Pick Up Artistry: A Measured Response
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2017
- Game: All the joy of sex, but with human misery instead of joy!
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"Tap her 3 times on the shoulder, wait for her to turn around, and deliver your opening line. If you do this while holding a bowl, you will clip through the floor which will cause the now open date counter to glitch and you will get infinite dates. You can trade those for healing items with your local vendor."
After that congratulate yourself... no, not like that :#
your comment made my vision go blurry. well done
There aren't enough feminist speedrunning jokes in this poor world.
This is amazing, it needs to be a thing.
Read this again a month later. Still made me laugh hard
so basically these books are "how to emotionally abuse your girlfriend and every other women you meet for dummies"
Yes
Big of you to assume these people can get girlfriends
It's almost like some portion of the population has lower than average self-esteem, by definition, and you can browbeat them into submission. Some may even be physically attractive!
It's honestly disgusting
In my case I was groomed by a 22 year old I’m 17 he let his 16 younger brother fetishise me and use me as a flirting doll.
I told my wife about the "made a website against oral sex" guy.
Her response? "Imagine hating oral sex so much that you learn HTML"
Yeah that’s some dedication. HTML sucks imo
@@-alovelygaycat- Ayo html is fine CSS sucks
@@ara8692 center a div I dare you
@@rhysbaker2595 as I've said CSS sucks ass
But creating the div is easy
Learning HTML is fun though.
I just want to tell that one guy if the thought of sex repulses you, you might be asexual. It's okay for men to be asexual.
Reminds me of this TikTok of a dude ranting and raving about how much better it would be if guys could just marry their straight buddy instead of a woman. He went on to excitedly describe how they could pool their income, hang out, split the housework or hire someone to do it, and spend some time with each other because it would be nice.
Uuuuuuh. He can do all of that with a woman. Also, I hope that “straight” dude and his “straight” buddy are very happy together. Like damn, dude. It’s okay to be gay or bisexual (or asexual). Good grief.
@@alexwyatt2911 I'm sure people in his comments ATE that braindead shxt up too
Given his... everything, it's very possible he's just pornsick. He's ruined intimacy for himself.
@@alexwyatt2911 uh... my boyfriend and I watched that tiktok and did not come away with the impression that he wasn't straight. Because he was. It was just a standard tired-of-women rant. It was funnier because the guy seemed to lack self-awareness, but at least he wasn't attacking women ig. I don't see how that relates to being ace though
@@joshyoung1440 How is a rant about being sick and tired of women somehow _not_ an “attack” (i.e. misogynistic commentary) on women? It’s very telling that this guy could figure out reasonable strategies for cohabitating with his hypothetical spouse, who is a man, but this guy hadn’t considered implementing any of those strategies with his actual spouse, who is woman.
Plenty of men, who identify as cishet, are sexually attracted to women but that’s it. These kind of men only love, admire, respect, and enjoy spending time with other men, not women. They may identify as cishet but they’re only romantically interested in other men; subsequently, these kind of men are miserable in romantic relationships with women.
The point the OP and I were making is that it would be helpful if people stopped forcing themselves to fit into a cishet box; they’re making themselves and others miserable. That one dude is repulsed by sex and the TikTok dude hates being in romantic relationships with women. It would be best for everyone involved if they stopped forcing themselves to do those things.
"Never tell a girl that you like her"
"Beta males have problems telling girls that they like them"
I'm getting conflicting intel here.
Nah, the first probably means that you have a crush on her (because she could crush you and that's not alpha) while the second is probably that you are sexually attracted to her (as only betas would suppress the urge to immediately speak about what arouses them to the person who aroused them). Basically, cat calls are fine, but no saying "I'm in love with you". Hopefully speaks for itself.
Christopher Brown Catcalls are not fine
@@zzombiedogg I'm aware of that. I was speaking about what I thought the "pick up artist" community meant by these seemingly contradictory phrases, not my own opinion on the matter. I thought saying "Hopefully speaks for itself" about favoring catcalling and never saying "I love you" to a woman in any context, would make my lack of personal support for those statements clear, but evidently I was wrong in that assumption.
@@christopherbrown1848 I know you're aware of how dumb this is but its just literally so dumb becasue they're literally saying "some feelings are *alpha feelings(TM)* while other different feelings are *cuck feelings(TM)* and I arbitrarily decide which is which" and it's just fucking so stupidd aaaaahhhh
When you reveal a truth about yourself, you *are* making yourself vulnerable to another person (whether that truth is attraction or love or trust or whatever you feel). Like when you say "i feel x about you" you're making yourself vulnerable to rejection. That's the way human interaction works, in fact, it's what makes it meaningful (that people hang out with you becasue they actually *want* to). Why this fucking dumbass arbitrary line between attraction and love? Whats the fucking difference?
I like the bit about alphas living in their own reality, it speaks for itself
“Since sex is supposed to be fun, don’t take it too seriously by questioning whether you are doing things right.”
you know, that’s actually good advice there-
“Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own,”
_o h_
Haha, this was exactly my reaction to the t.
sweesbees there is a difference between worrying about her pleasure during sex and being attentive. There is some truth to being worried and overly attentive to it can get in the way of one's own pleasure. I'm not defending rooshbag or his ilk btw
unstoppableExodia
I get & agree with what you're trying to say but somehow I don't think that's what Roosh the Douche was intending to say
Lady D yeah I've not really watched his videos or read his books but I imagine he advocates for treating sex like a smash and grab operation where a guy should only be concerned with his own pleasure and if the girl enjoyed it too then hey good for her.
unstoppableExodia
yeah, I've not seen nor read his material either, just the portions in this video. The impression I got is similar to urs except replacing "then hey good for her" with "then ur doing it wrong, she doesn't deserve pleasure" - guys like him make me glad I'm a lesbian lol
"Women are being encouraged to look like fat outer space cyborgs"
As they absolutely should, that sounds cool as fuck
And kinda hot tbh
Wait, would the cyborgs be FROM space, or are the cyborgs IN space?
@@LuckyHicks2 Yes.
tru, talk about variety
not to oversimplify, i usually only say this as a way to possibly convince the inflexible types, that "more variety" (i.e. representation, diversity, equity, and inclusion, the stuff they love to whine about) in race, complexion, looks, people is nice, so why not...y'know, have a bigger variety of people? dunno if it would convince them, and i can't say it applies well to our actual reason to do so (equality), but i like to think it could sway them.
I once saw an adult coloring book called Fat Women in SPAAAACE! The pictures were exactly what it said om the tin. I still regret not buying it.
I actually had one friend(a girl) who was watching Roosh. When I asked why would she torture herself, she said she was doing research.
When I asked what for, she said she wants to be ready if someone is stupid enough to try these so she can steer clear of them.
Alphas failed to consider that women can read.
Alphas failed to consider women
Your friend might be onto something I mean the fact that men like this are actually put there constantly on the prowl for their next target means we should be spreading their "advice" among women at large so they can identify when they are being conned by one of these types VS when it is a genuine guy. 🤔
I love that woman already . In a platonic way.
Cute of you to think the kind of guy who calls himself an "alpha" would be interested in a woman that can read.
@@Jermbot15....
.... I mean you're not wrong 😞
Pickup artists and garbage men should switch names
Actually garbage men do a service, unlike PUA's.
