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  • @Knicks176
    @Knicks176 4 месяца назад +436

    Bo really grinded in the off season to learn English just for his support to go afk and /muteall

    • @SB-zg5ch
      @SB-zg5ch 4 месяца назад +15

      Targamas his always mute on every team. If you listen to g2 voice comms from his time there he never said a word. hes trash

    • @clappedbyben5438
      @clappedbyben5438 4 месяца назад +3

      @@SB-zg5ch i feel like his micro isnt bad being mute just makes it impossible for him to suceed in pro.

    • @SB-zg5ch
      @SB-zg5ch 4 месяца назад +4

      @@clappedbyben5438 ya it just looks like he doesn’t want to be there. I think the only reason he even has a team is because g2 carried him to a tittle once

  • @Jifaru
    @Jifaru 4 месяца назад +559

    It's insane how much Bo has practiced his English to get to this level. The guy grinds on the rift and off

  • @badda1107
    @badda1107 4 месяца назад +842

    How the fck is bo more understandable than saken

    • @olliminati
      @olliminati 4 месяца назад

      Isn't it kind of a stereotype that French people don't want to learn other languages? In contrast, in China you are expected to excel, it's almost like: "How dare you live in Europe and don't at least somewhat speak two of the languages there? Are you trying to shame us?!"

    • @lulgrim
      @lulgrim 4 месяца назад

      Because shaken is fr*nch

    • @wilkinlow
      @wilkinlow 4 месяца назад +125

      I have no idea what the French are speaking

    • @tango1901
      @tango1901 4 месяца назад

      just french people not giving a fuck about pronouncing words correctly

    • @twostepsfromyee2099
      @twostepsfromyee2099 4 месяца назад +85

      @@wilkinlow yeah why is saken even mumbling french in the middle of some plays??

  • @hongbbl
    @hongbbl 4 месяца назад +1114

    "Milio tank Milio tank", "ok I'll tank", *targamas proceeds to walk into melee range of enemy adc without autoing

    • @wawan3961
      @wawan3961 4 месяца назад +9

      Dude ok targa has a lot of issues, but here Bo just goes in too early. Stop blaming him for everything

    • @rqv8228
      @rqv8228 4 месяца назад

      i mean targa should be tanking its a fast play, legit no reason to wait or play slow@@wawan3961

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 4 месяца назад +331

      @@wawan3961what? Watch the play again targ had plenty of time to tank.

    • @RealKelxo
      @RealKelxo 4 месяца назад +183

      @@wawan3961 did you watch the clip? I do agree Targamas gets shit on a bit too hard in general but you can't be serious on this one. At the latest you auto when Bo is LITERALLY CHARGING HIS Q WAITING FOR HIM TO TAKE AGGRO. Come on.

    • @calebgardner2687
      @calebgardner2687 4 месяца назад +62

      Yeah that was rough to watch, definitely made me lose faith in targamas seeing that

  • @thesx1131
    @thesx1131 4 месяца назад +246

    The bar is low when the adc has to ask his team to ward in the middle of a skirmish

  • @raymondandsweetheart7150
    @raymondandsweetheart7150 4 месяца назад +732

    I would like to apologize to Bo. It was clearly cabo and Targa fault.

    • @LegendJoe3063
      @LegendJoe3063 4 месяца назад +48

      And thats why u shouldn't jump to judge right away. Now u see poor BO is stuck with 4 bot players.

    • @HappyroosterYT
      @HappyroosterYT 4 месяца назад +137

      @@LegendJoe3063 Upset is fine. Hard to do anything playing with Targamas to be honest.

    • @clarrus_
      @clarrus_ 4 месяца назад

      ofc Bo is gonna be the scapegoat. the frenchies wont admit that their OG players are dogshit.

    • @Sofield119
      @Sofield119 4 месяца назад +1

      I agree Targa did mistakes, but on what play in this video are you blaming Cabo ? (not being sarcastic, real question)

    • @raymondandsweetheart7150
      @raymondandsweetheart7150 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Sofield119 I'm talking game 1 on gragas. Akali was at 10% hp and didn't e him w or q. Upset goes in for the kill but dies. There a few more like jax. Malphite was really bad. Like the worst so far.

  • @glittery8862
    @glittery8862 4 месяца назад +589

    i feel like trymbi upset would actually make for such a banger botlane. trymbi is not just good but legit the perfect support to bring in here, he can take the shotcalling burden off upset & work with bo considering he played with malrang and did rly well. like please who at kcorp do we need to call.

    • @gagers78
      @gagers78 4 месяца назад +27

      I agree, I think he would provide the guidance they need

    • @quistusquist542
      @quistusquist542 4 месяца назад +29

      We need Trymbi to replace Targa

    • @yz8800
      @yz8800 4 месяца назад +3

      I think you’re onto something.

