I'm a longtime Triumph owner and fanboy. IMHO, Triumph took a hardcore middleweight sports bike and made it a manageable, affordable street sports bike. I am not in the demographic for that class of bike, but I can see why they did it.
Agreed, though I do dig the ergonomics much more than the 675. I am interested to see this bike in 1-2 years, with all the mods that will be out for it (adjustable suspension, tuning, better brakes, etc) Id wish they do a 660R that comes with all the more premium stuff
Whenever you see 93.9hp, you can be sure that it is solely for A2 license conversion. Because it is illegal to convert everything higher than 94hp to A2.
I'm happy to see that Triumph hasn't abandoned the Daytona model. I'm hoping they bring out a 660R with some Ohlins suspension and Brembo brakes, because why not; have the option.
The 600 supersport era was certainly a highlight in my biking career, a screaming 4 cylinder engine pushing out anywhere between 90 and 100hp was all you needed for maximum grin factor. At that time I was in my early thirties and a light weight easily capable of moulding myself around such machines and riding around all day long. It’s great to see manufacturers venturing somewhat back towards this class of machine enabling younger riders to experience such. Now I’m in my sixties I ride a RT 1250 which suits me very well however I still think back to those times pretending to be Colin Edward’s or Aaron Slight with much fondness. Thanks Scott 👍
Yea nobody does trackdays… its like maybe %5 of the riders and its very very occasional. Buying a bike to do trackday once every couple months is not feasible. Every year, world getting more crowded but roads are not getting bigger, also speed limits not increasing either… and dont forget that with technology its getting easier to get tickets and fines. Motorcycle evolution has its own bell curve… the aim was to create more power with less weight at first but seems like we passed that phase because its getting meaningless, you cant ride a h2turbo on a public road and push to the limits (legally). So now instead of pushing for more power, brands are pusher for more users with more manageable vehicles. For that money, that is still a weaponlile vehicle…
@@NothingToProve ofcourse you would know a lot of guys... but what percentage do they represent in the entire group of bike owners? ıf it was too high, brands would know it by market research and plan their production accordingly. Now people want to seem like they are racers but they also feel comfortable and pay less because they sadly earn less :(
I get why Triumph did what they did on this bike. I just wouldve been more creative and named it something other than a daytona. As they were hoping to get both new riders and legacy daytona fans. It unfortunately in its current form will just please newer riders imo. That all said im not into sports bikes. Ive got mainly classics and a ducati monster.
I didn't understand this bike as soon as it came out. 660 powertrain, non-adjustable fork, Trident chassis basis... This model makes more sense to me if it was a fully faired version of the Street Triple RS, OR, they made a faired version of the Trident and title it as such. This is just an insult to the Daytona nameplate to make sales. You're honestly better off with a Honda CBR650R because you get Honda reliability, an extra cylinder, and in my opinion, a cooler bike. That being said, a Street Triple RS is God-tier performance for it's class
I come from the era when my 69 BSA Rocket 3 put out less than 60 horsepower. It averaged over 131 mph for 500 miles at Daytona . All of my pre 75 Trident’s except for my 72 big bore put out less than 80 horsepower. It’s amazing the power output they are getting out of the small motors now!
I think the bike looks good and the legendary triple sounds fantastic. Haven't ridden one (I have been on a Tiger 900), but would like to. At 63 years old, I would contemplate adding one to my garage for quick sprints through the curvy canyons and mountains near my home in southern California.
The Kawasaki Ninja is available in 125cc 250cc 300cc 400cc 600cc 636cc 1000cc, I think Triumph deserve some credit for not just cutting into new territory but actually giving a respectable option in the middleweight road sport class that doesn't require bike yoga and the name implies the bloodline which the bike does portray via it's obvious DNA styling cues and refined mechanics
Just came back from a Daytona 660 test ride, and I have to say it's on my short list, and this is coming from a former Street Triple 765R owner. This bike is a bit friendlier, is just gorgeous, and very well put together. This engine and chassis you can enjoy a bit more on the street and push it a bit harder without getting too far outside of extralegal territory. Would love an RS version with a full compliment of Brembos front and back and an adjustable front fork. (I feel it would put it in Street Triple pricing territory though if they did that)
Its a nice bike and good in the new softsport section. I like this category if you can only have 1 bike. My only issue with the Daytona is they forgot on sports bike you need to paint the rear of the bike also. In Black its ok, but in White it stands out so bad. Also the dash is very outdated on a 2024 bike. Nice review.
