7:33 Well it appears we accidentally used a background image of Auschwitz here. That sucks. The image is from stock photo site "Pexels" under the search term "prison" & only labelled as "Restricting wire fence in industrial district". It does NOT clearly indicate what it really is. Naturally, we're angry to have been deceived like this and have reported this issue to the stock photo website for being grossly misleading with something so extremely sensitive.
The "previously on" used in Clone wars was quite interesting, they provided context for the episode by showing what happened "off screen" between last episode and the one you are watching.
it’s supposed to mirror war reels from WWII! so it fits TCW perfectly, because it’s like the audience are citizens of the republic watching updates of the war
My favorite thing about the Legend of Korra recap is that, in one episode, the announcer character is injured in a terrorist attack and his narration is absent in the following episode-the recap is replaced with a recording of a political speech describing the events. To reiterate, the show put the narrator himself in the hospital and therefore he was unable to announce the episode due to the show's continuity.
you have no idea how happy it makes me that someone feels the same pain of having to begrudgingly fast forward every fucking episode of avatar the last airbender due to watching it via the dvd set
@@Ceaugo Thank you so much. I decided to upload the pilot by stitching together better clips from the promo because the original upload by Gooberlol ,one had comments disabled and two was in very very low quality. I do my best for the worm my Autistic brain is obsessed with, And I won't shy away on calling out corporate bull
Meanwhile, a videogame also has a Previously On. If you haven't played Return to Monkey Island for a few days, you get an (optional) reminder of where you're at in the story, through the main character recounting that very story to someone else. So no matter how long you put the game down for, you can carry on without being completely in the dark.
I think the Sonic Adventure games had something like that too. The Characters narrating what just recently happened (and revealing things that weren't in the cutscenes)
So the "you're probably wondering how I got here" trope is called in medias res. It's latin for in the midst of things and done right can be a really good intro like in the horror movie "triangle"
While in the Sonic film it feels completely not necessary. I would like a version without it. Just cut out the first but, and cut out that break in the middle. Maybe it will work.
Avatar is the first culprit I think of when it comes to Recap Spoilers. Namely, when a one-off character from Season 1 returns in Season 2. Worst of all, the people who met said character previously aren't even around when they show up - so it doesn't even matter narratively if the audience knew about their first meeting!
I think the worst case is in the finale of season 2: The crossroads of destiny, when the previously on includes the scene of Roku informing aang that being killed while in the avatar state will forever break the reincarnation cycle. There are others, but ATLA as a whole isnt bad with it.
My favorite is when me and my partner were watching sonic x, and (spoiler alert) in the recap it showed shadow, who at this point was meant to be dead, and we both looked at eachother like ‘wow I wonder if shadow will show up this episode’, definitely ruined the surprise, but was pretty funny.
To be fair, the games' continuity has Shadow survive to appear in Sonic Heroes and beyond, and the first half of Season 2 is literally just the Adventure games but Chris is there. So someone who's played the games that were released at the time of the episode could logically deduce that Shadow survived in the X timeline as well.
@@DrRank that’s true! Luckily I was heavily spoiled before the ep came out (I knew about Molly and all that) but still it was funny to pinpoint that ‘oh he’s coming back this ep’
The recap I enjoyed the most thus far was in Samurai Champloo when Jin and Mugen went through Fuu's diary and it was basically recapping their journey up to this point, while you also got to learn a bit more about the characters. Was a nice touch.
The question is, did you make this after the she-hulk episode came out and completed it in a day like a legend? Or was it weirdly convenient she-hulk did a previously on bit mid episode and you had enough time to edit it into this video? I assume the second but I fully believe Eddie could research, write the script and edit the video in a day.
The recap gives away just enough to get you excited without going into full spoilers about what's actually happenig. Knowing a character will be important but not knowing how is almost more exciting IMO
I’ve currently been watching Dexter and Breaking Bad (Dexter has recaps whilst Breaking Bad didn’t on the version I was watching) and I’m not sure how I feel about recaps On the one hand, it’s a useful reminder to what happened in the story but on the other hand, it can spoil what’s about to happen in the episode
The One Piece dvd collection has this really cool feature where you can watch a “marathon mode” of sorts that deletes the recap and intro. I prefer the recap and intro, but it’s nonetheless a REALLY good idea I feel other Blu Ray sets should adopt.
9:48 - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure has loads of minor spoilers in it's opening sequences, but it cleverly hides them in the background and are really subtle that you don't really notice until rewatching through it in detail after you know what to look for.
Most of the time the Jojo spoilers are fine, but IIRC one of the Part 5 OPs spoiled way too much, like Trish's stand and Giorno stabbing himself with the arrow
"Now this is a story all about how a baby was born and it caused a little stir The children grew, learned fabulous secret powers Water, Wind and Me!" Water, Wind, and Me is a TV show or web cartoon I'd watch definitely
On Dynasty and Falcon Crest they did: ‘Last week..’ and then ‘…and TONIGHT..!’ with spoilers for the episode iitself. Me and my brother still quote it!
Great video! A think I love is when Star Trek DS9 (and ENT to a lesser extent) started doing season-long arcs with very little "previously" segments back in the mid-90s. I don't know how much of that was pioneering at the time but I feel like it wasn't being done much at that time.
A detail I liked in The Legend of Korra's recap is that in S1E7, the narrator is replaced with one of the soon-to-be villains because the announcer was electrocuted during the previous episodes attack.
One of my favorite variations of the 'Spoiler Opening' is the 'Obscure Spoiler Opening', a la Evangelion, where the entire opening sequence is absolutely *chock full* of highly spoileriffic stuff, but none of it makes *any sense at all* until you've already seen that part of the story (and usually a ways past it) anyway. Instead of the opening giving things away, it becomes a sort of unfolding series of little shared moments of context that you feel good about understanding how because you're as far into the story as you are, and on rewatch can serve to hype you up to see those important moments again in context. :)
I always used to read the last page of a book before I started reading it and that made me enjoy it so much more for some reason. I’m glad to see I’m not the only one, and that this is actually a thing.