    • @johnkirk1772
      @johnkirk1772 4 месяца назад +3

      @@quistusquist542 do you? and then replace Cabo in top and Saken in mid? and then KC can win and is like every other LEC team defined solely by the question of success rather than nationality or differentiation
      in many sports teams who have never won a title have a lot of fans or orgs won a title decades ago, went down two leagues and retained their fans..e-sports orgs have never understood that winning isn't the only way to get fandom...if you define yourself by success, your fans will too..if you define yourself through the culture, your fans do too..
      KC would likely lose more fans and brand value by winning with the wrong roster than losing with the right one

    • @josecastillo-lj7no
      @josecastillo-lj7no 4 месяца назад +10

      French fans are not gonna like it lmao. But fr any shotcalling support would be better since your jg is aggressive and needs follow up

  • @rcube0171
    @rcube0171 4 месяца назад +255

    Nah man, Upset telling Neeko to recall. That is just babysitting on a whole other level.

    • @LegendJoe3063
      @LegendJoe3063 4 месяца назад

      😂😂 exactly.. Upshit is washed as Foook.

    • @Milxno
      @Milxno 4 месяца назад +33

      maybe if Saken wasn't a liability he didn't need babysitting

    • @abouttime2569
      @abouttime2569 4 месяца назад +5

      Micromanaging isn't a good sign. However, micromanaging usually happens when you can't do your job properly and you need to be told what to do.

    • @tanggsyy4676
      @tanggsyy4676 4 месяца назад +2

      it was a good call idk only issue is if neeko has ego

    • @mongolitosking9739
      @mongolitosking9739 4 месяца назад

      ​@@abouttime2569 It can be good when the guy micromanaging is Faker because this guy is an AI computer. But when you're not literally the most gifted player, it is just waste of time and energy

  • @oskargorka3332
    @oskargorka3332 4 месяца назад +383

    Bein a shotcaller as an AD has to be the most dumb and insane to get in your team imo. Feels bad for him.

    • @naiku.
      @naiku. 4 месяца назад +6

      carzzy is shotcaller and is top 2 ad in europe upset best adc in europe and is shotcalling?

    • @oskargorka3332
      @oskargorka3332 4 месяца назад +60

      @@naiku. My brother this are exceptions. And I would want to perform them internationaly not just in LEC, and I do not think that someone as gifted as JKL or Guma are the main shotcallers of their teams. (Speakin just about their micro). My point it is much better to let your AD perform and focus on micro imo, than being a main shotcaller.

    • @HaPham-jn7jk
      @HaPham-jn7jk 4 месяца назад +19

      @@naiku.top 2 on planet mars?

    • @UnityFog
      @UnityFog 4 месяца назад +4

      @@naiku.top what? Upset is good on some champs, hes kda player. Carzzy second? What are you on xDDDD

    • @janthony5386
      @janthony5386 4 месяца назад +7

      @@oskargorka3332 Yeah, it's already stressful trying to not get fisted as an ADC but you'd have to worry about the rest of your team as a shot caller.

  • @bobon222
    @bobon222 4 месяца назад +450

    I think targamas should work on his communication. Its obvious that on top lck and lpl teams that the support should be vocal and makes calls with the jungler. Its tough to play when a support doesn't help with calls and macro.

    • @jacob2808
      @jacob2808 4 месяца назад +88

      Top LEC teams have a support that makes calls with the jungler, targ is a massive liability

    • @Diego-dt9yf
      @Diego-dt9yf 4 месяца назад +37

      He should unironically look to change roles, it's okay if he's more quiet or not that vocal, but he shouldn't be playing the role that requires you to be the most vocal in a team. Just play top or Adc if you don't talk that much

    • @Riptide09
      @Riptide09 4 месяца назад +2

      I like the idea of shotcalling but regardless, in pro level all players should subconciously know their role in the team comp and teamfight, it's better when they are the one who make the calls but in this case I would say Bo is more skillful and Upset is more veteran beside cabo ofc so they are the one who make the calls, what they need to improve more is not just merely ingame communication but rather their teamwork as a whole, their trust,understanding and boundaries between each other, it seems like this team doesn't have connection what so ever.

    • @cielararagi3195
      @cielararagi3195 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Diego-dt9yf The guy was playing support in G2 and winning LEC with them. I don't think role change is the problem. The problem is likely either personnal, or he simply struggles to fit in with his team.

    • @Riptide09
      @Riptide09 4 месяца назад +2

      I play ADC and I can assure you when watching pro play 60% of the time I always know what to expect from my team and enemies, how is my position or how I can deal damage, what to avoid in teamfight, the rotation etc, the other 40% is the one that makes succesful team different with other and yes that is team work and understanding eachother, a slight second of decision or a chance could make a big difference to the game, take 2022 DRX or T1 when they are down lots of gold for example

  • @doloran-
    @doloran- 4 месяца назад +189

    "can milio tank first?" - Bo
    "Yeah yeah" - targamas
    *Targamas proceeds to walk into mele range without attacking*
    "BO IS SO BAD" - KC fans

    • @yungclout9413
      @yungclout9413 4 месяца назад +16

      And he steals the kill XD

    • @SereneMars
      @SereneMars 4 месяца назад +6

      Makes sense for Milio to tank since she is ranged and Bo is melee and bro took the kill anyway

    • @LegendJoe3063
      @LegendJoe3063 4 месяца назад

      ​​​@@SereneMarsblud did understood. 😂
      Ofc milio can tank but also he can attack too but targa just walk into enemy's rabge without attacking and died.

