Thumbs up to the review 👍 I have this and decided on just two of the 200W panels. This will give me a reasonable tradeoff in portability and recharge time, especially if I am not driving the battery too far down. Getting the panels on sale through Jackery directly or other means can really help, as the panels are pricey. I did use AC to the 2000 Pro to get it charged up from the factory shipped level. Watching it draw 1.5KW at first had me anxiously awaiting it downshifting its current draw as it got closer to 100% Even if you don't want to use AC you should always check out the different charging methods to make sure they all work OK. I used to have a gas generator and this will work better for my uses. Besides having to maintain the generator after properly breaking it in, and being careful about the fuel you use through its carburetor, the one thing that really bugged me is how LOUD they are. I hated firing it up even for routine checks in the neighborhood, let alone taking it out to a camping spot. I will primarily use it as a home backup, but it and its two panels are fairly portable for camping. For shorter overnight trips I sometimes just use my Jackery 300 (with Elecaenta 120W panel). Charging it with a vehicle is a slow process...really better for topping it off to and from a site.
Today 20. August 22, I have tested this Solarsaga200 panel with my Bluetti SP200 panel. They have booth exact the same performance. First I thought that the Solarsaga would be 10 to 20 watts better, but its the same, maybe +/- 3 watts difference. It's like in this video where you have around 150 to 170 watts in full sun, but it can drop to 130-140 watts if they are heating up. Even partial shading is exact the same. If 25 percent is in shade, then you will lose 50 percent of performance. And if 50 percent is in shade, then you will lose everything. So this panels are not performing well in the shade. Bluetti has this PV-Panels, where you will keep lots of performance when in shade. The only good thing about this solarsage panel is that it is IP67 Waterproof and you can adjust the kickstands. But the price for 699 is too crazy.
I would have liked to hear a little more about battery chemistry in your review, I'm surprised Jackery hasn't starting using LiFePO4 batteries (like their competitors) that support many more discharge cycles, and last years longer.
I just bought this model, and can say without hesitation that, for me personally, it was a better option than the Bluetti AC200P, or AC200 Max. For a few reasons: first the weight, at 40 lbs this is 20 lbs lighter than the 60 lbs(!) Bluetti because it's using "conventional" Li-Ion batteries. And second, it's very compact. About the size of a small camping cooler. Also, like Zach said, this is whisper quiet even at maximum power output! The Bluetti is noisy by comparison. Lastly, if 1000 cycles seems perhaps a short lifespan compared to 3000 for the Bluetti, just keep in mind that 1000 recharging cycles still represents draining the batteries completely and recharging to 100% each and every single day for...3 years! Not something that people usually do with these. So the lifespan will likely be a lot more than only 3 years.
@@charleshood Can you elaborate on that? Because I didn't see a review that talks about that. And when looking for answers on the internet there are a lot of conflicting reports about optimum operating temperatures of Li-Ion versus Lipo batteries.
@@AlainHubert It's not a huge difference, but if you look in the user manuals, you'll see the orange company lists a discharge temperature range of -10-40℃ (-14-104 ℉ ), and the blue company lists a discharge temperature range of -20-40℃ (-4-104 ℉ ) for one of their comparable LiFePO4 based products. (Advantage orange)
Main reason I went from jackery to ecoflow and bluetti with lifepo4 is the fire risk. 2nd is charge cycles. Yall keep taking about you don't need lifepo4 but hesitant to speak about the fire risk . My set up that I'm preparing now for hotter days is to run an 5000 btu ac for free everyday in the summer with a delta pro and extended batteries charged by panels. Lifepo4 provides a complete home solution for years in addition to casual use. Jackery is generally made for casual use.
For the very exorbitant price of this Explorer 2000. I would rather get an Ecoflow or a Bluetti, add a solar panel and I would still end up spending less.
That’s a good point. Once the battery is Full, its Full. Who cares if it took 2 hours or 8 hours? If you need that quick of a turn around on 2160w of power, then you probably need a dedicated power source. Seriously. We are trying to slow down, right? lol. You are better off with 2x100w panels and getting more (2+) Jackery units. If you have the time, more stored power is better than more potential power. Am I off base here?
Only use case I can think of is someone whose TIME SPENT IN CAMP is little, like hiker’s and biker’s. If your time is limited, and you don’t want your $2k - $6k equipment stolen, maybe more panels makes sense. But they take up more storage room.
