“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?” No, he missed a caster minion Lose Streak: 1 In the second game, he missed a caster minion Lose Streak: 2 In the third game, he got all 6! Win Streak: 1
@@nuttybuddy7928 ok fair but hey vegetable juice can count as vegetables for your diet to some degree and beer is clearly vegetable juice.. or fermented vegetables.. like kombucha for crazy people
Riot is blind to see that Sion's death timer should start AFTER the passive dies, early game he respawn instantly after farming the whole wave while dead
Yeah sure the early deathtimers are sions identity, not the fact that he is incredibly hard to kill and once you've finally done it he revives and you gotta stop him again.
Happens all too often. You destroy your opponent, look up, and your entire team has not only lost their lanes, but fed them until there's no coming back. And then they proceed to blame you, because them losing their lane is never their fault.
The thing about the last match against Sion, the reason why Sion was a level higher than you is because you missed your minions, while he got all the minions before and after he died. I don't know, but from all games I've seen, I mostly see things like minions or jungle mobs being the primary source of EXP, ESPECIALLY if you're the one that kills it. I don't often see people leveling up from kills, or could be just me. Sion just has too many ways to keep up, even with dying a lot. He can ult back to lane, he could TP back, and his death count goes down even when he is supposedly, "Alive." Another reason why your level is lower is because you're also missing minion exp from the kills your tower is doing. Not only that, you're building up your shutdown Gold for Sion's other teammates, so when you die, you lose way more than you gain from killing Sion. As the more Sion dies, the less gold he gives. So in a sense, it is a major loss EVEN TRYING TO STOP HIM! Because he has MORE to gain dying and getting all the minion kills than you do stopping him. Oh, and let's not forget how there is no way for any of the minions to die from outside interference for Sion. No tower shots, no minion damage, just Sion doing the killing. Meaning he always gets the kill, and getting the full benefit, while you are losing more trying to stop him. Neat, right? I know of two Sion mains that do this often. One is Tilterella (who is really good), while the other is the main person who started this Sion trend, Thebausffs (The one and only).
@@callmechili fight fire with fire. Singed Proxy lol. Otherwise, do champs like Nasus, who would love this. As they can passively farm stacks safely, as the Sion would be too busy doing his proxy. Just any champ that are weak early, but get super strong late. Again, Singed Proxy would be strong against that too, as your jungler won’t have a hard time chasing and killing Sion. While Singed… I think you know what I mean. You just don’t chase a Singed unless you know you can kill him. Edit: You can decide to body block Sion’s ult with Singed too and be an ass. Edit 2: Singed could also stall more effectively than Sion in my opinion. The more the enemy chase you, the more easily your teammates take objectives. Unless they have one brain cell.
11:40 Zwag: OMG. That was kinda close. I don't have anything up, I just gotta auto, but I got triforce and I got the sheen proc from that Q. Ornn: that fixed everything. xD *smug*
Zwag, can we get a burn Morg mid game? Been stomping with it lately and really enjoying it. Doing Deathfire into Liandry’s, having trouble deciding which magic pen item I like more… Also, even though it got nerfed lately, Storm Surge Neeko or Fiddle!
15:00 that milio screwed warwick harder than ive ever seen any enchanter do before, leaving him to dry while watching when between all of their healing thats a fight they can take together
No base Ornn build with essence reaver + warmog’s.. back off into the jungle and say you’ll bide your time and will be there when the time is right in a mysterious voice whenever someone gets you low
You, W was not canceled, if he gives W and Q and has a passive from W, then if he stands in the circle where the pillar from Q comes out, he will do his bonk.
2 great games P.s against Sion: ornn lovers proxy, Just stay calma AND FARM under the Tower. P.s.2: If you dont have mana u dont need back base every 3 minutes. BUILD some itens of mana OR put mana regen on runes ❤
Maw, overlords, termlimit, deathsdance, qss sword all give ad and resists. Doesn't GA also give ad and resists i haven't built one in years. Going all in on the HP ad items and going overlords, sounds decent, tri, sunder, spell shield, cleaver, sojo. I guess with brittle they dont want him scaling too much damage with resists. Dont need a second kasante
I love the last game. it shows bausen law used by a total noob. It got nerved the last season almost every patch. And in the next patch they will remove it. It basicly says tempo is more valuable early game then kills and this is why Zwag falls behind so much and why his playstyle requires him to play almost perfect games. If you want to learn more. BausFFS made a guide how his playstyle works on youtube. it highlights really interesting mechanics in the game.
