The REAL Problem with Fortnite Creative

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • Over the past 5 years, we've seen Fortnite Creative grow from a casual home for Hide & Seek maps and Mazes to what is now a money making machine for many developers. But how did we get here and why are so many people upset with what it's become? Well today, I'm breaking down this issue to figure out what the REAL problem with Fortnite Creative actually is and why I think it's future may be brighter than you think.
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  • @owenkuhnke3785
    @owenkuhnke3785 4 месяца назад +317

    The ai generated thumbnails drive me crazy

    • @The5kyDragon
      @The5kyDragon 3 месяца назад +12

      i was crazy once

    • @Sharkghosts
      @Sharkghosts 3 месяца назад +8

      @@The5kyDragonthey locked me in a room

    • @Azarath415
      @Azarath415 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@Sharkghosts A rubber room

    • @delta-1
      @delta-1 3 месяца назад

      full of rats

    • @mounted_future939
      @mounted_future939 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Azarath415A rubber room with rats

  • @portalwake9762
    @portalwake9762 4 месяца назад +259

    Monetisation ruined Fortnite Creative imo, people are copying and pasting popular maps for a quick cash grab instead of actually creating

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +31

      It can definitely feel like that on the surface, but in reality, it's what drives people to create bigger maps. If you look at the RUclips creative seen as it progressed from the age of no one getting paid to where we're at now, you'll see a similar trend. Yes, some people abused the algorithm by making clickbait content and pushing their vids to kids in gross ways, but there are also a large number of creators that can thrive on RUclips now because they're actually making money.
      Making a great map takes time and resources, so if you want creators to invest those things into a map, you need to incentivize them to do so and money is the best way to do that. You're more than welcome to pour your heart into a map just because you love doing it, but if you're balancing a full time job, family, and a personal life, chances are you're gonna have a hard time justifying doing that without getting something in return.
      Besides, great maps attracts more players to play the game as a whole and potentially buy stuff from the shop, which makes Epic money. So why shouldn't the creators get a share of that?

    • @portalwake9762
      @portalwake9762 4 месяца назад +12

      @@SeeDaveRun you've got a good point actually. Even before UEFN people were copying and pasting 1v1s and pits so it wouldn't make a difference. It's just a shame that most of the maps I see in the UI are tycoons with Fishstick in the thumbnail

    • @simonthebelievierbogalo4ab426
      @simonthebelievierbogalo4ab426 4 месяца назад +2

      I swear when it comes to actually creative suff on uefc it's like from 1 to 2 things per season
      I still rebember that someone made fnaf fangame in game, yeah it was just fnaf 1 copy and paste but thumb up from me for making original characters for this

    • @supremeleaderfrancisco9062
      @supremeleaderfrancisco9062 4 месяца назад +4

      The effects of capitalism

    • @slidersides
      @slidersides 3 месяца назад

      Yes

  • @PolyphonicWaves
    @PolyphonicWaves 4 месяца назад +71

    This isn't just a Fortnite issue. Every game that has player made content will have what's popular. When i played LittleBigPlanet, there were so many survival maps, bad horror maps, or how to make X costume. That said, i try to find unique maps to play.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +17

      You're not wrong. The difference with Fortnite is that it has the time, consistent player base, and support it needs to actually improve those things, while most other games that offer similar player created options, do not.

    • @PolyphonicWaves
      @PolyphonicWaves 4 месяца назад +4

      @SeeDaveRun You're right. Even at the height, LBP didn't have a massive player base. I hope it gets easier for people to make quality maps. Even some tycoon maps can be good if they add their own flair or mix it up.

    • @SharkZora
      @SharkZora 4 месяца назад

      @@PolyphonicWaves honestly if you look at it, FNC suffers from the same issues as Roblox, just a lot of slop content made for money burying peoples passion projects

    • @Paddylol
      @Paddylol 3 месяца назад +1

      Reminds me of when I used to play Super Mario Maker 2 and the Top Courses page was always filled with “~☆★Refreshing Special★☆~” courses (you do one ground pound and then there’s a buncha “satisfying” effects and stuff) instead of actual courses with gameplay

  • @SFX_Genix
    @SFX_Genix 4 месяца назад +513

    There should only be good maps on fortnite creative, not skibidi toilet pit type maps

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +106

      Real hard to define what a GOOD map is though, but I will agree that Skibidi toilet maps shouldn't be in anyone's description of "good" lol

    • @ajboomer1347
      @ajboomer1347 4 месяца назад +13

      You mean "shovelware"?

    • @olusegunbelcon
      @olusegunbelcon 4 месяца назад +16

      Your argument shows the lack of intelligence and if a map got players it should be pushed regardless of what you think about it.

    • @user-ke3li4yr7r
      @user-ke3li4yr7r 4 месяца назад +4

      I would adjust that statement. “The algorithm should only recommend good maps and not skibidi r v b.” I’m fine with allowing people to make those kinds of maps because there’s no way to block “bad maps” from being created while allowing the creative expression to make “good ones”.

    • @DavidSwe
      @DavidSwe 4 месяца назад +2

      @@SeeDaveRunNo maps specifically designed for young audiences, no maps that are rip offs or copies of others, no maps that reuse the specific designs of others (ex: all the pit and red vs blue maps), no ai generated thumbnails, no tycoons(debatable), no maps that advertise XP (already banned I think, but the moderation isn’t good), etc.