@@MakeUseOf TY. There is a use case for sure for multiple smaller or medium batteries in place of 1 huge battery. The Jackery 1000 Pro launches tonight.
Have you tried to use Jackery DC charger that comes with Jackery 1500 to charge this unit? The output of DC brick is 24 volt and 12 amp, but Jackery 2000 pro didn’t charge.
Still a pretty good review and a pretty good battery station. But also still lacking type c charging input or input/output to make it easy to charge the battery station. Also downside is that your limited on using the dongle on using there solar panels. Also nice color cords and easy to find them. But the highest battery station that is still crown as King that as higher Wh. But carrys a high cost tag and it's Goal Zero yeti 6,000x and as type c charging input/output and as the bells and whistles for my future setup. Also with goal zero brands not really limited on using there solar panels and it comes with app control. Also almost a average home uses about 30KWh per day and too get that much it will be 6×5=30. Meaning will need 5 goal zero yeti 6,000x to get almost about 30kWh. But in reality it will be too much and won't be realistic if solar panels are helping out now would it. Plus they are much heavy and I don't think a average budget person would want to try to move 5 large battery stations around. But hey about 30kWhs or more from a average household if house is much bigger. Well power usage maybe much worse if not using power wisely. But hey just math, science and numbers and as not been experienced with real world testing.
I have a little Trillium trailer, can I plug the main harness into this unit to run my fridge, lighting and modern electronics when I’m off the grid ? I like that I can charge it while using it with solar, but will it do the job ? I’m almost ready to pull the trigger on this thing, but there’s still too many question marks…….
What's the battery chemistry? All of the Jackery's to date have used NMC batteries, these only yield about 500 cycles before capacity is down to 80% of original capacity. A lot of competitors (Bluetti, Ecoflow etc) are using lithium iron phosphate batteries, which give thousands of cycles before dropping to 80%. IMHO at some point as Jackery pushes their capacities higher they're going to need to switch to LiFePO4s to stay competitive. You can get away with li-ions when you're making smaller lighter units in the 1 - 1.5 kwh range. But if they're going to push up to the 3 - 5 kwh range they will need to use LiFePO4 batteries or they will lose out against the competition.
Too bad there is a very large oversite on the 2000 pro with the MPPT falling "asleep" and needing to unplug and plug back in the panels to wake it up...
Once you get that big and heavy I don’t think these all in one units make sense anymore. Better to build a more modular (but less portable) unit by building from components.
1 counter point is the "all in ones" are way more convenient for lazy types who dont wanna learn how to make a diy rig, the new zendure superbase-v is expandable to 64kilowatts meaning depending on a households energy needs it could go days with no sun energy in case of severe weather.
Take a look at the Bluetti EB240. That is quite heavy but still reasonably portable and easy to carry with the handle. Building an equivalent model usually works out to cost more.
I just had a Jackery phone rep tell me that the solar saga 100 watt panel will not plug into the Jackery Proo 2000. he sounded like he didn’t know what the heck I was talking about. I have a new 2000pro.. Would I be able to hook up my two 200 watt panels, into one series connector, add the extension cable and plug into one port and plug my 100 watt into another extension cable into the other port? TYIA
It will plug in by itself, but you wouldn't be able to combine it with other panels. There's only one solar input plug - the splitter cable is a Y parallel adaptor, but they all go into the same input port/ MPTT controller. To combine panels, you need to balance the voltage and current. The only semi-portable battery I've come across yet with two input MPPT controllers is the Bluetti AC300.
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Thumbs up to the review 👍
I have this and decided on just two of the 200W panels. This will give me a reasonable tradeoff in portability and recharge time, especially if I am not driving the battery too far down. Getting the panels on sale through Jackery directly or other means can really help, as the panels are pricey.
I did use AC to the 2000 Pro to get it charged up from the factory shipped level. Watching it draw 1.5KW at first had me anxiously awaiting it downshifting its current draw as it got closer to 100% Even if you don't want to use AC you should always check out the different charging methods to make sure they all work OK.
I used to have a gas generator and this will work better for my uses. Besides having to maintain the generator after properly breaking it in, and being careful about the fuel you use through its carburetor, the one thing that really bugged me is how LOUD they are. I hated firing it up even for routine checks in the neighborhood, let alone taking it out to a camping spot.