day 7 asking for ad+hp bruiser kench running sundered sky / heartsteel > titanic > steraks > bloodmail > hullbreaker to capitalize on bruiser items giving more hp than tank items now kench passive turns hp into magic damage as well turning you into someone you cant really itemize against at all
Sion isnt good anymore and good ornn doesnt get out tempod like that. Only thing sion still has is waveclear so wave management and out trading him before he gets the proxy is the way to beat him early. Later when he takes to long for you to kill ask for help for free kills if good tank killer jung like viego or just proxy depending on enemy jungler is wasting his time around you or elsewhere. Last option farm normally. Ornn and his upgrades out scale sion like crazy in teamfights and utility but might lose 1v1. 2 for 3
the scion problem is clearly shown here. He can instantly get back to lane, proxy it die instantly still clear the whole wave in his passive, die and be right back. You can't push the tower cause all of your minions are dead always. So the only thing you can do is let him full proxy the entire time, until you hope you have a jg who can just spend the entire time top... which really puts your juggler behind and makes other lanes rough. Meanwhile he is just getting perfect farm. The second you step away to recall for mana or anything he takes your tower. swaps to any lane he wants instantly and keeps taking them. So you have to dedicate 2 of your champions to stop it. Thus it becomes a 5v3 or he just runs things down and wins. A few fixes His death timer starts when he enters the fountain..... They increase his ult timer, they leave the ult timer but have it cause him to be in "exhausted mode" for 5-seconds. Lore works big boy just ran all adreline like to lane now he is winded and can't fight well till he catches breath. This will make his ult become something he has to think about. Could even make it to where if he hits an enemy with his ult the exhaust mode isn't applied. OR just do like they had to with the towers. When he dies he does zero damage to anything but enemy champions. That way you just instant kill him and he loses farm.
Sound the Hornn, he's playing Ornn!
*ha-oh ha-oh* I don't think my clown horn is appropriate.
And u just put the corn in corny.
@@Obiwannadoobie777 cornn in cornny
been playing ornn since i was bornn
@@tynosukeI first learned about Ornn through Pornn
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed a caster minion
Lose Streak: 1
In the second game, he missed a caster minion
Lose Streak: 2
In the third game, he got all 6!
Win Streak: 1
what about third game?
@@symmol27 poor Kyle got stunlocked by the fact he has 3 games in 1 video
Did Kyle get it right this video? No he didn't! He forgot that Zwag played 3 games on this video.
Lose Streak: 1
@@symmol27the fucking WHAT???
@@ericbrock7824first time that’s happened in such a short video
as for what Ornn eats, well; "The best meal is a herd of cattle. With dark beer."
Dark beer is the way
hey wait beer is made from wheat.. wheat is a plant therefore beer is a vegetable
@@Zakaarus but you don’t eat beer, unless something has gone horribly wrong with the brewing process
@@nuttybuddy7928 ok fair but hey vegetable juice can count as vegetables for your diet to some degree
and beer is clearly vegetable juice.. or fermented vegetables.. like kombucha for crazy people
@@Zakaarus beer is just soymilk for alcoholics
Suffering from success in game one😂
and just regular suffering in the second one
Riot is blind to see that Sion's death timer should start AFTER the passive dies, early game he respawn instantly after farming the whole wave while dead
wow thats almost like it's his whole champ and the only thing that makes him viable. just cc him in his passive
Yeah sure the early deathtimers are sions identity, not the fact that he is incredibly hard to kill and once you've finally done it he revives and you gotta stop him again.
@@VorticalGab0 his identity is infinite tempo, the tankiness lets him scale. his passive is pretty useless otherwise, just cc him or run
The same should apply to Kog and Karthus
@@Bejeweler1 it does
Happens all too often. You destroy your opponent, look up, and your entire team has not only lost their lanes, but fed them until there's no coming back. And then they proceed to blame you, because them losing their lane is never their fault.
Once again, I am here before the minion count guy. I have never felt so accomplished in my entire existence.!
Hey, his name is Kyle, how dare you
Kyle is a busy man
Pppp
@@caszebra4012
The thing about the last match against Sion, the reason why Sion was a level higher than you is because you missed your minions, while he got all the minions before and after he died. I don't know, but from all games I've seen, I mostly see things like minions or jungle mobs being the primary source of EXP, ESPECIALLY if you're the one that kills it. I don't often see people leveling up from kills, or could be just me.
