Tony Khan calls WWE the 'Harvey Weinstein of pro wrestling' | Wrestling Observer Radio
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Dave Meltzer and Garrett Gonzales discuss an NFL Network interview with Tony Khan where he compares WWE to Harvey Weinstein.
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The hell is dave rambling about
He's gotta defend the person that books his promotion to what Dave likes and only Dave.
Hell it's why the viewers are dropping. Meltzer is a small portion of the fan base
9 seconds. It took 9 seconds for Dave to interrupt knowing the guy was reading a quote and his contribution was "let me think about this one"
Dave is just a means to an end for people to voice their opinions where other people who think like them are going to be. I don't think a single commenter or viewer likes Dave
He once rambled on for about 10 minutes in one video when Alvarez finally spoke he got about ten seconds before Meltzer interrupted 😂
Why does he always do it? He talk soo much and say nothing
Entitlement issues i think@@smileyk4129
Because he's there to talk. If it bothers you so much why do you watch it and gaslight yourselves?
Him using the Weinstein line is in a way using abused women to try and get his wrestling company over.
He needs to go away.
What exactly is WWE saying? Dave says if wwe wants to say stuff. AEW has taken shots at wwe since the beginning. They want wwe to respond to so badly. AEW perpetuates all the tribalism they whine about. It’s just sad at this point.
Pepsi vs Weinstein. What a godawful analogy.
Book it
AEW is the amber heard of pro wrestling
Pretty sure that's Vinny Mac
@@darkace9194sick comeback
Considering the former owner of WWE is known for shitting. Id say they’re like amber
They shit on the bed
More so Zack Snyder
Dave is still trying to not criticize Richie Rich.
So Edge comes out with a heart felt speech about ending tribalism and appreciating all wrestling and TK sounds like aew4life247.
Edge comes out with a heart felt speech about ending tribalism **and the FED drones shit all over it.
Maybe you all should've stayed in your beloved WrestleMania instead of looking at what the neighbors are doing
It just makes no sense😂😂 punk fired for knocking over a monitor. But Tony gets assaulted on live TV and everything's all fine and dandy in all friends wrestling 😂😂
I would have responded to that line with "Do you hold an NDA over Kylie Rae?"
FOR WHAT???
@@six6thdisciple Its been wildly reported she left suddenly and was forced to sign an NDA after Jeri-slow invited her to his hotel room....
Pretty mild compared to what Vince did and hiding the Ashley Massaro grape
@@johnm140 Well we don't know what Jeri-slow tried to do to poor Kylie when she was forced to sign an NDA...
@MotherHen2012 Khan makes everyone sign NDA'S for every reason. I suspect he shot his shot, got rejected, and that was all. Not condoning it since he's married.
Remember when Adam Copeland cut that positivity promo? He must be embarrassed
We’re gonna have to cope harder than that
@@caligulalauren9071good thing they have Copeland
I remember when the FED stans went in droves to that promo to mock and tear it down 🤡
I know that AEW can never win anything with you folks, but that was the peaceful mode, if you want to be toxic then be sure to be able to endure it.
@@EddiePGRPlayer420 “Fed stans” you guys are like a parody at this point. Sad!
@@YeTism yeah yeah
I know that the FEDERATION stans don't like when WWE is referred, mentioned or even implied.
We gotta protect the Holy name 🙏🏻 😭
He’s really leaning into the injury including the piledriver. Only brain damage could justify thinking that comment was a good idea and be great for AEW.
I agree had he said Vince McMahon not WWE he probably would be getting praised.
@@jelasby2809I don't think praise would be given. It's still an incredibly cringe subject to bring up on an NFL draft show. It would have made less noise and it would have faded faster. Is it so hard for Tony just to put over his talent he has a new World Champion for crying out loud.
@@Saddler1944 100% agreed with you should have never been brought up in the 1st place.
That edge promo is aging like milk 😂
Nah bro, even milk is looking at that promo and wondering what in the actual f**k is happening.
I mean it was a rough one the moment he said it.
It’s yoghurt at this point
milk in a hot sun bro 😂😂😂
That promo is Cottage cheese of the worst quality as of today
AEW fans: stop with the tribalism let’s enjoy both shows
Tony Clown: WWE IS SATAN
😂😂😂😂
That is completely out of context. WWE is not attacking AEW fans, they are attacking the company. You as a fan have nothing to do with the animosity between aew and WWE. But here is the thing. Tony khan as the owner of aew who originally wanted to work with wwe, he is being attacked. So if he wants to be mad at WWE announcers making fun of him. Triple h talking about tk’s wrestlers. Grayson Waller saying that Jacksonville will finally get some good wrestling. Tk has a reason to lash out, not the stupid fans who want to be a tribalist.