I actually had a few friends like that. They would always read the last page of a book to see if they liked it and wanted to read the story opposed to reading the first page like a lot of people do. I used to think it was really weird but I kinda understand it now. When you read it the first time it probably won’t make much sense since you don’t know the context of the book but when you reach it the second time it will finally make sense so it’s not too much of a spoiler. If it was a big book you’d probably forget the ending by the time you got to it anyway so it would still be a surprise. I remember at school one time we did an assignment where we watched the first episode of a show and then the last episode and compared it. We watched the Big Bang theory but I was away when they watched the first episode so only watched the last episode. I needed up watching the whole show after that and by the time I reached the last episode I had completely forgotten what happened in it. It’s kinda ironic that I thought it was weird how my friends read the last page of a book because I would always intentionally spoil tv shows and movies for myself because it gave me anxiety not knowing what was about to happen so I would find out the main plot details first so I wasn’t as anxious. And you didn’t know all the intricate details of the plot so there’s still a lot that isn’t spoilt. I guess I probably thought reading the last page of a book weird because a lot of books I’ve read the last page is kinda boring and just full of “they lived happily ever after” stuff.
Funny, I was just thinking this when recently binge watching avatar and being able to predict the plot of the episode just from the “previously on” section.
My favorite inversion of this were the "next week on _Mad Men"_ previews, because the show's crew cut it themselves and went out of their way to avoid giving _any indication whatsoever_ about the next episode. It's just closeups of people reacting and nonindicative lines like "have a seat." And then very occasionally they'd throw in a line that's _extremely_ context-sensitive and sounds ridiculous on its own. It's the funniest shit ever and it's on RUclips. I miss those.
I used to love the way comicbooks did that as a kid. It made the world feel bigger. It made it seem like Spiderman was really off doing things even in a comic featuring Wolverine. It made it all feel interconnected. I didn't mind if I didn't have issue 409 to know where Captain American obtained the space crystal thing. I could fill in the blanks in my head usually.
You mentioned “next time” so I’m going to run with that! The worst next time trailer I have ever seen is Doctor Who Season 1 episode 11 (leading into 12 “Bad Wolf”) it’s all like “who did this? Who could be behind it? Who who who?” Only for the last shot of the trailer being the Darleks.
I would like to throw in an addition to your "spoiler story" concept. I'm a huge Shakespeare buff, and while I personally don't like it as much as his other works, his most famous and renowned play, Romeo and Juliet begins with a sonnet literally telling the audience the plot of the show. And yet the words, the plot, and the play as a whole is so beautiful that you can't help but appreciate it even more knowing the horror and irony of what's to come. This is added to even more by the 4 centuries since he was writing and alive. Nobody goes into a shakespeare play anymore wondering what it'll be about. Odds are, if you're choosing to watch it, you already at least have an idea of what happens. You know whether it's a comedy, or a tragedy. And yet every time we see one, there's something new we notice, something new that makes it worth watching, something beautiful. This, I believe is at the core of why spoiler stories arent bad. If a story is good enough throughout that knowing the ending doesnt change anything, just helps you pay attention without needing to wonder about the ending, it means it was worthwhile to watch. If a movie just has a dramatic twist ending and knowing that ending before watching would ruin every other part of that movie for you, then with a few exceptions (6th Sense, maybe the Jordan Peale movies, and probably Hot Fuzz, you can probably think of a few), it probably should've had more substance in the buildup. That, I think, is where ending spoilers are bad. In movies in which the ending is the only purpose of the movie, and it prioritises the buildup to that ending over entertainment. Again, as I listed a few earlier, there are movies where ending spoilers can diminish the movie even if the ending isnt the only good part, but still...
I mean, yea, it's a Tragedy taken from the style of the Greeks. It's not a Grecian Tragedy if you don't already know the fatal flaw that dooms the character. The whole point is that their fatal flaw is unavoidable and will always lead to their doom.
I personally really like the recaps, especially in something like LOST. Even when binging it, there's a ton of plot points and things to keep track of for each character, something that lets me know "these are the plot points to keep in mind for this episode" helps manage my expectations.
Just finished watching Lost recently and I agree. Most of the time, the recaps just remind you where the story has been heading going into an episode; there are still PLENTY of out-of-nowhere reveals that aren't spoiled at all during the "Previously on"
Yeah I think Lost does it nicely, particularly because most episodes focus on one particular character, so a 'previously on' showing a couple of important things from the previous episode or two and a bunch of stuff relevant to whichever character is pretty helpful
Yesterday's episode of She-Hulk lampshaded this SO hard, perfect timing. A character returned who was only very briefly on screen and WASN'T in the Previously On, Jen was like "oh my god, you probably don't even remember who that is" and did a Previously On in the middle of the episode with who that guy was. I can't believe you got it in so quick LOL
I distinctly remember with Buffy's previously on being particularly bad. They would just show an unrelated scene from 2 seasons earlier and you then knew exactly what was coming up
Fascinating video. Any chance of a sequel videos on “next time on…” trailers and how occasionally they can be quite spoiler heavy too? For example, the biggest culprit I can think of guilty of this is Doctor Who, when an episode played a next time segment at the end and straight up spoiled the Daleks return, when perhaps if it wasn’t spoiled the return could have played off better as a genuine surprise.
I genuinely appreciate the episode recaps on The Afterparty. Due to the show's structure of focusing on a different character's perspective in every episode, the recap shows the relevant clues and character moments that remind you within 30 seconds exactly who the character is and what the current episode will focus on. It's ingenious, especially if it's been a while since I've watched and it catches me up right away, instead of me having to watch an ensemble cast and go, "I THINK I remember that person."
I get the spoiler paradox, but personally I prefer to watch stuff (especially mysteries) once knowing nothing, and then again after I've seen the ending so I can appreciate all the clues.