  • @Azrael_Xx_
    @Azrael_Xx_ 4 месяца назад +221

    The funniest thing to me is that the worst players on this team are the original KC players. xDDD

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 4 месяца назад

      And there's still an army of retards yapping "they're only in this roster because they're French" when these guys were dominating everything prior to entering LEC.

    • @wilkinlow
      @wilkinlow 4 месяца назад +38

      They forgot this is LEC not LFL.😂 they are simply not good enough.

    • @wedmunds
      @wedmunds 4 месяца назад +14

      What do you know, the LEC-tier players are (trying to) carrying the LFL players

    • @lukelofe2398
      @lukelofe2398 4 месяца назад +2

      ofc, LEC is like the champions league in europe, while LFL is just french league.

  • @justinbalderama6219
    @justinbalderama6219 4 месяца назад +21

    Bo: It's fine, it's fine. (crying inside)

  • @drakodragon8389
    @drakodragon8389 4 месяца назад +372

    Kinda tuff for Bo/Upset, don't know if Cabo/Saken aren't rly making calls or talking much because of inexperience or stage jitters but it's just unfortunate. Don't even need to speak on Targ, can't believe he gets to play in the LEC LOL

    • @thetiltedtomato7016
      @thetiltedtomato7016 4 месяца назад +6

      Its sad that cabo and targa are in lec for more than a year

    • @F4LCoN13
      @F4LCoN13 4 месяца назад +109

      It's hard to say inexperience for Cabo. He is 26 years old and has been playing in EU LCS since season 4.

    • @chipiegg1466
      @chipiegg1466 4 месяца назад

      true but tbh super low amount of calls for a toplaner is somewhat excusable, not for mid or support....@@F4LCoN13

    • @supremeleaderfokou5693
      @supremeleaderfokou5693 4 месяца назад +26

      @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot first they went 10th once second bo got 1st in winter regular and made semi finals in spring with upset. The kc 2023 players just are not ready for lec. cabochard is afk every game, shaken missed more ults than he landed and targa is more dangerous with ingage sup for his team so much that yamato had to give him lulu on ingage sup meta.

    • @arturoflash
      @arturoflash 4 месяца назад +6

      Cabo and Saken are like the last people you can talk about have inexperience or stage jitters. Cabo has gone to worlds and Saken has had multiple stints in the EU LCS. Granted VIT was trash fire but experience is still experience and he got 4 EMEA masters titles and 5 finals

  • @mValerianW
    @mValerianW 4 месяца назад +84

    Bro Targamas has to literally not do anything and he still fails at that. He only has to show up and let Upset Micro him. He still can't. How insane is Upset though. Also imagine Trymbi would join this team..

  • @Derperfier
    @Derperfier 4 месяца назад +35

    5:15 this singular play exemplifies all of KC’s problems, Bo and Upset very clearly want to dive bot, yet Targamas doesn’t, both Bo and Upset agree that Targamas should tank, Bo wait’s as long as possible on Vi Q for Milio to auto and Targamas just doesn’t auto. Bo and Upset are trying to win, Targamas just for some reason doesn’t want to go along with their plays or something? That and useless top (not really an issue) and un-proactive mid (again, could’ve changed some outcomes but still nowhere near as big of an issue as a support who does not talk at all. I wish Bo and Upset the best of luck that they can change Targamas into a talker or for a new sup, since realistically bot lane wins games anyway and KC can win with an identity with a jgl sup partnership which currently doesn’t exist (it’s basically a jgl adc partnership which doesn’t make sense).

  • @yungclout9413
    @yungclout9413 4 месяца назад +148

    not a big upset fan but fucking hell hes actually just managing two people on bot

  • @EibonAQT
    @EibonAQT 4 месяца назад +27

    4:03 When I was watching this moment live, I wondered why Bo is so low when he has Nami on his team. Targ fucking W'd Saken who wasn't tanking instead of the solo Jax frontline.

  • @choiyoungsu7249
    @choiyoungsu7249 4 месяца назад +26

    Jeez. I feel so bad for BO now that I've heard comms.

  • @benreichert0
    @benreichert0 4 месяца назад +170

    Cabo and Targamas need to go ASAP. Saken has shown enough that he MIGHT be worth keeping for now, but eh. On the plus side, Bo's english is better than I expected, I guess he just doesn't get many chances to show it on broadcast since they never win lol

  • @SwayNoir
    @SwayNoir 4 месяца назад +113

    Bo and Upset are worth keeping, the rest are just not LEC level. Targamas holy, hes just utter trash. Its amazing the amount of people in disbelief that hes in LEC. Hes completely hard carried.