@@shataluproductions"tribalism is ok from AEW"
what a mark 😂😂😂
WEIRD WRESTLING FANS USING INSIDER WRESTLER TERMS IS PARASOCIAL
@@keni95851 tribalism isn’t ok no matter which wrestling company you like. Looks like you didn’t understand what I said. That just shows your bias towards one company.
@shataluproductions looks like you're a mark who thinks it's great for one company to s*it on the other but not vice versa
Dave is almost as embarrassing here as TK’s NFL interview wtf smh
So Dave is Tony's source 😂😂😂
I wonder what Edge thinks about this interview? Making his whole speech redundant.
All Friends/EVP's Observer
If aew dies it's fully on Tony Khan being the worst pr guy of all time lmao
Ah yes that WWE public relations is doing great. Remind me of what the lawsuit they’re the defendant in currently accuses them of again? Oh and why did their chairman of 40 years suddenly “retire” again?
I mean they are doing great they've moved the company forward despite the lawsuit that's literally the job of PR. The public perception of the company is a net positive right now. Meanwhile Tony continues to look like the jealous little brother. I watch wrestling shows I don't watch court sessions
@@bigpablo673 yeah sure, the shit is hitting the fan. TKO are going to have to clean house and soon.
People keep saying this and that about Tony Khan but what did he say that wasn’t true? WWE are a slimy company. They can only brush so many victims under the carpet before it all comes crashing down. They got away with Rita Chatterton, they got away with Tom Cole, they smeared Ashley Massaro after her death but we now know what they are or at least what they were for 40 years.
WWE are TERRIFIED of any lawsuit going to discovery (it’s why they settled with MLW) as their business practices are shady.
@@bigpablo673 Have you asked anyone who isn't a wrestling mark like us what they think of WWE? Outside your bubble? Cuz normal people don't give a shit about better booking-- and it's only gonna get worse as more and more "shit" comes out about him and his enablers.
@@bigpablo673court sessions on wrestling TV? Wtaf are you talking about
Tony Khan closes the refrigerator door with his hip and says "boop".
Yeah, he's not a real man like this guy...
11992: Rita Chatterton comes forward alleging McMahon raped her in 1986
1992: Vince is accused of turning a blind eye to rampant sexual misconduct in the WWF
1992: Vince suspected a ring announcer had a 'peculiar and unnatural' relationship with children
1992: McMahon's role in Jimmy Snuka evading domestic violence and potentially murder charges revealed
2006: Tanning salon employee files a police report against McMahon alleging forcible groping
2022: Whistleblower email kicks off hush money/non-disclosure agreement investigation
2022: The Wall Street Journal uncovers three more settlements, including from a former talent alleging sexual assault
2022: Paul London accuses McMahon of sexually harassing Ashley Massaro
2022: The Wall Street Journal discovers a spa manager who alleges McMahon assaulted her in 2011 and intends to sue under new California law
😄😄
Lmao
Hahahahahahahaha
LMAO 🤣😂😂😂🤣 I LAUGHED TOO HARD AT THIS
The worst thing to ever happen to Tony Khan was Vince leaving.
Nah man, competition is good for wrestlers and wrestling, that's what I care about.
Punk surely?
Punk wouldn't have walked up to Moxley like that.
Moxley is an indy clown that believes the Meltzer hype
Tony clown 😂😂😂😂
Tiny Clown, Khanye The Snowman ❄️
Wow, you really tried hard with that one.
Tony Khan is the worst part of AEW.
It's either him or the fanbase
All of their problems are rooted in him
Seems like he took that rating and insult this week hard lol. He's so mad
Amen brotha
AEW is not the Pepsi of pro wrestling. It's the half empty RC Cola you left outside and now it's got bees in it... of pro wrestling
Bro sounds mad.
@EddiePGRPlayer420 triggered mark is triggered about someone who likes one crap TV show over his crap TV show 😂
@@keni95851 can't be more triggered than the resident troll that dislikes both yet has to bark around the comment section for a bit of attention.
Guess the shower won't cut it this time. 🚿
@EddiePGRPlayer420 yes me laughing at the marks pretending they're in some war fought between a bunch of billionaires means in "triggered" 🤣🤣🤣 cope and seethe mark
@@EddiePGRPlayer420 🤣🤣
Dave bends over backwards to support anyone who isn’t WWE every time
he criticized tony right here in this video and he praises wwe... do you have brain worms or something?
Why should he cheerlead for a greedy corporation that tries to destroy all competition?
@@duckmercy11 it’s his personal preference to cheer for who ever he wants but he portrays himself as an unbiased reporter. You think if AEW were as big as WWE they wouldn’t also try to destroy all competition?
