The "Clickbait-ification" of Fortnite Creative Maps (caused by UEFN)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- The previous title for this video was "I Think UEFN RUINED Fortnite", so if anything didn't quite make sense after clicking and reading the title, that's somewhat why.
Lately the Discovery Tab has just been filled with the same exact copy-pasted, oversaturated thumbnail/genre, playtime-farming maps. So, this video was made to sorta rant about it. Nobody else speaks up about it so, why not?
This video and script was rushed so any question you have will be answered in the comments. To clarify, I mean that most creators are simply using UEFN to get more players as Fortnite pushes UEFN maps way more than standard 1.0 maps.
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ruclips.net/video/K-ilBZ3HOZw/видео.html
came at the right time
FINALLY SOMEBODY THAT ACTUALLY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS!!!
There have been so many FN/UEFN RUclipsrs that have been just brushing this issue aside, because they think that this will go away in a month or so.
Glad I was the first.
Ikr was gonna lose my mind cause nobody was talking about that shit
@@Illuminex_XD Oh trust me, I have way more videos about stuff like this coming.
@@Nitr0hSquared good
Make sure people know about this or creators will just pretend it isn't happening
so true
Completely agree with this. 90% of all creative maps are garbage and copy and paste. All the red vs blue, "default deathruns", box fights, gun games, tycoons. It's just kids that feed into this content.
Exactly. It just sucks, man.
(Can you join the discord?)
@@Nitr0hSquared Don't have discord, sorry man.
I’m working on a top down game atm :)
I’m actually working on a battle royale game mode right now. Whole new island, new spawn island, etc. hopefully people don’t think it’s a copy and paste lol
Well published or not in my server you can promote it! (Link in desc)
me and a friend spent months on a prison escape UEFN map, it got popular for a day with a $500 payout and it died right after. someone posts HALLOWEEN PIT or MIA KHALIFA BOX FIGHT and gets enough money to pay for someone's entire college tuition, this system is too broken
Five stacks is insaneee. You can post it in my server after getting the Fortnite role if you want lol. (Check announcements after joining in desc)
I don't think it's necessarily the system's fault or else your game would've remained popular, it's just that the target audience prefers the low-effort maps. Because well, they're kids. If they see skibidi or something, they'll play it all day.
A 4 minute rant of STRAIGHT FACTS. 😮💨
Fire ass video, Nitr0h². 🔥
Thanks alot!
Finally someone talking about this kinda stuff this is a huge breath of fresh air
Lotta creators just sugar coat it and make it sound like it isn’t that bad but it really is.
The reality is that unless Epic changes how maps get pushed out or a heavily known creator pushes out a unique map, I do not think it is going to change. I'm also very surprised that Mini BR and Zombie maps are not as popular. I know they are not really original since STW and BR exist, but with those maps, you can at least get at least somewhat of a different experience through different environments or possible new weapon. It is a shame cause I would play a Creative Zombie map with a unique boss like how the Storm King from STW.
Literally no popular creator knows how to make good maps. Just search “new creative map” or something on TikTok and all you’ll see are duplicate maps from verified accounts or something
They kept em pushed down, because they had "Reload" coming out ;) now they ask you if they can copy your map for themselves royalty free for "promo"
You Are So Real. I Had An Idea Of Making Maps Myself but seeing all of These “Good Quality” maps Pop off I Just didn’t think I was Good enough and I brb couldn’t bc I a Minor :D
the first response is crazy💀💀💀 1:44
I've been getting into making UEFN stuff specifically because I see all this garbage on the main page and want to improve it. However it's definitely demoralizing knowing that red v blue skibidi toilet boxfights level up 100+ is going to outnumber anything I could make, because quality stuff takes time, while easy slop can just be tweaked and reposted constantly. Ideally what Epic should do is limit the amount of each genre can show up at the top of the list, so there's only a small few boxfights/parkours/prophunts, and the rest are pushed down to make way for more novel experiences.
