I got a burnese ruby from my partners mother shes had it for many many years in a vault and she made it into a gold ring for me in India. when i got it in america i was warned not to try to sell it. i stared at the rings for days! it was jus so beautiful and i took it to a jewlery store and they tried soooo hard for me to leave it with them to send out to their gemologist .. i refused and went home n decided no matter the worth of my beautiful stone just the fact it blows my mind and amazes me more than all my diamonds emerals and cartiers … is enough to not disapoint myself or have it taken away from me ..
I got a gorgeous large Ruby diamond ring at the Asian Garden mall. She said it is from Thailand. It is fluorescent in sunlight and has some visible inclusion. I love it so much. For me it is real. I really don’t care what ppl would say. I also got an emerald Ruby ring for $5000 from this same jewelry. That Ruby is pigeon blood and cut pear shape so beautiful.
When you said 'curved striations' I knew it was a flame fusion ruby. In bigger stones the pleocroism is very easy to see, that with double refraction under a loupe is pretty conclusive for me that I've got a lab ruby and not glass. The fluorescence of lab rubies is really striking making them look like they're glowing in broad daylight. I like the stuff. She got something really pretty for her $2.
2$ is worth still so cheap some of bigger websites selling synthetic rubies around 12 hundred dollars and more...I also bought many of them with in 10$ which is worth it and I proud to myself, real rubies 95% people can’t afford it ❤
Thanks , I was in the resale shop - the color of the two dollar necklace was - wonderfull - great red color ,clear , and the silver setting was too shinny. Silver onto platinum ...I'm still not positive ,but I forgot the u v. ...prolly lab ruby and tin coating over copper...I got a very good fake.5 years of geology and I'm still paying tuition...
@@gemstonelover3098 It was definitely a Synthetic Ruby. Red glass would have a different absorption spectrum, would be singly-refractive, and would show much more wear and tear since it is a softer stone. It also most likely would not fluoresce.
@@frankcastle4715 I am new to this and just facinated by it. I have one too that cost me under $3. It's real ruby, just obviously lab made. Many "reputable" dealers sell them here in the states for about half the cost of natural. Even at wholesale it's easy money if you are collecting or making rings or something. I just don't see how somebody in India can mail me a real ruby for the price? I mean it still has to be made in a lab, faceted and maild to the United States? Even if the Indian government pays for the mail service as some kind of an economic boost for the people, it still makes no f-ing sense...can you explain any of this to me? Thanks bro.
Ruby is my birthstone and I love to know where this came from so I can get one. $2 for a quality synthetic ruby such as this is definitely doable for me and a dream come true.
heck yes. You would have to pay for someone to create the setting for you. You could even go around allowing people to think it is the real thing. just dont try to sell it as if it is.
I have purchased several stones on eBay for as low as $0.99, up to about $12. There are a handful of sellers, often based in India, who move PILES of synthetic (real but lab-made) and/or fake (something other than what they claim) stones. I have gotten some nice deals, but I have also gotten some pretty bad frauds. 😅 Do some research and then buyer be ware.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I often come across gemstones that resemble emeralds and rubies but don't have the tools to validate weather they are genuine or not. Usually when they look too good to be true I assume they are.
I highly recommend GIA's Gem ID course. They teach you to evaluate and identify colored gemstones. It might come in handy in your line of work (or you can always ask me for help: gemswithgigi@gmail.com).
People no longer care about the beauty of an object but about its perceived value. It might look like shit, but if it costs a million dollars, everyone will be clapping in awe.
Yeah. I mean if it's chemically-speaking an actual ruby, but lab grown, who gives a shit? It's still fucking beautiful and without the fogginess of a real one. This isn't like fake gold which tarnishes or fake silver which lacks the whiteness and luster of real silver.
In my personal opinion, even simple glass can be made into a spectacual jewel. Gemcutting should be seen as an art form and the inherant value should be based on the artistic aspect of the jewel rather than the implied value being based on rarity of a natural stone. Having said that, its important to note that the artwork of mother nature transcends any human artist and some natural stones are as close to being magical as one could rationally discern. Still, no reason a carved or faceted piece of glass shouldnt be worth as much or more than a natural gem counterpart if crafted with love and passion. Glass is far less durable than corundum - this is the only logistic value of corundum beyond its natural beauty and variety. But if youre going to cut it apart and hide its original beauty you may as well use synthetic gems or glass. Let nature make her art appreciate it in its natural form. Who agrees?? 😁💎
@@dab0331 true, but if you want the spiritual benefits then its a different story, crystal therapy is real, different gems can have certain psychological benefits and effects.
I dont understand. Even if it were just glass the printed pvc card and cutting and processed ruby is still worth way more than 2$ plus shipping. ?? How much is it worth
I was given to very old rings that have ruby's in them. I took them to a jeweler to have an appraisal . The jeweler just looked at them with his eye nothing else. Told me the rings were very old. But made of glass. Then offered me $90. Should they have used instruments as you did?
Hi Gigi, thanks for the brilliant video. QQ which are the labs/certificates that you can trust without having to have a PhD in Gemology? Thanks from the UK
Synthetic Ruby and Natural Ruby are the same in chemical, hardness , density and red color but the red color on the natural ruby is with high contrast that's why the red color on the natural ruby is brighter and more beautiful than synthetic ruby.The people from ruby land,Mogoke,Myanmar(Burma) can know a natural ruby or synthetic ruby without any instrument or microscope or lens but only by their eyes from about 2 meters far away.
