I have been mitering my joints for years out west. It wasn’t until I move back east that I found most of the trim Carpenters were coping and frowned on my way of joining corners. Their comment is that tapers tend to build up inside corners and there is no 90% corner. Good point but I do cut back the point of the 90 and it fits in most corners tight. Also I get a great glue surface. My joints keep tight with less joints opening over time. I have been a Carpenter for over 40 years and I still love learning new techniques. Thank you for taking the time to video your amazing work!
Don’t start from a “tail between my legs” perspective. You’re a highly qualified craftsman who looks for ways “and tools” to enhance his productivity and profit margin, and on occasion, you will strike out and suffer a small financial loss. Applying a full inventory review and attaching a percentage verse use outlook is a disadvantage. There will always be a job where you need a specific tool you seldom use, and may have paid too much for, that will make or break a job.
I totally agree and was delighted to hear you say that mitered joints were as good and tight as coped joints. I learned years ago, from getting paid by the foot, that coping every joint is very inefficient. That goes for baseboards and chair rail as well. It just takes way more time to cope a joint than to miter a joint. There are still times when coping is necessary such as installing the last piece of base in a tight closet or a very short piece of base between a door casing and a corner. Mitering when I can and coping when I have to has made me much more efficient. My clients and my bank account both appreciate it.
Wise words. Especially the last part - grow your money. Time marches on and if you're not doing that early in your life you'll regret it later. Thanks for the tips!
I enjoy watching your videos. I got started back when there were no power miter boxes, only hand. Yes, I’m old school. Nice to see younger guys learning and investing themselves in the trade. I’ve definitely cut a few pieces of crown. I always would cut it upside down and backwards. Back in 2017 I was on a high end trim job and was suppose to start on a coffered ceiling with specially made walnut crown. Wouldn’t you know it, a bearing in my DeWalt 780 went out. I had to learn how to cut in the flat because my other miter box is a 8 ½” Hitachi, so I had to cut it in the flat. The project manager came in the next day and said he was going to help me. He said measure all your pieces, subtract 1/16" and miter cut them, and I’ll assemble them. I was sweating bullets. We had 9 boxes to do and did the first 6 in two hours... perfect. Finished the last 3 by myself. Always cut in the flat now and haven’t gone back to coping. Have done some large coffered ceilings and still pre-assemble.
Thanks Spencer. Years ago I almost bought the CopeMaster for a huge coffer ceiling. The job never came to fruition therefore I didn't spend the money. Looking back, I believe I would have ended up selling mine at a loss too. Generally I don't sell any of my tools except to replace them, cause I seem to always wish I hadn't sold them and end up buying again. Love your channel and your a very wise man.
I have to say i have been mitering crown a lot lately, especially the FJP. It's just been faster, less mess and since i work alone now it's just easier to pop into place. I was using a bosch barrel handle cordless coping saw with the Collins foot too. But now it's just easier to miter and glue.
I haven't coped my crown in over 6 months due to keeping up and honestly a liberal amount of titebond,, shims and strategic nail pattern, they look indistinguishable from a cope joint 🤷♂️ I prefer to cope my crown though if speed wasn't a factor
It’s my opinion the old timers coped as it was easier than a miter! Leave the mitre saw at home and any jigs made with it, and try miter or cope! Especially in non 90 degrees corners, which is pretty much every one! Where as the cope is very forgiving. We’ve been told all this crap about it being superior as ‘if this moves or that moves it covers’ blah blah, and as it’s a bit of a trick to do we revere it! But simply put it was faster and easier! Now with mitersaws and fancy glue that is no longer true The old timers would laugh at us thinking we’re doing a better job with the cope 😂
Sounds like the style of trim you are installing is the limiting factor here. More complex trims could prove to be a better fit for this machine. Live and learn. Great review.
After doning carpentry for 46 years, I feel the same way. There are tools I'd like to have to make a job go easier, but There are other ways sometimes.
I expect it's a great tool in a team/large job or prodction environment where the number of cuts in a day is large, and the required setup and setup change times are minimal by comparison. I think it is helpful of you, to do this video, and help people figure out whether this tool is one that will produce higher efficiencies with their particular work and work flow.
Sir I would like to say thank you . You have given some of the most honest reviews on your experience using the tools . I can say that I have purchased some of the tools I’ve seen you review. It refreshing to see that things sometimes don’t work the way you plan and that you need to regroup. Thx and keep up the great content.
