Gary, Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I have spent many, many days 1 watching WML 2 Googling names I have never heard of 3 ... and the names of people I remembered too little of. 4 Listening to this great man (Frankie Laine) sing 5 reading all the great comments from so many interesting and intelligent commenters. 6 and the best part - - - I see I have many from the playlist yet to go. Again, thank you!
I agree with you. I have already watched all the shows, and intend to watch them again. I am also watching the syndicated version, which succeeded this show. Outside of Arlene, who stayed in, the panelists were not as good. But they still had some great mystery guests.
I Explicitly do NOT Posit This in a Nefarious way when I say NEVER in my Entire LIFE Has a Head of hair Looked *SO* Similar to Jane Powell,?.!!! o.O o.O O.o
Martin Gable was great as guest panelist as he was sharply inteeligent man but Joe Bishop, Tony Randoll, Steve Allen, Robert Q. Lewis were too good as guest panelists as they were intelligent but funny too
@@rtflone : I trememdously respect him for that, most husbands just could not appreciate to remain in the shadow of his wife as Martin did. He was famous by his own accord, but in this game he mostly introduced as "the husband of Arlene"by Dorothy and he didn't mind. Others would prefer to be called "Arlene as Martin's wife".
I was never a "Rat Pack" fan but love Joey Bishop on this show-wish he was a regular panelist.He was always very funny-dry wit-but never acerbic like some panelists they had.
Joey Bishop is so funny on WML. I've seen him on the Dean Martin roasts and as a stand-in for Johnny Carson on the Tonight show, but I never really thought that he was that funny on those programs. He is really great here. He is hilarious and also can ask a lot of really good questions.
The Automatic Voting Machine in question was first patented in 1900. The machine appears to have been a family affair, as Mr. Stone's father (Frank A.) also sold/was a proponent of them. Frank P. had moved to the Shoup Voting Machine Company as of 1963, and was a Vice President for them. (I find this interesting (in a limited kind of way) since the two were competitors.) Was married to someone named Emily Dykeman (good Dutch name, that), and died in 1972. (Was 45 here.)
@James Broms Read up on Dorothy-she was a brilliant and well respected columnist-and possibly murdered-still in question-she also was probably the best panelist at guess ing "their line"
@@YaelleG Dorothy asked: "Can you hurt yourself or someone else.... like dropping it out of a window". In June the same year while Gabels were away, their maid put a dumbbell on the window to keep it opened. The dumbbell fell and killed a man.
He went haunting for real on Oct 27 2016. He was 98 and always young. In 2008, age 90, he appeared on radio for a Halloween show, becoming one the few, if not the only, person on radio who was older than the medium of radio itself.
If this show were on contemporary TV, and I were actually watching these as live shows every Sunday night, instead of in 50+years-old recordings, Mr. John Daly would get an irate letter from me saying, "For the dozenth time, Mr. Daly, WORMS ARE NOT REPTILES!!!!!" (Actually, I would probably write a very nice letter, telling him and the whole panel how much I enjoyed the show, and then I would refer him to detailed information about the classification of both worms and reptiles and remind him that he had already researched and been sent similar information several years earlier. I did actually yell something like the exclamation above at the screen after his completely incorrect response to the question Dorothy asked at about 15:28, though! Also, all reptiles are vertebrates, regardless of what Dorothy thinks or pretends to think!)
Today any HS student would NEVER call a worm a reptile. In the 1950's or earlier, they apparently didn't teach animal biology. John is very well educated but struggled with what a worm is. Even I know it's an annelid. And Dorothy, all reptiles are vertebrates. All I can say is 'YIKES'.
I realize this is a nearly 60-year hindsight, but for the voting booth segment John should have distinguished between the words 'protection' and 'privacy'.
voting machines are designed to protect the integrity of the results -- only the fabric is designed for protection and Daly seemed insistent that only the metal portion was the product
Arlene's necklace. How did she stay upright? Dorothy's wig. What was that? mid-life crisis? Francesco Paolo LoVecchio really is Frankie Laine's birth certificate moniker.