Underrated comment
being an ex-muslim has turned you into a terrible person it seems
a self own is when you make a try hard comment that makes no sense and dont even have the self esteem to give yourself even one like
If Subway insists that its staff are sandwich artists, then I will happily call bin men pickup artists.
The descriptions of sex have to be the most libido-slaughtering sentences I've ever heard.
So that's a no to the "genetic package" then?
you trynna say "pump slowly, getting slightly farther in with each pump until you cock is wet." isn't the height of erotic literature?
I think it is supposed to be. 'it's not about the joy of sec but about the sex itself, and the bragging rights of course'
My balls retracted back into my pelvis and reversed my puberty. That's how bad it is.
@@JohnSmith-bg2yu "Detach the gamete heads of your cleft semipenis into the ooze before the female retracts her ovipositor from the viscous egg mass adhered to her ossified exoskeleton."
The list of ways to crush a girl's self-esteem sounds like a guide to most effectively and efficiently mentally abusing the person you have a relationship with. These points are literally some of what abuse survivers will talk about.
The whole damn article feels like parody, like a way to show and educate victims the exact methods abusers use. It baffles me he is saying it unironically
Omg yes. The entire time I was thinking exactly this. This is what abusers do. They treat you like objects that they can force their own hatred and problems on without any consideration to you or the person you are. To them, you’re a toy to lash out at when you’re mad or upset.
Yeah this is just a 'how to' for abusers.
Because at the end of the day, that’s what this is all about. No wonder they actually hate the sex, it’s just another abuse instrument to them.
Oh yeah no, that is literally just everything abusers do. Major fucking red flags if someone does it even unintentionally, and this guy is here meticulously describing how to do it methodically. Trust me when I say this is actual, literal psychopath behaviour
“Porn is my teacher.”
Honestly, what else do you need to know?
“Why do you think you’re qualified to be a police officer, sir?”
“I’ve watched hundreds of crime dramas.”
Probably more justified in the latter case.
They don't often shoot unarmed black people in crime dramas.
@@flamemasterelan yeah that’s fair actually
@flamemasterelan beat me to it, like, i was gonna bring up, ye, something about the reality of police, period, vs. the fancied up works of fiction, which I still say ACAB on, even as the fictional ones have a lot more going for them
@@flamemasterelan I came here to say this, but knew in my heart it had already been said
It’s funny because when they say that it immediately lets you know everything you need to know lol
The fact that these “artists” are both homophobic but sing praises about the masculinity of the ancients Greek man is hilarious
oh the olive oil lube
@@caramel9154 oh dear zeus-
oh what am i even saying zeus was probably the biggest user
@@HN-kr1nf Alexa, play love machine by Wham!
Pick-up Artists: Don't be gay, be manly like the Ancient Greeks!
Ancient Greece: You know what's manly-er than a man? *TWO* men!
@@Kefkaesque13 “what’s manlier than 2 men?!” Basically sums up both Ancient Greek misogyny and sexuality.
"Women aren't trained to submit to men anymore." My god that's uncomfortable.
He says it like it's a bad thing.
I thought these guys didn't really exist, that they were trolls online, being ridiculous just to pick fights or be funny. Then I was pursued by a guy just like these dudes. We hung out twice (not dates, not meals or movies or something, cuz he had no money). He told me in all seriousness that women were designed to submit to men, and I'd be happier if I just "stopped thinking" and quit working ("it's unnatural for women to be bosses of men in the workplace"). I declined to go out with him anymore, so he harassed me at work (retail) for a few months until I finally moved to a different state for a new job.
He had three kids by two different women. And he was the biggest loser I've ever met in real life.
@@The_Serpent_of_Eden Sounds like a pretty standard narcissistic pattern there. It used to confuse the hell out of me as to why the obvious truth of "Your ideas are just wrong, change them and experience more success" doesn't penetrate their heads. Now from personal experience it seems that introspection isn't a universal ability for humans, some people literally cannot form the idea of being wrong in their heads, which means they will never learn why they keep repeating the cycle which, in the case of the guy you mention, ends up with lots of divorces.
Then there's the trap of nearsightedness, where pickup artist techniques get "results" sooner than a more healthy approach. Meaning that anyone trying to form a relationship after using PUA their whole life will feel it's slow and not working, when really they're just being impatient or just finding out the person they're going after was incompatible sooner.
@@loturzelrestaurant yes I actually discovered him first. Love Forrest’s videos.
@@loturzelrestaurant I haven’t heard of them. More great new channels to check out? Alright! Thank you!
Fun fact: the _thing_ Roosh uses is not a lego, but a piece of the "gormiti", a line of monster toys made and published in Italy that was popular around 2006 and quickly disappeared from markets. They became quite impossible to find after 2012, even in Italy. I have no fucking idea how this guy ended up with them
We had Gormiti in Greece too, I still have a box full of them at home, xD
In Spain Gormiti also went pretty strong for some years. Nowadays, no more are sold as far as I know
Something potentially funnier to note, is that Roosh fell down the manosphere rabbit hole in college. He is also about 40 years old rn. He either A somehow found these toys out and about, or B he has had them the whole time. By the time I assume that video came out, he must’ve been doing pick up artistry for a decade
@@royalhydra9790 "Hey girl, wanna see my gormiti collection?"
OH I KNOW THOSE I REMEMBER SEEING THEM AS A SMALL CROATIAN CHILD LIKE 10-7 YEARS AGO
"Worrying about her pleasure will sacrifice your own"
This is the problem with these guys in a nutshell.
Seriously, it makes guys like me look even better for simple basic things
@@bfure1 yeah I wonder how many guys watch this and basically go "look at me, I'm not a shitty egoistic asshole"
@@blackasthesky nah, they are psychopaths instead
In simple terms, this means “be a selfish sociopathic prick to every women you see.” and the sad thing is some people are actually stupid enough to believe women will like them for this, instead of making everyone around them distance themselves immediately.
Exactly, they're monkey-brained narcissists.
For the very first time, I wildly disagree with you on something
Why did you throw out your legos?
Yeah, you could sell them for a lot of money. The ones you don't love.
I mean, totally pick out the best spaceship you made when you were a kid, and keep it forever, because spaceships are awesome!
SPACESHIP!!!
I want all of my playmobil back. I don't forgive my parents for dumping them while I was in college.
I'm very lucky my parents honored my LEGOs. Even if it was as much out of respect to me as it was to the money I could make selling them.
"I talked it over with my nice guy friends, and we all concluded she was totally into me."
Sooo everybody agreed she liked you, except her.
Too right! These guys would probably have better luck if they stopped asking their friends to read other people's minds, and just asked the owners of those minds directly. Pickup artists are basically unnecessary middlemen.
@@meenee lol, true 😄
Being a transgender lesbian is just the best man. All I have to do is say I want a chicken sandwich and some nebulous non entity I've titled "society" will go take one from a straight white man and give it to me.
Change of plans lads, I know this is clearly sarcasm, but after reaching the Matt Forney part of this video I feel the need to make sure not one single person can possibly think I agree with these people.
I see what you did there. Nice :D
I wholeheartedly agree, as a non-binary, since people don't recognize my existence, i can clip through walls and be invisible
I have robed so many straight white banks
So you are the stealer of the Sandwich i have Put 1 hour Into Making. I will never forgive you. Was it atleast good?
Can confirm, a trans lesbian has my chicken sandwich now.
