My TOP HUNTING ARROWS for 2023
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- My TOP HUNTING ARROWS for 2023 - We are outlining our top 3 or 4 arrow builds from the last couple of years and their components! #elkshape #abt
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Dan, I feel like I speak for a lot of tinkerers when I say you absolutely NEED to give sevr’s a shot. Penetration is crazy and the mechanism is mechanically sound. We have identical setups when it comes to bows and arrows except you using rip tko’s and I use vap tko’s (same components) and I’m only shooting 67lbs. That being said I dropped a mule deer from 76yds last year with the ti 1.5 from sevr and found him very easily due to the blood trail looking like someone poured a 1 gallon paint can on the ground for 30 yds. Extremely happy with them!
Keep tinkering,
Cheers boys!
I’m a chronic tinkerer but I quit when I got hold of rip tko vip and put 200g maasais and samurai on the front with the half out sleeves. It was just magic, it had the juice. I can shoot both heads and fields interchangeably as long as I spin them. it’s friggin bananas.
My arrows this year are Rip XV, iron will insert/collars ( not set on broadhead yet), tac 2.75 vanes max helical left, 497gr, and 18% foc. They come out of my sx80 31" draw at 310 fps!
One of the best slogans that I have heard this year, "Confidence is not purchased, confidence is earned"!
RIP's are my go-to for years now! They are super tough and really consistent.
Awesome video Dan, always love the comment. Last year i ran the Rip TKO 250 spine with victory ss shock insert, 100gr alick trick viper trick, tac 2.25 vanes 3 degree left, total weight of 453 gr, with 16.25 foc, shooting a mathews vxr 31.5. For 2023 i decided to go with the standard Rips, 50 gr shok TL 204 aluminum insert, 100 gr magnus buzz cut for fixed, 100 gr sevr 1.75 for mechanical, tac 2.25 vanes, 3 degree left, final weight of 438 gr with 15.5 foc, out of my bowtec ss34.
Man, arrow and broad head choice can be a deep rabbit hole.
A few years ago I bought 5mm shafts from every company that sold them for testing. Wound up going with RIP TKO because that got me right on point with the total weight and FOC I wanted.
Then I moved to my 3D set up. This is where the problem is. I went with a standard size shaft, low pro vanes and glue in target points. Those arrows fly so much better in a cross wind. The size difference between a .246 and .204 is so negligible. It’s hardly noticeable. The vanes and the broadhead are what’s catching the wind. Not the shaft.
I’ve got 5 dozen of those TKO’s and I’m about to change to a full diameter (6.5mm .246) shaft. I’m finding they just fly better. Counter intuitive but it’s proving true on the range.
Added benefit of having the insert buried all the way in the shaft instead of sticking out like some weird mini baseball bat can’t be ignored either.
I'm shooting 6mm arrows and they fly so good.
Dan, I would love to see a video with content on salvaging components from broken arrows. I have hit inserts and impact collars epoxied to old broken shafts and I refuse to throw the components away. There must be a way to salvage the components and remove the carbon. Tips or help would be dope!!! Cheers to you and the team!
Put them in boiling water,screw a blunt broad head and wear a glove and twist them out sometimes it will take a couple of go's, I use the brass HIT brass inserts and there's no way I'm throwing them out.
@@tonyallen8626 thanks a bunch! No way I’m throwing those parts out without a fight! Ethics and Iron Will both say they don’t have an official way to release them, could be room for some good video content if someone figures out how!
@@HUNTRGATHR it works, I make sure it's deep enough so that the hit insert is about inch under the boiling water, I screw a broad head on so I've got something to twist, you need a glove or a rag both for the broad head and the arrow because it's going to be hot, grip the arrow round about were the insert is, I'll leave it boil for 10 minutes or so, hot melt glues are the easiest then the 2 part epoxy are a bit harder, I'll normal have them out after about 3 go's
@@tonyallen8626 hey man, managed to recoup my parts! Thanks for the heads up!
Wow I got px10 parallel pro because of you, iron will because of you, elk shape vanes because of you. can’t wait to try these. Hopefully one day before I’m gone. I’ll get an elk! I’m a newbie so I doubt it but we’ll see.
You nailed it on the head, having confidence. There are some many options on the market today that there isn't "one best option." You need to choose what works for you.
Great video Dan! Keep up the great work. We love how detailed you get.