+soulierinvestments It might have been an experiment. It might have been a bad hair day. It might have simply been something many of us women go through where we simply want a change for any number of reasons.
Arlene's large necklaces were mostly costume jewelry, so they probably didn't weigh what you might think they do. The stones wouldn't be as heavy, and whatever metal was used was probably lighter than it appears. I don't know why Dorothy is wearing a wig that doesn't fit her properly, but she was likely suffering from a really bad haircut.
@@loissimmons6558 Of course, but none of those reasons can excuse how utterly atrocious it looks. I mean, her natural hair leaking from the back ? I'm surprised she had the nerve to go on stage looking like that, let alone national television. Geez.
So the Oakhaven Worm Farm was actually a subsidiary activity; they raised worms underneath the rabbit hutches that a family (Robert & Lolynda (or Jolynda) Williams) had at their (apparently rather historic) house, to supplement his income as a reporter. (Presumably the rabbit poop provided fertile turf for the worms.) I dunno how long Mrs. Foster worked for them, nor how long the business survived (until the mid-70s, looks like), but Mrs. Foster died in 1997. She and her husband had 5 kids. (And I enjoyed her mildly enjoying Daly.) And now, a picture of shirtless worm farmers: cedarhilltx.com/DocumentCenter/View/7358
Interview with Mrs Foster's daughter: ruclips.net/video/utf_Jie7Ot8/видео.html Cedar HIll, Texas, where Mrs Foster had her worm business, was the Dallas County seat. In 1856, a tornado destroyed the town and the seat moved to Dallas. In 1960, there were 1,800 people living there. Now there are nearly 50,000.
After the last contestant, John Daly says that tonight is Halloween, but it is being celebrated tomorrow night. This show was filmed on 10/30 so I'm trying to figure out how that is Halloween.
I see a lot of positive comments about Joey Bishop here, mentioning how funny he was. I find it interesting to see that some people do find him quite funny. For a long time I've tried to understand why he was considered to be a comedian, because I've seen him on several different TV shows, and I never heard him say anything that I found funny. But to each his own. I'm sure that there are some comedians whom I find hilarious, but who aren't funny at all to others.
This episode contains one of the more memorable clips in Gary's WML Biology Video. Ever seen so many smart people who don't know the basics of classify life on Earth?
By now because of past experience, you would think the staff would include some basic information in John's packet on the classification of any animal forms that were involved in that challenger's line.
I am 66 and I can tell you that people older than me did not learn that type of thing until they hit biology in high school. I’m saying that my grandma (born in 1896) knew all kinds of snakes but probably didn’t know the word reptile.
Strange, isn't it? Notice how Bennett makes a point of touching her wig when he enters. Otherwise, if I recall correctly, there's no notice taken of Dorothy's temporary new look here at all.
And her hair had looked so good the week before! For the record, What's My Line? , Bennett does mention it (much to John's and Dorothy's embarrassment, I'm sure -- watch John's reaction) in the "good nights" at the end of the show (25:16). Bennett also looked genuinely surprised when he first saw her during the introductions. Could it be that they had not seen each other backstage?
I always feel a bit uncomfortable when random scenes in the various WML episodes focus solely (but only momentarily) on the notable(?) repartees between John Daly and Bennett Cerf. I know that because of this (collective) ongoing banter, it developed into a kind of a "historical banter of teasing" between the two; however, I felt it was done--or carried out--at the expense of the other three panelists, as they would have been left out of these sort of "inside jokes."
Again they missed a seasonal thing. Weren't they at all excited about the elections? There was going to be a new president, and they had the tv debates for the first time even. Someone in the panel should have suspected there could be something in connection with the election.
The first guest Mr Stone had the brains of a rocking horse. Completely lost and utterly clueless about his own product. You have any o wonder about these people and what became of them.