Red Mahaleo Ruby is a brown ruby that has been color treated to make it more red. By what I understand, brown rubies are not really rare like the red ones, so that is why you can get a treated brown ruby for so little money. I have not seen Mahaleo rubies that really have much transparency or brilliance. They seem to quite opaque and the red is more maroon and dark. They can still look nice, in a gold setting, but do not expect much flash from the stone.
My dad got my mom a promise ring in the 90s with a heart shaped ruby. It's redish pink and has a gold braided band. It's very pretty he says its real and only got it for 250 but I don't know if he got scammed or not It's also like a carat and some change. It was passed down to me so I'm trying to find this out
If someone were to make synthetic gemstones of high quality, and yet wanted to make sure that someone could not misrepresent the stone later, what could the maker dope the material with that would fluoresce under UV and yet look correct under natural light?
Hmm, this is actually a very difficult question, because the ingredient which makes a stone fluoresce under UV light is also usually the coloring agent that gives the stone its color under visible lighting. Ruby derives its red color from chromium. Chromium usually causes red fluorescence. See the problem? Adding an ingredient just to cause a UV reaction would inevitably change the regular color of the stone, as well. Thanks for watching, and for asking such a great question!
@@themanicuredminer7712 In fact, it is possible to include uv inhibiter to lower the fluorescence under uv in lab ruby. Usually, gemme ruby get a lower fluorescence than lab ruby. But this can be match. Bottom line, a well cut lab ruby cannot be identified by any gemologist without instruments. So.. why pay more?
Hello i am new newbie gemologist..can i have your help ?. Where can i buy a book with this index 5:14 ( minutes ) you hold some page with reference about gemstone absorbption .
Mine is part of a master's degree I did. However, there's a great book I recommend: www.amazon.com/Spectroscope-Gemmology-Basil-Anderson/dp/0943763525/ref=asc_df_0943763525/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312065538926&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5798318040628942432&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031315&hvtargid=pla-457498957563&psc=1
Most people aren't aware that most of the rubies and sapphires in jewelry stores are actually lab-grown anymore, and have been for decades, because natural ones, esp rubies, are so prohibitively expensive.
I create my own earrings. Would you find it strange if I were to set affordable synthetic (lab created) Rubies/Sapphires,etc in expensive settings such as White Gold, and or Platinum?
Not at all! Big jewelry companies do this all the time. A famous actress wore a huge and dramatic pair of Synthetic Sapphires set in white gold to a recent Academy Awards show!
Hello good day. Can I ask. about prices in Rubís since I bought. Ruby pigeon blood but I do not know what price they have for carats and I thank your information
@@themanicuredminer7712 do not worry. You know something very interesting. A few months ago I found a diamond. raw. over 2000 carats in the state of connecticut. I already checked it and everything I think is still in matrix due to the density. the conductivity is fine. hardness too. Now I know there is not even a diamond found in this country. and mine would be the first. Diamond. but I need access to the subject to be able to. sell it
So if it's synthetic, does it make it any less ruby? It's the same base materials, it's just the fusion process that's different, no? Just wondering as I actually prefer lab created sapphire as it's cleaner and usually larger gems with no inclusions
The Federal Trade Commission defines a synthetic gemstone as one that has *essentially* the same optical, physical, and chemical properties. A Synthetic Ruby is considered an actual Ruby, because, as you rightly said, it has the same ingredients, as well as the same appearance and characteristics (hardness, brilliance, etc). The only difference is the formation process, as well as its relative rarity. I prefer the look (and price) of big, clean, synthetic gems, too! Thanks for watching!
Synthetic Ruby is still Corumdum, still Ruby. I cant afford a natural anyway. Lol! Im more upset that the lapidary work is not good. This gives me another option as a gift for my Mom.
Thanks, you answered my question before I typed it. So synthetic ruby has the same chemical composition and hardness as a natural ruby? Around 9 on Moh's scale?
Very good review, just a question regarding gemstones selling in the US, is it possible to find customers if some one like want to sell gem stones, is their Government documentation needed or any form of license for selling gem stones. Please elaborate about that.
Tbh I worked for a gem cutter for years. If a gem gets cut wrong (trust me it happens and it's always shitty) it gets tossed and sold for basically nothing. Idk why it's not just cut into a smaller gem but it doesn't. They write up a report with them and everything that they are questionable quality
Hello I suppose a specific gravity test would also be good. I'm deployed and was told I was looking at a yellow diamond. The specific gravity test came up at 3.875. I'm thinking it is topazolite based on that. Thanks for you video. I'm watching more of your vids.
Rock Stomper >>Thanks for further info, the motto in gemstones - especially those bought in Asia and India is Buyer Beware! Some cultures are perfectly comfortable with 🤥 lying; no compunction whatsoever. Sad it has to be that way...
@@boomer1954ful Hello Gigi!! Well I just see markets always looking to maintain high margins. I have been bite by the gem bug pretty good. I'm stationed overseas and am learning and enjoying my experience with the gem markets out here. I hope you put out some new vids soon. Love watching your vids!! You look great!!!!!
Specific gravity tests are super useful! Although in this case, since Synthetic Ruby and natural Ruby share all the same chemical, physical, and optical properties, the SG would be the same for both natural and synthetic Rubies! Thanks for watching - keep collecting and learning!
Hey Kathleen! Thanks for your question. "lab-grown", "lab-created", and "synthetic" are all interchangeable and mean the same thing. Some rubies (and other colored gems...diamonds are different) can be created from natural ruby seeds, but most are created using just powdered ingredients. We do not differentiate with the words above, but a gemologist can tell which method was used by looking at the gemstone under a microscope or with other gemological testing tools. I hope this makes sense!