Referring to women as "The Desirable Female" is genuinely one of the creepiest phrases I've ever heard. There is so much wrong with the context and implications behind those three simple words.
it's a subset.
I always have to think of Ferengi when I hear people refer to women as feeeeeeemales xD
Sounds like something I'd say as a joke when trying to sound verbose and inhuman
It sounds like an alien trying to find the perfect test subject to perform horrific experiments on rather than a dude wanting to get his dick wet.
"Anything a woman or a gay person wants is theirs." Really? Then I want an awesome boyfriend and to abolish billionaires...
Well, chop chop. Get on it society.
I'll have what he's having with a prolific carrier on the side, pls
I can only supply one of those things, unfortunately.
I guess womanhood and gayness cancel each other out because lesbians just yearn
@@ThePi314Man You can singlehandedly abolish billionaires?!
@@chickenskink1 just give me an AK and five hours
These people describe sex like they're secretly robots who have never felt the touch of another human being before.
irwegwert or aliens.
"Yes this is how you can procreate with the hoo-man womans!"
O H . S H I T . T H E H U - M A N S F O U N D O U T. 011100010001101010100101101!!!!
By buying my book, you can learn how to get human females to allow you to repeatedly push your stiffened flesh pole into their moist birth canals!
god it felt gross writing that
I see your investment in those books hasn't paid off you sad virgin you
+jamadan d everything you just said is wrong. All of it.
It would be hilarious if it didn't also sound remarkably like the ramblings of a sex offender.
In 2018 Roosh V was deplatformed and basically lost his career. In 2019 he became a devout Christian and condemned extramarital sex.
I almost thought this was a joke. So I looked it up and, sure enough, he's mad for Jesus now!
I was going to say good for him but, honestly, I don't know if it is? At least he doesn't write pick up books any more.
I mean he's already a sex pest, a massive hypocrite, a piece of shit person and should be actually castrated, so it is very fitting je became a Christian extremist. Maybe he can even become a priest and go full circle back to a sex criminal.
Bro literally turned his life around so far that he's a cunt again
@@conor-smith572
still a terrible person and an admitted rapist, just a marginally less dangerous one
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
"The gays can have anything they want."
Yeah, except *MARRIAGE*
or like, basic human rights?
Countries in which heterosexual marriage is illegal:
They can marry lol
@@Nugcon what basic human rights don’t they have
@@luisandrade2254 There is a world outside of America, dude.
Also, technically legal =/= accessible to everyone. A lot of people have homophobic families.
I'm slightly surprised none of those guys ever suggested "Kidnap a girl and hope Stockholm Syndrome sets in before the cops find you." as the ultimate advice.
Minus the kidnapping that's basically what they're trying to say.
Psychologically abuse your target just enough to where they don't want to leave but are still afraid of you.
STALKHOME SYNDROME
That's basically the plot of Passengers.
Marcela Citroni
Yes, it does seem to lead that way.
Marcela Citroni or you could buy a sex robot...
Can you get restraining orders against people you've never met before?
m o o d
Sadly, no you can't. At least to my knowledge.
@@hamluk_ I am sorry, but no you cannot get a restraining order against someone you haven't met before or at least had contact of some sort.
In his case however you don't need to be afraid of rape anymore because he became a fundamentalist Christian and now condemnes sex without marriage, so yeah, don't marry him I guess.... Quite an interesting journey, no?
I'm not even a woman and I want a restraining order against them.
Jaromir Pavlat He is also now into maskuline bread making
“BANG UKRAINE”
Now THAT title aged like milk.
Yeah. Putin may seem like a guy, though, who would read those books. 😑
@@radschele1815 because Vladimir decided to start Putin it where it doesn’t belong?
@@lyokianhitchhiker maybe also because of the war crime mass rapes
@@radschele1815 I just wanted to make the unit pun.
Yeah considering the mass rapes going on there
You must hold off until the right moment and release your tail feathers, dazzling the female with a dance to a mixed reception of shock and awe
And then screech loudly into the air twice, to make sure she wants to lay eggs- I mean have sex
No more Alpha Males - Get ready for the PEACOCK MALES.
…I admittedly don’t know much about birds.
@@LuckyHicks2 It was a peacock
I don't have the peacock lego set though
Frankly doing a mating dance would probably work BETTER than whatever freaky shit it is these guys do
"Since sex is supposed to be fun, don't take it too seriously by questioning whether you're doing things right."
This is actually really good advice, an--
"Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own."
....aaaaaand you ruined it.
TheOriginal GGHarasser -_- no one pretends they’re in it for their partner 100%. It’s obviously mutual
@TheOriginal GGHarasser but it is though.
I mean it's nice to be a good house guest.
you meant to write "saeeeriously" (love shaun's accent)
@TheOriginal GGHarasser
And that's why you're forever lonely and women avoid you.
Normal people have relationships based on mutual respect.
Whiny gamergaters cry that women won't fuck them, then make up an entire ideology to justify their whining.
As a woman, you know what's really hot?
Viewing us as humans and not alien monsters.
Well thats a pretty low standart
No. I will never. Only my hot sexy bros understand me.
There is nothing sexier than a man treating me like a living human being gets my kitten purring.😍😍😍😍
Hmmm, not sure about that, think I'm gonna listen to these borderline stalker guys who've touched a boob once and think they're sex experts instead.
Just in case it wasn't clear, that was sarcasm.
SILENCE FEMOID
"Anything that a woman or a gay person wants is theirs" Wow I'm both, why did no one tell me this?? I would like my own home, free healthcare, to play Glinda on Broadway, many, many new dolls, and an endless supply of bubble tea, please.
...Aaanytime now.
Need an update, have they patched this or does it still work?
As a bi guy, do I get in on this? Or just half?
@@CirianAlani Worth a try!
@@sizskie they made it a battle pass feature
"This video took a really long time to make, turns out doing tons of research and reading a bunch of books is actually really time consuming"
Oh sweet summer child. If only you knew what the future held.
"How to crush a woman's self esteem" alternatively titled "how to abuse your significant other and damage their mental state" good lord
chuckold this is basically just the "abusive relationship" community
What's your interpretation of "over [sic] confident"? Coming from these guys, I take it to mean "any woman who views herself as a full human being rather than a domestic/sexual slave to her rightful master, aka a man" If she really and truly were a "bitch", to use your language, why would a man have any interest in her in the first place?
Rebecca Anonymous there's a fine line between being over confident and knowing your self worth. If you think those two are synonymous, then I'm afraid you're not a very pleasant person, to begin with.
Fact is, there are some women who are overly confident and have dysfunctional behaviour with inflated egos. And there are some guys who may like the way a woman looks, who poses those characteristics.
And get the fuck over yourself. Its not sexist to point out shitty behaviour that some women poses. They're adults, like men, and should be held responsible at an equal standard. Unless of course you're a traditionalist who thinks women should be coddled and protected like kids. Which would be very ironic, if you call yourself a true liberal.
I think you may have missed the point of my comment...nowhere did I conflate overconfidence/arrogance with knowing one's self-worth. My question was, what is your idea of overconfidence? Your apparent endorsement of Roosh V, a man who believes rape should be legalized and that women shouldn't be educated, suggests that your interpretation of egotism in women might be more extreme than that of someone whose views don't align with those of Roosh. There's a not-so-fine line between honoring the fact that women are human beings and saying that they need to be coddled and protected, which I never implied. I would argue that your quickness to judge me as being full of myself and unpleasant without any real indication of either trait would be projection on your part, i.e., you're the unpleasant egotist here. Then again, I could very well be wrong about that; it's not for me to say who you are.