Great idea for a video! A few thoughts related to stuff you discuss: 1. I read a bunch of slice-of-life and romance manga, but in the time between volume releases, I can forget a lot, especially considering I'm reading other manga in the meantime and the numerous character across a lot of these series can look similar with their black and white art and comparable art styles and character designs. And so, I really wish more collected volumes would contain a "previously" or a the very least some mini character bios. 2. As a kid, I really hated when a show would start with a flash-forward to the most chaotic scene. To me, it was just showing something they wanted me to stick around and look forward to, and yet, why should I look forward to something that I've already now seen? The Flintstones was notorious to my brother and I for always starting their episodes this way, and to this day we will still refer to these spoiler intros as "pulling a Flintstones". 3. I've always hated when media has a "next time" segment, and I always skip those. If something is entertaining etc, then I'll come back next time; trying to entice me last minute just seems desperate and is unlikely to sway my decision one way or another.
As someone who easily forgets what happened in shows, I greatly appreciate when shows have recaps at the start when i’m not binge watching episodes. Especially recaps at the start of a new season because a new season can be a whole year after the last one which gives me plenty of time to forget what happened. I have on numerous occasions spent up to an hour reading episode summaries on Google trying to get the important information needed for the next season of a show because there was no recap and I was confused when I started watching it.
Avatar probably had the best version of this format, as it used a rapid fire compilation of essential information from multiple previous episodes to understand the context of the current episode. It gets viewers that missed an episode up to speed, cuts all the fat that comes with rewatching episodes, and lasts no more than 10 seconds.
(7:20) But cartoons in Sweden didn't have ad-breaks, which made a lot of ad-break-jokes that these cartoons made, make no sense. I think they added ad-breaks later (yay, capitalism...) but not when I was growing up with these cartoons.
The Aquabats Super Show did a great spinoff of this gag by mixing in some joke clips that never happened as well as real events from the previous episode
With the spoiler paradox point I would like to point to Columbo. Every episode starts with a little montage of highlights from the episode you’re about to watch, which now a days really helps with trying to find my place again in the series of if I watched it or not. Though Columbo has the odd set up with how we see the crime unfold and watching to see how Columbo solves it.
OTOH, the 'Previously on' for Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode 100 (the final one of Season 5) was just one frame* from every one of the previous 99 episodes. * or a very short snippet - it's been a while since I've seen it.
Can’t believe you mentioned Korra recap episode without mentioning the original series one. Ember Island Players is the best recap episode I’ve ever seen because it shows the events from the fire nations perspective and it’s misunderstood. Also you mentioned the leaked game of thrones s5 finale previously on spoiling a returning character, but in the episode that was a total fake out so that may actually help the episode.
Opening bits that give away the story of the show have grown along with the magic of watchable entertainment. They’re straight-up Shakespearean! It was a thing back in the classic days to begin with a telling of the plot to a play’s audience for the same reason you stated about allowing viewers to get invested in the deets of the story instead of being preoccupied with figuring out the bigger picture. Anyway, great stuff! ✌️
I think one of my favorite previously on thing is in The Amazing World of Gumball episode "The Origins Part 2", where there's a short gag where it shows random clips from the entire series beforehand, then it gives a quick summary of the previous episode
To be fair, it's happening to me too! I got way too into a manga with huge spoilers, and going on twitter was absolutely not good for going in blind, but now I am even more interested in _how_ those story beats are gonna happen (and I can't wait to be emotionally crushed by all of it, lmao)
Something I would be interested in seeing with respect to the spoiler study is the impact on future viewings. Because my main feeling when I first heard of it is that maybe I will enjoy a spoiled movie more if I'm only watching it once, but you only get one chance at an unspoiled viewing experience, and the second watch of an unspoiled movie might be better than either viewing of a spoiled viewing, because whatever makes a spoiled movie better might still be in play, plus the ability to compare/contrast with the unspoiled viewing.
I rather watch it spoiler free the first time, then I can watch it a second time and knowing how it ends. That way I can experience it both ways. If I'm getting told the ending before I watch it the first time, I don't get that first experience.
What a good video!! Love the acknowledgement of the Spoiler Paradox alongside all the positives and negatives of recap segments, it's multifaceted and dense work!
I keep hearing about this study that having the ending spoiled slightly increases the viewer's enjoyment, however the thing that really bothers me about it is that it doesn't take into account that this means that you no longer have no reason to re-watch it, so surely it actually _halves_ the potential enjoyment of texts with well-executed plot twists?
With regards to the "spoiler paradox": Two months back, I read the dark-fantasy/isekai/whodunnit Magical Girl Raising Project: Restart. Having read almost all of the MGRP novels now (which tackle widely differing genres and themes across their 18-volume run), Restart is still my favorite. I could not imagine I would've enjoyed the story as much if I went in knowing the true identity of the "Evil King" and their motive beforehand. ...But I suppose I won't have to wait long to prove that hypothesis. A television adaptation has been announced and is likely gonna come out this coming year, so (unless they change the ending for some reason), I'll be able to see what a spoiled version of the story would've been like, lol.
Normally a TV series shows one episode a week on regular TV. So a recap helps to remind you of what happened in previous episodes. Since there was a sizeable gap between episodes. These days if watching subscription or catchup TV. A previously on isn 't that needed since you can usually do a binge and watch multiple episodes or a whole season in one session.
Honestly the best "Previously on" I've seen was She-Hulk's latest episode, where the main recap doesn't show the Wrecker, but the (intertwining with Jen's ability to break the 4th wall) stops the episode entirely when he show up and demands to make a "Previously on" just to make people remember him
As an ttrpg game master i am a big fan of recaps because it allows me to tell my players what was just a joke one off scene and what was useful to remember because ttrpgs are built off of collective story telling but as game master sometimes i need to make sure people know something isnt going to be important
As far as having the ending spoiled independently goes, whenever the Avengers Endgame 'I'm not feeling so good memes' were floating around, I had not seen the movie. But when I did finally watch it, I knew Parker dying was coming. However, what I didn't know was how he delivers the line, how he grapples onto Tony that one last time. All of the acting from Holland that the memes had excluded made it a far more powerful scene than I expected.
I've seen some shows get creative with their "last time on's". For example i dont recall the title at the moment vut i remembwr this one show d8dnt necesarily start the episode by saying last time on. But they may start with what happened ending the last time, perhaps from another characters specific perspective or otherwise giving more contedt to what occoured afterwards/why.