You sure? @3:46
Which part of this discussion sounded like Dave supporting AEW? Lol
Of course Dave will defend this.
"I wish he hadn't said it" is defending it... sure
@@kuhpunkt and then proceeds to justify it saying he has to defend himself from bullying.
@@justinwilson6125awww the poor 40 year old billionaire is being bullied
@@justinwilson6125
WWE fans defend Vince ffs.
Also,
Good work proving the other guy right.
@@TheHardys01show me one WWE fan defending Vince from s3xual allegations? If there is proof that he did it, he should get the harshest punishment. Show me one fan who doesn't say what I said.
Tony Khlown had to be the biggest goof in modern wrestling history 😂😂
You all say this but none of you say he’s wrong. Because he isn’t wrong is he. WWE are currently the defendant in a lawsuit about sexual abuse.
@@MrRyanlennie2005 I don't care about any of that. The only wrestling content I consume is the adventures of Tony khlown
@@MrRyanlennie2005who cares, Tony is an embarrassing dweeb 😂
@MrRyanlennie2005 aw so u refuse to watch aew with Chris Jericho being a prominent champion since you are such a champion of protecting yourself from companies currently promoting sexual predators?
@@MrRyanlennie2005Who specifically in WWE?
"WWE is the Harvey Weinstein of pro wrestling!"
... Why'd you make Kylie Rae sign an NDA, Tony?
WHEN DID TONY MAKE KYLIE RAE SIGN A NDA???…OR ARE U JUST KEEPING A LIE GOING LIKE FEMALE 💅🏻💯???
@@six6thdisciple Stop yelling bitch. 😂
@@six6thdiscipleTony is now officially catering to incels like this. It’s just sad.
@@andrewglidewell2699he always catered to incels. Who else would watch his show on a regular basis?
Unbelievable
Your channel is unbelievable you clown 🤡
TK really feels super jealous and immature. That's not a good attitude. Just focus on yourself, don't be looking at what people say or what other companies do. Just focus on your company
"Bow down your head, never say something remotely controversial, oh but be sure to just take whatever criticism, jab or comment they make at you on the chin."
Never thought that WWE fans were such 🐈😸 that their beloved company has to be treated with gloves and pincers
Tony has entered his Eric Bischoff era, where it’s no longer about putting on a good show, it’s only about trying to outdo WWE. At least Eric actually managed to do to for a short period of time.
Bischoff is was and always will be way more successful than Tony Khan will ever be. Bischoff revolutionized professional wrestling, and changed television forever.
@@crutchddaddy95EB killed wrestling.
@@labeebulshah8424 This is the dumbest statement I have ever read.
@@crutchddaddy95He literally helped drive TWO DIFFERENT wrestling companies into the shitter. He hasn't been relevant in over a decade, and hasn't done anything good in 25+ 😂
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 Spot on.
Tony Khan is a PR nightmare for his own company. Too bad he can't fire himself.
How? What wrong with that he said?
@@smileyk4129 Its Fucking stupid, and embarrasing. This dude is killing his own promotion. People just dont like this guy, and he wont shut up and now nobody is watching
Yes, the man who calls out the rAplst is a PR Nightmare.
Not the rAplst himself.......
The logic yu folks use...
@@smileyk4129does ur brain not work?
@@juliuspryce8514 works perfectly
Tony Khan “ WWE is the Harvey Weinstein of pro wrestling.”
With Vince,, that’s 100% on the nose but he’s gone now. If Tony is such a good guy compared to the evil people running WWE, why not be fully transparent with what happened with Kylie Rae. If she signed an NDA, what were you afraid of or who were you protecting?
Did she bring up sexual harassment to you about a top talent and you being a spineless person give her hush money instead of firing said person. What does that make you then Tony? Throwing stones in a glass house is what those comments sound like.
Glad you know what the nda said. If there is an nda Jericho should sue her. She wasnt forced to sign anything..but just let that lil fact slip.
@@Mike-qz4bythe existence of an NDA is already enough cause for suspicion that someone did something wrong. And if that’s the case I doubt Kylie Rae was the perpetrator
@@Mike-qz4bythe nda exists, that's cause of suspicion. Same way Vince is 90% guilty. We have to let the trial come and have a conclusion but we for the most part know.
“He’s gone now”….yeah all that’s left is a bunch of people who learnt everything they know about WWE and the business of wrestling from him.
Are you unironically arguing that we are entitled to publicly be given the information regarding...... *a legally binding non-disclosure agreement?* Hint: the answer's in the fucking name
It's so hard to like and watch AEW when this stuff is constantly happening. Tony Khan wants us to just “enjoy wrestling” while all he and his talent do is throw gasoline on the tribalism fire. There a bunch of hypocrites.
