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13:32 Taking a break is actually scientifically supported. There's two ways your brain can learn skills, and it literally won't start developing the second phase of learning until you've stopped and given it some time to cook. I forget where, but I saw a video on it from one of those science communicators. I think lol.
Jmcrofts teaching two people recently how to Marvel, maybe we could see a third with Doki if she’s interested 😉🤔 Toxic MvC2 doki could go kinda hard icl
Okay now do the reverse, I wanna see you try some infinites from Smash :p Melee: Ice Climbers, hand-off chain grab Brawl: Diddy Kong, single nanner infinite PM: Ivysaur, flop lock (and with an opponent who SDIs, please!) (haven't played S4 or Ultimate, they probably have some nasty stuff as well though) Those are some of the more advanced though. If you need some more entry-level stuff so the video has a ramp up in difficulty like the one Coney went through: Melee: -Fox shine infinite against a wall -Ice Climbers wobbling Brawl: Dedede infinite against DK
Smash 4 has a few funny things with jablocks and stuff, the one i immediately thought of was the falcon custom move infinite where you have to choose the falcon kick that stuns and then footstool, falcon kick and turn around to footstool falcon kick again The unpatched Ultimate Infinite i think of would be the joker drill reps under the platform
There's a couple infinites in the smash series. You can learn wobbling in 30 seconds lol, but there are plenty of other infinites in the series. Smash 64 first hit up air loops, fox waveshines on some characters in melee alongside wobbling, smash brawl chain grabs (coney would been very happy to show you Dedede down throw lmao). Smash 4 had some customs that allowed footstool combos to be infinite, and Smash ultimate had the infamous "pyramid scheme" combo, and the "lefoble"
Regarding the intro, while it’s hard for me to think of an infinite from a traditional fighting game that would be as well known as the Iron Man Infinite (I don’t think anything like New Gen Ibuki, Lightning Loops, or *insert anything Iori has ever done in any game ever here* have as much notoriety as the tutorial), I feel like wobbling has to overtake it in general doesn’t it? Like I feel like just due to how much larger smash is more people get exposed to wobbling by default.
Coney probably is every fgc coaches wet dream, he might not hit top shelf but I think he got the potential to make it way further than most his experience
I love that this collection coming out has gotten more people exposed to these games. That's what these collections are for and I'm glad to see people like you helping to bring in people from different communities to try something like this. Coney is such a good choice for this, too, because he seems like a guy who is up to at least try most things and he vibes with people very easily.
I feel like turnabout is fair play, and Coney can show JMcrofts some smash combos to try, there's a TOD in each game that should be easy to learn: 64 falcon juggle up airs into up B, melee wobbling, brawl icy chain grab, 4 Bayo nonsense, ult kazuya electric TOD. Maybe if you wanna get spicy for melee do marth's chain grab or shiek RTC if croft finds that other stuff too easy (he won't). EDIT: Actually show JMCrofts the DK chaingrab on FD, I think he'd genuinely love doing that one, and since the up airs auto cancel he won't even have to learn to L cancel.
No, it's "NOW GO UP! NOW GO DIAGONAL!" Coney hasn't seen the pre-Evo 2020 arc of white FGC content creators attempting to do the full 59 hit combo into DHC, he needs to consider himself lucky JM didn't insist on that. 😂
I think Smash implicitly requires a ton of technical execution, given the varying run/walk speeds and aerial mobility. Because of SDI, combos aren’t strictly muscle memory and you still have to react between hits not only by rhythm, but by position
Great stuff. To get the super easier on the iron man infinite u want to do two reps with neutral jump to space urself out then land and do HP > Proton cannon.
Watching Coney fall into the same exact trap I do when there's a noticeable delay. He's delaying the move immediately AFTER the one he's supposed to delay once he gets in the practice rythm
The Fabletics clothes look surprisingly nice, and with the jacket zipped up, you look like a movie bouncer. Just flex and add sunglasses to complete the look
Yes they can, even new players can do it if they practice. This idea that new players can't play marvel 2 and sf3 is dumb as hell they all human and it's gatekeeping. People play the soul series because it's difficult as fuck. That doesn't stop them from playing it. This isnt against this video btw love the work!