When the goal is to be as productive as possible, tool purchases to speed up or makes us better are essential. We all have a few that maybe weren't the best...
good video. I think the same can be said for CNC technology in small shops. I also bought a cope master maybe 10 or 12 years ago. At the time I was trimming out houses in colonial base so it probably paid for itself. But now I do mostly kitchens and rarely use it. If I just need a few copes on crown or base, a jigsaw and coping foot work just fine. I still haven't sold the copemaster because I am not sure I would get much for it. By the way I do think it is worth having an extra jig saw set up for just coping on site. For installations I have the 12 v makita brushless, barrel grip for coping, and the 18v for cutting big holes in cabinets.
Great video Spencer, as usual. Thanks for your consistency of useful content. I’m a finish carpenter from WI and I’ve been subscribed to your channel for a while now and appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience. Woot!
Another great video, as usual! Bullets for me are almost a daily occurrence as I mill a TON of barnwood into flooring, siding and trim every day. Big thing about old bullets and nails, etc, is that they are soft. Hit a modern nail! New teeth on the molder head! $$ Thanks for the honest review of a fancy tool. Sorry you took a loss on it, in reality you didn't. Space is more valuable in a shop than tools you don't use.
I used to feel inferior whenever you would bring a coping video. But I'm used to giving my best when mitering crown moulding so I never really had the need for coping, unless it was a costumer requirement, but when they saw my miter joins they would agree it was not necessary to cope crown molding. Regardless I always watch your videos cuz they are great, and I have them in mind when I try to figure the best approach to any job before I even start. Thanks.
I'd also like to add that as you get older you will be looking for tools that are lighter and come with less baggage ex. cord less & hose less. Wiser with age .
Spencer, I have a WoodMizer sawmill. I have cut a bunch of bullets in two. I also have cut a bunch of nails in two that are hiding deep within a log. That, of course, gets expensive.
We’ve had the same conversation on site weighing cost v benefit. We chose not to go with it and instead picked up a Rockler speed cope for when we have larger profiles. Mount it to the end of the wing and just fold it away when we’re not using.
It looks a crazy tool, those kinds of base boards, (mainly flat small profile at top) I just mitre outwards, flip it round cut the flat bulk. with the chop saw up to the profile and finish with the jigsaw, finish with sandpaper glue to a bit of scrap profile.
When I first saw the copemaster at a trades show 25+ years ago. I thought why spend the money on something that is easy for me. Then I got into commercial trim with Prefinished materials and 2”x8” crown. Back cut was way to much for the Collins coping foot. Then I remembered and bought the copemaster and it was sweet for AWI trim jobs I was on. And yes it’s sitting around waiting to be used. I’m not ready to let it go lol
Who hasn't gone down the tool rabbit hole, buying a tool we just had to have only to find it sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Like you I took inventory and got rid of the tools I rarely or never used, and now I'm a lot more discerning when contemplating a tool purchase. Maybe someone will avoid our mistake, but my guess is they'll have to make their own mistakes. Lol
I appreciate honest reviews. Good and bad. I know the companies don’t like it but you help us think better consider where to put our money. I try to do the same with my SM post. Would enjoy watching more honest reviews. I am also sure that machine would be great in a shop setup.
Hey thanks for your video! I was considering the cope master but wondered if it was something I really needed. I think you help helped answer that. Side note: do you always use a laser to take measurements for your baseboard? If so, do you have one your recommend?
Sometimes we just don’t think things out and realize later that maybe we shouldn’t have made that purchase it happens to the best of us, I still consider you the best trim carpenter on the internet
I just trimmed out my house and have the copemaster and it worked great. Now will I use it enough to really justify the purchase…?? I would assume you write off your tool purchases…?? So maybe the hit wasn’t as bad. I tend to keep my tools because once I get ride of it…..It never fails I need it on the next job. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us on this tool in your professional usage. Setting up machines certainly can be a lengthy and tedious task. Hopefully the new owner will have a better result than you for his particular need.
