Just my two cents, I actually prefer when you talk over your gameplay rather than having a separate montage. Lets me appreciate the clips while also not interrupting the information flow. How it's done in this vid made me want to skip the gameplay to get to your thoughts.
@@FreshReviewsYT I disagree with the OP. Putting in out of context gameplay clips don’t add any value to what you are saying in the review unless they are directly related to some issue/topic. They are distracting more than anything.
After going through 20+ mice over the last 2 years, I got tired of searching for my end-game. So about 6 months ago, I chose to just force myself to use the GPX and even bought a second one since my OG one broke... Alot of pro's use it, and I knew a new iteration was coming out soon. Since the first 2 gpros were revolutionary, I was expecting the 3rd to be more of the same and getting more familiar with the shape seemed smart. With that being said, I am pretty disappointed. It seems like this mouse was built as a way for Logitech to stay relevant in the current market, instead of giving consumers the best possible product.
Zowie side buttons are amazing and I can't seem to find any other mouse that has something similar. GPX, Lamzu Atlantis, Finalmouse etc., they all have crap side buttons compared to Zowie.
Great review as always! Ordered it yesterday since my Zowie EC2-B is giving up on me and I always wanted to try the symmetrical shape of the GPX. I think this will be nice upgrade even if it is a bit expensive (179 euros here in Italy). Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!
I used an ec2-a before my viper ultimate , then i recently got the superlight 2 and i can confirm it does feel so good comparable to the ec2-a, so i think youd like it
@paul2609 higher polling rate chews more battery. So being 2khz and a longer battery life, that comes from the bigger battery. The same battery as the old one and running 2khz would be less battery life than the original, by a noticeable amount
The polling isn't going to do squat, having a polling rate that's 8X-10X your frame rate is all placebo. I've blind tested my 4000Hz wireless Razers that supports 1kHz, 2kHz and 4kHz .. all placebo. My only concern here is twofold: 1. I really like my hot swap PCB with TTC Dustproof Gold 60M switches and TTC Gold encoder, and I've been debating about buying a GPX custom painted by Colorware with Twilight Matte .. and it being clammy.
Definitely not worth the upgrade for me. I prefer lighter switches and snappy scroll wheel over 2k polling (which will increase CPU usage). Shame that they changed the glides since now I gotta stack up on the old ones before those go out of stock.
@@syzygy3107 Don’t remember claiming I had any issues with it, would be weird if my i7 12700KF did see a noticeable jump. Just stating facts since 1000mhz jump can cause slight increase in CPU usage on mid and low range parts like i5 12400. Then again, you probably shouldn’t be buying this expensive of a mice if you skimped on your other PC parts.
for 165 dollars usd i think im going to stick with the original superlight it doesnt really make a huge difference for me to spend more money for this upgrade its essentially the same mouse just with usb-c attached to it now which i think is great but thats really the only thing i'd want from a new mouse
Logitech fumbled on this 1, where i dont agree that the mouse should me sub 50 grams (i like the og superlight weight), the heaverier clicks, poor quality buttons, and the powerplay. this is not what i had in mind for the second iteration.
It’s more than one gram with skates and puck changed. But, I was just showing what it gets the weight to. Not advising to do it. I think if you’re going to open the mouse it would pay more to do more trimmings inside for more weight reduction and maybe a battery swap
Anyone maining the OG Raiden on the Superlight may just love this new upgraded version. I've been maining that pad again and it's sad the superlight has spinouts. I'm only assuming this wouldn't be an issue with the new sensor
It seems like this is a very easy mouse to mod to 50g, change battery to 300mah (gpx default battery) and cut the power play area... I wish it has lighter switches, I love my 50g gpx with japanese omrons
I like the new click feeling for the superlight as the superlight v1 was to soft of a click for me personally. Also, 2k polling rate is only good with mid-high end pc which can support it so from my testing too I only see a small performance gain. Hope they make a 4k polling rate dongle
@lostboy2637 Probably going to try the X2H small and the Atlantis mini 4k. I love my stock stakes on my OG 1st batch Atlantis but the mouse is just kinda wide.