I wish she had commented on possible value for a synthetic stone that size. I have some stones, acquired in the same way, and I can’t seem to find out if they are even worth what I paid. I see synthetic stone at retail for a significant sum, but I suspect it’s a bit like a car. Buy new from a dealer for a fortune then sell it an hour later for 10% of what you paid.
dear i need your concultation about ruby and how to test a stone at home without a fancy tools cuz i dont have them? i will be glad if you answer me or if i can send the detail by email if u have one....thanks for your great video
I have a largish, lab grown, vintage (60's), ruby ring I bought for $500. Canadian, that I love. 😊My new colleagues were impressed. I then bought a ruby colour lipstick to go with it. ; )
Hallo I frome Aceh Indonesia I also have a single lump of a clear red ruby but it's small the size of a pomegranate seed. If I sell it, how much can it sell for?
Where could we see curved striation on surface of the stone or under the surface ? I bought rough material from tanzania big lot 3,4 stones are too good I thought it could be synthetic. I sent those 2 pieces to lab and they said it’s synthetic but i cant able to see curved lines . Kindly guide me if you could
hello good night I liked your video and I dare ask how I can know if the painite is real or true. I am a collector and I have three of this kind. I know they are very expensive but I got them at auction and another two pieces of painita are about to arrive.
thank you so much for making this video! You have such good energy and that I love how well you explain everything. I would love to show you some stones someday. What state are you located in?
The only thing that says it is a natural ruby is the documentation, which could also be fake just like that lab report. I would say people who pay a lot for a piece of paper are idiots.
I love Mozambique Rubies! And they often have the same intense color, "glow", and other qualities as the Burmese, but because they are from a lesser-known source, they can sometimes be 25% cheaper than a Burmese stone with the same size, color, clarity, etc.
It’s pretty easy to discern. Does you ruby have that curved banded pattern? If encountered a few good fakes where the company intentionally left carbon inclusions from their flame-fusion process to make it a little more convincing.
Sounds natural to me (not a question of real or fake, since both natural and synthetic stones are considered "actual" gems). But I would take it in to a jeweler or appraiser to make sure!
Just learning gemology, I have a few questions/observations. I have "heard", possibly incorect information that the typical value of Lab Created vs natural is about 40% less. If your friend bought this as natural, she was obviously lied to, however, if this was proven, as you did, that it is an actual ruby, even though lab created, is it not worth much more than she paid? Lastly, could you have also used a thermoelectric probe/gem tester to quickly see if it was stone vs glass and then a Chelsea Filter to verify if it is ruby? Asking because in watching other videos I see different people test with different tools. Thank you! I am interested to watch your show.
Great questions! First, the value of a lab-created stone varies widely depending on the type of gemstone and the synthesis process used, so your 40% estimate is not necessarily correct. This stone was made via the flame-fusion method, which is cheap and fast to create, so it is probably worth a few bucks a carat (though my friend ended up selling it for $300!). The price for synthetic diamonds, for example, keeps going down as they become easier to make and there’s a larger market for them, but generally, they cost about 80% of what a natural diamond costs…
Also, with regard to equipment, a thermoelectric probe only works on gems that conduct heat or electricity. Ruby and Glass would both have the same reaction, so you can’t use this tool to differentiate. A Chelsea filter is generally used for green stones like Jadeite (the presence of dye can make the stone appear red through the filter). There are a few other uses (it was originally created to differentiate between natural and synthetic Emeralds, but the synthetic technology has improved since then), but red stones do not give a reaction under this color filter.
I was not recommending a lab. Although I will do so now: I do recommend sending any large, important, or valuable stone to GIA (the Gemological Institute of America) for verification. They are the worldwide leader in gem ID.
What are the other benefits of the "expensive gemme" vs "2$ gemme"? -Same color, clarity and no inclusion -Same diffraction, fluorescence, refraction index, density and Mohs value (because they both are real ruby) -The 2$ version is not as precisely cut as the 1 500 000$ one (somehow, I can understand) -The 2$ version is more ecological (No digging, fuel, transformation... Less energy required to get it) -The 2$ version is more ethical (nobody fight his life in sub humain condition to get it) -You can wear the 2$ version every day, not a big drama is you break/lost/stolen The moral: "STOP WASTING MONEY ON EXPENSIVE RUBY!!!" 2$ for a 100% real ruby. A man made, sure, but a real ruby with all the same visual as "the expensive one".
Great points. The value in the natural variety stems from its rarity. One thing I'd like to point out is that the $2 version may not be more ecological, as the infrastructure, electricity, carbon footprint, etc. for the lab or factory to create the synthetic version may be significantly greater. If you care about being "green", you can look for a special logo on stones and jewelry that have been verified as green by an independent evaluation.
So how do I tell if my ruby set in 2 tones of gold. I've worn for 20 + years is real? It glows bright under blue UV light. (I am allergic to anything not gold silver or stainless steal.) It wasn't $2.00.
I recommend taking it to a local appraiser (and jewelry store can point you to one, or you can consult the National Association of Jewelry Appraisers, of which I am a proud member). They can easily tell you if its natural or synthetic (my guess is natural).
A gemologist? You know they have to pass their exam with 100%. What I gather from the information in this video is you're the natural gem. Okay, what do I win?