    • @Azg105
      @Azg105 4 месяца назад +49

      Caps jankos winning a title with targamas is more impressive than winning msi

    • @smokinold4360
      @smokinold4360 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Azg105 Nah, he was pretty good back then because he didn't need to communicate. Topside carried with macro and communication.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 месяца назад +6

      @@smokinold4360 his issues were just hidden because he didn't need to lane and his teammates spoke for 3 peoples' worth, going to Excel it's rather obvious he was a massive liability

    • @zora1860
      @zora1860 4 месяца назад +2

      @@smokinold4360thats why they were shit international jankos caps bb couldnt carry everything

    • @andreypavlov5187
      @andreypavlov5187 4 месяца назад +1

      Keep in mind Romain clearly stated that they were keen on keeping Targa after 2022 but Hans wanted to explicitly play with Miky.
      Imagine that...
      I am sure G2 are thanking the gods that it happened the way it did.

  • @Providenza
    @Providenza 4 месяца назад +12

    The big thing this comms video shows is that when Bo isn't calling, he 100% commits to whatever is called. Upset says to go in, Bo goes in, Upset says dive, Bo comes for dive. No-one else on the team is doing this, Bo calls for them to go baron, they instead start fighting Xin at the red-buff. Bo calls for them to back off because of Akali flank 4v5, they instead stay and lose the game. He looks like he's inting, but the reality is that he's just committing to what's getting called or what he calls, while others do the opposite or hesitate. It's why the LPL is so different, there if someone calls something the rest follow without question. Really hope Bo gets some people to actually help him, him with Hily and Bwipo would have been unreal.

    • @octirius2819
      @octirius2819 4 месяца назад +1

      Finally found someone who noticed this: this team is not on the same page. Targamas doesn't even speak like 90% of the time. Additionally, all three laners are passive. Cabo's weaksiding, Saken plays not to lose and just does not have good mechanics, Upset doesn't play aggro (and honestly can't when he's laning with a no comms support). Realistically, you could put any jungler in there (yes, even prime Canyon or Peanut) and they still wouldn't win.

  • @henrikhillemyr4894
    @henrikhillemyr4894 4 месяца назад +82

    Bro they got xqc in the midlane with the pace he is speaking. cant discern a word sometimes lol, no wonder they got bad coms

  • @DALESPEER2
    @DALESPEER2 4 месяца назад +31

    saken talks very fast and has a very heavy accent. i think that affects team comms a lot. i dont usually struggle with LEC accents. wait is saken speaking french half the time?

  • @Alejandro-xk5ej
    @Alejandro-xk5ej 4 месяца назад +209

    Getting trymbi is such an obvious call. Its pretty criminal that he has to sit on analyst desk while fucking targamas is playing.

    • @MafeQo
      @MafeQo 4 месяца назад +30

      @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot it's still better than saying nothing the entire game

    • @EvillAnime
      @EvillAnime 4 месяца назад +45

      @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot "Ali Ali Ali" would be a 100x improvement over this

    • @Xzibitfreek
      @Xzibitfreek 4 месяца назад +8

      @@BognorQuesnel-pj7ot Trymbi got Fnatic to worlds btw

    • @TheSceptileen
      @TheSceptileen 4 месяца назад +21

      Like look at the players that are teamless, you can't tell me that replacing Cabo Saken and Targamas for Finn Abbedagge Trimby won't make this team much better

    • @lombre4453
      @lombre4453 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheSceptileen Cabo Saken and Targa are also playing because they stood with KC for them to reach LEC. Therefore KC let them a chance to show what they have in LEC for their debut. Weither they change them or not will depend on the result and what's best.

  • @lins_z2
    @lins_z2 4 месяца назад +38

    Targamas has been known for his communication issues since G2. It’s obvious that it hasn’t improve much if not at all. It is essential for a team that the support communicates and helps in macro, else the burden falls all on the jungler, which is reflected in game by how Bo looks despite of how hard he seems to be trying.

  • @ussshenzhou9027
    @ussshenzhou9027 4 месяца назад +160

    I've been saying only Bo and Upset perform on this team and all the KC npcs were out for my blood. It's obvious now. Cabo and especially Targamas are negative gaming, Saken is just not enough.

    • @Snootz86
      @Snootz86 4 месяца назад +10

      Yeah Upset has been bad for the past 2 games (terrible in fact) but prior to that he was good.. maybe Targmas rooting him in lane and losing half his hp killed him

    • @PeoplePleaser578
      @PeoplePleaser578 4 месяца назад +21

      @@Snootz86Problem is for Upset, you know he is just mentally cooked especially as a guy who doesn’t deal with losing that well, this must be fucking hell. This is worse than OG.

    • @pratikroy227
      @pratikroy227 4 месяца назад +7

      @@PeoplePleaser578 Upset is a top tier adc better than Hans by mile but if you have ever played as ADC you would know you can be Gumayusi Ruler Viper Uzi Deft Gala but if your support is Targa, Kaiser Doss you will become average at best. Support is far more crucial role than ADC because they sets it up for their ADC to deal dmg and get ahead in lane against better opposition. If Upset had Miky or Labrov as Support in his team he would have been unstoppable given his laners play as human and not AI.

