Who were the Suebi?

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  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 5 месяцев назад +534

    I think it’s kinda cute that Caesar saw all these clearly mid-migration tribes and was like “yes they eat their pack animals and don’t trade much.”

    • @DISTurbedwaffle918
      @DISTurbedwaffle918 5 месяцев назад +126

      "Well look at all this! Wouldn't you believe all this I'm seeing here? By gabagool this is something I am witnissing here!"
      -Julius Caesar _De Bello Gallico_

    • @Historian212
      @Historian212 5 месяцев назад +33

      Yes, Julius Caesar is often said to have been “cute,” lol.

    • @conlangknow8787
      @conlangknow8787 4 месяца назад +22

      ​@@Historian212I love his cute lil totally not balding head 🥰🥰🥰😍😍🤩

    • @McBrannon1000
      @McBrannon1000 4 месяца назад +60

      ​@@DISTurbedwaffle918great. Now I'm imagining Caesar talking like the Sopranos. "Hey, Mark 'Tone, you seein' this?"

    • @bigbubble4282
      @bigbubble4282 4 месяца назад +72

      @@McBrannon1000 "He conquered Gaul is what he did! He was a great Roman general! And in this house Julius Caesar is a hero! End of story!"

  • @mirekbns
    @mirekbns 5 месяцев назад +477

    The slang term for Germans used by the Poles to this day is "Szwaby" (pronunciation is very close to "Suebi"). Not considered a very polite term but then again we've been such great neighbors.

    • @acaydia2982
      @acaydia2982 5 месяцев назад +20

      😂

    • @petergeramin7195
      @petergeramin7195 5 месяцев назад +5

      Can you translate what insult it's supposed to mean

    • @amarcord1988
      @amarcord1988 5 месяцев назад +49

      In Croatia we do the same - Švabe.

    • @mirekbns
      @mirekbns 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@petergeramin7195 It translates to "Germans".

    • @user-yr3zp2br3y
      @user-yr3zp2br3y 5 месяцев назад +39

      My bulgarian grandfather used to call germans "Шваби" (Shvabi) as well. Usually when he talked about them angrily, if not he called them just "Немци" or, more rarely, "Германци".

  • @Sp4mMe
    @Sp4mMe 5 месяцев назад +778

    Their history as a migratory tribe is of course still visible today in the obsession with building Porsches and Mercedeses.

    • @acaydia2982
      @acaydia2982 5 месяцев назад +20

      😂

    • @firstjedi2
      @firstjedi2 5 месяцев назад +6

      I don't get it

    • @Sp4mMe
      @Sp4mMe 5 месяцев назад +49

      @@firstjedi2 Mercedes and Porsche are based in Stuttgart, which is in Schwaben, a German region that has its name from the Suebi (people are called the same).
      Cars, movement, migration, that sorta connection.

    • @OzzieMozzie777
      @OzzieMozzie777 5 месяцев назад +14

      Mercedeseses

    • @thekillers1stfan
      @thekillers1stfan 5 месяцев назад +15

      Are you Portuguese? That's where the Suebi ended up

  • @Drewe223
    @Drewe223 5 месяцев назад +305

    Thank you for not putting super dramatic obnoxious music in this video.

    • @smothdude
      @smothdude 4 месяца назад +6

      I agree with you. I love to watch these types of video late at night, the over the top music makes it so much harder to relax and just enjoy. So, I appreciate this a lot!

  • @proto566
    @proto566 5 месяцев назад +347

    As a barbarian myself, i feel quite informed.

    • @lukealadeen7836
      @lukealadeen7836 5 месяцев назад +25

      now please shave your beard and put on a toga

    • @ReidHenderson
      @ReidHenderson 4 месяца назад +5

      Same here❤

    • @jasrajsandhu1658
      @jasrajsandhu1658 4 месяца назад +2

      Nah, you aren't one, because 1 you are the same genetically as them 2 you don't have the same facial features as them nor are blond as them

    • @randomcamus9445
      @randomcamus9445 4 месяца назад

      😮🤓

    • @g.dalfleblanc63
      @g.dalfleblanc63 4 месяца назад +5

      @@lukealadeen7836The reason why the ancient Romans loved bathing is because the cities stank of human excrement.

  • @kwitshadie6539
    @kwitshadie6539 4 месяца назад +45

    Please do more Celti-Germanic tribes.
    The specific tribes get overlooked way too often and you did a phenomenal job. 🤩

  • @SamuelViana
    @SamuelViana 5 месяцев назад +204

    As portuguese, I have to remember the suebs on Iberia were converted by Martinho de Dume, the bishop of would-be named Braga, which was the suebs capital. He also changed the names of weekdays names from latin to new ones, which were retained on modern portiguese (segunda-feira for Monday, terca-feira for Tuesday, etc), which is different from Castilian, which retained the old latin names (Lunes, Miercoles).

    • @margraveofgadsden8997
      @margraveofgadsden8997 5 месяцев назад +2

      So, what happened to prima-feira?

    • @fuferito
      @fuferito 5 месяцев назад +4

      So, wait, Portuguese weekdays begin with Sunday, like in English (at least, traditionally)?

    • @crqf2010ruler
      @crqf2010ruler 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@fuferito Domingo Segunda Terça Quarta Quinta Sexta Sábado.

    • @william6223
      @william6223 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@crqf2010rulerObrigado por nos educar.

    • @staceysoltoff
      @staceysoltoff 4 месяца назад +4

      Hebrew (and I'm presuming Arabic) just number the days of the week except for their rest day. I didn't know there were European languages that did as well.

  • @AntonioBrandao
    @AntonioBrandao 5 месяцев назад +149

    I am from Braga, the old Suebi capital. We still have much of their legacy around, mixed in with the Roman.

    • @rohitrai6187
      @rohitrai6187 5 месяцев назад +4

      Are there any descendants who can trace themselves to Suebi?