In the meantime, all we can do is find good maps, and boost them as much as we can. If you see something you thing is good quality, share it; show it to your friends, post it on youtube, anything to help get the creator encouraged (and paid) so they will be more likely to produce more quality maps. Then it might even catch Epic's attention and get featured.
Exactly. Sharing and shouting-out good effortful maps are kinda the only thing we can do right now (if you cannot make maps yourself). I think the way Epic features/promotes maps on Twitter and Discovery kinda pushes creators to make maps like this because "if everybody's making this and getting money, why shouldn't I?" Thank you for this comment.
Very good Video on this topic. Its insane how the current system works just as RUclips does, with the Thumbnail beeing more important than the actual content. I also feel like actual ingame gameplay preview images would help many maps to show what they are about, the current system is pretty lackluster.
But I do believe it will improve once Verse gets more features as very good maps will always find their audience, but we will see!
Every *good* Creative Builder agrees with you lol.
The state of Creative is shambles, especially for those of us who are... well, CREATIVE!
Yea. We only want creative creators here.
finally. someone who actually talked about this.
Glad I'm one of the first. A sub would help.
i thought you had way more subs with before i checked anyways great vid and great editing have a great day
Thanks!! Can you join the discord?
@@Nitr0hSquared oh shit i forgot lol
discord link doesnt work lol
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It truly hurts me to see how UEFN fell off course, I'm even doubting if my next map is going to be crushed by the same tycoon/boxfight. Sometime i would really like if epic took some action against it but they will never do that they just added more rows expecting it would help but instead all it did was to show same maps, anyway. i'll keep working on my map hoping it will change someting among creators.
btw i'll make sure to support you with your code in my next skin purchase XD i liked your vid.
Have you published your map yet? If yes, how's it doing? If it's Dr Ahomi Dead End, congrats on getting 200 constant players. Nice map.
@@VividEsportsFN yes! thats the map I was working on! thank you! its doing pretty good, did you play it? 👀
man imagine if people actually tried on the heros maps with the coding instead of making the most basic thing ever for one
Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE
only time ive seen something close to this was a jjk one still gotta play it at some point to make sure @@Nitr0hSquared
this is all I want to hear
my head hurts everytime i see the same shit in the discovery tab
look what happened the rocket racing
it just mega ramps
there nothing related to racing it just ramps
question does epic games even makes money from the uefn like the "uefn creators" or no..?
(btw you earn a sub my guy)
I miss the days where there were less than 10 game modes available at once. Now I'm forced to look at hundreds of maps every time I wanna hop on any of the main game modes.
i feel like the game shouldve known this was coming, especially with roblox having this creativity drought for years
Though they HAVE the power to stop it, they just... Don't.
So true. I honestly don’t understand why there isn’t a threshold on Discovery for maps. Something like… once you’ve had X amount of time and/or have X,000 of CCU’s then you’re on your own so another map/creator can get a push. Then it would leave a map that’s been pushed and done well to maintain its user base on its own merits (which this stuff you mention would not) and it would stop the cycle of garbage (to an extent).
It’s literally all the same Red vs Blue, Green vs Purple , *insert comic book hero* vs * insert comic book hero* , *insert random celebrity* vs *insert random celebrity* , Red vs Blue(With a bunch of mythics that aren’t in creative) Like there’s 0 creativity and don’t even get me started on the copy and paste box fight maps and the copy and paste free for alls..
And OH GOD don’t even get my started on the overflow of horrible low effort death runs atp the only good thing to come with UEFN has been horror maps and art showcases
And the crazy thing is they make BANK from it. They even sometimes break Creator Rules and still stay up.
@@Nitr0hSquared YES! !!