The "previously on..." makes a lot of sense in Total Drama because the show is a fictional elimination reality TV show and we're encouraged to watch every single episode possible to see if one of our favorites is going to get eliminated or make us wonder how a certain character managed to get pass the elimination ceremony. And at the time, steaming services or catch up TV websites weren't a thing and so, people couldn't watch every episode everyday because homework, going to a family event or party, chores and other things school students deal with got in the way, so, if they end up missing an episode, they can see a recap of the latest episode they missed. And yes, the "previously on..." is a necessary thing for certain reality TV shows.
2:09 funny that you show dhmis in the montage of "intros that tell you everything you need to know about the show" considering the only thing this intro tells you is "three people exist."
You've got to give Bays & Thomas credit for basically making the recap redundant by having Future Ted say "Hey kids, remember that story I told you about XXXXX? Well, that's going to become important to this story, so make sure you remember that."
11:52 Oh gosh, don't even get me started on the "next time" immediately following Vegeta's sacrifice. Also, TV stations playing episodes out of order is annoying, and I'm glad some modern stations have given up the practice.
9:48 JoJo's Bizarre adventure Ops *looking away* Although that being said any major plot elements were hidden away with speedy visuals that wouldn't give too much away to a first time watcher and having ability reveals introduced in the finale version of the OP.
I noticed a lot of clips of Supernatural's "The Story So Far" segment, which absolutely did spoil the show on occasion, but one episode they actually did it really well. About half of the recap was spent on the last time they faced a dragon: how they knew, how to fight it, etc. But then, midway through the episode, it turns out it WASN'T a dragon, but something else entirely, and the recap was intentionally there to deceive you.
I get the concept of spoilers actually just changing the context of a viewing to suspense rather than surprise but I still fucking loath when I get spoiled. If I want to go back and re-watch something to get that suspense, I can always do that. But you can only watch something unspoiled once. I want both experiences. Assholes online (and badly made trailers/recaps) rob me of half of the potential of a piece of media by taking the first unspoiled viewing away.
This reminds me that one of the most famous Shakespeare plays opens with telling you that Romeo and Juliet will end up dead and how it allows you to spend more time focusing on how they get there
What gets me is when you wait three years for a new series of a TV show, and there's no recap. I can't remember what I watched a month ago, let alone three years ago.
It is also interesting how knowing how an event happens and when can lead into the bomb theory pinned by Hitchcock. The audience knows there is a bomb under a table but the characters don't. The suspense comes from seeing if the characters, by some miracle discover the bomb before it goes off. Titanic is an example of this due to it being based off actual history but also the Order 66 scenes from The Clones Wars season 7 and Jedi: Fallen Order thanks to Revenge of the Sith. We know that Order 66 is coming and we know our main characters survive (in the case of the former that is due to Rebels while the latter is via flaskbacks) but the question is how do they survive. Sometimes knowing the how is more important than the "will they?". And when it happens relative to the story present is also a factor. Will it happen in the heat of the moment like we see in Revenge of the Sith or will it be when our heroes think the day is saved? Catching them completely off guard.
Have got ever watched something and said “It’s a lot better, the second time watching” Well, that’s the same thing. You have more fun watching something when you already know what happens, because you can focus on the other parts and not try to work out the main plot.
Ben 10 did the midway/repeating recap a lot, but the oddest one was in the future AU episode Ken 10, where future Ben gets attacked by someone who looks like Kevin. He shouts “Kevin?”, a dramatic music sting plays, and it zooms in. Then, it cuts to commercial, and when it comes back, the camera zooms back out, the sting plays again, and Ben shouts “Kevin?” with the exact same take as before.
7:33 Well it appears we accidentally used a background image of Auschwitz here. That sucks.
The image is from stock photo site "Pexels" under the search term "prison" & only labelled as "Restricting wire fence in industrial district". It does NOT clearly indicate what it really is.
Naturally, we're angry to have been deceived like this and have reported this issue to the stock photo website for being grossly misleading with something so extremely sensitive.
awkward recontextualization of the scene, but I'm sure everyone is glad you've acknowledged it
Thanks for acknowledging it Eddie i knew it felt uncanny so thank you
That is shocking.
psh who cares, mistakes are common and you're only human :) it's not like you did it on purpose lol (also it's the websites fault anyway lmao)
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The "previously on" used in Clone wars was quite interesting, they provided context for the episode by showing what happened "off screen" between last episode and the one you are watching.
I liked how Bad Batch continued this, even though it was only in the pilot.
The narrator is almost as iconic as every other character
@@fantasticbirdblue I mean he also plays Admiral Ularen (I think that’s his name)
@@GhostTransit Yularen
it’s supposed to mirror war reels from WWII! so it fits TCW perfectly, because it’s like the audience are citizens of the republic watching updates of the war
My favorite thing about the Legend of Korra recap is that, in one episode, the announcer character is injured in a terrorist attack and his narration is absent in the following episode-the recap is replaced with a recording of a political speech describing the events.
To reiterate, the show put the narrator himself in the hospital and therefore he was unable to announce the episode due to the show's continuity.
That's amazing attention to detail
That's awesome.
you have no idea how happy it makes me that someone feels the same pain of having to begrudgingly fast forward every fucking episode of avatar the last airbender due to watching it via the dvd set
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Yeah I watch it on Netflix so I just get to skip the recap haha
Thank god I have something good to watch. My new puppy is crying and its driving me mad. I guess you could say, he's giving me an Eddache.
Wasn't expecting to bump into an EWJ fan here
@@Ceaugo Thank you for the compliment?
Why is the puppy crying?
@@Ceaugo Thank you so much. I decided to upload the pilot by stitching together better clips from the promo because the original upload by Gooberlol ,one had comments disabled and two was in very very low quality. I do my best for the worm my Autistic brain is obsessed with, And I won't shy away on calling out corporate bull
Maybe take Care of your puppy instead of RUclips 😅
Meanwhile, a videogame also has a Previously On. If you haven't played Return to Monkey Island for a few days, you get an (optional) reminder of where you're at in the story, through the main character recounting that very story to someone else. So no matter how long you put the game down for, you can carry on without being completely in the dark.
I wish more games did that!
