It's South Korea... it never made sense in the first place. Although, I don't really care either way, I don't like Twitch in the first place. And people should go outside more, not me, I said people...
South Korea doesn't have net neutrality. One of South Korea's ISPs is a chaebol, so they can basically do whatever they want, and the government will basically be okay with it.
Honestly, might lead to a revival of RUclips popularity. So many RUclips channels have slowly shifted into basically just streaming on twitch, so I imagine, at least for Korean content creators, that they'll of course stream on RUclips, and since they're already doing streams and uploading VODs, may as well start/restart cutting those up into short form RUclips style videos again. I never got into watching streams, so I'm all for a youtuber revival.
해외 게임과 관련된 대부분의 방송이나 이벤트가 모두 트위치에서 열리는데 한국만 여기서 제외된다는 건 게임 산업의 갈라파고스화를 불러일으킬 거임. 이미 3N으로 인해 가속화되던 게 더욱 박차를 가할 거고 이미 메타나 스팀 등 주요 게임사는 심의 문제 등으로 인해 한국에 출시를 하지 않거나 한글화하던 걸 지원 그만 두는 경우도 늘어나고 있음. 미래 먹거리 산업? 한국 정부와 통신3사가 스스로 발로 차버린 거나 다름 없다 너희가 더 통제하려고 할 수록 더 벗어나려고 할 거야
This might be related to internal politics/international relations about 'network usage fee' which is also shown in this video's hashtag. The result is a pain for us(Koreans) that the nation and its MAIN 3 ISP companies kept aggressively forcing network usage fees on foreign companies at very high costs. Based on a statistics price sheet from 2019. NA/EU Average costs $0.08/Mbps. South Korea costs $2.50/Mbps, which is 31 times expensive than NA/EU. Also, the highest price from all nations. We all had this debate/trials on court(facebook, netflix and other foreign companies) etc. However, the people who enforced this network usage fee law are all-in one group of people. Politicians(Voting on that fee/Lobbyist) 3 ISP companies(Connected trustees of the nations mostly provided ISPs in SK) The Government(...) Why do us commoners have to face this bizarre fate?(Twitch Korea's was having issues few years ago and gets crumbled this year)
Sadly this is clearly a move from South Korea Gov to monopolize game streaming and such. Twitch can easily survive in other countries, even in Japan that is far more isolated from the rest of the world, the only reason to raise the costs so much is to make Twitch leave legally, is a criminal act, but is approved from the government, so it isn't. Even 3rd world countries can have Twitch, SK is a 1st world country. I'm sad to hear this news, Great Moon Aroma is the only korean streamers I watch regularly and only discovered him recently.
Sorry, as a person of SK mainland that cannot stop the powers of 3 ISP companies backed by the nation and its politicians..who made this network usage fee related law approved.
@@Ritter3173 sorry for what? is not your fault this is corruption and media manipulation, clear and simple, is much bigger than us and can't be stopped
@@VooXooThat is also true but after Twitch Korea downgraded its services to 720p, no VODs and no clippings. Korean people were like "Service dying getting real?" and boom. We felt like "Did we bystand this issue?" at some point. Cause, there were lots of internal issue youtubers uploading about them(netflix, google, youtube, twitch etc) the recent 1~5 years. Whether it be video material or summarized documentary form. The issue was on the run for years.(Least 5 years)
became small china or similar north korea lol. Someone said, "If you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." And that makes sense. Because it is actually adjacent to those countries.
because all the ways able to earn the income on TWICH are banned, setting VPN is useless. If Moon go to USA or UK or AUS, CAN this problem will be solved. if it possible.
Yes it's due to South Korean Internet providers charging large amounts of money for companies to have their service operating in South Korea apparently Netflix also has had thoughts of ending service in South korea and there is no laws that restrict their ability to charge as much as they want in South Korea
치지직 이름 진짜 그지같은건 팩트긴 해요. 지금 대부분의 스트리머들이 이름구리다고 까고있고 실제로 발음 하기에도 안좋아서 브랜드 네이밍 적으로도 안좋음. 특히 트위치에서 방송하는 정소림 캐스터도 구체적으로 왜 이 이름이 구린지 발성학적으로 문제라고 까기도 했고. 네이밍 다시 지어야됨 진짜. 누가 네이밍 정할때 담당한진 몰라도 감이 너무 없음.
