Of course this isn't unique to Africans. look at how ancient Europeans would refer to each other. Ancient greeks called other Europeans inferior and barbarians which was a slur at the time
tbh not trying to start something but, they really were. Roman and Greece were centuries ahead of the rest of Europe, while Britain still had small wooden halls for there kings, Roman engineering was of the charts. Infact if it wasn't for Rome, European society would be at the same, level as other empires when Europeans found weaponry use for gunpowder, it took Britain centuries just to start to understand roman architecture. But they all claim Roman and Greek Empires as their own ancestry, but when we claim Egyptian ancestry its all of a sudden a problem.
@accx1 Egypt was created by various ethnicities of blacks. It wasn't like Greece and Rome, who were basically the same ethnicities and we're extremely xenophobic, especially towards other Europeans. Heck, black Africans and their diaspora have more of a solid claim of ancient Egypt and Nubia than that of Europeans on Greco Roman civilizations.
@@vibeamv859Right but that doesn’t count for them cause Yk, their “wyt”. So the Greeks building their Acropolis is the same as the British only having the Stonehenge before the Romans 😭😭 They’ll add the Greek accomplishments to “wyt” accomplishments as a collective whole.
100% agree there was prejudice. in East Africa, Zanzibar , Mozambique (Musa Al Bique) , Mvita , Kilwa and Kismayu there was color prejudice against blacks. As late as 1960;s same attitudes among Arabs and Arabized Africans were there until John Okello a Luo from Uganda lead the revolt that freed Black people.
Thank you for this very informative video. Prejudice for sure existed, I see it being based more on ethnic tribes and nationalities along with experiences. When you mentioned the Zulu and their wars for conquest as an example, those on the receiving end would develop a prejudice from being on the receiving end of that negative experience. I would also like to think prejudices could arise from misunderstandings that were not resolved and due to that a certain way of thinking about certain groups developed as a result.
Sesostris I, called Kush vile. Probably because there was a battle for upper Kemet/Lower Nubia for many years. I really don't think it was a racial slur because he looked black himself. During the New Kingdom, Kemet and Kush became one. Also, I think the problem with the Ghanian empire might have been a religious thing, maybe Ghana couldn't be penetrated by Islam at the time, as we know Ghana's spirirtuality is hardcore. At the end of the day, Ukraine and Russia hate each other, but they are more or less white and the same people. In the future with different leaders, they migh unite, until then loads of slurs and prejuices.
That was sensuret III and yes he was black African, Hitler said and did 💯 times worse about eastern Europeans and they were all white people and the hutu did likewise with the tutsi and they were all black Africans
Yep, people create deogtatory terms towards their enemies to other them. The romans said many cruel things to Gauls and other northern Europeans and considered them subhuman, yet nowadays they're both considered "white" by the descendants of those Northern Europeans
@@mussiedebrezion8198thats cause Hitler the nazis and a lot of Western and Northern Europeans didnt consider Eastern Europeans , particularly slavs as white. They were considered subhuman by Nazis, them being considered "white" is a recent phenomenon.
@@mussiedebrezion8198 Sesostris was Egyptian, not a “black African” because no such thing exist in Africa historically; “black” is strictly an American thing, and nobody in African refers to themselves as such, and Sesostris didn't either... While the Egyptians were Hamites, they were not descendants of Cush, progenitor of the Sudanese/Nilotic people... The ancient Egyptians looked more like Ethiopians, and were ethnically different from the Sudanese, which is why they thought of themselves as a different race... And Sesostris even named one of his fortresses between the first and second cataract of the Nile in a way disparaging the Nubians, saying how he would slaughter them... They Egyptians did not consider themselves the same as the people of Wawat...
I never use the term SSA. Africa is Africa. That term was created to disconnect Blackness from Africa above the Sahara. If you must, use south Saharan but even that has the same intent as SSA.
A lot of these groups - Masmuda, Godala etc that had racial prejudice would have been socialized as black themselves. It's no different to Somalis and Eritreans saying they aren't Black. Or how North Sudanese treat South Sudanese
Somebody had to have invoked Dr. Chancellor Williams to watch over your research/content lol Congrats on the 800K! We gotta get you to 1M! #Abibifahodie
I find it kinda funny, as a Portuguese guy, I hear that people from Portugal's former African colonies have massive rivalries and animosity between themselves. There's like a sort of adage/anecdote that an Angolan prefers a Portuguese to a Mozambican, and vice-versa. Kinda like how the Portuguese prefer both French and British people to the Spanyards lmao. PS: this is just exageration in most cases of course but the stereotype comes from somewhere.
Ancient Africans had their own intra-racial categories that don’t necessarily align with modern ones. At that time, the phrase “the blacks” could have simply meant non-Muslim. Through the modern lens it may seem that the author of the Tarik Al Fattash is denigrating his “own people” or tribe but it’s very possible that by blacks he meant non-Muslims. In antiquity it was common for the Fulani (who could be classified as a Berber-like or Berber related group and who today are considered black) to refer to their neighbors in West Africa, particularly the non-Muslims, as the blacks. As far as the Masmuda man finding wanting to marry an (enslaved? That’s odd) Abyssinian (or Ethiopian) woman shameful could have been due to the fact that the Masmuda people were Muslim and the Abyssinians were Christian.
Or it could represent a distinction between dark brown and medium brown skin tones. Within the Fula ethnic group, there is still a differentiation between the 'black' and the 'red' members."
Very interesting. I'm curious as to why is racial prejudice always anti-Black and not the other way around to the same degree? It sometimes seems like this trend is everywhere and now even amongst Africans. What is it about Blackness that confers such disdain among some people and where are the examples of prejudice and superiority based around Blackness?