I think the Sonic Adventure games had something like that too.
The Characters narrating what just recently happened (and revealing things that weren't in the cutscenes)
Pretty sure Pokémon Fire Red and Leaf Green had a thing where it recapped your last few actions anytime you start the game.
@@bjp4869 same with platinum
So did farcry primal. Everytime you start the game the shamen shows what happens in the story from where you left off
So the "you're probably wondering how I got here" trope is called in medias res. It's latin for in the midst of things and done right can be a really good intro like in the horror movie "triangle"
While in the Sonic film it feels completely not necessary.
I would like a version without it. Just cut out the first but, and cut out that break in the middle. Maybe it will work.
Avatar is the first culprit I think of when it comes to Recap Spoilers. Namely, when a one-off character from Season 1 returns in Season 2. Worst of all, the people who met said character previously aren't even around when they show up - so it doesn't even matter narratively if the audience knew about their first meeting!
I think the worst case is in the finale of season 2: The crossroads of destiny, when the previously on includes the scene of Roku informing aang that being killed while in the avatar state will forever break the reincarnation cycle. There are others, but ATLA as a whole isnt bad with it.
I started watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the first time, and the recap spoils the plot of the episode so often
I really love Hilda's opening sequence, it's cool to watch an episode and find a new character that had been hiding in the opening the entire time
yeah! it's also such a fast sequence you probably won't notice everything at first
My favorite is when me and my partner were watching sonic x, and (spoiler alert) in the recap it showed shadow, who at this point was meant to be dead, and we both looked at eachother like ‘wow I wonder if shadow will show up this episode’, definitely ruined the surprise, but was pretty funny.
To be fair, the games' continuity has Shadow survive to appear in Sonic Heroes and beyond, and the first half of Season 2 is literally just the Adventure games but Chris is there.
So someone who's played the games that were released at the time of the episode could logically deduce that Shadow survived in the X timeline as well.
@@DrRank that’s true! Luckily I was heavily spoiled before the ep came out (I knew about Molly and all that) but still it was funny to pinpoint that ‘oh he’s coming back this ep’
@@lilwoofs Wait, who's Molly?
A ginger girl who was friends with shadow, she was only in sonic x, the third season, and she died fighting the Metarex people.
@@lilwoofs Ah. I'd forgotten about her.
My Mom always goes "We already saw this part!" whenever the recaps happen because she always misses the "Previously On" part for some reason.
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The recap I enjoyed the most thus far was in Samurai Champloo when Jin and Mugen went through Fuu's diary and it was basically recapping their journey up to this point, while you also got to learn a bit more about the characters. Was a nice touch.
The question is, did you make this after the she-hulk episode came out and completed it in a day like a legend? Or was it weirdly convenient she-hulk did a previously on bit mid episode and you had enough time to edit it into this video? I assume the second but I fully believe Eddie could research, write the script and edit the video in a day.
It was absolutely a last minute addition
@@eddache I don’t believe you… I know your secrets…
@@eddache It made it in perfect timing I'm kinda shocked
Eddache, the channel that talks about the topics that no other channel will talk about.
(But topics you've always wanted)
Whenever an Eddache vid comes up, you pause whatever you're watching and engage. Easily one of the best ones to do it.
I really like the recap. They usually fade into the intro and it hypes me up for the episode, even if I’ve just seen the previous one
The recap gives away just enough to get you excited without going into full spoilers about what's actually happenig. Knowing a character will be important but not knowing how is almost more exciting IMO
Can you imagine if stuff like Corrie had to completely recap at the beginning of every episode? Lawks.
I know right
I’ve currently been watching Dexter and Breaking Bad (Dexter has recaps whilst Breaking Bad didn’t on the version I was watching) and I’m not sure how I feel about recaps
On the one hand, it’s a useful reminder to what happened in the story but on the other hand, it can spoil what’s about to happen in the episode
The One Piece dvd collection has this really cool feature where you can watch a “marathon mode” of sorts that deletes the recap and intro. I prefer the recap and intro, but it’s nonetheless a REALLY good idea I feel other Blu Ray sets should adopt.
" It's not even Christmas yet "
company's in the first of November: yes it is
9:48 - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure has loads of minor spoilers in it's opening sequences, but it cleverly hides them in the background and are really subtle that you don't really notice until rewatching through it in detail after you know what to look for.
Most of the time the Jojo spoilers are fine, but IIRC one of the Part 5 OPs spoiled way too much, like Trish's stand and Giorno stabbing himself with the arrow
Can't wait for another of your fantastic videos, Ed!
@Dr.Dingle 🅥 who the fuck are you
"Now this is a story all about how a baby was born and it caused a little stir
The children grew, learned fabulous secret powers
Water, Wind and Me!"
Water, Wind, and Me is a TV show or web cartoon I'd watch definitely
My favourite parody of the recap: That Mitchell and Webb Look's "The Gift Shop Sketch"
On Dynasty and Falcon Crest they did: ‘Last week..’ and then ‘…and TONIGHT..!’ with spoilers for the episode iitself. Me and my brother still quote it!
Great video! A think I love is when Star Trek DS9 (and ENT to a lesser extent) started doing season-long arcs with very little "previously" segments back in the mid-90s. I don't know how much of that was pioneering at the time but I feel like it wasn't being done much at that time.
A detail I liked in The Legend of Korra's recap is that in S1E7, the narrator is replaced with one of the soon-to-be villains because the announcer was electrocuted during the previous episodes attack.
My family frequently say "PREVIOUSLY ON HOMELAND" whenever someone explains where they've been, so I'm glad recaps exist just for that.
One of my favorite variations of the 'Spoiler Opening' is the 'Obscure Spoiler Opening', a la Evangelion, where the entire opening sequence is absolutely *chock full* of highly spoileriffic stuff, but none of it makes *any sense at all* until you've already seen that part of the story (and usually a ways past it) anyway. Instead of the opening giving things away, it becomes a sort of unfolding series of little shared moments of context that you feel good about understanding how because you're as far into the story as you are, and on rewatch can serve to hype you up to see those important moments again in context. :)
Basically, a Jojo Spoiler isn't really a spoiler. It is fun to listen to ''What the fuck?'' And then you see it. ''Oh, it makes sense.''