Well, yes and no. Gas bubbles inside a stone are a sure sign that it is manmade (with the exception of natural glass like Moldavite and Obsidian). However, some liquid inclusions or colorless crystals, which are both natural inclusions only found inside of natural stones, can sometimes LOOK like gas bubbles, if that makes sense.
@@themanicuredminer7712 I would like to know the process of identifying between fake anda glass filled rubies and real rubies. On top of that I would also like to know the difference between Spinel and a real ruby. Thanks in advance for your guidance.
This might be $2 but we can all agree it’s worth even if it’s synthetic. Its almost the perfect counterfeit. Only if they had the ability to create fractures as natural as they get. Which I’m sure someone had figured that out and makes a fortune.
Yes, this much I know. Rubies and sapphires are corundum. The differences are color due to minerals in the stone, and other things that I can't remember. Corundum can be found in a rainbow of colors (pink, yellow, green, purple, red or "ruby", blue...).
In the lab, pure corundum is clear. If they add a cromium salt, it will be red. They make all the colors. They can even make star sapphires and star rubies. They cost a few cents per carat on ebay.
Both natural and Synthetic Ruby would weigh the same amount. And we measure gemstones in carats. Carat is a standard measurement of weight. Five carats equal 1 gram. Both Ruby and Synthetic Ruby are quite dense, if that's what you mean!
US$2 with that type of synthetic ruby quality is really value for money.
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Haha so true! Sometimes the true value resides in the eyes of the beholder 💎😍
I’d like to think so. I got a 62ct stone today I paid about $4 for. Be nice if I could sell some day for enough to at least pay for lunch. 😅
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I got a burnese ruby from my partners mother shes had it for many many years in a vault and she made it into a gold ring for me in India. when i got it in america i was warned not to try to sell it. i stared at the rings for days! it was jus so beautiful and i took it to a jewlery store and they tried soooo hard for me to leave it with them to send out to their gemologist .. i refused and went home n decided no matter the worth of my beautiful stone just the fact it blows my mind and amazes me more than all my diamonds emerals and cartiers … is enough to not disapoint myself or have it taken away from me ..
I got a gorgeous large Ruby diamond ring at the Asian Garden mall. She said it is from Thailand. It is fluorescent in sunlight and has some visible inclusion. I love it so much. For me it is real. I really don’t care what ppl would say. I also got an emerald Ruby ring for $5000 from this same jewelry. That Ruby is pigeon blood and cut pear shape so beautiful.
When you said 'curved striations' I knew it was a flame fusion ruby. In bigger stones the pleocroism is very easy to see, that with double refraction under a loupe is pretty conclusive for me that I've got a lab ruby and not glass. The fluorescence of lab rubies is really striking making them look like they're glowing in broad daylight. I like the stuff. She got something really pretty for her $2.
Right. Its not a bad thing to have a created ruby for $2. How fun to pretend. Its the deception that is annoying.
I could not agree more! Sounds like you know your stuff. Thanks for watching!
@Kahel Diamante They do which is why they seems so bright but the fluorescence of lab rubies is stronger.
2$ is worth still so cheap some of bigger websites selling synthetic rubies around 12 hundred dollars and more...I also bought many of them with in 10$ which is worth it and I proud to myself, real rubies 95% people can’t afford it ❤
Thanks , I was in the resale shop - the color of the two dollar necklace was - wonderfull - great red color ,clear , and the silver setting was too shinny. Silver onto platinum ...I'm still not positive ,but I forgot the u v. ...prolly lab ruby and tin coating over copper...I got a very good fake.5 years of geology and I'm still paying tuition...
This was the best rundown on rubies I’ve seen, AND you probably just saved me about $200 on buying a gemstone analyzer - THANK YOU!!
$2 for a lovely looking synthetic is awesome!
Synthetic ruby cannot be sold with the price of US$ 2.It may be an a red glass.
The ruby sold with the price of US$ 2 may be a red glass but it cannot be a synthetic ruby.
@@gemstonelover3098 It was definitely a Synthetic Ruby. Red glass would have a different absorption spectrum, would be singly-refractive, and would show much more wear and tear since it is a softer stone. It also most likely would not fluoresce.
@@gemstonelover3098 Got one yesterday for $2 and it is absolutely corundum. Obviously lab made but still ruby.
@@frankcastle4715 I am new to this and just facinated by it. I have one too that cost me under $3. It's real ruby, just obviously lab made. Many "reputable" dealers sell them here in the states for about half the cost of natural. Even at wholesale it's easy money if you are collecting or making rings or something. I just don't see how somebody in India can mail me a real ruby for the price? I mean it still has to be made in a lab, faceted and maild to the United States? Even if the Indian government pays for the mail service as some kind of an economic boost for the people, it still makes no f-ing sense...can you explain any of this to me? Thanks bro.
Ruby is my birthstone and I love to know where this came from so I can get one. $2 for a quality synthetic ruby such as this is definitely doable for me and a dream come true.
heck yes. You would have to pay for someone to create the setting for you. You could even go around allowing people to think it is the real thing. just dont try to sell it as if it is.
I believe it was from e-Bay.
I have purchased several stones on eBay for as low as $0.99, up to about $12. There are a handful of sellers, often based in India, who move PILES of synthetic (real but lab-made) and/or fake (something other than what they claim) stones. I have gotten some nice deals, but I have also gotten some pretty bad frauds. 😅 Do some research and then buyer be ware.
@@themanicuredminer7712 well we can't find this $2 dollars synthetic ruby anymore. Did you hored them?
Is a synthetic ruby a real ruby? Do pawnshops accept them?