I honestly don’t understand why people hate on Smash players. It’s not like they don’t have absurdly specific crazy shit they do with their thumbs. I don’t see how they CANT learn to play standard versus fighters
Can a smash player do an infinite? I’ve been playing smash since it came out and I’ve been playing mvc2 on Dreamcast. I’ve learned iron man infinite by watching online and bam. Come on mang! It’s not that bad
and ive played spiderman in these games my ENTIRE life. the infinite is mshvsf is actually pretty tricky, but once you get the timing down its no problem
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Hungry box do a infinity please
Fabletics looks legit 👌
Can a smash "commentator" do an infinite
UPDATE I never finished the combo
why is your camera is ASS ASS here
Just do the f*ckin infinite dood idk what the problem is
Come on, Coney, keep the rhythm up!
Need more falcon punches
NOW HIT UP. NOW GO DIAGONAL. NOW HIT UP. NOW GO DIAGONAL
I've seen Coney's Dee Jay. I know his ass doesn't have any rhythm
WAIT LULW
Lmaooo 😂
OOF
Loving Coney’s new FGC arc
Oh chatter...
New ?
@@numa2k147 his post-slam regular non-smash fighting game content
This @@alexonstott4954
This is the 2nd jmcrofts and coney video i hope we get more
I need it
My two favorite middle aged white guys in one video. I can rest easy now 😌
HEY, MIDDLE AGED!?! I’LL BE THE JUDGE OF THAT!!!
@@roadhoundd. OLD BUT GOLD AMIRITE?!?? 😂😂😂 R U OKAY?!? BUSTAH WOLFE!
@@markmessi9020that was so random lmao 😂
Bro they’re not even 40
Invite brawlpro 3rd best personality in fgc
Came for the infinite stayed for the Croft swag...
i love you GuileWinQuote
Can guilewinquote do an infinite???
Please do a video about your arcades
Before watching, my immediate thought was "Can a Smash player do it? Yeah probably. Can CONEY do it? Not a chance"
edit: I'm so proud of my streamer
Coneys admittedly pretty cracked at games
I think the ideal player for this kind of thing are IC mains
@@ellachino4799Dedede does have infinites in Brawl
Seeing the guy jmcroft in casual clothes reminds me that this man not only puts me on fg tech but he also be putting that shit on. That’s my dawg fr
Aww he liked this comment. YOU GOT THAT SHIT ON BROTHER
I didnt know he can rock a fit like that
What a simp
13:32 Taking a break is actually scientifically supported. There's two ways your brain can learn skills, and it literally won't start developing the second phase of learning until you've stopped and given it some time to cook. I forget where, but I saw a video on it from one of those science communicators. I think lol.
Extremely true. I hope all fighting gamers have noticed the incredible power of a well-timed 5-10 minute break.
Should have taken a break. Could have been able to remember where you heard it.
light punch...
medium punch...
light kick...
heavy punch...
smash 'player' is being very generous, thank you for showing him kindness
ITS
CONEY
TI-
gorilla voted no, so no “-ME”
Jmcrofts teaching two people recently how to Marvel, maybe we could see a third with Doki if she’s interested 😉🤔 Toxic MvC2 doki could go kinda hard icl
As much as I would love that, I think she stressed too much from fgs rn tbh
Okay now do the reverse, I wanna see you try some infinites from Smash :p
Melee: Ice Climbers, hand-off chain grab
Brawl: Diddy Kong, single nanner infinite
PM: Ivysaur, flop lock (and with an opponent who SDIs, please!)