The smile on Bennett Cerf’s face when he asked his first question regarding the celebrity is evidence enough that he had been tipped off. This happened far to many times and frankly defeated the whole exercise. It was disappointing for the celebrity as well as for the TV audience.
I always seem to find myself smiling when I watch this show. I can't think of one show on today in 2020 that makes me smile. 😃
You are not alone in that regard. It's great therapy.
Gary,
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
I have spent many, many days
1 watching WML
2 Googling names I have never heard of
3 ... and the names of people I remembered too little of.
4 Listening to this great man (Frankie Laine) sing
5 reading all the great comments from so many interesting and intelligent commenters.
6 and the best part - - - I see I have many from the playlist yet to go.
Again, thank you!
I agree with you. I have already watched all the shows, and intend to watch them again. I am also watching the syndicated version, which succeeded this show. Outside of Arlene, who stayed in, the panelists were not as good. But they still had some great mystery guests.
And yes, here I am again, having watched all of them available since 1950! And I plan to go through them again.
Every time biology comes up on this show it's like the discussion in Moby Dick of whether a whale is a fish.
I've decided Dorothy's wig really was a Halloween thing. Because otherwise, I just can't imagine.
I Explicitly do NOT Posit This in a Nefarious way when I say NEVER in my Entire LIFE Has a Head of hair Looked *SO* Similar to Jane Powell,?.!!! o.O o.O O.o
Agreed! 😂
Why did Bennett Cerf always pronounce been like bean?😂
Yama-hama fright night.
I enjoyed Martin Gable as a panelist but Joey Bishop could really break up the audience.
Thank you so much for posting WML.
Instablaster...
Martin Gable was great as guest panelist as he was sharply inteeligent man but Joe Bishop, Tony Randoll, Steve Allen, Robert Q. Lewis were too good as guest panelists as they were intelligent but funny too
@@lopa2828 Martin could also be funny but preferred to lay back and let wife Arlene Francis be the star..
@@rtflone : I trememdously respect him for that, most husbands just could not appreciate to remain in the shadow of his wife as Martin did. He was famous by his own accord, but in this game he mostly introduced as "the husband of Arlene"by Dorothy and he didn't mind. Others would prefer to be called "Arlene as Martin's wife".
I was never a "Rat Pack" fan but love Joey Bishop on this show-wish he was a regular panelist.He was always very funny-dry wit-but never acerbic like some panelists they had.
RIP John Zacherle, October 27, 2016. He was 98.
Zacherle's name should have been listed in the WML description line. He was a celebrity!
I love when Joey Bishop is on.
Joey Bishop is so funny on WML. I've seen him on the Dean Martin roasts and as a stand-in for Johnny Carson on the Tonight show, but I never really thought that he was that funny on those programs. He is really great here. He is hilarious and also can ask a lot of really good questions.
Not so much based on looks, but the voice of the first challenger, both tone and manner of speaking, reminded me of Jack Webb.
The Automatic Voting Machine in question was first patented in 1900. The machine appears to have been a family affair, as Mr. Stone's father (Frank A.) also sold/was a proponent of them. Frank P. had moved to the Shoup Voting Machine Company as of 1963, and was a Vice President for them. (I find this interesting (in a limited kind of way) since the two were competitors.) Was married to someone named Emily Dykeman (good Dutch name, that), and died in 1972. (Was 45 here.)
25:17 "Don't you flip that wig, Dorothy." Oh, the irrepressible Chuckles. At least he didn't comment that she was wearing it because of Halloween.
Dorothy's wig was awful-you can see her dark hair in the back and sides. what was she thinking??
I think it's meant to be a hat of some kind. Everyone knew that Dorothy was dark-haired therefore she would't turn up one week suddenly blonde!
eepanus star Halloween was the next day, I think the wig was just for fun, not fashion.
@James Broms Read up on Dorothy-she was a brilliant and well respected columnist-and possibly murdered-still in question-she also was probably the best panelist at guess ing "their line"
eepanus star more than a wig it looked more like a shower cap 🙊 😂
@James Broms ha ha ha, that was so funny.... NOT
I loved Zacherley, and loved his horror show, as a kid. A really nice man.