I think it’s rooted in classism. Darker skin was associated with being laborer or working class background in many cultures that didn’t have the darkest skin tones from the outset. Light skin then meant being wealthy and higher status because e you weren’t laboring Not that it’s right or correct. But classism is older than racism, and is imbedded in the formation of racism
This is exactly why Critical Race Theory is so important. The way the white man has re-written history is not only disgusting but it is dangerous. I was in the post office a few months ago and this old white lady asked me where I was from? I told her proudly, I was born in Cairo, Egypt in the Giza neighborhood by the banks of the River Nile, not to far from the Giza Pyramids in Egypt's oldest hospital, Al Agouza. She replied, "Wow I always thought the Egyptians were white." Unbelievable, smh.
@@soda8736 All consensus says the ancients Egyptians, the Kushites, the Cannanites, the Hyskos, the Hebrews, the Sumerians and the Phonecians were ALL orginally black but from different clans/tribes/nationalities. You can't tell me about my history when I am from the Motherland.
@@GnosticCushite you are delusional.. You don't think it's funny that all those places you named that were original black, there is no ingenious Black population there now? And there is no documented mass migration or genocide of black people in none of those places?And the only people that say what you say are wacked out afrocentrics ?
@@GnosticCushitePeople like the Chinese dont need the "White" man to verify their history because they actually recorded their own history. You guys have to use the "White" man's history and Arab man's history to verify your own history because your people never recorded your history until contact with said people.
No curse of ham when it relates to different groups in Africa. Having melanated skin is something that is by product of living in a specific environment for survival.
@@lionspride4821 the curse was Canaan, son of Ham, having his descendants serve as sl4ves. Isn’t history proof enough with the Abrahamic religions constantly abducting Africans for labor … from the Arab Muslim to the Christian Trans-Atlantic passage?
6:20 this quote perfectly sums up mainstream African history. We have no idea were the Egyptians came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK We have no idea were the axumites came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK We have no idea were the moors came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK
@@choicesii1 Mulai Rashid and his brother Ismail and some other were black because their mother was, similar to how some other rulers after had green eyes and were white, In morocco for ruler what mattered was your father not mother so being white, black or anything in between did not change how they dealt with people depending on color Ismail famously had black and white slave black more than white because of the region but yeh, race doesn't work like that in morocco it's who is your father is more important
Many West African jews in the empire of Songhai where expelled to southern Algeria. Al-Maghili a general at the time convinced Askia that the kingdom should be only Muslim. Leo Africanus writes: "The king (Askia) is a declared enemy of the Jews. He will not allow any to live in the city. If he hears it said that a Berber merchant frequents them or does business with them, he confiscates his goods."
Are we sure of the translation? Was the Arabic word I assume referring to West Africans really “the Blacks”? Often later historians will mistranslate words either by accident or on purpose because of their racist mindsets.
Tribalism is a thing, and of course, with the diversity of Africa and geography that fostered that diversity, it would make sense that there’s prejudice among Africans. And there’s the tribal fighting too. That did not originate with the coming of European at all. And it is morally wrong and unfair to allow bias to cloud the lens in telling history, but at least the scholars didn’t say that civilizations were found by aliens as we hear now from these ancient history channels 🙄
Tribalism came during colonialism. Europeans are the ones who assigned tribes to Africans. Africans did not have the concept of tribes or ethnic groups but clans and totems, that is all. It is funny that we speak for ourselves you want to oppose us as if you knew how our dynamics were before Europeans. We do not even have words equivalent to tribe in our languages to this day. I will give you an example: Clement Doke is the reason why the clans of great Zimbabwe are now called Shona, before The British, they never called themselves Shona. It is there in the Portuguese texts on how the so-called shonas identified themselves. Same applies to Zulus and Xhosa and Khoisan. The Khoi do not even call themselves khoi or San they identify themselves by clans to this day! The Khoi name was was assigned to them by a racist German who did business with the Boers or Afrikaaners! We never warred based on tribes like whites like to claim. How do you believe a people who never witnesses not one "tribal" war or many to make that claim. We were not perfect but fighting on a daily is a blatant lie. You people are exhausting.
@ there’s no denying that the names Europeans gave Africans aren’t the names Africans given themselves. However, I don’t think anybody thinks that different African groups were fighting everyday, but there was fighting. The Europeans would not have been able to successfully use “divide & conquer” if there wasn’t any type of animosity present.
The "curse of Ham" is a judeo-christian concept, it has no basis in Islam. We should also not identify Islam with color. There were Blacks coming into Islam before Islam reached Africa. Islam, also is arguably the only faith based belief system that warns of prejudice. The primary sources of Islam are the Holy Qur'an and the example of Prophet Muhammad(saw). Certain behaviors of Muslims may even take someone outside of Islam altogether. One such behavior is 'sectarianism.' (sunan abu dawuud) Sectarianism, according to Imam Al Ghazali is the vehicle from which the devil tricks Muslims into the major sins that Muslims otherwise would avoid. "O believers! Avoid many suspicions, for indeed, some suspicions are sinful. And do not spy, nor backbite one another. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of their dead brother? You would despise that! And fear Allah. Surely Allah is ˹the˺ Accepter of Repentance, Most Merciful." 49:12
SO MUCH MISINFORMATION IN THIS VIDEO 🤦🏿♂️ EGYPTIAN IS A GREEK WORD DESCRIBING AFRICANS FROM NUBIA , ANCIENT NUBIA. EGYPTIANS ARE NOT SOME SEPARATE PEOPLE 🙄🤦🏿♂️
There’s race ism, hate, bigotry, prejudice, bias, indifference, class, preference, separation, stigma, stereotypes, avoidance…all are relevant and need to be used in the right/correct context…a big issue in context today is foreigners, oppressors, imperialists & colonialist etc telling the black story
The Masmuda berbers (Amazigh) were from the Atlas mountains of Morroco but are described as blacks by various sources. Racism during this period was more about region, tribe and culture than color.