The screws for the clicks were always exposed like that but there are two additional screws hidden under the battery. The new endoskeleton looks tiny compared to the old one and the side button deisgn looks the same...
Yea. Screws used to be covered by the battery and I believe you used to have to remove some of the skeleton to access them as well as the scroll wheel. It’s definitely been trimmed down with the side button structure remaining the same or similar
Ive been using wired mouse all my life. Was actually gonna buy my first wireless mouse soon. Was about to buy the g pro x superlight. But now im on the fence after watching your review and wondering if I should just get the g pro x superlight 2 instead.
@FreshReviewsYT thanks for the advice. I'm just a guy in his mid 30s just looking for a good gaming mouse for fps. Budget is not an issue. Just never really upgraded my gear until it breaks. Thanks again for the advice man and nice channel.
do you think ring sensor skate from superlight fit onto superlight 2 ring or nah? ill prolly pick one up just cus my OG superlight feels like its dying a little bit. rip :(
Hey can you review the Corsair virtuoso pro? It's a open back 'gaming' headset and I would like to see how it compares to most other open back headphones out there
Ever thought about upgrading that scale of yours to something that can do hundredth scale? Just a thought I had. Also, I'd really like to try out the GPX shape but for the price of the GPX 2... I would have to wait for bestbuy to add them to their 20% off logitech recycling coupon program that they run a few times during the year. $160 is a hard ask for its feature set compared the v1.
Gpx 2 and x2h small / x2v2 medium are close for number one. Tough picking between them. The next slot would be a toss up between the xm2w and rog harpe ace and then the Atlantis. The xm2w shape just works slightly better for me than the Atlantis. The harpe ace is long but feels good to me. I have fun swapping to it every so often
@@paul2609 All mouse opinion are subjective. If we are on objective performance which is the best mouse razer dav3 pro and viper v2 pro has that already.
The left and right clicks are horrible! I did several online click speed test CPM and my CPMs were consistently higher with all my old mice compared to this mouse. Returned after a week…
Fresh you're the man when it comes to gaming/audio gear. I can't believe you haven't done a closed back headphone video. My dt770 pro 80ohm (amazing price/performance for gaming but harsh in some hz and cause fatigue quickly) just crapped out on me and I've had a nasty accident so I'll be bed bound for a year+. If you had $300-$800+ do you have a recommendation? I've bought an IEM per your videos to see me through until you reply but I don't like the ear plug experience. I'm playing apex/hunt showdown primarily. I trust your judgement entirely and my hd560s are retired until I don't need all this noisy medical equipment in my room. Keep doing what you're doing. You're going places and i cant wait for you to get more recognition. 💪❤️
@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks my guy! Life can be a mfer but I beat cancer at 11 so I've got this in the bag. Heard great things about them but some say it's a 770 with a mic so had me weary of a sidegrade. They could be very wrong. Eagerly anticipating your response.
Is the raw mouse input (beta) thing turned on? If it is, could be a cpu issue. Might need to upgrade. I have a 5800x3d/5900x and never had issues with 8k
@@HbkRick maybe updating the bios can help? Also w11 had an update not too long ago that fixed stuttering for 2k-8k. So if you’re on w10 the I suggest updating to w11 if you really want to use higher polling rate.
Since none of the pros will do it and you’re not an Apex pro or not anymore can you please tell the secret to how the hell you shoot so straight with no recoil. Everyone says straif one-way shoot the other but I can find 1000 clips of people not doing that and still having no recoil or standing still. (I do love the review videos though keep it up.)
Since you used to main both the Prime and Prime Mini, how would you compare the clicks to those mice? There seems to be a lot of variability, since I've heard people say they are as heavy as Prime clicks, but also heard people say they feel the same as later batch GPXs.
I have the superlight 2 and I noticed that your mouse skates are custom. I was wondering what kind of skates you would recommend because I find it difficult to keep the mouse still after stopping to aim. Could you recommend me some skates that would help keep the mouse still when I snap aim? High dynamic friction is what I would like to look into but there aren't any skates available on amazon for the superlight 2
Hey man! Very random question. How did you do that handprint design on your OG Superlight? I wanna do something similar on my Deathadder with my sons hand but I don’t want to ruin the mouse lol also does it affect the feel in any way?