It's stuff like this and what happened with ID streamers vis-a-vis games, that really brings in why old people have no place in govs, running our future. It's ludicrous to expect old people who are stuck in their ways (often wrong and illicit ways) to be of any value to the future of a country, let alone the planet at large. I mean, look at Japan. Their minister of cybersecurity admitted he'd never touched a PC. That's like me, an architect... coming out to say i've never used a ruler in my life. It just boggles the mind. This has HUGE, huge consequences not only in Korea, but globally and not only that, but for net-neutrality as well. I'm saying it. Old people have no place deciding the future, especially when their priorities don't even align with those of the masses. What's being done in Korea, is straight up legalized theft. Like guardsmen sitting by the two ends of a bridge and first taxing you for getting ON the bridge and then taxing you for getting OFF the bridge.
It makes absolutely no sense why would a company have to pay internet providers for the service their clients are paying for.
Politics are dumb. Laws are dumb some times...
It's South Korea... it never made sense in the first place.
Although, I don't really care either way, I don't like Twitch in the first place. And people should go outside more, not me, I said people...
greed and stupidity
@@livedandletdie The "not me" is crazy
South Korea doesn't have net neutrality. One of South Korea's ISPs is a chaebol, so they can basically do whatever they want, and the government will basically be okay with it.
굳세어라 대월향
앞일은 어떻게 될지는 모르는거에요
보다 더 좋은 일이 많길 바래야 하는거에요
힘내요 😂
Dude I'm so sorry. I hope things get better. You're far to nice and kind to have this happen to you. I wish you all the luck in the world.
아오 진짜 타이밍이 이렇게 되네 ㅠㅠ 치지직이든 유트브든 따라가서 응원할테니깐 힘내세요!
궁금한 게 이분 한국인가요.. 볼 때마다 헷갈려요..
@@침침1대월향님은 한국분이십니당
@@Myunsam ㅇㅎ! 감사합니다:)
ㄋㄇㄩㄍ
@@AZHawkins-mu7kd ?
Just marry leaf and move with her
Underrated Comment
What a nice idea! LOL
ur genius
Big brain
Lmao 😂😂
다만 치지직 관계자 말로는 막방이라고 진짜 이상한거 하다가 밴먹으면, 옮길 때 패널티가 있을 수도 있다고 하니 하지는 맙시다..
와우;;
진짴ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 외국인들도 웃을정돈데 진짜 네이버 작명센스가 참ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
앱은 더 가관임
네이버 게임즈 이였는데 바뀜 망할
Honestly, might lead to a revival of RUclips popularity. So many RUclips channels have slowly shifted into basically just streaming on twitch, so I imagine, at least for Korean content creators, that they'll of course stream on RUclips, and since they're already doing streams and uploading VODs, may as well start/restart cutting those up into short form RUclips style videos again.
I never got into watching streams, so I'm all for a youtuber revival.
also beeing able to go back in youtube streams or just pausing and going higher speed when you get back is a feature still missing on twitch
Or stream on Kick since it basically Twitch dashboard
Me supporting moon to leaf for 3 years:
Just get married already!
I took a break from the channel are they dating?
@@Nechroblade No...I guess?
해외 게임과 관련된 대부분의 방송이나 이벤트가 모두 트위치에서 열리는데 한국만 여기서 제외된다는 건 게임 산업의 갈라파고스화를 불러일으킬 거임. 이미 3N으로 인해 가속화되던 게 더욱 박차를 가할 거고 이미 메타나 스팀 등 주요 게임사는 심의 문제 등으로 인해 한국에 출시를 하지 않거나 한글화하던 걸 지원 그만 두는 경우도 늘어나고 있음. 미래 먹거리 산업? 한국 정부와 통신3사가 스스로 발로 차버린 거나 다름 없다 너희가 더 통제하려고 할 수록 더 벗어나려고 할 거야
그냥 예전처럼 토렌트 강대국 되는거죠뭐...
한국 통신사 진짜 엎어야하는데 법이 개판이라 하...이런 그지같은 나라
땅 위치는 좋지만 사람이 좋지 않다
...땅 위치가 좋다구요? 주변에 죄다 적밖에 없는데
그런가
@@guest-whale 북한 밑에 황사싸개 옆에 태풍까지 다받는데 땅 참 좋노
@@guest-whale 북한 밑에 황사싸개 옆에 태풍까지 다받는데 땅 참 좋노
This might be related to internal politics/international relations about 'network usage fee' which is also shown in this video's hashtag.
The result is a pain for us(Koreans) that the nation and its MAIN 3 ISP companies kept aggressively forcing network usage fees on foreign companies at very high costs.
Based on a statistics price sheet from 2019.
NA/EU Average costs $0.08/Mbps.
South Korea costs $2.50/Mbps, which is 31 times expensive than NA/EU. Also, the highest price from all nations.