I will primarily use it as a home backup, but it and its two panels are fairly portable for camping. For shorter overnight trips I sometimes just use my Jackery 300 (with Elecaenta 120W panel).
Charging it with a vehicle is a slow process...really better for topping it off to and from a site.
Excellent video, really helped to understand 2000 pro . Thanks😊
Today 20. August 22, I have tested this Solarsaga200 panel with my Bluetti SP200 panel. They have booth exact the same performance. First I thought that the Solarsaga would be 10 to 20 watts better, but its the same, maybe +/- 3 watts difference. It's like in this video where you have around 150 to 170 watts in full sun, but it can drop to 130-140 watts if they are heating up. Even partial shading is exact the same. If 25 percent is in shade, then you will lose 50 percent of performance. And if 50 percent is in shade, then you will lose everything. So this panels are not performing well in the shade. Bluetti has this PV-Panels, where you will keep lots of performance when in shade. The only good thing about this solarsage panel is that it is IP67 Waterproof and you can adjust the kickstands. But the price for 699 is too crazy.
Can I use it and charge simultaneously? Does it show input and output numbers Simultaneously? Thanks
I would have liked to hear a little more about battery chemistry in your review, I'm surprised Jackery hasn't starting using LiFePO4 batteries (like their competitors) that support many more discharge cycles, and last years longer.
I just bought this model, and can say without hesitation that, for me personally, it was a better option than the Bluetti AC200P, or AC200 Max. For a few reasons: first the weight, at 40 lbs this is 20 lbs lighter than the 60 lbs(!) Bluetti because it's using "conventional" Li-Ion batteries. And second, it's very compact. About the size of a small camping cooler. Also, like Zach said, this is whisper quiet even at maximum power output! The Bluetti is noisy by comparison.
Lastly, if 1000 cycles seems perhaps a short lifespan compared to 3000 for the Bluetti, just keep in mind that 1000 recharging cycles still represents draining the batteries completely and recharging to 100% each and every single day for...3 years! Not something that people usually do with these. So the lifespan will likely be a lot more than only 3 years.
@@AlainHubert Difference in operating temperature is another big distinction.
@@charleshood
Can you elaborate on that? Because I didn't see a review that talks about that. And when looking for answers on the internet there are a lot of conflicting reports about optimum operating temperatures of Li-Ion versus Lipo batteries.
@@AlainHubert It's not a huge difference, but if you look in the user manuals, you'll see the orange company lists a discharge temperature range of -10-40℃ (-14-104 ℉ ), and the blue company lists a discharge temperature range of -20-40℃ (-4-104 ℉ ) for one of their comparable LiFePO4 based products. (Advantage orange)
Main reason I went from jackery to ecoflow and bluetti with lifepo4 is the fire risk. 2nd is charge cycles. Yall keep taking about you don't need lifepo4 but hesitant to speak about the fire risk . My set up that I'm preparing now for hotter days is to run an 5000 btu ac for free everyday in the summer with a delta pro and extended batteries charged by panels. Lifepo4 provides a complete home solution for years in addition to casual use. Jackery is generally made for casual use.
For the very exorbitant price of this Explorer 2000. I would rather get an Ecoflow or a Bluetti, add a solar panel and I would still end up spending less.
I agree, That Explorer is way to expensive compared to other power stations.
That’s a good point. Once the battery is Full, its Full. Who cares if it took 2 hours or 8 hours? If you need that quick of a turn around on 2160w of power, then you probably need a dedicated power source. Seriously. We are trying to slow down, right? lol. You are better off with 2x100w panels and getting more (2+) Jackery units. If you have the time, more stored power is better than more potential power. Am I off base here?
Only use case I can think of is someone whose TIME SPENT IN CAMP is little, like hiker’s and biker’s. If your time is limited, and you don’t want your $2k - $6k equipment stolen, maybe more panels makes sense. But they take up more storage room.
I agree, it makes more sense to spend that money on another battery, then leave one to charge all day while you use the other.
@@MakeUseOf TY. There is a use case for sure for multiple smaller or medium batteries in place of 1 huge battery. The Jackery 1000 Pro launches tonight.
@@heavysighs I can't say that it is the best Jackery yet, but I know it is one very expensive piece of equiptment.
@@looneytooonnsss2223 that ECO FLOW Delta 2 looks even better. IDK. It releases on the 16th.