This is a disappointment for me. My gpro superlight 2 has a shit scroll wheel and side buttons and they didn't upgrade/fix it. So this is a hard pass for me. I ended up going for a g pro scroll wheel to fix 1of the 2 problems couldn't find a solution for the side buttons 😢
The clicks are just as bad as Razers optical switches. In actual fact optical switches will in general feel more stiff and louder than most standard Omron or Huano switches.
who told them this is an upgrade LUL this is downgrade of the product I just canceled my order and ordered they OG coz it's smooth to spam unlike the new one
Hey Fresh, knowing how you don't like the stock mouse skates on the GPX, what PTFE skates would you recommend? I play valorant mainly and use an Artisan Zero soft so i dont want glass skates, I would love any solid recommendations from you.
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Just my two cents, I actually prefer when you talk over your gameplay rather than having a separate montage. Lets me appreciate the clips while also not interrupting the information flow. How it's done in this vid made me want to skip the gameplay to get to your thoughts.
nice to know, thanks for the input. I do pay attention to it, so i appreciate it
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I second this, it makes the video a lot more entertaining
@@FreshReviewsYT I disagree with the OP. Putting in out of context gameplay clips don’t add any value to what you are saying in the review unless they are directly related to some issue/topic. They are distracting more than anything.
@@jaydee499most people don't want to watch some random gameplay montage because there's literally no info that can be gained from thst
Superlight 2k would have been perfect. 👍
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Thanks for this review. I recently got the OP1we and fell in love but was still on the fence about the Superlight2. This settles it. EGG for life.
Detailed review as always, the gpro 2 is not really surprising but enjoyed the review!
After going through 20+ mice over the last 2 years, I got tired of searching for my end-game. So about 6 months ago, I chose to just force myself to use the GPX and even bought a second one since my OG one broke... Alot of pro's use it, and I knew a new iteration was coming out soon. Since the first 2 gpros were revolutionary, I was expecting the 3rd to be more of the same and getting more familiar with the shape seemed smart. With that being said, I am pretty disappointed. It seems like this mouse was built as a way for Logitech to stay relevant in the current market, instead of giving consumers the best possible product.
Zowie side buttons are amazing and I can't seem to find any other mouse that has something similar.
GPX, Lamzu Atlantis, Finalmouse etc., they all have crap side buttons compared to Zowie.
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Great review as always!
Ordered it yesterday since my Zowie EC2-B is giving up on me and I always wanted to try the symmetrical shape of the GPX. I think this will be nice upgrade even if it is a bit expensive (179 euros here in Italy).
Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!
The more I use it the more I love it. Hope your copy is perfect!
I used an ec2-a before my viper ultimate , then i recently got the superlight 2 and i can confirm it does feel so good comparable to the ec2-a, so i think youd like it
500mah battery? Damn that is 11g vs 5.6G from GPX1. You could get like 52g easily
I guess its due to the 2khz polling
@@JagsP95optical switches
@paul2609 higher polling rate chews more battery. So being 2khz and a longer battery life, that comes from the bigger battery. The same battery as the old one and running 2khz would be less battery life than the original, by a noticeable amount
I enjoyed the gameplay montage. I enjoyed the review as well. Keep up the great work. The song during the montage was also soothing 😊
The polling isn't going to do squat, having a polling rate that's 8X-10X your frame rate is all placebo. I've blind tested my 4000Hz wireless Razers that supports 1kHz, 2kHz and 4kHz .. all placebo. My only concern here is twofold: 1. I really like my hot swap PCB with TTC Dustproof Gold 60M switches and TTC Gold encoder, and I've been debating about buying a GPX custom painted by Colorware with Twilight Matte .. and it being clammy.
Oh believe me. I’m with ya. I was probably the first to express my opinions regarding the underwhelming performance “gain” if any with higher polling
That gray/orange G303 looks amazing.
