Fitzee, I served an apprenticeship as a mechanic rather than a body man and was taught to do a basic patch using gas welding only. So when my Trans am needed both B pillars rebuilding at the joint between the roof/quarter panel I was dreading it especially as I only had access to a Mig, and being in the UK had no other T/As for reference (a lot of the joint had rusted out). Using your tips and tricks (cut and butt, thicker patch metal etc), I have just successfully completed the first part of the joint rebuild. I know in the great scheme of things it isn't like I've rebuilt a car from scratch lol but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to do your videos, they have been invaluable mate.
I cant thank you enough fitzee,i am restoring a 1968 nova and your videos are spot on to everything i have had to weld and fabricate..You rock!!!..Thank you and god bless!!
I come back to this video every so often. I don't weld patch panels often, but when I do, this is so much easier than the way I have done it in the past.
This guy is amazing. He is skilled, he understands what he is doing and why, he explains it well. And he throws in a little humour every new and again. You just have to concentrate on what he is saying because the accent. It is wonderful. Bless you Fitzee for sharing your amazing talent with us mortals.
So i have been studying patching with a mig and a few others that also zip cut around their new metal but then they fumble around with the entire new piece floating. Your method is the best and simple. So i've done body work many years ago including rust repair but with gas only. You gave the final tip i needed. Retired now from another profession and getting back into some body work and a project. Thanks, you help a lot!
Like the other comments, I’ve been welding all my professional life and have never seen a brilliant fix like that. Hats off to you sir. This is the good part of RUclips.
As an old bodyguy that did mostly collision work I'm enjoying your videos and picking up a few tips. My eyes closed every time you pulled the trigger. lol
If you weld often remember that bare skin exposed to welding arcs is a recipe for skin cancer. Long Sleeves and a Hood even if you can weld with your eyes closed. If you weld once a year I wouldn't worry about it.
At 9:06 I literally said out loud "You're a freaking genius" I have been doing metal fab for more than 20 years and I never saw that one before, Well done my friend, well done !
@@zakibird That's wha tI thought. I even suggested this once to a friend who was welding up some pieces on a car. I thought everyone did it like this. Very locical. Great explanation Fitzee.
The thing is that when he's done, the average person won't know that there's a newer style gas lid in a truck that had it's tank in the cab. But for us car guys, that is awesome. Great job. Hope that you young bloods pay attention, it's a skill, not just replacing panels doing insurance jobs.
I'm genuinely quite annoyed with myself for how much time I've wasted over the years fitting up sections and holding them in position. This is a really, really good idea - thanks for sharing.
@@15x10inchrims Magnets could be used instead of the holding welds but there would still be a risk that the weld-in piece moved. This vid really about how to get the new piece to exactly fit the hole. Great idea!
@@15x10inchrims magnets aren’t a positive clamp. Neither are spring loaded clamps. When metal moves, it’s a very strong force. Magnets also are dirty. They attract every tiny steel particle around.
When I first started watching, I thought, "That's not a butt weld", but then I kept watching. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!. I just finished restoring a car and did it all the hard way, flanging where I could, and magnets where I had too. I WISH I had seen this before!!!!
One advantage of this technique is it forces a guy to go SLOW. Changing back/fourth between grinding and welding let's the metal cool down and therefore helps prevent warpage, due to overheating (a very common problem for guys installing panels). Very nicely done!
LOL! I hate getting old! I was watching this thinking you were putting the door in the passenger side rear facing forward.... DUH! Thanks for your tutorials! It's always fun watching you work! All the best to you!!!
I did this at the weekend and it worked perfectly! FANTASTIC!!! I'm a beginner and struggling with fitment, taking hours to do a basic patch. what a revelation! Amazing. I had the old rust cut out of curved section on Hood/bonnet., patch formed and welded in, ground flat and, filled, primed in 3 hours. All outside in my yard in between rain. Thankyou Fitzee!!!
What an absolute craftsman. Unfortunately skills such as these will be a thing of the past. It's great having videos like this which demonstrate how the professionals achieve these amazing results. Thank you. 👍
EXCELLENT VIDEO! A+ in clarity. A+ in Video and Sound. A+ in dumbing down ALL the aspects (most youtuber instructors assume the audience should know things, they don't).
WHEN YOUR A CRAFTSMAN YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING YOUR TRADE, IT'S A LIFETIME POSITION. IF YOUR LUCKY, YOU WILL FIND AN OLD-TIMER WHO WILL PASS ON HIS OR HER KNOWLEDGE TO YOU IF YOUR WILLING TO LEARN!! GREAT JOB MY FRIEND, THANKS FOR SHARING WITH US.🇺🇲✌️🙂👍
I have watched several of your videos and found this one to be truly exceptional. Not just the 45 degree cut idea bu the cut weld, cut weld a bit at a time to ensure a tight seam. I've replace panels about every way possible , with backing metal and stepping a lip in the backing metal, but this is a FAR better approach to a lasting panel repair. I have several critical door panel replacements to do and this really improved my confidence that I can do a fine job on those. I would love to hear more about your cutoff wheel details, I assume a .040 ? I am going to go practice on some metal right now. This is the sort of shared information that makes RUclips truly useful. Thanks for sharing you are an awesome individual to make this video for us!!
