So i have been studying patching with a mig and a few others that also zip cut around their new metal but then they fumble around with the entire new piece floating. Your method is the best and simple. So i've done body work many years ago including rust repair but with gas only. You gave the final tip i needed. Retired now from another profession and getting back into some body work and a project. Thanks, you help a lot!
Fitzee, I served an apprenticeship as a mechanic rather than a body man and was taught to do a basic patch using gas welding only. So when my Trans am needed both B pillars rebuilding at the joint between the roof/quarter panel I was dreading it especially as I only had access to a Mig, and being in the UK had no other T/As for reference (a lot of the joint had rusted out). Using your tips and tricks (cut and butt, thicker patch metal etc), I have just successfully completed the first part of the joint rebuild. I know in the great scheme of things it isn't like I've rebuilt a car from scratch lol but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to do your videos, they have been invaluable mate.
This guy is amazing. He is skilled, he understands what he is doing and why, he explains it well. And he throws in a little humour every new and again. You just have to concentrate on what he is saying because the accent. It is wonderful. Bless you Fitzee for sharing your amazing talent with us mortals.
I love you Fitzee. As a southern resident, I noticed that your accent is different from mine. But you understand that some people didn’t or don’t have anybody to teach them anything. You do a better job than any shop teacher that I had.
The thing is that when he's done, the average person won't know that there's a newer style gas lid in a truck that had it's tank in the cab. But for us car guys, that is awesome. Great job. Hope that you young bloods pay attention, it's a skill, not just replacing panels doing insurance jobs.
Like the other comments, I’ve been welding all my professional life and have never seen a brilliant fix like that. Hats off to you sir. This is the good part of RUclips.
I'm genuinely quite annoyed with myself for how much time I've wasted over the years fitting up sections and holding them in position. This is a really, really good idea - thanks for sharing.
@@snipestaxservice7983 Magnets could be used instead of the holding welds but there would still be a risk that the weld-in piece moved. This vid really about how to get the new piece to exactly fit the hole. Great idea!
@@snipestaxservice7983 magnets aren’t a positive clamp. Neither are spring loaded clamps. When metal moves, it’s a very strong force. Magnets also are dirty. They attract every tiny steel particle around.
@@kike83._. Same. Works on drywall. I'm embarrassed I never thought of doing the same for thin sheetmetal...his technique is even better as the OLD panel stays in place to support the panel as he goes. At first i thought he was going to be a hack. Now I think he needs a Nobel Prize for Bodywork.
I'm just a home "patch-it-together" owner. I never thot of the angle cut for sheet metal or dry wall. However, I have tried welding drywall. Insurance adjuster was NOT impressed. Thanks for TWO great fixes!
This definitely one of the coolest sheet metal welding tricks I've seen yet. Absolutely brilliant. I've been flux core welding off and on for a few years now and my latest welding project is repairing my Saturn Vue body where is rusted out below. Thank you for sharing your talents.
You know that moment in life, when you see something and just walk about calling yourself a dumbass for the rest of the day. 45 gives a smaller gap, honestly, right in my face the whole time. off outside to have a word with myself.
As an old bodyguy that did mostly collision work I'm enjoying your videos and picking up a few tips. My eyes closed every time you pulled the trigger. lol
If you weld often remember that bare skin exposed to welding arcs is a recipe for skin cancer. Long Sleeves and a Hood even if you can weld with your eyes closed. If you weld once a year I wouldn't worry about it.
At 9:06 I literally said out loud "You're a freaking genius" I have been doing metal fab for more than 20 years and I never saw that one before, Well done my friend, well done !
@@zakibird That's wha tI thought. I even suggested this once to a friend who was welding up some pieces on a car. I thought everyone did it like this. Very locical. Great explanation Fitzee.
I tried this technique for the first time last week- welding in a patch in the floor of my 70 f250. It worked great. Although I made some if my cuts too long. If i had more patience to make shorter cuts before tacking, I would have had an easier time. Overall, its a LOT easier than trying to trim the patch to fit the hole!
Interesting. I never had a issue with cracking. The round corners we use to do on over lapped panel work. It dissipated the heat and was easier to fill. A 90 degree corner is tricky when it comes to heat and if you apply too much heat it will pull away from you.
@@Spad68 I think the aviation thing your referring to is related to airplane windows. Some planes crashed in the 50's due to square windows causing metal fatigue. In general though, round things don't concentrate loads like angles do.
I never thought of going in at a 45 with the cutoff disc. I love the reciprocating air saw for these because of the extremely small blade kerf. I'm going to give the disc a try at a 45 when I do some rust repair our daily driver this week. Thanks for the tip.
I cant thank you enough fitzee,i am restoring a 1968 nova and your videos are spot on to everything i have had to weld and fabricate..You rock!!!..Thank you and god bless!!
One advantage of this technique is it forces a guy to go SLOW. Changing back/fourth between grinding and welding let's the metal cool down and therefore helps prevent warpage, due to overheating (a very common problem for guys installing panels). Very nicely done!
This was like a tip on a tip on a tip. The 45-degree cutting is used in woodworking making intarsia and marquetry (think fancy wood inlay). Because of the relative thickness of the wood and width of the blade, it leaves no gaps when the two pieces are assembled. - Using the old fender to support the new piece during weld-up is like a 10th-degree blackbelt genius.