    • @AntonioBrandao
      @AntonioBrandao 5 месяцев назад +33

      @@rohitrai6187 all I can say from observation is that in the countryside outside the city, there is a high proportion of country folk who look blonde / Germanic. Distinct from the typical Portuguese which is the majority in the city. We also have references to the Suebi written in walls of old churches.

    • @AntonioBrandao
      @AntonioBrandao 5 месяцев назад +19

      @@rohitrai6187 so I would say, very likely yes. I have one friend in particular who I call “the Suebi” because he’s so differently built and blonde. It’s funny because if you get in a car and drive to the countryside, you start seeing mostly blonde, Germanic-looking people.

    • @lost_porkchop
      @lost_porkchop 5 месяцев назад +16

      Don't you love how the video says they settled in Northwestern Spain instead of northwestern Iberia 🙄

    • @lost_porkchop
      @lost_porkchop 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@rohitrai6187Yes, the whole country

  • @Civilis1980
    @Civilis1980 5 месяцев назад +74

    This is the content I crave. Actual information

  • @antonyreyn
    @antonyreyn 5 месяцев назад +75

    Cool video, the town of Swaffam England is conjectured to come from the Swabians, also Tacitus even refers to the Angles as Suebi Angli. Cheers from Mercia

    • @JustAnotherHistoryChannel
      @JustAnotherHistoryChannel  5 месяцев назад +8

      I have been to Swaffham and I had no idea about this! Very interesting

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 5 месяцев назад +14

      I am Brittas boyfriend, being member of current Schwaben, prefering speaking my dialect over speaking Standard German. In case of of settlements many current towns or villages date back to Alemannic tribal age ( graveyards). A typical settlements name ends with -ingen. Somewhere i read, this - ingen and british -ingham have the same root.

    • @antonyreyn
      @antonyreyn 5 месяцев назад +5

      Cool i am in Nottingham, but i also think about the Rune Ing and the language Ingaevonic which Anglo Saxon is part of. Cheers

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@antonyreyn : Somewhere i read , that in current english Nottingham would mean Nott's Farm. In my swabian homeregion there is a villlage Notzingen, according to an accademic person , who told me, this - ingen ending means: settlement of ....'s men/followers, and ... is a no more known name of a local leader. So the family/ clan leader , who founded Notzingen could have Had also the name Nott or Notz.
      A in my Homeregion often told story, that a man from Baltmannsweiler founded Baltimore is of course a joke,

    • @Bannermann
      @Bannermann 4 месяца назад +4

      @@brittakriep2938about the „Ingen“ and the „Heim“ I know something, that I found out in a Museum about the Alemanni (Swabians).
      Apparently, the ending „Ingen“ like in „Bissingen“ was used for settlements on good land, that was fertile.
      The ending „Heim“ like in „Höpfigheim“ was used for settlements that had been built on less fertile ground, second class settlements so to say. 😂
      I dont know if this is 100% true, its what was written in the text of the Museum in „Ellwangen“.

  • @Empire-Builders
    @Empire-Builders 5 месяцев назад +159

    Love your style: the thumbnails, assets, maps, etc. come together really well. This channel needs more attention.

    • @jayhuxley2559
      @jayhuxley2559 5 месяцев назад +3

      The Swabians were integrated in Northwest Iberia, they made Braga their capital and the social organization of the people of Minho was based in the Swabians and that was one of the main reasons why Portugal became independent of Spain.

    • @robert9016
      @robert9016 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s a great accompaniment to your own channel :)

    • @thekillers1stfan
      @thekillers1stfan 5 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed aside from the weird AI images spliced in every once in a while

    • @macrosense
      @macrosense 4 месяца назад

      Krauts. Jerries. Goosesteppers

    • @samuelkugler6474
      @samuelkugler6474 2 месяца назад

      ,,goosesteppers,,🤣🤣 never heard that before, great

  • @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
    @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 4 месяца назад +69

    Never forget about your ancestors.......We are them, they were not savages, they knew how to live off the land, and they were warriors, and werent afraid to fight for it. The system, and the elites would love for you to believe your ancestors were savages, and that nothing they did was of importance.
    A people is defined by what times they live through. Thise were dangerous times, and our people adapted to that. We are in times now where we will have to adapt again and fight for our own. Our ancestors are right with us.
    Slainte!

    • @jasrajsandhu1658
      @jasrajsandhu1658 4 месяца назад +9

      Nah our ancestors took over other people's lands, get over it, they weren't tree hugging peace loving people, they enjoyed war

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 4 месяца назад +4

      Governments wanting to colonise an area will do that (try to convince you your ancestors were barbarians without any culture worth remembering or keeping alive), not the system. Thus, the French, English etc claimed they were civilising their colonies and refused to consider these colonies too had a proud and very interesting history and culture.
      There is the other extreme: a government that emphasises the past glory of a culture (like the Uk government at the moment) in order to advocate for that silly act of self-harm called Brexit, or the French far right trying to make the people believe the French are going to be swamped by invaders and must save their civilisation. The best way to save a civilisation is to seduce: the Romans managed it (as we could hear from the way some Suevi joined the Romans) to make people want to become Roman citizens. Seduction :). A lot of what the Romans were about is carried further by western Europe, because of this "seduction". It would be easy to resent it...but at the same time, they did write about the people they subjected, and there was a form of respect in their descriptions.

    • @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
      @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 4 месяца назад

      @@jasrajsandhu1658 What did í just say in my comment? Can you read? I said they were not savages. They adapted, and they were warriors, they fought hard for their people. Where did í say they were tree huggers? They were quick to war. And fighting just like some of us are today. But that doesn't equate to savages. They were also family oriented, and despised degeneracy. Read it again.
      1.4.8.8.⚡️⚡️

    • @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
      @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 4 месяца назад

      @@annepoitrineau5650 Agreed. There are alot of parallels between ancient Rome, and what is going today. Except today this is about whether our people die out or not. If we don't wake up, there won't be a European people to speak of. They are using many tools to destroy and erase us.