I always used to read the last page of a book before I started reading it and that made me enjoy it so much more for some reason. I’m glad to see I’m not the only one, and that this is actually a thing.
I actually had a few friends like that. They would always read the last page of a book to see if they liked it and wanted to read the story opposed to reading the first page like a lot of people do. I used to think it was really weird but I kinda understand it now. When you read it the first time it probably won’t make much sense since you don’t know the context of the book but when you reach it the second time it will finally make sense so it’s not too much of a spoiler. If it was a big book you’d probably forget the ending by the time you got to it anyway so it would still be a surprise. I remember at school one time we did an assignment where we watched the first episode of a show and then the last episode and compared it. We watched the Big Bang theory but I was away when they watched the first episode so only watched the last episode. I needed up watching the whole show after that and by the time I reached the last episode I had completely forgotten what happened in it. It’s kinda ironic that I thought it was weird how my friends read the last page of a book because I would always intentionally spoil tv shows and movies for myself because it gave me anxiety not knowing what was about to happen so I would find out the main plot details first so I wasn’t as anxious. And you didn’t know all the intricate details of the plot so there’s still a lot that isn’t spoilt. I guess I probably thought reading the last page of a book weird because a lot of books I’ve read the last page is kinda boring and just full of “they lived happily ever after” stuff.
Once again you've found an amazing topic that few speak about but we all experience. Thanks Eddie!
Funny, I was just thinking this when recently binge watching avatar and being able to predict the plot of the episode just from the “previously on” section.
My favorite inversion of this were the "next week on _Mad Men"_ previews, because the show's crew cut it themselves and went out of their way to avoid giving _any indication whatsoever_ about the next episode. It's just closeups of people reacting and nonindicative lines like "have a seat." And then very occasionally they'd throw in a line that's _extremely_ context-sensitive and sounds ridiculous on its own. It's the funniest shit ever and it's on RUclips. I miss those.
Reminds of "Tonight on Top Gear..." where the descriptions of the episodes get more silly as the show goes on.
I used to love the way comicbooks did that as a kid. It made the world feel bigger. It made it seem like Spiderman was really off doing things even in a comic featuring Wolverine. It made it all feel interconnected. I didn't mind if I didn't have issue 409 to know where Captain American obtained the space crystal thing. I could fill in the blanks in my head usually.
You mentioned “next time” so I’m going to run with that! The worst next time trailer I have ever seen is Doctor Who Season 1 episode 11 (leading into 12 “Bad Wolf”) it’s all like “who did this? Who could be behind it? Who who who?” Only for the last shot of the trailer being the Darleks.
“Water, Wind, and Me”
I would like to throw in an addition to your "spoiler story" concept. I'm a huge Shakespeare buff, and while I personally don't like it as much as his other works, his most famous and renowned play, Romeo and Juliet begins with a sonnet literally telling the audience the plot of the show. And yet the words, the plot, and the play as a whole is so beautiful that you can't help but appreciate it even more knowing the horror and irony of what's to come.
This is added to even more by the 4 centuries since he was writing and alive. Nobody goes into a shakespeare play anymore wondering what it'll be about. Odds are, if you're choosing to watch it, you already at least have an idea of what happens. You know whether it's a comedy, or a tragedy. And yet every time we see one, there's something new we notice, something new that makes it worth watching, something beautiful.
This, I believe is at the core of why spoiler stories arent bad. If a story is good enough throughout that knowing the ending doesnt change anything, just helps you pay attention without needing to wonder about the ending, it means it was worthwhile to watch. If a movie just has a dramatic twist ending and knowing that ending before watching would ruin every other part of that movie for you, then with a few exceptions (6th Sense, maybe the Jordan Peale movies, and probably Hot Fuzz, you can probably think of a few), it probably should've had more substance in the buildup.
That, I think, is where ending spoilers are bad. In movies in which the ending is the only purpose of the movie, and it prioritises the buildup to that ending over entertainment. Again, as I listed a few earlier, there are movies where ending spoilers can diminish the movie even if the ending isnt the only good part, but still...
Agreed.
I mean, yea, it's a Tragedy taken from the style of the Greeks. It's not a Grecian Tragedy if you don't already know the fatal flaw that dooms the character. The whole point is that their fatal flaw is unavoidable and will always lead to their doom.
I personally really like the recaps, especially in something like LOST. Even when binging it, there's a ton of plot points and things to keep track of for each character, something that lets me know "these are the plot points to keep in mind for this episode" helps manage my expectations.
Just finished watching Lost recently and I agree. Most of the time, the recaps just remind you where the story has been heading going into an episode; there are still PLENTY of out-of-nowhere reveals that aren't spoiled at all during the "Previously on"
Yeah I think Lost does it nicely, particularly because most episodes focus on one particular character, so a 'previously on' showing a couple of important things from the previous episode or two and a bunch of stuff relevant to whichever character is pretty helpful
My earliest memory of a "previously on..." was the 90's X-Men cartoon. It was always pretty epic.
Yesterday's episode of She-Hulk lampshaded this SO hard, perfect timing. A character returned who was only very briefly on screen and WASN'T in the Previously On, Jen was like "oh my god, you probably don't even remember who that is" and did a Previously On in the middle of the episode with who that guy was. I can't believe you got it in so quick LOL
2:00 have had this stuck in my brain computer all year.
I still died a little when you did the Buffy reference for Seeing Red. It will forever be too soon.
I distinctly remember with Buffy's previously on being particularly bad. They would just show an unrelated scene from 2 seasons earlier and you then knew exactly what was coming up
Fascinating video. Any chance of a sequel videos on “next time on…” trailers and how occasionally they can be quite spoiler heavy too? For example, the biggest culprit I can think of guilty of this is Doctor Who, when an episode played a next time segment at the end and straight up spoiled the Daleks return, when perhaps if it wasn’t spoiled the return could have played off better as a genuine surprise.