@@fitzeesfabrications hello sir. I want to use the 45 degree method on my 07 Mazda rear fender ,but how do I retrieve the cut peice.. thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You are a craftsman sir. Thanks for this excellent video. I am just about to start on the bodywork of a 73 triumph spitfire that has the usual rust! Cheers, Steve in the uk
@@traktorworks3200 bestowing the title of "true craftsperson" on this hack-he's nothing of the sort. This video is step by step how not to do this job-If you don't know how good work of this sort is actually done, I would be happy to link you to real craftsmen-
@@horacerumpole6912 well i would love to see what you suggest. but i might also say calling some one a dunce is rude and pretty much uncalled for and i dont appreciate it and im sure others would not too. also the manner in which the guy did the work seemed quite a skilled effort. if it works its good no matter how others may say it should be done. im sure you know there is always more than one way to do a job.
I never thought of going in at a 45 with the cutoff disc. I love the reciprocating air saw for these because of the extremely small blade kerf. I'm going to give the disc a try at a 45 when I do some rust repair our daily driver this week. Thanks for the tip.
If you want to further control warpage,pin holes and hard welds. 1 do not quench with air or water. It further hardens the weld. 2 stitch weld 5 to 7 welds. Then grind the stich weld. Immediately. Three things happen. You temper the weld. Making it sorted. You eliminate pin holes because you resume welding slightly on top of the weld you just ground eliminating the gap that causes a pin holes. And eliminating extra heat back into a cool panel fixing pin holes. And you are releasing heat in a controlled manner. Grinding is a process of melting metal and send it off in a spark. If you grind the weld when it's hot. You only add heat once in that area. If you wait and grind. You have added heat when you welded. Then initiated heat again when you grind. Heating the panel again. Try it. It works. I have taught this process to many people and it has helped. This is a very good video. One if the best I have seen. Just wanted to help more people. Hopefully the author will try it and like it and do another video.
This is one of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched. I do collision repair work and when I weld in panels I have the hardest time getting a flush butt weld, I normally have to weld in a backing piece and use it to help fill in gaps that are too wide. I will definitely be using this newfound technique to help improve my welding
@@BobbyDucati1 From what I saw and heard Fitzee say, as you look at the panel the front of the car body is on the left and the back is to the right. That would put the opening notch of the fuel cap towards the back of the car.
@@BobbyDucati1 The cab will be to the left of the door. This puts the door in the front of the bed, between the rear wheel well and the cab. Driving down the road the wind will blow the door closed. Looks correct to me.
@@kike83._. Same. Works on drywall. I'm embarrassed I never thought of doing the same for thin sheetmetal...his technique is even better as the OLD panel stays in place to support the panel as he goes. At first i thought he was going to be a hack. Now I think he needs a Nobel Prize for Bodywork.
I'm just a home "patch-it-together" owner. I never thot of the angle cut for sheet metal or dry wall. However, I have tried welding drywall. Insurance adjuster was NOT impressed. Thanks for TWO great fixes!
This was like a tip on a tip on a tip. The 45-degree cutting is used in woodworking making intarsia and marquetry (think fancy wood inlay). Because of the relative thickness of the wood and width of the blade, it leaves no gaps when the two pieces are assembled. - Using the old fender to support the new piece during weld-up is like a 10th-degree blackbelt genius.
And I suspect if we were to somehow put a measuring device on that angle, it would be right at a 45 degrees... Pretty damn close anyway, free hand and all... hahaha He wields that grinder with precision...
You make a point that explains why I watch well done videos out of my activities. There are transferable concepts in these videos. Angle cuts make sense for intarsia and drywall patches. Seeing that there are techniques that result in predictable results also drives one to research a little with new projects. I’ve really enjoyed his videos.
@@stephenholland6328 YES! Transferable concepts. Well said. I will never weld sheet metal to a car, nor rebuild an engine, but the transferable concepts and processes are invaluable. Thank you Stephen!
Now that is "trick". This is one of those videos that is remembered because it is so simple & useful and you wish you'd have thought of it yourself. Thanks Again! JD
I love you Fitzee. As a southern resident, I noticed that your accent is different from mine. But you understand that some people didn’t or don’t have anybody to teach them anything. You do a better job than any shop teacher that I had.
Tip from an old fabricator: grind the paint off the part to be welded BEFORE you cut it. That way you run less risk of thinning the very edge of the metal. Yes, you'll have to lay out the cut lines (again?) AFTER you remove the paint...... Also, when you are making the 45 degree angle cut with the cutoff wheel, cut .060" INSIDE the edge of the patch-piece. That way you don't have to make a very precise cut to get a nice mating joint. I like the 45 degree cut!! One thing he didn't mention, but that he DID, was put the end of the hammer handle against BOTH pieces. That way they are tack welded flush with each other. Great video from someone who obviously knows what he is doing.
Been fabricating with metal for twenty or so years. Not a lot of body work, but enough to know that you make it look easy. I’ve used this method with fitting wood together using a thin saw blade, so when I saw you start explaining the angle of the cutoff wheel, my mind put off just a little bit of smoke. Nice work my friend and very nice video production👍
Hey fitzee I am a Journeyman red seal welder.. I have been building cars in my spare time for the last 25 years or so. I’ve used a form of the cut and but in the past but the 45% cut is Genius...I have to say I love your channel. I stumbled on it a few months ago and have gone back and watched all of your videos.just wanted to say thanks from British Columbia Canada.awesome content!