    • @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
      @Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 4 месяца назад +19

      @@jasrajsandhu1658 Where did í say they were tree huggers? Can you read?

  • @notsans9995
    @notsans9995 4 месяца назад +164

    The real Suebi were the friends we made along the way.

    • @tikimillie
      @tikimillie 4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you totally not sans, very cool

  • @ryanshaw4250
    @ryanshaw4250 5 месяцев назад +19

    As a student of linguistics, I thank you for the linguistic information on the changes of suebi linguistically as it turned me onto a realization and tell of human progress. Languages transform as seen in the francification of english after the norman conquest, the katakanization aka europeanization of Japanese after the Boshin war, and numerous other examples. These changes in the ancient world reflect the clear introduction of the powerhouse Latin into the region. The inference that I make is that there is a very clearly defined window after this linguistic change where the language changes if we look at it also reflects then again into where these people end up roughly 300 years from that linguistic change.
    Put plainly, linguistic changes are like rings on a tree which reflect the interaction of some major regional connection and then predate the revirbiration of the afterparty.
    Grewat work tying so much multi science layering into your video.

  • @aful3091
    @aful3091 5 месяцев назад +15

    This was a great video, from the narration to the writing to the maps showing geographical features often omitted such as the thick forests that served as soft borders between Rome and the Germans. Instant sub and highly encourage you to continue.

  • @joserodrigues46
    @joserodrigues46 4 месяца назад +5

    The Suebi kingdom of the Northwest Iberian Peninsula is the root of the future kingdom of Portugal. Northern Portugal has the highest concentration of Germanic place names. The Portuguese city of Braga was the capital of the Suebi Kingdom.

  • @alexdelvento1273
    @alexdelvento1273 Месяц назад +5

    The word barbarians didn’t used to have a negative connotation it just referred to foreigners.

    • @SkywalkerPaul
      @SkywalkerPaul Месяц назад

      No. The Romans called others Barbar because that was how the foreign language sounded to the Romans. They heard "bah bah bah" hence Barbar

    • @alexdelvento1273
      @alexdelvento1273 Месяц назад

      Where’d you come up with that ?

    • @Balajohn_
      @Balajohn_ 7 дней назад

      They 100% used barbarians qs a slur for thought barbarian (foreigners) were low iq people unlike them the civilized

  • @Stevie-J
    @Stevie-J 5 месяцев назад +7

    The fair descriptions of the sources is so great. I also love the maps. I dislike when creators fact dump and focus on "the vibe" without including maps

  • @danielferguson3784
    @danielferguson3784 4 месяца назад +11

    Don't forget, the Roman writers often used the 'barbarians' as examples of toughness, in deliberate contrast to Romes soft & effete leaders, the noble Senators etc who had subjected themselves to tyranical Emperors. They were actually 'bigging up' the barbarians, so their descriptions stress the more virtuous, if somewhat chaotic, way of life of such people.
    The Roman attitude to the 'barbarians' did not have the negative connotation most people think, but they were admired, as examples of people living a more natural life than that of the City dwellers. They were regarded as the 'noble savage', worthy warriors, often better than the degenerate Citizens of Rome.

    • @margomoore4527
      @margomoore4527 20 дней назад

      We do the same as the Romans….Conan!

  • @GemsOnVHS
    @GemsOnVHS 4 месяца назад +9

    It is worth noting that a military general's observation of a people he is regularly only in contact with to kill is obviously going to be painted in a certain light. Imagine Caesar coming home and writing a book about how chill all the natives were, about the women/children they massacred, or how uneventful the trip was lol. Wouldn't exactly make for a thrilling narrative that pushes ones career forward.

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 3 месяца назад +2

      On the other hand, given his position Caesar was likely to have interacted with these people directly whereas scholars were procuring second hand information mostly. Notwithstanding Caesar's biases his accounts should be taken as more direct knowledge than that of the average scholar.

  • @boa1793
    @boa1793 4 месяца назад +5

    Thanks for all that research and compilation. Your delivery is excellent.

  • @clarkstartrek
    @clarkstartrek 5 месяцев назад +23

    The Suebi faced frequent attacks from other Germanic tribes, as well as from the Visigoths, who eventually conquered their kingdom in the 6th century. After their defeat, the Suebi gradually assimilated into the larger Visigothic society, and their culture and language disappeared. Despite being a conquered population, the Suevi are generally left in peace in Gallaecia, and they eventually blend into the general population of Iberia.
    712 A.D. TO 725 A.D.; The descendants of the Suevi remain relatively free of Islamic influence in north-western Iberia during the early years of occupation. Around 725 they are appended to the recently-formed Christian kingdom of Asturias, which is based a little to the east, on the Bay of Biscay.

    • @nicechock
      @nicechock Месяц назад +1

      Suebi are Swebians, Swedens, Svea.

    • @nicechock
      @nicechock Месяц назад +1

      or better known Gothic swedes

    • @Sadgodkafka
      @Sadgodkafka 15 дней назад

      what occupation?

  • @swedhgemoni8092
    @swedhgemoni8092 5 месяцев назад +24

    They still exist. Every German knows the Swabians.

    • @lyssilvertongue
      @lyssilvertongue 5 месяцев назад +5

      They exista even in Romania

    • @busch_ii7450
      @busch_ii7450 5 месяцев назад

      Gotta tell you most germans dont. Its also bot really part of the school curriculum

    • @swedhgemoni8092
      @swedhgemoni8092 4 месяца назад +5

      @@busch_ii7450 You're telling me Germans within the country don't know about Saxons, Bavarians, Prussians, Swabians etc.?