We’ve all been guilty on wasting money on unnecessary tools! It’s our mindset sometimes I think ‘tunnel thinking’ For example I’m running a Dewalt 54v table saw mainly and I had a few cuts to do that exceeded the capacity of that saw! I caught myself almost loading up the 10” saw and lugging it to the job site…. Then thought ‘use a hand saw idiot!’ 😂
I have also scored a piece of trim with a bullet in it. The poplar was discolored around it just as yours. It must alter the chemical make up around it?
I don't care who you are, if you are in construction and have been at it long enough you have a few tools laying around collecting dust. I once bought a brand new heavy hammer drill and 2 months later found one in my shop that I had only used once and forgot I had it.
For production carpenters, often we don't get this fancy material and if you do, this copemaster would work wonders. But if you're doing a simple profile I can see how it doesn't get you any faster results. Most of my trim lately has been just flat boards and no profile what so ever. It's a great tool but gotta apply it to a proper situation to get the best efficiency. It's like trying to tow a small tool trailer with a semi truck. Not gonna make you much money
I run one of these moulding machines and we hit bullets all the time. I even seen musket balls. Luckily the bullets don’t damage the knives to bad. Nails and staples on the other hand
I know I have done the same thing with specialty tools because I didn’t feel they were worth the space they took up on my setup, or the time they take to setup/ teardown
I appreciate the honesty. Yes tool purchases are a good Feeling 👍. I know. But when a Craftsman like yourself learns a hand tool or a small tool like (a $200.00) electric tool. We have to wrap our Brain 🧠 on money investment. Tool or Interest earning Investments. Smart thought on a 30 something Craftsman.
The Collins Coping Foot is great but it took me a little while to learn to use it. I still finish it with a file and a Milwaukee Rotary Tool. I looked into the CopeMaster for a Rezimercial job but still couldn’t justify the cost. I think I would buy one if it were half the cost.
If we are talking a straight up side by side speed comparison, yes the copemaster is always going to be faster and more consistent. It is when you consider the time to make the templates, haul the machine to the job site, clean up the mess the machine makes, Load up the machine, and cost of purchasing the machine and learning it, that is where I find that there is an efficiency difference. It’s not a bad tool, and it will work great for a lot of people, but I just found it wasn’t worth keeping around with my personal workflow.
I was plaining some curly white oak and plained three a bunch of bird shot. Was kind of neat but freaked me out at first seeing all that shiny spots. Thought I broke a planner blade.
I went back and watched the Copemaster video after this one and really didn't see how the profile had to be set up or what you were unhappy with. Is the problem one of quality of cut or switch from left to right cope? For the size of houses you are doing you should be running three chop saws, a left 45, right 45, and 90. You'll never go back. Good stuff.
I have never begun to understand why it would be necessary to have three shopsaws. Swinging a saw is just not that big of a deal. Takes less time to swing a saw than setup and hop back and forth between three saws.
@@InsiderCarpentry "Don't understand" is exactly the reason you need to try it. Time is money and the houses you are doing are large providing the space. All three can set on same bench accordingly. There is time saving in keeping the saw in same setup but there is also a huge repeatability savings as the saw always stays in same position, much like a golf swing. This is especially important when doing stain grade trim as all fits have to be tight no caulk allowed. Any fine feather adjustments are made with flat shims under or behind stock. I typically slice refrigerator advertising magnets which allow me to make varying shim packs 1x 2x 3x. Bonus Round: Also can put some masking tape on saw throat and cut through it and it will leave exact reference where blade is cutting. I'm a little OCD but tools are cheaper than therapy
My worst tool purchases have been the cordless Dewalt table saw and the La180 Stabila laser ( laser didn’t have the range that it said it had and the Dewalt saw can only rip one scriber on a 6 amp battery)
Seems like it would only be really useful on a commercial scale. When you've got to run a 10k feet of crown for an old folks home or whatever. Someone can just sit there for a day and cope it all and you're good to go.
I kinda feel the same about lamello zeta. I've had it for about s year and a half, still use it, it's let me produce some bespoke furniture that would have been impossible without it. However, it's really expensive and the connectors themselves aren't exactly cheap. I'm keeping it because I found a slightly non standard use for it and it's helping with some of my projects. But i don't think I'll ever get so much of my hard earned geld on another potential gimmick. The bottom line is if 90 percent of tradesmen aren't using it perhaps I shouldn't either.
I'm about to buy one for a modern slat wall project. I'm sure I'll have the same experience. It will be a one hit wonder for this project, but after that... I doubt I'll use it much.