  • @jamfrypan
    @jamfrypan 3 месяца назад +21

    Man I miss battle lab I loved joining in public lobbys and hunting down the Rouge bots that Romed the map and being friendly to the other players or just avoiding the sweats

    • @gyrozeppeli3438
      @gyrozeppeli3438 Месяц назад +1

      yeah or when a season came out I can just explore it without being killed lol

  • @fltr_floozie
    @fltr_floozie 4 месяца назад +33

    i think the story behind how creative map makers have to navigate constant changes and an unforgiving algorithm is really not talked about enough. this is a great video!

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you! It's definitely one of those things that you don't really think about if you're on the outside of the scene and have never touched the program yourself.

  • @CorpCoral
    @CorpCoral 4 месяца назад +95

    Fortnite players when actually good creative games:😴😴😴
    Fortnite players when Ffa pit number #577280: 😝😝😝🔥🔥🔥🤑🤑🤑💸💸💸💸

    • @slidersides
      @slidersides 3 месяца назад

      People who got bored of Fortnite in general and moved onto different games: 😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🥲

  • @cr6050
    @cr6050 4 месяца назад +100

    There are really cool maps coming, we just need to hope fortnite will actually show them on the home pqge

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +12

      Every week or two, Epic will usually highlight a couple really cool creative maps on their RUclips page as well, which is something I forgot to mention in the video. So you might consider checking that out if you haven't already!

    • @joshuamalott3748
      @joshuamalott3748 4 месяца назад +1

      EPIC already does this. People just wanna play the same shit.

    • @CosmicSkyes
      @CosmicSkyes 4 месяца назад +1

      @@SeeDaveRun you have to submit them to be featured like that tho

  • @qasavara21
    @qasavara21 4 месяца назад +9

    thank you for bringing that up. as a map creator, spending thousand of hours trying to be original, publish, and no one playing it because "the most engaging" section or "the most people loved" is the "bla vs bla", some blabla tycon, and another potato-tomato maps. and sadly it turns us also into them, the "let's just mod a lil as long we make the theme is what's popular now". Fortnite is still not a best place for new maps, but i hope it will get better and better.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +3

      My next video is going to be on the most unique maps and I'm specifically searching for maps that feel NOTHING like Fortnite, in a good way. I've been finding some very interesting stuff, although it's been very hard to find.

  • @Toniestbook
    @Toniestbook 4 месяца назад +19

    It’s just roblox 2.0 and honestly not in a good way cause now we have 20% percent of actual cool maps and like 80% being some generic,uninspired,boring,cash grab,false advertising, that literally just follows what’s popular atm

    • @itsbarber3011
      @itsbarber3011 4 месяца назад

      So true honestly

    • @ShadowDdiicey
      @ShadowDdiicey Месяц назад +1

      True but I'm making creative maps soon. And I'm so not copying cuz that's no fun.

  • @theoutsiderjess1869
    @theoutsiderjess1869 3 месяца назад +6

    I miss playground mode. Sometimes I just want to walk around in the map and have fun

  • @thechillgamer6607
    @thechillgamer6607 4 месяца назад +32

    I feel they should nuke 95%of combat maps so we can get actual uefn maps and not "(insert brainrot thing here) box fights number 826379266389397"

    • @Mimik_lmao
      @Mimik_lmao 3 месяца назад +2

      I’ve seen some insanely good combat maps even that only get like 100 players at most but no go goated or the pit gets thousands or the same copy paste red vs blue for the 10 thousand time.

  • @jsrausch22
    @jsrausch22 2 месяца назад +5

    The creative tagging system is such a mess. I just wanna play some fun death runs but I can’t since half of them are just Only Up maps and the other half is Roblox Obbys.

  • @Hipposgrumm
    @Hipposgrumm 4 месяца назад +20

    We need a “Sort by” option with things like “Most Played”, “Most Popular”, and “Newest”.

    • @AceMakes.
      @AceMakes. 3 месяца назад

      these were a Category until the new UI Update for the lobby decided to demolish it. 🥲

  • @ThatGuyNick_YT
    @ThatGuyNick_YT 4 месяца назад +26

    We need to not encourage basic fighting maps and focus on playing actual games that aren’t just red vs blue

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +11

      It's not really about encouraging/discouraging, it's more about improving accessibility of the tools, creating more educational tools, and improving the algorithm. There's a place for basic fighting games, but they shouldn't make up the prominate majority of the front page when there are other options available that people would love to play it they know they existed.

  • @Killerrrb
    @Killerrrb 3 месяца назад +6

    Creative is just so nasty now. It’s used to be so good a few maps for each type of content (fighting , for fun , etc ) & there would be a shit load of people doing whatever you wanted to do whether you loved the map that was on that week or not. Now the only ZW you can get is GOATED which is terrible.

  • @YRNick
    @YRNick 4 месяца назад +3

    Dope seeing our Escape CaseOh game featured in the vid - you're pretty much spot on w everything you mentioned lol

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      I really wanna finish that map, but I honestly keep getting lost and then motion sick trying to figure it out 😅. I'm gonna have to finish it one of these days, because it does start off really well, I'm just bad at horror games lol.

  • @Micha-Hil
    @Micha-Hil 27 дней назад +1

    Feels bad knowing that Battle Lab isn't coming back. It was a fun place to play.