We all had this debate/trials on court(facebook, netflix and other foreign companies) etc.
However, the people who enforced this network usage fee law are all-in one group of people.
Politicians(Voting on that fee/Lobbyist)
3 ISP companies(Connected trustees of the nations mostly provided ISPs in SK)
The Government(...)
Why do us commoners have to face this bizarre fate?(Twitch Korea's was having issues few years ago and gets crumbled this year)
Never give up bro.
트위치 섭종하면.. 외국스트리머도 못보고.. 거의 통제되는 느낌이랄까… 트위치에 내가 좋아하는 스트리머들 다 모여있었는데.. 그걸 다 찢어놨어!!아악아각ㄱ
좀 뎃이 오래되긴 했는데 구글 아이디나 애플 아이디를 미국으로 설정하고 트위치를 깔면 다운이 되서 그걸로 보면 볼 수 있어요
I was wondering what gonna happened to you after hearing that ban... I'm glad you can still stream on youtube
ok I need a moon and kobo collab, it'd be perfect
Moon HAS collabed with Ollie so it should be easy for him to Collab with Kobo
@@GoldRichness Moon, Ollie, Kobo, Merryweather, and a person from Moon's group for a 5 man. Playing OW2? lol
@@Ravngor that would be hilarious
ㅋㅋㅋㄲㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
어떻게 이름이 치지직?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
치지직으로 스트리머들 다 끌어 들이다가 어느정도 정착한다면 규제 맘대로 바꾸고 구글한테 망사용료 다시 압박 넣을거 같은데...
내 생각이 맞지 않기를 바랄 뿐입니다.
왜 망사용료를 통신사들이 다 쳐먹는지 모르겠네.... 그냥 싹 다 망했으면..
치지직은 진짜 이름 잘못지었어 ㅋㅋㅋ
개성있긴한데 누구한테 알려주려면 이름에 대한 추가적인 설명이 필요해 ㅋㅋㅋ
4:00 같은 서비스씬 센스 확실하네요 👍👍 이왕 이렇게 된거 팝콘갑시다 😆😆
진짜 이러한 현실이 정말 개떡같아서 화나고 슬픕니다 대월향님 처럼 해외 스트리머분들과 소통하시는분들은 저 폭군들때문에 강제로 헤어지게 되시게 되는거잖습니까?
저놈(통신3사)들은 이런전 쥐뿔도 모르겠지 망할놈들
Moon's hilarious istg 😅
but also the line "you helped me get these boobas" 😂
이게 솔직한 반응이지 ㅅㅂ 치지직이 뭐냐
@Shiina_mota 뜻 말고 발음이 문제 트위치를 대신하겠다면서 발음이 쉽지 않은 이름을 골라서 문제..
ㅇㅇ 뭔 감전됐냐고
형 시청자 주로 외국 분들일 텐데 어떡해요 ㅠㅠㅠ
리피안 개천재임?
ㄹㅇ 외국 사는 사람 한명 구해서 디코 공유로 화면키고 서드파티 그대로 후원 받으면 되겠는데
😢
한국인 시청자가 없음
4:01 경멸하는 리프 ㅋㅋㅋ
언젠가는 트위치가 다시 한국에 복귀하길 바랍니다 ㅠㅠ 너무 아쉽네요
헬조선에 빛은 없다...
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ@@Jb_9087
응 안돼~
아마존이 못들어오는 이상 트위치는 다시 못들어올듯요. 모기업이 장사를 못하니 부기업이 감당할 재간이.....
Sadly this is clearly a move from South Korea Gov to monopolize game streaming and such.
Twitch can easily survive in other countries, even in Japan that is far more isolated from the rest of the world, the only reason to raise the costs so much is to make Twitch leave legally, is a criminal act, but is approved from the government, so it isn't.
Even 3rd world countries can have Twitch, SK is a 1st world country.
I'm sad to hear this news, Great Moon Aroma is the only korean streamers I watch regularly and only discovered him recently.
Sorry, as a person of SK mainland that cannot stop the powers of 3 ISP companies backed by the nation and its politicians..who made this network usage fee related law approved.
@@Ritter3173 sorry for what? is not your fault
this is corruption and media manipulation, clear and simple, is much bigger than us and can't be stopped
@@VooXooThat is also true but after Twitch Korea downgraded its services to 720p, no VODs and no clippings. Korean people were like "Service dying getting real?" and boom.
We felt like "Did we bystand this issue?" at some point. Cause, there were lots of internal issue youtubers uploading about them(netflix, google, youtube, twitch etc) the recent 1~5 years.