@@InsiderCarpentry i recently got the flexus connectors and noticed you only tighten them a bit for dry fitting or some of them lock and cannot be opened again. Have fun!
New tools are great. But they canibalize existing tools. I don’t have guys working with me so if I buy a new tool, I have to be on that tool myself. Therefore I’m no longer on other tools I already have. The more tools one has, the lesser the ROI per tool. Our business is great because it only takes 10-30k investment to get a truck and tools. But I find that we run out of investment opportunities very quickly, passed that 30k mark. Unlike other trades such as excavation company. One can get in with a tiny $15k excavator doing landscaping and go all the way to a $500k machine, and more.
Let’s face it, tools are to men what shoes are to women, especially when you’re young. I’ve found that guys who work out of their trucks or have minimum shop space tend to be smarter about tools for the obvious reason.
Very true. I was a tool junky not too many years ago... I hate spending money on tools now... mainly because I don't really need anything more and the money is better off being invested.
The Copemaster isn't for you. It's for the $16 an hour kid who is running left copes from the garage up to the third floor master suite where you're working.
DeWalt has a chart on their website with all of the possible mitre and bevel angles for all of the possible wall angles, for both 52/38 and 45/45 crown...
Bosch has an angle finder that tells you the bevel and miter settings for any crown on any wall angle, plus a few more things. It's a hidden jem of a tool that not too many people know about.
@@InsiderCarpentry I’m getting ready to take the plunge on one because it makes total sense to setting a trouble free door. I do a lot of home repair and I encounter many doors that have been improperly installed and the customer has been frustrated for years.
with expensive wood working equipment buy used . theres always shops going out if buisness. I bought a computerized horizontal panel saw that cuts 4 sheets at a time for 1000 dollars at a auction
I have been mitering my joints for years out west. It wasn’t until I move back east that I found most of the trim Carpenters were coping and frowned on my way of joining corners. Their comment is that tapers tend to build up inside corners and there is no 90% corner. Good point but I do cut back the point of the 90 and it fits in most corners tight. Also I get a great glue surface. My joints keep tight with less joints opening over time. I have been a Carpenter for over 40 years and I still love learning new techniques. Thank you for taking the time to video your amazing work!
Don’t start from a “tail between my legs” perspective. You’re a highly qualified craftsman who looks for ways “and tools” to enhance his productivity and profit margin, and on occasion, you will strike out and suffer a small financial loss. Applying a full inventory review and attaching a percentage verse use outlook is a disadvantage. There will always be a job where you need a specific tool you seldom use, and may have paid too much for, that will make or break a job.
I totally agree and was delighted to hear you say that mitered joints were as good and tight as coped joints. I learned years ago, from getting paid by the foot, that coping every joint is very inefficient. That goes for baseboards and chair rail as well. It just takes way more time to cope a joint than to miter a joint. There are still times when coping is necessary such as installing the last piece of base in a tight closet or a very short piece of base between a door casing and a corner. Mitering when I can and coping when I have to has made me much more efficient. My clients and my bank account both appreciate it.
Agree 100% don’t be impulsive when buying tools, they should make you more money and not sit around the shop collecting dust, cheers brother!!
50k view.....yes!!!
Great insight on getting tools to make you money rather than just sitting collecting dust!!!!! Appreciate your honesty👍👍
Wise words. Especially the last part - grow your money. Time marches on and if you're not doing that early in your life you'll regret it later. Thanks for the tips!
I enjoy watching your videos. I got started back when there were no power miter boxes, only hand. Yes, I’m old school. Nice to see younger guys learning and investing themselves in the trade. I’ve definitely cut a few pieces of crown. I always would cut it upside down and backwards. Back in 2017 I was on a high end trim job and was suppose to start on a coffered ceiling with specially made walnut crown. Wouldn’t you know it, a bearing in my DeWalt 780 went out. I had to learn how to cut in the flat because my other miter box is a 8 ½” Hitachi, so I had to cut it in the flat. The project manager came in the next day and said he was going to help me. He said measure all your pieces, subtract 1/16" and miter cut them, and I’ll assemble them. I was sweating bullets. We had 9 boxes to do and did the first 6 in two hours... perfect. Finished the last 3 by myself. Always cut in the flat now and haven’t gone back to coping. Have done some large coffered ceilings and still pre-assemble.