Yep
Tony Khan is so cringe. WWE is on fire right now and AEW would be able to get some of those eyeballs if they weren’t constantly shitting on WWE and looking small time.
Just do your thing with an insanely talented roster.
Even as an AEW fan this is getting really exhausting. Can we just focus on ourselves? The toxicity between fans online is bad enough, do the people producing the wrestling have to throw fuel on the fire like this?
Tony & AEW (like Copelands promo) come out and say enough with the negativity, and complain about tribalism - but nobody is doing more to further the tribalism and fan the flames than Tony himself.
Xbox/Microsoft doesnt come out and try to slam Sony. I haven’t heard Pepsi comparing Coke to sexual predators. The optics are bad and instantly makes you look way less than, someone who is swinging up.
@@FasuloATony thinks it’s till 1999 and that his edgy nonsense is still going to attract a large audience. Even in the face of the face that’s it’s running people off.
Can't wait to see how Jim Valley defends it this time 🙄
Tony knows he needs to mention WWE for eyes
@@bigpablo673 But he simply doesn't. AEW's viewers stay in roughly the same spot. It's a smaller but dedicated fan base. Taking shots at WWE clearly does not bring in casuals, at least not in any consistent or meaningful way.
All it does is feed the stupid WWE Vs AEW discourse online. It's played out and it's boring. TK should know better, HHH should know better.
AEW is like the ‘juggalo championship wrestling’ of pro wrestling
Herb Abrams 2.0
The clown honestly said this while having the likes of Ric Flair, Chris Jericho and Jay Lethal under contract, after paying the likes of Jimmy Havok and Joey Ryan. Then there's Sammy Guevara and his comments about a now co-worker. Lets not forget Ospreay blackballing the women who came out against his friends during the entire Speaking Out incident. Lot of things Tony turns a blind eye to.
What'd Jay lethal did
Jericho did nothing. Why are people so rtd
@@zerozeerosget one ounce of self awareness you nerd
@@zerozeeros it's an indefensible position to be in for a WWE "mark/drone" and they get furious about it because it's something they cannot say " ratings / attendance" and six clown face emojis and be done with it. So clearly Jericho = Vince
Yeah if WWE is Weinstein then AEW is Cosby. Maybe, Tony, don't draw attention to the problem of predation in wrestling if you also allow it in your company.
Imagine actually still defending and supporting Tony Khan at this point. Lol
Just the imagery of Tony Khan in a neckbrace firing shots at another company in a TV interview should be embarrassing to every wrestling fan. It's just so disappointing that the supposed smart wrestling fans and the self-proclaimed best wrestling show just consistently look amateurish and clumsy. If it's so good, why isn't it very good? If it's so successful, why isn't it very successful? I gave AEW a good, long chance because I've seen a lot of bad wrestling in my life and hoped for the best, but this guy more and more feels closer to what it would be like if Jay Leno had a wrestling show. Just a total outsider with no instincts, and embarrassing to anyone that takes the business seriously.
Dave still defending him just so sad
Look at dave trying to make excuses for tony khan
Please show me when Vince went on Twitter to bash the competition
He had already destroyed the industry by the time twitter was invented.
I know yu were like 5 when twitter came out, so I don't blame yu for not knowing.
Tony probably fed Dave the AFL line, come on. 🤡
Don't know who's more delusional, Meltzer or Khan.
I need one person to explain to me how the comment has anything to do with the neck brace.
Like, i get it, but let's stop pretending like mentioning that the opposition exists is a bad thing.
WWE Brain rot got y'all thinking that pretending to be the only game in town (except when you throw subliminal shade like a mean girl or a Canadian rapper) is the RIGHT way to be.
AEW is a challenger brand. It's a disrupter. This is what challenger brands do. They talk shit about the leading brand.
Take the Pepsi challenge.
Sega does what Nintendon't.
Where's the beef?
I'm a Mac(I'm a PC).
Literally every wireless network commercial for like a decade.
If you want to critique the line for being bad or whatever, fine that's one thing. But acting like it's bad because he acknowledged that WWE exists feels overly reactionary
Every company you mentioned is a distant 2nd at best to their competitor. Shows what great faith you have in AEW.
It’s also fine to critique your competitors when you have your own house in order. When your shrinking is not the time to criticize other boats.
Sad… just do your thing and don’t worry about the other guys.
I know you don't do any research Meltzer but lol jfc. It wasn't "Pat McAfee".
It was Ty Schmidt who critiqued, playing as Mad Mel.