Rebecca Anonymous when did I endorse Roosh? I'm not a PUA, nor do I subscribe to his ideas. And as far as Roosh V wanting rape to be legal, that's out right false and propaganda. If you had actually read the article from his site, you'd realize it was satire. He even wrote "rape is wrong" in many if his paragraphs. But of course, I wouldn't expect you to do real research, and instead just listen to fake news and swallow it up like it's the holy truth passed down by the "woke"(aka fake journalists) individuals of society, right?
I do think most women need to be educated on men's issues. Because it's often that I've seen women (especially those who lean on the left) feel threatened at the mention of the fact that men too face societal issues and it's not just women who are "oppressed". Feminists feel threatened when the MRA talk about legitimate issues that men face. Its almost as if they're too afraid that their lies will be exposed and their power over government and society will weaken. Hence the reason why they've threatened several MRA conferences with violence, and will try their best to shut down any dissenting opinion. Just look at what happened at the university of Toronto. Its pretty apparent that these people have no respect for freedom of speech and civil discourse, and would rather use dictatorial and immature tactics to "win". Which clearly backfired. And thank God it did.
I'm a Japanese. I clicked this video without even understanding what exactly "pick up artistry" means(my English is poor). But as I watch through, I slowly realized this is about the book I once bought at the co-op store in my university looking for serious advice about romance only to throw away after reading first 30 pages or so saying "I mean if I were courageous enough to speak to 100 random women I wouldn't need this book..." That's right, a translated version of one of these books made it on the shelf of the co-op store in a JAPANESE NATIONAL UNIVERSITY. I didn't read through the book so I didn't really realize how misogynistic the book is, but man, this realization sent a chill down my spine.
Wow this is genuinely disturbing. Also I appreciate how you say you have "Poor English" yet you're more eloquent than like 90% of people in comment sections.
I would’ve made sure to “lose” every copy from the library, even if it means i’d have to pay fees
@@V4rya you realize that would probably only result in the library buying more and giving them more money.
I think you have very good english!
lol It's kinda funny that you say your English is poor, but the only grammatical error I can see is your very first sentence. After that, your English is perfect. You even use an idiom. Other than that first sentence, your grammar and punctuation is better than most people care to do on RUclips.
As a filipino woman who used to work in the BPO industry, seeing that section about "Filipino women" invokes a primordial feelings of cringe within me.
Prolly cuz you saw this exact attitude in a certain percentage of the expat men you know I suppose...
It's really telling that these people don't seem to actually enjoy sex or like women.. but still seem to be hyper focused on it. If you strip those things away all you get left with is just one person having power over another. Feels very rapey.
The only thing missing is the lack of consent
@@lyokianhitchhiker Considering Roosh is an admitted rapist, that's not exactly missing, now is it.
@@lyokianhitchhikerthis is the second time I see you commenting about „consent“ that is the difference. If you manipulate, scare a person into consenting you’re a rapist. Dude you’re weird. I think you want to excuse yourself for being a bit rapy.
@@lyokianhitchhiker Roosh V did that too... and wrote about it in at least one book... which a bbc series confronted him on
@@susannehuber3996If anything, I have a fear of BEING raped by women
“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” --C.S. Lewis
Keep the legos.
Legos kick ass
Pass the legos on.
"What's the point of being grown-up if you can't be childish sometimes?"
@@moredetonation3755 I would argue that the whole point of being an adult is to make ourselves feel better about being children on the inside.
Adulthood doesn't mean you can't play with legos, it just means you need to buy your own legos.
I feel some national pride when I see that Roosh made a book called "Don't bang Denmark" it makes me think that we as a nation did something right.
hedgehog3180 Avatar checks out.
I saw "Don't Bang Latvia" as well. Sounds like the ladies in your country and theirs saw him coming a mile off.
Unicorn Poo... i hope youre not american (wich likely you are since theyre the biggest group of youtube comentators)... If so, youre in no position to call anyone fat, wether theyre men or women
Denmark really is the greatest country on earth. Well done.
TuAmigoElMorrocoy danish
5:45 Roosh V talks about Ukrainian women like a Roman scholar describing the lifestyles of Germanic tribes
That you, Lonerbox? XD
@@godofpencils01 H A R D // M E N
Just goes to show just how russians has always seen Ukraine.
The scary thing to me is that in their view all relationships are about power, which sounds remarkable similar to the way rapists think.
The only difference is that he respects the concept of "no"
@@lyokianhitchhiker but what counts as no is pretty different
@@sabsain2399 you know what I mean. I mean they’re rapist mindset without rapist behavior
"Remarkably similar" nothing. Google Roosh V to find the wiki article on him which includes a quote from him where he is openly in favor of legalizing rape.
@@lyokianhitchhikerhe doesnt he confessed to raping someone (roushV)
Jontron controversy: I can't believe one of my fav youtubers is a white surpremacist :(
Hbomb controversy: I can't believe one of my favorite youtubers told me LEGO is for kids :(
Fucking Checkmate. I knew hbomber was the real bad guy in all of this!
He just went to LEGOLand. FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL LEFTIST CUCKS
Right?! Unsubscribed 😰
ikr :/ :/
You know, it does bother me a little. I mean he uses that Lego shtick to laugh at Rushvee, while having Lego himself. It's like laughing at anime watchers for watching anime while watching DBZ... It's a low blow, and I expect better reasons, or at least a better joke than "he's a baby who plays Lego!"
Especially since Rushvee bought these Lego, while Hbomber kept those...
It's a stupid video for Rushvee to make. It's kinda hilarious!
I love how he says "porn is my teacher" as if that's something to be proud of.
That's also how Chris Chan thinks...
That sentence just turned on all the red lights in my head. If I remember anything from my sex ed, it's that porn is an awful source when it comes to information
That's the problem. He's learning how to function in the real world from fantasy. Would be like a general learning war strategy from watching game of thrones.
the biggest OOF
"I love how he says "porn is my teacher" as if that's something to be proud of."
No pride here but family sucks sometimes... Plus, i actually DID learn one thing or two watching porn :) (smiley face)
this reminds me of the one time I was targeted by what I can only assume was someone trying (emphasis on Trying) PUA. I was trying to photocopy something when a guy I'd never seen before walked up and asked me if I knew how the copier worked, and ofc I tried to be helpful and briefly explained, though after a point I realised he didn't seem particularly interested and had just been waiting for his turn to talk. he then asked a series of questions about what year of study I was in and threw in a number of, honestly uncomfortable "compliments" and lines about how there was "plenty of time to get to know eachother" and it just baffled me bc anytime I tried to respond and carry on the conversation in a natural way, he'd veer into another line that was waaay too familiar and intimate for two people who'd literally just met. I don't think he even asked my name or gave me his, and nothing came of it, the conversation ended and I was left wondering what that had all been
obviously this is pretty tame as weird interactions with strangers go, but I realised afterwards that what had made it feel so off was that I was essentially being treated like an NPC that you just had to nonsensically compliment or say the right platitudes to and some sense of intimacy or interest would... magically happen? I can only assume what had happened minutes before was the guy being told by his friends "look, there's a chick by the copier, try it out on her". and I'm not saying it's bad to try talking to strangers, or to not put yourself out there if you have poor social skills or anything (been there, trust me) but it feels quite dehumanising when someone is (very obviously, in this case) essentially making any random woman he comes across be a test subject for his pick-up lines. this guy wasn't remotely interested in me or even in having a friendly chat, he was just trying to chat up A Girl, and that's what doomed the attempt from the start, tbh
anyway, great video hbomber, I initially came for the sherlock video and I've been working my way back from there :)
I think you've really hit on something with the comparison to NPCs. I had a co-worker who would do this exact same thing (albeit in a much less direct way); any time we were talking, it's like he was just manufacturing a conversation where he could say something he thought would impress me and then ignoring what I was saying to jump back into his script. I could chalk a lot of that up to nerves and social awkwardness, but he would also put on a really fake personality whenever he was around me, like he didn't understand I could still see him whenever he moved more than eight feet away. It just created a situation where any time he was around me I felt like I was being lied to and manipulated. Weird stuff.