I was still hoping your friend won the gem lottery 😂
Great guide, thanks!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I often come across gemstones that resemble emeralds and rubies but don't have the tools to validate weather they are genuine or not. Usually when they look too good to be true I assume they are.
I highly recommend GIA's Gem ID course. They teach you to evaluate and identify colored gemstones. It might come in handy in your line of work (or you can always ask me for help: gemswithgigi@gmail.com).
Still for the price paid it would make a nice piece of jewellery
People no longer care about the beauty of an object but about its perceived value. It might look like shit, but if it costs a million dollars, everyone will be clapping in awe.
Yeah. I mean if it's chemically-speaking an actual ruby, but lab grown, who gives a shit? It's still fucking beautiful and without the fogginess of a real one. This isn't like fake gold which tarnishes or fake silver which lacks the whiteness and luster of real silver.
Plus it's a great story, right?!
In my personal opinion, even simple glass can be made into a spectacual jewel. Gemcutting should be seen as an art form and the inherant value should be based on the artistic aspect of the jewel rather than the implied value being based on rarity of a natural stone. Having said that, its important to note that the artwork of mother nature transcends any human artist and some natural stones are as close to being magical as one could rationally discern. Still, no reason a carved or faceted piece of glass shouldnt be worth as much or more than a natural gem counterpart if crafted with love and passion. Glass is far less durable than corundum - this is the only logistic value of corundum beyond its natural beauty and variety. But if youre going to cut it apart and hide its original beauty you may as well use synthetic gems or glass. Let nature make her art appreciate it in its natural form. Who agrees?? 😁💎
@@dab0331 true, but if you want the spiritual benefits then its a different story, crystal therapy is real, different gems can have certain psychological benefits and effects.
I dont understand. Even if it were just glass the printed pvc card and cutting and processed ruby is still worth way more than 2$ plus shipping. ?? How much is it worth
I was given to very old rings that have ruby's in them. I took them to a jeweler to have an appraisal . The jeweler just looked at them with his eye nothing else. Told me the rings were very old. But made of glass. Then offered me $90. Should they have used instruments as you did?
Hi Gigi, thanks for the brilliant video. QQ which are the labs/certificates that you can trust without having to have a PhD in Gemology?
Thanks from the UK
Synthetic ruby is not fake, just created in laboratory.
Wait, so if a near perfect quality ruby can be made syntheticly, why do people pay so much for it just because it came out of the ground?
Its all a big money making con.
@anguaa More fool them.
@anguaa actually for a lot of gems, it's not the rarity, but also the cut that factors into price
@@buntyjoy1800 agree! For example, many says diamond is expensive because of it's rarity while it's not rare at all! It's made scarced artificially!
Synthetic Ruby and Natural Ruby are the same in chemical, hardness , density and red color but the red color on the natural ruby is with high contrast that's why the red color on the natural ruby is brighter and more beautiful than synthetic ruby.The people from ruby land,Mogoke,Myanmar(Burma) can know a natural ruby or synthetic ruby without any instrument or microscope or lens but only by their eyes from about 2 meters far away.
at you site it mentioned, Red Mahaleo Ruby. what is it? Real or Lab created?
Red Mahaleo Ruby is a brown ruby that has been color treated to make it more red. By what I understand, brown rubies are not really rare like the red ones, so that is why you can get a treated brown ruby for so little money. I have not seen Mahaleo rubies that really have much transparency or brilliance. They seem to quite opaque and the red is more maroon and dark. They can still look nice, in a gold setting, but do not expect much flash from the stone.
My dad got my mom a promise ring in the 90s with a heart shaped ruby. It's redish pink and has a gold braided band. It's very pretty he says its real and only got it for 250 but I don't know if he got scammed or not It's also like a carat and some change. It was passed down to me so I'm trying to find this out
I like to see a comparison between rubies, red garnets and red glass.
'Me too'.I have a reddish stone in a silver pendant and i am just curious to find out.
Very clear description of your research. Thanks. Love the way you presented it.
Thank you! You made my day!
If someone were to make synthetic gemstones of high quality, and yet wanted to make sure that someone could not misrepresent the stone later, what could the maker dope the material with that would fluoresce under UV and yet look correct under natural light?
Rubies.
Hmm, this is actually a very difficult question, because the ingredient which makes a stone fluoresce under UV light is also usually the coloring agent that gives the stone its color under visible lighting. Ruby derives its red color from chromium. Chromium usually causes red fluorescence. See the problem? Adding an ingredient just to cause a UV reaction would inevitably change the regular color of the stone, as well. Thanks for watching, and for asking such a great question!
@@themanicuredminer7712 In fact, it is possible to include uv inhibiter to lower the fluorescence under uv in lab ruby. Usually, gemme ruby get a lower fluorescence than lab ruby. But this can be match.
Bottom line, a well cut lab ruby cannot be identified by any gemologist without instruments. So.. why pay more?
Hello i am new newbie gemologist..can i have your help ?. Where can i buy a book with this index 5:14 ( minutes ) you hold some page with reference about gemstone absorbption .
Mine is part of a master's degree I did. However, there's a great book I recommend: www.amazon.com/Spectroscope-Gemmology-Basil-Anderson/dp/0943763525/ref=asc_df_0943763525/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312065538926&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5798318040628942432&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031315&hvtargid=pla-457498957563&psc=1
Most people aren't aware that most of the rubies and sapphires in jewelry stores are actually lab-grown anymore, and have been for decades, because natural ones, esp rubies, are so prohibitively expensive.