    • @busch_ii7450
      @busch_ii7450 4 месяца назад +1

      @@swedhgemoni8092 yes. In order of probability: Bavarians>Saxons>Swabians>Prussians
      Bavaria and Saxony are still federal states so people will know about them Way more then the other two. Prussia isnt around for a long time so you will be hard pressed to find anyone who knows them except people who are interested in history.
      For many their history knowledge starts at WW1. For some WW2 even.

    • @swedhgemoni8092
      @swedhgemoni8092 4 месяца назад +5

      @@busch_ii7450 Sigh, this is actually sad. They didn't even properly celebrate the 2000 year anniversary of the Battle of Teutoberg Forest.

  • @klmn48
    @klmn48 5 месяцев назад +12

    We had in region Banat of Romania, Suebi. They were called Shvabs! They were colonized in 17 siecle and all left for Germany after 1990!

    • @lowersaxon
      @lowersaxon 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, the „Banater Schwaben“ in German.

    • @antonpressing
      @antonpressing 4 месяца назад

      Die Siebenbürger Sachsen ?

    • @chegu613
      @chegu613 4 месяца назад

      ​@@antonpressingBanater Schwaben and Siebenbürger Sachsen are not the same!

    • @antonpressing
      @antonpressing 4 месяца назад +1

      @@chegu613 Die Siebenbürger Sachsen (Deutsch. Orden 13.Jh.) are not all Saxons. The Donauschwaben (KuK Monarchie 18.Jh.) are from allover Germany / Austria.

  • @maxsauer2623
    @maxsauer2623 5 месяцев назад +10

    That was one of the best historical videos I’ve ever seen on RUclips. Subscribed.

  • @andychap6283
    @andychap6283 5 месяцев назад +8

    Really interesting video, always excited to see an upload from this channel.

  • @Les-jl2tn
    @Les-jl2tn 4 месяца назад +7

    I wonder if there is any connection between "suebi" or "suabi" and the term "swoi". The word "swoi" in Polish is quite peculiar. It has translation into English that can be rendered "our own" or in German "unser eigenes". It is known to be used by local persons living in a particular area as the self-description when those persons have not felt particular association with their country/rulers. In some remote locations it was used even as long as in 20th century for locals living in a particular location for many generations to distinguish themselves from the overlords who would come and go. It is common that the tribes names, or even later country names are not the invention of their own members but come from the foreigners who they had contact with. When they would be asked "who you are" they often had different name than those which were passed by historians etc. Possibly some word similar to "swoi" or "suebi" was commonly used back in the day by lots of people who later became classified as Germans, Slavs or other.

    • @alexandervanhove7327
      @alexandervanhove7327 3 месяца назад

      In Farsi and English bad has the same meaning and almost pronunciation. But the two "bads" couldn't possible be related because of the consonant switches in old Germanic. So you must always be careful when two words look the same and have similar meanings. It could be coincidence, or it might even be folk etymology, with people changing the meaning of a phrase because it looks like something they know from another language.
      But the good news is that 90% of all etymologists believe you are right. Suebi and swoyi are related. Swoje and swoyi are also used in Russian by the way, and even so more many years ago, before "nashi" became the normal word for "our own people". Today Russians seem to use nashi more and more to mean Slavic-speaking people who were BORN outside of Russia, BUT in the former Soviet Union. Since Russian-speaking Buryats are not really "nashi" will they again become "swoyi" one day?
      The other 10% of etymologists believe that Suebi is derived from a Celtic word meaning vagabond or nomad. it could therefore be an insult, like "niemiec".

  • @user-rj5db6nt4i
    @user-rj5db6nt4i 5 месяцев назад +34

    The Suebi persist now in North Africa as the Zveva/Zwewa clan of the Amazigh tribes of Algeria.
    One of the Zwewa group used to work as Hitmen for other tribes.
    They kept some germanic traits in the behavior and even in physical traits .....red hair blue eyed North Africans.

    • @antonyreyn
      @antonyreyn 5 месяцев назад +7

      That's cool. Some Icelandic slaves were also taken to Algeria during the Muslim pirate state so more Germanic DNA there. Cheers from Mercia

    • @user-rj5db6nt4i
      @user-rj5db6nt4i 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@antonyreyn normandic genepool too all over the Coast of Tunisia...beautiful celestial Blue eyed girls....and I am more a fan of darker skin ....but those eyes are unbelievable even by Caucasian standards.....btw ...All of them are Muslims hé hé hé

    • @ancientillyrian6385
      @ancientillyrian6385 5 месяцев назад +3

      Interesting. I know many went into Portugal and Spain. The Danube Swabians settled Austro-Hungary, Romania, and the Balkans..... Alemanni in general

    • @Bannermann
      @Bannermann 4 месяца назад +1

      First and Foremost they are of course still in Germany, and some ancestral dna is also found in Portugal, but thats really interesting.

    • @BloingDidoing
      @BloingDidoing 4 месяца назад +4

      are you sure that those are the decendents of the Suebi and not rather of the vandals? You have to remember that the Vandals conquered and ruled and reigned over North Africa for many generations.

  • @savannahshepherd2283
    @savannahshepherd2283 4 месяца назад +3

    I love hearing about more obscure history, im super pleased to have found your channel! :D

  • @iamperplexed4695
    @iamperplexed4695 3 месяца назад +2

    It is interesting that both high german and low german are spoken regularily today, although I never really understood the monikers of high and low.

  • @redfoxtress
    @redfoxtress 5 месяцев назад +5

    Great and informative video. I'm really glad RUclips recommended it to me. That's one well earned subscription for you

  • @LesangdesdieuX
    @LesangdesdieuX 4 месяца назад +4

    It as always been a source of confusion how germanic confederations included tribes and people that changed over time.
    They are often made up of closely related tribes but sometimes they just stick together after being neibors and allies as generations goes and geopilitics changes.
    As so the same confederation can include different peoples over time or even split in different directions with migrations and conquest.