I think this problem is not just for UEFN maps, but also for streamers/content creators who do the trends that get alot of views versus doing something unique and original. It goes back to the argument of "Do I make something that is actually genuinely cool but doesn't get alot of plays, or do I hop on the train where if I copy/paste something that is "working" but I don't enjoy doing?" UEFN has alot of potential for people to make cool stuff, but unfortunately the kids that play these copy/paste maps aren't interested in those other maps :(
I agree. While UEFN itself didn't just CREATE the issue I spoke about, it definetely amplified the issue beyond the horizon and still persists to this day. It's really Epic's fault for not properly rewarding uniqueness and creativity but instead rewarding people who bandwagon others and get popular. This is proven by Epic recently promoting the most popular RVB map that was a copy-ception of other RVB maps. It's also why I haven't really made any videos or devlogs recently because the creative scene is just very dry and boring for content and motivation to create anything.
EDIT: And touching on your "the kids are interested in other maps" that's also because Epic doesn't promote anything but what's been popular for years already or is of a oversaturated genre.
"dag my dad beats me what do i di" 😭😭😭😭😭😭
LMFAOOO I think you're the ONLY person who saw that 😭
You didn’t try any of the unique powers like freeze, Slender or mummy, which took a lot of time to make and are actually fun to use with other ppl🗣️🗣️🗣️
as someone who was really into the creative scene earlier this year, i had very high hopes with uefn's capabilities and how the community would use them, but unfortunately everything has become the same, no one tries to do something unique or original since that doesn't get plays like "skibidi toilet tycoon" or "ohio pvp super hero box fights"
it just became so demotivating and i haven't touched creative mode in months. i keep saying that i want to get back into making maps, but i don't want to succumb to the discovery meta just to get ten concurrent players in a map.
Exactly how I feel.
(love the pfp)
Weirdo
their are problems outside of creators control that make this worse too. like that unreal engine is hard to learn and use to its full potential, that the weekly updates breaking SOMETHING your map really incentevises creators to go with simple map designs, that the market is very overasaturated forcing creators to clickbait more and more to stand out and that the players of fortnite are primarily children who don't care about findng new experiences and just want to crank 90s and emote and aren't going to be interested in objective-based gameplay or PvE maps or maps with a story or other things like that which require them to step outside of their comfort zone.
I know that this would make even more slop maps, but I really wish Epic would allow people who don’t meet the age requirements to be able to post maps, just without the ability to make money, because I spent 2 weeks working on a map to realize when I was almost done that I can’t post the map at all, even when it was just something for me and my friends to play.
Epic really needs to purge a lot of the slop maps and get a quality control team
bro, nice video, you put a great effort in it, keep up man, i hope you grow more
Thank you. I have a Discord you can join and we’re like 20 off from 100 members so if you could help that’s be cool.
@@Nitr0hSquared alr bud np ;)
Bro I wanna start making maps but after watching this vid idk what to do now ps(u kept ur shit real, I like it )
Do what you want no matter if you think it's too "different". Stealing and never works out in the long-run and usually doesn't work at all. (always keep'n it real)
I was thinking Epic should add like a "Creators/Community Recommendations" so lesser known and higher quality maps are pushed out.
But then i remember this is the fortnite community and i know that shit will be flooded with ass because the creators would wanna promote themselves with a map they had a dude make in like 10 minutes.
The problem isn't UEFN, it's the curation system. If Epic actually hired people to push interesting maps the problem would go away, but they instead push Red v Blue, Tycoon etc maps because that's what people play... and that's what people play because that's what gets pushed. It's a never ending cycle of shit, but it has nothing to do with UEFN
Yup!
I agree with multiple things in the video. One argument I have though is that UEFN didn't cause these maps to get "popular". But rather the way discover handles the map showcase process.
Thanks, and apologies. I just think it’s how Epic pushed UEFN maps meaning they automatically got popular because people think they’re high quality.
there should be a mini br filter its the only playable thing
I'm not surprised the entire Fortnite community just uses UEFN for low effort repetitive meme maps
Have to agree with you on the repetition of the maps, but as a creator seeing everyone play these maps when you have 0 playing yours and you’re not making money… then what do you suggest? Keep making maps that no one will play?