Have you tried to use Jackery DC charger that comes with Jackery 1500 to charge this unit?
The output of DC brick is 24 volt and 12 amp, but Jackery 2000 pro didn’t charge.
Still a pretty good review and a pretty good battery station. But also still lacking type c charging input or input/output to make it easy to charge the battery station. Also downside is that your limited on using the dongle on using there solar panels. Also nice color cords and easy to find them. But the highest battery station that is still crown as King that as higher Wh. But carrys a high cost tag and it's Goal Zero yeti 6,000x and as type c charging input/output and as the bells and whistles for my future setup. Also with goal zero brands not really limited on using there solar panels and it comes with app control. Also almost a average home uses about 30KWh per day and too get that much it will be 6×5=30. Meaning will need 5 goal zero yeti 6,000x to get almost about 30kWh. But in reality it will be too much and won't be realistic if solar panels are helping out now would it. Plus they are much heavy and I don't think a average budget person would want to try to move 5 large battery stations around. But hey about 30kWhs or more from a average household if house is much bigger. Well power usage maybe much worse if not using power wisely. But hey just math, science and numbers and as not been experienced with real world testing.
Great review !
I have a little Trillium trailer, can I plug the main harness into this unit to run my fridge, lighting and modern electronics when I’m off the grid ? I like that I can charge it while using it with solar, but will it do the job ? I’m almost ready to pull the trigger on this thing, but there’s still too many question marks…….
Nice review... Well done 👍
What's the battery chemistry? All of the Jackery's to date have used NMC batteries, these only yield about 500 cycles before capacity is down to 80% of original capacity. A lot of competitors (Bluetti, Ecoflow etc) are using lithium iron phosphate batteries, which give thousands of cycles before dropping to 80%. IMHO at some point as Jackery pushes their capacities higher they're going to need to switch to LiFePO4s to stay competitive. You can get away with li-ions when you're making smaller lighter units in the 1 - 1.5 kwh range. But if they're going to push up to the 3 - 5 kwh range they will need to use LiFePO4 batteries or they will lose out against the competition.
Li-ion, yeh. 1000 cycles. That's the only (big) drawback of these.
Too bad there is a very large oversite on the 2000 pro with the MPPT falling "asleep" and needing to unplug and plug back in the panels to wake it up...
Sounds like it might be overheating. Did you contact Jackery about it, to replace the circuit?
@@MakeUseOf Jackery is well aware of the problem. I have a video on my channel about it running an AC where I read Jackery's response to the issue.
@@MakeUseOf Jackery is well aware of the problem. I have a video on my channel about it running an AC where I read Jackery's response to the issue.
Once you get that big and heavy I don’t think these all in one units make sense anymore. Better to build a more modular (but less portable) unit by building from components.
1 counter point is the "all in ones" are way more convenient for lazy types who dont wanna learn how to make a diy rig, the new zendure superbase-v is expandable to 64kilowatts meaning depending on a households energy needs it could go days with no sun energy in case of severe weather.
@@tubevideoguy762 Good point. I guess not everyone geeks out over this stuff
Take a look at the Bluetti EB240. That is quite heavy but still reasonably portable and easy to carry with the handle. Building an equivalent model usually works out to cost more.
I wish Jackery would do a 240v version for Australia
I just had a Jackery phone rep tell me that the solar saga 100 watt panel will not plug into the Jackery Proo 2000. he sounded like he didn’t know what the heck I was talking about.
I have a new 2000pro.. Would I be able to hook up my two 200 watt panels, into one series connector, add the extension cable and plug into one port and plug my 100 watt into another extension cable into the other port?
TYIA
It will plug in by itself, but you wouldn't be able to combine it with other panels. There's only one solar input plug - the splitter cable is a Y parallel adaptor, but they all go into the same input port/ MPTT controller. To combine panels, you need to balance the voltage and current.
The only semi-portable battery I've come across yet with two input MPPT controllers is the Bluetti AC300.
@@MakeUseOf TY
NICE REVIEWS...TY!
I just got the 2 panel package, do I need the adapter or can I plug each panel directly in the unit?
No need for an adaptor unless you want to add more panels; there are two inputs.
I doubt that this is the best Jackery, after all they do cost a lot compared to other brands of the same capacity.
overpriced compared to the ac200mas or anker 767
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