My 2023 arrow setup:
TAC 2.25 driver vanes, 3 degree helical to the left, 3 fletch. Easton hit insert x 2. Easton injexion 4mm arrows 330 spine, sevr 100 gr deep six 1.5 broadheads. Nocturnal lighted nocks.
Mule deer, whitetail, elk, bear and moose is the plan. Little worried about moose with the mechanical.
Thanks 🙏 for doing all this extensive work and bringing us along and sharing with us. All of those options look extremely deadly especially when used by a good shooter like yourself.
Since I don’t have the time or money 💵 for extensive tinkering like I would like to do I will just go with what I switched to last year. The Victory RIP TKO Gamers 300 spine with its SHOK system, 100 grain G5 Montec M3s (I want to get the new 125s), along with the 100 grain Slick Trick Assailant hybrid head that I bought for a turkey 🦃 deer 🦌 combo head that I sadly didn’t get to use this spring for turkey 🦃, and DCA Custom Super Sabres with a possibility to try some max stealth 🥷 vanes. 😃🏹🦌
Eating 3/4 of a lb of elk burger while I watch. Good stuff. Muzzy 90 grain, Kinetic Pierce Platinum Goldtip 300’s. Been my goto since they came out.
I'm using a Victory 300 spine Vap TKO at 29 inches with a 50 grain inside outsert with a 100 grain Montec fixed blade with three degree left helical AAE Max stealth three vane set up with a four inch Bohning wrap and a Nocturnal lighted nock and I'm just over 530 grains total weight shooting a PSE Fortis 33 set at 30 inch draw and 71 pounds draw weight at 80% let off . I'm getting full pass throughs without any issues. I even blew through a bucks shoulder blade at thirty four yards again with full pass through . The arrow system I'm using is super accurate and hits exactly the same spot as a field point . My only gripe is it is a very expensive set up 🤑! I've been bow hunting since I was 14 years old and I'm 50 now and I can't believe how expensive the cost of arrows and broadheads have gotten. I guestimate my hunting arrows cost about $60.00 a piece so I make sure those shots count 😳. Best of luck to everyone out there this coming season 🙏
Whitetail and Black Bear in the Northeast so I saved a bundle by sticking to standard diameter arrows as all my shots where I hunt will be 30 and in. I am running 300 spine Victory Vorce elites with 60 grain stainless top hat inserts and 100 grain Magnus Black Hornets up front and for right helical blazers in the rear. 468 grain total.
Thanks for the info! I just finished my Rip TKO build tonight, which will land around 460gr. It will be running the 125gr micro hades after seeing many good reviews and results with it, which I ended up getting through the elkshape store, as Lancaster archery was out of them.
Sounds great!
I’m trying the iron will hybrid hunters. Talked to iron will bill over the weekend and he highly recommended them. Talked to another couple guys and they said they were extremely quiet. Might try them out!!
That guy is great, I wish I needed more broadheads.
Good video, clear/concise. I didn’t skip through at all like I usually do👌
Dan never disappoints ❤
Webb left Tim Conner left Video Quality dropped sooooooo maybe he disappointed some
in general he is a disappointment
@@lisawood2031then why are you here if he disappoints?
This year I’m running Valkyrie Reign 300 spine 29” with 200 grain Viking solid heads and center pin sleeves and four Bohning heat vanes and a Nocturnal nock for 517 grains and 18%FOC. They go 279 FPS from my Mathews Phase 4 29 set at 29.5” 71 lb draw. I also have a similar Iron Will set up but like these better.
Probably some of the best advice I've heard.
Awesome arrows ! I am shooting Easton FMJ with Blazers and Micro Hades 100 grains . Nothing fancy with weight up front . Fletchings are left offset . Glad you noted Gas strings on Mathew’s phase 4 spins left because my Bowtech does same thing and I am waiting on my new Mathew’s phase 4 . Thanks
odd question but what nocks do you run? I have gas strings on my bow and some nocks i’ve tried and too tight on the serving
Thank you great information God's Blessings on all your adventures
Awesome Dan! I’m running RIP XV’s 300 elite cut to 29” with podium titanium insert, 2.75 tac vanes, 3 fletch to the left, lighted nock and topped off with a 125g single bevel VPA, total weight 425g
I have had good luck the last 2 years with the Rip TKO 300, shok 75 gr ss insert, shooting the afflictor EXT 200 gr. total weight 570gr with a 20% foc. I hunt whitetails in the big woods of Pa. so usually a 40 yards max shot.