And I suspect if we were to somehow put a measuring device on that angle, it would be right at a 45 degrees... Pretty damn close anyway, free hand and all... hahaha He wields that grinder with precision...
You make a point that explains why I watch well done videos out of my activities. There are transferable concepts in these videos. Angle cuts make sense for intarsia and drywall patches. Seeing that there are techniques that result in predictable results also drives one to research a little with new projects. I’ve really enjoyed his videos.
@@stephenholland6328 YES! Transferable concepts. Well said. I will never weld sheet metal to a car, nor rebuild an engine, but the transferable concepts and processes are invaluable. Thank you Stephen!
I have watched several of your videos and found this one to be truly exceptional. Not just the 45 degree cut idea bu the cut weld, cut weld a bit at a time to ensure a tight seam. I've replace panels about every way possible , with backing metal and stepping a lip in the backing metal, but this is a FAR better approach to a lasting panel repair. I have several critical door panel replacements to do and this really improved my confidence that I can do a fine job on those. I would love to hear more about your cutoff wheel details, I assume a .040 ? I am going to go practice on some metal right now. This is the sort of shared information that makes RUclips truly useful. Thanks for sharing you are an awesome individual to make this video for us!!
@@fitzeesfabrications hello sir. I want to use the 45 degree method on my 07 Mazda rear fender ,but how do I retrieve the cut peice.. thank you for sharing your knowledge.
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Great tips and instruction, just when I thought of a question, damned if you didn't answer it. Good video work, too. The 45* angle method was something that I haven't seen being done before and it makes perfect sense, I'll be using that method from now on. For a while there you had me wondering just what you were going to do with the metal section that was behind the panel, but you covered that issue, also. As for your accent, I got used to it after a few moments, after all I'm from North Florida and I also carry a bit of an accent. Looking forward to watching all of your videos. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your valuable experience.
@@traktorworks3200 bestowing the title of "true craftsperson" on this hack-he's nothing of the sort. This video is step by step how not to do this job-If you don't know how good work of this sort is actually done, I would be happy to link you to real craftsmen-
@@horacerumpole6912 well i would love to see what you suggest. but i might also say calling some one a dunce is rude and pretty much uncalled for and i dont appreciate it and im sure others would not too. also the manner in which the guy did the work seemed quite a skilled effort. if it works its good no matter how others may say it should be done. im sure you know there is always more than one way to do a job.
I come back to this video every so often. I don't weld patch panels often, but when I do, this is so much easier than the way I have done it in the past.
This is one of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched. I do collision repair work and when I weld in panels I have the hardest time getting a flush butt weld, I normally have to weld in a backing piece and use it to help fill in gaps that are too wide. I will definitely be using this newfound technique to help improve my welding
Fitzee: like to give you a big ole hug for sharing. Oh how butt welding just got soo much easier. Have nasty floor board to do and didn't want to lap. Thank you thank you thank you.
I did this at the weekend and it worked perfectly! FANTASTIC!!! I'm a beginner and struggling with fitment, taking hours to do a basic patch. what a revelation! Amazing. I had the old rust cut out of curved section on Hood/bonnet., patch formed and welded in, ground flat and, filled, primed in 3 hours. All outside in my yard in between rain. Thankyou Fitzee!!!
2 Newf's driving around in saskatchewan, canoe on top of their car, feeling home sick. One happens to notice a wheat field blowing in the wind kind of looks like waves on water. So him and his buddy take the canoe and throw it into the wheat field and start to row, pretending to be home. One passerby happens to notice this and stops. He asks "Hey you boys from Newfoundland?!!" the guys in the canoe reply "Ya by!" guy from the car yells "It's newfies like you that give us a bad name!!.... If i could swim, i'd come out there and kick your ass!!"
@@dangoldbach6570 Yeah but if you told a pollock that joke he would consider it fightin words. The next day he would be telling the joke to his Polish buddies and change it to "2 German's driving around in Kansas" etc, etc and it would be the funnest joke they ever heard. Anyone overhearing the joke would be like "Germans? Canoe? Kansas?" hmmm pollocks...
I'll have to try that. Typically I just drill holes around the perimeter of the butt cut to plug weld on a backer plate, and I also drill holes on the patch as well. I've always considered a backer plate as adding a bit of structural strengthening.
@@fitzeesfabrications The beauty of your method is that it would eliminate the need to remove the burr left behind on the inside by drilling, or else the backer plate wouldn't lay flat. I have no experience with punch tools so I can't comment on that. On your tack in place, and cut at an angle technique, it seems the most difficult part would be the intersecting corners where the blade would have to plunge enough to meet that corner, while being mindful of the tack weld location and possible movement of cutting through a close tack weld. Perhaps a smaller, or well used cut-off blade would come in handy at those corners. Anyway, thanks for posting.
When I first started watching, I thought, "That's not a butt weld", but then I kept watching. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!. I just finished restoring a car and did it all the hard way, flanging where I could, and magnets where I had too. I WISH I had seen this before!!!!
@@BobbyDucati1 From what I saw and heard Fitzee say, as you look at the panel the front of the car body is on the left and the back is to the right. That would put the opening notch of the fuel cap towards the back of the car.
@@BobbyDucati1 The cab will be to the left of the door. This puts the door in the front of the bed, between the rear wheel well and the cab. Driving down the road the wind will blow the door closed. Looks correct to me.