Thanks Spencer. Years ago I almost bought the CopeMaster for a huge coffer ceiling. The job never came to fruition therefore I didn't spend the money. Looking back, I believe I would have ended up selling mine at a loss too. Generally I don't sell any of my tools except to replace them, cause I seem to always wish I hadn't sold them and end up buying again. Love your channel and your a very wise man.
I have to say i have been mitering crown a lot lately, especially the FJP. It's just been faster, less mess and since i work alone now it's just easier to pop into place. I was using a bosch barrel handle cordless coping saw with the Collins foot too. But now it's just easier to miter and glue.
I haven't coped my crown in over 6 months due to keeping up and honestly a liberal amount of titebond,, shims and strategic nail pattern, they look indistinguishable from a cope joint 🤷♂️ I prefer to cope my crown though if speed wasn't a factor
I stopped coping 15 years ago and never looked back! Just get good with miters and don’t worry about it! So much better and faster!
It’s my opinion the old timers coped as it was easier than a miter! Leave the mitre saw at home and any jigs made with it, and try miter or cope! Especially in non 90 degrees corners, which is pretty much every one! Where as the cope is very forgiving.
We’ve been told all this crap about it being superior as ‘if this moves or that moves it covers’ blah blah, and as it’s a bit of a trick to do we revere it!
But simply put it was faster and easier! Now with mitersaws and fancy glue that is no longer true
The old timers would laugh at us thinking we’re doing a better job with the cope 😂
Sounds like the style of trim you are installing is the limiting factor here. More complex trims could prove to be a better fit for this machine. Live and learn. Great review.
After doning carpentry for 46 years, I feel the same way. There are tools I'd like to have to make a job go easier, but There are other ways sometimes.
I expect it's a great tool in a team/large job or prodction environment where the number of cuts in a day is large, and the required setup and setup change times are minimal by comparison. I think it is helpful of you, to do this video, and help people figure out whether this tool is one that will produce higher efficiencies with their particular work and work flow.
Sir I would like to say thank you . You have given some of the most honest reviews on your experience using the tools . I can say that I have purchased some of the tools I’ve seen you review. It refreshing to see that things sometimes don’t work the way you plan and that you need to regroup. Thx and keep up the great content.
Makes sense the way you were using the tool. I use mine in a shop prepping material and only do it for the largest jobs.
When the goal is to be as productive as possible, tool purchases to speed up or makes us better are essential. We all have a few that maybe weren't the best...
I was staining a deck years ago and found a bullet lodged in the stringer. Also I use Rolair compressors now. No more shouting over a noisy unit.
good video. I think the same can be said for CNC technology in small shops. I also bought a cope master maybe 10 or 12 years ago. At the time I was trimming out houses in colonial base so it probably paid for itself. But now I do mostly kitchens and rarely use it. If I just need a few copes on crown or base, a jigsaw and coping foot work just fine. I still haven't sold the copemaster because I am not sure I would get much for it. By the way I do think it is worth having an extra jig saw set up for just coping on site. For installations I have the 12 v makita brushless, barrel grip for coping, and the 18v for cutting big holes in cabinets.
Great video Spencer, as usual. Thanks for your consistency of useful content. I’m a finish carpenter from WI and I’ve been subscribed to your channel for a while now and appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience. Woot!
Another great video, as usual! Bullets for me are almost a daily occurrence as I mill a TON of barnwood into flooring, siding and trim every day. Big thing about old bullets and nails, etc, is that they are soft. Hit a modern nail! New teeth on the molder head! $$
Thanks for the honest review of a fancy tool. Sorry you took a loss on it, in reality you didn't. Space is more valuable in a shop than tools you don't use.
I watched an old timer cope by hand years ago. Crazy accurate. Nothing that I could do, but I man could that guy go. 60-70 years old.
you do such a fantastic job on all the vids and your expertise in your craft is inspiring and thank you for educating us on all you do
I used to feel inferior whenever you would bring a coping video. But I'm used to giving my best when mitering crown moulding so I never really had the need for coping, unless it was a costumer requirement, but when they saw my miter joins they would agree it was not necessary to cope crown molding. Regardless I always watch your videos cuz they are great, and I have them in mind when I try to figure the best approach to any job before I even start. Thanks.