Thoughts on hybrid heads like evolution hyde heads
Tinkering with RIP TKO 300's @ 27", Podium titanium inserts, either Iron Will S125, or Micro Hades 3 blade 125's, Halo lighted nocks. Vanes I'm experimenting with are Iron Will hybrid hunters, Super Sabres, and AAE hybrids. TAW's range from 456 to 483.
Love I’m a learning thanks 🙏🏽
Running Killin Stix micro lts with Easton titanium half outs with both sevr 1.5 and muzzy ones also shoot the tac driver 2.25
For 2023 I'm sticking with the same arrows as 2022...GT Quantum 300, SS insert 75gr, the standard Quantum outset over that and 100gr tip, 4-fletch q2i fx-2 2.1" finished weight of 434gr. Fly great out of my rx7!
Great segment dan,Dan, do more of these
Great video Dan. I'm shooting 27 in Easton Axis match 5mm with 4 aae 2.3 vanes hit inserts 150gr Oz cut @16.8 foc total 456,there great out to 70 yards.
You need to do a review on the exodus MMT and NIS arrows
RIP TKOs are money. Love em! Price is right and i really like the low GPI. I run the 250s at 29" carbon to carbon and the low gpi lets you load up the front weight and still keep overall weight down and a great FOC. Money!!
Easton access 3 hundreds with 75 grain insert. I usually run a 100 grain Broadhead. This setup has been tried and true for me why change.
Running a rip tko this year. 200 grains up front at 475 grains shooting about 282. Really loving the trajectory and hits like a hammer. Ironwill single bevel. Could say I copied you😂. Learned everything I know about arrow systems from yall think y’all.
Dan your arrow setups are fantastic. I got new arrows Vap TKO and use Iron Will 50 and 75 grain inserts with 25 grain collars. I shoot out to 50 yards so I have a 4 fletch with Tac Driver 2.25" vanes
Looks like me and my 4mm FMJs are behind the times as usual haha
Great video! I’m shooting Sirius Apollo, Iron Will HIT inserts and collars (titanium), 175 grain Tooth of the Arrow broadheads, and Bohning Heat vanes (4 fletch), this year. Should do the trick on Oklahoma whitetails.
Hey Dan! Great video! Oh you wanted info on our arrows?
Well, this year it's a GT Velocity XT, 30", 300 spine with standard insert plus 10 grain back weight, and GT nock, Swhacker 261. 435 grains. It's only 9.8 FOC, but every one is consistently hitting the target straight in from 20 to 60 yds. Coming off the SS34 with 29.5" draw and 60lb, these Hybrid 26's with high helical thanks to EZ Fletch are taking a lot of air right off the bow to start spinning immediately, then screw fast right to the target without lost velocity. Josh is right about helical. Going for centering a double lung shot. I came up with the same arrow weight as you did, and was surprised by your video. It has the most weight I could use while tracking reasonably flat in the pins and without accelerated drop rate out through 60yd.. Last year, I had a 15 yard opportunity that I probably could have clubbed with a heavy stick. Multi-season deer tag + elk + bear. Mountain jungle hunting in Western WA.
By next year, I'll need a new set of arrows, and will probably go to RIP XV.
- Randy, Puyallup
Thanks for showing some good options
So I actually personally just ordered a dozen pro comp 300 titanium half outs and the max hunter fletchings and I am very excited to shoot those this year as I have been shooting the Easton long ranges for the past two years and I enjoyed those for a while but both setups are really hard to beat 😎🤟
Rip tko, 70gr airstirke insert, 10gr iron will collars, 125gr iron will single bevel(left), and I really wanna try the dca super sabre but I may just settle with the max stealth if I can't find a 2-3⁰ off set jig in the next week.
Love your content! I put you up there with whitetail deer master bill winke. You have become by far my favorite person for elk hunting. I just may have missed it but I would love to see you do a video on the tactics you use in the morning hunts vs the evening hunts, beside just the obvious thermo’s. Amazing content I really think it will help me on my 2023 elk trip this year!
Well, I will give you a tip based on what you said, don't split your hunts into morning vs evening. Hunt all day. I run into just as many if not more elk mid-afternoon as I do in the morning. You will be doing more glassing and still hunting through thick timber/ bedding areas depending on where you are but if you cover ground and watch your wind The afternoon Shouldn't be overlooked!