Extremely good point-Yes.
If you hop on that bandwagon it wouldn’t last long. But if you make something that genuinely looks fun to play or is unique, then promote it before it comes out, you’d most likely get a head start in Discovery.
I’ve seen creator pages where they started out making maps with zero promotion/marketing and then having no players, so they’d try copying other maps like Box PVP or RVB and those failed too-leading to them quitting Creative all together.
Simply just theory, though.
@@Nitr0hSquared thanks for the advice. Unfortunately Im going through a bit of a process similar to this where I’ve been a creator for almost three years now and not a single map I have made has hit 1000 plays on it and then I see this junk with 20 thousand people playing and I think, hmm 🤔
Maybe I’ll catch a break one day! 😂
Fire content fr
I actually really like your videos, I can see you getting really big! Glad I'm here at the start to see you succeed :) ❤
this guy is underrated
The funny thing is that unreal has the option for blueprints so the powers took 3 mins each.
"These *unique* powers take *lots of time* to code"
More creators should make maps like nick eh 30’s theme park
and the worst part of UEFN is the thumbnails. why is everyone use AI to create a thumbnail? in 2021 when discover added, so much 3d renders make so much cooler thumbnails like 2 fortnite skins running and holding a gun or something else and now everyone is just use AI to generate a image of a character and a icon to a item it's just worst like this will be the future. (anyways i'm happy that i'm not alone about UEFN) subbed :)
Bro your underrated subbed
Thank you for making this video I myself am a small creator and I can barely get anyone on my map because everyone is just playing those dumbass brain rot maps so I barely get 3 players a day and then when my thumbnail looks copy and pasted even though I designed the whole thing myself for 20 minutes (I'm bad with thumbnails) yet these maps are doing the same thing but changing like 1 pixel using ai or some bullshit like that smh
Damn, your content is very good and you impressed me
Thanks.
Before UEFN came out I was dreading it’s release because I know that everyone was just going to take random really crappy 3D models and shove them in the map and I was right
SAMMMEEE dude I thought I was maybe selfish or something for not wanting it to come out but now I take that back
I was so excited for UEFN and then.. yeah..
Honestly I wasn't.
Or worse the skibdi toilet Ohio grimace shake maps
Still insane that those are actually real. 😭
A game I found which is really well made is "Dawg town"
Me and a friend played it. It def needs help with voice acting and scenery but it’s Ight.
Real 💀
They did an epic boss fight in Fortnite
They did the sans fight in Fortnite
But what gets popular?
This goofy ahh same maps
You are spitting fax bro
By the way, good video. I really want to create a unique map that stands out of that copy paste $h!t that you see when you load in the game. Have a great day guys❤
Definitely, the hard part is especially when it comes to the marketing and you do everything you can. Only to be beaten by AI fortnite brain rot
Especially when it comes to innovative ideas.
Me currently, I'm posting regular FFA maps inspired by old school arena shooters and even made trailers on my channel and social media for it
The fact they have the access to all Unreal Engine 5 tools and decide to make that garbage of "red vs blue" Is the worst, i've seen better games with more love in Scratch
RIGHTT lmfao
I think another problem is copyright, now I know you might be saying, “oh but it’s not fair for them to be earning money from other people’s works”
It’s clear Fortnite is trying to become the next Roblox, and there are PLENTY of Roblox games that are based on licensed IP, and they can make money from those games easily.
Fortrnite needs an algorithm that actually helps you find games that you'll enjoy and filter out all that crap. I stopped looking for good maps because all I'm shown are tycoon crap.