I feel like this is Triumph’s turn to get what Yamaha received with the R7 launch. Just as “older” riders knew the original YZFR7 and saw the new R7 as a poor rebirth of the name, the same will be said of the Daytonas long gone and reborn. Alternatively, “newer” riders who may have never experienced the original Daytona may find familiarity with the name alone may love it for what it is, same as current R7 riders. IMO it’s a bit of a miss, I’m also not the target market as my current hunt is for a R1200/1250RS, but newer riders might find exactly what they’re looking for
Bro! That's literally my thought process. Freakin' bewildering how no one thinks it's an exact mirror reaction of yamaha. But I'm excited. I'll be getting it as a second bike.
Great review Scott! I don’t mind the drone! It’s new tech giving another perspective & dimension! Just make sure it doesn’t attack you😉! Have you ridden the Suzuki GSX-8R? You liked the 8S!
Na, not yet, I am planning on it but the riding position of these bikes are getting to the point to where I just don't want to ride them at all, even for just a few hours and it changes my demeanour and out come of the video. So yes, I liked the 8S but that was an upright "naked" riding position, the 8R is a lot more leaned over like this one. So, I don't know maybe this summer when I'm running out of 2024 bikes to ride😒😢😊
Genau so hatte ich die "Daytona" nur nach Datencheck und nach Optik eingeschätzt, als langweiliges Anfängermotorrad mit wenig Performance, zu hohem Gewicht und zu teuer für das, was sie bietet. Sowas Daytona zu nennen ist eine Frechheit von Triumph. Da kann man sich auch gleich ne Honda CBR650R holen, genau dieselbe Kategorie, sieht besser aus und Honda ist bekannt für Zuverlässigkeit, die Wartungskosten sind auch niedriger als bei Triumph sowie Ersatzteile leichter verfügbar. Für Anfänger, die unbedingt den Look eines Sportlers wollen, aber sicher nicht uninteressant. Ich bleibe bei meiner Honda CB750 Hornet, meiner Meinung nach das beste, spaßigste und vielseitigste Motorrad, das derzeit auf dem Markt ist und das immer noch zu einem Schnäppchenpreis.
I did the math and Daytona is second in power to weight ratio: 0.2119638826 HP/lbs Order from best to worst: rs660, daytona 660, cbr650r, gsx-8r, r7, ninja 650.
It is not a bad bike but the problem is the name they gave it is associated with an out-and-out sports bike which creates a level of expectation when you get on it. It's also a young person's bike. It looks like it has Kawasaki Ninja 650 ergonomics.
I just couldn't take the riding position and wind noise any longer while I had it out, so I skipped it. I guess this type of riding position is just not for me any more. I'm getting too old...I guess.
I saw this bike drive past me in town the other day. I thought it was a sweet looking bike I had to do a double take tomsee what it was and saw the triumph logo.
You confirmed my first impression from the Bern motorcycle show: the seating position is not comfortable in the long run. I did an hour long test drive with the Suzuki GSX 8R and found that very good, though the suspension is a bit harsh. The same shop also had a Moto Guzzi V7 Corsa, and that's my bike after all!
That's one of the reasons why I did not do the R7 last year and will not do any of the other bikes in this class. The other reason is that I'm just too old to ride these bikes anymore...sigh.
This is a little more exciting (triple motor vs. the inline 2 180 degree firing order), and the looks of this is up-to-date, Ninja needs a face lift, imho.
Kawi is a good bike, but that parallel twin sound is terrible. Only thing that can make it bearable is a Yoshi pipe, if you are lucky and it is legal in your country.
The more and more I look at the bike and do the research now that people are actually getting their hands on the bike. The more I like it. Only thing I'm getting is if it was called anything other than a Daytona, it'd be a phenomenal bike. And I'd say that's not nearly enough to hate on the bike. Great review
The styling of the bike is great and definately a step forward for Triumph. However it's under powered, i'm not sure how much it weighs but for a 660cc it should be producing arount 120bhp I think to keep it in line with other bikes
I'm a longtime Triumph owner and fanboy. IMHO, Triumph took a hardcore middleweight sports bike and made it a manageable, affordable street sports bike. I am not in the demographic for that class of bike, but I can see why they did it.