  • @tommyschmierer4627
    @tommyschmierer4627 5 месяцев назад +6

    Serbians often call germans Schwabi... Шваби in Cyrillic ... Just thought I'd throw that out there since I'm a Serbian/Hungarian person myself ...

    • @milansimonovic8267
      @milansimonovic8267 5 месяцев назад +2

      Dud Suebi are Srbi, because the Latins can't pronaunce 3 consonant one after the other they changed R to UE. And it is common that B changed to V in Greek and Latin.

  • @Wra7hofAchilles
    @Wra7hofAchilles 5 месяцев назад +11

    Terrific video. Well structured, good pacing, and informative. I feel like this was done well enough both for the amateur and the more learned.
    Earned a sub!
    It'd be great if in the video description you listed your notes/sources for those who want to try and dig up more info. Looking forward to more videos like this!

  • @raul88.88
    @raul88.88 4 месяца назад +7

    In the West of Romania we have a germanic minority called "Șvabi" (in Banat), related to "Sași" from the center of Transylavia. I think they might be the same or related to "Suebi". Or perhaps a name coincidence.

    • @oskar6607
      @oskar6607 4 месяца назад

      Likely just a name meaning “Germans”

    • @stancalung5186
      @stancalung5186 3 месяца назад +1

      they are the descendants of settlers colonised at the end of the 18th century by the Habsburgs. In Germany they are known as the "Banatenschwaben" (the Swabians from Banat). And they came not only from Swabia, but also from Alsace, Lotharingia, the (Rhein) Palatinate. So, they are "related" to the Suebi, like all other Germans living in South Germany today, but didn´t came in the region in the antique period. And they have nothing in common with the Transylvanian Saxons, who came (also as colonists) in the 13th century: they speak different dialects, have different religions (most of the Saxons are lutheran, the Schwabs are almost all catholic) etc.

    • @kristofschneider601
      @kristofschneider601 3 месяца назад +1

      @@stancalung5186 All relevant facts, thank you!

  • @sosa_prodigy_not
    @sosa_prodigy_not 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is exactly the video I was looking for. Thank you!!

  • @AdalbertPtak
    @AdalbertPtak 4 месяца назад +5

    Who was savage and warlike??
    First and foremost the Romans!

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly 4 месяца назад +8

    Perfect Podcast Voice….

  • @BK-rd7qp
    @BK-rd7qp 4 месяца назад +1

    Very good video, smoothly presented & executed, with appropriate attribution to sources and analysis. Top shelf, subscribed & look forward to more like this. So many "barbarian" tribes, voluminous potential.

  • @Lou.B
    @Lou.B 4 месяца назад +1

    Best presentation of the period that I've seen! Well done!

  • @StoicHistorian
    @StoicHistorian 5 месяцев назад +8

    Great video! Love your stuff man

  • @FABIO_MARTINSS
    @FABIO_MARTINSS 4 месяца назад +10

    I'm Brazilian and I tested positive for Haplogroup I-m253 ( my father too), which is found mainly in Nordic men (35% Sweden, 50% Gotland) even more than in Germany (16%). My grandfather came from the North of Portugal (Suebi territory in the past) to Brazil. Paternal Y DNA is passed from father to son over millennia without significant mutations, so you see exactly who your male ancestors were without error. In my case, my male ancestors are Suebi.

  • @alinaanto
    @alinaanto 5 месяцев назад +5

    I liked your video. One observation: since in Latin writing the letters U and V are written the same, Suebi could just as well be more Svebi. Seeing how the Germans known as Schwaben (pronounced shvaben) have made it through all these centuries into the modern days, I find it more likely that the original pronunciation was closer to Svebi.

    • @lucadefranco3420
      @lucadefranco3420 5 месяцев назад +2

      V would have been pronounced as U in Latin though

    • @alinaanto
      @alinaanto 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@lucadefranco3420 not always, for example the word victory. Sometimes U, sometimes V

  • @ancientillyrian6385
    @ancientillyrian6385 5 месяцев назад +49

    They didn't want to be conquered, controlled, taxed and confined by the empire, so they were labeled uncivilized Barbarians. How dare they strive for independence and freedom.

    • @RobertWF42
      @RobertWF42 5 месяцев назад +14

      I don't think we can label the Germans as good guys and the Romans as the villains. The Germans initiated many of the wars. One of the most devastating was the Cimbrian War of 113 to 101 B.C. (not mentioned in this video).

    • @ancientillyrian6385
      @ancientillyrian6385 5 месяцев назад

      @@RobertWF42 The Germans were tribal and localized. They were not an ever expanding empire that tried to subjugate all under their authority. They broke up into various tribes illustrating this. They only united to throw off the yoke. The Germanic Franks were infiltrated. They turned on them and made sure the Alemanni all fell under the HRE. This fact, and WWII is why there is animosity between many Germans and French (Germanic) today. The eagle of Rome has landed in many places.

    • @rpinter677
      @rpinter677 4 месяца назад +9

      Which empire was expanding and controlling many people in much of Europe and the Mediterranean for over 500 years???

    • @ancientillyrian6385
      @ancientillyrian6385 4 месяца назад +3

      @@RobertWF42 The American Indians (Indigenous peoples-like the Alemanni) initiated many conflicts as their lands were being overrun . The calvary (as Rome) defeated them although they won many battles. Rome used the Franks (an Alemanni tribe) to subdue the Germanic tribes and instituted the HRE. The Indigenous (Old Europeans) were largely replaced by the Indo-Europeans. The eagle of Rome came to the Americas as well. The aim is the same.

    • @ancientillyrian6385
      @ancientillyrian6385 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RobertWF42 There were no Germans at the time. They were not confederate. They were loose tribes of Germanic peoples called the Alemanni Deutsch.