@@waterangola Everyone from grade school knows urbanisation and civilization started in Mesopotamia, India, China, and Egypt. Those things didn’t exist prior
@@PackHunter117Egypt is in Africa older than anything called China which was never united till much later times and kush birthed Egypt. Civilization isn't big building. Africa had civil-lixations while Europe and the world were eating ppl.
Hmm I’m not so sure. I’m wondering how much of this has to do with religion or tribal conflict or hierarchy rather than modern concepts of race. Many (if not all) of the Berbers and scholars you mentioned would be classified as black themselves based on modern concepts of race. “The blacks” especially in that region were very rich and powerful at that time, they weren’t subordinate to anyone, they even had “white” slaves in that region, so even if non-blacks looked down on them it clearly didn’t matter much.
Berbers never had a dar tichitt Cant find any egyptian culture on the northern coasts of the mediterranean sea until after 1000 bce. berbers claim ancient egypt hamitic race over sub groids but subsaharans had tumulus pyramid structures used in a spiritual way for african monarchs the same as the egyptians. Still i am waiting on a dar tichiit or tumulus pryamids or anything related to ancient egypts on the coasts of north africa before the sea people invasions.
I also wonna add this is why Atlantis could never be in West Africa. Even with a little evidence. And if it is the Soninke and Balfour people would be a high contributor since they were in the area first. also why the Sumerians cant be from Green Sahara
What? You gave no info as to why you believe these things cannot be the case, what topic gives you the idea that none of those civilisations couldn’t have been in west Africa or green sahara
@@xayhovan6814 Maybe I worded incorrectly (which i can see) but in correlation to what he is saying, i was stating many people dont believe the Sumerians came from Green Sahara because they believe they werent “Black” .
Prejudice (pre judgement) is imperative for survival and is universal... What's interesting is that people who look like us (same race) have done more harm to us throughout history than people who look different to us (different race).. yet it is always the other that we pre judge (Prejudice) 🤔
What do you mean when you say "black" that's too ambiguous of a word that was created by people who are not even from the continent of Africa. Nobody was calling themselves black until the Arabs and Europeans came.
Berber comes from the Latin word [ Barba ] meaning breard , this is where the word [ Barber shop ] derived from .Amazigh will tell you quickly that they have nothing to with berber , berbers are hybrids ,yhe mixture of Moorish and Barbarans blood.
No the greek are the one that started that name and it comes form the greek word barbarous which means a foreigner (greeks have even called the romans barbarous) but the romans used after too, berber is an exonym(name given by foriegners greek, romans and arabs) while amazigh is an endonyms(name given by the group to themselves)
@Nillamir1787 The Egyptian ( Kemetics ) didn't have facial hair. Berber ( those who wore beards) were barbarians ( uncivilized). When I looked up the word Barba , I noticed the word berber and berber is associated with Barbarians,through cross reference 🤔
@Nillamir1787 Through cross referencing, I came up with the word Barbarians 🤔 Now the Moors couldn't have been Barbarians ( uncivilized ) Because the Moors were the ones who civilized Europeans, the Moors wasn't called Barbarian , Savage Europeans were called Barbarians.
@Nillamir1787 Barbarian Barbary Berber Barba is if the same nature, the letters can be used unchangeable Barbar and Berber are of the same nature. I keep saying that the Amazigh ( Imazighens) is not affiliated with berber ( Barbarians, European stock ) Amazigh Doesn't accept berber as being their own blood 🤔 If you look at those berbers in Northern Africa you will notice that those berber are of European stock . Berber is no more than hybrids, as a result of amalgamation between Moors, Arabs , and Barbarians. As a matter of fact, millions of Europeans were brought into Northern Africa slaves of the Moors . Barbarians sold their own women to the Moors as slaves , or as collateral , or for ransom, .
I’m trying to get to the top of things but to me it sounds like a class struggle and a tribal preference also all over the world the northern part of a country consider them self superior to the southern part of a country. Wow, look out yes
Of course there was "Black" racism towards "Mediteranneans" And "Whites" among other Non "Black" groups as well it is just less documented of "Black" people could be harsh to other "Blacks" of a different ethnicity or nationality etc then no doubt Non "Blacks" would of also faced schisms as well from time to time whether it was reactionary or not is debatable yeah.
I dont anymore. Maybe Garvey was right He told us in no plain terms. If we cannot do what other men have done we wont make it. It seems as far as we go back in history we have been hated. How is it possible that they hated us but moulay had 100k in his army?
the arab isn't superior over the non arab, the white isn't superior over black, what makes one superior is piety. -muhammad ﷺ (i paraphrased the hadeeth)
@YayaToure1247 cause some of them migrated to North Africa from East Africa, and the rest from central Africa they even have the similar culture to us habeshas, but all the cave paintings in north Africa are black telling about black people
The vile asiatic was far more said than kush. There is no such thing as sub saharan afruca all of Africa is and was black. Berber is nam forst given to coastal blacks and sahelian blacks. You need edpsoe to people that terms like berber was associated with black before thes efrench turk arabs calling themselves amazigh.
Vile Kush was not a popular phrase at all!!! Egyptians were far more complimentary of their southern neighbours than any other. This is not the level of rigour i expected from you.
Yeah okay! Some people are very good at deflecting or creating their own perception to not be associated, connected or tied to happenings from like people!
Prejudice still exists in western Africa. This is one of the reasons why we have been controlled by European for centuries. Prejudice in West Africa has led the region being one of corrupt place on earth.