I'm the demographic for this bike. I don't want to pay a lot up front because I wanna put in my own better parts later. This bike is perfect.
Agreed, though I do dig the ergonomics much more than the 675.
I am interested to see this bike in 1-2 years, with all the mods that will be out for it (adjustable suspension, tuning, better brakes, etc)
Id wish they do a 660R that comes with all the more premium stuff
Seems like the name they gave it is the biggest problem you have with the bike. Doesn't sound so bad.
Whenever you see 93.9hp, you can be sure that it is solely for A2 license conversion. Because it is illegal to convert everything higher than 94hp to A2.
I'm happy to see that Triumph hasn't abandoned the Daytona model. I'm hoping they bring out a 660R with some Ohlins suspension and Brembo brakes, because why not; have the option.
The 600 supersport era was certainly a highlight in my biking career, a screaming 4 cylinder engine pushing out anywhere between 90 and 100hp was all you needed for maximum grin factor. At that time I was in my early thirties and a light weight easily capable of moulding myself around such machines and riding around all day long. It’s great to see manufacturers venturing somewhat back towards this class of machine enabling younger riders to experience such. Now I’m in my sixties I ride a RT 1250 which suits me very well however I still think back to those times pretending to be Colin Edward’s or Aaron Slight with much fondness. Thanks Scott 👍
11:30 I have to agree with you Scott, the bike looks great it's just my fault I'm 68 years old 😢
I mean, 95 hp for a 660 is plenty enough, they did it for price reasons, to share the same frame and engine with their other 660 bikes.
A Triumph Daytona is a high revving 500cc twin from late 60ies. Nice one!
Yea nobody does trackdays… its like maybe %5 of the riders and its very very occasional. Buying a bike to do trackday once every couple months is not feasible. Every year, world getting more crowded but roads are not getting bigger, also speed limits not increasing either… and dont forget that with technology its getting easier to get tickets and fines. Motorcycle evolution has its own bell curve… the aim was to create more power with less weight at first but seems like we passed that phase because its getting meaningless, you cant ride a h2turbo on a public road and push to the limits (legally). So now instead of pushing for more power, brands are pusher for more users with more manageable vehicles. For that money, that is still a weaponlile vehicle…
Oh, I know lots of guys that do track days. You probably don't travel in those circles.
@@NothingToProve ofcourse you would know a lot of guys... but what percentage do they represent in the entire group of bike owners? ıf it was too high, brands would know it by market research and plan their production accordingly. Now people want to seem like they are racers but they also feel comfortable and pay less because they sadly earn less :(
I get why Triumph did what they did on this bike. I just wouldve been more creative and named it something other than a daytona. As they were hoping to get both new riders and legacy daytona fans. It unfortunately in its current form will just please newer riders imo. That all said im not into sports bikes. Ive got mainly classics and a ducati monster.
I didn't understand this bike as soon as it came out. 660 powertrain, non-adjustable fork, Trident chassis basis... This model makes more sense to me if it was a fully faired version of the Street Triple RS, OR, they made a faired version of the Trident and title it as such. This is just an insult to the Daytona nameplate to make sales. You're honestly better off with a Honda CBR650R because you get Honda reliability, an extra cylinder, and in my opinion, a cooler bike. That being said, a Street Triple RS is God-tier performance for it's class
Looks like a combination of a CFMoto and a Kawasaki
I come from the era when my 69 BSA Rocket 3 put out less than 60 horsepower. It averaged over 131 mph for 500 miles at Daytona . All of my pre 75 Trident’s except for my 72 big bore put out less than 80 horsepower. It’s amazing the power output they are getting out of the small motors now!
Perhaps a more suitable title would have been a review of the "2024 Scott" 😇 Keep up the good work!
Scott thanks for the great review. Love watching you have fun riding. I ride a f900r. at 61 years of age its perfectly aggressive for me
I think the bike looks good and the legendary triple sounds fantastic. Haven't ridden one (I have been on a Tiger 900), but would like to. At 63 years old, I would contemplate adding one to my garage for quick sprints through the curvy canyons and mountains near my home in southern California.