@dannydoc 1969.
I love that from 23:07 the horror movie host looked horrified that he may appear on the FRONT PAGE.
Joey Bishop was top notch. I laughed throughout this episode. Love it.
4:52 glad the first contestant finally smiles here , he looked quite annoyed when Daly objected to his answers.
Bennett - "Don't you flip that wig Dorothy". I actually would have said - "Dorothy flip that wig. Very soon". Horrible.
Yama-hama fright night.
Loved how he sang the theme song of "Rawhide ".
If I've ever seen a voice that didn't seem to match up with the person, it's Mr. Laine.
'dropping it out a window' ... not every tactful of Dorothy considering what Arlene & her husband had recently experienced ...
I just had the same reaction!
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Sometimes people don't think. No harm is intended; things just roll out of the mouth.
@@kristabrewer9363 you better google it
Krista Brewer There was a very unfortunate incident at the Gabels home in June 1960 where a dumbell fell out of their window, killing a pedestrian.
Joey Bishop's was an excellent comedian, I find him pleasantly funny when on this show.
A hacker hacked Dorothy's head!
14:13 Ohh Arlene cough. She definitely felt bad. I wonder if Dorothy realized what she said and bite her tongue.
What am I missing??
@@YaelleG Dorothy asked: "Can you hurt yourself or someone else.... like dropping it out of a window". In June the same year while Gabels were away, their maid put a dumbbell on the window to keep it opened. The dumbbell fell and killed a man.
John Zacherle is still with us as of April 2016.
He went haunting for real on Oct 27 2016. He was 98 and always young. In 2008, age 90, he appeared on radio for a Halloween show, becoming one the few, if not the only, person on radio who was older than the medium of radio itself.
When I saw Frankie Laine coming with his glasses, I thought "O, it's Steve Allen again!" :))
Glad to know I wasn't the only one who thought that
Even an elementary school student would say a worm is not a reptile.
The Great Frankie Laine... probably best known for the Blazing Saddles theme song.
He sang the title song 4 rawhide series 25+ yrs b4! He held that last note 4 over 15 seconds.
@@dariapoklemba2150 Thanks, now I know who this guy is. I'm 61 and never heard of him. Younger people may not even know Rawhide.
He is well known for Mule Train, Cool Water and his version of the theme from High Noon (although Tex Ritter sang it on the soundtrack).
If this show were on contemporary TV, and I were actually watching these as live shows every Sunday night, instead of in 50+years-old recordings, Mr. John Daly would get an irate letter from me saying, "For the dozenth time, Mr. Daly, WORMS ARE NOT REPTILES!!!!!" (Actually, I would probably write a very nice letter, telling him and the whole panel how much I enjoyed the show, and then I would refer him to detailed information about the classification of both worms and reptiles and remind him that he had already researched and been sent similar information several years earlier. I did actually yell something like the exclamation above at the screen after his completely incorrect response to the question Dorothy asked at about 15:28, though! Also, all reptiles are vertebrates, regardless of what Dorothy thinks or pretends to think!)
Today any HS student would NEVER call a worm a reptile. In the 1950's or earlier, they apparently didn't teach animal biology. John is very well educated but struggled with what a worm is. Even I know it's an annelid. And Dorothy, all reptiles are vertebrates. All I can say is 'YIKES'.
I realize this is a nearly 60-year hindsight, but for the voting booth segment John should have distinguished between the words 'protection' and 'privacy'.
voting machines are designed to protect the integrity of the results -- only the fabric is designed for protection and Daly seemed insistent that only the metal portion was the product
Arlene's necklace. How did she stay upright?
Dorothy's wig. What was that? mid-life crisis?
Francesco Paolo LoVecchio really is Frankie Laine's birth certificate moniker.