  • @jacopomalatesta4913
    @jacopomalatesta4913 4 месяца назад +3

    Without adding custom items, custom movement and custom inventories you can only make so many variations of existing maps before it gets boring.
    We have to wait for (confirmed) custom items

  • @istoleyunomilesbigmac
    @istoleyunomilesbigmac 4 месяца назад +4

    they should really check the maps that are put on there its even in the policy that maps who are straight up copies of other maps get banned yet they don't really seem to inforce it

  • @ZorMon
    @ZorMon Месяц назад +2

    Epic should limit the number of maps a single user can submit in a time interval, because there is so many accounts flooding the system with low effort copy pastes.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  Месяц назад +2

      There's no limit to how many videos a person can upload on RUclips in any given interval, and yet you don't see your homepage full of random home videos and nonsense. It's more about the algorithm adapting to and learning the players and less about limiting the creators.

  • @ThePSGamerTJPK
    @ThePSGamerTJPK 3 месяца назад +2

    One of the problems is, they should have every prefab and and gallery from chapter 1, chapter 2, and chapter 3, by now

  • @itssmelloww
    @itssmelloww 4 месяца назад +3

    your videos are so well edited and actually get to the point, most entertaining videos ive watched in a while

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much! I've been doin this for a while and I'm having a great time channeling that experience into something new. Happy to see you're liking it!

  • @Richytoons
    @Richytoons Месяц назад

    How do I get this in my recommended 3 months late. I love to see people actually do fortnite creative lore/discussion content. Please keep up the work

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  Месяц назад

      As mentioned, the RUclips algorithm is also not perfect 😂. Thanks for checking it out though! I'm chugging along on another video to go out this week hopefully

  • @tortoiseyeeter7232
    @tortoiseyeeter7232 4 месяца назад +6

    It’s cool that you included mustard plays

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +2

      This would be a very different video if it weren't for Mustard Plays, he's done a LOT for the Creative community and covers more on it than just about anyone

    • @tortoiseyeeter7232
      @tortoiseyeeter7232 4 месяца назад +2

      @@SeeDaveRun I’ve been watching his content for over 4 years

  • @Go-ff4hu
    @Go-ff4hu 4 месяца назад +3

    Finally another video, I've been waiting. - 10K by the end of July.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Fingers crossed 🤞 🔥

  • @SpoilsBTW
    @SpoilsBTW 4 месяца назад +5

    Great video! Looking forward to seeing more like this!

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! Already working on the next map review video

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 Месяц назад

    I used to play Creative Mode to Build my Creations & Relax.
    Now I feel like Epic only cares about the PVP Genre & doesn’t let any other Genre have their time to Shine.
    Creative Mode 2.0 is just all over the place.

  • @kierrawadeson
    @kierrawadeson 4 месяца назад +14

    AYO YOU RECORDED IT IN LAST SEASON WOW. SEASON THREE CAME OUT ON FRIDAY

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +6

      I've been working on this video for weeks 😂. Between work and preparing for a big move, this one was tough, especially with so many things to illustrate

    • @kierrawadeson
      @kierrawadeson 4 месяца назад +1

      @@SeeDaveRuni respect it

    • @NoTimeIsGood
      @NoTimeIsGood 4 месяца назад

      Wdym you used make a seat near the beginning, that came out a few days ago​@@SeeDaveRun

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      But they're right in that I did start this a couple weeks ago, which is why I used last seasons title screen from the trailer when I said "now a year later...".

  • @MrGamer325
    @MrGamer325 Месяц назад

    As a creator since the beginning of fortnite creative, this video encapsulates everything about the state of creative.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  Месяц назад

      Happy to see an OG here. We've seen it come a long way, but it's still growing.

  • @EepyPandi
    @EepyPandi 4 месяца назад +2

    the lumberjack heros map is a little grindy then what I expected but damn is it better then most maps I see which are slop, it gives me hope, and also the fun maps like the snipers vs runners dollhouse and other ones are amazing, just wish that they fixed the lag and stuff with unreal engine change, not even creative maps can optimize it

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      One of the hardest things for them right now I imagine as far as the lag goes, is balancing so many different platforms. They want it to be a great experience on a high end PC with max graphics and fast internet, as well as for someone who's playing it on Switch in the library.

    • @EepyPandi
      @EepyPandi 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun they honestly shouldve checked and optimizated 2 years before hand honestly

  • @HeroOfTime2610
    @HeroOfTime2610 2 месяца назад

    one positive of fortnite creative maps is that we will never be short of infinite xp afk maps which are a literally god send for completing the battlepass and getting to level 200 because it means I don't need to play the game all day everyday I can do other stuff while it slowly and consistently goes up

  • @austenjackson7094
    @austenjackson7094 2 месяца назад

    Something that's a big problem for me is the fact that I'm on OCE servers. I'll join a map that has 1000+ players and will get a lobby with like 3 to 4 people. Because there isn't a cap on the creative library the player base is spread very thin and even more so for people playing on these less populated servers.
    I feel there SHOULD be cap on the number of maps available to play and that these maps are hand picked by a team of Epic employees essentially 'quality controlling' these maps. (because we really don't need any more tycoons or red vs blues). In the creative search tab there should be a max of 5 maps per category to choose from. Epic can then cycle better and newer maps in to replace the older ones to keep things fresh.
    I believer this would only benefit the player because it will encourage UEFN creators to be more innovative and creative too make their maps stand out above the rest in hopes of it been selected. Not only Lobby's will be full but the prevailing maps will actually be good and well designed.