Sion just has too many ways to keep up, even with dying a lot. He can ult back to lane, he could TP back, and his death count goes down even when he is supposedly, "Alive."
Another reason why your level is lower is because you're also missing minion exp from the kills your tower is doing. Not only that, you're building up your shutdown Gold for Sion's other teammates, so when you die, you lose way more than you gain from killing Sion. As the more Sion dies, the less gold he gives. So in a sense, it is a major loss EVEN TRYING TO STOP HIM! Because he has MORE to gain dying and getting all the minion kills than you do stopping him. Oh, and let's not forget how there is no way for any of the minions to die from outside interference for Sion. No tower shots, no minion damage, just Sion doing the killing. Meaning he always gets the kill, and getting the full benefit, while you are losing more trying to stop him. Neat, right?
I know of two Sion mains that do this often. One is Tilterella (who is really good), while the other is the main person who started this Sion trend, Thebausffs (The one and only).
So how do you win against it? Keep killing him asap until all the abilities to get back to lane are on cooldown?
You mean Thebausffs?
Baufsf, he the streamer that use the " INTING SION" mostly
@@callmechili fight fire with fire. Singed Proxy lol. Otherwise, do champs like Nasus, who would love this. As they can passively farm stacks safely, as the Sion would be too busy doing his proxy.
Just any champ that are weak early, but get super strong late.
Again, Singed Proxy would be strong against that too, as your jungler won’t have a hard time chasing and killing Sion. While Singed… I think you know what I mean. You just don’t chase a Singed unless you know you can kill him.
Edit: You can decide to body block Sion’s ult with Singed too and be an ass.
Edit 2: Singed could also stall more effectively than Sion in my opinion. The more the enemy chase you, the more easily your teammates take objectives. Unless they have one brain cell.
@@callmechili free farm and get grubs uncontested
11:40
Zwag: OMG. That was kinda close. I don't have anything up, I just gotta auto, but I got triforce and I got the sheen proc from that Q.
Ornn: that fixed everything. xD *smug*
Zwag does not know the bausen’s law
27:00 - right after saying "I'm clappin' him", Nasus's dead body did a weird bump in agreement. XD
thank you for not staying in the second game. love you
Want to know if a Dark Harvest Nami is possible pretty please? been a long time since you did a full ap Nami. Thank you!
The reason why you couldn't bonk a couple times is that your Q and other CCs will Proc your "brittle" auto attack
Super fun vid, Zwag! Very fun build and games!
Zwag, can we get a burn Morg mid game? Been stomping with it lately and really enjoying it. Doing Deathfire into Liandry’s, having trouble deciding which magic pen item I like more…
Also, even though it got nerfed lately, Storm Surge Neeko or Fiddle!
Again always forever morg with liandrys 😂😂😂 theres thiusands morgs like that 😒
15:00 that milio screwed warwick harder than ive ever seen any enchanter do before, leaving him to dry while watching when between all of their healing thats a fight they can take together
No base Ornn build with essence reaver + warmog’s.. back off into the jungle and say you’ll bide your time and will be there when the time is right in a mysterious voice whenever someone gets you low
You absolutely have to take teleport against Sion, it's the only way to keep up with him
Second skin of the day: Classic Ornn.
30 minute fiesta fight
Yeah your team dropped the ball there but ya gotta hand it to that Jhin. Bro spaced that and played it so well
The 2nd game ragequit 😂
Ah, yes, the usuall "It's crazy build!" with 4/0/0 on 5 minute. Anything will work when you so far ahead.
Bonk
If ever you play ornn again, try his triple brittle combo, q and r, then e into your r then r knock up finally w
erm its actually q r e auto r w auto
@@thatoneguywhosaysbyethenwa1720yup
This is gonna be a fun one I can tell!
every time I see an ability with no scaling on its damage and only a base I just want to see it with navori quickblades
Thanks Zwag!
Braun, give him back his door
I feel like a muramana would be amazing for this build and Q spam
7:44
He said "mrghm mrrhumf"
Wich means "leave a like and a comment" in ornnish
Sion used Baus law pretty well
no
@@rollihd714 yes
The second game gave me Lyme disease just in time for the third game to give me hepatitis. Team diff, holy shit.
You, W was not canceled, if he gives W and Q and has a passive from W, then if he stands in the circle where the pillar from Q comes out, he will do his bonk.
28:49 No, that would be an RKO.
2 great games
P.s against Sion:
ornn lovers proxy, Just stay calma AND FARM under the Tower.