I'd also like to add that as you get older you will be looking for tools that are lighter and come with less baggage ex. cord less & hose less. Wiser with age .
Spencer, I have a WoodMizer sawmill. I have cut a bunch of bullets in two. I also have cut a bunch of nails in two that are hiding deep within a log. That, of course, gets expensive.
We’ve had the same conversation on site weighing cost v benefit. We chose not to go with it and instead picked up a Rockler speed cope for when we have larger profiles. Mount it to the end of the wing and just fold it away when we’re not using.
It looks a crazy tool, those kinds of base boards, (mainly flat small profile at top) I just mitre outwards, flip it round cut the flat bulk. with the chop saw up to the profile and finish with the jigsaw, finish with sandpaper glue to a bit of scrap profile.
The bullet is pretty crazy. I was ripping some 5/4 board and found a big larve inside it. Just a little hollow pocket but no tunnel going to it.
When I first saw the copemaster at a trades show 25+ years ago. I thought why spend the money on something that is easy for me. Then I got into commercial trim with Prefinished materials and 2”x8” crown. Back cut was way to much for the Collins coping foot. Then I remembered and bought the copemaster and it was sweet for AWI trim jobs I was on. And yes it’s sitting around waiting to be used. I’m not ready to let it go lol
You’re work is absolutely amazing. No need to justify anything. 🤣
i use shims too. i used to think i was a hack lol glad to see other people doing the same tricks :)
Great advice and so much wisdom you have acquired. Thanks for sharing.
Who hasn't gone down the tool rabbit hole, buying a tool we just had to have only to find it sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Like you I took inventory and got rid of the tools I rarely or never used, and now I'm a lot more discerning when contemplating a tool purchase. Maybe someone will avoid our mistake, but my guess is they'll have to make their own mistakes. Lol
I appreciate honest reviews. Good and bad. I know the companies don’t like it but you help us think better consider where to put our money. I try to do the same with my SM post. Would enjoy watching more honest reviews. I am also sure that machine would be great in a shop setup.
Hey thanks for your video! I was considering the cope master but wondered if it was something I really needed. I think you help helped answer that. Side note: do you always use a laser to take measurements for your baseboard? If so, do you have one your recommend?
This is the one I recommend. amzn.to/43laZYq
Sometimes we just don’t think things out and realize later that maybe we shouldn’t have made that purchase it happens to the best of us, I still consider you the best trim carpenter on the internet
I just trimmed out my house and have the copemaster and it worked great. Now will I use it enough to really justify the purchase…?? I would assume you write off your tool purchases…?? So maybe the hit wasn’t as bad.
I tend to keep my tools because once I get ride of it…..It never fails I need it on the next job.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us on this tool in your professional usage. Setting up machines certainly can be a lengthy and tedious task. Hopefully the new owner will have a better result than you for his particular need.
Thank you very much for this video, I really appreciate your honesty, and I think that's good advice you gave.
I've found bullets in hardwood that we get for building cabinets. I've also found razor blades in plywood.
I found a bullet in an oak board , planing lumber with my Uncle Bill in the 70's.
We’ve all been guilty on wasting money on unnecessary tools!
It’s our mindset sometimes I think ‘tunnel thinking’
For example I’m running a Dewalt 54v table saw mainly and I had a few cuts to do that exceeded the capacity of that saw! I caught myself almost loading up the 10” saw and lugging it to the job site…. Then thought ‘use a hand saw idiot!’ 😂
I have also scored a piece of trim with a bullet in it. The poplar was discolored around it just as yours. It must alter the chemical make up around it?
I don't care who you are, if you are in construction and have been at it long enough you have a few tools laying around collecting dust. I once bought a brand new heavy hammer drill and 2 months later found one in my shop that I had only used once and forgot I had it.
For production carpenters, often we don't get this fancy material and if you do, this copemaster would work wonders. But if you're doing a simple profile I can see how it doesn't get you any faster results. Most of my trim lately has been just flat boards and no profile what so ever. It's a great tool but gotta apply it to a proper situation to get the best efficiency. It's like trying to tow a small tool trailer with a semi truck. Not gonna make you much money
Been running hitachi mitre saw for 30 yr. Always mitred crown. Super easy.
Just another decision you will have to cope with to get through the day.
Nice one :)
RUclips is going to demontize this becuase of the bullet in the trim 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 You’re probably right!