  • @Icyy007
    @Icyy007 4 месяца назад +2

    I am doing maps for youtuber that has 200k subs. And even tho i am working on a disaster+bossfight map the original map that is thematic aim training+small pit+ 1v1+ free builds and it is full of litle secrets but sadly it brokes all the time thanks for updates so i cant work on my next map

    • @Icyy007
      @Icyy007 4 месяца назад

      Okay i may have had a stroke in the middle

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, I was a little concerned for ya there for a second 😂. Fingers crossed you can get it working again here soon. Feel free to send me a map code to check out if it ever goes live!

    • @Icyy007
      @Icyy007 4 месяца назад

      ​@@SeeDaveRun 0762 3850 7849 it is very specific map for the youtuber so you would need a translator here and there. But i am very proud of aim training that i upgraded

  • @xdblynk
    @xdblynk 4 месяца назад +3

    great vid 🔥

  • @SgtSegment
    @SgtSegment 3 месяца назад +1

    as someone with an RX 580 and a crappy cpu worse than a ryzen 5 3600, you do not need a decent pc to run uefn or unreal engine
    btw this videos awesome i subbed

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад +1

      It depends on what you wanna do in UEFN honestly. If you wanna do crazy modeling, animation, and go deep into lighting/VFX like many new creators think will be easy, then yeah you need a beefy setup. But if not, you can get away with less, for sure.
      Also, thanks for subbing!

  • @Wolfnicshadow
    @Wolfnicshadow 3 месяца назад

    Man, I remember back when creative was introduced. Ever since it did, I spent most of my time looking for maps to try out. I used to hop on the creative Island to see how it looked and to find out what maps were highlighted. I miss the days where creative was still evolving back in chapter 1

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      Its still evolving now, just in a different way. Don't give up on it yet.

  • @TheRealCrusadingIdiot
    @TheRealCrusadingIdiot 4 месяца назад

    There are many great maps I played, I feel like the one good thing Epic are doing is the weekly “Epic’s Pick’s.” I feel like that’s the way to go, even if it can be filled with hot garbage sometimes, I’ve seen many small maps grow to thousands of daily players cause of epics picks. Great video!

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      They also feature maps on their RUclips page every week or two, that I think a lot of people miss

    • @TheRealCrusadingIdiot
      @TheRealCrusadingIdiot 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun yeah that’s true, I saw

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 месяца назад +1

    11:12 The official Creator Insider channel actually had the audacity to claim this doesn't happen. One of many lies that channel has spewed.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      Much like they claim tags don't matter in your videos, but I dare you to post a video with zero tags and see how it does

  • @uniquesteel54
    @uniquesteel54 3 месяца назад +1

    I miss the old creative mode

  • @EngineerDJ_Julius
    @EngineerDJ_Julius 3 месяца назад

    my problem is that they drastically cut season XP
    you used to quickly get 5 levels in less than an hour, now the XP you get looks like breadcrumbs

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      I think it depends on what and how you play. When I sit down for a couple hours to play creative maps for my videos, I'll usually get 3 - 5 levels without even trying. This morning I jumped on specifically to do Story and Weekly Quests and in 90min, I had gone up 10 levels. I also play a lot of new, just released creative maps where the XP isn't calibrated yet, so I'll jump on a couple days after playing those and Fornite will be like "We just finished calibrating that map you played the other day, here's 10k XP for your time".

  • @NotNommz
    @NotNommz 4 месяца назад +1

    Creative would be so much greater if it were easier to access like 300 subscribers accessible to publish maps and make the moderation for bad maps better and add more memory budget and just give it a better menu ui

  • @SaBeepah
    @SaBeepah 2 месяца назад

    For me, modes with lots of xp available to gain contributes a lot to me picking it.

  • @NHSSHINOBI
    @NHSSHINOBI 25 дней назад

    My main issue with Fortnite Creative is the menu. Similar to the item shop, the Creative menu feels overwhelming-it's difficult to find Epic games or your recently played games. I really dislike how Fortnite is slowly becoming more like Roblox, with deathruns, tycoons, and other unoriginal modes. It’s honestly annoying.
    Personally, I prefer the practice maps, but I have to find them on RUclips and input their codes manually because I can't stand navigating the Creative homepage.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  25 дней назад

      Yeah, they're definitely working to improve it and I've seen that over the last season, but I still don't understand why it shuffles order every time. That really doesn't make sense.

  • @IsaacHND
    @IsaacHND 3 месяца назад

    8:25 the way bro said "obby" 😭😭

  • @silvialuzmia
    @silvialuzmia 2 месяца назад +1

    Finding interesting map is hard

  • @veryrareveryholy
    @veryrareveryholy 3 месяца назад

    Using the Realm Royale lobby music was so nostalgic broo

  • @pasta1791
    @pasta1791 4 месяца назад

    I feel like the biggest reason people don’t like creative is because Fortnite has made it replace LTMs. I enjoy LTMs way more than creative but I can’t play them anymore because of creative.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +2

      I wouldn't say they replaced them, Fornite wasn't popping out LTMs that often back in the day and we did technically just have a Midas LTM recently that was great. I imagine it's just a man power thing and it's smarter to prio other projects at this point.