    • @niclas.313
      @niclas.313 4 месяца назад +7

      @@pratikroy227 Wouldnt put Kaiser and Doss into the same category as Targamas tho. Kaiser is really good and seems to fit really well in Heretics.

    • @pratikroy227
      @pratikroy227 4 месяца назад +1

      @@niclas.313 Kaiser maybe not AS BAD as Targamas but he is average at best Doss is I feel better if we compare all 3 and he can improve.

  • @chrisd2536
    @chrisd2536 4 месяца назад +8

    Most of KC fans are blaming Upset and Bo for the losses just because they don't want to blame the "og" members of this team. This is ridiculous lol

  • @kallistei4869
    @kallistei4869 4 месяца назад +25

    I main support, im no expert and not high elo aswell. But why is that support not saying anything/doing shotcalls. I always thought that in order for my adc to do well i have to do the other little stuff for the team (remind objective spawn, watching for enemy summs etc) so that my adc can focus on teamfights/dealing damage. Why is he just listening is he like a rookie?

  • @pinkocean310
    @pinkocean310 4 месяца назад +121

    When an ADC has to shotcall, no wonder the team is fucked.

    • @rubenenriqueschmidt4364
      @rubenenriqueschmidt4364 4 месяца назад +12

      DL won several LCS being SC
      Uzi reached 2 worlds finals as SC
      Perkz won 2 LEC, 1 MSI and reached the world final being the SC of G2 2019

    • @arturoflash
      @arturoflash 4 месяца назад +40

      @@rubenenriqueschmidt4364 Perkz had Jankos in 2019. There is no way Perkz had every shotcalling duty on that team

    • @jsnE_ca
      @jsnE_ca 4 месяца назад +11

      same with DL he was never the main caller@@arturoflash

    • @asersingularity4229
      @asersingularity4229 4 месяца назад +11

      @@rubenenriqueschmidt4364 yeah lets bring up exceptional team examples when talking about this version of KC....exceptions don't prove the rule

    • @hehexd5317
      @hehexd5317 4 месяца назад

      weren't people saying that crownie was bds' main shotcaller? i also believe that hans calls the shots bott at g2

  • @Jolron14
    @Jolron14 4 месяца назад +91

    Honestly Upset and Bo are top tier players. If they keep them, and swap out the rest, the team can be top 2 in spring/summer. Get Nemesis, Trymbi and Finn or smth like that.

    • @toniyakovlev4403
      @toniyakovlev4403 4 месяца назад +25

      Nemesis only wants to play with Zeus, Oner, Guma and Keria

    • @cielararagi3195
      @cielararagi3195 4 месяца назад +2

      All of KC players have insane prior experience. Anyone saying they don't deserve to be here is completely clueless. I agree they are playing very poorly rn, but it's likely either a lack of chemistry, or personal issues, or both. These can be fixed over time without problem

    • @zora1860
      @zora1860 4 месяца назад +12

      @@toniyakovlev4403Neme is anyway blacklisted in lec

    • @nicklli166
      @nicklli166 4 месяца назад

      truer words have never been spoken

    • @Leogos281
      @Leogos281 4 месяца назад

      @@cielararagi3195 Im sorry what experience? You either perform or you don't, they are just bad, their issues cannot be resolved + they are all closer to retirement than rookies.
      Playing 1 year in LEC in the past doesn't make you good, Cabochard, bad lane, bad mechanics, bad macro, no communication = 0 potential and doesn't belong in LEC.
      Saken mute as well, bad laning, bad macro but shows some promise, can be bottom-mid tier at best.
      Targamas, absolute animal, the guy is just wintrading at this point, you should start watching some co-streams, people are destroying him, he is a fucking meme, they rewind his plays like 10 times just to point out how absolutely terrible he is and how much he is inting his team.
      Now some people are gonna mention Oscar, well Oscar was shit when he joined, yea if you only look on surface which is score wise, but if you look at the games his mistakes were just, good player fucking up Pro play things that can be taught, his champ pool was good, his mechanics were one of the better ones in recent time specially for top, 1v1 laning was good, macro and target prio also, he just had to sort his laning when jungler gets to play. Look what happened when that was resolved, he became a solid asset to his team.
      You cannot do this with Cabo and Targamas, with Saken maaaybe you can but like I said his peak is mid tier.
      These things are easy to see, good players are never bad in every aspect of the game and good players very quickly show how good they are, these guys just ain't it.
      Im not this team's hater or something, I was hyped for Kcorp but this is reality and those 3 need to go and I hope they go cuz I want this team to succeed.

  • @takumifujiwara300
    @takumifujiwara300 4 месяца назад +4

    this just proves the point that they have cannon minion mid, melee minion top, caster minion support.

  • @argar1000
    @argar1000 4 месяца назад +50

    Man it is so hard to understand anything in these comms, especially the french accents.

    • @TheDanzau
      @TheDanzau 4 месяца назад +1

      na u just low.