I run one of these moulding machines and we hit bullets all the time. I even seen musket balls. Luckily the bullets don’t damage the knives to bad. Nails and staples on the other hand
Love your channel. I have a radial arm saw I need to sell.
I know I have done the same thing with specialty tools because I didn’t feel they were worth the space they took up on my setup, or the time they take to setup/ teardown
Great video spencer
Thanks for the honest evaluation
I appreciate the honesty. Yes tool purchases are a good Feeling 👍. I know. But when a Craftsman like yourself learns a hand tool or a small tool like (a $200.00) electric tool.
We have to wrap our Brain 🧠 on money investment. Tool or Interest earning Investments. Smart thought on a 30 something Craftsman.
I learn a lot from your videos. Thank you!
Fantastic, i watched this 45 mins after buying that stupid phone charger thing from festool knowing it was a dumb purchase lol
The Collins Coping Foot is great but it took me a little while to learn to use it. I still finish it with a file and a Milwaukee Rotary Tool. I looked into the CopeMaster for a Rezimercial job but still couldn’t justify the cost. I think I would buy one if it were half the cost.
power grab or no more nails is great glue for the inside miters on painted crown, no drips
Another great video Spencer. 👍👍👍
How do you feel about the Collins coping shoe for jigsaws
Have you looked at The Coper? It uses a router and template you make out of epoxy.
I'm honestly not sure how your faster and as consistent. I would of loved to see a side by side speed comparison.
If we are talking a straight up side by side speed comparison, yes the copemaster is always going to be faster and more consistent. It is when you consider the time to make the templates, haul the machine to the job site, clean up the mess the machine makes, Load up the machine, and cost of purchasing the machine and learning it, that is where I find that there is an efficiency difference. It’s not a bad tool, and it will work great for a lot of people, but I just found it wasn’t worth keeping around with my personal workflow.
Spencer, any other tools for sale?
I was plaining some curly white oak and plained three a bunch of bird shot. Was kind of neat but freaked me out at first seeing all that shiny spots. Thought I broke a planner blade.
Thanks for the update…
Do you still like your Jamb Master??
Love it. Matter of fact I bought a second one just to have as a back up in case they stop making them. LOL
I think they are made in Edmonton Alberta Canada not far from my home.
He is doing another production run soon.
I put my name on the list…👍🏼
Great points, less is more sometimes
I went back and watched the Copemaster video after this one and really didn't see how the profile had to be set up or what you were unhappy with. Is the problem one of quality of cut or switch from left to right cope? For the size of houses you are doing you should be running three chop saws, a left 45, right 45, and 90. You'll never go back. Good stuff.
I have never begun to understand why it would be necessary to have three shopsaws. Swinging a saw is just not that big of a deal. Takes less time to swing a saw than setup and hop back and forth between three saws.
@@InsiderCarpentry "Don't understand" is exactly the reason you need to try it. Time is money and the houses you are doing are large providing the space. All three can set on same bench accordingly. There is time saving in keeping the saw in same setup but there is also a huge repeatability savings as the saw always stays in same position, much like a golf swing. This is especially important when doing stain grade trim as all fits have to be tight no caulk allowed. Any fine feather adjustments are made with flat shims under or behind stock. I typically slice refrigerator advertising magnets which allow me to make varying shim packs 1x 2x 3x. Bonus Round: Also can put some masking tape on saw throat and cut through it and it will leave exact reference where blade is cutting. I'm a little OCD but tools are cheaper than therapy
SLide in center with Makita LS1040 each end
I think it depends on how much your doing and if you have the template already made
My worst tool purchases have been the cordless Dewalt table saw and the La180 Stabila laser ( laser didn’t have the range that it said it had and the Dewalt saw can only rip one scriber on a 6 amp battery)
i rip half a day with my milwaukee but i got the 12.0 battery
@@erwinmartinez5293 I have predominantly Milwaukee as well, it’s a pretty decent brand
Seems like it would only be really useful on a commercial scale. When you've got to run a 10k feet of crown for an old folks home or whatever. Someone can just sit there for a day and cope it all and you're good to go.
Sum1 got a good deal im sure they will b happy and have better use 4 it
I kinda feel the same about lamello zeta. I've had it for about s year and a half, still use it, it's let me produce some bespoke furniture that would have been impossible without it. However, it's really expensive and the connectors themselves aren't exactly cheap.