@@ronniejohnson317 Some of us restore for high dollar auctions, and museums, which are purists. This is where restoration and reconditioning/repair are different. My farm field truck on the other hand, will have a cobble or two.
Thank you for posting this tutorial and excellent technique! I have never seen this style done nor so well explained. I will do some practice on scrap sheet metal and then have at it on my 66 Bronco! And I have fuel doors, old filler neck holes in quarter panels and terrible speaker holes in my doors to repair. Thank you sir, great job!
Tip from an old fabricator: grind the paint off the part to be welded BEFORE you cut it. That way you run less risk of thinning the very edge of the metal. Yes, you'll have to lay out the cut lines (again?) AFTER you remove the paint...... Also, when you are making the 45 degree angle cut with the cutoff wheel, cut .060" INSIDE the edge of the patch-piece. That way you don't have to make a very precise cut to get a nice mating joint. I like the 45 degree cut!! One thing he didn't mention, but that he DID, was put the end of the hammer handle against BOTH pieces. That way they are tack welded flush with each other. Great video from someone who obviously knows what he is doing.
For everyone that said the door is in backwards, go back to 5:20 and you'll see that he is working on the side panel in front of the rear wheel. Which means the wind will blow the fuel door closed if the owner forgets to close it.
It will close from wind at about 150 mph! Those are stiff springs on the thick hinge, made to last or you would have seen a lot of fuel doors gone off those trucks. I had a 71 C20 back in 1980, factory 350, 4bbl quad carb, oil bath air cleaner, 255 hp. granny gear 4 spd. It could pass cars on the uphill with a cabover camper on it and hauled all kinds of junk. The rear never sagged from weight, they were trucks.
This was crazy to see. Recently got into welding and metal working as a hobby. I've only got just one semester of a high school welding class under my belt and that was a few years ago, so I'm not very good and have struggled with sheet metal welding a lot. Very helpful thank you!
Hey, I use magnets from inside old hard drives to hold things flush. They're strong as buggery and perfectly flat. Great vid btw. Makes me want to start another project.
Brother, just watching this...everything clicked! It makes sense and this is something I can't wait to try! Awesome video man and thanks for making it!
I was so confused with the accent. Its half Irish half somethig else but I dont recognise it?! Love the channel, just curious though, what're you doing for eye protection when welding? I see you've got ear defenders and glasses when grinding...
OMG I saw technique and it did not make sense to me. After you explained it I am blown away. Thank you so much for this video How thick/ gage are the cutting wheels?
Now that is "trick". This is one of those videos that is remembered because it is so simple & useful and you wish you'd have thought of it yourself. Thanks Again! JD
Love Newfoundlanders! One thing Newfoundland has an abundance of are skilled craftsman and craftswomen! Wish there were more helpful videos from 'The Rock'.
Agreed. Amazing. Thank you Fitzie for taking the time to teach us all a thing or twelve about a thing or two. Just did my first “butt n cut” on my old 51 F1 and it went really well. Not perfect but I am just getting started on my fabrications. Thanks again sir and god bless.
This is a brilliant tip! I’ve only just started out doing car body work, I tried it on my project yesterday and whilst it didn’t work 100% due to the shape (Inner wheel arch lip) and my inexperience it still worked really well and is something that I will use again many thanks for shearing!
You have to remember that practice makes perfect, this gentleman will have been doing this for years, its a brilliant technique and one I just wish I had known about forty years ago, so you see your never to old to learn,, (forty years ago we never had thin discs either even if you did have an angle grinder but such is life!), weld, enjoy and stay safe.
EXCELLENT VIDEO! A+ in clarity. A+ in Video and Sound. A+ in dumbing down ALL the aspects (most youtuber instructors assume the audience should know things, they don't).
That's a brilliant system and so well explained and demonstrated to perfection, I have not done any of this yet but I have some rust to cut out of a Truck roof/ Windscreen area that I was putting off for ages because I did not know how or where to start. Cheers From Garry In Australia
Fitzee you are such a natural at teaching, I look forward to watching all your videos and take notes, from this technology teacher I give you an A+ with honors. I'm watching your videos like it was Netflix, (in NJ still in shelter and teaching class online). I can't wait till school is out and I can get my MIG out of the garage.
What an absolute craftsman. Unfortunately skills such as these will be a thing of the past. It's great having videos like this which demonstrate how the professionals achieve these amazing results. Thank you. 👍
LOL! I hate getting old! I was watching this thinking you were putting the door in the passenger side rear facing forward.... DUH! Thanks for your tutorials! It's always fun watching you work! All the best to you!!!
Sure you can! You just need to practice it. I'm learning how to weld and at my age "learning anything new" is a real challenge! Start with a small inexpensive wire welder and when you are ready, upgrade to a better welder and to a different style of welder. This is what I'm doing. I started with a wire welder but kept having trouble with setting the wire speed I bought a used stick welder. I'm much better with it, but I still have a long way to go. My neighbor has been welding for over 65 years, so he has helped me figure out a few things.
during ww2 women were building ships , planes tanks gliders - everything requires welding ccmes down to a few things really - you can sew it , nail it , glue it or weld it not really much to learn do it as job and hobby = have fun with it - creative inventive -
@@mrcaboosevg6089 Pretty good at sewing and knitting are yah? My girlfriend, just got done removing her dash, cluster, interior and fuse box, for the wire tuck and shaved bay she is doing.
