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Day #3: 3D Printable Print-In-Place Hinged Box - Learn Shapr3D in 10 Days for Beginners
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00:00 - Learn Shapr3D in 10 Days - Day #3
02:00 - Shell tool in Shapr3D
02:52 - Copying a 3D body in Shapr3D
04:13 - Apply colors in Shapr3D
04:51 - Creating the hinges in Shapr3D
08:00 - Extruding the side flanges
11:03 - Align bodies in Shapr3D
12:50 - Sharp3d export STL for 3D printing
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awesome - appreciate you!
@@21copyCat Thanks, Mark!
To get the angle icon to show up (7:45), I had to draw a new line that followed the edge on the left box. I then selected that line and the line going to the outer circle. The angle showed up and now I could change it to 45deg. After that, I deleted the new line.
Thank you for this, I was stuck on that part for so long lol
I've learnt more about Shapr3d in the first 3 minutes than I have from any other tutorial. Amazing walk through and thank you for explaining each tool you use.
To get the angle icon to show up (7:45), you have to have the two lines on the same sketche. The reason why you can't see the angle icon and modify it it's because the line from the orange rectangle is in sketch 1 and the second line is in sketch 2. You can select the sketch 1 and redraw the second line to have both line in the same sktech and you should be able to see and change the angle easily.
Thank so much! I spent an hour trying to figure this out. Real lifesaver man.
is there an updated series? Things like defining angles are no longer baked into the UI!
Defining angles is still there in the current version of Shapr3D. I just verified. Tap both the intersecting lines and you'll get an angle value that you can change. If you have a lot of constraints set then they may limit you from adjusting the value
Perfect! This tutorial does an excellent job of showing how to print a model like this in just one print run. Clear explanation with good additional information. Thank you.
Thanks for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it :)
This was very generous of you.
Thanks for watching, Santiago! :)
I'm having issues with the area around 7:50 in the video. No matter how I selected the two lines, I cannot get an option to define the relative degree angle
To clarify - it shows me the angle, but does not give me the option to edit it.
Which platform are you using Shapr3D on? Mac, Windows, or iOS?
Windows.@@PDOShapr3d
I am using Windows and have the same issue. I can see the angle but can't set it.
@@PDOShapr3d
Currently having the same issue on my macbook pro version. Any fixes update on this?
Another great tutorial, but I'm definitely seeing some differences on my iPad. Perhaps it's the newer version of Shapr I'm using, or the iPad interface, but after extruding an object, you can't select the face like you show. I have to hide the sketch item first, otherwise, I end up selecting the wrong stuff, with selecting just the face being impossible. Additionally, my sketch faces seem to be left behind when I rotate or align an object, which isn't what you show in your video. I don't know if I'm not selecting everything, or what, but my sketches have crud all over the place.
Yeah, unfortunately I’m seeing this issue too. It’s a sketch-castrophe! My solution has been to just hide the sketch lines in the “Items” tab.
For the issue with extruding, you might need to update your firmware. I was able to extrude my shapes even if the sketch lines overlapped them; just be careful to not select the boarder of a sketch line or it will not extrude the piece you want.
same with me
7:45 Is that option gone with an update or did they just hide setting the angle somewhere?
I couldn't find it. I can see the angle in the middle of the screen, but can't adjust it, so I had to try/error it for now.
Same for me
On iPad when I select the line and circle I am not able to set the angle.
I am finding your tutorials very helpful. They are easier to follow along then the Shpr 3D videos. How do you choose between radius and diameter when drawing a circle? I always seem to get the diameter option.
You can change it in your settings - support.shapr3d.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010687559-How-do-I-create-circles-and-ellipses-
Yours may have defaulted to the 'always raidus setting'
Thanks for the cool print in place. Good job teaching 👍.
Thanks for your support!
I think shapr3d is well good.. I was looking through CAD software, But none of them really did what I WAS THINKING. Shapr, Does do what I was thinking but is also well hard to explain or look up!
But with this program can you draw say a cabinet and then you drew some components, Can you then move components around? And plan how it'll be laid out. Make sure everything will fit and so on..
Unfortunately, at this time Shapr3D does not make it easy (or fast) to lay all your parts flat. For comparison, Fusion 360 has an 'auto arrange' feature that does it in a few clicks. Sharp3D forces you to use Move or Align to manually reposition them one by one.
Love the 3d printer content with shapr3d , let's see threads one of these days?
Thanks, Klayton! Threads would be interesting. I'll be honest, Id do them in Fusion 360 over Shapr3D since they have a thread feature. Hoping Shapr3D adds one eventually :)
Very informative. Thanks! One thing I need more help with is… construction planes. What’s the best practice in a particular situation?