Not just West Africa, all Africa worldwide, the churches and jesuits and semitics, they infiltrate to distabilize all of our economic situations worldwide. The khazar does not want us a superpower ever again
The Last Sermon Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ☪ "All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly." ☝🏿
Part of Islamic religion 🖤 Muhammad dreamed of black women 👳🏼 said it a symbol of epidemic and hadith Muhammad called black people ▪️raisin heads. Jesus has a black feminist verse when the queen 👑 of the south rise. People say the queen of the south is ethiopia.
Maghrebis/Berbers are distinct from West Africans and have their own genomic clusters and population structure. The "Black" ones are assimilated Haratines, Ikelans, Bellas, Gnawas...etc
@@kingamo1588 It's absolutely true, population genetics and other sciences analyzing the human genome have proven it. North Africans have substantial ancestry from 'Eurasian backflow' events from the Levant and Europe in prehistory.
1) They found 400 000 manu scripts in Mali 2) There is thousands of books and manuscripts in ethiopia and Bamoun land 3) kanem , Hausa and Nubians had manuscripts and wrote on stone. 3) Ancient Egypt the civilisation that now allowed the greeks to write and read by transferring their script to the phoenician’s who got it to europe, defo wrote and was a black african civilisation. Don’t ever come on this channel again talking about oral history goof. Coming from a Bamoun of cameroon with direct nile valley blood.
@Taharquathegreat North African history is mostly on rockart. You're highlighting different periods with huge gaps. Much of African history is literally in art depicting events or daily life. I'd take the Garamantes rock art depictions over anything you're quoting from a Roman or Arab era on the supposed racial makeup of a people.
@@choicesii1 Funny how you can’t debunk me, how is anything you just said related to my response? Nubians, Malians empire, Kanem Bornou, Hausa, Ethiopians, Kemtiyu’s all wrote their history down on papyrus or stone and they we’re ALL BLACK AFRICAN civilizations. Admit your intellectual inferiority.
Its amazing I watched a video on India that explains the same same process they underwent. Proto antiblackness was a feature of Arab-Islamic expansion ruclips.net/video/XUBDb9PIAhA/видео.htmlsi=Oh4N9xyuYz-K46VP
They really tryna say Mansa Musa was berber or Arab Berber 😭😭😭😭😭😭. He is literally Mandinka
Yeah, I keep hearing that lie.
he was still involved in slavery, so I never understood why people hype him up so much and not speak the whole truth about him.
@@EyeOfTheWatcher They all were. I was just noting that they think he was Berber and he wasnt. I didnt praise his accomplishments or anything . . .
@@MrMetro-mt5qv Yeah they dont believe as “Sub Saharan” Ancestry, we can or could build such a vast empire .
@@EyeOfTheWatcherI don't exactly see that as a negative of him. Even Queen Nzinga sold slaves to the Dutch to find her wars
Of course this isn't unique to Africans. look at how ancient Europeans would refer to each other. Ancient greeks called other Europeans inferior and barbarians which was a slur at the time
tbh not trying to start something but, they really were. Roman and Greece were centuries ahead of the rest of Europe, while Britain still had small wooden halls for there kings, Roman engineering was of the charts. Infact if it wasn't for Rome, European society would be at the same, level as other empires when Europeans found weaponry use for gunpowder, it took Britain centuries just to start to understand roman architecture. But they all claim Roman and Greek Empires as their own ancestry, but when we claim Egyptian ancestry its all of a sudden a problem.
@accx1 Egypt was created by various ethnicities of blacks. It wasn't like Greece and Rome, who were basically the same ethnicities and we're extremely xenophobic, especially towards other Europeans.
Heck, black Africans and their diaspora have more of a solid claim of ancient Egypt and Nubia than that of Europeans on Greco Roman civilizations.
@@ze_kangz932the Greeks literally regarded the Romans as barbarians lol you don't know what you are talking about
@@vibeamv859Right but that doesn’t count for them cause Yk, their “wyt”. So the Greeks building their Acropolis is the same as the British only having the Stonehenge before the Romans 😭😭
They’ll add the Greek accomplishments to “wyt” accomplishments as a collective whole.
@accx1 i doubt that. or else why would they represent themselves as romans and greeks in entertainment then
100% agree there was prejudice. in East Africa, Zanzibar , Mozambique (Musa Al Bique) , Mvita , Kilwa and Kismayu there was color prejudice against blacks. As late as 1960;s same attitudes among Arabs and Arabized Africans were there until John Okello a Luo from Uganda lead the revolt that freed Black people.
Thank you for this very informative video. Prejudice for sure existed, I see it being based more on ethnic tribes and nationalities along with experiences. When you mentioned the Zulu and their wars for conquest as an example, those on the receiving end would develop a prejudice from being on the receiving end of that negative experience. I would also like to think prejudices could arise from misunderstandings that were not resolved and due to that a certain way of thinking about certain groups developed as a result.
Sesostris I, called Kush vile. Probably because there was a battle for upper Kemet/Lower Nubia for many years. I really don't think it was a racial slur because he looked black himself. During the New Kingdom, Kemet and Kush became one. Also, I think the problem with the Ghanian empire might have been a religious thing, maybe Ghana couldn't be penetrated by Islam at the time, as we know Ghana's spirirtuality is hardcore. At the end of the day, Ukraine and Russia hate each other, but they are more or less white and the same people. In the future with different leaders, they migh unite, until then loads of slurs and prejuices.
That was sensuret III and yes he was black African, Hitler said and did 💯 times worse about eastern Europeans and they were all white people and the hutu did likewise with the tutsi and they were all black Africans
Just look at sesotris woodden statue on google. He’s defo black african
Yep, people create deogtatory terms towards their enemies to other them. The romans said many cruel things to Gauls and other northern Europeans and considered them subhuman, yet nowadays they're both considered "white" by the descendants of those Northern Europeans
@@mussiedebrezion8198thats cause Hitler the nazis and a lot of Western and Northern Europeans didnt consider Eastern Europeans , particularly slavs as white. They were considered subhuman by Nazis, them being considered "white" is a recent phenomenon.