Definitely not worth the upgrade for me. I prefer lighter switches and snappy scroll wheel over 2k polling (which will increase CPU usage).
Shame that they changed the glides since now I gotta stack up on the old ones before those go out of stock.
You must have a CPU from 1886 morden CPUs don't have a issue for 2000 polling rate looool.
@@syzygy3107 Don’t remember claiming I had any issues with it, would be weird if my i7 12700KF did see a noticeable jump. Just stating facts since 1000mhz jump can cause slight increase in CPU usage on mid and low range parts like i5 12400. Then again, you probably shouldn’t be buying this expensive of a mice if you skimped on your other PC parts.
I see that Logitech, is still keeping the after-market skate's companies in business.
for 165 dollars usd i think im going to stick with the original superlight it doesnt really make a huge difference for me to spend more money for this upgrade its essentially the same mouse just with usb-c attached to it now which i think is great but thats really the only thing i'd want from a new mouse
Logitech fumbled on this 1, where i dont agree that the mouse should me sub 50 grams (i like the og superlight weight), the heaverier clicks, poor quality buttons, and the powerplay. this is not what i had in mind for the second iteration.
why would i want to void my warranty and open my mouse just to reduce the weight by 1 gram lol
It’s more than one gram with skates and puck changed. But, I was just showing what it gets the weight to. Not advising to do it. I think if you’re going to open the mouse it would pay more to do more trimmings inside for more weight reduction and maybe a battery swap
Anyone maining the OG Raiden on the Superlight may just love this new upgraded version. I've been maining that pad again and it's sad the superlight has spinouts. I'm only assuming this wouldn't be an issue with the new sensor
It seems like this is a very easy mouse to mod to 50g, change battery to 300mah (gpx default battery) and cut the power play area... I wish it has lighter switches, I love my 50g gpx with japanese omrons
came from the omron, they are an amazing feeling switch - but you get used to these very quickly too and they get lighter as you break them in.
I like the new click feeling for the superlight as the superlight v1 was to soft of a click for me personally. Also, 2k polling rate is only good with mid-high end pc which can support it so from my testing too I only see a small performance gain. Hope they make a 4k polling rate dongle
I don't think I still could ever switch back to the superlight. I just love the XM2W shapes too much
Love it also
too bad XM2WE is never releasing
@@lostboy2637 Lamzu and Pulsar is good enough for me
@lostboy2637 Probably going to try the X2H small and the Atlantis mini 4k. I love my stock stakes on my OG 1st batch Atlantis but the mouse is just kinda wide.
Somewhat underwhelming, especially after owning a few different copies of the GPX for me - I guess I'll wait for the newer batches of the X2V2/X2H :D
The screws for the clicks were always exposed like that but there are two additional screws hidden under the battery. The new endoskeleton looks tiny compared to the old one and the side button deisgn looks the same...
Yea. Screws used to be covered by the battery and I believe you used to have to remove some of the skeleton to access them as well as the scroll wheel. It’s definitely been trimmed down with the side button structure remaining the same or similar
3:24 you're saying it as if they made a mouse specifically for people modding their mice
Great skill 👍🏻
The OW2 of gaming mice.
Ive been using wired mouse all my life. Was actually gonna buy my first wireless mouse soon. Was about to buy the g pro x superlight. But now im on the fence after watching your review and wondering if I should just get the g pro x superlight 2 instead.
If you’ve never had a gpx, I’d probably just go for the 2 unless budget is a concern.
@FreshReviewsYT thanks for the advice. I'm just a guy in his mid 30s just looking for a good gaming mouse for fps. Budget is not an issue. Just never really upgraded my gear until it breaks. Thanks again for the advice man and nice channel.
do you think ring sensor skate from superlight fit onto superlight 2 ring or nah? ill prolly pick one up just cus my OG superlight feels like its dying a little bit. rip :(
Hey can you review the Corsair virtuoso pro? It's a open back 'gaming' headset and I would like to see how it compares to most other open back headphones out there
Same mouse but different internals. Not worth 170€ specially if you already have gpx.