Been fabricating with metal for twenty or so years. Not a lot of body work, but enough to know that you make it look easy. I’ve used this method with fitting wood together using a thin saw blade, so when I saw you start explaining the angle of the cutoff wheel, my mind put off just a little bit of smoke. Nice work my friend and very nice video production👍
This is a great way to do patch panels. One thing I do differently is that I use the cut-off wheel on an angle to make a small cut through the sheet metal, after that I use an air saw which creates even a smaller gap that is easily welded. .
Just finished modifying some fenders for a trailer and it turned out like shit. Come home and watch the way I should have done it. Figures! I’ll nail it on the next set though. Thanks for posting 👍
I know the feeling mate gives me thevshits too i have patched panels in cars forbbyears and now i see howbto do itproperly mmo use to me nowtoo old and stupid but can always impress some one younger with my brilliance lol
Never though of doing it this way have always just cut straight in under my line and had a tight gap but trying to hold it in the right spot to tack it in place . definitely gona try this next time
@@krusher74 Closing your eyes you will still get inferred burns on your eyes and lids., plus no face shield you will get inferred burns on your face or whatever areas are not covered. I've tried the close your eyes method and woke up the next day feeling like there was sand in my eyes and my eye lids were burned. I learned the hard way , DON'T DO IT. But this is still a very good video.
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So i have been studying patching with a mig and a few others that also zip cut around their new metal but then they fumble around with the entire new piece floating. Your method is the best and simple. So i've done body work many years ago including rust repair but with gas only. You gave the final tip i needed. Retired now from another profession and getting back into some body work and a project. Thanks, you help a lot!
Fitzee, I served an apprenticeship as a mechanic rather than a body man and was taught to do a basic patch using gas welding only. So when my Trans am needed both B pillars rebuilding at the joint between the roof/quarter panel I was dreading it especially as I only had access to a Mig, and being in the UK had no other T/As for reference (a lot of the joint had rusted out). Using your tips and tricks (cut and butt, thicker patch metal etc), I have just successfully completed the first part of the joint rebuild. I know in the great scheme of things it isn't like I've rebuilt a car from scratch lol but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to do your videos, they have been invaluable mate.
Awesome tips. Because of your experience, I will learn faster. Thank you for your video's.
This guy is amazing. He is skilled, he understands what he is doing and why, he explains it well. And he throws in a little humour every new and again. You just have to concentrate on what he is saying because the accent. It is wonderful. Bless you Fitzee for sharing your amazing talent with us mortals.
His accent doesn't bother me.
I love you Fitzee. As a southern resident, I noticed that your accent is different from mine. But you understand that some people didn’t or don’t have anybody to teach them anything. You do a better job than any shop teacher that I had.
The thing is that when he's done, the average person won't know that there's a newer style gas lid in a truck that had it's tank in the cab. But for us car guys, that is awesome. Great job. Hope that you young bloods pay attention, it's a skill, not just replacing panels doing insurance jobs.
Like the other comments, I’ve been welding all my professional life and have never seen a brilliant fix like that. Hats off to you sir. This is the good part of RUclips.
Dang! Just learned more in 20 minutes, than 10 hours of other videos! Subscribed two minutes in ! Sometimes you just know your on to something GREAT!
“Stick around” are you kidding? I can’t stop watching!
same!
Like I've been buttwelded into my chair
So true.
1.2 million agree
that tip with cutting on the angle just blew my mind. i learnt more in a 20 minute video than a full week of a body repair class ahaha
Yes, very good method. Just wished I would have had this experience sooner. Thank you for this!
One of the best tips I’ve ever seen on panel welding
You probably made an unintentional typo, there are like tens of tips in this video ;-)
I'm genuinely quite annoyed with myself for how much time I've wasted over the years fitting up sections and holding them in position. This is a really, really good idea - thanks for sharing.
Why not use welding magnets?
@@snipestaxservice7983 Magnets could be used instead of the holding welds but there would still be a risk that the weld-in piece moved. This vid really about how to get the new piece to exactly fit the hole. Great idea!
@@nickhoare8906 I seen it on another RUclips video.
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@@snipestaxservice7983 magnets aren’t a positive clamp. Neither are spring loaded clamps. When metal moves, it’s a very strong force. Magnets also are dirty. They attract every tiny steel particle around.
Interesting tip...cutting at an angle. I do that for drywall but, I would not have thought to do that for thin metal.
Thanks for the tip!
I would not have thought to do it for drywall. Good idea.
Im a drywaller here in vegas an done that for years in drywall lol! Never thought on doing this to metal fab! I love it!!
@@kike83._. Same. Works on drywall. I'm embarrassed I never thought of doing the same for thin sheetmetal...his technique is even better as the OLD panel stays in place to support the panel as he goes. At first i thought he was going to be a hack. Now I think he needs a Nobel Prize for Bodywork.
When you started explaining the angled cut, I thought to myself "DoH! I do the same thing when doing scrollsaw inlay with wood!
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I'm just a home "patch-it-together" owner. I never thot of the angle cut for sheet metal or dry wall.
However, I have tried welding drywall. Insurance adjuster was NOT impressed.
Thanks for TWO great fixes!
It-s rare to see something so simple and so brilliant! thanks
This definitely one of the coolest sheet metal welding tricks I've seen yet. Absolutely brilliant. I've been flux core welding off and on for a few years now and my latest welding project is repairing my Saturn Vue body where is rusted out below. Thank you for sharing your talents.
some hard to do ...but don't let anyone tell you it ain't doable
You know that moment in life, when you see something and just walk about calling yourself a dumbass for the rest of the day. 45 gives a smaller gap, honestly, right in my face the whole time. off outside to have a word with myself.