@@mussiedebrezion8198
Sesostris was Egyptian, not a “black African” because no such thing exist in Africa historically; “black” is strictly an American thing, and nobody in African refers to themselves as such, and Sesostris didn't either... While the Egyptians were Hamites, they were not descendants of Cush, progenitor of the Sudanese/Nilotic people...
The ancient Egyptians looked more like Ethiopians, and were ethnically different from the Sudanese, which is why they thought of themselves as a different race...
And Sesostris even named one of his fortresses between the first and second cataract of the Nile in a way disparaging the Nubians, saying how he would slaughter them... They Egyptians did not consider themselves the same as the people of Wawat...
I wonder what black muslims will say about this.this is why i practice african spirituality.
My first thought prejudice stems from religious beliefs, particularly accepting others and forgoing your own.. just my opinion and observations
@@worldtraveler134 well said.are you religous?
Nothing as usual
Tbh, black Christians now do the same thing. I love how we are only just realising we have always had some prejudice against the other
I practice kmtology 👊🏿💪🏿
And don't forget to mention inter European racism due to our colonial experience otherwise you will confuse some of colonial historical facts
Exactly.
Some Arab scholars wrote alot of racist things about black Africans ibn khaldun for example is one of them
Where can I find those informations?
@@mohh3127 google it ibn khaldun
If what ibn khaldun was racist for that, would you say he was racist towards Arabs(he considered himself one)for making similiar remarks against them?
@@Goyfestival Yh probably
@@nicholasrodriguez4990 Search up "Did ibn khaldun hate B- people," and you'll find out that description of him was wrong 👍
Sad how so many non-black peoples had prejudice towards black sub-Saharan Africans but it seems as those black people never held prejudice back
There is no such thing as SSA
@@djeio tell google and everybody else that then lmao 🤣
@@djeioof course there is !!
I never use the term SSA. Africa is Africa. That term was created to disconnect Blackness from Africa above the Sahara. If you must, use south Saharan but even that has the same intent as SSA.
A lot of these groups - Masmuda, Godala etc that had racial prejudice would have been socialized as black themselves.
It's no different to Somalis and Eritreans saying they aren't Black. Or how North Sudanese treat South Sudanese
Somebody had to have invoked Dr. Chancellor Williams to watch over your research/content lol
Congrats on the 800K! We gotta get you to 1M! #Abibifahodie
Thank you for what you do
Thank you Mr .
Great work.
Thanks for being fair and not romanticizing history
I find it kinda funny, as a Portuguese guy, I hear that people from Portugal's former African colonies have massive rivalries and animosity between themselves.
There's like a sort of adage/anecdote that an Angolan prefers a Portuguese to a Mozambican, and vice-versa.
Kinda like how the Portuguese prefer both French and British people to the Spanyards lmao.
PS: this is just exageration in most cases of course but the stereotype comes from somewhere.
Ancient Africans had their own intra-racial categories that don’t necessarily align with modern ones. At that time, the phrase “the blacks” could have simply meant non-Muslim. Through the modern lens it may seem that the author of the Tarik Al Fattash is denigrating his “own people” or tribe but it’s very possible that by blacks he meant non-Muslims. In antiquity it was common for the Fulani (who could be classified as a Berber-like or Berber related group and who today are considered black) to refer to their neighbors in West Africa, particularly the non-Muslims, as the blacks.
As far as the Masmuda man finding wanting to marry an (enslaved? That’s odd) Abyssinian (or Ethiopian) woman shameful could have been due to the fact that the Masmuda people were Muslim and the Abyssinians were Christian.
Or it could represent a distinction between dark brown and medium brown skin tones. Within the Fula ethnic group, there is still a differentiation between the 'black' and the 'red' members."
@@AfricanMaverick yes, yellow, red, and black were common classifications in ancient Africa.
Great points!
What does the Fulani have to do with this video, Can you please stop using us as an example in every situation.
@@mamadoucirebah2241 Use discernment in what he’s trying to convey
Very interesting. I'm curious as to why is racial prejudice always anti-Black and not the other way around to the same degree? It sometimes seems like this trend is everywhere and now even amongst Africans. What is it about Blackness that confers such disdain among some people and where are the examples of prejudice and superiority based around Blackness?
Very said plus great question
Great question. I don't know certain kingdoms in West Africa were adverse to "nonblacks" and called them evil
I think it’s rooted in classism. Darker skin was associated with being laborer or working class background in many cultures that didn’t have the darkest skin tones from the outset. Light skin then meant being wealthy and higher status because e you weren’t laboring
Not that it’s right or correct. But classism is older than racism, and is imbedded in the formation of racism
It’s rooted in genetics. Their Neanderthal genes are screaming at their fight or flight instincts (jk
I guess we need to look at our behaviours now
This is exactly why Critical Race Theory is so important. The way the white man has re-written history is not only disgusting but it is dangerous. I was in the post office a few months ago and this old white lady asked me where I was from? I told her proudly, I was born in Cairo, Egypt in the Giza neighborhood by the banks of the River Nile, not to far from the Giza Pyramids in Egypt's oldest hospital, Al Agouza. She replied, "Wow I always thought the Egyptians were white."
Unbelievable, smh.
Why depend on a Whyte institution to educate you?
All consensus say ancient Egyptians were neither black nor white
@@soda8736 All consensus says the ancients Egyptians, the Kushites, the Cannanites, the Hyskos, the Hebrews, the Sumerians and the Phonecians were ALL orginally black but from different clans/tribes/nationalities.