+soulierinvestments
It might have been an experiment. It might have been a bad hair day. It might have simply been something many of us women go through where we simply want a change for any number of reasons.
Arlene's large necklaces were mostly costume jewelry, so they probably didn't weigh what you might think they do. The stones wouldn't be as heavy, and whatever metal was used was probably lighter than it appears. I don't know why Dorothy is wearing a wig that doesn't fit her properly, but she was likely suffering from a really bad haircut.
Dorothy's wig = Halloween fun
@@loissimmons6558 Of course, but none of those reasons can excuse how utterly atrocious it looks. I mean, her natural hair leaking from the back ? I'm surprised she had the nerve to go on stage looking like that, let alone national television. Geez.
@@michaelclark6223 You could be right, but I'm not so sure. Dorothy is just vain enough to think it might have "looked nice."
Mr. Cerf is quite a gentleman.
WTF is that ting on Dorothy´s head.....???😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
He would be intrigued by the way we vote and count today.
Gil Fates wrote in his book that he knew Peter Stone socially and brought him to the show on his initiative.
Mr. Stone was an excellent contestant.
There is a RUclips video about Mrs. Foster. Search for Oak Haven Worm Farm.
Dorothy went to a halloween party and had a wig on it
She looked like Ms Monroe
Very timely!
So the Oakhaven Worm Farm was actually a subsidiary activity; they raised worms underneath the rabbit hutches that a family (Robert & Lolynda (or Jolynda) Williams) had at their (apparently rather historic) house, to supplement his income as a reporter. (Presumably the rabbit poop provided fertile turf for the worms.) I dunno how long Mrs. Foster worked for them, nor how long the business survived (until the mid-70s, looks like), but Mrs. Foster died in 1997. She and her husband had 5 kids. (And I enjoyed her mildly enjoying Daly.) And now, a picture of shirtless worm farmers: cedarhilltx.com/DocumentCenter/View/7358
Here's a short video interview with Mrs Foster's daughter about how she got picked for WML. ruclips.net/video/utf_Jie7Ot8/видео.html
Interview with Mrs Foster's daughter: ruclips.net/video/utf_Jie7Ot8/видео.html
Cedar HIll, Texas, where Mrs Foster had her worm business, was the Dallas County seat. In 1856, a tornado destroyed the town and the seat moved to Dallas. In 1960, there were 1,800 people living there. Now there are nearly 50,000.
74K now and scores very high on Area Vibes.
Dorothy must have lost a bet 🤣
After the last contestant, John Daly says that tonight is Halloween, but it is being celebrated tomorrow night. This show was filmed on 10/30 so I'm trying to figure out how that is Halloween.
+Jeff Vaughn I think John just meant that this was "Halloween night" on WML, since it was the closest episode to the actual night of Halloween.
I think it was in reference to Dorothy's wig.
@@robbob1234 Exactly.
@@robbob1234 Dorothy's wig was definitely frightful..
All Dorothy needed was some bolts of black-dye running through her hair.
I see a lot of positive comments about Joey Bishop here, mentioning how funny he was. I find it interesting to see that some people do find him quite funny. For a long time I've tried to understand why he was considered to be a comedian, because I've seen him on several different TV shows, and I never heard him say anything that I found funny. But to each his own. I'm sure that there are some comedians whom I find hilarious, but who aren't funny at all to others.
He was a very funny guy. A hoot. A riot.
At about 15:02, you can see at the back of Daly's head either a patch of gray hair or the bald spot he worked so hard to conceal
Frankie Lane!
What has happened to Dorothy's hair? :))
It's peeking out from under the edges of her wig.
Exactly !!!
Looks like she's trying to be Arlene. It's very similar to Arlenes hair except Arlenes is her real hair.
This episode contains one of the more memorable clips in Gary's WML Biology Video. Ever seen so many smart people who don't know the basics of classify life on Earth?
By now because of past experience, you would think the staff would include some basic information in John's packet on the classification of any animal forms that were involved in that challenger's line.