As an old bodyguy that did mostly collision work I'm enjoying your videos and picking up a few tips. My eyes closed every time you pulled the trigger. lol
If you weld often remember that bare skin exposed to welding arcs is a recipe for skin cancer. Long Sleeves and a Hood even if you can weld with your eyes closed. If you weld once a year I wouldn't worry about it.
At 9:06 I literally said out loud "You're a freaking genius" I have been doing metal fab for more than 20 years and I never saw that one before, Well done my friend, well done !
Strange thing is I have done very little metalwork but was my first thought on how to do it. I would probably screw it up though😁
Making a cut like woodwork
I said the same thing! My family looked at me like I was nuts...
@@zakibird That's wha tI thought. I even suggested this once to a friend who was welding up some pieces on a car. I thought everyone did it like this. Very locical. Great explanation Fitzee.
yeah he's a wizard alright
I have always struggled with thin patches, very cool technique. Along as you can get the back scraps out. Gonna give it a try!
I tried this technique for the first time last week- welding in a patch in the floor of my 70 f250. It worked great. Although I made some if my cuts too long. If i had more patience to make shorter cuts before tacking, I would have had an easier time. Overall, its a LOT easier than trying to trim the patch to fit the hole!
I would just recommend rounding corners whenever possible. It decreases the chance of cracking when the metal moves when it is being driven.
Interesting. I never had a issue with cracking. The round corners we use to do on over lapped panel work. It dissipated the heat and was easier to fill. A 90 degree corner is tricky when it comes to heat and if you apply too much heat it will pull away from you.
That rounded corners is more for aluminum . It's an aviation thing . Don't think it'll be and issue with metal .
Kind of hard to cut the 45 in a round corner with a grinding wheel.
@@Spad68 I think the aviation thing your referring to is related to airplane windows. Some planes crashed in the 50's due to square windows causing metal fatigue. In general though, round things don't concentrate loads like angles do.
@@bob.w3984 drill 4 holes in the corners before, not that much of work. Also gives you the outlines of your square, and you get perfect corners
I never thought of going in at a 45 with the cutoff disc. I love the reciprocating air saw for these because of the extremely small blade kerf. I'm going to give the disc a try at a 45 when I do some rust repair our daily driver this week. Thanks for the tip.
I cant thank you enough fitzee,i am restoring a 1968 nova and your videos are spot on to everything i have had to weld and fabricate..You rock!!!..Thank you and god bless!!
One advantage of this technique is it forces a guy to go SLOW. Changing back/fourth between grinding and welding let's the metal cool down and therefore helps prevent warpage, due to overheating (a very common problem for guys installing panels). Very nicely done!
Best I've learned from ! You make everythin look easy and you explain it all in detail . Thanks Fitzee
45 deg cut is a great idea. First seen on this channel.
This was like a tip on a tip on a tip. The 45-degree cutting is used in woodworking making intarsia and marquetry (think fancy wood inlay). Because of the relative thickness of the wood and width of the blade, it leaves no gaps when the two pieces are assembled. - Using the old fender to support the new piece during weld-up is like a 10th-degree blackbelt genius.
And I suspect if we were to somehow put a measuring device on that angle, it would be right at a 45 degrees...
Pretty damn close anyway, free hand and all... hahaha
He wields that grinder with precision...
You make a point that explains why I watch well done videos out of my activities. There are transferable concepts in these videos. Angle cuts make sense for intarsia and drywall patches. Seeing that there are techniques that result in predictable results also drives one to research a little with new projects. I’ve really enjoyed his videos.
@@stephenholland6328 YES! Transferable concepts. Well said. I will never weld sheet metal to a car, nor rebuild an engine, but the transferable concepts and processes are invaluable. Thank you Stephen!
I have watched several of your videos and found this one to be truly exceptional. Not just the 45 degree cut idea bu the cut weld, cut weld a bit at a time to ensure a tight seam. I've replace panels about every way possible , with backing metal and stepping a lip in the backing metal, but this is a FAR better approach to a lasting panel repair. I have several critical door panel replacements to do and this really improved my confidence that I can do a fine job on those. I would love to hear more about your cutoff wheel details, I assume a .040 ? I am going to go practice on some metal right now. This is the sort of shared information that makes RUclips truly useful. Thanks for sharing you are an awesome individual to make this video for us!!
The cutting wheels are 3/64. And thanks for the kind words.
@@fitzeesfabrications hello sir. I want to use the 45 degree method on my 07 Mazda rear fender ,but how do I retrieve the cut peice.. thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Saw so many of the same habits I've got as well 😆 especially using my gut as a 3rd hand to push a body hammer
whoever wired your electrical panel did a nice job
I feel like I need to pay for watching this! Thank you so much for the tip about the 45 degree cut
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I was always afraid to weld sheet metal you make it look easy I’m Going to start doing it you are the master
Great tips and instruction, just when I thought of a question, damned if you didn't answer it. Good video work, too. The 45* angle method was something that I haven't seen being done before and it makes perfect sense, I'll be using that method from now on. For a while there you had me wondering just what you were going to do with the metal section that was behind the panel, but you covered that issue, also. As for your accent, I got used to it after a few moments, after all I'm from North Florida and I also carry a bit of an accent. Looking forward to watching all of your videos. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your valuable experience.