    • @dkane2040
      @dkane2040 4 месяца назад

      @@TheDanzau nah the french are just kinda retarded

    • @madamada2936
      @madamada2936 4 месяца назад +3

      nah
      @@TheDanzau

    • @TimberlyPL
      @TimberlyPL 4 месяца назад

      yep, how can you play with fr*nch people on your team i dont understand

  • @skepy889
    @skepy889 4 месяца назад +7

    I feel bad for BO, as a guy who speaks english for like 10 years now, i really cant understand what is saken and cabo saying because of the thicc french accent, imagine how hard is it for Bo to understand them when he speaks english for like a 1,5 years now.

  • @nope7200
    @nope7200 4 месяца назад +12

    the comms are so sad, bo and upset is trying to communicate as much as they can what they want/see, but often ends so poorly from the execution side from the team idk if its brain lag or stage fright the game looks super autopilot/solo queue like

  • @abirmahmud2242
    @abirmahmud2242 4 месяца назад +29

    never seen a support this quiet the hell is this shit

  • @kingath_0142
    @kingath_0142 4 месяца назад +18

    I am telling you guys bo needs a communicating mid sup duo. He literally went like 10-0 on fox because doinb and crisp managed the game and he could show his mechanics.

    • @kingath_0142
      @kingath_0142 4 месяца назад +16

      But on kc its the exact opposite targamas is muted and sakens English sounds even worse than Bos

    • @deliberation6022
      @deliberation6022 4 месяца назад +7

      @@kingath_0142 I thought Saken was speaking french at times. I swear the french captions looked accurate.

  • @silentrhymes7490
    @silentrhymes7490 4 месяца назад +8

    You can say Bo is learning english and all that but I can barely understand anything of what the french players are saying

  • @redwoolfred2
    @redwoolfred2 4 месяца назад +2

    I'v never seen a support so quiet before

  • @Genpsalm
    @Genpsalm 4 месяца назад +2

    Hats off to Bo he really tried, his english also improved and you can clearly understand whay he says. Other members should stepup, mid should talk more, give his opinions approaching team fights or in their macro

  • @pantack5112
    @pantack5112 4 месяца назад +4

    I'm a native english speaker and I can barely understand the french players sometimes, i feel bad for Bo

  • @imheretosleep
    @imheretosleep 4 месяца назад +2

    I watched all of their games and I can say 100%, Upset is a good ADC sadge he got a support like Targamas.

  • @TehKevin10
    @TehKevin10 4 месяца назад +8

    XQC midlane and a broken mic support with Bo tryharding his best.

  • @PiratePineapplez
    @PiratePineapplez 4 месяца назад +2

    Targamas Is getting payed for this

  • @user-rt5ew9tl6b
    @user-rt5ew9tl6b 4 месяца назад

    6:15 yes upset played it well but did you notice that mikyx went straight through the wole vision part and they didnt react xd? Bot trolled it hardly but its true that upset outplayed it in some way but it doesn't change fact that there wouldnt't be any action on bot if they just fall back when they saw mikyx running down on em lol

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis9273 4 месяца назад +1

    Upset because like:I SAID WE TRADE, NOT WINTRADE

  • @Pigraider268
    @Pigraider268 4 месяца назад +3

    Midlane, support and top aren't talking. Could this be because they are french?

  • @SereneMars
    @SereneMars 4 месяца назад +12

    Just get trymbi in

  • @ambiente6708
    @ambiente6708 4 месяца назад

    i cant even remember when upset win game in LEC for last time

  • @enjoy2k_
    @enjoy2k_ 4 месяца назад

    Basically, Cinkrof was the shotcaller in KC that’s why it’s not working

  • @nachnamevorname3431
    @nachnamevorname3431 4 месяца назад +1

    1:53 Marek fucking Brazda withhis Akali who drives a Mazda making absolutly fun of Cabochard

  • @alejandrocremades9411
    @alejandrocremades9411 4 месяца назад +7

    ofc if targamas mutes in game in stage like in champions queue

  • @derteezauberer5884
    @derteezauberer5884 4 месяца назад +6

    I feel like Targa doesn't want to play the game

  • @jaybeecaranza9471
    @jaybeecaranza9471 4 месяца назад +1

    the fact that Targamas is an LEC champion is mind boggling to me how he plays in LEC and not saying anything during clash LOL

  • @nicolsd4413
    @nicolsd4413 4 месяца назад

    do you think had they kept the lfl roster they'd have better results?

  • @ramus1063
    @ramus1063 4 месяца назад +1

    One of my good friends whom is a adc main played with targa bard in gm. He said he is one of the worst pros he had ever played with XD

  • @keknaskekngnton6658
    @keknaskekngnton6658 4 месяца назад

    at this point they need to make either a full french roster so they can speak french or ff

  • @chie9500
    @chie9500 4 месяца назад +12

    Im not a KC Fan but little bit concerned 😢 Feels bad for Bo and Upset i hope they change roster for spring and summer Canna or Finn was free on Top and Abbadagge on Mid and Trymbi on Support this roster would be decent

    • @zora1860
      @zora1860 4 месяца назад

      they choose kc kinda their own fault

    • @kvyatormaldonado92
      @kvyatormaldonado92 4 месяца назад

      not a lot of options for the duo after last summer split. @@zora1860

  • @summonstormx
    @summonstormx 4 месяца назад +2

    Okay but Bo is in elohell

  • @jomoliu
    @jomoliu 4 месяца назад +1

    I will never believe that Bo is not a top tier jungle. When he was on FPX they were literally unbeatable. If he wasn’t found to be win trading and banned, I genuinely think they could’ve made it far at worlds that year.