Thanks for watching, Rusty!
Generally, use construction planes any time you need to create Sketches and don't have an existing 3D body to sketch from. Construction planes can also be used with select modeling features. I'll be covering some of the core workflows/uses cases of them in future lessons in this series.
What project are you working on?
I'm working on two woodworking projects. The first is a modification of a shop filter that Jay Bates did using SketchUp. I'm essentially redrawing it in Shapr3d using dimensions for my blower and the common filters I use in my house. The other is a design for a very deep shop cabinet that has lots of un-usable space. I'm trying to design something with vertical sliding drawers that will slide completely out giving me better use of the back 8 - 10" that are currently really hard to reach.
8:00 When I try to extrude the center pin, the rest of my sketch is being deletex
How to make the 3d object appear transparent in the viewport when in modeling mode? I am testing the trial, but can't change the opacity of the 3d model in the viewport, when modeling from an image reference.
How does a bridge that long work? I thought more than 10mm would sag and fall.
hello, iknow this is a little bit late but when im printing the box i cant see the walls of the box pleas help
hi when we 3d print i assume we shoulnt have any support right? is it alright to have support?
Excellent video…..thx
Glad to be able to learn the basics - but the free version only allows two models, so you can't complete all of the tutorials without deleting and the color is now part of visualization and no longer available without paying for the $299/year version. I'm not even sure I'll like this app and I can only test some things without giving a credit card for 14 days of a trial? I guess I'll just have to imagine and delete as I go.
I cannot connect the line from the box to the circle. It is impossible. 7:00.
hi PDO , i already tried this .The only problem is align btw .When i'm doing align ,that nothing happen ..do not show any result or align.
Hello and thank you. This is the first program I think I can actually learn. My return key doesn't have any effect. What should I do?
Hi Rhonda. Are you on the Mac/Windows or iPad version? Return/Enter key should work on all three. If you're still experiencing issues I would suggest contacting Shapr3D support: support.shapr3d.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
help! having an issue with the step at 8:35-- when i select the body in the sidebar menu to copy, it only copies part of the hinge, not the whole side face. Basically the circle elements and angled part are still all separate elements unlike the video where the entire side seems 'joined' as one. I've played it back multiple times and i don't see a step I missed.
Hi Doug. Can you confirm that you just have one body in the Items manager on the left side? You can also try shift clicking all of the parts that are separate on your end, before hitting the 'copy' badge. Otherwise, if you can link to a screencast it may help me notice something else. - Kevin
currenly, it looks like you iss a lot of useful tools. Plus, not sure why are u moving gismo, it doesn't matter where it is.
Hi love u r video!
Can I please know how to make the hinge tighter so it stays at a angle like laptop hinges
You would need to make the clearance smaller, but I belive you'll find that hard to achieve similar to a laptop hinge with plastic alone. You can replace the pin with a premade metal pint and add some lithium grease to better replicate one.
@@PDOShapr3d thank you!
is it possible to simulate this model in shapr 3d ? I mean the rotation of the solid bodies about the hinge axis?
In general, Shapr3D does not currently support simulating models. However, there is somewhat of a workaround that would work for a hinge, by using the Construction Axis. See this video from Shapr3d: ruclips.net/video/DqhWE3hYujk/видео.html
Its a lot harder trying to do this on an iPad. Certain things aren't showing or happening. Circles are drawn in diameters rather than radius, and the diagonal rectangle doesn't draw out in the ISO view, it draws flat. Very frustrating when trying to follow along.
Hi Chris. You can change the diameter/radius in the settings. I've been recording with all the default settings on Mac OS. Not sure why the iPad version sounds like it defaults to Diameter.
I didn't realize the iPad version won't draw while in ISO/perspective views. I'll have to test that.
You gotta change some settings yourself. I forget who's channel but there's a couple people with good videos that explain how to do it exactly. Just keep looking around on RUclips
@@PDOShapr3d I'm on a Mac and I can't find a settings tab to change diameter to radius.
Found it via the link you gave below. It is called Preferences for anyone else looking for it.
@@jeanhill5105 On Mac go to Shapr3D (upper left / Apple Menu) > Settings > Circular Annotations > select desired radius or diameter.
After creating the circles for the start of the hinge and adding the tangent line there is no box that pops up for the degree angle. Also when I try to extrude that area below the circles it isn’t a solid surface to be extruded, can someone help me with those two issues please?
Did you hold the SHIFT key when selecting the angled line and the vertical line? You'll have to select the two lines for the angled input to appear. If it's not when doing that, its likely that the lower end of the line is not connected to the other line.