I create my own earrings. Would you find it strange if I were to set affordable synthetic (lab created) Rubies/Sapphires,etc in expensive settings such as White Gold, and or Platinum?
Not at all! Big jewelry companies do this all the time. A famous actress wore a huge and dramatic pair of Synthetic Sapphires set in white gold to a recent Academy Awards show!
I want a leather pouch filled with these just because it would be cool
Me too!
Thank you for this! This was incredibly informative.
I'm so glad you found it useful. Thank you for watching!
And I have lot kind of colureful stones here can you pls send me a link where to talk to you abt how to tell there kind
Youre one of those teachers that are easy to pay attention to
Hello good day. Can I ask. about prices in Rubís since I bought. Ruby pigeon blood but I do not know what price they have for carats and I thank your information
Unfortunately, I am legally unable to give you advice on pricing information. Sorry!
@@themanicuredminer7712 do not worry. You know something very interesting. A few months ago I found a diamond. raw. over 2000 carats in the state of connecticut. I already checked it and everything I think is still in matrix due to the density. the conductivity is fine. hardness too. Now I know there is not even a diamond found in this country. and mine would be the first. Diamond. but I need access to the subject to be able to. sell it
So if it's synthetic, does it make it any less ruby? It's the same base materials, it's just the fusion process that's different, no? Just wondering as I actually prefer lab created sapphire as it's cleaner and usually larger gems with no inclusions
The Federal Trade Commission defines a synthetic gemstone as one that has *essentially* the same optical, physical, and chemical properties. A Synthetic Ruby is considered an actual Ruby, because, as you rightly said, it has the same ingredients, as well as the same appearance and characteristics (hardness, brilliance, etc). The only difference is the formation process, as well as its relative rarity. I prefer the look (and price) of big, clean, synthetic gems, too! Thanks for watching!
Synthetic Ruby is still Corumdum, still Ruby. I cant afford a natural anyway. Lol! Im more upset that the lapidary work is not good. This gives me another option as a gift for my Mom.
I could not agree more! Thanks for watching!
Thanks, you answered my question before I typed it. So synthetic ruby has the same chemical composition and hardness as a natural ruby? Around 9 on Moh's scale?
I couldn't pay attention, she is awesomely cute.. I Love your eyes.. 🌻🌻🌻
Were can sale are the natuaral red diamon are you buyeng
Very good review, just a question regarding gemstones selling in the US, is it possible to find customers if some one like want to sell gem stones, is their Government documentation needed or any form of license for selling gem stones. Please elaborate about that.
I have a ruby ring and I want to issue a certificate for the gem, how to do?
I learned a lot, thank you! Can you put a link to your spectroscope in the details?
Thank YOU for watching! Great idea to post a link to the spectroscope - I'll do that right now! :)
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Thank you so much for the GREAT information!
Thank YOU for watching! :)
Tbh I worked for a gem cutter for years. If a gem gets cut wrong (trust me it happens and it's always shitty) it gets tossed and sold for basically nothing. Idk why it's not just cut into a smaller gem but it doesn't. They write up a report with them and everything that they are questionable quality
Can you recommend a good make uv torch and magnifier for inspection ruby? Cheers!
I like the Way Too Cool UV light from www.fluorescents.com. Tell them Gigi sent you!
Fantastic work professor Gigi learnt so many things about a Ruby!!!
Thank you so much! I'm so glad I was able to teach you a thing or two!
@@themanicuredminer7712 knowledge is my food that I eat it never makes me fat or thin but keeps my brain ticking God bless
Are you still on JTV ? Do you have an Art channel?
I'd love to read that book where the sheet comes from... Foundations of Gemology. ♡
It's my course textbook from the Gemmological Association of Great Britain. It was a super hard degree, but worth it!
Hello I suppose a specific gravity test would also be good. I'm deployed and was told I was looking at a yellow diamond. The specific gravity test came up at 3.875. I'm thinking it is topazolite based on that. Thanks for you video. I'm watching more of your vids.
Rock Stomper >>Thanks for further info, the motto in gemstones - especially those bought in Asia and India is Buyer Beware! Some cultures are perfectly comfortable with 🤥 lying; no compunction whatsoever. Sad it has to be that way...
@@boomer1954ful Hello Gigi!! Well I just see markets always looking to maintain high margins. I have been bite by the gem bug pretty good. I'm stationed overseas and am learning and enjoying my experience with the gem markets out here. I hope you put out some new vids soon. Love watching your vids!! You look great!!!!!
Nothing to do with culture. Just look at certain American politicans.
Specific gravity tests are super useful! Although in this case, since Synthetic Ruby and natural Ruby share all the same chemical, physical, and optical properties, the SG would be the same for both natural and synthetic Rubies! Thanks for watching - keep collecting and learning!
Ok, lab grown is still seeded from real ruby right? And synthetic means it's made out of "other" materials?
Hey Kathleen! Thanks for your question. "lab-grown", "lab-created", and "synthetic" are all interchangeable and mean the same thing. Some rubies (and other colored gems...diamonds are different) can be created from natural ruby seeds, but most are created using just powdered ingredients. We do not differentiate with the words above, but a gemologist can tell which method was used by looking at the gemstone under a microscope or with other gemological testing tools. I hope this makes sense!
Thank you for that reply, makes sense
I wish she had commented on possible value for a synthetic stone that size. I have some stones, acquired in the same way, and I can’t seem to find out if they are even worth what I paid. I see synthetic stone at retail for a significant sum, but I suspect it’s a bit like a car. Buy new from a dealer for a fortune then sell it an hour later for 10% of what you paid.