@@eyesofthecervino3366
I think most women have a story or two to tell about those dehumanizing creeps. Not sure how many of those there are, but they're playing a numbers game.
Like any good scammer they know that you don't have to be perfect, or convincing. Have a few spelling errors in your "police report", have a heavy indian accent when you pretend to call from "Microsoft Tech Support", or talk like all you want is deliver your lines while completely ignoring anything your would-be-victim says.
That might make 98% of people hanging up or walking away from you immediatly. But almost all of them would have smelled the fish before getting their credit card/dropping their panties anyway.
So.. more time to focus on the 2% that are still there.
This is not only sad for those 2%, but very annoying for the other 98%, and the only thing I can think of is increasing the opportunity costs for that numbers game.
- Tell the tech support to wait while you turn on your computer and then leave the phone while doing something worthwhile.
- Ask the PU'A' to white while you tell your friends you're leaving with him and then go back to dancing.
They steal 5 Minutes of your time, steal ten of theirs.
@@_annoyed4692
That's an interesting idea, though I'd definitely recommend caution with antagonizing strangers who already don't see you as a person.
Sadly, I don't think my coworker was playing a numbers game at all -- in a way I'd much prefer it if he had been, since then he would've been willing to cut his losses instead of hovering around me for months trying to figure out how to manipulate a direct "no" into him getting what he wanted and becoming progressively angrier that it wasn't working. He just genuinely didn't seem to understand that I was a whole separate person with my own feelings, and that part of being a good person is being able to respect other's feelings, even if they're not what you wanted them to be. I think a big part of why it continues to bug me is that I have absolutely no idea how I could have handled things differently, or how I would handle it if it ever comes up again. I don't want to be accused of being some crazy chick who overreacts to any time a guy opens a door or lifts a box for her, but when a guy's throwing himself in your personal space to open doors and lift boxes for you, then stepping a couple of yards back to start throwing stuff around breaking shit when that doesn't develop into a relationship . . . I don't think it's subtle how that's going to end up. I don't want to have to go through that again.
@@eyesofthecervino3366I've only just graduated high school and a bunch of the things you said feel painfully similar to my recent experiences with bullying interestingly enough. It's the middle of the night though, so if you'd like for me to elaborate I'll get back to this later lol
@@ArteArt39
By all means.
I'll be honest if someone taps me THREE TIMES in my shoulder, they're already at a bad point. I had to tell a coworker to not grab my attention like that, it's just jarring and annoying. three times? what am i, a goddamn door??
is two times okay?
Nah, just don’t tap people on their shoulders. Everyone reacts differently. I used to react violently to any sudden physical contact, which was never pleasant for the person trying to get my attention. I try not to nowadays, but it’s an ingrained habit. Someone might be ticklish or be anxious about physical contact because of SA. Just say hello, or walk in front of the person and make eye contact before addressing them.
Seriously just say “excuse me” tapping someone 3 times is immediately annoying
"cunnulingus is unatural" * lesbian laughter in the distance *
Cunnulingus rocks! As a straight male, I love going down on my gf, because she tastes clean and I love her squeals of pleasure.
@@veemon u rock, dude
Heh
Everytime I see a man complaining about oral sex on women, an orgasm ceases to exist.
tired of cisgender straight men acting like they have any understanding of biologically female people's sexual pleasure if they never studied it. some men do, but a lot don't. i see comments on all types of sites that are so illiterate on biologically female people's orgasms and squirting, as well as how breasts, curves, and hips work. it's so weird and annoying. it's worse when they're made up by a man pretending to be a Christian woman to "prove" it.
Women are encouraged to look like space cyborgs? Where can I see this glorious cyberpunk future?!
vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/0/0e/PeridotNoLimbs.png/revision/latest?cb=20150925014545
Clearly, the peak of human evolution.
I'm fine with that. A lot of cyberpunk girls are hot, yo.
"I Threw out my Legos when I became an adult" is the only part I take umbrage with.
I get being sex repulsed but you don’t have to be weird about it
Jesus, I think I wrote more tantilizing descriptions of sex in the Zelda fanfictions I did when I was 15.
Admittedly there are tween books more erotic, considering we read one in 6th grade at school. The main couple ended up in a hole near a lake half naked, the whole class lost it giggling.
Uhhh, may I see this, uh, historical documents?
For research purposes, of course...
"You know, now that the kingdom is saved, I think there's one more cavern you need to explore", said Zelda.
"HYAA!", said Link, as that is the only thing he is capable of saying.
@@Paralellex I'ma sickend butt'a intrigued
@@Paralellex
I'm disgusted.
I didn't say stop.
>"Don't take sex too seriously"
>refers to jizzing as "ejecting a genetic package"
"One last question before we get started: do you have any disposable income?" That pretty much sums up every internet guru ever.
I love how at 13:38, Roosh chose the sculpture of “Laocoön and His Sons” as his ideal of masculinity when one of the interpretations of Laocoön’s story is that he was a temple priest who vowed to remain celibate but didn’t and got eaten by sea serpents as punishment
The fact that these guys don't seem to actually like sex, much less the company of women, is the most baffling part.
Think a lot just want the social proof/bragging rights of arm candy, they actually have contempt they can't hide for 'foids'
Yeah, I didn't expect that. It seems more like they're trying to punish women for having rejected them in te past, when they were still "nice guys", and then bragging about how many women they've been with. The sex in itself seems unimportant and not even enjoyable?
@@ninawth wow thats an amazing perspective, honestly! Didnt really look at it this way at all but it makes so much sense!
Its like they blame women for the fact that they themselves aren't actually attracted to them. At least that's what it sounds like, especially when they describe sex.
@@leitregjok2830 Weirdly enough, when they described sex, I kinda had to think about how I view sex myself - as someone who is asexual, I definitely think somewhat similar because sex just seems kinda unappealing and gross. Maybe some of them actually aren't attracted to women at all or are so angry at them that they can't feel the sexual attration anymore. Kinda like an asexual person, just with a really toxic view of relationships, sex, people who have sex, society,...
"I threw out all my legos when I became an adult."
Legos are awesome I will fight you
But the biggest betrayal is stepping on one
The only thing worse is how often this dumb joke gets made by unfunny people
“Women are no longer being trained to submit to a man; to serve a man. Women are being applauded and encouraged to look like fat, outer space cyborgs.”
