PZ, which was the Prodrive model, and it was so good I went back years later and bought another one.
Both cars never gave me any problems.
Great video again mate I love my Rx8 I have just made a video about my omp after ages of trying to find out how to fix it 😂 it’s a big learning curve this car! I plan to go wide body as soo as I can too!
U fix it or have to replace it?
@@che2335 I replaced it video on my channel about it if you want to see mate
I’ve got a 2011 RX8 R3. I absolutely love it. It’s at about 98k miles and a paper weight currently. The engine is consuming coolant. Previous owner seized the catalytic converter then gutted it. The issue was there when I bought the car. I’ll be installing a brand new engine from Mazda, and rebuilding the one in it. But a huge thing to look out for when inspecting the car is the cat. These cars hate cats. So make sure if it has one on it when you test drive it, immediately check under the car to see if it’s glowing. If so prepare for the rebuild promptly if you buy.
❤i have one too i love my car .Smille on my face when i drive it…Every day 😅😅
The cars hate cats b/c the rotary is constantly burning or dumping oil. It's a dirty, dirty engine.
My favourite car of mine off all time. It was amazing. Ps you car looks amazing in the thumbnail! 🎉😮
Excellent video! Not a rotary guy, but I definitely get it!
Back in 2010 when I was considering a replacement for my aging A4 quattro, I'd decided I didn't want another 4 door sedan so I considered the RX8. My first car bought new was a 1979 RX7. I'd been wanting an RX7 since they had come out the previous year. It was so much fun to drive in Michigan summers - winters I put it away and drove a beater. I eventually sold it with ~75000 miles on it. It was actually quite reliable but then I took good care of it. So, the RX8 was definitely a consideration and it was certainly fun when I test drove it. But I got the distinct impression that this was likely a last gasp for rotary engines even those from Mazda. Ultimately, after a fun track day sponsored by Hyundai promoting its new Genesis Coupe, I decided to go with that car instead. I opted for the 3.8L V6 with the ZF automatic transmission (I didn't like the feel of the stick and I was not alone in that!) I'm still enjoying that car and may have to keep it awhile longer as, sadly, there's not much in the way of affordable sports cars any more. Maybe I'll look at the new Z or a Supra since Hyundai seems to have abandoned the sports car segment.
My first turbocharged car was an FCRX7 turbo II, but that was in 2002, before RUclips videos about premix, oil consumption etc. and it was before the rx8 so not even the Mazda dealership knew how to work on them. I wish I had a “do over” with that car with what I know now, 20 years later
Same here, I blew 3 engines and gave up in 03
We need more “why rx8s are bad” videos so people can stay away and keep the market down. Once I have one along with my current fc then priced can start going up😁
Some people just make bad investments... the price will go up... only if scrap metal prices go up!
I've had a RX-7 FB for a few months now and it's been an absolute joy to drive! I love the rotary, I WILL own a rotary again. They're absolutly so fun to drive and rev out and you just can't do that in most cars! But the rotary loves it! The direct steering and visceral, screaming 12A is amazing. And the back roads around me in rural southern wisconsin is the perfect playground!
I enjoyed my Mazda rx8 for the two years I had it. 2004 with 146k miles , automatic transmission. I rescued it from a friend after he had flooded it and left on car ramps for a whole year. It was slow but it sounded like a motorcycle which was great. Bought the original air intake setup from eBay as the k&n typhoon looked inefficient. I sold it for something more fuel efficient, the next buyer broke the engine in 6 months
I own a 2006 red copper shinka and I got it with 88k miles and as an owner I’ll tell you this it’s a bitch to maintain but in the end it’s fun knowing you have a car that you work on while keeping it operational and drivable 😎
If you can find one, get a Series 2. Have had ours for 5 yrs and still loving it. Has done 175,000 Kms (110,000 miles) without a rebuild and is still holding 100psi per face.
Meaning like, the 2008-2012 model?
@@OtomoTenzi yep, ours in a 2009 series 2
Already own it for 5 years..still no major problem..just regular maintenance of engine oil,coolant system,and pre mixing..really love it.