Thank you for posting this tutorial and excellent technique! I have never seen this style done nor so well explained. I will do some practice on scrap sheet metal and then have at it on my 66 Bronco! And I have fuel doors, old filler neck holes in quarter panels and terrible speaker holes in my doors to repair. Thank you sir, great job!
Agreed. Amazing. Thank you Fitzie for taking the time to teach us all a thing or twelve about a thing or two. Just did my first “butt n cut” on my old 51 F1 and it went really well. Not perfect but I am just getting started on my fabrications. Thanks again sir and god bless.
This was crazy to see. Recently got into welding and metal working as a hobby. I've only got just one semester of a high school welding class under my belt and that was a few years ago, so I'm not very good and have struggled with sheet metal welding a lot. Very helpful thank you!
I just used this method to buttweld a lower half of a door, and it worked like a charm!! I wish I knew this method 25 years ago.. Never too old to try new tricks!
Thanks for explaining so clearly how you were able to get the patch flush with the body after originally tacking it on top of the body panel. Such great instruction!
Fitzee you are such a natural at teaching, I look forward to watching all your videos and take notes, from this technology teacher I give you an A+ with honors. I'm watching your videos like it was Netflix, (in NJ still in shelter and teaching class online). I can't wait till school is out and I can get my MIG out of the garage.
For everyone that said the door is in backwards, go back to 5:20 and you'll see that he is working on the side panel in front of the rear wheel. Which means the wind will blow the fuel door closed if the owner forgets to close it.
It will close from wind at about 150 mph! Those are stiff springs on the thick hinge, made to last or you would have seen a lot of fuel doors gone off those trucks. I had a 71 C20 back in 1980, factory 350, 4bbl quad carb, oil bath air cleaner, 255 hp. granny gear 4 spd. It could pass cars on the uphill with a cabover camper on it and hauled all kinds of junk. The rear never sagged from weight, they were trucks.
This is TRULY the mark of a PROFESSIONAL. I am about to attempt some very minor rust repair on my 1976 Eldorado convertible with 48K original. It sat for over 25 years. It has some rust holes that can be very easily filled with putty. I want to do it right and out of all the studying and videos I have watched this is the technique that I am going to employ. SUPER JOB!
Brother, just watching this...everything clicked! It makes sense and this is something I can't wait to try! Awesome video man and thanks for making it!
This is really helpful. The hole time I was wondering how you were going to get the over lapping metal on backside out after it’s finished. So simple but super efficient. This saves a lot of time and frustration. Thanks for sharing
45 degree cut, eh? Awesome! I never thought a wood working trick would work on metal, but the results don’t lie! Makes total sense! Thanks for my new favorite channel.
Great Job !!!! I just subscribed to your channel. I have been a body man for 25 years and have painted even longer. Your amazing man. You have honed your skill a long time, I can tell. I started doing collision work in my 20's and got my feet wet, couldn't stand doing insurance work with claims adjusters that couldn't use a screw driver. I got into building customs and never looked back. I'm very glad that I found you.
I love learning new tricks! I always say to the youngns never piss off an older coworker because they'll never show you their tricks. Then you'll be stuck learning the hard way by trial and error!!! Thank you!!!
I never comment on videos. But I had to after this. I have been doing my own body repair for about 10 years now. I’m redoing the bed on my truck currently and happened to come across your video. I just got done doing a butt weld with your method. It worked GREAT! It’s my best butt weld ever. Thanks for the tip! I subscribed.
I followed Fitzee's Cut & Butt method on a floor pan patch on my `70 F250, and it worked beautifully! Thank you so much for sharing your genius techniques!!
Love Newfoundlanders! One thing Newfoundland has an abundance of are skilled craftsman and craftswomen! Wish there were more helpful videos from 'The Rock'.
You had me in a panic there when you tack welded it at first. What a cool technique to not use the holders!!! I am about to try patching some panels and I am trying to learn all that I can to keep the rust from coming back. Seen a lot of videos... some good, some bad, yours is one of the best I have seen! SUBSCRIBED
I've not seen this done before in this way. Well taught and you came through loud and clear. I like the fact you wearing the ear muffs so many times in the years gone by I see younger techs not wearing them but they have to learn the hard way it seems. Thks for the knowledge.
I hit subscribe on the intro video. I've been welding for 25 years since I was 15. Just looking at the cars you have restored I knew you I needed to watch all your videos.
This is a great way to do patch panels. One thing I do differently is that I use the cut-off wheel on an angle to make a small cut through the sheet metal, after that I use an air saw which creates even a smaller gap that is easily welded. .
That's a brilliant system and so well explained and demonstrated to perfection, I have not done any of this yet but I have some rust to cut out of a Truck roof/ Windscreen area that I was putting off for ages because I did not know how or where to start. Cheers From Garry In Australia
Very, VERY nice system!!! Maybe it takes a little longer, but I'll NEVER cut my filler piece too short ever again with this method!!!! A perfect fit every time. Money in the bank! THANKS FOR THIS!!!!