You can't tell me about my history when
I am from the Motherland.
@@GnosticCushite you are delusional.. You don't think it's funny that all those places you named that were original black, there is no ingenious Black population there now? And there is no documented mass migration or genocide of black people in none of those places?And the only people that say what you say are wacked out afrocentrics ?
@@GnosticCushitePeople like the Chinese dont need the "White" man to verify their history because they actually recorded their own history. You guys have to use the "White" man's history and Arab man's history to verify your own history because your people never recorded your history until contact with said people.
The Curse of Ham is alive and well amongst the Semitic religions. Sunday is still the most segregated hour in the Christian world.
No curse of ham when it relates to different groups in Africa. Having melanated skin is something that is by product of living in a specific environment for survival.
Curse of Ham made zero sense. Moses married a Cushite woman lol
@@thevisitor1012 Lmfao FACTS. Plus, wasn't there quotes in the biblical narrative that claimed he had sudanic features??
@@thevisitor1012 and Moses was punished by God for it, he wasn’t allowed into the Promised Land … miscegenation is a sin according to the Bible.
@@lionspride4821 the curse was Canaan, son of Ham, having his descendants serve as sl4ves. Isn’t history proof enough with the Abrahamic religions constantly abducting Africans for labor … from the Arab Muslim to the Christian Trans-Atlantic passage?
6:20 this quote perfectly sums up mainstream African history.
We have no idea were the Egyptians came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK
We have no idea were the axumites came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK
We have no idea were the moors came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK
We have no idea were the 1st humans came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK
One day, a thousand years from now, they will say, we have no idea where those Nigerians came from, BUT THEY WEREN'T BLACK. LOL
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Y'all got me cracking up!! 🤣
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“Ain't nobody try'n be black until it's time to be black...”
I guess...
Look into modern science they do have ideas, some just don't want to except them
The North African moors were racist towards blacks from the Sage
What does Muley Arsheid Zeriff, the emperor of Morocco, look like to you?
@@choicesii1 Mulai Rashid and his brother Ismail and some other were black because their mother was, similar to how some other rulers after had green eyes and were white, In morocco for ruler what mattered was your father not mother so being white, black or anything in between did not change how they dealt with people depending on color Ismail famously had black and white slave black more than white because of the region but yeh, race doesn't work like that in morocco it's who is your father is more important
Bidan people are still the same way in Mauritania today.
😂😂😂racism is two way street !!
@@choicesii1a BLACK MAN
Do you have any sources on the Knights of Mali ?
Medieval West Africa is still AFTER exposure to colonization.
5:39 kaya Maghan was founder of The Ghana empire predecessor of the Mali empire which was succeeded by The Songhai empire.
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Many West African jews in the empire of Songhai where expelled to southern Algeria. Al-Maghili a general at the time convinced Askia that the kingdom should be only Muslim. Leo Africanus writes:
"The king (Askia) is a declared enemy of the Jews. He will not allow any to live in the city. If he hears it said that a Berber merchant frequents them or does business with them, he confiscates his goods."
Are we sure of the translation? Was the Arabic word I assume referring to West Africans really “the Blacks”? Often later historians will mistranslate words either by accident or on purpose because of their racist mindsets.
Tribalism is a thing, and of course, with the diversity of Africa and geography that fostered that diversity, it would make sense that there’s prejudice among Africans. And there’s the tribal fighting too. That did not originate with the coming of European at all.
And it is morally wrong and unfair to allow bias to cloud the lens in telling history, but at least the scholars didn’t say that civilizations were found by aliens as we hear now from these ancient history channels 🙄
Tribalism came during colonialism. Europeans are the ones who assigned tribes to Africans. Africans did not have the concept of tribes or ethnic groups but clans and totems, that is all. It is funny that we speak for ourselves you want to oppose us as if you knew how our dynamics were before Europeans. We do not even have words equivalent to tribe in our languages to this day. I will give you an example:
Clement Doke is the reason why the clans of great Zimbabwe are now called Shona, before The British, they never called themselves Shona. It is there in the Portuguese texts on how the so-called shonas identified themselves. Same applies to Zulus and Xhosa and Khoisan. The Khoi do not even call themselves khoi or San they identify themselves by clans to this day! The Khoi name was was assigned to them by a racist German who did business with the Boers or Afrikaaners! We never warred based on tribes like whites like to claim. How do you believe a people who never witnesses not one "tribal" war or many to make that claim. We were not perfect but fighting on a daily is a blatant lie. You people are exhausting.
@ there’s no denying that the names Europeans gave Africans aren’t the names Africans given themselves. However, I don’t think anybody thinks that different African groups were fighting everyday, but there was fighting. The Europeans would not have been able to successfully use “divide & conquer” if there wasn’t any type of animosity present.
@rafiqjennings5262 now that, I agree!!
@rafiqjennings5262 and "tribalism" is not unique to Africa... Europe also had in fights for centuries as well.
The "curse of Ham" is a judeo-christian concept, it has no basis in Islam. We should also not identify Islam with color. There were Blacks coming into Islam before Islam reached Africa. Islam, also is arguably the only faith based belief system that warns of prejudice. The primary sources of Islam are the Holy Qur'an and the example of Prophet Muhammad(saw). Certain behaviors of Muslims may even take someone outside of Islam altogether. One such behavior is 'sectarianism.' (sunan abu dawuud)
Sectarianism, according to Imam Al Ghazali is the vehicle from which the devil tricks Muslims into the major sins that Muslims otherwise would avoid.