If your RX stops consuming oil then you know the oil metering pump is out. But it is more subtle than RX-7s were. They dialed down the amount of oil metered for emissions. Especially on the S1 cars.
You should swap GSLSE rx7 rotor housings to get the peripheral exhaust ports. Then you get the old school brap (for bridgeport) and also reduce carbon build up which the multiside ports of the renesis was notorious for.
Look up Hybrid Renesis. I think boost works better for this configuration too but the seals need to be changed to atleast carbon. Kyle Mohan Racing has tons of videos on this.
That setup is still in its grassroots. Not many have run it but it definitely does seem to work for the most part It's a bit of a doozy to get all the parts.
renny hybrid builds are notoriously unreliable for some reason. No one seems to have pinpointed the issue yet but its just easier to stick to one of the other right now
@@jaxontanner9822 hence why there aren't many around or documented.
Don't do this. The hybrid builds never work.
I just purchased a 2010 rx8, c fun car , my first sports car , has over 100k and runs strong, do have a question should I premix fuel or not ????
I've always loved the RX8, I'm just not sold on the rotary so I'd be swapping mine but I also want to build it as a track car.
Rotaries are a lot more reliable now. You just gotta be an enthusiast and actually look after it with regular maintenance.
When this came out I swore it would be a beast at speed. But as an older driver I now know they are better at driving this platform. #wisdom
Its why I got a Series 2 RX-8...I had it to 120k miles with original engine before it got rear ended. It was still drivable but Insurance says with the body damage it will cost $13k to fix where my car was currently worth $6k due to the milage...so they declared it totaled.
I now drive a 2015 9th Gen Civic Si Coupe...aint the same but oh well
My rx8 is more reliable than my mk6 golf R, and I’m turboing it. It’s not hard if you do it right.
i say you can turbo renesis motors, it's just you can't run that much boost on them
yo you know you should have the updated starter put in. My car used to flood all the time until i put the starter in and now i can run it for 5 seconds shut it off and it turns right back on
If it floods you need a new engine
What wheels are you running
Have had an RX8 since 2006. Replaced the motor at 130,000 for 5K. Didn't have to but because of reports like above I did. I drove the hell out of it. Still do. You don't baby this car. If you do you will lose the compression early in a rotary motor. Understand the motor and "Drive it like you stole it" should be the motto. It is a 17 year old car. Everything still works. Will go 200 mph on the track and gets about 21 mpg. Is there another 21 year old car that will go 200 mph and get better gas mileage and handle as well? And each RX8 that is left will be a collectors item. Probably the he last rotary motors to be made.
And here we go with the fairy tales.
I'd bet that you never got to the factory top speed of 170, on track or off. Sub 300hp means you can, not that it's easy or that you can find the run out to do it.
200mph typically means 500+ hp and more importantly, torque.
At least you didn't claim a 20,000rpm redline or something.
Rotaries are good at one thing, endurance racing.
That's it. The one place it actually mogs piston engines.
Otherwise they're just a PITA inefficient motor with a laundry list of issues. Mazda only kept at it because they needed some way to stand out, so much that they made the lulzy REPU.
The RX7 would otherwise have been an ugly 240Z knockoff, an off brand Celica Supra. Also ran Starion.
a lady hit me off the road and i only bent my rear wheel in from hitting the curb i had to replace everything in the diagram at 6:26 it took me 3 days minus 1 day of pretending to work but luckily i found someone selling the whole assembly basically brand new for 200 flat but i also live in CT so not much rust
I once had an RX8 for a couple months for the sole purpose of flipping it on the side. If I had more cash on me at the time, I probably would have kept (I really wanted to). I currently have an E46 M3 convertible. I love the car, but not only is it heavy, but to get it to the point where I'd be satisfied with it, I could buy AND build and RX8 for less than half of what I would spend on my M3. (That includes turbo-ing the RX8 too). My plan is to sell my M3, get a reliable daily, and then pick up an RX8 when I can. Don't care what condition it'll be in, because I would rebuild the MF anyways lol.