Stop worrying about the value of the created stone. If you love it continue too.
Well, that value fluctuates, so I did not want to comment on it in my video. But I can tell you that my friend ended up selling this stone for $300!
@@themanicuredminer7712 Good heavens! … You wouldn’t happen to know who bought it and if they would want more, would ya? 😂
@@themanicuredminer7712 bought it for 2 bucks and sold it off for 300. Woah... I think she won
dear i need your concultation about ruby and how to test a stone at home without a fancy tools cuz i dont have them? i will be glad if you answer me or if i can send the detail by email if u have one....thanks for your great video
I have a largish, lab grown, vintage (60's), ruby ring I bought for $500. Canadian, that I love. 😊My new colleagues were impressed. I then bought a ruby colour lipstick to go with it. ; )
I actually quite like the synthetic rubies, just love the brilliance. They should sell them as is rather than pretend they're natural.
AMEN! Thanks for watching!
Can I wear ruby and cats eye together??
Hallo I frome Aceh Indonesia I also have a single lump of a clear red ruby but it's small the size of a pomegranate seed. If I sell it, how much can it sell for?
Super helpful. Finally. Thank you so much ❤️
Thank you for watching! I'm really glad that this video helped you!
Where could we see curved striation on surface of the stone or under the surface ?
I bought rough material from tanzania big lot 3,4 stones are too good I thought it could be synthetic. I sent those 2 pieces to lab and they said it’s synthetic but i cant able to see curved lines . Kindly guide me if you could
You would see them under magnification inside the stone.
I think you are the “Finest Source” for expertise on gyms. 😜
hello good night I liked your video and I dare ask how I can know if the painite is real or true. I am a collector and I have three of this kind. I know they are very expensive but I got them at auction and another two pieces of painita are about to arrive.
thank you so much for making this video! You have such good energy and that I love how well you explain everything. I would love to show you some stones someday. What state are you located in?
happy New Year. know you know. the price of the Burmese pigeon blood Rubis. by carat
Would you be able to identify a really good- lab grown ruby?
The only thing that says it is a natural ruby is the documentation, which could also be fake just like that lab report. I would say people who pay a lot for a piece of paper are idiots.
Yup. The telltale inclusions created by the synthesis process don't lie!
Gigi, Would you be willing to take a look at a few pieces i have ? Its a mix of opals, saphires, emeralds, and rubies
I have a tiger claw made with 24kt gold and a ruby set in it , found out it's from the Victorian era 1880-1900 .
Wow!!!
This is truly helpful especially for 1st time gem collectors. Thanks and more power!
Thank you! I'm so glad that it helped you! If you ever have any other gemstone questions, you can email me at gemswithgigi@gmail.com
@@themanicuredminer7712 could you tell me a website that you now selling natural ruby plz
What do you think about Mozambique ruby ??? Can an XRF machine check rubies ???
I love Mozambique Rubies! And they often have the same intense color, "glow", and other qualities as the Burmese, but because they are from a lesser-known source, they can sometimes be 25% cheaper than a Burmese stone with the same size, color, clarity, etc.
where are you located?
Outstanding. Explained with simplicity. Thank you.
Thank you for watching, and for the wonderful compliment!
Is your friend going to sue?
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LOL, nope.
Awesome description and video, thanks Timothy
Thanks for watching, Timothy!
Hi Gigi I need your opinion on some stones and diamonds
You can email me at gemswithgigi@gmail.com
If I ever found one what do I do!?
Take it to a jeweler or appraiser for identification.
Where can I get the illuminated loupe?
I purchased mine from Amazon!
i notiched numerous very tiny black sopts in my ruby and a smoke kind of thing inside the stone , so is it real or fake?
It’s pretty easy to discern.
Does you ruby have that curved banded pattern?
If encountered a few good fakes where the company intentionally left carbon inclusions from their flame-fusion process to make it a little more convincing.
Sounds natural to me (not a question of real or fake, since both natural and synthetic stones are considered "actual" gems). But I would take it in to a jeweler or appraiser to make sure!
Just learning gemology, I have a few questions/observations. I have "heard", possibly incorect information that the typical value of Lab Created vs natural is about 40% less. If your friend bought this as natural, she was obviously lied to, however, if this was proven, as you did, that it is an actual ruby, even though lab created, is it not worth much more than she paid?
Lastly, could you have also used a thermoelectric probe/gem tester to quickly see if it was stone vs glass and then a Chelsea Filter to verify if it is ruby? Asking because in watching other videos I see different people test with different tools.
Thank you! I am interested to watch your show.
She admitted it is a Ruby. So the value is huge!
Great questions! First, the value of a lab-created stone varies widely depending on the type of gemstone and the synthesis process used, so your 40% estimate is not necessarily correct. This stone was made via the flame-fusion method, which is cheap and fast to create, so it is probably worth a few bucks a carat (though my friend ended up selling it for $300!). The price for synthetic diamonds, for example, keeps going down as they become easier to make and there’s a larger market for them, but generally, they cost about 80% of what a natural diamond costs…
Also, with regard to equipment, a thermoelectric probe only works on gems that conduct heat or electricity. Ruby and Glass would both have the same reaction, so you can’t use this tool to differentiate. A Chelsea filter is generally used for green stones like Jadeite (the presence of dye can make the stone appear red through the filter). There are a few other uses (it was originally created to differentiate between natural and synthetic Emeralds, but the synthetic technology has improved since then), but red stones do not give a reaction under this color filter.