Excellent work, your diagram illustration was top notch, totally explained why your technique of lap joining then cutting out at a 45° angle makes total sense. Nothing worse than having to trying to jump canyons when welding. Air-blower to cool the welds down to, that will definitely be incorporated into any future projects as well. Thankyou so very much.
This is a brilliant tip! I’ve only just started out doing car body work, I tried it on my project yesterday and whilst it didn’t work 100% due to the shape (Inner wheel arch lip) and my inexperience it still worked really well and is something that I will use again many thanks for shearing!
You have to remember that practice makes perfect, this gentleman will have been doing this for years, its a brilliant technique and one I just wish I had known about forty years ago, so you see your never to old to learn,, (forty years ago we never had thin discs either even if you did have an angle grinder but such is life!), weld, enjoy and stay safe.
Interesting. I never had a issue with cracking. The round corners we use to do on over lapped panel work. It dissipated the heat and was easier to fill. A 90 degree corner is tricky when it comes to heat and if you apply too much heat it will pull away from you.
@@Spad68 I think the aviation thing your referring to is related to airplane windows. Some planes crashed in the 50's due to square windows causing metal fatigue. In general though, round things don't concentrate loads like angles do.
I see this video is from 2019. For me, I just watched it. I really enjoy your videos. I really like how you do such great work without a bunch of fancy tools. I can't wait to start creating repair patches and use all your methods. They make such great sense.
@@ronniejohnson317 Some of us restore for high dollar auctions, and museums, which are purists. This is where restoration and reconditioning/repair are different. My farm field truck on the other hand, will have a cobble or two.
I thought I could detect Irish, Australian, English and U.S. influences and was confused. I've not heard the NF accent before except in the Ennis Sisters so thanks for your explanation.
Been welding for years up to 6G coding but you learn something new every day. Or at least I hope you do as life gets boring. This has taught me a new trick after 50 years of welding. Cheers, It's not often THAT happens! :D
Can’t thank you enough for this. Just tried this technique on my camaro’s patch panel and it worked like a charm! And my welding skills are beginner at best but it turned out great! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!
Fitzee, I served an apprenticeship as a mechanic rather than a body man and was taught to do a basic patch using gas welding only. So when my Trans am needed both B pillars rebuilding at the joint between the roof/quarter panel I was dreading it especially as I only had access to a Mig, and being in the UK had no other T/As for reference (a lot of the joint had rusted out). Using your tips and tricks (cut and butt, thicker patch metal etc), I have just successfully completed the first part of the joint rebuild. I know in the great scheme of things it isn't like I've rebuilt a car from scratch lol but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to do your videos, they have been invaluable mate.
Awesome tips. Because of your experience, I will learn faster. Thank you for your video's.
I cant thank you enough fitzee,i am restoring a 1968 nova and your videos are spot on to everything i have had to weld and fabricate..You rock!!!..Thank you and god bless!!
I come back to this video every so often. I don't weld patch panels often, but when I do, this is so much easier than the way I have done it in the past.
This guy is amazing. He is skilled, he understands what he is doing and why, he explains it well. And he throws in a little humour every new and again. You just have to concentrate on what he is saying because the accent. It is wonderful. Bless you Fitzee for sharing your amazing talent with us mortals.
His accent doesn't bother me.
So i have been studying patching with a mig and a few others that also zip cut around their new metal but then they fumble around with the entire new piece floating. Your method is the best and simple. So i've done body work many years ago including rust repair but with gas only. You gave the final tip i needed. Retired now from another profession and getting back into some body work and a project. Thanks, you help a lot!
Like the other comments, I’ve been welding all my professional life and have never seen a brilliant fix like that. Hats off to you sir. This is the good part of RUclips.
As an old bodyguy that did mostly collision work I'm enjoying your videos and picking up a few tips. My eyes closed every time you pulled the trigger. lol
If you weld often remember that bare skin exposed to welding arcs is a recipe for skin cancer. Long Sleeves and a Hood even if you can weld with your eyes closed. If you weld once a year I wouldn't worry about it.
At 9:06 I literally said out loud "You're a freaking genius" I have been doing metal fab for more than 20 years and I never saw that one before, Well done my friend, well done !
Strange thing is I have done very little metalwork but was my first thought on how to do it. I would probably screw it up though😁
Making a cut like woodwork
I said the same thing! My family looked at me like I was nuts...
@@zakibird That's wha tI thought. I even suggested this once to a friend who was welding up some pieces on a car. I thought everyone did it like this. Very locical. Great explanation Fitzee.
yeah he's a wizard alright
The thing is that when he's done, the average person won't know that there's a newer style gas lid in a truck that had it's tank in the cab. But for us car guys, that is awesome. Great job. Hope that you young bloods pay attention, it's a skill, not just replacing panels doing insurance jobs.
that tip with cutting on the angle just blew my mind. i learnt more in a 20 minute video than a full week of a body repair class ahaha
One of the best tips I’ve ever seen on panel welding
You probably made an unintentional typo, there are like tens of tips in this video ;-)
I'm genuinely quite annoyed with myself for how much time I've wasted over the years fitting up sections and holding them in position. This is a really, really good idea - thanks for sharing.
Why not use welding magnets?
@@15x10inchrims Magnets could be used instead of the holding welds but there would still be a risk that the weld-in piece moved. This vid really about how to get the new piece to exactly fit the hole. Great idea!