  • @LuxuryYodas
    @LuxuryYodas 3 месяца назад +1

    Yeah Fortnite creative algorithm is bullshit which is why people like me, who are skilled with verse/making maps just do commissions for players, which is something you can live off of compared to trying to keep up with the horrid ai generated algorithm

  • @AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHs
    @AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHs 4 месяца назад

    I hate that half the maps on Fortnite creative are just red vs blue clones or the pit clones

  • @yoshigamertv
    @yoshigamertv 3 месяца назад

    To comment on the last section about the yt algorithm of some guy curating the top videos: there’s something similar on scratch called an FPC. A user applies to become the ‘Front Page Curator’, and they choose 5 projects every day for a week to be on the front page. This might be a good idea to incorporate in to Fortnite somehow. Epic’s picks is similar, but with this the users get to choose what maps are good.

  • @vangame10
    @vangame10 3 месяца назад

    For me, one of the biggest problems is that only those who have creator code can create maps...
    In addition to only those who have a PC being able to have the creative 2.0 tools (such as the terrain editor)

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад +1

      Getting a creator code is not hard. You apply on their website and I got approved in a day. You have to be 18, but that's a legal thing. Stop building up these artificial roadblocks in front of yourself and go build something cool! You can still do great stuff in Creative Mode.

    • @vangame10
      @vangame10 3 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun I'm not talking about the creator code itself, I'm talking about the stage of being a content creator, there are so many people who are good at creative, but they can't do it because they don't have the goal of followers.

    • @vangame10
      @vangame10 3 месяца назад

      Sorry if I make mistakes in English, I'm Brazilian 😅

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      No need to apologize, I'm not givin ya crap for that, you're all good! So just to clarify though because there's some terminology mix up here - In order to publish Creative/UEFN maps, you simply apply on the website and you get a Creator Code. That code is just to track you as a map developer and allows you to earn money from your maps, it has nothing to do with followers. Now, if you want to have a Support-A-Creator code that people can enter in the item shop, then yes, you need to have a certain amount of followers on a particular platform and they need to review your content. This is because they're offering you a chance to earn money essentially based on how much you promote the game and they track this based on how often people use your Support-A-Creator code. You need a certain amount of followers, because otherwise you clearly don't have a large enough fan base to even show you're a good promoter of the game.
      They're two totally different things.

    • @vangame10
      @vangame10 3 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun Thank you, now I understand 😄

  • @DriftingLightsOVD
    @DriftingLightsOVD 4 месяца назад

    Honestly I have been having a lot of fun just creating arena FFA maps with cool themes.
    Ngl, a part of me does want the map to pop off but at the end of the day, it's more important for me as a Creator to know that I have built and finished a map design I've had in my mind.
    Especially making the trailers! the trailers are a blast, getting all the footage, piecing it all together, and being able to witness the creation by my hands!
    The last time we talked really inspired me to recognize the craft at hand, rather than the numbers. I really appreciate you for that, man!

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm glad I could help and I'm happy to hear you're still enjoying it! Always feel free to drop codes when you've got new maps, would love to check them out.

    • @DriftingLightsOVD
      @DriftingLightsOVD 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun Most definitely! I will let you know as soon as I drop the next map pack

    • @DriftingLightsOVD
      @DriftingLightsOVD 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun it's not a new map, but I have got a new showcase trailer if you would like to check that out

  • @inserthandleincaseofemergency
    @inserthandleincaseofemergency 3 месяца назад

    i adore you for actually using classic theme future remix. One of, jf not the most underrated songs in the game.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      Couldn't agree more!

  • @lesleydarell6999
    @lesleydarell6999 4 месяца назад

    this video has inspired me to download uefn and make use of my half term time and pc

  • @vherostar
    @vherostar 4 месяца назад

    The problem for me with creative is fortnite still support the switch, due to this the sizes on maps are simply too reastrictive to do any advanced games or games with lots of non-basic repeatable content. Like a map I enjoy valhalla its a full blown RPG but it has 5 maps (there's been 3 coming soon maps for a long time) and its maxed is resources, even with basic fortnite textures. This is because of the switch holding creative back. Once they finally drop support of the switch Or allow non switch maps creative will explode in what we can do with maps. UEFN was a cool idea but with those restrictions UEFN maps are even smaller. Look at the demo maps epic gave, they looked cool like the one with the dragon but they were very small due to restrictions. This has led to the most popular maps being simple and easy to dupe so we are flooded with 1000's of tycoon games that play exactly the same just with a new theme.

  • @espiritogeek
    @espiritogeek 4 месяца назад

    i created a few reeally beautiful maps with original game survival mechanics and all.. i hope all my team's hard work pays off and people can have a chance to enjoy our games, but it seems there are going to be a few setbacks since its this UEFN stuff is still pretty new and Epic must be dealing with A LOT of new submissions everyday.. curious to see how this is all going to play out..

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      Can you send me codes when you have them? My next video is specifically covering unique Fornite maps that feel as far from "traditional" Fortnite as possible. Would love to check it out and potentially feature it!