"O believers! Avoid many suspicions, for indeed, some suspicions are sinful. And do not spy, nor backbite one another. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of their dead brother? You would despise that! And fear Allah. Surely Allah is ˹the˺ Accepter of Repentance, Most Merciful." 49:12
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SO MUCH MISINFORMATION IN THIS VIDEO 🤦🏿♂️ EGYPTIAN IS A GREEK WORD DESCRIBING AFRICANS FROM NUBIA , ANCIENT NUBIA. EGYPTIANS ARE NOT SOME SEPARATE PEOPLE 🙄🤦🏿♂️
There’s race ism, hate, bigotry, prejudice, bias, indifference, class, preference, separation, stigma, stereotypes, avoidance…all are relevant and need to be used in the right/correct context…a big issue in context today is foreigners, oppressors, imperialists & colonialist etc telling the black story
The Masmuda berbers (Amazigh) were from the Atlas mountains of Morroco but are described as blacks by various sources. Racism during this period was more about region, tribe and culture than color.
There are literally millions of modern day descendants of the Masmuda, the Shleuh. None of then look anything close to black.
@@-Blastyou act like they were compared to.monsters. calm down
Atlas Mountain is fair people
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So they think that neandertals arabs brought civilization to AFRICA 😂😂😂
Civilisation started in India, China, Mesopotamia, and Egypt.
@@PackHunter117huh funny 😅
@@PackHunter117 it all started in AFRICA, the olds humans are AFRICAN, everybody knows that
@@waterangola Everyone from grade school knows urbanisation and civilization started in Mesopotamia, India, China, and Egypt. Those things didn’t exist prior
@@PackHunter117Egypt is in Africa older than anything called China which was never united till much later times and kush birthed Egypt. Civilization isn't big building. Africa had civil-lixations while Europe and the world were eating ppl.
Hmm I’m not so sure. I’m wondering how much of this has to do with religion or tribal conflict or hierarchy rather than modern concepts of race. Many (if not all) of the Berbers and scholars you mentioned would be classified as black themselves based on modern concepts of race. “The blacks” especially in that region were very rich and powerful at that time, they weren’t subordinate to anyone, they even had “white” slaves in that region, so even if non-blacks looked down on them it clearly didn’t matter much.
Berbers never had a dar tichitt Cant find any egyptian culture on the northern coasts of the mediterranean sea until after 1000 bce. berbers claim ancient egypt hamitic race over sub groids but subsaharans had tumulus pyramid structures used in a spiritual way for african monarchs the same as the egyptians. Still i am waiting on a dar tichiit or tumulus pryamids or anything related to ancient egypts on the coasts of north africa before the sea people invasions.
I also wonna add this is why Atlantis could never be in West Africa. Even with a little evidence. And if it is the Soninke and Balfour people would be a high contributor since they were in the area first. also why the Sumerians cant be from Green Sahara
What? You gave no info as to why you believe these things cannot be the case, what topic gives you the idea that none of those civilisations couldn’t have been in west Africa or green sahara
@@xayhovan6814 Maybe I worded incorrectly (which i can see) but in correlation to what he is saying, i was stating many people dont believe the Sumerians came from Green Sahara because they believe they werent “Black” .
Why is the logo a white blonde haired woman?
Kush and Nubia are two different Polities with the former being much further up south..
Nubia is also a part of Upper Km.t they were all rmtch..
Prejudice (pre judgement) is imperative for survival and is universal...
What's interesting is that people who look like us (same race) have done more harm to us throughout history than people who look different to us (different race).. yet it is always the other that we pre judge (Prejudice) 🤔
Correct me if I am wrong aren’t berbers blacks? Why did it seem as though he was referring to Berbers as a different race of Africans
What do you mean when you say "black" that's too ambiguous of a word that was created by people who are not even from the continent of Africa. Nobody was calling themselves black until the Arabs and Europeans came.
Berber comes from the Latin word
[ Barba ] meaning breard , this is where the word [ Barber shop ] derived from .Amazigh will tell you quickly that they have nothing to with berber , berbers are hybrids ,yhe mixture of Moorish and Barbarans blood.
No the greek are the one that started that name and it comes form the greek word barbarous which means a foreigner (greeks have even called the romans barbarous) but the romans used after too, berber is an exonym(name given by foriegners greek, romans and arabs) while amazigh is an endonyms(name given by the group to themselves)
@@Nillamir1787 The Greeks and Romans adopted the practice of shaving their facial hair,
@Nillamir1787 The Egyptian ( Kemetics ) didn't have facial hair.
Berber ( those who wore beards) were barbarians ( uncivilized). When I looked up the word Barba , I noticed the word berber and berber is associated with Barbarians,through cross reference 🤔
@Nillamir1787 Through cross referencing, I came up with the word Barbarians 🤔 Now the Moors couldn't have been Barbarians ( uncivilized )
Because the Moors were the ones who civilized Europeans, the Moors wasn't called Barbarian , Savage Europeans were called Barbarians.
@Nillamir1787 Barbarian
Barbary
Berber
Barba is if the same nature, the letters can be used unchangeable
Barbar and Berber are of the same nature. I keep saying that the Amazigh
( Imazighens) is not affiliated with berber ( Barbarians, European stock ) Amazigh Doesn't accept berber as being their own blood 🤔 If you look at those berbers in Northern Africa you will notice that those berber are of European stock . Berber is no more than hybrids, as a result of amalgamation between Moors, Arabs , and Barbarians. As a matter of fact, millions of Europeans were brought into Northern Africa slaves of the Moors .
Barbarians sold their own women to the Moors as slaves , or as collateral , or for ransom, .
England and France had a one hundred year war
I’m trying to get to the top of things but to me it sounds like a class struggle and a tribal preference also all over the world the northern part of a country consider them self superior to the southern part of a country. Wow, look out yes
Of course there was "Black" racism towards "Mediteranneans" And "Whites" among other Non "Black" groups as well it is just less documented of "Black" people could be harsh to other "Blacks" of a different ethnicity or nationality etc then no doubt Non "Blacks" would of also faced schisms as well from time to time whether it was reactionary or not is debatable yeah.