@@nickhoare8906 I seen it on another RUclips video.
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@@15x10inchrims magnets aren’t a positive clamp. Neither are spring loaded clamps. When metal moves, it’s a very strong force. Magnets also are dirty. They attract every tiny steel particle around.
When I first started watching, I thought, "That's not a butt weld", but then I kept watching. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!. I just finished restoring a car and did it all the hard way, flanging where I could, and magnets where I had too. I WISH I had seen this before!!!!
One advantage of this technique is it forces a guy to go SLOW. Changing back/fourth between grinding and welding let's the metal cool down and therefore helps prevent warpage, due to overheating (a very common problem for guys installing panels). Very nicely done!
LOL! I hate getting old! I was watching this thinking you were putting the door in the passenger side rear facing forward.... DUH! Thanks for your tutorials! It's always fun watching you work! All the best to you!!!
Dang! Just learned more in 20 minutes, than 10 hours of other videos! Subscribed two minutes in ! Sometimes you just know your on to something GREAT!
I did this at the weekend and it worked perfectly! FANTASTIC!!! I'm a beginner and struggling with fitment, taking hours to do a basic patch. what a revelation! Amazing. I had the old rust cut out of curved section on Hood/bonnet., patch formed and welded in, ground flat and, filled, primed in 3 hours. All outside in my yard in between rain. Thankyou Fitzee!!!
What an absolute craftsman. Unfortunately skills such as these will be a thing of the past. It's great having videos like this which demonstrate how the professionals achieve these amazing results. Thank you. 👍
These skills won't be a thing of the past if the young craftsmen embrace the techniques and carry the torch forward so they live on.
EXCELLENT VIDEO! A+ in clarity. A+ in Video and Sound. A+ in dumbing down ALL the aspects (most youtuber instructors assume the audience should know things, they don't).
This has to be one of the best craftsmen that I've watched.
Agreed. He is top notch, and gracious as well. Un pretentious and charming. The best in an educator.
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WHEN YOUR A CRAFTSMAN YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING YOUR TRADE, IT'S A LIFETIME POSITION. IF YOUR LUCKY, YOU WILL FIND AN OLD-TIMER WHO WILL PASS ON HIS OR HER KNOWLEDGE TO YOU IF YOUR WILLING TO LEARN!! GREAT JOB MY FRIEND, THANKS FOR SHARING WITH US.🇺🇲✌️🙂👍
I have watched several of your videos and found this one to be truly exceptional. Not just the 45 degree cut idea bu the cut weld, cut weld a bit at a time to ensure a tight seam. I've replace panels about every way possible , with backing metal and stepping a lip in the backing metal, but this is a FAR better approach to a lasting panel repair. I have several critical door panel replacements to do and this really improved my confidence that I can do a fine job on those. I would love to hear more about your cutoff wheel details, I assume a .040 ? I am going to go practice on some metal right now. This is the sort of shared information that makes RUclips truly useful. Thanks for sharing you are an awesome individual to make this video for us!!
The cutting wheels are 3/64. And thanks for the kind words.
@@fitzeesfabrications hello sir. I want to use the 45 degree method on my 07 Mazda rear fender ,but how do I retrieve the cut peice.. thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I was always afraid to weld sheet metal you make it look easy I’m Going to start doing it you are the master
Your teaching abilities are such a pleasure to watch. I sat though the whole video then subscribed and I don't even do body work. Thanks
You are a craftsman sir. Thanks for this excellent video. I am just about to start on the bodywork of a 73 triumph spitfire that has the usual rust! Cheers, Steve in the uk
just love it when a true craftsperson shares their hard earned skills. your vid gets an A+++ from me.
you dunce…
@@horacerumpole6912 why am I a dunce.
can you explain as I take your comment as something of a insult.
@@traktorworks3200 bestowing the title of "true craftsperson" on this hack-he's nothing of the sort. This video is step by step how not to do this job-If you don't know how good work of this sort is actually done, I would be happy to link you to real craftsmen-
@@horacerumpole6912 well i would love to see what you suggest. but i might also say calling some one a dunce is rude and pretty much uncalled for and i dont appreciate it and im sure others would not too. also the manner in which the guy did the work seemed quite a skilled effort. if it works its good no matter how others may say it should be done. im sure you know there is always more than one way to do a job.
@@traktorworks3200 "seemed quite a skilled effort"
tell me, are you here merely to be entertained, or are you genuinely trying to learn something?:
I've been a welder/fabricator since the 90's; that is a beautiful technique sir.
I never thought of going in at a 45 with the cutoff disc. I love the reciprocating air saw for these because of the extremely small blade kerf. I'm going to give the disc a try at a 45 when I do some rust repair our daily driver this week. Thanks for the tip.
At first, I thought you were nuts, but I had to eat it. You definitely knew what you were doing. Nice Job🙋♂️
If you want to further control warpage,pin holes and hard welds. 1 do not quench with air or water. It further hardens the weld. 2 stitch weld 5 to 7 welds. Then grind the stich weld. Immediately. Three things happen. You temper the weld. Making it sorted. You eliminate pin holes because you resume welding slightly on top of the weld you just ground eliminating the gap that causes a pin holes. And eliminating extra heat back into a cool panel fixing pin holes. And you are releasing heat in a controlled manner. Grinding is a process of melting metal and send it off in a spark. If you grind the weld when it's hot. You only add heat once in that area. If you wait and grind. You have added heat when you welded. Then initiated heat again when you grind. Heating the panel again. Try it. It works. I have taught this process to many people and it has helped. This is a very good video. One if the best I have seen. Just wanted to help more people. Hopefully the author will try it and like it and do another video.