Real i started in chapter 4 since my firied told me we could cross-play and when i looked at the maps i said to myself bro what are these clickbait maps
chat is this gd cologne
IM NOT GD COLON
@@Nitr0hSquared fn intestine
You're banned /j
Yeah im really tired of seeing all the same games with the same mechanics and i have been thinking on publish some of my maps and trying to get a creator code but now that i see how most of the fortnite comunity it makes me lose hope i always think that not a lot of people would play my maps if i publish them so im just really tired of seeing all those maps as i keep seeing cool maps with original ideas being the less played ones
(Lol I left a lot of text)
Im new in UEFN and i want to create an Open World Zombie Apocalyps map where you can fight against players and zombies. Its a bit hard an complicatet but its okay👌🏽
W Video
Just posted a new one
The issue with UEFN is the same issue with Roblox games but worse.
What are the similarities?:
- Both have awful recommend tabs that only push the more popular games to the top (typically when I play Roblox I play games with less players active)
- both have very young fan-bases that the people making these maps can exploit to profit off
- They are both given too much ‘free assets’ and the majority of games use it to avoid extra work
Both are amazing platforms but both have big flaws with their systems.
UEFN Creators when discovering Sketchlab (they will base their entire game on it's free models):
w vid
Took a lot of writing. Thanks.
ive been saying bro 😭😭youre funny asl i dropped a sub
Thanks alot man that means so much. We have a community server if you wanna join in the description. 💜
good vid 😊
Thanks 😁
these days scrolling through the discovery tab in fortnite is like looking at gummy bears lined up in a wall but they are the same flavor with different colors, at this point creative 1.0 maps are getting more creative than the UEFN maps
Right. It’s actually sad.
(Unrelated but I have a Discord you can join and we’re like 20 off from 100 members so if you could help that’s be cool.)
I have two maps that took months to make and they're sitting at zero and go way better compared to most of the maps that I see in discovery it's a travesty.
It's funny how absurd your starting statement and your thumbnail are. The fact that the discovery tab is full of box pvp and red vs blue maps has nothing to do with UEFN. On the contrary, UEFN gave us the abilities to create more intricate games with complex mechanics and better environments while those maps most of the times can be made with Creative 1.0 tools. What you describe as a problem, which objectively is, has a completely different root than the one you suggest, and it's the algorithm used by epic to promote maps. Because this algorithm, and the fact that the maps that get paid well are those who perform well and not the high quality ones, the discovery tab is full of low effort games. If that was to change, the discovery page would look completely differently.
UEFN is mostly why every single Red VS Blue, Tycoon, Box PVP, and Box Fight are the exact same asset flips now. It's also mostly the reason why basically 99% of maps are straight dogshit because Epic decided to leak the creator earnings so now people start spamming absoloute slop made with UEFN (for stolen models, verse code, and UI) with stolen thumbnails and other things for a quick buck.
Before UEFN I was actually able to find good, unique, and somewhat high-quality maps. But ever since it came out it's basically IMPOSSIBLE. Every row, every map is just the same exact "LEVEL 1 BV LEVEL 999" thumbnail with over saturated colors, or completely misleading high-quality renders just for the map to just be a zone with item spawners, cars, and a massive empty terrain.
Me and my friend everyday play Creative for HOURS, and most of that time is, I kid you not, spent on actually finding maps. We have played every single map in the Zombies category TWO MONTHS AGO and it hasn't changed. We have played every single map in the "Epic's Picks" row, every map in the "New In UEFN" row 5 days in a row, and now we genuinely cannot find anything to play because everything is the EXACT SAME down to the UI and Sounds they use in these Tycoons or "Zombie" maps that just end up being a tycoon with 5 zombies sprinkled around.
@@Nitr0hSquared Again, nothing wrong with UEFN, what you described once again is the problem the monetisation and the algorithm created. The tool itself has nothing to do with the fact that you can’t find quality maps inside discovery. It is like blaming the printer because your local library has low quality books. Hope you understand what’s wrong with your argument.
@babakaros3d The algorithm has been tweaked to prioritize UEFN maps over 1.0. Easily proven by there rarely being 1.0 maps. It also doesn’t care about quality, but cares bout player count.