  • @Halo_Gravity_Hammer
    @Halo_Gravity_Hammer 4 месяца назад

    Remember seeing this map with a red vs blue thumbnail, im not kidding they ripped off the red vs blue helmet thingy im sure if anyone has heard of red vs blue knows what im yapping about, and they didnt even give credit or anything, one map i do like that i discovered was a halo on halo mode remade in fortnite pretty fun

  • @Maveche
    @Maveche 2 месяца назад

    Great vid, this is a problem for years and made me uninstall eventually. I just want to play mini-battle royale maps or different call of duty type gamemodes.

  • @Agony.
    @Agony. 3 месяца назад +1

    They killed battle lab, for this.

  • @grillecheeseobamasandwich2222
    @grillecheeseobamasandwich2222 4 месяца назад +2

    all i want is an easier way to gain access to publishing maps, its so annoying how i have to sign papers and do the tax thing whatever whatever, i dont want to be paid, i just want to publish the maps i spent time on.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      I mean it takes like 10min to do and I was approved the next day, it's really not that complicated. And I understand you don't want to get paid, but the fact is that Epic is making money off of the maps we make. They attract people to play the game which encourages them to spend money in the store. If they're making money off of us, we deserve a cut of it.

    • @grillecheeseobamasandwich2222
      @grillecheeseobamasandwich2222 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun you need to be 18 or over to publish maps, thats the main problem with me

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      That's due to laws on that matter being different state to state and country to country. You can still have your parent make an account though and publish your map under them.

    • @grillecheeseobamasandwich2222
      @grillecheeseobamasandwich2222 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun also too much hassle to go through it with my parents, they dont know what paperwork theyre signing

  • @AceMakes.
    @AceMakes. 3 месяца назад

    Couldn't of had said it better, felt like I just watched a documentary!

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      I used to produce documentaries back in the day, but none were as popular as these Fortnite videos 😂

  • @drewbear_07
    @drewbear_07 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish they would add some of the UEFA tools to creative mainly the large terrain, editing area, and a simple camera device that you could use to make cut scenes if they just give me those I feel like I can make whatever I wanted and be satisfied. I also wish there was a way to publish maps and not have to make money off of them as long as somebody was able to verify that the map wasn’t inappropriate or something that was gonna waste peoples time. I make a lot of battle Royale and TDM maps but I’m not able to publish them at all because I’m not able to be part of the program on my so I make a lot of maps, but I’m not able to do anything with them because I can’t publish them and my friends never wanna play

  • @damgaronfire
    @damgaronfire 4 месяца назад

    Man this video is really really nice, there isn't a really right answer, you think about solution that aren't obviously THE best, but damn, it's really good.
    That's the type of quality I want to have when I write an essay.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Thank you! Yeah, when I was in school, I would go crazy overboard on my essays -- the teachers did NOT appreciate it 😂

  • @Trev_Swen
    @Trev_Swen 4 месяца назад

    I think it's great!
    It sorta rewards creativity. Those who invest a lot of time into making a creative map can earn money when others play on it. Also, if Battle Royale gets boring after a few matches you can jump to a creative map without leaving Fortnite while still using the same cosmetics. It's a win win for the player

  • @Ixcotv715
    @Ixcotv715 Месяц назад

    UEFN has the issue of not only being quite hard for begginers but also why would I do it for fortnite when you can run Unreal Editor and be an actual game developer

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  Месяц назад

      UEFN offers new developers the opportunity to small concepts or test out ideas for larger future projects in a space where there's a built in audience and accessible platform that allows you to make money from it as well. You're welcome to go make your own full game in UE5, but if you're new to it, figuring out where you're going to publish that final product, how you're going to promote it, or even if you have an audience for it, is rather daunting.

  • @fpsmess
    @fpsmess 3 месяца назад

    love creative. there needs to be a rating system for players that isn't just a like button. also would be good if there was an indicator to show if you've played a map before.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  3 месяца назад

      If there were a proper rating system, people would troll the hell out of it, so I don't think that's a good idea

    • @fpsmess
      @fpsmess 3 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun ah yeah that is true

  • @FuelFire
    @FuelFire 4 месяца назад

    When scrolling through the gamemode menu in the lobby, all of the creative stuff looks the same. The same bullshit all over again, everywhere. And they expect me to play anything else than BR and StW?

  • @ghastmen.
    @ghastmen. 4 месяца назад

    it so sad a lot of good maps with lot of detail, work in it and no one plays it only this sh*t maps the game shows you all the time

  • @troydoesstuff3443
    @troydoesstuff3443 4 месяца назад

    This guy is genuinely so underrated. W video man!

  • @NotReks
    @NotReks 4 месяца назад +2

    UEFN is far more capable too than people give it credit for, many people disregard stuff as impossible but you can quite literally make whole new (Non Fortnite) games with it, I've rebuilt a Sonic The Hedgehog engine inside of UEFN and it's fully playable as if you downloaded and are playing a sonic game, just takes time, alongside the algorithm being entirely against innovation and fully for repurposed maps.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Can you share that map code with me? I would love to check it out! I'm a Sega Genesis kid, so I'll jump on any Sonic stuff.