Dude, my 2003 speed four would spank that thing :) And for sure my 2009 Daytona would chew it up :)
Even my 1969 Daytona T100R is worth more money than that thing :)
solved get the 2024 Honda CBR 600 alway better looking and performer thanks.
The Kawasaki Ninja is available in 125cc 250cc 300cc 400cc 600cc 636cc 1000cc, I think Triumph deserve some credit for not just cutting into new territory but actually giving a respectable option in the middleweight road sport class that doesn't require bike yoga and the name implies the bloodline which the bike does portray via it's obvious DNA styling cues and refined mechanics
Just came back from a Daytona 660 test ride, and I have to say it's on my short list, and this is coming from a former Street Triple 765R owner. This bike is a bit friendlier, is just gorgeous, and very well put together. This engine and chassis you can enjoy a bit more on the street and push it a bit harder without getting too far outside of extralegal territory. Would love an RS version with a full compliment of Brembos front and back and an adjustable front fork. (I feel it would put it in Street Triple pricing territory though if they did that)
Its a nice bike and good in the new softsport section. I like this category if you can only have 1 bike. My only issue with the Daytona is they forgot on sports bike you need to paint the rear of the bike also. In Black its ok, but in White it stands out so bad. Also the dash is very outdated on a 2024 bike. Nice review.
I feel like this is Triumph’s turn to get what Yamaha received with the R7 launch. Just as “older” riders knew the original YZFR7 and saw the new R7 as a poor rebirth of the name, the same will be said of the Daytonas long gone and reborn. Alternatively, “newer” riders who may have never experienced the original Daytona may find familiarity with the name alone may love it for what it is, same as current R7 riders. IMO it’s a bit of a miss, I’m also not the target market as my current hunt is for a R1200/1250RS, but newer riders might find exactly what they’re looking for
Bro! That's literally my thought process. Freakin' bewildering how no one thinks it's an exact mirror reaction of yamaha.
But I'm excited. I'll be getting it as a second bike.
I don’t agree with calling this bike by the Daytona name, but aside from that it looks like a nice package at a good price.
Triumph just don't know how to name their bikes anymore. Tiger sport 850 has nothing to do with tiger sport 660 for example
Spot on Scott. Stay safe bro. Love your videos ❤Cheers from Canada.💪
Scott,which model alpinestars this jacket is?
"Tech-Touring"
Just dont like the front part cowl at the back of the gauge its empty
Liked video, already subscribed.
I watched it thru, but left wondering.
How does this compare to my 675 street triple or a 765?
Keep them, they are way better than this, performance wise. This has the triple sound and looks the Daytona part but that's about it.
Great review Scott! I don’t mind the drone! It’s new tech giving another perspective & dimension! Just make sure it doesn’t attack you😉!
Have you ridden the Suzuki GSX-8R? You liked the 8S!
Na, not yet, I am planning on it but the riding position of these bikes are getting to the point to where I just don't want to ride them at all, even for just a few hours and it changes my demeanour and out come of the video. So yes, I liked the 8S but that was an upright "naked" riding position, the 8R is a lot more leaned over like this one. So, I don't know maybe this summer when I'm running out of 2024 bikes to ride😒😢😊
Genau so hatte ich die "Daytona" nur nach Datencheck und nach Optik eingeschätzt, als langweiliges Anfängermotorrad mit wenig Performance, zu hohem Gewicht und zu teuer für das, was sie bietet. Sowas Daytona zu nennen ist eine Frechheit von Triumph. Da kann man sich auch gleich ne Honda CBR650R holen, genau dieselbe Kategorie, sieht besser aus und Honda ist bekannt für Zuverlässigkeit, die Wartungskosten sind auch niedriger als bei Triumph sowie Ersatzteile leichter verfügbar. Für Anfänger, die unbedingt den Look eines Sportlers wollen, aber sicher nicht uninteressant. Ich bleibe bei meiner Honda CB750 Hornet, meiner Meinung nach das beste, spaßigste und vielseitigste Motorrad, das derzeit auf dem Markt ist und das immer noch zu einem Schnäppchenpreis.
I did the math and Daytona is second in power to weight ratio: 0.2119638826 HP/lbs
Order from best to worst: rs660, daytona 660, cbr650r, gsx-8r, r7, ninja 650.