P.s.2:
If you dont have mana u dont need back base every 3 minutes. BUILD some itens of mana OR put mana regen on runes
❤
Can we see sylas crit ? With navori it could works well with his passive + full cc
he did that not too long ago
Day 57 of asking Zwag to play full move speed Yorick, because no one ever seen a 'Rick run so fast.
Gn bro ggs
I wish he was with the "Chooo Chooo" skin :'3
Dear zwag please tell me which champion i need to carry my team so i can win
i dont think he said anything i think he just muttered nonsense haha
Zwag Xerath sadly lost one cannon in game one
And lost no cannons in game two
And lost no cannons in game three
Ornn curse, you never win when you play ornn. It’s logical. He gives the entire team an extra item basically gg
Maw, overlords, termlimit, deathsdance, qss sword all give ad and resists. Doesn't GA also give ad and resists i haven't built one in years. Going all in on the HP ad items and going overlords, sounds decent, tri, sunder, spell shield, cleaver, sojo. I guess with brittle they dont want him scaling too much damage with resists. Dont need a second kasante
im sorry but what the hell is termlimit?
@@IIIlIl terminus
Can someone explain what bonuses from all sources mean?
I love the last game. it shows bausen law used by a total noob.
It got nerved the last season almost every patch. And in the next patch they will remove it. It basicly says tempo is more valuable early game then kills and this is why Zwag falls behind so much and why his playstyle requires him to play almost perfect games.
If you want to learn more. BausFFS made a guide how his playstyle works on youtube. it highlights really interesting mechanics in the game.
(orn triforce says) "my mid lanes build is so bad."
Having 10 of your teams 14 kills...as a Top Tank. FeelsBadMan
attackspeed sylas
u can block ww ult with ur e i think
Best LoL player of all
had to scroll to min 50 to see the 2 Items in the thumbnail
day 7 asking for ad+hp bruiser kench running sundered sky / heartsteel > titanic > steraks > bloodmail > hullbreaker to capitalize on bruiser items giving more hp than tank items now
kench passive turns hp into magic damage as well turning you into someone you cant really itemize against at all
Here before Kyle 😮
We need another 0 base Ornn!
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I'm not watching 3 games
Sion isnt good anymore and good ornn doesnt get out tempod like that. Only thing sion still has is waveclear so wave management and out trading him before he gets the proxy is the way to beat him early. Later when he takes to long for you to kill ask for help for free kills if good tank killer jung like viego or just proxy depending on enemy jungler is wasting his time around you or elsewhere. Last option farm normally. Ornn and his upgrades out scale sion like crazy in teamfights and utility but might lose 1v1. 2 for 3
I thought ad ornn was cool tho and the nasus game was really well played
35:13 mote diff
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WTF, 3 games in a row?
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the scion problem is clearly shown here. He can instantly get back to lane, proxy it die instantly still clear the whole wave in his passive, die and be right back. You can't push the tower cause all of your minions are dead always. So the only thing you can do is let him full proxy the entire time, until you hope you have a jg who can just spend the entire time top... which really puts your juggler behind and makes other lanes rough. Meanwhile he is just getting perfect farm. The second you step away to recall for mana or anything he takes your tower. swaps to any lane he wants instantly and keeps taking them. So you have to dedicate 2 of your champions to stop it. Thus it becomes a 5v3 or he just runs things down and wins. A few fixes His death timer starts when he enters the fountain..... They increase his ult timer, they leave the ult timer but have it cause him to be in "exhausted mode" for 5-seconds. Lore works big boy just ran all adreline like to lane now he is winded and can't fight well till he catches breath. This will make his ult become something he has to think about. Could even make it to where if he hits an enemy with his ult the exhaust mode isn't applied. OR just do like they had to with the towers. When he dies he does zero damage to anything but enemy champions. That way you just instant kill him and he loses farm.
Zwag, let me send you a build to just get your opinion onn
The ww didnt take w level 2 that probably why you won right zwag were not marked but he were under half hp
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It's truly unfortunate I watched this
Day 58 of asking for neeko jungle!!!!
gg
Man youre playing vs npc fr
salad
man you playing ornn, why you reset this often just to lose cs
You need to play more trolling Talon with lethality and crit
Day 295
Hey Zwag, could you try diana tank? Pls
lol bro always cries about his team when he sucks ass
karma adc pwease :3
No way i just realized Ornn is duel wielding hammers
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Ryze adc please :3
Jhin is cringes champ in league
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