And Pat did his whole show in the same neck brace clueless cohost after Wargames
You know. Whatever. You know. Uh. Uhm. You know. Uhm. But uhm. Whatever. $9.95 please.
why do you listen then?
@@kuhpunkt for the inadvertent humor and hubris of pompous Dave obviously. And I would NEVER ever pay that man.
@@anthonyv9324 That's just dumb. There's no other way to describe it.
I’m just here to complain
@@kuhpunkt Sorry , do you actually ENJOY listening to that weird old man struggling to construct a coherent sentence ? He would cure insomnia . As for why people listen , maybe is their choice to do so ? Doesn't mean they can't state facts about boring Meltzer . Or is that too sensible for your brain to compute ?
What a clown
Instead of using the massive NFL platform to promote his company and put his talent over, he decided to make a defamatory statement about the WWE. If Endeavor decides to take legal action, Tony has no one to blame but himself. What a clown.
How?
@dustatwood because innocent people are being lumped I'm to a pedo .. imagine if hhh said aew is rapist because of sammy saying he wanted to raaape sasha .. it wouldn't be fair to literally everyone else who's just there wanted to accomplish there dreams ..
nfl decided to ask him about wwe for some reason instead of the jaguars of aew... Tony responded accordingly
And he also hilariously forgot that WWE itself regularly "uses the massive NFL platform to promote...". Just last week they had Steelers players in the front row who were highlighted in the show as they often do with other athletes/celebrities. And they have constant brand deals like the (honestly pretty sweet looking) NFL Team Title Belts.
But that's because WWE is a business, and AEW is someone role-playing that they run a business.
There's nothing actionable about what he said.
Tony Khan is the Herb Abrams of the 21st century
I’ve been saying that for a while now I’m glad it’s not just me
Herb actually had a modicum of ability.
Who's that bozo you dorks keep quoting?
Someone from the Dinosaur era of Rasslin'?
@@EddiePGRPlayer420 look him up lots of similarities
@@EddiePGRPlayer420 The Golden Era.
Not all attention is good attention
Tony wearing the neck brace was great, but goodness I am disappointed. He was on an international news show and he could have just plugged AEW, talked about how things are shaping up for the return to Wembley after breaking a record last year and all the acquisitions he got and put over the journey of AEW and surviving the pandemic as a new company but pretty much just said we are number 2 and number 1 are the bad guys. This was such a great opportunity to let people know AEW exists and promote, why resort to WWE slander instead is beyond me.
He did plug AEW, repeatedly. They showed a clip from Dynamite on the show, he mentioned Dynamite is on Wednesdays on TBS, he also mentioned Collision is on TNT on Saturdays. When the hosts pressed him for a prognosis from his doctors about his “injury” he told them they’d need to watch AEW in the coming weeks.
What more do you want?
Also it’s not “slander”.
WWE is the defendant in an ongoing legal case about sexual abuse in their headquarters.
Their chairman of 40 years just left under a cloud and they’ve tried to distance themselves from him as he’s a rapist. That same chairman has just hired Harvey Weinstein’s PR firm to try and defend him in the press and smear the victims.
If you think going on a real sports show to address nfl fans wearing a fake neck brace is any way a good thing for khan, aew, or pro wrestling - you’re in a dullard wrestling bubble. You have no awareness of how that looks to sports fans. Worse, the very few non wrestling. Fans who go look at the clip of Tony will see the most absurd clip - of flopping like a rag doll Tony, and a ring full of people who couldn’t last 1 min in an nfl game.
because deep down he is still a message board mark
It's not slander if it's true.
If WWE is Harvey Weinstein, Tony Khan is Jussie Smollett, and Vince McMahon is Amber Heard.
These comments would have been considered okay , if he had made them before brawl out 2022
Or during 2020-2021(when vince was there). Right now , it all seems like he wants some payback for cm punk comments or hhh slight digs. Hope he moves on from this
Tony Khlown will never stop, because all he wants is for the WWE to acknowledge he exists and that will never happen.
People who actively covered up the Vince shit still work in WWE.
@@dsadams17you have the list of names? You should start a petition
Dave comparing Tony to Andy Kaufman lol…. i never seen somebody with a bigger smile wearing a neckbrace 🤣 selling it hard.
When is TK going to address the Chris Jericho allegations? Jericho is the Harvey Weinstein of his promotion after all.
No, Ric Flair is 😂
Lol if jericho is the Harvey weinstien of wrestling what does that make nick khan...you do know his agency covered up the accusations made against Harvey weinstien right? That's why he came running to wwe once he got a chance....but you guys don't like to hear the truth cause the truth hurts
Doesn't this contradict the Adam Copeland "positivity" promo of just enjoy wrestling?