(haven't played S4 or Ultimate, they probably have some nasty stuff as well though)
Those are some of the more advanced though. If you need some more entry-level stuff so the video has a ramp up in difficulty like the one Coney went through:
Melee:
-Fox shine infinite against a wall
-Ice Climbers wobbling
Brawl: Dedede infinite against DK
Also Fox infinite in 64
Smash 4 has a few funny things with jablocks and stuff, the one i immediately thought of was the falcon custom move infinite where you have to choose the falcon kick that stuns and then footstool, falcon kick and turn around to footstool falcon kick again
The unpatched Ultimate Infinite i think of would be the joker drill reps under the platform
There's a couple infinites in the smash series. You can learn wobbling in 30 seconds lol, but there are plenty of other infinites in the series. Smash 64 first hit up air loops, fox waveshines on some characters in melee alongside wobbling, smash brawl chain grabs (coney would been very happy to show you Dedede down throw lmao). Smash 4 had some customs that allowed footstool combos to be infinite, and Smash ultimate had the infamous "pyramid scheme" combo, and the "lefoble"
coney is used to grab-release infinites with dedede, so probably not
Yes.
Yes please.
Please make coney a classic fighting game fan.
Looking good JM!! Keep up the fitness journey and embrace the process! Love to see you healthy brother.
Actually for the Gambit infinite you can use HP kinetic card so they stay in the air slightly longer.
coney i need this guy doing wobbling waveshines and hitfall combos ASAP
Coney in training mode so he can take on the Wazzler. Respect
We need a hero to take down the Wazzler lmao
It’s really nice to see Smash players apply their skills to other fighting games and be successful. I love it
Just like MvC we got a crossover of a lifetime with Coney/JM, love to see it.
Regarding the intro, while it’s hard for me to think of an infinite from a traditional fighting game that would be as well known as the Iron Man Infinite (I don’t think anything like New Gen Ibuki, Lightning Loops, or *insert anything Iori has ever done in any game ever here* have as much notoriety as the tutorial), I feel like wobbling has to overtake it in general doesn’t it? Like I feel like just due to how much larger smash is more people get exposed to wobbling by default.
Coney probably is every fgc coaches wet dream, he might not hit top shelf but I think he got the potential to make it way further than most his experience
I love that this collection coming out has gotten more people exposed to these games. That's what these collections are for and I'm glad to see people like you helping to bring in people from different communities to try something like this. Coney is such a good choice for this, too, because he seems like a guy who is up to at least try most things and he vibes with people very easily.
I feel like turnabout is fair play, and Coney can show JMcrofts some smash combos to try, there's a TOD in each game that should be easy to learn: 64 falcon juggle up airs into up B, melee wobbling, brawl icy chain grab, 4 Bayo nonsense, ult kazuya electric TOD. Maybe if you wanna get spicy for melee do marth's chain grab or shiek RTC if croft finds that other stuff too easy (he won't).
EDIT: Actually show JMCrofts the DK chaingrab on FD, I think he'd genuinely love doing that one, and since the up airs auto cancel he won't even have to learn to L cancel.
No, it's "NOW GO UP! NOW GO DIAGONAL!" Coney hasn't seen the pre-Evo 2020 arc of white FGC content creators attempting to do the full 59 hit combo into DHC, he needs to consider himself lucky JM didn't insist on that. 😂
I think Smash implicitly requires a ton of technical execution, given the varying run/walk speeds and aerial mobility. Because of SDI, combos aren’t strictly muscle memory and you still have to react between hits not only by rhythm, but by position
I'm instantly a Coney fan!!! He has the combo trial psychosis like me.
I hope Coney and JM collab more often, Coney is hilarious!
Great stuff. To get the super easier on the iron man infinite u want to do two reps with neutral jump to space urself out then land and do HP > Proton cannon.
Next video should be JM learning to waveshine
YE, The tech should go both ways
didnt think we would get to see jmlegs god damn
Watching Coney fall into the same exact trap I do when there's a noticeable delay. He's delaying the move immediately AFTER the one he's supposed to delay once he gets in the practice rythm
NGL that bomber looked fire
Damn, Jmcrofts looking nice as hell in the fabletics jacket ngl.
1:30 damn that looked kinda hard
Relieved to see that someone else is having the same struggles I'm having with that infinite. Great vid!
The Fabletics clothes look surprisingly nice, and with the jacket zipped up, you look like a movie bouncer. Just flex and add sunglasses to complete the look
Is the Iron Man Infinite basically a Raging Demon Input?