For this year so far I'm running the VAP TKO fletched with the grim reaper hades pro 3 blade. I also got the grim reaper whitetail pro expandable have not tested that out yet. So it's currently a toss up between the fixed or the mechanical.
the way your string is twisted will affect the way your arrow spins in the first several feet or yards. if you have 2 different strings one twisted clockwise the other counter clockwise you can test it with bare shaft.
Goood stuff man. Always looking forward to your vids 👍🏾👍🏾
Your ready good luck this year .
Did you experience different results by bend testing vs RAM spine testing?
For me it's Victory VAP TKO Elite 4mm with their 75 grain SHOK half out inserts with the stainless steel post/shank. If you like .204 diameter, Victory's RIP TKO Elite is great.
My elk arrows Easton Axis 4mm 300sp w/ Ti halfout. 28.5”C2C. 4x AAE Max Stealth or TAC(still testing) QAD Exodus. 475gr 12.5%FOC with AAE. 460gr with TAC 14.9%
Hoyt RX4 Ultra 72# 29.5” DL. Didn’t chrono yet. Hoping for 275-295fps
Have any feed back with the TAC’s? I recently switched from Sevr’s w/four fletch max hybrids to QAD Exodus TAC 2.75’s and I’m stacking arrows at 40 (mostly whitetail so I’m not shooting anything beyond 40). I keep going back and forth on a four fletch for fixed but I’m sick of building arrows 🤣🤣🤣
You mentioned you may run a 4 fletch if you were shooting a mechanical. Im curious why and whats your theory on that? Seems most 4 fletch guys are shooting heavy arrows more times than not. Im interested. Thanks!
Victory 300 Gamer.
Has never failed me.
Solid arrow.
Great info, thanks!
🎉 wake up babe new elkshape vid with dan just dropped
Rip Ss 300 spine 30” with Standard 50gr shok tl 10GR back weights and rage trypans for whitetail is my 2023 arrow set up. Using hot melt aswell cause I may want to upgrade outsert…. Man I wish we had Elk in New England!!
Running the gt black label quantums with the Easton 75gn hit. 445 total with 190 up front 😮
Can you show how you spine index the PROCOMP?
Using the VAP SS’s 300 spine, with the stock components (I know I need to upgrade that part), AAE Hybrid vanes, and Kudu 150 grain broadheads but thinking of switching to the Annihilator 125 XL broadheads to get a better hole
I find the sevr best for flight and long distance,
what do you think of the Easton xv shafts?
We all know you are running those boujie Pro Comps… I am too 😂
Nice man good looking setups, I’m doing a rip tko with dca super sabres 2.0 9:04 and ethics 100gr ss hit and iron will field points and single bevels with 10gr collars , Great video the tinkering has been awesome to watch I am very much a tinkerer and this is my first year building my own arrow just tested first shots yesterday and it is excellent already over the ore built I’ve used.
Curious why you would do a 4 fletch if you were shooting mechanicals?
Axis 260 , 75 grain inserts, 100 gr rage
Dan are u doing a video on the 1k arrows
i'm simply no 4mm fan ,I believe the flanged 4mm to 5mm section presents a weak spot. 5mm is where I go and strangely enough, they match right up to the ferrule of a broadhead I feel making the whole arrow much stronger all around. The 1mm diameter difference isn't going to make a pile of beans of penetration difference when you use 80 pounds because pass thru is a pass thru. I'm not shooting Water Buffalo everyday, ,just occasionally, lol.
My arrow is a 200 spine 5mm Bandolarrows 3K weave.
Currently testing Valkyrie Blood Eagles on RIP TKOs. Haven't shot past 40 yet, so the jury is still out.
My question is I’m shooting 4mm 300 spine I’m thinking Victory SS all titanium Inserts. Should I just stick with the Easton 4mm???
Is there a reason you prefer GR 3 blades over 4 blades?
In the 80's I used Muzzy 130 4 blades. As time went on. They dropped to 100 grains. 3 or 4 blades.
Every animal is different. However for me personally. It seems the 4 blade put them down faster, and better blood trails.
I purchased some GR micro hades 4 blade. Haven't shot an animal yet.
Time will tell.
Have you noticed the EZfletch having too aggressive helical for the Iron Will Single Bevels? Isn't the EZ Fletch like 5 degrees?
How long are these arrows??
What 4mm insert will work with most broadheads,i got some from iron will but only the fot with the deep six
Have you tried Annihilator broadheads?