  • @raizerlax7
    @raizerlax7 4 месяца назад +1

    They are just so desynced in every fight. It makes it so hard to trust your teammates to cover you in fights as an ad

  • @SuccuNoob
    @SuccuNoob 4 месяца назад

    poor Bo

  • @florianlehmann8335
    @florianlehmann8335 4 месяца назад

    Okey cabo and targamas are just muted or what?

  • @normidamusni167
    @normidamusni167 4 месяца назад +18

    Upload the kt vs kdf mr. Rat editor

  • @alozyyy
    @alozyyy 4 месяца назад +2

    Just get Trymbi and try with like any ERL toplaner. I think Saken can improve with time, Cabo and Targamas are just not LEC level

    • @podjono
      @podjono 4 месяца назад

      STFU WITH Trymbi this motherfucker wintraded for 2 years with his dogshit nasus and alistar, get someone fresh

  • @THEkullerpuller
    @THEkullerpuller 4 месяца назад +1

    Just imagine this: KC goes and gets Nisqi from SK (he is pretty good with French fans) and Trymbi. Suddenly you have a support that understands his role, that talks, that doesn't need to be micromanaged by Upset and a mid that is known to enable his jungler very well. At that point you should at least be able to make playoffs even with Cabo loosing every lane and you can still look to get Odo or even Bwipo if you want. Hearing these comms should get Targa and Saken investigated for matchfixing. Like who gets explicitly told to tank, agrees to tank and then NOT TAKE AGGRO to get his jungler killed? Same with Saken saying 'I can hard commit to top' while being a mile away and then not even walking directly to the fight. This should get you benched instantly. And I imagine that their staff has more examples of this behavior from scrims. I mean you have the player with the highest potential in the league by far with Bo and Yamato has stated that he wants a team to fully commit to Bo's playstyle but every time this happens Bo will trust his team less and less and at some point start to doubt himself which is the last thing you'd want to happen.

    • @grimjowjaggerjak
      @grimjowjaggerjak 4 месяца назад

      Nisqy and upset hate each other tho

    • @THEkullerpuller
      @THEkullerpuller 4 месяца назад

      @@grimjowjaggerjak wait really? All I know is that Fnatic tried to get Humanoid. Then maybe go for Carzzy Hilly next year since Upset only signed for one year and try to get Bo to resign 🤔

    • @THEkullerpuller
      @THEkullerpuller 4 месяца назад

      @@grimjowjaggerjak oh I just noticed that Abbedagge is available. Maybe that would be a quick fix for spring 🤔

  • @Art1factlol
    @Art1factlol 4 месяца назад

    honestly i upset and bo are crystal clear and i dont understand a word the others say. especially saken. i feel like he is just speaking french

  • @ngnl_irisoul
    @ngnl_irisoul 4 месяца назад

    Targamas needs to either improve his macro/vocal, sup is legit the least mechanically intensive role, the main value of a good sup player is game knowledge, macro and shotcalling. If he can't do it, he's probs very replaceable in the foreseeable future. Like it da doesn't even matter if the other 4 are playing bad if the role that's supposed to be vocal is da just replaceable by probs any veteran ad/mid/jg player

  • @scottt461
    @scottt461 4 месяца назад +4

    Targamas is basically win trading

  • @2xYuW
    @2xYuW 4 месяца назад +1

    So what you're saying is that G2 2022 was fighting 4v5 and still won LEC lmao

  • @freakopath8853
    @freakopath8853 4 месяца назад +1

    Nah but I can't hear what Saken is saying man

  • @HossundHopf_News
    @HossundHopf_News 4 месяца назад

    Smart play by KC, so they can kick out them and everyone sees why and noone complains.

  • @concept3705
    @concept3705 4 месяца назад +1

    This is what I think honestly, they looked awkward, I think Saken has some good questions and but I think the atmosphere betweem them are just awkward. It look to me that they arent that close together.

  • @LuisPeerez
    @LuisPeerez 4 месяца назад

    targamas tenia bajo a boca

  • @bowser2onrs
    @bowser2onrs 4 месяца назад

    Time to call trymbi and finn?

  • @LargeMcBottoms
    @LargeMcBottoms 4 месяца назад

    Upset playing all those fights so incredibly bad.