Printed. The center shaft breaks off very easily.
If i want to use the same hinge in a diferent project, all the dimensions scalate the same way?
Yes! In general, this is a universal hinge that can work with many things. I wouldn't recommend making it smaller than this. However, it does print well at larger sizes (and is typically stronger when thicker).
@@PDOShapr3d Nice, thanks! other question, the outer hinge and the clearence, does the size of them needs to increase in size proportionate of the thickenes of the inner hinge?
@@lulucoast The clearance does not need to change unless you have issues with the print based on your slicer settings. This works well for .1 and .15mm layer height. .2mm or greater may need to be tested.
Why didn’t you have to join the hinge body’s (union) with the box bodies?
Great question, Jordan! In this case, you could choose to join or not, depending on your desired outcome. I chose not to join/union the bodies which gives a little bit more flexibility if one needed to hide or alter either part. All bodies will be included whenever you export the file as an STL for 3D printing.
For windows Users, I am noticing a lot of differences. Example you cannot select the align tool first, you must click the face then hit the align tool or it will not work. I am having to find a lot of work arounds just to fix things, also the Program seems to have updated a lot already since this tutorial.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention! Unfortunately, I only have MacOS so cannot compare. I know they are working to unify the experiences better, but there are still some unexpected gaps/differences.
@PDO - Shapr3D it's ok it happens. I just wanted to make sure anyone else using windows had workarounds for it since I know I was getting frustrated, lol.
Also, on Windows, there is no actual way to change the circle radius. it just says to use an elipse to get those options
@@ardentprops hi thank you for the information ,but i already try what you are saying .But when i click the face ..the align tools do not show up .Thanks again if you can me answer
Hey, how are you? This just popped up in my feed. When did you start this channel?
Hi Todd. Great to see you here. To answer your question - about a month and half ago :)
I'm sorry "return key" are you doing it on C64?
Hi Great video, thank you. What do you have to do for the print settings to print this pin? I use prusa slicer and I am assuming the software will automatically create a 'Bridge'? thanks in advance.
Steve
That's correct! It will 'bridge' inside the hinges. I suggest printing with .1mm layer height. The remaining default settings will print fine on a Prusa or equivalent type of 3D printer. Happy printing! :)
Hi, was just wondering if there was a clip we could add that would seal both parts completely?
I don't have a video on such a clip (at the moment, anyway). You could find some examples on Thingiverse.com and model from those :)
@@PDOShapr3d thanks, I've modelled my own and the design seems to work so I'm happy with that. (First thing I've designed)
@@ItsMozzy. Glad to hear that! Happy new year :)
What if I designed the whole box but in the very end I wanted to change its dimensions, let‘s say, make it deeper? Do I have to start again or is there a possibility of parametrisation?
Hi Martin. Shapr3D is a direct modeler. That means it's not fully parametric (like Fusion 360 or some others), but instead allows you to select the face and update the dimensions or push/pull the face accordingly. There are some pros and cons to direct modeling. One of the challenges (or frustrations) can be something like this were you may want to quickly create a bunch of different sizes. I still use Fusion 360 for all those sorts of projects.
On what printer do you print this and with what settings/Nozzle head size?
Hii, love this video. Learned a ton from it. I've been using my Ultimaker3 with a 0.4mm Nozzle and it doesn't work - would you mind sharing your settings?
Hi Samuel. Glad you're learning lots! Appreciate you watching.
I've printed this test hinge on my Ultimaker S5, Ender 3 Pro v2 (example - ruclips.net/video/gzF2QgMh6nw/видео.html), and Prusa i3 MK3S. .4 nozzle should be fine. Your layer height is what's critical here as the inner pin is quite small (unless you scale the design up). You'll want to use .1mm layer height. You may also want to slow down the speeds. Generally, when I do these test prints I use the default 'basic' settings in Cura.
What material did you print with? PLA?
@@PDOShapr3d
Hiii,
Okay so with the suggested layer height it worked out on my Ultimaker :) thank you so much for explaining that.
I ended up printing it in PLA. One thing I noticed is that for me the box doesn't completely close because the hinge is at the same height as the top of the box. It kind of keeps a 5mm opening when fully closed if you don't apply pressure.
I've made an updated model where the hinge is a bit higher and that fixed the issue.
Love the tutorials :) Keep up the good work!
Sam
@@PDOShapr3d
Hiii,
Okay so with the suggested layer height it worked out on my Ultimaker :) thank you so much for explaining that.
I ended up printing it in PLA. One thing I noticed is that for me the box doesn't completely close because the hinge is at the same height as the top of the box. It kind of keeps a 5mm opening when fully closed if you don't apply pressure.