Ever thought about upgrading that scale of yours to something that can do hundredth scale? Just a thought I had.
Also, I'd really like to try out the GPX shape but for the price of the GPX 2... I would have to wait for bestbuy to add them to their 20% off logitech recycling coupon program that they run a few times during the year. $160 is a hard ask for its feature set compared the v1.
100% agree
When will be new iem video will be uploaded
And today's video was great if you expand the time of game play it will be much better for me
How would you rank the GPX2 vs X2H vs Atlantis 2 vs XM2W vs ROG Harpe Ace (if you’ve tried it)?
You are asking a very subjective question
@@paul2609 and I expect a very subjective response. I asked for his opinion, not a universal truth of which is better.
Gpx 2 and x2h small / x2v2 medium are close for number one. Tough picking between them. The next slot would be a toss up between the xm2w and rog harpe ace and then the Atlantis. The xm2w shape just works slightly better for me than the Atlantis. The harpe ace is long but feels good to me. I have fun swapping to it every so often
@@paul2609
All mouse opinion are subjective. If we are on objective performance which is the best mouse razer dav3 pro and viper v2 pro has that already.
The left and right clicks are horrible! I did several online click speed test CPM and my CPMs were consistently higher with all my old mice compared to this mouse. Returned after a week…
If you want something with nice fast clicks, beast x
5:30 bgm made me feel like I am not watching a mouse review, made me feel like my fatass should go for a run or something.
Fresh you're the man when it comes to gaming/audio gear. I can't believe you haven't done a closed back headphone video. My dt770 pro 80ohm (amazing price/performance for gaming but harsh in some hz and cause fatigue quickly) just crapped out on me and I've had a nasty accident so I'll be bed bound for a year+. If you had $300-$800+ do you have a recommendation? I've bought an IEM per your videos to see me through until you reply but I don't like the ear plug experience. I'm playing apex/hunt showdown primarily. I trust your judgement entirely and my hd560s are retired until I don't need all this noisy medical equipment in my room. Keep doing what you're doing. You're going places and i cant wait for you to get more recognition. 💪❤️
Damn brother! Hope you recover quickly. I did like the mmx300, but I’ll try to see if I can find a better closed back for you
@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks my guy! Life can be a mfer but I beat cancer at 11 so I've got this in the bag. Heard great things about them but some say it's a 770 with a mic so had me weary of a sidegrade. They could be very wrong. Eagerly anticipating your response.
I get really bad stuttering in valorant with 2k polling rate enabled. Not sure what to do to fix it!
Could be a myriad of issues including your cpu, usb slot etc.
Is the raw mouse input (beta) thing turned on? If it is, could be a cpu issue. Might need to upgrade. I have a 5800x3d/5900x and never had issues with 8k
@@HeyNavi I’m running a 5900x
Gonna try changing usb slots
@@HbkRick maybe updating the bios can help? Also w11 had an update not too long ago that fixed stuttering for 2k-8k. So if you’re on w10 the I suggest updating to w11 if you really want to use higher polling rate.
Good review as usual. Seems I will keep my Superlight 1 then
Since none of the pros will do it and you’re not an Apex pro or not anymore can you please tell the secret to how the hell you shoot so straight with no recoil. Everyone says straif one-way shoot the other but I can find 1000 clips of people not doing that and still having no recoil or standing still. (I do love the review videos though keep it up.)
Hahaha that’s just hours and hours of gameplay tbh. Practice practice practice
Are you gonna update the top mice picks with all these new drops?
Not a bad idea
Nicely done, champ! What are those dots for skates? I’m planning to change my skates for all my mice.
These are the esptiger ice v2 dots - my favorite currently. Have them on almost everything
tysm :D @@FreshReviewsYT
Great video!
ty!
Since you used to main both the Prime and Prime Mini, how would you compare the clicks to those mice? There seems to be a lot of variability, since I've heard people say they are as heavy as Prime clicks, but also heard people say they feel the same as later batch GPXs.