Tbf pre load couldn't deal with that weight range you mentioned. Thing is all suspension is adjustable, you just got to disassemble some to do it.
The whole point is If there is an easier way than why having to disassemble it? Cheers!!!
@@JAMMAJ-cq2bl I think you miss the point a little there. Just because there is no easy external adjusters doesn't mean it's not adjustable.
@@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou Come on bro, we all know what Scot meant when he said "not adjustable". Lets not split hairs here😂Cheers!!!
@@JAMMAJ-cq2blYeah we do. Just saying there's more than one way to skin a cat. Oil viscosity, air gap, spacer length, drill tubes et al ...
It is not a bad bike but the problem is the name they gave it is associated with an out-and-out sports bike which creates a level of expectation when you get on it. It's also a young person's bike. It looks like it has Kawasaki Ninja 650 ergonomics.
that exhaust pipe is just plain ugly …
I'll keep my 765.
I keep a 13 675 street triple, bought new, 87k miles, I don’t ride it now.
I wonder if this bike is more similar to the 675 vs 765?
Yes, this
I'd love to hear this one with an arrow exhaust. The 675R sounds amazing with it
Waiting for KTM 1390 Superduke Evo test. ☺️
Scott, nice review as usual. But you are missing the Autobahn segment. Why??
I just couldn't take the riding position and wind noise any longer while I had it out, so I skipped it. I guess this type of riding position is just not for me any more. I'm getting too old...I guess.
@@NothingToProve 😂Its ok Scott, so am I👍
I saw this bike drive past me in town the other day. I thought it was a sweet looking bike I had to do a double take tomsee what it was and saw the triumph logo.
Hi. Any possibility of reviewing the new super duke ?
Great review. Looks banging, though don't it😂🙏
Is this quicker than r7 or rs660?
yes, no respectively
Triumph put the pegs too far back on their naked bikes.
Within 6months to a year this model will be upgraded/tweaked. Too many Triumphs on the market. Defo not for me. 👍
yea, there will be an "R" version next year with all the stuff I complained about, that is the normal route for many OEMs...sadly.
Good review seems like the bike is out of your comfort zone. I feel that Triumph just slapped some sportier goodies on a Trident and called it a day.
Yea, that about says it all, imho.
Hello, you got a new subscriber today 👍
You confirmed my first impression from the Bern motorcycle show: the seating position is not comfortable in the long run. I did an hour long test drive with the Suzuki GSX 8R and found that very good, though the suspension is a bit harsh. The same shop also had a Moto Guzzi V7 Corsa, and that's my bike after all!
All about the engine..
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I suppose the r7 and this are pretending to be something else
That's one of the reasons why I did not do the R7 last year and will not do any of the other bikes in this class. The other reason is that I'm just too old to ride these bikes anymore...sigh.
What do you say about Kawasaki Ninja 650 as compared to this bike?
This is a little more exciting (triple motor vs. the inline 2 180 degree firing order), and the looks of this is up-to-date, Ninja needs a face lift, imho.
Kawi is a good bike, but that parallel twin sound is terrible. Only thing that can make it bearable is a Yoshi pipe, if you are lucky and it is legal in your country.
meant 650R lol!
The intro ❤
The more and more I look at the bike and do the research now that people are actually getting their hands on the bike. The more I like it. Only thing I'm getting is if it was called anything other than a Daytona, it'd be a phenomenal bike. And I'd say that's not nearly enough to hate on the bike. Great review
Right, it is a great bike, just give it another name. That was really my only complaint.
did not watch the whole video just to comment on the drone, how much is it?
The drone opening is fun 🎉
1100 euros, plus a crash and burn of one unit, insurance, replaced crashed one, so in total so far about 1,400 euros and counting...
@@NothingToProve oh. Wow.
@@NothingToProve thank you, its expansive stuff but useful
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The styling of the bike is great and definately a step forward for Triumph. However it's under powered, i'm not sure how much it weighs but for a 660cc it should be producing arount 120bhp I think to keep it in line with other bikes
What other bikes?? The New Daytona is more powerful than most of its rivals in the 600 category...
Had it been a BMW badge on the same bike you would give it a "boom" "boom"....
No, he has called out BMW’s in the past. Opinions are subjective. So take everything with a grain of salt.
LOL!