I genuinely appreciate the episode recaps on The Afterparty. Due to the show's structure of focusing on a different character's perspective in every episode, the recap shows the relevant clues and character moments that remind you within 30 seconds exactly who the character is and what the current episode will focus on. It's ingenious, especially if it's been a while since I've watched and it catches me up right away, instead of me having to watch an ensemble cast and go, "I THINK I remember that person."
I get the spoiler paradox, but personally I prefer to watch stuff (especially mysteries) once knowing nothing, and then again after I've seen the ending so I can appreciate all the clues.
Another solid video, Eddie! Thanks again for the shoutout and I look forward to your next essay.
NO SPOILERS PLEASE!
Great idea for a video! A few thoughts related to stuff you discuss:
1. I read a bunch of slice-of-life and romance manga, but in the time between volume releases, I can forget a lot, especially considering I'm reading other manga in the meantime and the numerous character across a lot of these series can look similar with their black and white art and comparable art styles and character designs. And so, I really wish more collected volumes would contain a "previously" or a the very least some mini character bios.
2. As a kid, I really hated when a show would start with a flash-forward to the most chaotic scene. To me, it was just showing something they wanted me to stick around and look forward to, and yet, why should I look forward to something that I've already now seen? The Flintstones was notorious to my brother and I for always starting their episodes this way, and to this day we will still refer to these spoiler intros as "pulling a Flintstones".
3. I've always hated when media has a "next time" segment, and I always skip those. If something is entertaining etc, then I'll come back next time; trying to entice me last minute just seems desperate and is unlikely to sway my decision one way or another.
I love the Korra recap it's just nice
As someone who easily forgets what happened in shows, I greatly appreciate when shows have recaps at the start when i’m not binge watching episodes. Especially recaps at the start of a new season because a new season can be a whole year after the last one which gives me plenty of time to forget what happened. I have on numerous occasions spent up to an hour reading episode summaries on Google trying to get the important information needed for the next season of a show because there was no recap and I was confused when I started watching it.
Avatar probably had the best version of this format, as it used a rapid fire compilation of essential information from multiple previous episodes to understand the context of the current episode. It gets viewers that missed an episode up to speed, cuts all the fat that comes with rewatching episodes, and lasts no more than 10 seconds.
Eddache: it's not even Christmas yet!
Right? He should have posted the video tomorrow and then it would be time to celebrate the holidays
(7:20) But cartoons in Sweden didn't have ad-breaks, which made a lot of ad-break-jokes that these cartoons made, make no sense. I think they added ad-breaks later (yay, capitalism...) but not when I was growing up with these cartoons.
Is it weirdly ironic or just a coincidence that I came back to watch this during the run-up to Christmas?
No
The Aquabats Super Show did a great spinoff of this gag by mixing in some joke clips that never happened as well as real events from the previous episode
With the spoiler paradox point I would like to point to Columbo. Every episode starts with a little montage of highlights from the episode you’re about to watch, which now a days really helps with trying to find my place again in the series of if I watched it or not. Though Columbo has the odd set up with how we see the crime unfold and watching to see how Columbo solves it.
A lot of series during this time period had stuff like this. The A-Team, CHiPs, Magnum P.I., MacGyver, etc.
OTOH, the 'Previously on' for Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode 100 (the final one of Season 5) was just one frame* from every one of the previous 99 episodes.
* or a very short snippet - it's been a while since I've seen it.
Tonight, Eddie plays with Christmas lights, Will Smith tells a story, and the Who plays "Baba O'Riley".
Final space got into the video. I think it's the best of the how I got here as it shows his personality as it builds to the finale of season 1
6:58 yes meg our dog brain griffin is dead
Can you talk about the Lack of Animation of 1959's Cartoons next, Eddache?
Can’t believe you mentioned Korra recap episode without mentioning the original series one. Ember Island Players is the best recap episode I’ve ever seen because it shows the events from the fire nations perspective and it’s misunderstood. Also you mentioned the leaked game of thrones s5 finale previously on spoiling a returning character, but in the episode that was a total fake out so that may actually help the episode.
Opening bits that give away the story of the show have grown along with the magic of watchable entertainment. They’re straight-up Shakespearean! It was a thing back in the classic days to begin with a telling of the plot to a play’s audience for the same reason you stated about allowing viewers to get invested in the deets of the story instead of being preoccupied with figuring out the bigger picture. Anyway, great stuff! ✌️
The recap legend of korra episode reminds me of what total drama did for it's second season.
Interesting
It's a small detail but it warmed my heart to see Hilda getting a reference ☺️
Perfect timing I was just getting out of things to watch!!
I think one of my favorite previously on thing is in The Amazing World of Gumball episode "The Origins Part 2", where there's a short gag where it shows random clips from the entire series beforehand, then it gives a quick summary of the previous episode
To be fair, it's happening to me too! I got way too into a manga with huge spoilers, and going on twitter was absolutely not good for going in blind, but now I am even more interested in _how_ those story beats are gonna happen (and I can't wait to be emotionally crushed by all of it, lmao)
Something I would be interested in seeing with respect to the spoiler study is the impact on future viewings. Because my main feeling when I first heard of it is that maybe I will enjoy a spoiled movie more if I'm only watching it once, but you only get one chance at an unspoiled viewing experience, and the second watch of an unspoiled movie might be better than either viewing of a spoiled viewing, because whatever makes a spoiled movie better might still be in play, plus the ability to compare/contrast with the unspoiled viewing.
I rather watch it spoiler free the first time, then I can watch it a second time and knowing how it ends. That way I can experience it both ways.
If I'm getting told the ending before I watch it the first time, I don't get that first experience.
What a good video!! Love the acknowledgement of the Spoiler Paradox alongside all the positives and negatives of recap segments, it's multifaceted and dense work!
I keep hearing about this study that having the ending spoiled slightly increases the viewer's enjoyment, however the thing that really bothers me about it is that it doesn't take into account that this means that you no longer have no reason to re-watch it, so surely it actually _halves_ the potential enjoyment of texts with well-executed plot twists?