These kid slop maps stay on discovery so long because they’re almost always paid to be promoted on TikTok or player-botted.
This could easily be prevented if Epic better enforced Creator Rules and also did proper Quality Control on UEFN maps (which I know they have, as they deny maps from being approved for reasons such as “Gameplay needs improvement”, but very rarely).
Hope you understand what’s wrong with UEFN and Creative in general nowadays.
@@Nitr0hSquared What you said above is indeed true, but not one of your points proves that UEFN ruined Fortnite Creative. We seem to agree on the problem but one of us chooses to blame the tool while the other understands that it emerges from bad management on Epic's side. Remember, UEFN is just a tool. Creators use the tool to create games (both good and bad). Players play those games. Epic promotes the most played ones. Out of all four, you choose to blame the one that isn't responsible at all for the Discovery's state.
I'd like to agree that it's just the tool, but look at the timeline. Ever since it came out and Epic decided to leak the earnings of UEFN maps, it's all gone downhill. More spam maps came out that haven't been punished, more scams (like The Pit blatantly breaking two creator rules yet still being Featured and praised because it switched to UEFN), more drama based around UEFN, Creative 1.0 (non-converted) maps rarely being shown at all on discovery or always with low player counts, maps actually utilizing UEFN to it's full potential not being praised nearly as much as spam maps solely because the spam makes more money for Epic/The Creator, I could go on.
Again, I'd love to agree that UEFN is simply a tool that's optional to use, but it really just seems like it's a complete replacement or that it's mandatory to use to get anywhere at all in Creative. It seems like making these shitty spam "Zero Delay" or "Box PVP" maps are mandatory to stay on Discovery for longer than a day or even get ON discovery. Notice how most if not all popular Fortnite creators/youtubers aren't trying to make anything unique or revolutionary, but instead just copying others and making the exact same zero delay maps, box pvp, or RVB with zero changes or differences other than "your favorite youtuber made it". What's usually the main selling point of the maps? It's made with UEFN. It's like if you don't even say that it doesn't get plays.
I may be repeating myself and excuse me if I am, but Discovery is literally tweaked to prioritize UEFN maps. There is zero actual quality control, zero actual spotlight, none of that. Yes, "Epic's Picks" may have like 5 maps that are a tiny bit different, but notice how they're always below 100 players. Notice how maybe 1-2 of them aren't even unique or different than the average spam map. And ironically, notice how it's always BURIED down in Discovery.
Look at the tab literally named "New In UEFN" that's, of course, almost always full of the same spam maps with low effort thumbnails and clickbait titles.
Now to go a tad off-topic, would I still use UEFN if I could? Yes, though I can't because I'm on Mac. I feel UEFN when used properly is an amazing tool and I basically have to use it because Epic is slowly burning 1.0's UI/UX to the ground right now. But, when UEFN was announced I really did not like the idea of it.
Not sure if you know what it is, but another game I create in called Rec Room did a simular thing before Fortnite where they allowed creators to use Unity to make games in Rec Room instead of doing it in-game. And unsurprisingly, the exact same thing that's happening in Fortnite is happening in Rec Room which is basically another reason why I hate UEFN: it ruins UGC. It really hurts Rec Room because the game is literally completely built upon UGC, but since people can use Unity and Rec Room has bad moderation, it's basically all low-effort spam.
That's all.
W vid
i got something in the works 🙏🙏
You gotta make more of these commentary videos
Oh I most definitely will. I have one planned for later this week.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you make a different comment earlier about UEFN because if you did I had a response but RUclips wasn't letting it thru.