  • @Pipes570
    @Pipes570 Месяц назад +1

    As a Swabian (Specifically from the Legler family, which is an ancient Swabian family), believing Suebi/Swabians abandoned their Pagan ways is laughable, because we literally invented "Christian Paganism" (disguising Pagan traditions in Christianity, like a "wolf in sheeps clothing" effect). That's why we "Christianized" our gods which was the act of assigning each deity to a Christian figure associated with the the same things for example, Saint Anna, to the Suebi was actually the German goddess Nehelenia, and so-on, holidays, etc. In fact, during the Spanish Inquisitions, the Suebi taught it to the Jews so that the Jews could preserve their customs by hiding them in Christianity. That's why Swabia also has the tallest church in the world, and invented Nudeltasche (more commonly known as "Maultasche") so that when the church forbade the consumtion of meat, the Swabians were still eating meat. We've always known how gullible Christians actually are.

  • @Galician-l5i
    @Galician-l5i 3 месяца назад +2

    I am a Ukrainian researcher of Royal Scythians, Swabia and mainly Northern Europe. According to my researches the ancient Suebians were half Germans. Another their part was Celtic (primary Celts, Royal Scythians, Galicians) and Wenedians. The right etymology of the therm Suebi can come from the Swedish-German surnames Svebeck, Swedbeck. The Germanic origin of second component -beck is wrong.

    • @volkerr.
      @volkerr. Месяц назад

      Beck is a dialect name for baker. In Schwäbisch and in alemannisch.

    • @Galician-l5i
      @Galician-l5i Месяц назад

      @@volkerr. You are wrong!

    • @volkerr.
      @volkerr. Месяц назад

      @@Galician-l5i sorry. Ich bin Deutscher und im schwäbisch alemannischen Sprachraum aufgewachsen. Ich spreche sowohl schwäbisch, als auch alemannisch (Schweizerdeutsch)….

  • @sppl623
    @sppl623 4 месяца назад

    this production quality made me think you had 100s of thousands of subs this is so next level!!

  • @Aujax92
    @Aujax92 4 месяца назад

    Great video, my new favorite channel since Cambrian Chronicles

  • @patrickhamilton5829
    @patrickhamilton5829 5 месяцев назад +3

    Markomanni means border-men or forest/wilderness-men. Forests and wilderness areas were often natural borders separating different tribes. Compare «Markland» the name given to Newfoundland by Leiv Eriksson. As well as the modern Norwegian counties Hedmark and Finnmark.

    • @danielferguson3784
      @danielferguson3784 4 месяца назад +1

      The English Kingdom of Mercia, & the Marches of Wales & the Scottish borders are of the same root.

  • @hohetannen4703
    @hohetannen4703 5 месяцев назад +5

    The ominous blood red on the black background in the fraktur script is going to trigger someone lol.

  • @petecrittenden1488
    @petecrittenden1488 4 месяца назад +1

    I lived in Stuttgart for five years ... the Swabians are a pack of savages ... and I love them!

  • @velvett60
    @velvett60 Месяц назад

    Very interesting video thank you. I´m from Coruña Galicia (NW Spain), the village of Suevos is a 10 mnt drive from my place, in fact I have to drive through it more often than not to get to & from work. I grew up in the UK, for the most part of my childhood we lived in a small village on the outskirts of Cambridge, Swavesey! 😅 Belive it or not I hadn´t connected the dots before watching your video, but It suddenly dawned on me how modern Europeans have far more in common than we think, or at least than what I was aware of.

  • @berningid
    @berningid 2 месяца назад

    so well produced! the music and the visuals, wow

  • @mr.t114
    @mr.t114 3 месяца назад +2

    Oh Serbs, when put like so, ”suebi”. I had to click as a Swede.

  • @KelsaRavenlock
    @KelsaRavenlock 5 месяцев назад +6

    So Arius gets slapped by Nicholas, Alexandria gets sidelined, and German converts are deemed heretics for believing that God and Jesus are not co-eternal.
    And yet they adopt the Nicene creed that states that the father begat the son just before the start of time.
    Alot of eventual chaos and death for a minor rewording of the same idea.

    • @giw_jones
      @giw_jones 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's not the same idea, I'm not very well versed in theology but those who are will tell you that the father begetting the son is outside of time. The existence of the son necessitates that there is a father and vice versa, not that the father spawned the son after his own being.

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@giw_jones Jesus: What is this pagan heresy? God is like humans, prophets and angels. They will disagree with you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mauganra2589
    @mauganra2589 4 месяца назад +3

    “The large phallus is from a Suebi I killed in the Rhinelands, a strong, fierce people” - Lucius Vorenus 😆

  • @Hamter_mental_counseling
    @Hamter_mental_counseling 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi this was an interesting video. I think it would benefit from having more depictions (paintings or otherwise) of the Suevi and their lifestyle. For example, the painting of the settlement in the forest at the beginning was impressive and it helps relate to the content. The first bit about categorisation I thought could have been shorter and instead spend more time describing these people and their lifestyle

  • @Odanti
    @Odanti 4 месяца назад

    I enjoyed your video. You have a great voice. That voice kept me to stay and watch to the end. I love history.
    Thank you
    ❤️🙏❤️

  • @greenviolist34
    @greenviolist34 22 дня назад +1

    hahaha... I was honestly just wondering this a few days ago.
    Thanks

  • @noelwitaseck9697
    @noelwitaseck9697 3 месяца назад +1

    Fun Fact: some of the suebi have migrated eaven further east and now occupy the territory between bornholmer straße and torstraße

  • @margomoore4527
    @margomoore4527 21 день назад

    The Schwaebisch are not just some lost historical tribes. My paternal grandmother was of Schwaebisch origins; although born in the US, she spoke only German until 1st grade. She and her brother had a distinctive accent (that included a slight lisp). I was able to identify a German immigrant who was married to one of the teachers at my high school, by his accent, as Schwaebisch. I have not heard that accent since 1968 but would identify it instantly. It’s a rather soft-sounding accent. I would like to hear it again.