With regards to the "spoiler paradox":
Two months back, I read the dark-fantasy/isekai/whodunnit Magical Girl Raising Project: Restart. Having read almost all of the MGRP novels now (which tackle widely differing genres and themes across their 18-volume run), Restart is still my favorite. I could not imagine I would've enjoyed the story as much if I went in knowing the true identity of the "Evil King" and their motive beforehand.
...But I suppose I won't have to wait long to prove that hypothesis. A television adaptation has been announced and is likely gonna come out this coming year, so (unless they change the ending for some reason), I'll be able to see what a spoiled version of the story would've been like, lol.
Normally a TV series shows one episode a week on regular TV. So a recap helps to remind you of what happened in previous episodes. Since there was a sizeable gap between episodes. These days if watching subscription or catchup TV. A previously on isn 't that needed since you can usually do a binge and watch multiple episodes or a whole season in one session.
I never thought i see a final space clip on this video that's awesome as a FS fan myself
Honestly the best "Previously on" I've seen was She-Hulk's latest episode, where the main recap doesn't show the Wrecker, but the (intertwining with Jen's ability to break the 4th wall) stops the episode entirely when he show up and demands to make a "Previously on" just to make people remember him
Thunderbirds (the 60's puppet show) is also a good example of "What's coming up on today's episode"
I definitely appreciate the acknowledgement of The Beverly Hillbillies
As an ttrpg game master i am a big fan of recaps because it allows me to tell my players what was just a joke one off scene and what was useful to remember because ttrpgs are built off of collective story telling but as game master sometimes i need to make sure people know something isnt going to be important
As far as having the ending spoiled independently goes, whenever the Avengers Endgame 'I'm not feeling so good memes' were floating around, I had not seen the movie. But when I did finally watch it, I knew Parker dying was coming. However, what I didn't know was how he delivers the line, how he grapples onto Tony that one last time. All of the acting from Holland that the memes had excluded made it a far more powerful scene than I expected.
I've seen some shows get creative with their "last time on's".
For example i dont recall the title at the moment vut i remembwr this one show d8dnt necesarily start the episode by saying last time on. But they may start with what happened ending the last time, perhaps from another characters specific perspective or otherwise giving more contedt to what occoured afterwards/why.
The "previously on..." makes a lot of sense in Total Drama because the show is a fictional elimination reality TV show and we're encouraged to watch every single episode possible to see if one of our favorites is going to get eliminated or make us wonder how a certain character managed to get pass the elimination ceremony. And at the time, steaming services or catch up TV websites weren't a thing and so, people couldn't watch every episode everyday because homework, going to a family event or party, chores and other things school students deal with got in the way, so, if they end up missing an episode, they can see a recap of the latest episode they missed. And yes, the "previously on..." is a necessary thing for certain reality TV shows.
2:09 funny that you show dhmis in the montage of "intros that tell you everything you need to know about the show" considering the only thing this intro tells you is "three people exist."
I mean, it does tell you everything you need to know. There's three of them. What other questions could you possibly have?
You've got to give Bays & Thomas credit for basically making the recap redundant by having Future Ted say "Hey kids, remember that story I told you about XXXXX? Well, that's going to become important to this story, so make sure you remember that."
11:52 Oh gosh, don't even get me started on the "next time" immediately following Vegeta's sacrifice.
Also, TV stations playing episodes out of order is annoying, and I'm glad some modern stations have given up the practice.
9:48 JoJo's Bizarre adventure Ops *looking away*
Although that being said any major plot elements were hidden away with speedy visuals that wouldn't give too much away to a first time watcher and having ability reveals introduced in the finale version of the OP.
Ha, love that smash cut of Tara's death
I noticed a lot of clips of Supernatural's "The Story So Far" segment, which absolutely did spoil the show on occasion, but one episode they actually did it really well. About half of the recap was spent on the last time they faced a dragon: how they knew, how to fight it, etc. But then, midway through the episode, it turns out it WASN'T a dragon, but something else entirely, and the recap was intentionally there to deceive you.
I get the concept of spoilers actually just changing the context of a viewing to suspense rather than surprise but I still fucking loath when I get spoiled. If I want to go back and re-watch something to get that suspense, I can always do that. But you can only watch something unspoiled once. I want both experiences. Assholes online (and badly made trailers/recaps) rob me of half of the potential of a piece of media by taking the first unspoiled viewing away.
This reminds me that one of the most famous Shakespeare plays opens with telling you that Romeo and Juliet will end up dead and how it allows you to spend more time focusing on how they get there
This episode made me watch the last episode so thank you for that
Previously on my life....
I went to work.
Now...
I'm going to work again.
What gets me is when you wait three years for a new series of a TV show, and there's no recap.
I can't remember what I watched a month ago, let alone three years ago.
It is also interesting how knowing how an event happens and when can lead into the bomb theory pinned by Hitchcock. The audience knows there is a bomb under a table but the characters don't. The suspense comes from seeing if the characters, by some miracle discover the bomb before it goes off. Titanic is an example of this due to it being based off actual history but also the Order 66 scenes from The Clones Wars season 7 and Jedi: Fallen Order thanks to Revenge of the Sith. We know that Order 66 is coming and we know our main characters survive (in the case of the former that is due to Rebels while the latter is via flaskbacks) but the question is how do they survive. Sometimes knowing the how is more important than the "will they?". And when it happens relative to the story present is also a factor. Will it happen in the heat of the moment like we see in Revenge of the Sith or will it be when our heroes think the day is saved? Catching them completely off guard.
One of my favorite "begins with the character in dire situations" is the Uncharted movie. And uncharted 2, now that I think about it.
Have got ever watched something and said
“It’s a lot better, the second time watching”
Well, that’s the same thing. You have more fun watching something when you already know what happens, because you can focus on the other parts and not try to work out the main plot.
Ben 10 did the midway/repeating recap a lot, but the oddest one was in the future AU episode Ken 10, where future Ben gets attacked by someone who looks like Kevin. He shouts “Kevin?”, a dramatic music sting plays, and it zooms in. Then, it cuts to commercial, and when it comes back, the camera zooms back out, the sting plays again, and Ben shouts “Kevin?” with the exact same take as before.
honestly, I'd just forget about the whole entire recap or yep-thats-me situation and get surprised by the plot twist anyway