I've made an updated model where the hinge is a bit higher and that fixed the issue.
Love the tutorials :) Keep up the good work!
Sam
@@samuel-beek Hi Sam. Glad to hear you got it working! I appreciate the update. Happy learning :)
@@samuel-beek Hi! Would you be willing to upload your model with the adjustment? That would save me a lot of time and frustration, thanks!
Hi, I appreciate these videos very much. However I’m having a problem and not sure what’s going on or what I missed. I wish I could provide a screenshot but I will do my best to explain. In this tutorial at 8:10 roughly, you begin to extrude the section with the 45 degree. The problem I am having is that section is not shaded in blue. All of the circles are shade but not this section. I am using an iPad if that helps. I would greatly appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much in advance.
Hi idkarts. I suspect that the line is not fully connected to the box/vertical line. You may have to zoom way in OR you can try to drag the end point and make sure it snaps to it. Using a constraint will also help ensure it stays connected to that area - as seen at approximately 7 mins.
Let me know if that was it! Otherwise, I'll need you to share the file so I can take a closer look. Cheers!
That was the problem. It wasn’t connected to the circle. I did have to zoom really far in to see it. Now that I fixed it I can see that when I draw the line I need to make sure it said “edge” when attaching to the circle.
Thank you so much for your quick response. Again, appreciate the work you do.
@@idkarts Glad that worked for you! Happy holidays!
I am currently having a similar same problem. I checked the constraints and I can move the line around the circle and it stays connected to the side of the box. The area is blue. The angle input does not appear. The measure tool happily shows me the angle, but trial and error while drawing the point along the line does not seem to be the best solution. I am using windows though and the current beta.
Yep, got the same problem. Redrawn the hinge sketch twice over and same thing. And it's annoying I can't just select an angle dimension tool when it fails@@Mabutuja
Looks like this no longer works at 11:38.
Nice one. Is there an easy way to extrude an object face as a separate body rather than just making the selected object thicker?
Hi Notan. Not that I'm aware of. You'll have to 'Project' edges of the geometry to have a new sketch for a separate body. You could also extrude the face and then split the body to result in two bodies (depending on the type of geometry).
How does one print this if the print surface is not big enough?
What are your size/surface constraints?
If you're looking to print larger then I would recommend a different design with a removable pin. You can also print each half separately.
@@PDOShapr3d i thought of printing it at an angle.
Can’t afford too 🧐
im having problems i followed each step and made sure the circle was locked and made the line tangent to it but when i try to change the degrees the circle changes shape and the line doesnt move idk what im doing wrong
Hi Tyler, can you double check that the horizontal line (attached to the circle's center point) is locked as well? Additionally, having a horizontal contsraint on it will help. It sounds like something is missing a constraint as the circle should not be able to move at all.
@@PDOShapr3d Hi, first I would like to thank you for the tutorial videos and putting your time for these. I have an issue also with the line and the circle part as enabling the "Tangent" lock it won't the line freely and get a message that "there is a restraint". I've tried multiple things and the only thing that kinda works is if i "disconnect" from the vertical line from the left side of the box but then it's not tangent and it doesn't move along side of the circle. Now I don't know if this issue to others or me, I'm using the Windows version which mentions that it's an early access
@@Avalance987 Thank you for watching :)
I don't belive the Windows version should affect anything here. Would you be able to export as a Shapr3D file (.shapr) and send to me at support[at]productdesignonline.com ?
It will likely be easier if I take a look at your file.
@@PDOShapr3d My apologies for the delay to reply back... After playing a little bit more I was able to find why it was happening. When I was creating the line, as a starting point I was choosing (snapping it) to the middle of the side of the box (purple point) and when I was enabling the "Tangent" it was locking it on both sides. I needed to snap (create) the line on a random spot of the side of the box. That way I was able to move it freely and also be Tangent to the circle.
@@Avalance987 no need to apologize! I appreciate the follow up as that helps me track things to point out in future lessons. Glad that you got it sorted out! Don't hesitate to comment if you run into issues in the future :)
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What version ipad is this?
Hi Mark, this whole series was recorded on the Mac version. The iPad version is very similar with the exception of some of the sketching you have to click and drag on the iPad versus tap. I believe the Shapr3D team is working on better unifying the cross-platforms.
@@PDOShapr3d thank you!!
porque no sale la traducción en Español ???
Hi Juan. At this time, I'm only uploading English captions. Unfortunately, RUclips removed the ability for the community to add translations. I will look at the metrics and consider adding Spanish/other languages.
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