@@Nitr0hSquared I deleted it because I changed i mind
i think "tycoon" games are these creators way of hacking young children who possibly cant even play proper fortnite into coming back at a game where you win by pressing a button whole day. thats my theory on why that shit is everywhere on my fortnite page
I gotta say, the goal was never really about empowering creators. Just look at how they make it a pain for users to report any creative misconduct. You can't report maps in-game; you've got to go to the website, and even then, it's hidden at the bottom of the page. They're not keen on shutting these maps down; they want them to stick around because it boosts the numbers for the business. That way, Tim Sweeney can use it in his presentations to investors and push his dumb-ass idea of a multiverse, claiming it's doing wonders for Fortnite. Meanwhile, he's putting people out of jobs because his shit business choices just to outdo Valve and act like he's the bastion of morality (which he clearly isn't).
I've reported a creator for sending me death threats in DMs/tweets, sending gun images, and being racist to Epic and although it was solid proof it was them they said "we cannot do anything about this as it's on Twitter and not Fortnite". ??? I've always found the lack of reporting in-game so odd.
Yeah I just dropped into UEFN to try and make my own map and man, I can't shake the feeling that it's pointless. No matter how hard I try or how unique the game mode will be - it's useless unless I do AI thumbnails and "unique class mechanics" as stated in your video. For now I don't want to do that but maybe if the state of discovery is the same by the time I'm finished - I might resort to it
The entire map doesn't have to be ultimately breath-takingly unique. Sorry if I came off like that. Don't be discouraged though. Keep creating the map and try and build an audience (tiktok, twitter, etc) before publishing the map so it gets a head start out there.
@@Nitr0hSquared nono, as a creator I WOULD want to make it as unique as possible :) That's probably the ultimate goal of every creator. But unfortunately it looks like the community is not really interested in a unique experience. Just typical "zone wars with `all` weapons and some minor powers" will work as well as a custom coop campaign if not better. But yeah, promoting is a whole different story. A difficult task for someone distant from SMM
please epic PLEASE
STOP THIS BS IN FORTNITE
NEW VIDEO ON HOW I GOT DEATH THREATS AND SENT GUN PHOTOS FOR NOT LIKING A FORTNITE MAP!!
ruclips.net/video/vxXN_TYA7Y8/видео.html
Uefn is far more limiter than marketed. Yes with a huge Team u can workaround many issues. But the normal Joe can't or needs a long long time
What are you talking about
As someone who wants to make maps and games I agree with this sentiment, I want to make it profitable and sustainable for me but fun and original, all this grab bag garbage ruins that I either make an original game and have no players and no earnings, or a game that is copy and paste and hundreds of not thousands of dollars. It feels comparative to something like the topic of "the Mr Beastification of RUclips". It sucks man
I suggest you just do it. Make the game, if it flops, oh well, make another some time that month. Promote it on TikTok or Shorts. Build a community around the maps and interact with them. Basically just act like they don’t exist when creating.
(Unrelated but I have a Discord you can join and we’re like 20 off from 100 members so if you could help that’s be cool.)
@@Nitr0hSquared heck yeah shoot me the link bro
In the description. Roles might be broken but just ask for the Fortnite roles I’ll give it.
A good map is valhalla bossfights which is ACTUALLY unique
Can vouch as I’ve played it for an hour straight with a friend. Very good map.
@@Nitr0hSquared phew i thought i had a bad taste
Nah, see I fw zombie maps HEAVY. Been playing them ever since they because popular way back in the chapters. I’m working on one rn if you wanna see a Devlog, it’s called “Planet Zero”. Wasn’t posted too long ago.
@@Nitr0hSquared BET!!
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I don't think this is a problem with uefn but more with the way fortnite promotes maps which you describe in great detail I agree with everything else though
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creative allready had clickbait tbh
No shit. Now it’s even worse now.
nice video
Thanks
its deeper than that, you are missing the obvious that over arches all of this....
*refuses to elaborate*
Yooo
like 1 of the 500 bed wars is actually fun.anyone know any hidden gems?
i saw my map in the video lol 💀💀
What map??
jack the pit 2:46 @@Nitr0hSquared
I js searched ffa and scrolled lol@@AlanWhos__
I love the tycoons.
That’s fine!
Why just not join the train and milk it yourself?