Wise choice. Audi make a nice daily. I live in Cornwall. M3 wouldn't last long here. MTM B7 S4 2.0 t probably better than M3.
Mine will cold start back to back as long as plugs coils and wires are good...and compression too..
I bought one the title said formely abandoned 😂. I had just over 60k on it. I got it running with cheaper parts from Amazon. Drove it like I stole everyday on 87 octane gas. Changed the oil with non sysnthetic every 3k miles. Unfortunately it was sideswiped pretty bad in a parking lot I scrapped it with just over 160k miles on it. Oh and I replaced the cat with a 49 state cat from walker and no it didn’t melt it lasted the whole time I drove it. And I replaced 1 oil hose that I had made at a hose shop for 100 bucks
Wish me luck guys bought a engine is at the mechanic being swap today at some point in time . Ppl say why not the Audi s4 first is just that the rotary feels different is a little cheaper than an Audi s4 b5
I don’t get it? I had an old RX 4 it had a 4 barrel carburetor with a semi automatic choke. The car had much different characteristics than RX 7s I drove it had a red line of 6500 and had nothing at that rpm all it’s power was between 800-5500 rpm’s and the only car I ever had that double yellow lines didn’t mean anything and there wasn’t a day go by that I didn’t do a 100 mph. And was an everyday driver however I did have to change plugs and points every year. Also never had starting problems. The RX7s were gutless at low rpm’s?
Is there a website for the sohn adapter kit in the usa since i really can’t find one. I found the adapter on ebay without the kit
Sohn kit is a useless gimmick... dont waste your time or money, just buy a better car.
I just gotten one from a lady I have some mechanic knowledge but never had experience with transmissions and sadly my car is stuck in 3rd won't shift to 4th or 5th anyone know what to go about it
I keep thinking K24/k20 frank Supercharged..... I know blasphemy but it works in that chassis and works very well. Budget build/cool car K24/k20 frank 8hp trans (with clutch yes with auto it is a thing turbolamik) in an rx8 shell...
What is your honest opinion on a twin-turbo setup for this kinda oil-thirsty car? Is that even gonna be possible? 🤔
I wish i knew the difference between the Renesis and REW before i rebuild the renesis, i should have gone REW.
Hey I’m looking for my first car which one i go for ?
Should i go for rx8 ?
Plus I don’t know much engine works how to do
But after watching video or something i can do
Suggestion please
I’m so confused
If you get one and keep it for a few years,you'll probably be qualified as a mechanic by the end
I use to have one. I loved it. One of the best car I had driven. But it starting failing on me, I had to press the gas at every stop or red light or it would die on me. I took it to different mechanics but we're not able to get it fix. So I had to sell it
I own 2 RX-8 Series 2 can be a perfect daily drive mine has over 115k with original engine 0 issues while the series 1 blew up at 87,000 and now has a Renesis Hybrid Bridgeport build engine.
my 04 8 had 164k miles on it b4 it the engine went 1 owner florida company car got it for 2500 and it lasted me 6 years of abuse with premix and frequent oil changes
Sohn adapters are common in series 1 or pre-2009. The series 2 motors have improvements to oil delivery but premixing is still recommended. Same for the starters.
Early series 1 starters were not up to snuff and was upgraded later on. Upgrading the starter is also a common upgrade. It will help with lower compression and flooding.
Thank God I bought a 2011 so I wouldn't have to deal with all these early model issues
My Dad had the Rx-3 back in the day and I would humble the V8 muscle cars. They might catch me if they gave it their all but most were surprised off the line and gave up.
Sadly I rolled it in the twisties.
It seems some of the extreme weather tricks from places like Minnesota could help like oil heaters or diesel glow plugs. Design a spark plug heater.
I just heard of a new metal invented by some College for aerospace.
It can withstand 3000 degrees.
Gotta get some and make apex seals.
I really didn't like the front fender hammerhead look but it's starting to grow on me.
Nothing can be done about the poor gas mileage though.