Maybe if the FED marks didn't go shit all over the promo like they were personally attacked by it. 🤷🏻
Bros want to shit on AEW ? Let's give them a reason to.
Based Khan.
@@EddiePGRPlayer420based on idiocy
TK only did this because he can't draw a million viewers on his own show so he did it on the nfl network 😂😊
Tony has lived long enough to see himself become a villain 😂
Damn straight. He's just as bad.. he's objectively worse then this guy:
1992: Rita Chatterton comes forward alleging McMahon raped her in 1986
1992: Vince is accused of turning a blind eye to rampant sexual misconduct in the WWF
1992: Vince suspected a ring announcer had a 'peculiar and unnatural' relationship with children
1992: McMahon's role in Jimmy Snuka evading domestic violence and potentially murder charges revealed
2006: Tanning salon employee files a police report against McMahon alleging forcible groping
2022: Whistleblower email kicks off hush money/non-disclosure agreement investigation
2022: The Wall Street Journal uncovers three more settlements, including from a former talent alleging sexual assault
2022: Paul London accuses McMahon of sexually harassing Ashley Massaro
2022: The Wall Street Journal discovers a spa manager who alleges McMahon assaulted her in 2011 and intends to sue under new California law
Only he was never the hero we needed, wanted or asked for. He was the hero in his own mind
@@BePatient888so you’re saying Tony was right to go on TV and make fun of all the women you just mentioned ?
@@BePatient888the guy that has literally nothing to do with the company anymore?
@@BePatient888So Vince bad means it’s okay to exploit it to take a cheap shot at someone you are mad at because you can’t actually compete with them?
It would be one thing if Tony actually cared about women or their experience in the wrestling business. But he doesn’t. He’s mad about his show doing a bad rating and lashing out. If he cared he wouldn’t use their abuse to promote his show, and he wouldn’t employ multiple people accused or abuse.
Exactly. Man hired ric flair for christ sake
It’s hilarious that WWE isn’t even acknowledging that absolute goofball.
WWE takes shots at AEW on a daily basis. They just do it through other people like Pat McAfee, Booker T, Kevin Nash, Bully Ray, Eric Bischoff, Sam Roberts, Ariel Helwani, Road Dogg, and others. All of these people mentioned are paid by WWE in one fashion or another.
@@Booth55555how do you get through the day?
@@Booth55555 Tony Khan is the owner of AEW. You mentioned people who have legends contracts, are just retired and of course, pat mcafee. Do you understand the difference? Podcasters aren’t taking marching orders from WWE execs, they just arrive at similar opinions because AEW does consistent goofy sh*t.
@@Booth55555What about Big Foot? And the Loc Ness Monster? Or the Illuminati? Do they “attack” AEW every day, too? Lunatic.
@@paulofreire9174 Exactly either he is simple or a blithering idiot
Since they showed the punk/perry stuff as part of the story line, this TK attack thing has it where going forward TK would fire/suspend them. If not, then TK is not “scared for his life” of them, so who else would be. If the plan was to do this attack angle, making the other incident part of the story before made zero sense
Bingo. Fired a guy for starting a fight in real life and suspended the other guy involved. Now he was assaulted on TV and nothing will happen.
@@UncomfortableShoesand NDAE DUB DUBS lap it up, because they are stupid
@@UncomfortableShoesReal life stuff that happened as a result of the video is non-canon, it's kayfabe ya knuckle-draggers 😂 CM Punk's lunging at TK and getting fired are not a part of the storyline in any way thus far. You're trying to make it make sense with what happened off-screen, you do know this is wrestling right?!
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 yeah the problem is Tony used real life footage in this storyline and so he made it part of the story. He also didn’t quietly let Punk go, he made a big announcement about it and said his famously stupid “I feared for my life” comments. So now when he’s “assaulted” on tv by three guys the internal logic of the show is trash. There’s a reason the ratings have been declining along with live attendance. Insult me all you want but I’m not hurting this company, Tony is. He’s steering the ship in the wrong direction.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 it is part of the story though, that’s where the Scapegoat thing comes from. If you take the consequences of that video out of story line, then Scapegoat makes no sense.
Are we seriously watching Dave not criticise the Harvey Weinstein comment
Tony Khan accelerating his companies own downfall. He doesn't conduct himself like the "Head of Football" for a Premier League team or Head of an NFL franchise. Typical rich manchild playing with his daddy's funds.
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones
He didn't rape anyone 🤣
@MBeats27 get rid of all of those NDAs and see what comes out
@@MBeats27 He employees plenty of people who did though. 🤷♂
AEW is the virgin cola of pro wrestling lol. Was sad to hear meltzer try and justify this
The difference is that Andy Kaufman was a talented comedian, and kayfabe wasnt totally dead. Tony is a legit business man who says he doesnt want to be a tv character, and everyone knows he isnt really hurt. Its not the same
It not going to do nothing but continue to make Tony look bad..