Translation: “Women aren’t listening to men anymore and instead are choosing to be happy, not worry about weight gain, and are embracing a cyberpunk aesthetic…
… and I guess what I’m saying is that iM MAD THAT IM JUST FINDING OUT THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION THE WHOLE TIME AND IM READY TO MAKE IT EVERYONES PROBLEM THAT NO ONE TOLD ME.”
Roosh really fell off the deep end around 2015-16. I used to read his older books and forum posts, but left it after his websites and his messages became submerged into the alt right and conspiracy garbage.
One time I saw I guy tell people that it’s better for men to get dating advice from other men rather than women by saying, “Would you rather ask a fish how to catch fish, or would you rather ask a successful fisherman?” Implying that men chasing women is like a fishermen trying to murder a fish. 🤨
I love that analogy because if you had the power to talk to fish, then it literally would be better to ask them instead of fishermen.
@@peterprime2140 No, I think he was trying to say that fish wouldn’t tell you how to catch them because they don’t want to be murdered. However, it’s still a terrible analogy, because it implies women would never tell you how to “pick them up” cuz they don’t want to be “picked up” in the first place. Which raises the point: if women don’t even like being “picked up”, then wouldn’t it be disrespectful to try to pick up women?
I'm going to get a lot of hate for saying this, but... I'm a woman and I think Roosh does understand true female needs and wants. Whenever I see him, that face, that body, I strip off my top and my bra because right then, I DO feel a deep desire -- that is, a deep desire to fucking vomit and I don't wanna ruin my clothes when it happens.
reckonerwheel reading this, I expected genuine support, but got a good laugh.
Liked the description. A bit erotic with the bra removal. Quality writing
Almost got me there.
you had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Nice one, had me going haha.
reckonerwheel not bad
Pick up artistry?
More like "from marginal virgin to sexual offender... still virgin"
There, I fixed the title
LOL they should clarity that their "pick up artistry" only works on imaginary girls...
like their exes ;)
Just wanted to note that his guest speaker tried to use child porn that he illegally downloaded to defame Gamergate of all things.
Source: lolcow.wiki/wiki/Dan_Olson#8chan_.22Sting.22_Operation
References at bottom of page.
You're an idiot
streeterville773
Literally not an argument
Well, it is an argument, consisting entirely of a single axiomatic statement about something not at hand. But it could be "an argument". Just the worst argument possible.
19:49
Mathematically speaking, dragging my tongue across a woman’s nether regions (per her request) always ups their respect for me by at least 80,000,000%.
I'm a virgin, but based on simulative experiences, I can attest to this fact.
Disgusting,It is a shame what men have become, now we are supposed to humiliate ourselves and do submissive acts during sex which is the kingdom of man,You have to approach her, pay for her, give her every wish, be successful, charismatic, have a good social network, defend her, etc., all of this so that when the moment arrives and the dog finally has sex, you have to walk like a dog running your tongue over his disgusting and smelly fluids, it's really infuriating 😡😡😡😡😡
what's scary about this phenomenon is that as sex/pleasure doesn't even matter, it's really all about power and control over women, i.e. r*pe/r*pe culture
I also loved how when he said “they are perceived as superior to straight...men” he clearly meant to say “straight white men” but noticed there were different races in the audience so pivoted mid-sentence.
Ethan Latinum Nice catch. At first, I thought that it was merely his poor speech skills (Roosh stutters *a lot*, how he can seem as confident or “alpha” to his followers is just baffling to me).
Woah! Actually, yeah.
Of course he did, you think I didn't notice that? Like I'm some kind of stupid niiii--rly deaf… person?
15:03
It's fun to laugh at these people and all, but we need to remember that they're actually rapists in the making. I'm a reasonably strong straight man, and the things that these guys were saying made *ME* want to grab pepper spray. Guys, if you know someone like this, remember that viewing women as property is a very small step away from treating them like property. Don't let this shit go unchallenged.
It's nice to see some men are starting to point this out to other guys! Thank you!
I’m a gay man and I feel bad that so many men think of women as pleasure objects. I think of men as people to form natural relationships with, not as tools to make me feel good, why can straight people do the same?
Whutup: The problem is that if we frame it this way, we are a) giving the manosphere way more power than it deserves and b) ignoring the fact that a lot of people trying this are innocent dudes caught up in a fucked up culture. Mocking them, especially with HBomberguy's relatively congenial tone, may work better in many cases.
@@OzCroc A gay man can emotionally relate much easier with other gay men. Not to mention that gay men both pretty much share the same amount of promiscuity, making it easier for them to stay sexually satisfied. For a heterosexual dude, the extra challenge and competition in getting a girlfriend often makes women seem more like trophies you have to work for.
Tony Gabashvili Unfortunately that is true. I just don’t agree with objectification and such.
I heard someone say that "Pickup Artists and Trash-Men should have their names switched."
As a Calgarian, I am not at all shocked that the Calgary chapter of "pick-up artists" would be little bitches about the cold 😂
I guess $10 million dollars wasn’t enough for them to afford to move somewhere decent, then.
"anything a woman or a gay person wants, it's theirs."
Can Roosh explain how I, as a gay woman, am still single then?
MagicEve you are basically the anti christ in their eyes
MagicEve Sure it's easily explainable. You're not a woman... or a gay person... You're both.
You're a gay woman. Which means that you're basically in the same position as a straight male.
MagicEve No. Because he seems to be incapable of properly explaining anything.
Not Alpha Enough
@@Fluxquark Your comment gave me the giggles. 😂👍🏿
"I threw out all my legos when I became an adult"
Honestly, that's just sad. Who throws away legos?
Also, fun fact: serial rapists tend to view sex not as a pleasurable thing, but an expression of power.
Yes, shooo sad - don’t throw them away! 😭
So just like the golden one described?
VERY CONCERNING FACT I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND THANK YOU
@@nenmaster5218 cool
Not to mention, serial rapists want you to buy their books on how to rape people.
So here, many years later, I finally notice yet another fucking weird contradiction with Roosh V's logic. In the first excerpt of this video, it's stated that you shouldn't tell the girl you like that you actually like them, never praise them or compliment them. But then later on he states that not telling the girls you like that you like them is 'a serious problem beta males deal with'.
So in conclusion... Roosh V accidently admits that him and his method is by and for beta males...
I wonder how he expect things to lead anywhere, without ever telling the girl he is into her. Even if she did really like him nothing would happen because she doesn't know AND they clearly don't want a girl with enough self-esteem to possibly ask them out. But I dont think there are very high chances of a woman being genuinely into these type of guys
I love how the dude has a whole villain origin story, even his own narration makes it sound like an anime monologue
14:46
"Women are no longer trained to submit to a man to serve a man"
Low whisper: "T H E H O R R O R"
*eyes close dramatically slowly*
"It's a cook book! IT'S A COOKBOOK!"
Rule of thumb: Never be with a guy who won't eat you out. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
At least don't be with a guy who expects head from you, but won't even _consider_ doing something for you that he doesn't directly get pleasure from.
I actually knew a girl who hated being eaten out. I found it surprising, but I suppose it's not for everyone. Still, doesn't change the sentiment.
You might say it's a... rule of tongue.
I'll see myself out.
Inikadowa 😂lmao
Also, never date a girl who won’t peg your boipussi
"Since sex is supposed to be fun, don't take it too seriously by questioning whether you're doing things right."