Dreaming about creating an electric field around a magnetized rotor to make a hybrid.
A smaller battery pack could be recharged by a high power alternator.
Now you can run errands on electric and use the gas only when needed.
Dream on.
I am kickn around the idea of a small block ford in the rx8 anyone do something similar?
beautiful car! great video, this car/model will hold its own place as a true classic in a new world of only EV cars
its my favorite car i love the Rx8 . where im you have 2 type of Rx8 owners .
those who dont know what they own and end up with a broken car
and those with car with over 150k 200k khm on them and still going.
Just bought a 2005 Rx8 for $2000. Car is beautiful but the engine had no compression. Pulled the plugs and dumped a bunch of ATF in the engine. Installed new plugs and it fired right up! Of course I smoked out the neighbors for a while😀
Mine had 8 owners before i bought it, i redline every shift drivent it 15k miles, and never had an issue. Its currently about 87k miles, tracked every weekend and it begs to be beaten on
its probably had 8 engines by now too...
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke ur a mall crawler in a nazi hauler
Im the OG owner of my 2005 model. Picked it up 6/7/05
Do you premix what do you use, I’m going to look at one tomorrow and probably going to buy it
I wasn't too sure of spending $1800 AUD on BR coilovers on the rx8 but god damn it woke the car up 100% worth changing the Suspension as OEM at this day in age for the rx8 is just too old!
I bought mine without compression test, without any informations regarding maintenance and without even having seen the previous owner! I have had it for 7 years and a half without any problem although i look after it diligently. While it's my third car so i don't drive much with it, i am either the luckiest person on earth (no i'm not) or the bad reputation of the car is grossly unwaranted..
You are the lucky person in the world... but your luck will run out soon enough.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Jeez... Thanks.
@@VinsUplifting Sell it now while you still can... you will wish you had if you dont sell before it fails
I own a 2004 Mazda RX8 been sitting at my house for 9 years. Just recently put it on the road 84k with a rebuilt engine. All fluids were changed but after driving about 30 minutes I smell like a burning smell. Is that normal?
Could be somethin' clogged with the seals... Sittin' in the garage for like 9 YEARS? Did you get all the fluid systems FLUSHED??? 🤨
Yes everything flushed
@@jeffreyfalto497OK, but does the burning smell persist even now? How often are you driving it? These things are known to burn oil tho... 🤔
I blame you for 8s doubling in price in my area over the last year.
Loved the video! You did a great job pointing out the rx8's pros and cons. I have owned mine for about 6 years now and it is still a blast to drive.
I found one with 14k miles 2 years ago. Having some codes at 40k but it still drives fine. Something minor in the manifold.
Compression test? they are known to fail with as little as 30k miles
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke don’t put that on me. Motor feels strong tho, performance is not affected at all
@@zeezlebops Trust me, the compression test results will shock you...
Comm3nt for the alg0 and rx8 love
At least your Rx8 ant 36 years old like my car. Great Video Also
I can speak from 8 years of RX8 ownership, that is has indeed been a journey... gone through almost every bolt on that car (engine included), and it's definitely not for the fainthearted. That being said, the one thing I absolutely hate about my particular experience is this: I can't for the life of me figure out why my clutch master and slave need to be replaced almost every year. Something is contaminating my fluid on that side of the hydraulic system, and it seems to be a failing master... why this is happening, beats me...
Some people are just slow learners... most people by now would have realized that the RX8 is the most unreliable pile of junk Mazda ever made.
I have much more appreciation now for anyone working on an RX8
I bought my stock RX8 13 years ago with 30k miles on the clock. I’ve done 12k since and loved every single mile of it.
Flooded once or twice but that was my fault. No big problem Deflooding if you follow the handbook.
One ssv solenoid, 4 tyres, two roll bar links and new spark plugs. All DIY stuff. Regular oil changes, with Mazda mineral 5w30 and that’s all.
Also all the recalls done. No mods.
I and everyone else love my Rx8 2.6. Selling it is out of the question.
I thought all Renesis were dual 1.3, making them 2.6.