  • @native_earth916
    @native_earth916 Месяц назад

    One half of my family is Galacian and Portuguese and the other half is Asturian, love my ancestral homeland

  • @ras573
    @ras573 2 месяца назад +1

    In Serbo-Croatian, the slang name for Germans is: "Shvabe".

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 2 месяца назад

    I was not aware of the Suebi. Thanks for putting them in their context among the Germanic forest tribes

  • @BigYehudah
    @BigYehudah 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video. Two brief comments.
    1. What is called 'Catholicism' didn't exist in the 5th century. What modern Roman Catholics believe is medieval. 'catholic' meant the universal church. Often texts get misquoted in this way.
    2. Arianism was a spectrum. The Jesus was created is a position that was abandoned very quickly my most Arians. Most arians were Semi-arian, which was itself a spectrum in roughly 4 categories.
    A. The Father created the Son out of his own essence. The Son is co-equal, but not co-eternal.
    B. The Father eternally generates the Son (in an unorthodox way). The Son is Co-eternal but not co-equal.
    C. Binitarianism. The Father & Son are both co-equal & co-eternal. But the Holy Spirit isn't a person, just a force.
    D. Trinitarians who rejected Nicene language who wanted to use biblical language only.
    The specific beliefs of individuals are probably impossible to know. But probably The Goths were a mixture of A,B, & C. I doubt there was much of D. Because that party largely caved & eventually excepted Nicene language.

  • @Erick_Bloodaxe
    @Erick_Bloodaxe 4 месяца назад +1

    I think it’s likely the Chatti of Caesar’s time were in allegiance with the Suebi and therefore he was deferred to them. Caesar had German horsemen in his army, the nuances wouldn’t have been lost on him if they were relevant to the time. The century and half later when Tacitus was writing it was a different political situation among the tribes.

  • @mccarthy86
    @mccarthy86 Месяц назад +1

    I'm half Swiss. I know the Alamanni (my ancestors) where a confederation of mixed Germanic peoples, so I assume a lot of Suebi were in there. I always wondered why the moved to Switzerland because its a much more hostile environment and closer to Rome. Did they just do it as a giant raid on the Roman settlements for loot? It's unfortunate we don't have much information on them.

    • @JustAnotherHistoryChannel
      @JustAnotherHistoryChannel  Месяц назад +1

      I'd quite like to do a separate video on the Alemanni specifically - it's a fascinating topic and I know very little about it

    • @mccarthy86
      @mccarthy86 Месяц назад +1

      @@JustAnotherHistoryChannel I would love that. Since we never formed a kingdom or empire, we preserved the democracy from the Alamanni. Our Landsgemeinde (which is where we get our Direct Democracy from) is literally a continuation of the Germanic assembly called Thing.

  • @jeremycline9542
    @jeremycline9542 5 месяцев назад +3

    It seems like where they were in Iberia later became Portuguese speaking. Did they have an influence on that in some way?

    • @miguelsilva1446
      @miguelsilva1446 5 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah their main area of influence was northern portugal and galicia wich ended up with a distint culture very simililar to each other(have been sister nations to the modern day even, but it's changing with the depopulation of galicia, and young peple adopting castilian over their motger tongue for more opportunities these days)
      And some say the suebi kingdom may have been a proto portugal/Galicia of sorts
      Also an interesting fact is that portuguese can sound slavic to some people and its theorized it may be suevi influence

  • @oskar6607
    @oskar6607 4 месяца назад +1

    It would have been interesting with some etymological analysis is Suebi, if possible. What did the name mean to them?

  • @drakkendragunov4761
    @drakkendragunov4761 5 месяцев назад +3

    Kingdom of de Suebi in Spain is Galizia, Asturias, Leon, Salamanca, Zamora y North Portugal
    post with Visi Goths is Kingdom (VisiGoth) of Leon.
    And post is Kingdom de Leon and Castilla.

  • @matthewmoua8494
    @matthewmoua8494 5 месяцев назад +1

    Maroboduus was also a Roman educated German like Armenius. I was surprised how he was able to craft what was basically the first Germanic state with a pseudo capital named after himself.

  • @fenecrusader
    @fenecrusader 5 месяцев назад +3

    My family is from Swabia which originated the word from suebia

  • @henryc3067
    @henryc3067 4 месяца назад +1

    The Suebi were a confederacy of tribes. The Saxons for instance were also not a tribe but a confederacy of four tribes. Its a large mistake that many historian refer to Germanic groups as tribes when the grouping they mention is the name of the confederacy many tribes are apart of. To simplify the subject Germanic people had clans (families) which made up tribes; this tribes would form confederacies. Some of the "tribes" people mention today are actually confederacies or clans.

  • @MrDisasterboy
    @MrDisasterboy 4 месяца назад +1

    DId the Swabian Language make Galician & Portuguese different from Spanish and Catalan?

  • @JamesWells-n2s
    @JamesWells-n2s 3 месяца назад

    Really interesting. Good video. Lots of info but not boring.

  • @MistressQueenBee
    @MistressQueenBee 5 месяцев назад

    Well done, indeed! Hope this channel grows and more people are exposed to your works.

  • @scoon2117
    @scoon2117 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love your aesthetic here

  • @Thedarkmamba
    @Thedarkmamba 4 месяца назад +3

    It was mentioned , more than once, that they moved to the North of Spain after sacking Gaul. Ok why Spain and not Galaecia? If you say Gaul instead of France, why not say the correct name for the northwest part of the Iberian peninsula.
    ? Spain did not exist as such until the XV century and also it is important to state that the Suebi actually occupied far more territory of what is now the north of Portugal than what now is Galizia. Let's not confuse or mix different countries. Precision of statements is important.