  • @tenarmurk
    @tenarmurk 4 месяца назад +1

    idk people flaming upset when hes been best adc in eu for 3 years now

  • @joppevanstiphout516
    @joppevanstiphout516 4 месяца назад

    Really stretching that fair use here lol

  • @brammutje15
    @brammutje15 4 месяца назад +4

    upset and bo are asking the right questions yes, but there is never a decisive play. no one steps their foot down and makes the team commit to something

  • @Batchiee
    @Batchiee 4 месяца назад

    Istg that any team in lck academy and LDL can stomp this roster 😂😂😂

  • @ph8808
    @ph8808 4 месяца назад +1

    Free my boy upset

  • @HypersonicBeaver
    @HypersonicBeaver 4 месяца назад +2

    Pretty sure Bo can't understand 80% of what they're saying during teamfights. Those comms are too chaotic for a guy who barely knows english. Even I struggle to understand wtf they are mumbling. Upset can't focus because he has to call everything. Targamas is always silent which is super weird for a support player, also playing with built-in 300ms in brain, complete passanger. Saken has to be more confident and find his way into comms. Cabo is just bad and his comms are always out of place. Once again, Bo's english is still bad, but even when he makes calls that make perfect sense everyone just ignores him.
    IMO this team needs a Beryl-type shot-caller support with a working brain and good weak side top. And again, Saken has to grow some balls, he can do much better.

  • @jimlahey9122
    @jimlahey9122 4 месяца назад

    Damn i feel really bad about upset and bo. Shotcalling as adc is something that should never happen in pro play

  • @arosu13
    @arosu13 4 месяца назад +1

    ur adc being the most vocal is a problem. there are very few adc's in pro that are shotcalling/being vocal for example Ghost when he was on DK but thats because he wasnt mechanically gifted like the other adc's Upset mechanically surpasses most adc's in the west and having him be the one asking questions and making plays is the worst thing you can do

  • @thaver9
    @thaver9 4 месяца назад

    Dam, comments here are great XD idint knew the world had so much idiots to offer XD

  • @gman9696
    @gman9696 4 месяца назад +1

    Cabo, Saken and Targa need to be kicked. They're either muted, being micromanaged or incomprehensible.

  • @fernandoortiz1730
    @fernandoortiz1730 4 месяца назад

    Cabo and Targa out next season :o

  • @wisteria_blade
    @wisteria_blade 4 месяца назад

    i thought cabo is a veteran why is blud not speaking

  • @reddddahlia
    @reddddahlia 4 месяца назад +3

    targamas cant talk or? everytime the cam is on him on draft too blud dont say anything
    edit- got to the milio dive and holy shit what the fuck is this guy doing

  • @c0lson
    @c0lson 4 месяца назад +2

    Bro u legit have two french who u can barely understand cause of their accent plus Bo who couldnt speak english before joining LEC And Targamas who doesnt speak naturally at all wo else can speak and call if not Upset

    • @calvinvang4749
      @calvinvang4749 4 месяца назад

      Lmao that shit is funny as fk but true. I can't understand the Frenchman at all. At least I understand bo

  • @Palindrome3945
    @Palindrome3945 4 месяца назад +5

    The thing is, as bad as Targa Saken and Cabo are this split, fans will never want to replace them, and KC can't afford to lose its fans sweet sweet money.
    Pretty sure they gonna wait for Caliste to join and take Cinkroff, replacing the 2 best performing members, for the better or worse.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 месяца назад +11

      nah there's no shot they do an Astralis speedrun surely they have eyes

    • @CortoMREX
      @CortoMREX 4 месяца назад +1

      No Kameto will kick them if they don't step up, he like the player but he will prio the Club. For BO i'm not sure, he is amazing but i think if you wan't BO you have to make a roster for him.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 месяца назад +4

      @@CortoMREX they don't really need to make a roster for Bo, you just need someone (trymbi) directing him (Targamas could never) to do the right thing so that his mechanics get used in the right places

  • @TouchedWood
    @TouchedWood 4 месяца назад

    My apology to Bo, he is trying so hard

  • @kaly8329
    @kaly8329 4 месяца назад

    Whos the guy screaming in french?

  • @alozyyy
    @alozyyy 4 месяца назад +1

    Wtf 2:52

  • @hehexd5317
    @hehexd5317 4 месяца назад +1

    but the redditors said that bo bad and upset not good, how could they be the only human beings, dragging an abominable mutt and 2 french "people" every game?

  • @pique3124
    @pique3124 4 месяца назад

    This is so different to T1s comms where everyone takes turns calling shots. I don't know which style is better but interesting to see the differences.

    • @onceph1858
      @onceph1858 4 месяца назад +9

      One is a literal world championship team while the other is 0-6 in lec.

  • @ranolol
    @ranolol 4 месяца назад

    Looking at this, I'm thinking Cabo is clearly underwelming. Same as Saken but at least the guy doesn't screw over his team. I went at least Targamas out bc I wanna see them succeed.

  • @foolwhodreams
    @foolwhodreams 4 месяца назад

    Upset try not to get 10th place challenge level impossible

  • @marcus2259
    @marcus2259 4 месяца назад

    Bo may not speak perfectly,
    but buzzwords should be enough to trigger his teammates what to do if they actually also actively thinking.

  • @raymondandsweetheart7150
    @raymondandsweetheart7150 4 месяца назад +1

    Caboshard and Targamas need to go. Theres a clear leader and does two are dead weight. The voice coms puts more context on k corp.