If you can't beat them, join them
Because I have morals I’m not a loser?
Dumbass way of thinking
yea it’s a shame, don’t really know how you solve this though from fortnite’s perspective. I happen to also be a map maker who’s gone through this exact process. I mean shit, I wanna make money and no one gives a shit about actual creativity, so why not just pump out red vs blue garbage?
Fortnite can do more quality control and actually enforce their creator rules better for starters.
@@Nitr0hSquared ok but how do you practically enforce quality control, what does that mean from an actionable standpoint? And what creator rules? Copyrighted material has definitely been a gray area but although everything is very similar, it’s different enough to be considered transformative, so again not sure how fortnite fixes this. Not on anyone’s side just genuinely curious
Quality control could be:
- checking thumbnails for oversaturated colors, clickbait, AI, non-related/misleading content
- a dedicated team for reviewing maps with high traffic in short amounts of time after being published or being reported
- listening & responding to player reports (email, Twitter mention, in-game) about maps
- preventing the use of UEFN solely to appear higher in Discovery ("New in UEFN" tab is pretty high up) / to create islands mostly made up of free use models from third-party site like Sketchfab
I can go on.
A quick read through Fortnite's Island Creator Rules and a scroll through some popular discovery islands will tell you that some of them just don't give a shit about the rules. For example: The Pit by Geerzy violates 2 rules.
1.9 Play by the Rules: The island has multiple boards at spawn signaling that if you Like & Favorite the island, you will be granted a gun that is otherwise unobtainable anywhere else in the island. Keep in mind you can Like he same mal multiple times and it DOES add up.
1.11 All Bets Are Off: The creator recently added a "Lucky Wheel" mechanic to the island allowing players to spend money to get a random weapon. The issue is that you can do the exact same thing for free on the other side of the map with the "Random Load out" button.
@@Nitr0hSquared very interesting ideas, appreciate you taking the time to give thorough responses. Interested to see how things with UEFN develop over time
Uefn isn't ruining fortnite it's the moderation and the xp clickbait was here before UEFN and it is a problem when the wrong thing is being blamed it can add hate that really wasn't necessary especially since uefn is a cut down version of the most powerful game development tools on earth another thing is that it has insanely high reward for creating spam because of the engagement system gives out so much money that alot turned to absolute greed which contributed to the massive problems in the system with discovery tab being overwhelmed by new maps everyday
Its not original it’s true: It’s just Roblox man!
Even if i agreed with that you just have to realize the amount of money you can get with Fortnite map is absurd so if a current meta work map creator will do what work to get that bag
Bro I made a good original map but I can’t even post it😔
In my server you can post it there without a code and get feed back
Just people with horrible ideas of a creative game
sup bro
‘Sup.
Fortnite has always been like this
Doesn't mean it should be and that it's normal. 🤷🏿♂️
@@Nitr0hSquared Maybe if ya'll stopped playing these maps maybe but ya'll are too hypocritical for that
You're saying this as if I can just get people to stop playing these maps. 💀 Fortnite controls what gets shown not me slow-ass it's not my fault these lil' kids continue to play it because they don't care what the creator does they just like the map.
@@Nitr0hSquared You're saying this as if you weren't just promoting these maps in the video.
If you watch this video knowing it's a rant and made to critically speak against the maps shown, and you decide to start playing it, that has nothing to do with me. The entire video is made to bring awareness to these kids of maps, and the only way I can clarify and show proof/examples is by SHOWING THE MAPS. I never at all in any capacity said "but anyways, go play and check out these maps!" at all in this video. I do not like these maps (clearly).
I get what you're saying. but UEFN didn't cause this. It was created to push this garbage into obscurity.
Trust me, there are currently a LOT of solo devs and teams working on bigger games for this platform. It just came out and recently got some updates. The content might take a while, but it's coming.
Fr bro same copy and pasted garbage all over. Lets nit forgot those fake ass 0 delay maps lol