Whether it be video material or summarized documentary form. The issue was on the run for years.(Least 5 years)
It's true. I'm Korean.
became small china or similar north korea lol. Someone said, "If you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." And that makes sense. Because it is actually adjacent to those countries.
다른나라 다 앞서서 vr 컨탠츠 개인방송 하고 있는데 인터넷 기업 똥꼬를 빨아주는냐고 미래 먹거리에 똥을 뿌리는 국회 멋지다!
집에 자식들 다있는데 가장만 쫓겨남
Bro. Just marry Leaf 그냥 리프랑 결혼해
Wouldn't using a VPN and setting your location to America be a way around the whole Twitch in Korea thing?
But it'll be very laggy...
chatting delay will disturb streaming, maybe
Steamer income would be a problem.
because all the ways able to earn the income on TWICH are banned, setting VPN is useless. If Moon go to USA or UK or AUS, CAN this problem will be solved. if it possible.
Too virus..😂
글로벌 시청자 대상으로 하던 형이 ㅠㅠ
에잉 그지같은 통신3사, 국회 같으니.. 잘되던 외국기업 하나를 도망가게 해버리네
대월향이라고 블루 점프 CEO라는 사람인데 아니 글쎄 본인이 사는집이 완전히 불타버렸어😮😮😮
이렇게된거 이민가버립시다
This is not the end.
This is the start of a new beginning.
Welcome to Chuubas Season 4: Korea Rising Arc!
아프리카에서 하는거 보고 뭐하는 사람일가 궁금해서 왓는데 유튭 웃기네
확실히 다른건 아직 안봣지만 유튭 스타일이 외국식인거같음 그래도 재미있음 ㅋㅋㅋ
통신사들의 변명이 제일 가관이었죠 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
그럼 이 분들이랑 다른 분들은 더이상 못 보는 건가요..ㅠ
3:03
There's a saying that "Dont bite the hand that feeds", what would this be?
사이버펑크2077 살까 생각 중이였는데 그럴필요가 없네. 내가 사는곳이 사이버펑크야.
생각해보니 진짜 월향이는 타격이 크겠다..
중간중간 영언데 한국발음 들려서 웃으면 안되는데 웃기닼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
치지직 검열 생각하시고 들어가셔야해요.
통신사가 문제가 많아...
아... 부바 뜻을 이제서야 알게됨.... 역시 대월향님... ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 너무 웃기고 재밌습니다. ..
i hear that TWITCH will be stopped in korean, that is real ?
Yes it's due to South Korean Internet providers charging large amounts of money for companies to have their service operating in South Korea apparently Netflix also has had thoughts of ending service in South korea and there is no laws that restrict their ability to charge as much as they want in South Korea
There's a crackdown that looks similar to Twitch. Take a look moon
name is “ kick “
형 진짜 키스숏을 여친으로 데려다니던 때가 엇그제같은데..
진짜 VR 여친과 친구들한테 위로받고 진짜 큰 조언받는 모습보니까 새삼스럽지만
너무 크게 좋게 변한거같다😂
Welcome back to RUclips 🎉
아, 우리는 당신을 그리워할 것입니다!
유튜브 라이브 또는 비딩딩에서의 활약도 기대하고있어요😂
Whats this new streaming service called? O_O?
치지직
@@담비64u067mE 나는 한국어를 할 수 없습니다. 영어로 받을 수 있나요?
@@AAK540it’s name is Chzzk
옛날이 그립다 단순히 밈들로 장난쳐서 반응보고 그러는 ㅠㅠ
요즘은 그런건없고 대화나 맵탐험만 나와서 물론 그게 싥은건 아니지만 그래도 옛날의 단순재미가 그립다
치지직 이름이 좃구리긴해ㅋㅋ
누가지었냐? 엎드려뻗혀라ㄹㅇ
2:31 이거 이제보니 진짜 천재같은 발상인데ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
대월향님 1년 전부터 유튜브 보던 시청자 입니다. 핵심만 말하자면 저는 월향님이 어디로 가셔도 괜찮을 것 같아요.(유튜브만 빼고:생방송으로는 적합하지 않아서요) 그리고 중간에 나온 해외로 가시는 것도 저는 응원합니다❤
항상 맛좋은 영상으로 기다리겠습니다.
Ahora Moon se irá a vivir con Leaf... Ganamos
치지직 이름 진짜 그지같은건 팩트긴 해요. 지금 대부분의 스트리머들이 이름구리다고 까고있고 실제로 발음 하기에도 안좋아서 브랜드 네이밍 적으로도 안좋음.