    • @NotReks
      @NotReks 4 месяца назад +1

      @@SeeDaveRunyeah sure but I can’t dm u on the bird app that became an X (comments seem to be deleting lmao)

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Can you drop the code here? Also, why can't you DM on X? Did they remove that or something? Making me feel behind on the times 😂

    • @gatewaybois
      @gatewaybois Месяц назад

      That sounds cool

  • @bigminifridge
    @bigminifridge 4 месяца назад

    Algorithm was so good 6ish months ago. You could post a new 1v1 map and make $10k on day one if you were lucky. Not that I ever experienced this but it was awesome that some people got that.
    I think the issue right now is that there are just too many tabs in discover. There are tabs for niche categories that shouldn’t be there, that’s what browse is for.
    This discourages users from playing new maps as looking through a bunch of unfun non-combat maps is a hassle.
    there are 8 tabs of “players like these maps” that are without a real category, just categories based on random metrics. Zonewars and boxfights tabs need to be moved up because it is proven players like those maps and have high retention and spending per player with those.
    Fortnite is disregarding its main player base of people who like to build.

  • @Yosif3
    @Yosif3 4 месяца назад

    My main problem with creative is that Epic is trying to focus more on creative than on battle royale, My favourite thing about Fortnite is its story but with how much epic is focusing on creative mode the story is non-existent in chapter 5.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, that is a real shame and something that Donald Mustard addressed when he left. I personally was really excited for the story they were building for Chapter 3, but watching it slowly turn into nonsense was really disappointing.

  • @jimmynackers
    @jimmynackers 2 месяца назад +1

    Video is very well done and enjoyable to listen to!!

  • @calmauthumn1808
    @calmauthumn1808 4 месяца назад

    good video bro, you can see the effort and dedication you put into it, new sub

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Welcome aboard! Glad you liked it!

  • @ZX_64
    @ZX_64 4 месяца назад

    I just want more natural zone war as well as gun games

  • @T54-d7d
    @T54-d7d 4 месяца назад

    I think another thing is the creative is so incredibly overwhelming now compared to when it released one thing they could do is bring back that menu when you load up the game that asks if you want to load into creative br or stw it would just help separate the things and make it less overwhelming

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      I think the old menu would separate things a little too much, but I would appreciate at least having the main modes stay locked at the top instead of getting buried after I play a few creative maps

    • @egel7736
      @egel7736 4 месяца назад

      I think that’d be a horrible move for Creative. Even though I personally detest seeing Creative games recommended to me in the bottom of the screen while waiting in the Battle Royale lobby, that’s precisely how Epic can seduce BR players into exploring Creative.

  • @dpslaughter1898
    @dpslaughter1898 4 месяца назад

    My only problem is how it overwhelms everything and how you get to it on the ui it needs it seperate space and the other main Fortnite game moods

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      If it's too separate though, you run into an "out of sight, out of mind" situation, which would likely result in even fewer players in Creative. Bad news.

  • @2DreamyAngel
    @2DreamyAngel 4 месяца назад

    This video is really well edited and entertaining had to drop a sub for that! Keep it up :D

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! Already working on the next one

  • @xavierxse
    @xavierxse 4 месяца назад

    when good maps get underlooked and instead red vs blue and 3v3 get 20k players daily

  • @KobraArab
    @KobraArab 3 месяца назад +1

    That's not Fortnite Creative, That's Fortblox

  • @BaretheReaper
    @BaretheReaper 4 месяца назад

    Amazing and very in depth video, I do feel like the only thing we can do as players is just wait and voice our opinions, fortnite creative is far from what it was at the beginning know it's only gonna get better, and the day that I see no red v blue flooding everything will be a great one

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      I'm glad you enjoyed it! And happy to hear the message came across well. We'll make the most of the journey, there's still plenty of fun to be had in the mean time.

  • @britishduck
    @britishduck 2 месяца назад

    I think it was the "pros" that ruined creative. Before, creative was fun with with death runs, cool fun maps, and now there's over a million competitive maps. Red v Blue, Pit, Box PVP, Go Goated, etc etc etc. Nothing different. The competitive side came to creative and flooded. Then there's a lot of cash grab, poorly made maps (most comp maps imo), and "brain rot" maps. People need to be CREATIVE and standout to be different. Just get rid of most competitive maps, little amount of copied maps. Like one Red v Blue, one Box PVP, etc.

    • @Midwayferrari
      @Midwayferrari Месяц назад

      I don’t think the competitive side is an issue. 90% of players play the same 10-15 comp maps. Pandvil box fights, bhe 1v1, zone wars (3v3/4v4) and such.

  • @Frivoloon
    @Frivoloon 4 месяца назад

    Dude, this is some quality content, was expecting way more subs.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Ya gotta start somewhere, right? I appreciate you checking it out and I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Sparkdogg2020
    @Sparkdogg2020 3 месяца назад

    The only creative maps i play are horror games with the boys loads of fun but there arent that many good ones anymore most of them are to puzzely

  • @JackTrahanOfficial
    @JackTrahanOfficial 4 месяца назад +2

    We need in game V-Buck purchases for Epic to really
    Make revenue from it and I’m speaking for epic. Not that I would want this. Maybe they could give 50% of profits from Vbucks profits to the creator instead of spending money to give with nothing gotten

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +2

      Do you mean allow creators to sell things in their island for v-bucks?