You obviously need a new engine...
tells you how you dont want an RX8 and while the thumbnail is looking very inticing lol. car is nice AF!
Theres a video of start ,stop procedure, so it wont flood.
It only floods when the seals go bad...
I wanted to buy one but my dad told me not to but i did and now i know he was right😂😂 but i still love it.
I'm surprised, usually these type of vids are just all misleading info.
One thing to add though is that flooding is a sign that something is wrong with the car. You should be able to start and stop your car whenever.
examples of flooding with:
fuel: leaky injectors or an issue with starter/battery/compression > cranking too many times
coolant: coolant seals (headgaskets)
oil: oil control rings
I owned an NB Miata. Then I had kids. So I drove an RX-8 for 7 years. Got it to 160k on the original apex seals.
Then I had more kids, so I sold it.
All these years later with the ability to buy a weekend toy, I picked up...another NB Miata.
I enjoyed a lot of things about the RX-8, and it had a lot of redeeming qualities. But I don't think I'd ever want to own another one. I don't have a ton of time to be performing maintenance, I never trusted the average mechanic to deal with it, and when I do get to enjoy the weekend toy I want to just get in and go.
Friend bought one. Now has three. For spare parts. Takes up a lot of space for a junk yard.
The biggest thing is maintenance, premix, and that old rotary saying red line a day keeps the carbon away. Got mine at 94 thousand miles and been driving the shit out of it. I'm at 114 thousand, and it still starts hot and cold.
Or rebuild as you said
I've always used that same phrase with my BMW, especially my supercharged M3 and 335.
1st thing I do swap the engine
Thanks Gels I get people that tell me they really want an RX8 and I have too tell them do you know what your getting yourself into!!! Research research research…
I have 17,000k miles on my RX8 and I baby the crap out of it on maintenance and drive it like a rag doll 😂
you *NEED* to redline your shit every day or every second drive, 'cause if you're just "driving it like a rag doll" then you're asking for carbon buildup to fuck everything up
@@JQNAH I can happily report that’s pretty much driving it like a rag doll, throwing them gears redlining revs and taking turns above 5k RPM 🤣
@@okexotics7576 just a slight misinterpretation on my end
Watch several rx8 videos, no one mentions how much it cost to rebuild the rotary engine.
tbh the only thing that keeps me buying it is, not having a drivers license and the fuel consumption
The doritos, especially the 13b, and a different experience, and one of the best there is. The linear power is elecrtic-like.
300-400whp (on E30 or higher) is not unreasonable for a properly turbocharged renesis.
Hmm, our '04 RX-8 has less than 80k miles. Maybe I should think about selling.
Mine is upto it's 2nd rebuild
How to make it reliable, LS2 Swap it
Love my S2 RX8
The most important factor of owning an rx8, is the FUN of it. It will outhandle nearly anything else available.
And if you want to beef up the power, do what I did. 20b Turbo.
Then your set. Nothing is as much fun once u got 600hp in this chassis 🔥🔥🔥
How much was that?
@@CarlosGonzalez-vi9qv 20b conversion, sooo much!! 40k Approx. Turbo fuel parts etc. did most of labour myself. So saved 30k there
@@SinfidelityMusicplan on buying a rx-8 for my first project and weekend car I’m just gonna use a 13b until it goes then 20b swap it since I’ll have more money by the time the 13b is done
Why do I feel like I'm the only rx8 owner whose engine just doesn't flood?
My rx7 would flood all the time, but never rx8
What is funny thou all these people who have moaned about the mazda rx8 are pritty much 90% off people who are new to the rotary rx scene. Most the problems have been around since the first rx was released but the most common thing is to rid the cat and premix to any model prior to 06 as after 06 they introduced 6omps but really best bet would be to remove it and stick to premix then you can move to a heavier oil 20/50 20/60 as its also the shet factory spec oils that kill these engines along with carbon build up off it tryna burn the oil in the engine if you owned rotas before its a simple recipe keeping these fresh and alive for a longtime
As an RX-8 owner, I can tell you that it's the best of the worst car you can buy 😎
My omp just went out $850 😢
Owning an RX8 is really just this. 1. Billet pro. 2. Ceramic seals. That's it. You have a normal car, with no premix, no 3k miles oil changes, no oil catch can, no engine rebuilding at under 100k miles etc.