@@loissimmons6558 Now where's the fun in that?
I am 66 and I can tell you that people older than me did not learn that type of thing until they hit biology in high school. I’m saying that my grandma (born in 1896) knew all kinds of snakes but probably didn’t know the word reptile.
That guest Mr. Stone, was a Hunk!
People actually let Dorothy Kilgallen, walk out in front of the public, wearing that hair concoction, thinking she looked good.
It was probably a Halloween gag.
They can see him
Dorothy looks much different as a blonde, but I think it suits her very nicely. She seems to enjoy her new look!
Wonder what Goodson & Todman were thinking when Dorothy showed up as a "blonde"?
Strange, isn't it? Notice how Bennett makes a point of touching her wig when he enters. Otherwise, if I recall correctly, there's no notice taken of Dorothy's temporary new look here at all.
That wasn't a wig, it was a hat. A malignant hat.
What's My Line? He touched her shoulder, not her wig/hat/whatever.
The least she could have done was tuck ALL of her hair under the wig. She had a regular hairdresser. Maybe he had the night off?
And her hair had looked so good the week before! For the record, What's My Line? , Bennett does mention it (much to John's and Dorothy's embarrassment, I'm sure -- watch John's reaction) in the "good nights" at the end of the show (25:16). Bennett also looked genuinely surprised when he first saw her during the introductions. Could it be that they had not seen each other backstage?
Dorothy must have been hopped up to think that wig was a good idea.
What's with the wig Dorothy is wearing?
Voting machines 😨🤪
Vote for Nixon or Kennedy on 11/8/60.
WHAT IS DOROTHY WEARING?!
Did she really wanna look THAT much like Arlene?
I always feel a bit uncomfortable when random scenes in the various WML episodes focus solely (but only momentarily) on the notable(?) repartees between John Daly and Bennett Cerf. I know that because of this (collective) ongoing banter, it developed into a kind of a "historical banter of teasing" between the two; however, I felt it was done--or carried out--at the expense of the other three panelists, as they would have been left out of these sort of "inside jokes."
Arlene said that her son has worms!
I just have to believe that Dorothy was trying to be funny with that wig.
Halloween party after the show?
Terrible wig Dorothy. I hope it was for Halloween like someone else said.
Dorthy, blond no way!
What does Dorothy mean by “long hair” as opposed to pop?
thats a term referring to classical music.
Some guests see to go out of their way to say yes.
Again they missed a seasonal thing. Weren't they at all excited about the elections? There was going to be a new president, and they had the tv debates for the first time even. Someone in the panel should have suspected there could be something in connection with the election.
The first guest Mr Stone had the brains of a rocking horse. Completely lost and utterly clueless about his own product. You have any o wonder about these people and what became of them.
Dorothy as a blonde! Doesn't really work LOL.
When the questioning got to Bishop, he almost always cracked a great line.
What the heck is on Dorothy's head!?
*****
Haaaa!
+dylan plantenga Haha. I'm dying
The Brave Introvert a shower cap 😆
Dorothy's hair what is with that and the audience reaction agreed with me
Mrs. Kilgallen is a blond here. I'm more used to her as a, brunette.
That's a weird wig Dorothy has on. Is that her real hair peeking out on the edges.
It's always disappointing and somewhat unfair for the final guest when there's only 3 minutes remaining to play the game.
Frankie Lane was a hottie in the 50's!
the voting booth guy is misleading to say the least.
Please give details
Sang Rawhide theme.
Frankie Lane sang the "Blazzing Saddles" theme.
Don't like Dorothy's hair...she looks like Arlene
Zacherly at 22.04
The smile on Bennett Cerf’s face when he asked his first question regarding the celebrity is evidence enough that he had been tipped off. This happened far to many times and frankly defeated the whole exercise. It was disappointing for the celebrity as well as for the TV audience.
22:04 ¿?
22:03 lol
The producer of this show must like worms.
He told me no
@@RonGerstein lol