Good stuff
I want to start by saying that I've learned a lot from you as I've begun my own DIY journey into arrow builds, bow maintenance etc and i appreciate your channel immensely. Im curious how your RipTKOs are so light? What's your arrow length carbon to carbon? I run almost the exact same setup at 27.25" carbon and carbon. Only difference is I run lighted nocks (20 additional grains), 4 fletched with smaller vanes that equal the same as your 3 fletched within 2 grains. On a scale i'm sitting at 493grains and about 16.5 FOC. It doesn't make sense to me how your arrows are 442. In no way am in trying question your math or abilities, i'm sincerely just curious how you come up 50 grains less without having 23" arrows.
Great as always Dan! I love that your into the high FOC.I just built my arrows! 20% FOC, Easton Sonic 6.0 250s with Ethics Archery insert/collar and Grizzlystik Samurai Overkill 2 blade single bevel. Flying great!
How do you get them so light? I am an Easton axis 5mm, 26.5”, iron will 50grain insert, IW 10grn collar, 100 grain tip, aae nock, 3 fletch aae max stealth and wrap. 488 total weight. They fly 271 fps out of my Hoyt rx-1 at 80lbs.
Is bare shaft best with a broad head for hunting deer?
Thanks Dan! Have you had any issues with the half outs blowing out the ends of the arrows? I switched to a Ethics collar system, and they have been more durable (in my experience) compared to the BE rampage steel half outs.
Was having broadhead flight issues with 3 max stealths. Tested a 4 fletch max hunter to see if that fixed the issue. Probably overkill, but they're flying like darts now. They're loud for sure, but the elk I killed with it didn't seem to notice.
What degree helical did Dan do?
I'm running the Method Archery 325 spine 444.6 total arrow weight, 100gr muzzy trocar's. 🏹 👊🏽💪🏾
Why do Tim’s and Elk Shape’s videos always drop at the same time??? 🧐🧐🧐
Have you ever seen them in the same room together? 🤔🤔🤔 oh wait lmao
Why no VAP TKO? Just wondering because I’m basically running the same thing except with iron wills inserts collars and 100gn head.
Running a scheels vendetta made by victory with 125g thunderhead
What’s the best for whitetail
What would you recommend for a good 3D only arrow ?
I Know it wasn't the subject of this video, and I apologize if I've missed this in another video, but why did you say you might run a four fletch with expandables?
no gold tip Kinetic Kaos?
why the max hunter vs max stealth.. what pros
Dan! What would you suggest for those of us with a 31+ draw? I’m struggling to get a sub 500gr 15% foc running a lighted nock without going extremely light on the arrow.
Thanks!
What is the reason for the tape on the back of the arrows when bare shaft? I’ve never seen that before.
Weight it makes up the difference of the fetching
Hey Brother. I'm looking for some advice on what spine arrows I should get. All the spine charts I've seen only include the tip weight and don't include the insert weight. I've gotten in way better shape and increased my draw weight. I know the GT Hunter XT 340"s I shoot are now under spined a little and I need a stiffer arrow. I'll be building the arrows myself and want to go with a 100gr insert and 125gr broadhead. Should I drop to 250's or will 300's work? Will adding about 85gr make that much of a difference? My arrows will be around 480 - 500 gr. But, I'm a whitetail hunter in Indiana. So, no long distances. My draw length is 30 and my draw weight is 68ish. Different scales show different weights. I really appreciate you doing these videos. Gets my brain working overtime.
have you tried the QAD exodus. every test I've seen shows them with the best penetration
I was wondering if he had tried the exodus against the grim reaper as well.
QAD exodus are amazing! The flight, the penetration!
Why rips 5mm n not vaps?
No valkyrie arrows/broadheads?
Personally I don't like that Easton uses fiberglass inside of thier axis I went to pull an insert one day and a long strand of fiberglass came out
You could always test our arrows.
Great details on those very solid combinations. I've been shooting very close to 440 gr out of high IBO bows for 25 years but have added spine and FOC over the years which added greatly to consistency and long range performance. I mainly shoot whitetails so making over 300 fps and 92 lbs of KE is overkill but the deer don't seem to mind that its an elk arrow taking them down. Thanks for showing how deadly these flat shooting non "adult arrows" work. So tired of the RF, Ashby 600-800gr arrow initiative. Lift weights, draw more, make big KE, and the penetration takes care of itself.
Procomps bend. Long ranges break. Why no VAPS? Rip tko for the win with your setup.
I only run 5mm because I love lighted nocks.
One day you will try to VAP TKO…