They’re two ticks heavier than my new batch gpx. They’re similar to kailh 4.0s. Not as light as pulsar’s but not too far either.
dude you are a dragger on apex please share your dpi and mouse sensitivity settings
800 dpi 1.5
@@FreshReviewsYT ooooh I’m going to try this asap been rocking 1600 .9 with mouse acceleration because I lack chromosomes
*fragger
I have the superlight 2 and I noticed that your mouse skates are custom. I was wondering what kind of skates you would recommend because I find it difficult to keep the mouse still after stopping to aim. Could you recommend me some skates that would help keep the mouse still when I snap aim? High dynamic friction is what I would like to look into but there aren't any skates available on amazon for the superlight 2
Hey, I found the superlight 2 skates on their website. Sucks their not on amazon yet though.
Sorry I can't keep up with all your videos... What's YOUR absolute top mouse pick for FPS?
I can’t really say I have a top mouse but I do have a top 3 that I swap between
@@FreshReviewsYT Do you mind sharing which ones and why you switch between them?
Shoulda been 50 grams or less and we would have all been happy for another 3 years.
I’m thinking just magnets out and battery mod can probably take it further to 52ish
@@FreshReviewsYT I think Logitech engineering needs to write you a check for $150k for that advice TBH
Hey man! Very random question. How did you do that handprint design on your OG Superlight? I wanna do something similar on my Deathadder with my sons hand but I don’t want to ruin the mouse lol also does it affect the feel in any way?
I got it done by nacho customz! Check him out on Twitter.
If you get it done send me a pic how it looks!
I want it!! I need it!!! I need to have it!!
Is there a lump on the right side of your mouse?
This is a disappointment for me. My gpro superlight 2 has a shit scroll wheel and side buttons and they didn't upgrade/fix it. So this is a hard pass for me. I ended up going for a g pro scroll wheel to fix 1of the 2 problems couldn't find a solution for the side buttons 😢
Hit up nacho he might have a solution for the side buttons
@@FreshReviewsYT will do
here we go
how do the clicks compare to Razer's current optical switches?
The clicks are just as bad as Razers optical switches. In actual fact optical switches will in general feel more stiff and louder than most standard Omron or Huano switches.
Which skates are these? I’d like to change mine out as well and there’s not many options available yet unfortunately 😒
These are the tiger ice v2 dots
Thank you!@@FreshReviewsYT
Hi, where can I order these? The Logitech website says it's coming soon.
Amazon
Will this new superlight be your new main over Vaxee XE ?
Toss up tbh. Both are in my top 5
you honestly ask a mouse reviewer if he is going to " main " a mouse?
who told them this is an upgrade LUL this is downgrade of the product I just canceled my order and ordered they OG coz it's smooth to spam unlike the new one
Nice.
This got an update for 4k, did you get to try it out?
Yes
@@FreshReviewsYT did you release a video or short for it? Any comments?
@@Ivanical not yet, but it feels good enough for me.
Does anyone have any idea of when corepads skates will be released for gpx 2?
If I had to guess the turn around will be super quick.
worth upgrading from the original gpro?
if you don't care about the price tag and want a sensor that feels delicious at 2k hz sure!
Should i use 1000 or 2000 hz
Might as well use 2000 if your pc runs fine
its better just to get a differnet mouse
If the shape of something else works better
This or Pulsar X2V2 / 2H?
Really going to boil down to shape preferences. The pulsar stuff is super good
Since you already opened the mouse, is there a way to change the new switches to lighter ones?
Hey Fresh, knowing how you don't like the stock mouse skates on the GPX, what PTFE skates would you recommend? I play valorant mainly and use an Artisan Zero soft so i dont want glass skates, I would love any solid recommendations from you.
core skates.
damn! @6:38 top athlete!
haha
just bought one lfgggg
LFG!
What kind of skates are those dot skates?
I love Gps2.
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Which skates do you use?
Tiger ice v2 dots
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What skates are the dots?
Tiger ice v2
@@FreshReviewsYT my man, thank you. Would these be good on an Aqua Control 2? Trying to find skates for replacing the SL2 skates.