Yes, billet pro is expensive; up front. You will blow through a billet pro upgrade during the 1st year of ownership just in basic maintenance anyway so that would be something to take into consideration BEFORE buying one.
Or even better: buy a cheap RX8 with a blown engine and billet pro it.
i really wonder about the original owners of these cars, im sure they werent the enthusiast of today but more so people just buying a commuter
I’m seating in my Rx8 as we speak watching this. I’m the 3rd owner just did oil change in twice the frequency as my Saab and Porsche. Just did the spark plugs again twice as often warm it up bla bla. Is like you have to be in my kinky lifestyle. You have to be educated in it like rotaries you have to be kind of masochistic. There’s pain but pleasure reward. Plus low gas mileage. So get into kink educated in it and masochism then maybe you have the right mindset to get into rotaries. Specially Rx8 because the FD is overrated and expensive. And also I hate a dummy get an Rx8 to ruin it so now it gets junked for everyone else. Don’t do that. Good luck.
Basically what I'm hearing is rotary and ej owners are a similar breed 🤔
Pretty much seems that way, we fall in too deep and then just accept it 😂
Buy an S2 RX8 - Solves a lot of the problems mentioned in the video lol.
I have had no problems with my rx8 but then again I do know how to look after it. Only issues I have had is the battery eating itself so I am on my 4th in 3 years of ownership. Premix with good oil and change the engine oil regularly and you are golden.
Lousy gas mileage?
I always hear from people who own RX-8’s to never get one, even guys who own both RX-7’s and 8’s will say they recommend the 7’s but not 8’s. The engines do have some reliability issues even outside of just normal rotary issues, as well as the transmissions being a little more fragile than the older FC or FD transmissions.
the na rx7 transmission are really nothing to freak out about and if you arent dumping the clutch you'll never have an issue with the rx8 transmission. The drivetrain in an rx8 is 10x better than any na fc.
Whoever told you this lied. The transmission is worlds better than anything the RX-7 ever offered, and the engine is the most reliable and most powerful N/A rotary ever built. I guess it all comes down to personal preference, but after buying a cheap R3 after 4 years of ownership with my FD RX-7, I sold the RX-7 because at the end of the day, the 8 was just easier to live with and I didn't feel nearly as bad beating on it as I did my 7.
Best and worst car ive ever had. First 4 years were amazing, 2 engines later, warm up starts, flooding engine, poor mpg.
The general consensus out there with the gearheads, is that if you could install a turbokit somehow; it will prolly make like about 400+ horsepower at the wheels... Capable of 250+ MPH top speed if tune right? It HAS the potential to compete with some WRXs and Supras out there. But bein' already oil-thirsty and all, I dunno how it might adversely or negatively affect the engine's overall longevity tho. You absolutely HAVE TO change the oil within every 3K miles on these things! Oil/fuel pollution and smog are also BIG issues. Any clues?
General consensus among automotive experts is the RX8 is the worst sedan Mazda ever made... the engine is so unreliable and weak its like a ticking time bomb!
Hand it to me, I'll have it
I’ve got a pearl white 40th anniversary (2008)with 14k miles on the clock owned it from new every year I tell myself I’ll get it back on the road.
I have a 40th anniversary edition in the UK number 155 with only 54 on the clock. Proper maintenance is key with it it just the people who don't understand it that hate it. Mine is metropolitan mica grey and in my opinion is the best colour.
@@davidpriestley7585 mine number 24 I believe lovely cars
Was that the original color, or was it repainted?
@@OtomoTenzi Pearl white original UK.
And I thought my porsche was a needy girl. I'll pass on the 2 stroke snowmobile engine premix, as these rx-8 are like a supermodel well past her prime, with a bad coke habit.