Thank you! This video made is SOOOoo much easier for this rookie.
just love it when a true craftsperson shares their hard earned skills. your vid gets an A+++ from me.
you dunce…
@@horacerumpole6912 why am I a dunce.
can you explain as I take your comment as something of a insult.
@@traktorworks3200 bestowing the title of "true craftsperson" on this hack-he's nothing of the sort. This video is step by step how not to do this job-If you don't know how good work of this sort is actually done, I would be happy to link you to real craftsmen-
@@horacerumpole6912 well i would love to see what you suggest. but i might also say calling some one a dunce is rude and pretty much uncalled for and i dont appreciate it and im sure others would not too. also the manner in which the guy did the work seemed quite a skilled effort. if it works its good no matter how others may say it should be done. im sure you know there is always more than one way to do a job.
@@traktorworks3200 "seemed quite a skilled effort"
tell me, are you here merely to be entertained, or are you genuinely trying to learn something?:
I come back to this video every so often. I don't weld patch panels often, but when I do, this is so much easier than the way I have done it in the past.
This has to be one of the best craftsmen that I've watched.
Agreed. He is top notch, and gracious as well. Un pretentious and charming. The best in an educator.
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THX for sharring your trick , beautifull work , very nice job too! Cheers!
Just watched your video. Thank you for the trick. Such a great video.
Beautiful work. Thanks for not putting goofy music in the video too
This is one of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched. I do collision repair work and when I weld in panels I have the hardest time getting a flush butt weld, I normally have to weld in a backing piece and use it to help fill in gaps that are too wide. I will definitely be using this newfound technique to help improve my welding
I hope you can reply to your reply as an update and let us read how it worked for you. There were so many tips included in this video.
"newfound technique"
We see what you did there. :)
ok own up who closed eyes when the welding started ?
I laughed a long time at this comment!
I would laugh at you but I did it the whole time 😆
@@brianb7556 Been there and done that myself and the burnt eyes. Caught myself turning my head.:-0 :-)
Fitzee didn't.
I Was A bit Slow...I Got Flashed.
Fitzee: like to give you a big ole hug for sharing. Oh how butt welding just got soo much easier. Have nasty floor board to do and didn't want to lap. Thank you thank you thank you.
I use a drimmell with a small cutoff wheel to cut the panel, I like it because it’s a little more precise.
I did this at the weekend and it worked perfectly! FANTASTIC!!! I'm a beginner and struggling with fitment, taking hours to do a basic patch. what a revelation! Amazing. I had the old rust cut out of curved section on Hood/bonnet., patch formed and welded in, ground flat and, filled, primed in 3 hours. All outside in my yard in between rain. Thankyou Fitzee!!!
2 Newf's driving around in saskatchewan, canoe on top of their car, feeling home sick.
One happens to notice a wheat field blowing in the wind kind of looks like waves on water. So him and his buddy take the canoe and throw it into the wheat field and start to row, pretending to be home.
One passerby happens to notice this and stops. He asks "Hey you boys from Newfoundland?!!" the guys in the canoe reply "Ya by!" guy from the car yells "It's newfies like you that give us a bad name!!.... If i could swim, i'd come out there and kick your ass!!"
Hahaha.
Lol, good one.
Newfoundland ahhh that's why I hear 3 accents in 5 seconds of the video starting. Is he Scottish? Australian? Canadian? What's going on!
This joke works for pollocks too!😂
@@dangoldbach6570 Yeah but if you told a pollock that joke he would consider it fightin words. The next day he would be telling the joke to his Polish buddies and change it to "2 German's driving around in Kansas" etc, etc and it would be the funnest joke they ever heard. Anyone overhearing the joke would be like "Germans? Canoe? Kansas?" hmmm pollocks...
Just wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I'll have to try that. Typically I just drill holes around the perimeter of the butt cut to plug weld on a backer plate, and I also drill holes on the patch as well. I've always considered a backer plate as adding a bit of structural strengthening.
I done that as well. Just find it adds to the amount of bodywork needed. But hey. There more then one way to skin a cat!
@@fitzeesfabrications The beauty of your method is that it would eliminate the need to remove the burr left behind on the inside by drilling, or else the backer plate wouldn't lay flat. I have no experience with punch tools so I can't comment on that. On your tack in place, and cut at an angle technique, it seems the most difficult part would be the intersecting corners where the blade would have to plunge enough to meet that corner, while being mindful of the tack weld location and possible movement of cutting through a close tack weld. Perhaps a smaller, or well used cut-off blade would come in handy at those corners. Anyway, thanks for posting.
I just run off the corners into good metal. Make sure there is a clean corner. Thanks for watching
When I first started watching, I thought, "That's not a butt weld", but then I kept watching. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!. I just finished restoring a car and did it all the hard way, flanging where I could, and magnets where I had too. I WISH I had seen this before!!!!
Been doing body work for 40 years and that is way too cool. learned something new today. Subscribed
Thanks that was awesome 😎, why did the fuel door open to the rear looks backwards?
@@BobbyDucati1 From what I saw and heard Fitzee say, as you look at the panel the front of the car body is on the left and the back is to the right.
That would put the opening notch of the fuel cap towards the back of the car.
Ian H first off it’s truck and no your wring with your explanation... the door opens backwards..