Vince McMahon is the Anakin Skywalker of Pro Wrestling. He helped bring the business into the mainstream, but then he became Darth Vader in 2001.
Khan is a boy in love with the bucks
You know it’s bad when Dave says anything remotely negative about AEW or Tony.
Let's hear them complain about tribalism again. Go ahead, Tony Khan. How'd that whole Jericho issue get resolved, by the way?
How bout it’s just a stupid statement seeing how he has and has had talent who have done some questionable things. Pretty sure they’ve had rapists on their show.
The leader of the 'Tism Tribe.... NDAE DUB NDAE DUB
The problem I have is that, even if TK is 1000% right? He's giving WWE way too much time in his headspace when he should be focused on his own promotion. And I can never shake the feeling that if he can devote this much time and effort into taking cheap shots at WWE, he could have taken two seconds to lean over to Punk at the scrum and say, "Hey, why don't NOT make everyone here, including yourself, look bad, and finish talking crap when you're not in front of the camera?" But since he couldn't do that, and still hasn't learned from it, everything feels too little too late. And if nothing else, Punk calling him a poor boss feels very accurate now.
He can’t get over the fact they view him as Shad’s idiot son… spent millions of dollars to get quarter full arenas and less than 700k viewers
@@karlm641well Nick clearly said that Tony was still a kid. So yeah, he got his feelings hurt.
Tiny is the troll-looking, ‘medicated’ nerd of all wrestling, NFL football, and the English Premiership…
I wonder just how hard they laugh when he leaves a room…you KNOW they can’t look at him seriously while he is unblinking and wiping the medicine away from his nose
Wouldn’t WCW ‘97 be the hottest alternative in sports since the pre-merger AFL?
He said startup...not alternative.... WCW was older than WWF at the time because their lineage ties in with NWA and Mid south
@@therealjd4life But I’d say it becomes a new company/start-up when Turner buys it in ‘88. Mid-Atlantic/Jim Crockett Promotions were different companies entirely, even if the roots of WCW were found there.
@@therealjd4lifetechnically, WCW was a start-up.
He was on the big platform and instead of putting over the many talent on AEW. He wanted to take shots at WWE. Very TNA shit right there.
TNA didn't get that much of an audience like the NFL...Road dogg and Billy Gunn did it but nobody saw it...if Tony put over swerve or Ospreay nobody would remember it but Harvey Weinstein comment made headlines, I admire him for it....I did the same thing in my field years ago but I backed it up...Tony needs to back it up...
@@therealjd4life The problem is they aren't directly competing with WWE. I understand what Dave is saying "Well they did it in the 90s" yeah but TNA did it and it never helped them in any form. It's not the 90s anymore. Plus the pot shots never helped WCW and WWF in the wrestling wars anyways besides like maybe the DX invasion of WCW thing but besides that the only thing that worked was building stars and good product. Tony just spent a bunch of money on Osprey, Okada, and Mone. If he actually wants to take a shot at WWE he needs to take talent from them that wasn't fired or never was on WWE TV. It's nothing against Osprey or Okada they are both great and Osprey is doing great stuff but I have already seen them in AEW before coming anyways. If they want to do some moves actually do some moves.
Yeah. Let's not forget Shat McAfee being WWE's good little loudspeaker, throwing out all the insults and shit talking.
@@therealjd4life I assume you’re talking about the field of living in your parents basement
@@andrewglidewell2699My field is to collect the rent from you living there and your ass is evicted ...my parents are dead anyway...they fell off a cliff and died on impact
I dont have a problem with veiled jabs here and there, but that was a full blown insult on national tv which came of low class and petty.
This is very very sad
Like punk said - " not a real business". Aew may go under 600k regularly in the future. SHITSHOW
Edge : We're moving on!
Wrong time to say something like that. Right now is a happy time for American wrestling fans. Wwe significantly improved and finally got to the point again where I feel many want to see how stories continue on so attacking WWE like that now is just wrong. I understand it is competition but talk about how great aew is. Talk about the new champions of swerve Strickland and Willow nightingale. Talk about how aew is a buffet of wrestling where you have more authentic lucha, Japanese strong style, and British technical wrestling matches. How there is countless surprises with some wrestlers making special one off appearances like Rob van dam. WWE is doing really good right now so you won't have many siding with you with attacking it as a whole. That is why talk the positives of your own company and try to entice people to watch your show. Mentioning swerve and Willow may have gotten someone to look them up and then tune in to watch because they were interested in seeing them
"I probably wrote that before he used it!"