I'm keeping it because I found a slightly non standard use for it and it's helping with some of my projects. But i don't think I'll ever get so much of my hard earned geld on another potential gimmick.
The bottom line is if 90 percent of tradesmen aren't using it perhaps I shouldn't either.
I'm about to buy one for a modern slat wall project. I'm sure I'll have the same experience. It will be a one hit wonder for this project, but after that... I doubt I'll use it much.
@@InsiderCarpentry i recently got the flexus connectors and noticed you only tighten them a bit for dry fitting or some of them lock and cannot be opened again.
Have fun!
It's not loss if you view it as a rental fee??
"my old age of 34" lol....i used to think that.
Thank you for the bullet point.
Rent one when you need it. Got it!
Thanks
I have been doing the same thing. People keep asking, are you quitting carpentry,so I have explain so they don’t call someone else. Lol
I sold mine and use The Coper. It has been unreal especially for $150
I love "un-cope-able" - did I spell it right? it is a wonderful expression!🙂
Whats the name of the floor? Who makes it?
New tools are great. But they canibalize existing tools. I don’t have guys working with me so if I buy a new tool, I have to be on that tool myself. Therefore I’m no longer on other tools I already have. The more tools one has, the lesser the ROI per tool.
Our business is great because it only takes 10-30k investment to get a truck and tools. But I find that we run out of investment opportunities very quickly, passed that 30k mark. Unlike other trades such as excavation company. One can get in with a tiny $15k excavator doing landscaping and go all the way to a $500k machine, and more.
Agreed. The ROI diminished quickly once you are established and have what you need.
Let’s face it, tools are to men what shoes are to women, especially when you’re young. I’ve found that guys who work out of their trucks or have minimum shop space tend to be smarter about tools for the obvious reason.
Very true. I was a tool junky not too many years ago... I hate spending money on tools now... mainly because I don't really need anything more and the money is better off being invested.
Great walk through.
$2,500 yeeeesshhh Better get something from it than nothing i suppose. A lot of those specialty tools aren't worth the cost.
Successful experiment. (Never again.). Now the challenge is how to link your current conclusions to the original video.
Great video
The Copemaster isn't for you.
It's for the $16 an hour kid who is running left copes from the garage up to the third floor master suite where you're working.
I'm so damaged by the internet that I read the title and said to myself, "Who is the copemaster?"
DeWalt has a chart on their website with all of the possible mitre and bevel angles for all of the possible wall angles, for both 52/38 and 45/45 crown...
Bosch has an angle finder that tells you the bevel and miter settings for any crown on any wall angle, plus a few more things. It's a hidden jem of a tool that not too many people know about.
I only have one word for you…nested
I'd be interested to know how many viewers have read De Architectura. It's next level
Random question: do you know what primer they're using on that unfinished poplar trim?
Always Zinsser Cover Stain. Great bond and sands well.
@@InsiderCarpentry thanks!
Спасибо!
Where do you sell your used tools ?
Facebook Marketplace and Ebay
lesson is to buy the expensive tool on Ebay for half-off.
22 long rifle
So is the Jambmaster a keeper?
Love it. Matter of fact I bought a second one just to have as a back up in case they stop making them. LOL
@@InsiderCarpentry I’m getting ready to take the plunge on one because it makes total sense to setting a trouble free door. I do a lot of home repair and I encounter many doors that have been improperly installed and the customer has been frustrated for years.
Sell it and THEN do the RUclips video on how it didn't work out, well played...
A bullet, oh my God, don't touch it put it down it's so dangerous. Just kidding
_reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!_
That is a pellet from a bb gun.
with expensive wood working equipment buy used . theres always shops going out if buisness. I bought a computerized horizontal panel saw that cuts 4 sheets at a time for 1000 dollars at a auction
Dont look at that retirement account for a few years pal i know im not
Onwards and upwards!
Are you going to keep your door setting jig ?
Love it. Matter of fact I bought a second one just to have as a back up in case they stop making them. LOL
@@InsiderCarpentry does the extra width kit do a 6’ door - 74” wide ?
Great Chanel by the way
Anyone try the copper? Used with a router
ANOTHER THING IS THAT YOUR DOING PAINTING GRADE WOOD MOST OF THE TIME