Very interesting. I will have to give this a look.
I think you will like it. You have more control over the panel. I would have also radiused the corners. But that is a matter of preference.
I'm never too old to learn and my late father always told me to learn from those that do, not those that teach. He was right. Thanks for sharing.
Your father was a wise man.
This is one of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched. I do collision repair work and when I weld in panels I have the hardest time getting a flush butt weld, I normally have to weld in a backing piece and use it to help fill in gaps that are too wide. I will definitely be using this newfound technique to help improve my welding
I hope you can reply to your reply as an update and let us read how it worked for you. There were so many tips included in this video.
"newfound technique"
We see what you did there. :)
Been doing body work for 40 years and that is way too cool. learned something new today. Subscribed
Thanks that was awesome 😎, why did the fuel door open to the rear looks backwards?
@@BobbyDucati1 From what I saw and heard Fitzee say, as you look at the panel the front of the car body is on the left and the back is to the right.
That would put the opening notch of the fuel cap towards the back of the car.
Ian H first off it’s truck and no your wring with your explanation... the door opens backwards..
Bobby noneya your right it’s backwards..
@@BobbyDucati1 The cab will be to the left of the door. This puts the door in the front of the bed, between the rear wheel well and the cab. Driving down the road the wind will blow the door closed. Looks correct to me.
I feel like I need to pay for watching this! Thank you so much for the tip about the 45 degree cut
So smart and simple! 30 years of learning distilled down. You have saved me years of frustration!
Interesting tip...cutting at an angle. I do that for drywall but, I would not have thought to do that for thin metal.
Thanks for the tip!
I would not have thought to do it for drywall. Good idea.
Im a drywaller here in vegas an done that for years in drywall lol! Never thought on doing this to metal fab! I love it!!
@@kike83._. Same. Works on drywall. I'm embarrassed I never thought of doing the same for thin sheetmetal...his technique is even better as the OLD panel stays in place to support the panel as he goes. At first i thought he was going to be a hack. Now I think he needs a Nobel Prize for Bodywork.
When you started explaining the angled cut, I thought to myself "DoH! I do the same thing when doing scrollsaw inlay with wood!
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I'm just a home "patch-it-together" owner. I never thot of the angle cut for sheet metal or dry wall.
However, I have tried welding drywall. Insurance adjuster was NOT impressed.
Thanks for TWO great fixes!
This was like a tip on a tip on a tip. The 45-degree cutting is used in woodworking making intarsia and marquetry (think fancy wood inlay). Because of the relative thickness of the wood and width of the blade, it leaves no gaps when the two pieces are assembled. - Using the old fender to support the new piece during weld-up is like a 10th-degree blackbelt genius.
And I suspect if we were to somehow put a measuring device on that angle, it would be right at a 45 degrees...
Pretty damn close anyway, free hand and all... hahaha
He wields that grinder with precision...
You make a point that explains why I watch well done videos out of my activities. There are transferable concepts in these videos. Angle cuts make sense for intarsia and drywall patches. Seeing that there are techniques that result in predictable results also drives one to research a little with new projects. I’ve really enjoyed his videos.
@@stephenholland6328 YES! Transferable concepts. Well said. I will never weld sheet metal to a car, nor rebuild an engine, but the transferable concepts and processes are invaluable. Thank you Stephen!
45 deg cut is a great idea. First seen on this channel.
Now that is "trick". This is one of those videos that is remembered because it is so simple & useful and you wish you'd have thought of it yourself. Thanks Again! JD
I love you Fitzee. As a southern resident, I noticed that your accent is different from mine. But you understand that some people didn’t or don’t have anybody to teach them anything. You do a better job than any shop teacher that I had.
Tip from an old fabricator: grind the paint off the part to be welded BEFORE you cut it. That way you run less risk of thinning the very edge of the metal. Yes, you'll have to lay out the cut lines (again?) AFTER you remove the paint......
Also, when you are making the 45 degree angle cut with the cutoff wheel, cut .060" INSIDE the edge of the patch-piece. That way you don't have to make a very precise cut to get a nice mating joint.
I like the 45 degree cut!! One thing he didn't mention, but that he DID, was put the end of the hammer handle against BOTH pieces. That way they are tack welded flush with each other. Great video from someone who obviously knows what he is doing.
Also good tips, Thanks
This is the kind of stuff they would teach in High School shop classes. no more unfortunately, Thanks for another great video!
Been fabricating with metal for twenty or so years. Not a lot of body work, but enough to know that you make it look easy. I’ve used this method with fitting wood together using a thin saw blade, so when I saw you start explaining the angle of the cutoff wheel, my mind put off just a little bit of smoke. Nice work my friend and very nice video production👍
Hey fitzee I am a Journeyman red seal welder.. I have been building cars in my spare time for the last 25 years or so. I’ve used a form of the cut and but in the past but the 45% cut is Genius...I have to say I love your channel. I stumbled on it a few months ago and have gone back and watched all of your videos.just wanted to say thanks from British Columbia Canada.awesome content!