Dave really doesn't understand that he's AEW's minister of propaganda, does he?
I just feel sorry for Tony Khan to be honest. He has money and little talent and is indulging in his passions. Which is football, wrestling and cocaine.
He's trying to draw up heat for a product colder than ice and overstepped the mark as he doesn't know where the line is. Because of a lack of talent.
There's loads of things to bash him for, but to be honest this isn't really a standout one. It's just one stupid comment in a sea of stupid things he's done.
Meltzer on the other hand... it's astonishing how much of a joke he is at this point.
This man has been holding himself back and sabotaging his life ever since Punk got released. It almost feels like he doesn't know how to get people's attention anymore so he has no other choice but to actively harass wwe..
He just gave more content to other wrestling podcasts. They are all gonna have a blast laughing on his video
Hey the people who enjoy those podcasts also get to laugh as well. I hope AEW lives forever. They feeding everyone good week to week with memes.
@@Saddler1944I do too, not only do they give podcasters content. They also keep guys like Danielson there so they cannot further contaminate WWE.
Won't someone PLEASE think about the poor grifters?
Does tony not relise that people watching the daft dont give AF about wrestling and how bad it looks on him and all the companies saying stuff like that its not how a real boss acts operates!! And trying to say hes being the wresting character on a real sports channel wont wash in court 100%!!
Tony khan will inherit billions of dollars in future
And yet the man has a inferiority complex
Why is he so cringe
Remember meltzer , a year ago you called him much smarter than bischoff😂
I am sure this is not the last time in 2024 , that tony made stupid comments
Still 8 months to go and hopefully more meltdowns coming
Meltzer and tony are major reasons for tribalism in wrestling
Also meltzer don't go on defensive mode on twitter while you defend aew , cause it only makes them look bad
Hard to not have an inferiority complex when your success is predicated off of your dad’s wealth; and you have shown yourself to be completely socially inept. Take Shad out of the equation and Tony is an anon dork being edgy on message boards.
Can't do anything about genetics. He is short and he is dumb (don't know where dumbness comes from). He also seems extremely cowardly.
The problem is he acts holier than thou. No one likes that
He's not wrong but he had Mike Tyson and Ric Flair on AEW
A lot of comparisons to WCW 2000, but for me this feels more like TNA 2011.
More specifically the Immortal "Therrrre Herrrre" era.
I already fell for that crap once, no way I'm sitting through it all over again with AEW 2024.
Didn't wrestling media and fans in general say that after Ospreay went after HHH and the Punk footage was aired that they hoped AEW had gotten this out of their system? And now this? Tony and AEW can't help themselves and if you check social media, the hardcore AEW fans love it and want it to continue. It's as if they hate WWE more than they love AEW. Couple that with AEW fans celebrating when it was announced Punk needed surgery and this tribalism has begun to resemble political tribalism where my side is noble and right and your side is evil and wrong. Such bizarre behavior. If fans believe celebrating injuries and bringing up rape is a gotcha that's going to get more viewers to AEW programming, it ain't going to work.
Really hating this Tony guy now 😬😬😬
Softie
Making a blanket statement like TK did calling WWE "The Harvey Weinstein" of Pro Wrestling, when Vince is not with WWE anymore, is just asking for a lawsuit from WWE. 🤦🏻♂
Can we just admit Dave Melzter actually runs AEW and Tony Khan is the money mark.
Dave saying this is the Andy Kauffman angel is comical. People actually believed Andy was hurt. Nobody believes Tony is hurt.
It was also before the internet and in the early 80s. You know it ain’t real right? 😂
@@Phantom7inCH no shit Sherlock. Like you really thought this was a killer response lol
How come when WWE takes shots at AEW everyone thinks it’s funny and great but when AEW does it people are like “how sad and pathetic!”
I guess because when you use the rape and abuse of women to try and promote wrestling it makes you kinda sad and pathetic.
Because it is done by sad and pathetic people from sheer delusion
There's a major difference between taking a petty shot and calling a place the Harvey Weinstein of pro wrestling
Caues they soft over there real ladyboys
Because rape isn't funny
"WWE has done a good job of PR" bro, WWE is named in the lawsuit. Specifically.
yep, so it's the fault of everyone in WWE. FIRE AUSTIN THEORY! HE WAS VINCES PROTOGE!
It honestly seems like you don’t know what PR means.
Being in the lawsuit and still getting food to great press on a consistent basis is good PR.
Tony needs to be removed immediately
Why waste valuable time talking about the other company. Plus, id imagine that clip isnt going to get much replay because of the Weinstein comment. Especially since dudes charges got overturned