  • @elijahdjinn2304
    @elijahdjinn2304 3 месяца назад +1

    Food for thought at any point did the Romans use the term suebi as a derogatory for other German inhabitants at the time??

    • @kristofschneider601
      @kristofschneider601 3 месяца назад

      That is what this video says to me. One single germanic tribe (or coalition of tribes) existing over 5 centuries is simply not possible.

  • @shipmcgree6367
    @shipmcgree6367 3 месяца назад

    Researching about the faceless factions dealt with in Total War is so interesting.

  • @baronghede2365
    @baronghede2365 3 месяца назад

    I think about Rome with skepticism and amazement, Blessed Be.

  • @flightskoo
    @flightskoo 4 месяца назад

    Comfy video ❤❤❤ wish there was more of this on RUclips

  • @BenSHammonds
    @BenSHammonds 5 месяцев назад +12

    it seems as tho they were more in tune with their Steppe roots of Indo-European cultures

    • @MikeHunt-c5p
      @MikeHunt-c5p 5 месяцев назад

      They must have come from the north and displaced or mingled with the bell breaker Celts

    • @jasrajsandhu1658
      @jasrajsandhu1658 4 месяца назад

      ​@@MikeHunt-c5pnope, zero proof of that, they never mixed with celts or beakers LMAO

    • @MikeHunt-c5p
      @MikeHunt-c5p 4 месяца назад

      @@jasrajsandhu1658 Bavaria looks half Celt to me. It's hard to turn down Celtic women

  • @poetasintierra
    @poetasintierra 4 месяца назад +1

    Farewell, Suebi People! You all will live forever in our collective western european culture and heritage

  • @dimitriwolfs9370
    @dimitriwolfs9370 Месяц назад

    Julius Cesar claimed that the bravest tribes were the Belgian tribes but they were also Menapii,Trevirii,Serving etc.. who also belonged to thr Suebi alliance

  • @marrvyn
    @marrvyn Месяц назад

    0:39 the Danube was THE border. So placing it with a substantial offset to the border of the Roman Empire is just pure sloppiness in video creation.

  • @ralfgroh2719
    @ralfgroh2719 2 месяца назад

    Outstanding presentation, thanks!

  • @MrOx85
    @MrOx85 4 месяца назад +2

    I think it's possible that "Suebi" could be a term like "Vikingr".I remember reading that they were gifted land bordering Gaul and paid by Caeser to keep the Celts in check.So they were probably raiding in the area before happening upon the Romans.I can imagine Caesar asking who they were and a tribesman replying we are "Suebi" meaning raiders/raiding and the name stuck.Its possible just saying.So many terms have been used to refer to Germanic tribes, yet I think some were lost in translation.

    • @nicechock
      @nicechock Месяц назад

      Suebi are Swebians. Sweden Goths. Sveans.

    • @brunoloureiro5321
      @brunoloureiro5321 Месяц назад

      Nothing to do with Viking, at all. Vikings only came about many centuries later.
      Their history is very well documented, at least here in Portugal. This video is just an overview, touching the most important points.
      Pretty much, the Kingdom of Portugal emerges from this older Suevi Kingdom.

  • @lindencamelback2305
    @lindencamelback2305 28 дней назад

    Question: Why did the Suebi have no writing while the Romans did? More basically, why did some groups have writing (Romans, Greeks, Jews, etc.) and others (Suebi, Saxons, Franks, etc.) did not? What are the reasons?

  • @bobopopo444
    @bobopopo444 4 месяца назад +1

    Two towns in Flanders called 'Zwevegem' and 'Zwevezele'.

  • @timothymcgee5041
    @timothymcgee5041 4 месяца назад +2

    Very well done. Thank you.

  • @TheAdrian229
    @TheAdrian229 2 месяца назад

    What's funny in Poland we have very unpolite way of calling Germans Szwaby, which comes exactly from Suebi. It was very interchangeable with the word Szkop, which means castrated Ram. Funny how some regional or historical names influence other separate language

  • @TheJourneyman58
    @TheJourneyman58 4 месяца назад

    I've never thought of the Romans since leaving school and the only other time more recently is the British Parliament pushing how great Rome is/was by highlighting Rome on new £50 and £100 Gold & Silver coinage 🤔

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252 5 месяцев назад

    Great story, the time frame was a bit scattered but informative overall. Thx. for the info. 👍

  • @danielferguson3784
    @danielferguson3784 4 месяца назад

    There were a number of Swabian units, Cohorts & Numeri, in northern Britain around Hadrian's Wall, from the 2nd/3rd centuries.

  • @Siddich
    @Siddich 5 месяцев назад +3

    Osterby is not in Southern germany as mentioned in the video. it is in northern germany.

    • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
      @Fatherofheroesandheroines 4 месяца назад +1

      I think he got confused with the area in Denmark with a similar name. As modern Denmark was in what the Romans called Germania, technically, he's right that way, though in a modern sense, yes, he's wrong.

  • @DigitalDuelist
    @DigitalDuelist Месяц назад

    I came across an account once about a Germanic king that drank only milk and was a giant. I've been trying to find it again for years

  • @Janika-xj2bv
    @Janika-xj2bv 3 месяца назад

    It was the way the Suebi learned the Vulgar Latin spoken in the Northwestern Iberian Peninsula that made the difference between the future languages Portuguese and Castillian, aka Spanish.

  • @diederickwolters8378
    @diederickwolters8378 Месяц назад

    What is missing is the history of the Langobardi in the Middle Ages. Now the story peters out a bit with only the Suebi in Galicia.

    • @JustAnotherHistoryChannel
      @JustAnotherHistoryChannel  Месяц назад +1

      You're right, I'd quite like to do a separate video on the Langobardi specifically, so I left out quite a lot of information on them in this video

  • @LionsHoney13
    @LionsHoney13 26 дней назад

    Drinking game : take a shot everytime narrator says Suebi
    *dies*