Thank you for posting this tutorial and excellent technique! I have never seen this style done nor so well explained. I will do some practice on scrap sheet metal and then have at it on my 66 Bronco! And I have fuel doors, old filler neck holes in quarter panels and terrible speaker holes in my doors to repair. Thank you sir, great job!
Agreed. Amazing. Thank you Fitzie for taking the time to teach us all a thing or twelve about a thing or two. Just did my first “butt n cut” on my old 51 F1 and it went really well. Not perfect but I am just getting started on my fabrications. Thanks again sir and god bless.
This was crazy to see. Recently got into welding and metal working as a hobby. I've only got just one semester of a high school welding class under my belt and that was a few years ago, so I'm not very good and have struggled with sheet metal welding a lot. Very helpful thank you!
15 years old and restoring my Saab. I can guarantee that trick will be used to patch my quarter panel. Amazing!
Good luck on the restoration.
I just used this method to buttweld a lower half of a door, and it worked like a charm!! I wish I knew this method 25 years ago.. Never too old to try new tricks!
Thanks for explaining so clearly how you were able to get the patch flush with the body after originally tacking it on top of the body panel. Such great instruction!
Fitzee you are such a natural at teaching, I look forward to watching all your videos and take notes, from this technology teacher I give you an A+ with honors. I'm watching your videos like it was Netflix, (in NJ still in shelter and teaching class online). I can't wait till school is out and I can get my MIG out of the garage.
For everyone that said the door is in backwards, go back to 5:20 and you'll see that he is working on the side panel in front of the rear wheel. Which means the wind will blow the fuel door closed if the owner forgets to close it.
It will close from wind at about 150 mph! Those are stiff springs on the thick hinge, made to last or you would have seen a lot of fuel doors gone off those trucks. I had a 71 C20 back in 1980, factory 350, 4bbl quad carb, oil bath air cleaner, 255 hp. granny gear 4 spd. It could pass cars on the uphill with a cabover camper on it and hauled all kinds of junk. The rear never sagged from weight, they were trucks.
“Stick around” are you kidding? I can’t stop watching!
same!
Like I've been buttwelded into my chair
So true.
1.2 million agree
This is TRULY the mark of a PROFESSIONAL. I am about to attempt some very minor rust repair on my 1976 Eldorado convertible with 48K original. It sat for over 25 years. It has some rust holes that can be very easily filled with putty. I want to do it right and out of all the studying and videos I have watched this is the technique that I am going to employ. SUPER JOB!
I used to do body work for a living, now just part time on the side. You just blew my mind, a very simple but effective method. Thanks Fitzee
9:40 perfect. I’m an old tinman from the 60ies. You just showed the best representation of how to do a tough job the easy way. Kudo’s to you!
interesting sense of humor you have there…
Brother, just watching this...everything clicked! It makes sense and this is something I can't wait to try! Awesome video man and thanks for making it!
This is really helpful. The hole time I was wondering how you were going to get the over lapping metal on backside out after it’s finished. So simple but super efficient. This saves a lot of time and frustration. Thanks for sharing
45 degree cut, eh? Awesome! I never thought a wood working trick would work on metal, but the results don’t lie! Makes total sense! Thanks for my new favorite channel.
Great Job !!!! I just subscribed to your channel. I have been a body man for 25 years and have painted even longer. Your amazing man. You have honed your skill a long time, I can tell. I started doing collision work in my 20's and got my feet wet, couldn't stand doing insurance work with claims adjusters that couldn't use a screw driver. I got into building customs and never looked back. I'm very glad that I found you.
Only video worth watching on RUclips so far. Just amazing.
Beautiful work. Thanks for not putting goofy music in the video too
I love learning new tricks! I always say to the youngns never piss off an older coworker because they'll never show you their tricks. Then you'll be stuck learning the hard way by trial and error!!!
Thank you!!!
I have been butt welding panels for 20 years but his technique of cutting as you go is easier and faster. Thanks for a great video.
I never comment on videos. But I had to after this. I have been doing my own body repair for about 10 years now. I’m redoing the bed on my truck currently and happened to come across your video. I just got done doing a butt weld with your method. It worked GREAT! It’s my best butt weld ever. Thanks for the tip! I subscribed.
Doing it that way makes one heck of a lot of sense , I love it.
Thank for the information.
You, sir, are an artist! I've never welded before because it seems overwhelming but now I find myself pricing welders. 😁😁
do it- you will never regret it.
That's Genius. Will definitely use this technique on a future project.
I followed Fitzee's Cut & Butt method on a floor pan patch on my `70 F250, and it worked beautifully! Thank you so much for sharing your genius techniques!!
I am a french Canadian and I understand everything you say with that beautiful accent and expressions from Newfoundland. Keep those video's coming.
Love Newfoundlanders! One thing Newfoundland has an abundance of are skilled craftsman and craftswomen! Wish there were more helpful videos from 'The Rock'.
Absolutely Magic, now I know how to replace a large portion of Turret on my '53 Ford Customline. Thank you Sir.