Bobby noneya your right it’s backwards..
@@BobbyDucati1 The cab will be to the left of the door. This puts the door in the front of the bed, between the rear wheel well and the cab. Driving down the road the wind will blow the door closed. Looks correct to me.
That's Genius. Will definitely use this technique on a future project.
Damm I been fighting Panels for years not any more Thanks Fitzee's I owe you a Bottle of Great Scotch and a case of your Favorite Beer..
Wow, this would've made my floorboards so much easier, quite brilliant.
I refuse to worry about something I can cover in carpet. I am not too concerned about warping under the seat or carpet.
@@ronniejohnson317 Some of us restore for high dollar auctions, and museums, which are purists. This is where restoration and reconditioning/repair are different. My farm field truck on the other hand, will have a cobble or two.
Thank you for posting this tutorial and excellent technique! I have never seen this style done nor so well explained. I will do some practice on scrap sheet metal and then have at it on my 66 Bronco! And I have fuel doors, old filler neck holes in quarter panels and terrible speaker holes in my doors to repair. Thank you sir, great job!
Tip from an old fabricator: grind the paint off the part to be welded BEFORE you cut it. That way you run less risk of thinning the very edge of the metal. Yes, you'll have to lay out the cut lines (again?) AFTER you remove the paint......
Also, when you are making the 45 degree angle cut with the cutoff wheel, cut .060" INSIDE the edge of the patch-piece. That way you don't have to make a very precise cut to get a nice mating joint.
I like the 45 degree cut!! One thing he didn't mention, but that he DID, was put the end of the hammer handle against BOTH pieces. That way they are tack welded flush with each other. Great video from someone who obviously knows what he is doing.
Also good tips, Thanks
For everyone that said the door is in backwards, go back to 5:20 and you'll see that he is working on the side panel in front of the rear wheel. Which means the wind will blow the fuel door closed if the owner forgets to close it.
It will close from wind at about 150 mph! Those are stiff springs on the thick hinge, made to last or you would have seen a lot of fuel doors gone off those trucks. I had a 71 C20 back in 1980, factory 350, 4bbl quad carb, oil bath air cleaner, 255 hp. granny gear 4 spd. It could pass cars on the uphill with a cabover camper on it and hauled all kinds of junk. The rear never sagged from weight, they were trucks.
that moment when you learn something and you wonder how you'd been getting by before that.
This was crazy to see. Recently got into welding and metal working as a hobby. I've only got just one semester of a high school welding class under my belt and that was a few years ago, so I'm not very good and have struggled with sheet metal welding a lot. Very helpful thank you!
Great watch your old school well done.
I've been a welder/fabricator since the 90's; that is a beautiful technique sir.
New saying around the shop "how would Fitzee do it?" Then we watch him to get the answer -- the kick-ass answer...
This is the kind of stuff they would teach in High School shop classes. no more unfortunately, Thanks for another great video!
High standard of work as usual. like others I have learned a lot. ta.
Hey, I use magnets from inside old hard drives to hold things flush. They're strong as buggery and perfectly flat. Great vid btw. Makes me want to start another project.
actually in the 70's a hadyman i worked with showed me that when joining lengths of wood trim same priciple different material but good to know.
I'm never too old to learn and my late father always told me to learn from those that do, not those that teach. He was right. Thanks for sharing.
Your father was a wise man.
15 years old and restoring my Saab. I can guarantee that trick will be used to patch my quarter panel. Amazing!
Good luck on the restoration.
I was thinking..."why doesn't he use Intergrips?" Fitzee opens a drawer of unused Intergrips. That's me told.
I've always avoided sheet metal repairs, the fear of watching the gaps appear, and the blow throughs, never stop learning.
Brother, just watching this...everything clicked! It makes sense and this is something I can't wait to try! Awesome video man and thanks for making it!
Doing it that way makes one heck of a lot of sense , I love it.
Thank for the information.
Came for the welding tips stayed for the Irish accent.
Great work.
Not an Irish accent, either Newfoundland (99% sure), Cape breton or PEI. Regardless, it's a Canadian accent.
I was so confused with the accent. Its half Irish half somethig else but I dont recognise it?!
Love the channel, just curious though, what're you doing for eye protection when welding? I see you've got ear defenders and glasses when grinding...
@@D1GDUG ruclips.net/video/uuFCoDqLmY0/видео.html when he said "car" this is what I heard.
@@D1GDUG it sounds half Irish half Canadian. You just close your eyes doing tack welds.
OMG
I saw technique and it did not make sense to me.
After you explained it I am blown away.
Thank you so much for this video
How thick/ gage are the cutting wheels?
3/64
Now that is "trick". This is one of those videos that is remembered because it is so simple & useful and you wish you'd have thought of it yourself. Thanks Again! JD
Love Newfoundlanders! One thing Newfoundland has an abundance of are skilled craftsman and craftswomen! Wish there were more helpful videos from 'The Rock'.
Agreed. Amazing. Thank you Fitzie for taking the time to teach us all a thing or twelve about a thing or two. Just did my first “butt n cut” on my old 51 F1 and it went really well. Not perfect but I am just getting started on my fabrications. Thanks again sir and god bless.
This is a brilliant tip! I’ve only just started out doing car body work, I tried it on my project yesterday and whilst it didn’t work 100% due to the shape (Inner wheel arch lip) and my inexperience it still worked really well and is something that I will use again many thanks for shearing!