Based.
"Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own."
Oh.
thief
Dane here. BANG Denmark is hilarious, because he liked the look of the (not explicitly, but eh, let's go with Aryan) Danish girls, but hated that they were so independent and indifferent to his displays of prestige, that him trying to appease their tastes made him feel emasculated. He actually had to listen, had to give them space, and had to not bulldoze their lives to date. And he felt that made him less of a man.
Personally, as a dude in Denmark, I prefer my partners being able to handle their own lives (ie, being raised to not being supposed to be dependent on men, and not being subservient to them), and I like that I have part of the purpose in our home. I like dating people. I don't like dating property.
Like, I'm bad at doing the dishes, but I'm goddamned supposed to. It's supposed to be OUR house. Not a life where a partner happens to manage my comfort when I'm done working. And I don't like women being dependent on me. Regardless of the economic freedom it gives the ones I should live with, like even if I were to be selfish, I like that people I date have their own stuff going on. It breathes life into mine when I hear how their day went.
I say this with 100% honesty. Feminism saved me from being an insecure, emotionally immature man child.
How? I legitimately want to know.
@@BobBob-yr4qo Because without it you get insecure douche bags
@@BobBob-yr4qo It helped me to understand myself, my behavior and my actual attitude towards women and other men. It opened up so much, it really changed my life in a very positive way and most importantly helped me be better towards women and the world in general.
Same here, accept it turned me into an insecure emotionally immature woman child lmao
@@anonymousmisnomer5443 you mustve delved into "that side" of feminism
18:13 This is emotional abuse, not love.
Anna Olson Everything these guys are telling other guys to do is horrible in at least one way. I'd never be seen as prey to these people and it's still disturbing.
No, you don't understand. Gaslighting is the only way to show that you're a real alpha male who deserves sex you don't even want. How can you expect to keep the attention of a woman you don't respect if she's capable of thinking clearly? I'M RATIONAL!
On the plus side, every ex these guys and their supporters have is one more woman who got the fuck away from this with their self esteem and confidence intact.
That is *literally* how my emotionally abusive father treated me. Like, 100%, no bullshit. I assume he wasn't trying to fuck me, but twisted as he was, WHO KNOWS
The most frightening thing is that even if you know the signs of emotional abuse, you can still find yourself getting roped into an unhealthy relationship. Perhaps not by these guys, but some men are much more subtle than this.
It's disturbing how warped and miserable these men's thoughts have become. They've somehow built a philosophy of self-victimization out of their experiences of rejection while also othering women to a terrifying degree. They're so blinded by their resentment/lack of empathy that they'll unironically write these blatantly hateful things while still convinced they're in the right.
Throughout this I heard Jordan Peterson crying in the background that the number of men in relationships has plummeted since women were given options.
Not too long ago men like these would be married to a woman whose opinion were violently disregarded.
We are so moving in the right direction.
"The Calgary Chapter of Return of Kings has a 100% SJW saturation rate." is my favourite sentence in this entire half hour video
That whole Dan Olsen bit was gold.
This was how i discovered Dan’s channel!
@@loturzelrestaurant i discovered him just last week! Love his stuff
"Women are no longer trained to submit to a man, to serve a man...."
Not sure if he's a time-traveler from the biblical times or a dog-trainer attempting to apply his expertise to his own species.
That's how he gets all the bitches.
Yes.
Also, Misc Mer: Underrated comment! XD
I’m a professional dog trainer. We respect the dogs more this this guy respects women.
@@miscmer8030 - literal bitches tho, wont work on women lmao
Training a dog requires empathy and respect. So... The first one.
not to be the "homophobic and bigoted people are marginalized people in disguise" person, but it really does sound to me that the main purpose of pick-up artistry, if not companionship or sex, is approval from the community, aka other men. I don't think it's in a way that's specifically queer though, I think that these people genuinely despise other women so much that they've resorted to creating an echo chamber with other men like them.
In a way I think of it as a natural consequence of phrasing being single or a virgin as an insult to men. I understand the idea behind the insult -- it's basically meant to point out that someone has some underlying character flaws driving people away -- but by telling people they're losers because they're single instead of taking the time the understand and spell out specifics (you don't take responsibility for your own actions, you have total disregard for others' wellbeing, you're an arrogant intolerable douche . . . et cetera, you get the idea), it moves the goalpost for being a good, successful person that society accepts away from being self-aware and working on yourself, and towards "make women act this certain way towards me." With, I fear, a dangerous edge of making men feel like they're being deprived of something they feel they should have, of their place within humanity, whenever a woman turns them down.
Admittedly I think sometimes it can be a really solid comeback to call someone out for maidenless behavior, especially when they're publicly humiliating someone by openly sexualizing them -- I think it takes the blame off of an intended victim and puts the onus on the creep where it belongs -- but as a general critique of someone's character . . . I really can't help but see it as counterproductive and tremendously harmful.
Tbh the way a lot of these men talk about sex makes me think they're somewhere in the asexual spectrum but probably think being asexual is a 'feminine' thing, or that would mean being part of the LGBTQIA+ community and they're too insecure in their own masculinity to associate with queer men.
Is it just me or is H.Bomber Guy the kind of person who's bat$h|t crazy but also incredibly sane, Comedic and charming? I kinda want him to play the underdog in a movie.
These books are basically “Abusive Relationships 101”
I just ruined the 666
Right, emotional abuse guidebook
You've actually read them?
@@bashkillszombies I’ve read “why does he do that inside the kinds of angry and abusive men”
Nah, ya gotta get one first, so no worries there
>Treat them mean and keep them keen.
>Why don't girls like me?!
Sad reacts only guys...
*surprised Pikachu face *
2:45
The “sex is supposed to be fun, don’t overthink it” (paraphrase, I know) is actually really on-target until it concludes with “don’t worry about her pleasure”.
Wtf?
Definitely don’t overthink things and don’t take it “too seriously”, but definitely pay attention to what your partner is liking or not liking. Be playful. Communicate. Have fun for fuck’s sake!
With all the Andrew tate shit that happened throughout the last year, it is amazing how hbomb was ahead of the curve in seeing this movement's rise
"1. Constantly make her feel inadequate. You should rarely give her unqualified praise. Every time she does something for you, find out what she did wrong and remind her of it. If you can't find any problems, make some up."
Today I learned that not only am I apparently a girl, but my own psyche is using pickup artistry on me.
It's been sixth months-has it worked?
@@TheNinja94a not great, I think I might be catfishing me
@@Paralellex hey I wish you the best. Low self esteem and overcritical thinking are really tough and can wear away at you. I dont really know what to tell you since I dont know you, but youre okay the way you are and the things you do are more than good enough! Give yourself a break ;)
And I didn't realise my Biology teacher tried to hit on me...
your psyche needs to read The Truth: An Uncomfortable Book About Relationships
"Anything that a woman or a gay person wants is theirs." Okay, but even if this were true, who is it that's giving women anything they want? Are women taking those things from men at gunpoint or something? If you're not happy about women getting things (for whatever strange reason) just stop giving things to them. Don't blame the women for it.