You had me in a panic there when you tack welded it at first. What a cool technique to not use the holders!!! I am about to try patching some panels and I am trying to learn all that I can to keep the rust from coming back. Seen a lot of videos... some good, some bad, yours is one of the best I have seen! SUBSCRIBED
I've not seen this done before in this way. Well taught and you came through loud and clear. I like the fact you wearing the ear muffs so many times in the years gone by I see younger techs not wearing them but they have to learn the hard way it seems. Thks for the knowledge.
I hit subscribe on the intro video. I've been welding for 25 years since I was 15. Just looking at the cars you have restored I knew you I needed to watch all your videos.
This is a great way to do patch panels. One thing I do differently is that I use the cut-off wheel on an angle to make a small cut through the sheet metal, after that I use an air saw which creates even a smaller gap that is easily welded.
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I feel bad, I've never done any panel repair, so I'll have this little trick in the bag if knowledge without ever having done it the hard way! Thanks!
That's a brilliant system and so well explained and demonstrated to perfection, I have not done any of this yet but I have some rust to cut out of a Truck roof/ Windscreen area that I was putting off for ages because I did not know how or where to start. Cheers From Garry In Australia
Very, VERY nice system!!! Maybe it takes a little longer, but I'll NEVER cut my filler piece too short ever again with this method!!!! A perfect fit every time. Money in the bank! THANKS FOR THIS!!!!
Whale oil beef hooked! This is by far the best panel weld idea so far. Great vid.
Finally a straight forward near foolproof method. I can’t wait to tackle my qtr panel patch.
Saw so many of the same habits I've got as well 😆 especially using my gut as a 3rd hand to push a body hammer
actually in the 70's a hadyman i worked with showed me that when joining lengths of wood trim same priciple different material but good to know.
Excellent work, your diagram illustration was top notch, totally explained why your technique of lap joining then cutting out at a 45° angle makes total sense. Nothing worse than having to trying to jump canyons when welding. Air-blower to cool the welds down to, that will definitely be incorporated into any future projects as well. Thankyou so very much.
Fitzee is the best welder on RUclips hands down and his videos are all excellent and very educational.
This is a brilliant tip! I’ve only just started out doing car body work, I tried it on my project yesterday and whilst it didn’t work 100% due to the shape (Inner wheel arch lip) and my inexperience it still worked really well and is something that I will use again many thanks for shearing!
You have to remember that practice makes perfect, this gentleman will have been doing this for years, its a brilliant technique and one I just wish I had known about forty years ago, so you see your never to old to learn,, (forty years ago we never had thin discs either even if you did have an angle grinder but such is life!), weld, enjoy and stay safe.
Shearing? That was Pun Intended right? 🤣
DAMN someone give this man an award! This is going to make my life a lot easier.
I would just recommend rounding corners whenever possible. It decreases the chance of cracking when the metal moves when it is being driven.
Interesting. I never had a issue with cracking. The round corners we use to do on over lapped panel work. It dissipated the heat and was easier to fill. A 90 degree corner is tricky when it comes to heat and if you apply too much heat it will pull away from you.
That rounded corners is more for aluminum . It's an aviation thing . Don't think it'll be and issue with metal .
Kind of hard to cut the 45 in a round corner with a grinding wheel.
@@Spad68 I think the aviation thing your referring to is related to airplane windows. Some planes crashed in the 50's due to square windows causing metal fatigue. In general though, round things don't concentrate loads like angles do.
@@bob.w3984 drill 4 holes in the corners before, not that much of work. Also gives you the outlines of your square, and you get perfect corners
Wow, thanks very much. That is fantastic. I'm a raw beginner at this stuff, so your tips are an absolute gold mine.
I see this video is from 2019. For me, I just watched it. I really enjoy your videos. I really like how you do such great work without a bunch of fancy tools. I can't wait to start creating repair patches and use all your methods. They make such great sense.
Damm I been fighting Panels for years not any more Thanks Fitzee's I owe you a Bottle of Great Scotch and a case of your Favorite Beer..
very clever, more than one way to skin a cat, and a very good demo and lesson shared, thank you.
The industrial-scale rattling you’re hearing is all the pennies dropping inside my head. Awesome.
Absolutely perfect , been welding and playing with car for over 30 years and never seen anyone do it like that ,very nice 👍
Thanks sir! Every video I watch that you have done, I learn more and more. Really appreciate these videos.
Wow, this would've made my floorboards so much easier, quite brilliant.
I refuse to worry about something I can cover in carpet. I am not too concerned about warping under the seat or carpet.
@@ronniejohnson317 Some of us restore for high dollar auctions, and museums, which are purists. This is where restoration and reconditioning/repair are different. My farm field truck on the other hand, will have a cobble or two.
I love your ingenuity, and your accent sir. My dad's from Newfoundland, and I hear him in everything you say.
I thought I could detect Irish, Australian, English and U.S. influences and was confused. I've not heard the NF accent before except in the Ennis Sisters so thanks for your explanation.
I've always avoided sheet metal repairs, the fear of watching the gaps appear, and the blow throughs, never stop learning.
Been welding for years up to 6G coding but you learn something new every day. Or at least I hope you do as life gets boring. This has taught me a new trick after 50 years of welding. Cheers, It's not often THAT happens! :D
Can’t thank you enough for this. Just tried this technique on my camaro’s patch panel and it worked like a charm! And my welding skills are beginner at best but it turned out great! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!