Gigi... you ROCK! Thank you so much for this wonderful and informative video. I enjoyed it very much.
How do I know I can trust her or her lab? She's literally denying credibility of another lab and advertising her own.
I was not recommending a lab. Although I will do so now: I do recommend sending any large, important, or valuable stone to GIA (the Gemological Institute of America) for verification. They are the worldwide leader in gem ID.
Gubelin Lab in Switzerland has even more of a rep for corundums than the GIA. Gubelin is quite pricey however, and a GIA paper/cert is good enough.
How to reach you maam for confidential matter
How do you teach a mini- soda ruby to speak Burmese?...asking for a" 2:21 friend"
I have three burma rubies and I don't know how to sell them!!!!
What are the other benefits of the "expensive gemme" vs "2$ gemme"?
-Same color, clarity and no inclusion
-Same diffraction, fluorescence, refraction index, density and Mohs value (because they both are real ruby)
-The 2$ version is not as precisely cut as the 1 500 000$ one (somehow, I can understand)
-The 2$ version is more ecological (No digging, fuel, transformation... Less energy required to get it)
-The 2$ version is more ethical (nobody fight his life in sub humain condition to get it)
-You can wear the 2$ version every day, not a big drama is you break/lost/stolen
The moral: "STOP WASTING MONEY ON EXPENSIVE RUBY!!!"
2$ for a 100% real ruby. A man made, sure, but a real ruby with all the same visual as "the expensive one".
Great points. The value in the natural variety stems from its rarity. One thing I'd like to point out is that the $2 version may not be more ecological, as the infrastructure, electricity, carbon footprint, etc. for the lab or factory to create the synthetic version may be significantly greater. If you care about being "green", you can look for a special logo on stones and jewelry that have been verified as green by an independent evaluation.
P.S. Thanks for watching!
So does it glow bright pink under direct UV light?
Yup (actually, it's more of a red).
So how do I tell if my ruby set in 2 tones of gold. I've worn for 20 + years is real?
It glows bright under blue UV light. (I am allergic to anything not gold silver or stainless steal.)
It wasn't $2.00.
I recommend taking it to a local appraiser (and jewelry store can point you to one, or you can consult the National Association of Jewelry Appraisers, of which I am a proud member). They can easily tell you if its natural or synthetic (my guess is natural).
@@themanicuredminer7712 would a picture help?
I have a stone about 18 carat and it real how much it cost? And are you buying it?
I am unable to supply pricing information. I'm so sorry!
Hello hello help me please I have many questions
Bought some rubies on an online estate sale. Hopefully theyre real but havent seen them in person yet
The stone passed most of the test for ruby and it’s still not a ruby in your point of view ?
It is an actual Ruby, but it is a synthetic one (that means it was created in a lab rather than mined from the earth).
great informational video! thank you!
Can we send u bunch of stuff for us to check please ?
My brother found a stone its color red its a "RUBY" or fake
A gemologist?
You know they have to pass their exam with 100%.
What I gather from the information in this video is you're the natural gem.
Okay, what do I win?
Is there any chance of a genuine ruby to have something that looks like bubble inside?
Well, yes and no. Gas bubbles inside a stone are a sure sign that it is manmade (with the exception of natural glass like Moldavite and Obsidian). However, some liquid inclusions or colorless crystals, which are both natural inclusions only found inside of natural stones, can sometimes LOOK like gas bubbles, if that makes sense.
@@themanicuredminer7712 gia have reported in their ruby specific books, gas bubbles in natural rubies.
Where can we talk
I have a ruby can u tell it's fake or real...I can send u video
YOU ARE SO PROFESSIONAL
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
I am from India and I hv some questions about the Identifikation of real rubies so, could you possibly help me out?
What would you like to know?
@@themanicuredminer7712 I would like to know the process of identifying between fake anda glass filled rubies and real rubies. On top of that I would also like to know the difference between Spinel and a real ruby. Thanks in advance for your guidance.
Loved your explanation.
Send me this ruby you have in your hand.
If you paid $750k for a $2 ruby!
You’d travel to Mars to litigate the bloody sale! Sorry.
LOL, #truth. Thanks for watching!
This might be $2 but we can all agree it’s worth even if it’s synthetic. Its almost the perfect counterfeit. Only if they had the ability to create fractures as natural as they get. Which I’m sure someone had figured that out and makes a fortune.
I agree that it has a value - my friend ended up selling the stone for $300!
Please i need to send you a photo of my stone
why didn't you use a UV light to see if it fluoresced
She used a laser of a wavelength close enough to UV to cause fluorescence. For checking a ruby it works just as well as a long-wave UV light.
I do if you watch a little further into the video.
Ruby and sapphire are the same?!
Yes, this much I know. Rubies and sapphires are corundum. The differences are color due to minerals in the stone, and other things that I can't remember. Corundum can be found in a rainbow of colors (pink, yellow, green, purple, red or "ruby", blue...).
In the lab, pure corundum is clear. If they add a cromium salt, it will be red. They make all the colors. They can even make star sapphires and star rubies. They cost a few cents per carat on ebay.
Very cool, thanks. ❤
Hi maam I just want to ask that real ruby is heavy
Both natural and Synthetic Ruby would weigh the same amount. And we measure gemstones in carats. Carat is a standard measurement of weight. Five carats equal 1 gram. Both Ruby and Synthetic Ruby are quite dense, if that's what you mean!
Actually Opal is the queen of gemstones. Ruby is the king
oooo great video! very informative