Oh my god
WHAT THE HECK
Id love to see FGC players learning smash bros combos or tech, thatd be a fun mirror on this concept
a JM melee arc would be kind of sick honestly
The little Melee Donkey Kong tangent was lowkey my favorite part
I’d love the reverse of this with coney teaching crofts ultimate or maybe even rivals 2.
You didnt look swanky.. you had dat drip.. 😆
Jmcrofts and Coney crossover was something I didn’t know I needed.
Yooo Jmc x Coney crossover? This is sick!
a jmcroft learning smash video with coney is needed
This was awesome! We gotta see bro get the whole combo though!
“Smash games can have really difficult execution,” as sheik dose double jump chain omg
Don Bomber sounds like a super move, not a jacket
WE WANNA SEE YOU MAKE A COUPLE VIDEOS TRYING OUT SMASH BROTHERS WITH CONEYYYYY
JMICROSOFTS AND CONEY ISLAND COLAB????? CRAZYU
thank you for teaching me how to do a FUNKING INFINITE @20:25 OK THAT'S BS F@$# THIS GAME
YOU CAN CANCEL IT OUT INTO MOTHAFUCKIN' HEAVY PUNCH ULTRA! *BUT I AIN'T GONNA DO THAT SHIT!*
*AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
That bomber jacket does look great on you.
JM helping to convert Coney to playing other fighting games. Maybe one day he'll help convert Coney to having better opinions on games too 😊
Nah that bomber and jeans look is crisp
Coney’s gonna get Wazzled
JMCroney is still the best crossover
Coney loves infinites, he plays Dedede in Brawl
Ayo but what if next Jmcrofts tourney was Smash...folks from fgc trying to play Smash would be fun
Bro you rock that bomber well
Yes JM pull Coney to the FGC side.
Should have just given him the Champloo vid for Iron Man instead of showing him yourself, woulda nailed it with that immaculate coaching..
Now we need you learning melee dk with coney
Should've seen if he could do air to ground, or sentinel unfly/refly
I hope someone lets Coney know about being able to turn off flashes 😂 could save his eyes in the long run.
Coney should teach JM melee next video💯
Big ups to Coney the mayonnaise man
You wanna learn how to do an egregious infinite?
I'm gonna teach your delight behind
I would hope Coney could do a f*ckin infinite. After all, melee has one.
Wazzler! No wazzling!
Doing anything with an audience is like easy +200% difficulty
Yo the FABLETICS THO????
This is the guy representing the smashers GG lmaoo
the rest are in prison this is the best we got
I read this as being able to infinite in smash itself.
FOLKS vs FELLAS!
MVC are rhythm games
One person who CAN comment on the execution of Smash games is... CONEY
Weeeeelllllll....
FELLAS, FOLKS !! 🗣️
If you told me to learn sentinel I’ll probably cry hahahahaha
Your bed looks cozy as hell JM wtf
I can't believe I heard a ralph pootawn reference in 2024
Yes they can, even new players can do it if they practice. This idea that new players can't play marvel 2 and sf3 is dumb as hell they all human and it's gatekeeping. People play the soul series because it's difficult as fuck. That doesn't stop them from playing it. This isnt against this video btw love the work!
WAZZLER NO WAZZLING
Great movie
I honestly don’t understand why people hate on Smash players. It’s not like they don’t have absurdly specific crazy shit they do with their thumbs. I don’t see how they CANT learn to play standard versus fighters
everyone scared of the wazzler xD
Can a smash player do an infinite? I’ve been playing smash since it came out and I’ve been playing mvc2 on Dreamcast. I’ve learned iron man infinite by watching online and bam. Come on mang! It’s not that bad
ive never played gambit in marvel 1 before. went and tried the infinite. first try i got 17 hits lmao
and ive played spiderman in these games my ENTIRE life. the infinite is mshvsf is actually pretty tricky, but once you get the timing down its no problem
Yes, YES, YES!!
Keenfrizzle notification pog
Tbh, didn't know MshvsSF had infinites.
shoulda gotten slime 😞 balds stick together
Melee mentioned 👀
Seeing a Smash player play a real fighting game is wild
Hakim sub based
have him do the rom infinite next