This line really stuck with me because I've been seeing a lot of whiny little boys complaining about and slut shaming "Only Fans girls" and it completely baffles me how they don't get how complicit men are in that. Hearing them talk you'd think that women film themselves naked and then money rains down on them from the sky. Like, let's all be clear about this: Only Fans doesn't exist as a platform for pornography because women are sluts, it exists because men are willing to pay for porn. I just find it very suspicious that someone can be so against the existence of pornography and yet focus all of their ire on the women who produce it, ignoring the men who create the market for it in the first place. It's almost like their real problem is with women and not with pornography...
What do you mean? Like what problem would they have with women?
I mean, Matt forney really looks like a guy who would be in the news for something bad
How to talk to women:
1. there is a woman
2. talk to her
3. DO NOT TOUCH HER YOU DON'T KNOW HER
4. and relax
Archie Thomas explain step three please. I have trouble with that.
Step 2 is hard for them too.
Ok wait but what if they’re like...reaaalllyyy hot
I can touch them if they’re hot tho right?
Archie Thomas Except that some of them want to be touched. Some of them respond positively to dominant male behaviour.
The truth lies somewhere between the soyboy and alpha male narrative.
That story in the intro of Bang is so sad because that girl probably really liked him as a friend and all the guy could see was a sex object.
franinconverse i actually doubt very much whether a man can be "just friends" with a woman .. maybe woman can do that
It's weird. I remember this home party with some exchange students. There was a Belgian guy who had been talking with a French girl all evening. She eventually had too much to drink and had to go to bed, which was convenient as the party was at her place. The Belgian guy was confused. He didn't know whether he should have gone with her. More than that, he was feeling a bit guilty for not having done that. I asked him why that was, and he became even more confused, because he didn't know. We talked about how men are instilled with this idea that we should pursue sex whenever the opportunity arises (regardless of whether the other person is in a position to make that choice or not, I suppose, it was kind of implied in the conversation but never explicitly stated). We concluded that it was best that he had not gone with her, and he seemed like he had some thinking to do.
We, as a society, should not be bringing up boys this way. This is why conversations about consent are very, very important. This is why we need to have serious talks about what masculinity means.
Ps. We can be friends with women. I'm good friends with my ex, and plenty of other women. If sex is the only reason I'm interested in a person, either she isn't very interesting, or I'm completely ignoring everything that makes her interesting as a living, breathing human being. I think we've been taught that gender roles (not genitalia, but how we're expected to behave) are more important and imperative than they actually are. That's how I see it, anyways. It was taught to me, and I taught myself out of it.
GuerillaBunny its possible to keep the relationship "friendly" .. but maybe the sexual dynamics between males and females will come into it one way or other ( i am no psychologists btw ) .. this doesnt mean every man always wanting to bang every woman they see in front of him
you are talking about social norms and raising boys etc etc ... how about our basic biological impulses and our sexual psychology ?
i dont live in the western world so i cant really tell much about it .. but here in my country ( south asia ) boys and girls are still raised with a traditional view like "no sex before marriage" ... ofcourse not everyone care about it because some young teens are already BANGING lol ... the society is getting westernized and more and more are having premarital sex now
i've seen when someome says men and women cant really be just friends .. they take it too literally and think some pervert is talking
+ Vol de Mort
"Most men just have ulterior motives"
What are you talking about? Wanting to have sex with the other person?
Ulterior motives have nothing to do with question of whether man can be just friends with women. It may be a man will have no ulterior motives AND will feel attracted enough to any woman he gets close to that he can't be >just< friends with her.
honestly it seems like at least half of these people could be asexual, just in the worst way possible.
like, they say “oh, sex isn’t fun, it’s not pleasurable, etc.” and i’m just thinking “buddy, are you sure you ain’t missing something?”
having sex repulsion while being an alt righty who scoffs at any other identity than straight is probably a nightmare
@@LA-be8fu yeah, probably
@@LA-be8fu And the weirdest thing is, rejecting sex is seen as virtuous by some groups, and okay by a decent amount of others, yet being asexual as way too often seen as "ew, a weirdo"
Tbh, I feel like it comes less out of an innate dislike of intimacy and more out of a ruthless hatred of women.
I think it’s a mix of a few demographics, like, some of these guys are definitely either ace or not attracted to women, but I do think some of them are cishet, but they’re neurodivergent and struggle with the fact that people are inherently unpredictable, and the PUA shit systematizes interactions with women so that they they can pretend they can control the uncontrollable, and then I think there’s a contingent of just straight-up violent misogynists driving the ship.
2:35 "porn is my teacher" is a phrase i didnot expect to be presented so confidently and authoritatively.
"The alpha male lives in his own reality" Well he's not wrong...
Sounds like narcissism
"Since sex is supposed to be fun, don't take it too seriously by questioning whether you are doing things right."
-Hey, that's actually not bad advice! Figuring out what you and your partner both like and listening to them when they tell you how you should do things in bed is far more productive than worrying about whether you're doing good or not.
"Worrying about her pleasure sacrifices your own."
*-Oh no...*
Same. Fucking same.
bojler eladó
@Gaius Octavius Buddy, buddy, "all women" or "all men" is something you should just never say. Also, you either never had sex with a real woman, or... no actually that's it, I don't think you've had sex with a real woman if you truly believe what you said
I had the exact same reaction.
Sex is mutual
Say it with me
*sex is mutual*
Just using someone as a toy just for yourself is a really dick move, unless that's what they happen to be into.
I will never understand people who think sex is this important
They think it will fill the empty void in them where decency is supposed to be.
The story about the girl from his study group really hit home for me. It made it so real to me, the sadness she must have felt, realizing her friend would do so much just to hurt her, and worse, that he never thought of her as a friend to begin with. It's something I've dealt with and just makes the harm this stuff causes feel so visceral.
16:57 My national pride has never been greater than when reading the words "Why it's almost impossible to get along with a Danish woman if you're an alpha male"
W for danish women
Watch your Borders, the asexual Community is ready to invade silently at any moment
Maybe the danish aren’t so bad after all…
@@insectoid_creature Woah woah woah lets not get TOO crazy there buddy
Congratulations to every danish woman. You saw through this sad self defeating bullshit
Roosh being a biochem major is proof that STEM doesn't mean you're smart
As a STEM major, we don't want him
@@adrienneczerni6516 Agreed (though I'm not sure you'd find any major who *would* want him...)
On top of that, he's done nothing with it and lives with his mom while blogging his nonsense. His latest schtick is now "Puritanical Judeophobic Fundie Orthodox Christian Aesthetic Guy".
I know plenty of good STEM people. I learned that over time in offhanded moments.
I know of a misogynistic asshole who is STEM when I learned that because their profile on a website used to brag that they had a massive income from a STEM baccalaureate degree. They bought stuff and showed it off while growing about how super smart they were, when they were almost a parodical cartoon of a sociopathic antagonist in a bad "Silence of the Lambs" Movie, superiority complex very much front and center. They're an e-begger now, having turned the people they sucked into their personality cult into cash sources while producing increasingly less as time goes on.
@Poodl Puff it's hard for me :(
I wonder if all of these guys read Onision’s books, and found them “high literature.”
“Every time she does something for you, find out what she did wrong and remind her of it. If you can’t find any problems, just make something up”
That’s literally just the description of an abusive relationship. That’s literally what victims of abuse will say about their partners in therapy
"Be prepared for disappointment." Coincidentally that's my go to pick up line.
Ya da reel pleya
Bet you get laid all the time with that 😁
Panties are dropping to the floor as we speak as that comment is being read.
Oh Charlie, take me now!