특히 트위치에서 방송하는 정소림 캐스터도 구체적으로 왜 이 이름이 구린지 발성학적으로 문제라고 까기도 했고. 네이밍 다시 지어야됨 진짜. 누가 네이밍 정할때 담당한진 몰라도 감이 너무 없음.
It's stuff like this and what happened with ID streamers vis-a-vis games, that really brings in why old people have no place in govs, running our future. It's ludicrous to expect old people who are stuck in their ways (often wrong and illicit ways) to be of any value to the future of a country, let alone the planet at large. I mean, look at Japan. Their minister of cybersecurity admitted he'd never touched a PC. That's like me, an architect... coming out to say i've never used a ruler in my life. It just boggles the mind. This has HUGE, huge consequences not only in Korea, but globally and not only that, but for net-neutrality as well. I'm saying it. Old people have no place deciding the future, especially when their priorities don't even align with those of the masses. What's being done in Korea, is straight up legalized theft. Like guardsmen sitting by the two ends of a bridge and first taxing you for getting ON the bridge and then taxing you for getting OFF the bridge.
형..우리는 형 따라 갈게
오늘도 리프는 귀엽습니다.
하필 이제야 막 블루점프 프로젝트로 버튜버들 데뷔 하는 타이밍인데 이때 망사용료 때문에 트위치 철수라니
대월향 형 억까 너무 심하게 받았는데..
그리고 어떻게 플렛폼 이름이 치지직이냐 개 구림
3:59 pantsu shot 😂😂😂
4분쯤부터 더이상 재생이 안 되는데 어떻게 된 거지?
ㄹㅇ 여러의미로 대단한 한국이다
집이 불타고 있어서 가봤는데
그게 우리집이였어요ㅠㅠ
And kick? I think there is a streaming Plantafoma there
진짜 이건 통신3사, 정부 잘못임
1등급 isp도 아니고 2등급따리들이 돈을 받고있는 한국현실
ㅖ 방송은 되고 수익은 안나오는 상황입니다
This is one of my if not my favorite youtuber its so sad that this happend to him
그러네 조금 가슴아프지만 한국을 떠나면 되긴하네..
유투브로 응원할순 있지... ㅠㅠ
대월향님 치지직보다 kickstreaming이 나아요
국적을 옮기는게 유리한 이유가 점점 늘어만 간다...
Korean ISPs are crazy
greatmoonaroma 당신은 내가 본 한국 스트리머 중 최고였어요
집도... 직장도 읽은 대월향이였다...
좀 많이 귀찮아지기는 하겠지만
부수입으로 플랫폼에서 방송 하고 주 수입원을 유튜브 용으로 촬영하면 되겠지
그 정 안되면 킥이라도 가는게...
하필이면 왜 이름이 치지직일까...
2:35 이러면 수익 반떙 해주시나요? 엌ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
선생 걱정마시오 난 니뽄지 혼열 한국인이요 한국에 있는 친구들은 당신을 위해 이미 VPN 구독을 했다우
so does this mean youll stream on youtube?
he said he will stream on AfreecaTV or somewhere
치지직에서 방송할것 같네요
I press "F" for respect.
Good luck, our friend!
진짜 치지직은 이름이 참
rip moons twitch, that's actually really scummy of that Korean internet provider.
진짜 한국 통신사 조져야함 이제 해적 네트워크 사용해야됨
해외 이통사들도 한국에서 장사할수 있게끔 열어주면 좋겠음. 통신사들도 치킨싸움 나게 만들어야됨. 세상에 국가에 통신사가 단 3개밖에 없는 나라가 어딨냐고 ㅋㅋㅋ 어디 개발도상국인줄.
@@anb00 개도국 우리나라 아님? 아니라해도 서서히 그러는중임
@@댓글맨이야 놀랍게도 몇년전에 선진국 타이틀은 공식적으로 달았음. 물론 꼬라지보면 개도국수준 못벗어난거같아보이긴 함.
@@anb00 선진국중 말석이겠지 꼴이보니 곧 선진국에서 벗어나겠지만...
형 집이 불타고 있어...
근데 월향님은 아무래도 해외 시청자들이 많다보니 아프리카나 치지직보다는 유튜브가 나을 것 같다는 제 개인적인 의견..
이사하는구만...
통신사들이 얼마나 개같이 했으면 그랬겠냐고 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Sorry to hear moon hope you find a good home
Why not stream on RUclips??
Wait, if you use a VPN and set it for a different country, would you have access to Twitch?
Yes but you won't gain anything from streaming with VPN
you can stream in kick ?
통신법좀 바뀌었으면 좋겠다
Vpn 미국으로 우회해서 할수있지 않을까요...?
그럼 수익창출 불가능...