I dont anymore. Maybe Garvey was right
He told us in no plain terms. If we cannot do what other men have done we wont make it.
It seems as far as we go back in history we have been hated.
How is it possible that they hated us but moulay had 100k in his army?
When you refer to "we," what group are you talking about ? Color , nationality, or race ?
@@MalevolentBite race
@@georgeorwell3532Moulay was Morrocan not a slave
@@starchproof he was half black
the arab isn't superior over the non arab, the white isn't superior over black, what makes one superior is piety.
-muhammad ﷺ
(i paraphrased the hadeeth)
They had black slaves.
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that's not the point I was making I was quoting something. muhammad said.
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and who didn't have black sleeves, even within my tribe we also kept slaves that were also black, usually of other tribes though.
@@sulaimaanahmad yes muslims always owned non muslim slaves and treated the black ones the worst.
@sulaimaanahmad So if everyone does it , makes it right. Wow ok. Thanks that's all I needed.
Bro Berber are black Africans 😂
Many of them are and all original berbers were black
Berber >> barbaros > Barbarians > European…. They came as slaves Long long Looong time ago. Amazigh = Freemen. Free from who
@@mussiedebrezion8198 how do you know what ancient Berbers looked like ?
@YayaToure1247 cause some of them migrated to North Africa from East Africa, and the rest from central Africa they even have the similar culture to us habeshas, but all the cave paintings in north Africa are black telling about black people
@@mussiedebrezion8198 how are those cave paintings telling you of black people exactly .
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The vile asiatic was far more said than kush. There is no such thing as sub saharan afruca all of Africa is and was black. Berber is nam forst given to coastal blacks and sahelian blacks. You need edpsoe to people that terms like berber was associated with black before thes efrench turk arabs calling themselves amazigh.
Vile Kush was not a popular phrase at all!!! Egyptians were far more complimentary of their southern neighbours than any other. This is not the level of rigour i expected from you.
Great content please use map images when you talk about geographic locations and by the way Muslims don't believe in The curse of Ham whatsoever.
...maybe you should make your own RUclips videos.
not interested
The masmuda were black africans tho
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History is written by the victor... Its never totally true.
Maybe his reference to blacks had nothing to do with race or complexion but their attitude and deeds
Yeah okay! Some people are very good at deflecting or creating their own perception to not be associated, connected or tied to happenings from like people!
Prejudice still exists in western Africa. This is one of the reasons why we have been controlled by European for centuries. Prejudice in West Africa has led the region being one of corrupt place on earth.
Not just West Africa, all Africa worldwide, the churches and jesuits and semitics, they infiltrate to distabilize all of our economic situations worldwide. The khazar does not want us a superpower ever again
Oh wow im super early
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Yeah wel..racism isn't a new invention. Just read numbers 12..Moses and his Ethiopian wife.
Nope !! Mosses wife was from Median !! Arab
I don't think that it was racial prejudice, but ethnic prejudice.
The Last Sermon Of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ☪
"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly."
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@@gamalnassertv That only applies to individuals; nonetheless Islam is against racism
@@Goyfestival but islam was created by Arabs who practice racism.
Part of Islamic religion 🖤 Muhammad dreamed of black women 👳🏼 said it a symbol of epidemic and hadith Muhammad called black people ▪️raisin heads. Jesus has a black feminist verse when the queen 👑 of the south rise. People say the queen of the south is ethiopia.
I expect nothing less from culturally confused Afrikans
Your vidéos dont make sense, the berbers were black juste like west Africans
Not all ..come on bro
Many berbers are still black@@chacesimpson2856
Maghrebis/Berbers are distinct from West Africans and have their own genomic clusters and population structure. The "Black" ones are assimilated Haratines, Ikelans, Bellas, Gnawas...etc
@@gamalnassertv not true
@@kingamo1588 It's absolutely true, population genetics and other sciences analyzing the human genome have proven it.
North Africans have substantial ancestry from 'Eurasian backflow' events from the Levant and Europe in prehistory.
You speak of written words but most black history is verbal so who's version of history do you speak of ?
You just made that up.
This is the epitome of..."people just say anything online".
The local ajami texts (there are a lot of those), European and Arab texts on the region, and the verbal histories that line up with these texts
1) They found 400 000 manu scripts in Mali
2) There is thousands of books and manuscripts in ethiopia and Bamoun land
3) kanem , Hausa and Nubians had manuscripts and wrote on stone.
3) Ancient Egypt the civilisation that now allowed the greeks to write and read by transferring their script to the phoenician’s who got it to europe, defo wrote and was a black african civilisation. Don’t ever come on this channel again talking about oral history goof. Coming from a Bamoun of cameroon with direct nile valley blood.
@Taharquathegreat North African history is mostly on rockart. You're highlighting different periods with huge gaps. Much of African history is literally in art depicting events or daily life. I'd take the Garamantes rock art depictions over anything you're quoting from a Roman or Arab era on the supposed racial makeup of a people.
@@choicesii1 Funny how you can’t debunk me, how is anything you just said related to my response? Nubians, Malians empire, Kanem Bornou, Hausa, Ethiopians, Kemtiyu’s all wrote their history down on papyrus or stone and they we’re ALL BLACK AFRICAN civilizations. Admit your intellectual inferiority.
Its amazing I watched a video on India that explains the same same process they underwent. Proto antiblackness was a feature of Arab-Islamic expansion
ruclips.net/video/XUBDb9PIAhA/видео.htmlsi=Oh4N9xyuYz-K46VP