You have to remember that practice makes perfect, this gentleman will have been doing this for years, its a brilliant technique and one I just wish I had known about forty years ago, so you see your never to old to learn,, (forty years ago we never had thin discs either even if you did have an angle grinder but such is life!), weld, enjoy and stay safe.
Shearing? That was Pun Intended right? 🤣
EXCELLENT VIDEO! A+ in clarity. A+ in Video and Sound. A+ in dumbing down ALL the aspects (most youtuber instructors assume the audience should know things, they don't).
That's a brilliant system and so well explained and demonstrated to perfection, I have not done any of this yet but I have some rust to cut out of a Truck roof/ Windscreen area that I was putting off for ages because I did not know how or where to start. Cheers From Garry In Australia
Fitzee you are such a natural at teaching, I look forward to watching all your videos and take notes, from this technology teacher I give you an A+ with honors. I'm watching your videos like it was Netflix, (in NJ still in shelter and teaching class online). I can't wait till school is out and I can get my MIG out of the garage.
What an absolute craftsman. Unfortunately skills such as these will be a thing of the past. It's great having videos like this which demonstrate how the professionals achieve these amazing results. Thank you. 👍
These skills won't be a thing of the past if the young craftsmen embrace the techniques and carry the torch forward so they live on.
You, sir, are an artist! I've never welded before because it seems overwhelming but now I find myself pricing welders. 😁😁
do it- you will never regret it.
Amazing tip. Thank you.
LOL! I hate getting old! I was watching this thinking you were putting the door in the passenger side rear facing forward.... DUH! Thanks for your tutorials! It's always fun watching you work! All the best to you!!!
I'm a girl and I had to watch this twice to figure out what the heck I'm watching. Thx. for building the world fellers... I could never do this.
Sure you can! You just need to practice it. I'm learning how to weld and at my age "learning anything new" is a real challenge! Start with a small inexpensive wire welder and when you are ready, upgrade to a better welder and to a different style of welder. This is what I'm doing. I started with a wire welder but kept having trouble with setting the wire speed I bought a used stick welder. I'm much better with it, but I still have a long way to go. My neighbor has been welding for over 65 years, so he has helped me figure out a few things.
Of course you can, the only difference between men and women is men get stuck into things even if they're crap at it whereas women won't try.
Yeah you could JS
during ww2 women were building ships , planes tanks gliders - everything requires welding ccmes down to a few things really - you can sew it , nail it , glue it or weld it not really much to learn do it as job and hobby = have fun with it - creative inventive -
@@mrcaboosevg6089 Pretty good at sewing and knitting are yah? My girlfriend, just got done removing her dash, cluster, interior and fuse box, for the wire tuck and shaved bay she is doing.
Finally a straight forward near foolproof method. I can’t wait to tackle my qtr panel patch.
Well that was disappointing, he was welding with his hands just like anyone else.
Tim Hill . Hahaa, good stuff! 😂
I hope he’s not offended if so I hope he can turn the other cheek.
Around here we use a word called "hars" meaning (ass). Used in a sentence.... Tim your a harshole!! Lol
Fitzee's Fabrications thanks for that.😁
@@fitzeesfabrications Some people just don't get the whole picture Fitzee, great job my buddy.
The industrial-scale rattling you’re hearing is all the pennies dropping inside my head. Awesome.
Great tutorial, thanks !!
very clever, more than one way to skin a cat, and a very good demo and lesson shared, thank you.
Been fabricating with metal for twenty or so years. Not a lot of body work, but enough to know that you make it look easy. I’ve used this method with fitting wood together using a thin saw blade, so when I saw you start explaining the angle of the cutoff wheel, my mind put off just a little bit of smoke. Nice work my friend and very nice video production👍
I feel bad, I've never done any panel repair, so I'll have this little trick in the bag if knowledge without ever having done it the hard way! Thanks!
Very helpful, thank you!
This is a great way to do patch panels. One thing I do differently is that I use the cut-off wheel on an angle to make a small cut through the sheet metal, after that I use an air saw which creates even a smaller gap that is easily welded.
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Just finished modifying some fenders for a trailer and it turned out like shit. Come home and watch the way I should have done it. Figures! I’ll nail it on the next set though. Thanks for posting 👍
I know the feeling mate gives me thevshits too i have patched panels in cars forbbyears and now i see howbto do itproperly mmo use to me nowtoo old and stupid but can always impress some one younger with my brilliance lol
Never though of doing it this way have always just cut straight in under my line and had a tight gap but trying to hold it in the right spot to tack it in place . definitely gona try this next time
My man spot welds without closing his eyes and grabs raw cut metal and yanks on it with his bare hands.
Stay thirsty my friends.
he closed his eyes, you cant see in these shots though
Don't try this at home. (welding like that.)
Ya got to cut pretty deep into an old fabricator to hit blood .
Also an old fabricator knows very very very well about eye safety from flash burn and flying particles .
@@krusher74
Closing your eyes you will still get inferred burns on your eyes and lids., plus no face shield you will get inferred burns on your face or whatever areas are not covered.
I've tried the close your eyes method and woke up the next day feeling like there was sand in my eyes and my eye lids were burned.
I learned the hard way , DON'T DO IT. But this is still a very good video.
Great video. Thanks
Your teaching abilities are such a pleasure to watch. I sat though the whole video then subscribed and I don't even do body work. Thanks