    • @kierrawadeson
      @kierrawadeson 4 месяца назад +4

      @@SeeDaveRunif so than NOPE

    • @WoahCalypso
      @WoahCalypso 4 месяца назад

      absolutely not, it will create even more consumer fatigue

    • @JackTrahanOfficial
      @JackTrahanOfficial 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun Yes

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +2

      I think the only way that could realistically work is if there were a VERY strict creator program where developers could apply after meeting a number of other criterias based on the performance of their existing maps, and then Epic could hand pick a few every once in a while to create approved pieces of content that they could feature on a special tab in the store. I believe Fallout 4 or Fallout 76 did something similar.

  • @ThatGuyNick_YT
    @ThatGuyNick_YT 4 месяца назад +3

    I WAS IN THE VIDEO

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад +1

      You were! Don't let it happen again! jk
      Thanks for the support!

    • @ThatGuyNick_YT
      @ThatGuyNick_YT 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun I’ve never been more honored to be called “a piece of shi-“ lol. You raised a good point after that though I have to say

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      If I'm being honest, I originally had a few other jokes in my script where I was raggin on you, but I removed them because I didn't want people to think I was ACTUALLY bullying some random dude 😂.

    • @ThatGuyNick_YT
      @ThatGuyNick_YT 4 месяца назад +1

      @@SeeDaveRun please release a directors cut you have my blessing

  • @Gamerfortnite12345
    @Gamerfortnite12345 4 месяца назад

    I hate how horror maps seem scary but their not

  • @Meletion1
    @Meletion1 4 месяца назад

    Man, I miss the bot Grenades.

  • @pigylord
    @pigylord 3 месяца назад

    Its wasted potential when new tools are added people just add new powers to their box fight red vs blue or zonewars ect.

  • @kingofshaduws
    @kingofshaduws 4 месяца назад +1

    Cant wait for fall guys to come in fortnite and get hit with fall guys red vs blue

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Jokes aside though, very excited for the possibilities that'll come from that. Imagine Red v Blue, but it's just a big team obstacle course.

    • @kingofshaduws
      @kingofshaduws 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun I mean rn all of them are the same but with different themes

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      But they're not gonna have you use guns in Fall Guys maps, so we'll get some new stuff out of it

    • @kingofshaduws
      @kingofshaduws 4 месяца назад

      @@SeeDaveRun they probebly make it a place with a lot of holes and you have to grab players to death

  • @thebruhbluebunnie8466
    @thebruhbluebunnie8466 4 месяца назад

    Fortnite sees its UEFN as sth similar Roblox studio. But the thing is that compared to Roblox, Fortnite is like a baby when it comes to algorithms with the maps,the difficulty of the tools that developers use, and the technical capabilities. For i I'd give UEFN some time to mature and be more user friendly for it to let people more easily make maps that are like the demonstrations.

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      It can only get so easy, there's always going to be a skill gap. There's no shortcut to modeling your own characters and learning how to create believable animation sequences.

  • @drewbear_07
    @drewbear_07 4 месяца назад

    I wish there was a way to be able to publish maps without needing a whole code and everything like that

  • @thecrimebookman
    @thecrimebookman 4 месяца назад

    I still wanna upload my map, but I don't wanna give my social security 😭

  • @owenkuhnke3785
    @owenkuhnke3785 4 месяца назад

    It needs some cleaning up. I wanna see 2-3 red vs blue maps. Not 50. Childish things like “obby” or skibidi tycoon type maps give this game a bad image

  • @MrwhopperGaming10
    @MrwhopperGaming10 4 месяца назад

    We thought this would be amazing but legit UEFN cant be used on consoles, only pcs which was sad for everyone

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      Every week or two, they add new devices that are accessible in regular Creative that allow you to do more things though that you could never do before. Some Creators still swear by editing only on console because that's what they got used to, but I personally will only use UEFN moving forward.

  • @Joabe-e7b
    @Joabe-e7b 3 месяца назад

    Who remember when the creative was only avaliable for who got the battle pass?

    • @mahirulascesni4949
      @mahirulascesni4949 2 месяца назад

      Sadly 😅, I never thought of it being free a few days later 😂😂

  • @HamalgamUB
    @HamalgamUB 29 дней назад

    3:50 UEFN is not that difficult. I'm 15 and have been making games in unreal for two years and it's not like you need to program to make maps in fortnite. Also a $2000 pc is not necessary, you will be just fine with something like a gtx 1060 (probably easy to find included in a pc worth less than $500). For those looking to make maps in fortnite UEFN literally just learn regular unreal engine first there isn't really anything specific to UEFN and it will become a cakewalk once you know basics in Unreal.

  • @void_cozmo5424
    @void_cozmo5424 4 месяца назад

    The problem is that i don't have a map code and i actually make good and enjoyable maps instead of this garbage on the explore page

    • @SeeDaveRun
      @SeeDaveRun  4 месяца назад

      I imagine you're not 18, which is why you don't have a map code. But nothing stopping you from having your parent create an account and publish the map for you. If your confident you've got something great, get it out there!

  • @CAPTAIN-PET
    @CAPTAIN-PET 3 месяца назад

    Basically throw all that out the door and make a red vs blue, they are really popular.

    • @CAPTAIN-PET
      @CAPTAIN-PET 3 месяца назад

      Because they don’t take much effort and are easy to make (Moore than other maps)

    • @CAPTAIN-PET
      @CAPTAIN-PET 3 месяца назад

      More easy*

    • @Midwayferrari
      @Midwayferrari Месяц назад

      Those games are super delayed